Thread 515284795

Should someone's proficiency in logic and reasoning determine whether they get to vote or not?

50%
/thread

>>515284795 (OP)
>>515284890

66.66%

>>515284795 (OP)
1/3d

I am also the smartest person on earth

>>515285047
33% for silver. I was answering for gold

>>515284890
This, any other answer is provided by someone who is dumb and wrong or trolling

0%

The most delicious part of these threads is that with the state of the modern internet, it's impossible to tell who's baiting and who's just a moron.

>>515284795 (OP)
I may be retarded but 3-1=2 and there are 6 total balls. This leaves me with 3/5 being silver. So I have a 20 percent chance of fondling a gold ball? Or am I retarded?

Pls no bulli

>>515284795 (OP)
Yes, only people bellow a certain level of intelligence should be allowed to vote. If you're smart you should be able to make your own fortune and not be reliant or manipulate elected officials. Us retards have to vote for people who will help us profit. I hate Smarty McRichpants so fucking much.

>>515284795 (OP)
Since democracy is fake, this discussion is kind of redundant.

>>515285126
Damn, you guys are fucking retards.

>>515285760
40 percent*

if you replace the balls with burgers americans would solve this instantly

>>515285760
This bait has been edited from its normal form (you pick a gold, what are the odds the other ball in the same box is also gold? Two thirds) such that it is inverted, asking what are the odds that if you picked a gold, what are the odds the other ball in the same box is silver. One third.
OP is baiting for people who knows this image macro and are leaping to post the (normally correct) answer.
Anyone who says 50% is just ignorant of statistics, however.

>>515285940
So do it, rewrite it with cheese burgers and plan burgers.

>>515285782
>bellow
It’s below. Your shift begins at 7am exactly tomorrow. Don’t be late again.

>>515285975
So Is my 40 percent wrong? I’m unfamiliar with the image file.

You should be able to code this

>>515285760
The groupings matter. You can't just flatten away the boxes. Any correct calculation must operate on the boxes first, and then the balls within.

>>515286053
>>515285975
>>515285924
>>515285760
Wait wait I’m only now seeing it was asking about silver. So I was right just saying the probability for finding gold.

Okay yeah I’m retarded, but more so because I apparently can’t read.

>>515285950
Fuck. You.

>>515286070
"Hey ChatGPT, write me a fizzbuzz implementation in brainfuck"

>>515285950
That has nothing to do with IQ

>>515285950
2 bro

>>515286053
This is usually called "Bertrand's box paradox".
>three boxes, one has two gold balls, one has gold and silver, one has two silver
>you pick a box at random
>you pick a ball at random
>it's gold
>what's the probability that the other ball in the box you just picked from is also gold?
There are three gold balls you could've picked. Two of them are from the same box, meaning that the probability you picked a ball from the double-gold box is (2/3), it's weighted twice as much.
1 of the 3 gold balls you could've picked has a silver ball for the other ball, 2 of the 3 gold balls you could've picked has another gold ball in the same box. (2/3) chance.

>>515286268
This seems foolish. Why weight the values. The balls are the balls. They don’t care what you grabbed. There are 3 silver and 2 gold remaining.

This 2/3s nonsense is the same sort of math nerd autism ruining sports.

Universal suffrage with Hare–Clark electoral system is perfect.

>>515286268
Congratulations, you're a brainlet.

>>515284795 (OP)
If the first ball you have pulled out is gold, you already know you have 1 of the 2 boxes not the third box.
If you already have one gold ball removed from the box, you either now have the box with the other gold ball remaining or the box with only one silver ball.
So, after moving through those extraneous events and their probabilities, it now has collapsed down to just the odds of pulling out the 1 gold or the 1 silver.
So regardless of your overall odds at the start, by this stage it's finally just 50:50.

If you do manage to put your hand in the third box with 2 silvers and still pull out a gold ball, your odds the other ball is also going to be gold is 100% - because it's magic and you've got the Midas-touch so every ball will be gold.

>>515286582
>>515284890
Two (other) non-retards ITT.
Although I suspect some of you are just trying to trigger my autism.

>>515286436
Look at the image again. Let's number each box 1, 2, 3 from left to right, and each ball 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 from left to right.
It's already stated that you grabbed a ball from a box, and that you grabbed a gold ball. That means that you had to have reached into box 1 or 2. You couldn't have reached into box 3, since you grabbed a gold ball.
So that means you had to have grabbed one of the three gold balls, 1, 2, or 3.
>ball 1
You grab the other ball in the box. It's ball 2. Gold.
>ball 2
You grab the other ball in the box. It's ball 1. Gold.
>ball 3
You grab the other ball in the box. It's ball 4. Silver.
Two of the three cases lead to grabbing another gold ball.
The crux here is that it's a gotcha for people thinking "I grabbed a gold ball, there's two boxes that contain gold balls, one has another gold and one has another silver, therefore it's 50/50 whether the other ball is gold or silver."

>>515286573
>Congratulations, you're a brainlet.
>>515285975
>This bait has been edited from its normal form (you pick a gold, what are the odds the other ball in the same box is also gold? Two thirds) such that it is inverted, asking what are the odds that if you picked a gold, what are the odds the other ball in the same box is silver. One third.
Faggot.

>>515286647
Can you please just stop being retarded?
It's extremely triggering for me.

Well I now understand the 1/3, 1/3, 0/3 breakdown Wikipedia just showed me. You nerds might be on to something.

it's 50/50.

you have a gold ball.


that ball came from one of two boxes.

one of those two boxes has a gold ball and one has a silver ball. You have picked one of those two.

You have a 50% chance to have picked either one. The next ball from the same box is 50%.

If you don't believe it, just try it a few hundred times and keep a running total. Do it faggot. I need data.

>>515284795 (OP)
>1pbtid
I've got your balls right here, Monty.

>>515286044
It's not fair.

>>515284795 (OP)
50%
>>515286647
How about another one? There are three boxes.
Box 1: 100 gold balls
Box 2: 1 gold and 1 silver ball
Box 3: 100 silver balls
You pick a box at random. You pick a ball at random. What the odds that the next ball you pick from the same box will be the same?

>>515287348
>You pick a box at random. You pick a ball at random. What the odds that the next ball you pick from the same box will be the same?
(200/202), or ~99%

>>515284795 (OP)
Answer is 2/3

>>515287511
So when picking 1 out of 3 boxes at random, one of them only gets picked 1% of the time? Is this the indian excellence they are importing to USA?

>>515285855
Stop trying to trigger people anon. You know it's 1/3.

>>515287635
He's a Jew trying to miseducate the youths in math to make them more susceptible to his usury.

>>515287635
> one of them only gets picked 1% of the time?
ASSUMING YOU PICKED A GOLD BALL FIRST, then yes, box 2 in your example gets picked 1 time out of 101.

>>515285126
You were right the first time

>>515287611
Also I got this backwards.
To answer the OP's question, there's a 2/3 chance the next ball is gold and 1/3 it is silver.

>>515284795 (OP)
>1pbtid
>troll 'logic puzzle' with an obvious answer (50%)
>an almost immediate reply by a co-conspirator to push the wrong answer.
>Destined for bump limit with only minimal extra effort
These might be the gayest of the slide threads they put up, because of how infuriatingly stupid they are.

>Your hand entered one of two possible boxes
>There are only two possible outcomes of drawing another ball from the same box. Silver or Gold. That was determined by the act of drawing a gold, eliminating the double silver as even an option.

>>515287635
You said random box, random ball. There's 202 balls. 100 gold in box 1, 1 gold and 1 silver in box 2, and 100 silver in box 3.
If you picked any of the 100 gold balls in box 1, picking another ball from the same box will be the same.
If you picked any of the 100 silver balls in box 3, picking another ball from the same box will be the same.
If you picked either the gold or the silver ball in box 2, those are the only possibilities that lead to not picking the same ball.

What you likely intended to ask was "you grab a ball, with a 1/3 chance of reaching into box 1, a 1/3 chance of reaching into box 2, and a 1/3 chance of reaching into box 3", which is a different question.

>>515285126
Oh wait nevermind, I get it. The two-silver ball box is ruled out. So yeah 33%

>>515287940
Between the box with two gold balls, and the box with a gold and a silver ball, there is not an equal probability that you have drawn from either box. That you have drawn a gold ball means it is more likely that you have drawn from the box with more gold balls, than the one with fewer.

>>515286647
>it's a gotcha for people thinking
No, that's just how reality works, and no amount of jewish 'statistics' will change the fact that if you drew a gold ball, the double silver ISN'T the box you drew from.
Nor does it change the fact that by drawing the second ball from the same box, you can ONLY draw the second gold ball if it was gold/gold. Or pull silver, if you'd taken the gold from gold/silver.
Two distinct physical outcomes, there are no other realities that can exist unless you change the number of balls, which wasn't the 'logic puzzle'.

>>515287823
>>515287951
>You pick a box at random
Is the first statement in the question. Unironically LLMs have better deduction than you niggers.

>>515287743
Very likely.

>>515288193
>What is the probability that the next ball you take from the same box will be silver?
not
"What is the probability that you drew from any given box?"

>>515288230
Go read about Bertrand's box paradox, dipshit. You're wrong and don't know what you're talking about. I humored you, but you are no longer worth my time.

>>515285760
the questions can be simply condensed to what prob is u picking a gold silver box. thats the only time you need to use probability.

>>515287951

God damn this board is retarded sometimes.

The original question is 1/3.

You can ignore box 3, so each of the balls from the other 2 boxes is 25% chance, with gold representing 75% of the options, and the only one with a silver as the other ball being 25 of that 75 or 1/3

For your 100 balls in the first box, 2 in the second and 100 in the 3rd, it doesn't change anything - it's still 1/3 - box 1 has 100% gold and box 2 has 50% gold, meaning if you picked a gold ball it's twice as likely that it came from box 1, and yet only that 50% chance from box 2 results in the desired outcome.

so there is still a 75% gold rate between the two boxes, with the desired outcome being 25% of that 75% or 1/3 - a million balls could be in there, it's down to %s in the decision tree.

Do any of you even do basic math at all?

>>515284795 (OP)
50%

>>515288230
Yes, but you pulled out a gold ball from your randomly picked box which means that you didn't pick the box with two silver balls. The SS-box was not your random selection. So the chance that you picked the GG-box is 2/3 and the GS-box, 1/3. Thus, the next ball you pick has a 2/3 chance of being gold and 1/3 silver.

>>515288777
Checked.

>>515288230
>Very likely.
Gradually I began to hate them.

>>515288358
Flaunting around your knowledge about the names of concepts, without the actual knowledge is not an argument. You are absolutely destroyed with the simplest of logic. I accept your defeat.

If anyone is interested in similar reading of retards getting owned, the story behind Monty Hall problem is very interesting: https://web.archive.org/web/20130121183432/http://marilynvossavant.com/game-show-problem/

>>515288787
It could have been worded more clearly:
"Say you pick a box at random. On the occasion that you pull a gold ball first, what chance do you have a pulling a second gold ball."

This is what the question is asking.

>>515288787
Yes. In the OPs version you indeed picked _one out of the two boxes_ (one out of three before the new information). You should be able to solve it yourself now.

>>515288324
These are in fact, the same question, just phrased differently. The next ball you pull out of the same box is entirely determined by which box you picked initially. It is necessary to determine the probability in the past of drawing from the gold/silver box based on the knowledge that you drew a gold ball in the present.

Consider, that prior to our knowledge of what ball was drawn, we had six options for what might happen if we pick a box at random and take out a ball:
1. Draw gold ball 1 from box 1
2. Draw gold ball 2 from box 1
3. Draw gold ball 1 from box 2
4. Draw silver ball 2 from box 2
5. Draw silver ball 1 from box 3
6. Draw silver ball 2 from box 3

With the knowledge that the ball drawn was gold, we can eliminate options 4, 5, and 6 as possibilities. Of the remaining options, only option 3 makes it possible that drawing the remaining ball in the chosen box will be silver. Since this is 1/3 of all options, the probability is 1/3.

>>515286070
extremely poorly written question.
>n is the input but isn't used at all
>what does answer (1-indexed) mean?
seems like n should be the size of the array and it should be written
>return a string array answer (n)
then this is easily solvable with a for loop and the modulus operator

>>515288749
Brilliantly stupid. It's not fourths, you already picked one, it would be thirds by that logic.

Anyway, I went thru this with the Monty Hall problem. I had to physically model out with playing cards. It became obvious that when you start from the beginning and eliminate all cases that don't match the starting criteria (in this case an initial silver draw) and run the game a hundred times it does defy one jerk logic. You are picking box GG twice as often as GS because half your GS picks are silver and disqualified.

2/3.

I mean 2/3 gold
The jew that spams these charges the wording. It's silver today.

>>515289787
It's indeed 2/3 in the traditional and original version of this problem, but in this 1pbtid bait thread, OP edited his image to be asking for the inverse, silver. Six gorillion hours in paint.

>>515289914
My favorite ones are the ones with the ambiguous math expressions involving division reduced to a single line of text, to catch retards who don't know about implicit multiplication, screaming "PEMDAS!!!" It's so elegantly simple, yet makes everyone frothing mad. 10/10 bait

>>515286268

Lol, no.

Imagine you have two boxes

Box 1: 1 gold and 1 silver
Box 2: 10000000 gold

According to your logic, if I take a gold, then the probability that the next one will be gold to would be absurdly high, like 100000000/1000000001, when it's clear its 50/50.

>>515286251
Wouldn't it be 6? the run off/drips for 7 and 1 would be slower than filling up the bottom then 6 getting the majority. Anyway, we don't know the flow rate.

>>515284795 (OP)
Not this fucking thread again.
>Any answer other than 1/3 means you're non white

it's either gold or it's silver

50%

>>515290494
Read the question again fuckwit

>>515286647

This was also for

>>515290307

>>515289787


I literally write logic for this sort of shit for a living, and wrote one of the counter-encryption algorithms my country uses for a particular process, absolutely smashing what was thought to be the compute complexity of the problem.

Using fourths there makes perfect sense - but let's go back and use sixths to make it fucking clearer for you.

There are 3 boxes of equal chance - 1/3 each. In each box is 2 balls of 1/2 chance, meaning each ball is 1/6

3 of those 1/6 chances are gold, so represent 100% of the cases we care about, which are equal, so each ball represents 1/3 of the selection options, and only 1 ball is correct, so 1/3 total.

If you eliminate the S+S box, that 1/3 * 1/2 = 1/6 becomes 1/2 * 1/2 or 1/4 chance for each remaining ball, of which 3/4 are gold. Fourths makes perfect sense.

If you replace the 2 gold balls in the first box with 100 gold balls, and the 2 silver balls with 100 silver balls, nothing changes in the end, but the calculations slightly change - both the first and last box are still 1/3, but in the first and last box the chance of any 1 ball is now 1/100 - with a 1/3 chance in each box 1/3 * 1/100 = 1/300, times 100 balls is 100/300 or 1/3.

So you have a 1/3 chance of a gold ball from box 1, and a 1/6 chance of a gold ball from box 2: 1/3 + 1/6 = 3/6. If we have a 3/6 chance of picking a gold ball still, and only 1/6 chance of it being the correct gold ball for the other ball to be silver, that's still 1/3, the answer doesn't change.

If you can't see that in your head, just draw the decision tree on paper so your NPC ass can understand without a inner voice like those of us with souls have.

>>515290595
They’re not sending their best, folks.

>>515290590
you put your hand in a box which can have a gold or silver ball, it could be either, so it's literally 50-50

>>515284795 (OP)
You can really simplify this question by asking what is the probability you chose the box with 2 different colors (1 out of 3) or a box with two of the same color (2 out of 3).
Everything else is superfluous.

>>515284795 (OP)
Each box has a 1/3 chance of being picked, so its 1/3. The fact that you opened the box changes absolutely nothing you retards, its still 1/3.

>>515290706
Yeah Mr Wall of text, read the next post

>>515290796
>You take a gold ball
>The ball you take is gold
>The ball in your hand that you have picked is one of three gold balls
>Not only have you definitely not taken from the box on the right, you haven't taken the silver ball from the middle
>You've literally taken ONE of THREE gold balls
>As we have ascertained the ball in your hand is one of three gold balls, let's work out which of the THREE you might have taken
>Left to right ball 1 - 33% probably to pick, the other ball is gold
>Ball 2 33% chance, the other ball is gold
>Ball 3, 33% chance, the other ball is silver
Let's add those up you dense mother fucking non neanderthal dna having sickle cell suspect
>66% chance it's gold
>33% chance it's silver

>>515285950
2, 3 or maybe 1, depending on how fast you pour. Very slow and it drips into 3, regular and it probably hits 2, fast and you might have a shot at 1. Not a logic picture tho, but about observation.

>>515284795 (OP)
If the first ball is "always" gold then you can't claim the box is random, it isn't random.

This is some scripted shit, people who know the game will give the game answer of 2/3.

>>515290307
Holy shit you are dumb.
You have an absurdly higher chance of pulling s gold ball out of your box 2 than you do from your box 1, so the fact you pulled a gold at all implies you most likely picked the box with many gold.

>>515291418
The first ball is mandated by God to be gold, or can't influence the second ball, which is 50/50.

>>515291637
One of THREE gold balls you abbo cunt.
>66% you took from the first box
>33% you took from the second box
No wonder your ancestors got caught fuck me

>>515284795 (OP)
75%

>>515291418
you dont know what the remaining ball is in the box you just took a ball out of

you just know there are gold and silver balls

therefore it's 50-50

This thread is nice and all, but consider the following:

>>515284890
I really hope everyone else is just baiting or these niggerbrains will literally destroy civilization

>>515284795 (OP)
46.7%

>>515291973
Whatever color you get has a higher probability of being from a double color box, of which there are 2, than the multi color box, of which there is 1.
It doesn't matter which color you actually get, since again the real question is which box did you get.

>>515284890
fpbp

>>515284890
Based 50/50 chad
This isn't the month hall problem, at least the way it's worded.
It assumes the first ball pulled is gold, which eliminates the all silver box as a possibility

>>515285950
The answer is 6.
The other pipes are either blocked off or to high.

>>515287348
This change has no effect on the problem. The box is 100% gold, adding more gold balls does not change the probabilities, 100% is 100% regardless of how many balls are in there. You are only drawing at most 2 balls from the box, so adding more changes nothing.

>>515292218
It doesn't matter what ball you pull, you always have a higher chance of picking one of the boxes with two of the same color.

>>515290349
>>515292222
The answer is 2. 6 is blocked at the very end. All of the pipes are blocked somewhere. There's a small gap above 3's pipe where the water will escape and pour into 2.

No. Probably nobody should be allowed to vote. If there are exceptions, it would be for landed property or for specialist issues in which one has expertise.

>>515284890
it either is or it isn't

>>515291973
Iwasonlypretendingtoberetarded.jpg

>>515284795 (OP)
It's 50%. You pick a box at random and pull a gold ball. That means you picked either box 1 or 2. If it's box 1, you have 0% chance of pulling a silver one. If it's box 2, you have a 100% chance of pulling a silver one. So the probability from the beginning applies.

>>515293040
Come on hans. You're better than this. You picked up ONE of THREE gold balls

>>515287152
Yea the thing with these types of tests is that the phrasing of the question is a test, too.

You'll actually get a lower score on these things if you're used to normal academic tests, and treating it like a pure math problem.

>>515293040
>That means you picked either box 1 or 2.
Yeah, but it means you had a 2/3rds chance of picking box 1. Thus, there is a 2/3rds chance that the next ball is gold.

>>515285950
isnt it obviously 5?

>>515284795 (OP)
you have two boxes, one box is labeled heads the other tails.
the heads box contains gold, and the tails box contains silver.
coin flip.
the coin lands heads.
you choose the box labeled heads and take the gold.

what were the odds of the coin landing heads?

>>515284795 (OP)
Do the boxes have wooden doors? Asking for a friend

>>515284795 (OP)
I made a script to test this and the answer is 1/3.

If you randomly pick a box, then randomly pick a gold ball from that box, you have a 1 in 3 chance of picking a silver ball on your next pick.

Which makes sense because there are two paths to pick a gold ball first and get gold second and only one path to pick a gold ball first and get silver

>>515285047
>66.66%
Correct

>>515294353
The second ball has a 66%chance of being silver?

>>515284795 (OP)
>3 boxes, each holds 2 balls:
>one has 2 gold, 2 silver ...

Test question writers are the ones that need lobotomizing.

>>515284795 (OP)
no but its the peak of blinded-by-modernity to expect people to care after youve taken their means of force while keeping it to yourself

>>515289594
>n is the input
Usually it tells you the range of n separately.
Because they run it several times with different values of n.

1-indexed means it starts counting at 1, not 0.

>this is easily solvable.
Yes, it is marked easy. Write your solution!

>>515295784
I just realized you're the only person ITT including myself who actually answered the question.

>>515287959
That would mean it can only be 1 of 2 boxes. Therefore, making it a 50/50 chance