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Anonymous (ID: 2/Q137gc) No.515204297 [Report] >>515204433 >>515204512 >>515204515 >>515205031 >>515205525 >>515205775 >>515205810 >>515205847 >>515206068 >>515206381 >>515206616 >>515206721 >>515207256 >>515208612 >>515208910 >>515209991
New record high right now
Why does it keep happening?
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515204433 [Report] >>515204624
>>515204297 (OP)
>Increase money supply
>Gold supply stays the same
>????
>Profit!
You retarded or something?
Anonymous (ID: a62GMABm) United States No.515204512 [Report] >>515207304
>>515204297 (OP)
Read Ray Dalio's book to understand.
I don't know a way to shorten the info to a length appropriate for this forum without leaving out what I would consider vital information.
Anonymous (ID: joiYZKVl) United States No.515204515 [Report] >>515204850 >>515205521
>>515204297 (OP)
Should have bought more.
Should still buy more.
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515204537 [Report] >>515204600
A lot of people are losing faith in the currencies due to the evident economic policy of almost every country to continue debasing their currency forever
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515204600 [Report] >>515205680
>>515204537
It's not a matter of faith. It's a matter of supply and demand. It doesn't matter how much you believe in a currency, if the supply increases without a corresponding increase in productivity; the currency will devalue.
Anonymous (ID: 2/Q137gc) No.515204624 [Report] >>515208059
>>515204433
This isn't even physical price, this is "paper contract" price with a future delivery date.
Anonymous (ID: /kT+nG2S) Canada No.515204850 [Report]
>>515204515
was thinking the same. wish id listened to alex jones and bought 10 ounces back in 2002
Anonymous (ID: ieMWeIQ0) United States No.515204939 [Report] >>515207133
This hockeystick rise in price was supposed to happen back in 1971, and again every decade after that.

It's a God damned Jewish Miracle that they've been able to stave off the Jewish Hyperinflation of the US Dollar this long.

Paper isn't money okay gang? It's a contract with your enemy's face on it, and they just print it so they can be infinitely wealthy, that's literally all it is. US Dollar isn't money, the fact that the grocery stores are federally required to take it, is merely asking for a post secondary education in Jewish money and American Luciferian finance.

House prices aren't rising, Gold prices aren't rising, it's the measuring rod and dial-o-gram balance you're using to weight and measure, shrinking at a geometric rate.
Anonymous (ID: l8zuqhD6) United States No.515205031 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
Trump tariff policies failing and his strong arming of Powell to start printing money and lowering rates again. Basically wants to have another 2020 where money is cheap and we get to pretend like the economy is good for midterms
Anonymous (ID: GChQqZHT) Italy No.515205521 [Report] >>515205702 >>515205959
>>515204515
Problem is, at least here in this shithole country, 26% of the "growth" which is really fictious cause nothing's growing, it's just the money that is worth shit, is stolen by the government
So there's no real way to protect your wealth
But if this makes it all crash and burn and hanging of every single EU politician happens as a consequence, I'm all in favor
Anonymous (ID: joiYZKVl) United States No.515205525 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
The less people buy the better. More MILF and questionable aged daughters for me
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515205680 [Report] >>515205743 >>515206032 >>515206149
>>515204600
It is a matter of faith, and also supply and demand. All money is faith. A bank note is faith, and even a gold coin is faith. The internet has done a lot to disrupt the credibility of the government currencies, but basically everyone is coming to understand that holding your wealth in (fiat currency) is long term impoverishment. What this means is that no one wants to hold dollars, which means that everyone will be perennially cash-strapped, which means that the government will have to constantly supply more and more cash to keep things running smoothly. And the more they do that, the less people will value cash, and the more they will try to get rid of it. Eventually it will come to the point where people have no faith in currency's buying power at all and would rather get paid in e.g. meat or company shares or something or housing maybe. Especially if minimum wage laws are revoked I could envision (dollar)s being so debased that workers voluntarily accept compensation in food and board rather than money.
Anonymous (ID: /kT+nG2S) Canada No.515205702 [Report]
>>515205521
>So there's no real way to protect your wealth
to be fair there are several ways to either preserve what you have. if id put all my money into gold only 5 years ago id have 2x the amount in my bank account that i do right now. fuck.
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515205743 [Report]
>>515205680
Also worth wondering to what extent this is already the case in relatively unregulated workforces like illegal immigrants
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515205775 [Report] >>515205995
>>515204297 (OP)
Shiny rocks are shiny. Gold has also spent the last 15 years getting dunked on by BTC sooo
Anonymous (ID: V/R8UU+I) Ukraine No.515205810 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
End of the debt supercycle.
Anonymous (ID: Us/dl1ST) United States No.515205847 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
Cant even find gold to buy that hasn't been snatched up by jews
Anonymous (ID: joiYZKVl) United States No.515205959 [Report]
>>515205521
Gold and silver is a way to protect your wealth. One silver dime was a days wage for a centurion. You can buy one for 3€.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515205995 [Report] >>515206236
>>515205775
Gold isn't going to crash to zero some day. Bitcoin will.
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515206032 [Report]
>>515205680
Eventually it will be digital energy units or a pow crypto similar to BTC.
Anonymous (ID: pTesRM3Z) Brazil No.515206068 [Report] >>515206131
>>515204297 (OP)
Something big is coming
Anonymous (ID: joiYZKVl) United States No.515206131 [Report]
>>515206068
Weeks more 2
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515206149 [Report] >>515206573
>>515205680
Anon, what?
By faith do you mean demand? It sounds like you're describing demand. The demand relationship is Qd = f(P), and the supply relationship is Qs = g(P). Market equillibrium is reached when Qd = Qs.

I don't know what University of Life economics course you studied but faith literally doesn't come into it, unless by "faith" you actually mean "demand".
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515206236 [Report] >>515206373 >>515206448
>>515205995
The demand for computation is destined to continue rising; eventually exponentially if it isn't already. BTC is just a means to reflect value/demand for energy and computation. Since only a relatively few bag hold it there will be incentives to create various new similar pow crypto for various societies.
Anonymous (ID: joiYZKVl) United States No.515206373 [Report]
>>515206236
Hey man I’m sorry to tell you this but your mom sucked me off for 1/2 a dime. How’s your bitcoin working out with the power down?
Anonymous (ID: 9qIJcHJT) Germany No.515206381 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
I literally can answer every /pol/ thread which starts with
>Why
with
>jews
Every
Fucking
Time
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515206448 [Report] >>515206618 >>515208179
>>515206236
Waffle.

There is a tipping point where the vast majority of bitcoin isnt held by just a handful of people, as it is now, and then eventually something will cause a sell off, followed by a panic and bitcoin will fall to zero. Its price can be controlled now because so few have almost all the bitcoins and for some reason they are slowly selling them off for worthless dollars. Absolutely classic scam.

>give me your worthless dollar for my magic beans.
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515206573 [Report] >>515206715 >>515206931
>>515206149
I think faith means demand. However, currencies are a special case of why a demand exists. For example, we all know why there is a demand for bread, or housing. But why is there demand for dollars, or gold? There is faith that these pieces of paper and metal will be redeemable.

All around the world, fiat economics has spent the past century continuously debasing all of the worlds' currencies. We now can say with confidence that our holdings in dollars will dwindle in value forever. Therefore anyone with half a brain will want to get rid of their dollars as rapidly as possible. Put simply, the governments have destroyed the faith in currency. And this has very bad effects for economics. People should see money as a valuable reward, not something they should get rid of like a radioactive bomb. The philosophy was that to keep the economy moving, it is good that people spend rather than save. But this undermines the fundamental working of capitalism that people work to earn money as a reward. The whole reward system - work hard, get paid - that created modern society, has been trashed, because people no longer have faith that dollars are a worthwhile goal.
Anonymous (ID: +WRtJRQZ) United States No.515206616 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
the entire world is rapidly losing faith in US bonds, because of idiotic parasitic zionist leadership, the US government doesn't look stable into the future, and it seems wreckless to stash your money in the future of the zogmerican government vs gold.
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515206618 [Report] >>515207013
>>515206448
>Its price can be controlled now because so few have almost all the bitcoins
Why do you post lies on the internet?
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515206715 [Report]
>>515206573
Dollars are a means of exchange. They are not wealth. This isnt a revelation. Its thought to children in primary and secondary school.
Anonymous (ID: u0czn0aa) United States No.515206721 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
Has gold ever crashed? Is it possible to crash?
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515206931 [Report] >>515207510
>>515206573
I think we'd see the same devaluation in the currency even if the average person wasn't losing faith in the USD. Valuation of currencies isn't determined like assets, the value of a currency is tied to the value of bonds and other vehicles the government creates - it's not a remotely free market like we have with assets and is largely gatekept by monolithic institutions and banks.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515207013 [Report] >>515207222
>>515206618
>100
Yeah that's a really big number!

It doesn't need to be a conspiracy. If the biggest wallets see prices falling they all know its in their best interests to stop selling so the price can stabilise.

Property developers not building when house prices fall isnt a conspiracy either. Its in all their best interests.

As these huge wallets successfully sell off their bitcoin to more and more people, that ability for them to cooperate diminishes. More and more people in desperate situations who wont refuse to sell in a dip and instead panic sell can start to determine the price.

Bitcoin is unlikely to go to zero soon but it is slowly moving towards a scenario where it can.
Anonymous (ID: GqTBXVOO) United States No.515207133 [Report] >>515207231 >>515207697
>>515204939
>House prices aren't rising, Gold prices aren't rising, it's the measuring rod and dial-o-gram balance you're using to weight and measure, shrinking at a geometric rate.

Correct. We are not seeing gold and houses gain value, we are watching our money lose value.
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515207222 [Report] >>515207425
>>515207013
You didn't even look at it, did you? Indicative of the sort of person you are!
The table I linked shows the distribution of bitcoin across all wallets; not the top 100. But I'm sure you'll find another reason to disregard it.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515207231 [Report] >>515207399 >>515208052
>>515207133
Saw a video claiming houses and gold were/are relatively good value right now compared to other investments which is why money is flowing into them and yes inflation is making money particularly bad to hold right now.
Anonymous (ID: bU1+hmM3) United States No.515207256 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
>every single thing is completely fake and gay
>except solid elements you can hold in your hand
No idea
Anonymous (ID: 5Nlfwr8y) United States No.515207304 [Report]
>>515204512
Which book. That faggots has several.
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515207399 [Report] >>515207465
>>515207231
Houses/property are going to get increasingly taxed until a full on collapse. Gold/BTC chart is still probably low you can Google pricedingold site to double check.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515207425 [Report] >>515207923
>>515207222
Anon, a small number of people have the vast supply of bitcoin. They can cooperate to stabilise prices in a fall.
The vast majority of bitcoin holders have less than a single bitcoin and its harder for them to influence the price with their behavior. However, all the very large wallets have the same goal. Get out of bitcoin before the crash. As they slowly sell off their bitcoin, the majority will be able to influence the price. By selling in a panic.

If you think bitcoin is guaranteed to go up forever, you are a fool.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515207465 [Report] >>515207870
>>515207399
Bitcoin is taxed. So is gold.
Anonymous (ID: YpoyWpgX) Poland No.515207468 [Report]
If Trump died right now would USD value go up or continue to tank?
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515207510 [Report] >>515207583 >>515208015
>>515206931
What I think is summed up by that famous article from years ago - "average American couldn't survive a surprise 500$ check." What this represents is a society that no longer sees saving up money as important. For much of the upper classes, they simply transfer their wealth away from money into housing, coins, stocks, etc. But the vast majority of people are not financially literate or even in a position to have enough currency to invest in something like that even if they were financially literate. What this represents is something akin to what happens in hyperinflation, where common people simply stop valuing money. Common people don't care about saving up money; the government will bail them out anyway; and if what little money you have today is going to be worth less a year from now, why not spend it all on something today when it has maximum buying power? What this means is that, like Weimar Germany during hyperinflation, the economy is "dedollarizing." This will result in even more inflation, like in COVID, because with the average person having no savings, the government will be forced to bail them out with more and more welfare and emergency relief checks to stop them from starving/keep consumer spending up. And remember all this is coming from a very, very debunked philosophy, around 100 years old, that consumer spending drives the economy and therefore consumer saving is something that needs to be avoided. I don't know what this philosophy is called,, since as you can probably tell I'm not an economics student.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515207583 [Report]
>>515207510
The average American would pay the surprise 500 dollar bill with a credit card.
Anonymous (ID: ieMWeIQ0) United States No.515207697 [Report] >>515207948
>>515207133
The better way to say it is that buying power is being drained away from the US Dollar, and since buying power can't be drained away from certain assets such as but not limited to physical gold and ownership over land and houses, production lines and living spaces, then in dollar denominated figures, they will asymptote to infinity before Judah from Palestine is forced to revoke "legal tender" off your paper money, and assign that tender to something else, maybe bitcoin, maybe clamshells, maybe steal all the land from the fucking boomers, who knows what they'll do, but this is the impulse for why Communism is a dirty word and why at the end of capitalism, half of the people murder the other half, since half of us have to die, and by Hashem, It will not be me, so it'll have to be you.
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515207870 [Report] >>515207962
>>515207465
>BTC is taxed
why are you being so butthurt over chuck e cheese tokens
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515207923 [Report] >>515208015 >>515208015 >>515208073 >>515208393
>>515207425
I don't disagree with you, I just think the driving force is the underlying value of the currency. ie: currency isn't devaluing because your average american doesn't want to save up; the average american doesn't want to save up because the currency is devaluing.
Whether or not the average american has big savings doesn't impact the federal reserves' decisions to print excess money and distribute it to oligarchs and big business interests; they do that because it benefits them and they will continue to do that until there's no value left to extract from the currency system.
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515207948 [Report]
>>515207697
Buying power can be drained from gold. Picture an island where everyone there sold everything they had to foreigners in exchange for gold. What you're left with is an island with a lot of gold and not much else. Same deal with land, although less so. I think that due to the obscene concentration of military power via drones, satellites etc, what we can look forward to is something like the USSR or Chinese collectivization efforts but on steroids. And that would probably be the best case scenario, since it assumes a relatively unified ruling caste. The alternative would be a race war.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515207962 [Report] >>515208179
>>515207870
I enjoy reading the insane shit pro bitcoiners say. Iv already made it in property. I beat bitcoin over the same time period of my investment.
Anonymous (ID: AWmfMJ+1) United Kingdom No.515208015 [Report]
>>515207923
meant to reply to >>515207510

>>515207923
Wasn't gonna reply to this but in light of my misquote I'll give you a "I didn't say bitcoin was gonna go up forever".
Anonymous (ID: /kT+nG2S) Canada No.515208052 [Report]
>>515207231
from what i can tell, outside of especially high demand areas, gold and houses are keep about parallel in terms of value. gold has 2x in 5 years and most houses have done about the same.

but using houses as an investment to flip for money is evil, so there is that.
Anonymous (ID: BcWdliaS) United States No.515208059 [Report]
>>515204624
most people don’t understand this.
physical gold is still a bad investment, because you’ll never find it for the trading price, then when it’s time to sell, you’ll never find anyone who pays at or above the trading price.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515208073 [Report]
>>515207923
We were massively betrayed during covid. Financially. Thats the part that isnt talked about. The government's behaved incredibly irresponsibly because they couldn't admit they were powerless and that elderly people will die.
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515208179 [Report] >>515208406 >>515208611
>>515207962
>literally admits to being butthurt
As I said before, BTC will be replaced by better pow crypto. I'm not a maxi but don't know enough about the space to have an honest discussion about it. >>515206448
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515208393 [Report]
>>515207923
A lot of the philosophy seems to be that consumer spending keeps the economy going and needs to be kept up, while consumer saving is evil and causes economic stagnation. What I am doing is presenting a case for the opposite. Of course big businesses that pull clout with the government want Americans to spend their entire wallets on their products, but that's just their shortsighted need for profit. In the long term when Americans have spent all they have, the economy collapses, and the government needs to bail Americans out to keep the consumer spending going. I think this was a very serious miscalculation from the ruling classes because I think the result has been the deindustrialization of society, and the loss of faith in money - demonetization, dedollarizarion, whatever - represents the end of capitalism and reversion to anarchy rule by violence. Which is why the values of the street seem to be less about getting rich and more about being a thug. Economic planners need to understand that faith in currency is what allows capitalism to work, and is why the West was able to industrialize so effectively. I don't know what the paradigm of the past century is called - Keynesianism, Monetarism, fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, I don't know what the term is - but there seems to me to be a very obvious link between it and the decline in living conditions on the street, which will cause the collapse of the pyramid the bankers rest on top of.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515208406 [Report] >>515208509
>>515208179
>literally admits to being gay
Anonymous (ID: YpoyWpgX) Poland No.515208483 [Report]
By the way, not everyone investing in gold is buying it physically, right? Is there any evidence the amount of gold being traded is corresponding to tangible gold?
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515208509 [Report] >>515208970
>>515208406
Property taxes are going to go up.
Anonymous (ID: uyYINtci) United States No.515208559 [Report]
Fed is being dismantled by Trump as we speak. Gold standard coming soon with US gold reserves revalued to $50k per oz. by November.

$3k is a steal rn
Anonymous (ID: joiYZKVl) United States No.515208611 [Report]
>>515208179
Have fun going to your cage tonight Eglin baby
Anonymous (ID: Ozsastj9) Canada No.515208612 [Report] >>515208894
>>515204297 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: u0czn0aa) United States No.515208775 [Report] >>515208958 >>515208963
why does it feel like everything is getting worse but nothing is being done to course correct?
Anonymous (ID: YpoyWpgX) Poland No.515208894 [Report]
>>515208612
People instinctively know everything is fucked beyond repair, they want things to accelerate.
Anonymous (ID: E2GE2r0K) No.515208910 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
Governments keep acting degenerate and bodn crisis is 100% going to happen in 75% of the western world, safe enclaves from debt crisis (germany, russia, israel, turkey) are doing retarded policies in one way or another when it comes to economics and either overtaxing their pop to demographic oblivion or being too overextended, so basically they are also on borrowed time but not on the debt market, just demographically.
Anonymous (ID: Ozsastj9) Canada No.515208958 [Report]
>>515208775
You can't taper a Ponzi scheme.
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515208963 [Report]
>>515208775
Because the people most knowledgeable and inclined to do something about it have given up and are resigned to enjoying the show if not outright making it worse for profit.
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515208970 [Report] >>515209310
>>515208509
At least I'll have something to tax. Over the last 5 years I turned 170k into 1.5 million (500k in debt) i did similar or better than bitcoin over that time and I have a nice home to live in. You cant live in a bitcoin while it goes up in price. I also took on very low risk.
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515209266 [Report] >>515209452
Money should be the tool the rich used to control the poor... What the bankers have done in the past century is debased their own whip hand. That is why there is a decline in bourgeouis values and a return to monke.. a rise in lawlessness always corresponds with hyperinflation, because money is the great social controlling force.
Anonymous (ID: eppKRQ9I) No.515209310 [Report] >>515209660
>>515208970
>I
>I
>I
You ego maxis are easy to spot and all the same. Thread is about gold and inflation not you or I. Every conversation always has to devolve back it i's and my's for (you) midwits otherwise you're completely at a loss
Anonymous (ID: j4zciXZM) United States No.515209452 [Report]
>>515209266
And it's worth wondering... Would bankers even be counted among the upper class in a society with full reserve banking and zero money creation? Or would they simply be middle class warehousers of money owned by actual rich people - industrialists, merchants, and aristocrats? In that sense what has been done can be seen as bankers crashing the system out of a desire for mastery of it. Certainly in China the ruling class draws more from the military and technocrat than in the West where it seems to be entirely financial.
Anonymous (ID: WOnkluj0) United States No.515209507 [Report]
Gold has done better than the S&P 500 since 1/1/2000
Anonymous (ID: +MiqWu6d) Ireland No.515209660 [Report]
>>515209310
You started throwing insults. Bitcoin isnt special. Its not the only way to fast money but it is one of the riskiest.
Anonymous (ID: 28EeVeuP) United States No.515209991 [Report]
>>515204297 (OP)
>trump crashing the US economy with no survivors
>France is singlehandedly about to cause a new Eurozone crisis

What else do you expect people hedge with? Buttcoin?
Anonymous (ID: D3AuWadU) Finland No.515211134 [Report]
Print money to buy foreign assets near areas you have large military presence. Give them paper, they give you resources. Once the monkey realizes you cannot eat ze paper, you point at your warships.