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Does anyone actually have any good arguments against Zeihan's china collapse theory other than just spamming "Two more weeks"? Because as I see it, China is fucking done for
Anonymous (ID: 8d6W/oVO) United States No.515285885 >>515286754
>>515285759 (OP)
Flat Earth is only 8" away.
Anonymous (ID: 8d6W/oVO) United States No.515285920 >>515286754
>>515285759 (OP)
Globe Earth is only 8" away.
Anonymous (ID: W5ZZadj2) United States No.515285982 >>515286754
>>515285759 (OP)
he's not gonna fuck you, anon
Anonymous (ID: jGz+rHLU) United States No.515286008 >>515286754
>>515285759 (OP)
I've been hearing niggers like him say this shit for 2 decades now.
You don't actually want a discussion. You're just some boomer neocon faggot.
Feel free to watch yet another video.
Anonymous (ID: aHIKYmuD) No.515286237 >>515286391 >>515286754 >>515291753
No, they have no argument to the USA sabotaging international shipping to collapse China’s export oriented economy. They always end up saying that it’ll trigger a nuclear war and I respond with good. Nuclear war is beneficial to the USA. It would make the US population 90% White after the cities are obliterated. The population of the USA is more spread out unlike the population of China which is mostly along their coast. Ethnic Russians would be functionally extinct after Moscow and Saint Petersburg are nuked. Pakistan and India would nuke each other. In the event of a nuclear war the USA would nuke countries like Brazil and Mexico that aren’t even actively involved in the conflict as a contingency measure to make sure they don’t rise up in the power vacuum after the war.
Anonymous (ID: 8SQAA765) No.515286252
>>515285759 (OP)
https://archive.is/K0bPG Um, this particular journal is considered right-leaning and also very reputable. Go take up your argument with them, OP.
Anonymous (ID: mKTc5K45) United States No.515286343
>>515285759 (OP)
>memeflag
How about that Ziohan has been shilling this narrative for a quarter of a century?
and that he gets most of his personal income revenue selling books to think tanks and ZeiTalks at swamp war colleges
Anonymous (ID: 6PKaEurW) Latvia No.515286391 >>515286669 >>515290918
>>515286237
>, they have no argument to the USA sabotaging international shipping to collapse China’s export oriented economy
The argument is that china and the united states are too dependent on each other. China actually needs america more than it needs russia.
Anonymous (ID: OLT5heUH) Japan No.515286501
>>515285759 (OP)
Just travel to China and see for yourself, for the Lord's sake.
Anonymous (ID: aHIKYmuD) No.515286669 >>515287220
>>515286391
The USA is decoupling from China though.
Anonymous (ID: 9FE3q7Rn) United States No.515286754 >>515287050
>>515285885
>>515285920
>>515285982
>>515286008
>>515286237
reposted memeflag spam about zeihan
Anonymous (ID: oaynR+FP) South Korea No.515286820 >>515291513
>>515285759 (OP)
It's not something you can just dismiss as a joke that China's economy has collapsed. The CPI and PPI released today both came in below expectations, and deflation persists. Things are so bad that the Chinese Communist Party is even trying to ban the word deflation
Anonymous (ID: KJjx+k7X) United States No.515286952
>1 post by this ID
Do not reply to shills.
>e-celeb bullshit
See?
>the e-celeb is that retard who has never been right one single time
Oi vey.
Anonymous (ID: W5ZZadj2) United States No.515287050
>>515286754
jfc
someone drop a bitcoin on hookers for this guy
yes a whole bitcoin
Anonymous (ID: NZCLGc4X) United States No.515287053
No, like with Russia they make the assumption that China is playing by the neoliberal rulebook like us instead of being able to shift into command economy mode at any time when necessary.
Anonymous (ID: 2ZoT9MJD) United States No.515287145
>>515285759 (OP)
China fell for the Henry Kissinger honeypot trap and stuffed all their shadow money in US index funds and investment firms
Now that all their buffer money for uh oh moments isn't readily accessible the same companies they hedge with removed market velocity in China's favor
Once the arctic trade lane opens China will get the choice: Become a vassal state to produce labor or double down on recolonizing Africa
If they focus on building in Africa all the other countries around them will be turned into vassal slave labor states further remitting them from occupational projection via military
Anonymous (ID: 6PKaEurW) Latvia No.515287220
>>515286669
In words or in practice?
Anonymous (ID: 6h3Ooe3i) United States No.515287901
>>515285759 (OP)
No. China is literally collapsing.
Anonymous (ID: +pGmjXbH) Greece No.515289054
>>515285759 (OP)

Crazy how collapsing China can complete several domestic and international mega projects every year while not collapsing US cannot afford to replace their rails.


All western systems are inferior to Maoism and not amount of compium and airbase posting can change that.
Anonymous (ID: z3Btktbh) Canada No.515289177
>>515285759 (OP)
https://youtu.be/gXVgRM64Rtk

tl;dw zeihan lies about china's demographics number, can offset by increasing productivity, automation, and ai

video was released when chinese EVs were still rising. A lot of the things in this video has come true
Anonymous (ID: xIpZaz1G) United Kingdom No.515289243
>>515285759 (OP)
He's been shilling the same bullshit for over a decade.
It's some boring.
All of you shills are.
Anonymous (ID: J0Nwx0q9) United States No.515289318
>>515285759 (OP)
do you know why people spam "two more weeks?"
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515289366
Reminded me of this guy from April on Tiktok saying the same thing trying to cash in on that Falun Gong money.
Anonymous (ID: kijYTVvG) United States No.515289382
>>515285759 (OP)
He said it's over. It's over. for the 6 millionth time!
Anonymous (ID: NFC8OnlT) United States No.515289392
>>515285759 (OP)
China isn’t stupid and Zeihan works for the CIA
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515289460
Anonymous (ID: Wv9EOKfY) United States No.515289463 >>515290583
>>515285759 (OP)
>Does anyone actually have any good arguments against Zeihan's china collapse theory other than just spamming "Two more weeks"? Because as I see it, China is fucking done for
autocracy is inherently weak and incompetent, but it can last a long time depending on how ruthless it is
too bad Xi is emulating Mao, like Putin emulating Stalin. What a stupid time to be alive. Humanity almost doesnt deserve to survive if depraved despots like this can rule for decades.
Anonymous (ID: lahYgVTk) United States No.515289608 >>515289742
>>515285759 (OP)
China is in for a rough decade like everyone else since the entire global economy is dying so I guess in a way it's collapsing. It's not going to collapse as hard as America is though. Or France, or basically all of the EU.
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515289742 >>515290074
>>515289608
China played it pretty safe the last economic collapse and actually had money to buy things like mines in Australia which made the US Government chimp out and changed the Kevin Rudd government.
Anonymous (ID: YiCQUh2k) United States No.515289842 >>515289912 >>515294897
>>515285759 (OP)
Preface- I hate China with a burning passion after my personal experience living there so I am very biased.

That said, zeihan is overly zealous with his projections. "Collapse" is a very charged word. China is certainly failing, but like the US stock market or banks the question isn't about complete failure but rather how far will it bottom out before stabalization.
China has major issues that Z does a great job identifying, the argument against him is ultimately China will always have a large, trained workforce, experience with manufacture, and a large amount of natural resources to leverage that every other country on earth wants to take advantage of. Even if the government is overthrown by the people, China culturally won't change and will just adopt a more liberal version of what it has now.
Their currency has been overvalued and their standard of living inflated creating a fake "middle class". Now that there is any hardship wealth is being centralized. The realistic reset for China will be a redistribution of wealth that ultimately sees larger quantities of people with less, but more employment for many, less territorial expansion as the country focuses inward to fix itself as expansionism is likely to be the scapegoat for the next administration.
Anonymous (ID: Lr1WCRgE) United States No.515289870
>>515285759 (OP)
China is collapsing

No kidding
Anonymous (ID: Lr1WCRgE) United States No.515289900
>>515285759 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: kijYTVvG) United States No.515289912
>>515289842
>Preface- I hate China with a burning passion
Stopped reading right there.

anyone who says 'burning passion' is retarded.
Anonymous (ID: 7vmR99fG) United States No.515290025
>>515285759 (OP)
Can you post the video?
Anonymous (ID: lahYgVTk) United States No.515290074 >>515290287 >>515290368 >>515290583
>>515289742
Turns out centrally planned economies weather storms better than free markets that only look after themselves. Unfortunately there is no knowledge to be gained here for America, just passes right through us.
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515290175 >>515291217 >>515291665
Good thing trains suck, I got mine and I am moving out of the city where we aint got no niggers.
- t. Magalard
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515290287
>>515290074
I think we are pretty much centrally planned. Everything comes from a few monopolies that are plugged in to venture capital money printing banks. Not so dissimilar from Korea.
Anonymous (ID: qImg1MrP) United States No.515290338
>>515285759 (OP)
All their cities are ghost cities

ttps://youtu.be/_8WCiRW0vZw?t=504
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https://youtu.be/AL8XjbBgTck
https://youtu.be/GDjLkQRo4TA
Anonymous (ID: kijYTVvG) United States No.515290368
>>515290074
>Turns out centrally planned economies weather storms better than free markets
Wow, this big and huge, The United States isn't centrally planned in the slightest!
Anonymous (ID: 1775YJZE) United States No.515290524
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Anonymous (ID: 5aipo2QG) United States No.515290583 >>515291199
>>515290074
There is no "free market" in the US if there was we wouldn't have a FED that, by law, prints money out of nothing and gives it to bankers.

Instead we have a crony capitalist system where the government picks winners and losers.
>>515289463
reads like actual Eglin propaganda
Anonymous (ID: 8sYiKGbi) United Kingdom No.515290819
China is led by ethnonationalists who want their civilisation to be #1.

The West is led by cucks who take every opportunity to attack their own people and just want to make a quick buck during their brief 5-10 years in power.

Which one will win?
Anonymous (ID: kb0PSik0) Brazil No.515290918 >>515295812
>>515286391
China only needs America’s consumer market, which is overinflated because they control the world reserve currency and thus are able to extract surplus value from literally every other country in the world via debt. The moment america loses that, it won’t have the financial fiat to back up its consumption, and the capital associated with it will be reassigned around the globe.
Anonymous (ID: GsSknggZ) Canada No.515291032
>>515285759 (OP)
>Because as I see it, China is fucking done for
Buy an ad Pete
Anonymous (ID: kb0PSik0) Brazil No.515291199 >>515291305
>>515290583
> There is no "free market" in the US if there was we wouldn't have a FED that, by law, prints money out of nothing and gives it to bankers
You niggers need to learn what these terms mean. This post makes it clear that you have no clue what β€œfree market” is. And I won’t even try to explain how are completely ignorant of monetary theory.
Anonymous (ID: RtCOMFXw) United States No.515291210
>>515285759 (OP)
>Jim Rogers, the Peter Schiff/Jim Kramer of China-Hawks

They're smart enough of communists to fetishize interwar Germany of last century, and their geopolitical approach, particularly Karl Schmitt-- and that Lenin's New Economic Policy and subsequent War Socialism Stalin demonstrated both that there is no skipping to 'pure' communism, and that any and all measures to facilitate Socialism in One Country can be undertaken regardless of how they look - 'too market economy capitalist! too fascistic public-private corporatist!' regardless
Anonymous (ID: Lr1WCRgE) United States No.515291217
>>515290175
Anonymous (ID: 5aipo2QG) United States No.515291305
>>515291199
Funny how prior to the FED there was no central bank in the US and effectively anyone could start up a bank and lend money (effectively creating money)

That's why you can't explain why the current system is a "free market" because it isn't one.
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515291400
>>515285759 (OP)
two years more!
Anonymous (ID: lmw+vbY9) Mexico No.515291411
>>515285759 (OP)
he's completely right

in two weeks we'll see the beginning of the end that will take two weeks more tops and then an epilogue in two weeks
Anonymous (ID: 8OsYr20a) Portugal No.515291513
>>515286820
Yo its the doro korean poster.
Anonymous (ID: AHIpK6r7) United States No.515291613
MIGAtard cope
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515291665 >>515291773
>>515290175
Anonymous (ID: edgsNF2B) Australia No.515291684
>>515285759 (OP)
Check out his older videos
Anonymous (ID: edgsNF2B) Australia No.515291753
>>515286237
Americans are circumcised as a contingency measure to keep them impotent and easy to manipulate
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515291770
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515291773 >>515291885
>>515291665
Anonymous (ID: 3XId9KuG) India No.515291788
>>515285759 (OP)
Why is China collapsing but America with its pre-weimar tier asset hyperinflation and nigger apocalypse not collapsing?
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515291885 >>515291968 >>515292609
>>515291773
video of that bridge collapse will be glorious!
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515291968 >>515292066
>>515291885
So much for arches being the strongest.
Anonymous (ID: dcB4lynW) Ireland No.515291994
CIC (China is collapsing)
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515292007 >>515295277
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515292066 >>515292102
>>515291968
notice that gap in arch
chinese masonry at it finest
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515292102 >>515292854
>>515292066
Anonymous (ID: KGsH6/5g) United States No.515292609
>>515291885
Anonymous (ID: MazmoBy6) United States No.515292777
>>515285759 (OP)
two more weeks. we just need to give israel 20 billion more dollars before the year ends and china collapses for sure! MIGA MIGA MIGA
keep sucking jewish cock and letting nigger judges and nigger DAs appointed by kikes release violent criminals MIGA MIGA MIGA
Anonymous (ID: OvOyv3di) Serbia No.515292854
>>515292102

>designed by women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse
Anonymous (ID: 5wzhyHDG) United Kingdom No.515293012
>>515285759 (OP)

at the end of day statistics and gdp are all made up jewish pseudo science

all the matters is having bigger population and if enough resources to provide for them
Anonymous (ID: boFXXUsY) United States No.515293021
>>515285759 (OP)
Because he has been saying that "x is going to make China collapse" for several years now. China isn't quite the powerhouse it used to be, but it most certainly hasn't collapsed.
Anonymous (ID: 4Xvky/d2) No.515293115
zeihan is a total retard. Every video is him throwing darts in the dark at which country is collapsing. Literally a gambler lol. Avoid
Anonymous (ID: vmMKFdmp) Russian Federation No.515293294
>>515285759 (OP)
>Because as I see it, China is fucking done for
Great "pro" argument thoughbeit.
Anonymous (ID: 3O89CEsW) Canada No.515293418
>>515285759 (OP)
Stop listen to fear porn on youtube
Anonymous (ID: KLSoMmZV) United States No.515293833
>>515285759 (OP)
Zeihan's theory does make sense when you consider that the communist system primarily targets all displays of intelligence in the general population in order to achieve total nonthreatening conformity of equal stupidity amongst the population -- to render them more into more easily controllable sheeple

The star of the movie The Killing Fields did in fact have to let his pregnant wife and child die right before him in the rice fields, because if he took measures to save her, it would likely reveal that he had medical knowledge because he was, in fact, secretly a doctor, which the Cambodian communist regime would've killed him for on the spot

The point is that China, being communist since, forever, is not only a devoutly anti-mind culture, but it has been one for a long enough time that not only have any intelligent people been killed off long ago, but very likely it has even killed off the very genes for true intelligence by now

And so how do you really think a society that is fanatically dedicated to destroying innovative intelligence could possibly have created a truly sound technological society, as opposed to just an ostentatious sham of one?

China's techno-culture, to the extent that any of it is actually authentic, HAD to have been exported and/or dictated by the puppeteers of the Western world -- and as it turns out, that has secretly been the Rockefeller family, and in particular their Yale Law School graduate Nick Rockefeller, and his right-hand-man with the last name Snowden and a flair for computer technology

(and, no, not THAT Snowden -- a different one)
Anonymous (ID: XnPxaspW) United States No.515294897
>>515289842
>China will always have a large, trained workforce
They're burning down factories because they haven't been paid in months.
Anonymous (ID: XnPxaspW) United States No.515295277
>>515292007
kind of jaunty
Anonymous (ID: iSu4xk4A) Switzerland No.515295568
>>515285759 (OP)
If I say "America is going to collapse", and then 50 years after I die America finally collapses, was I right or was I wrong?

Zeihan is just a paid CIA shill.
Anonymous (ID: yDdKxKz1) No.515295773
>>515285759 (OP)
Yeah, this is the argument: You're massively coping
Anonymous (ID: 6PKaEurW) Latvia No.515295812
>>515290918
They will still be consuming a lot more than 3rd worlders like you
Anonymous (ID: qImg1MrP) United States No.515295977
>>515285759 (OP)
China is so unstable that they might collapse literally anyday now
Anonymous (ID: oC9VnGVi) Hong Kong No.515297656
Exact same energy, its pathetic
Anonymous (ID: JhHtcQDN) Canada No.515297723
>>515285759 (OP)
>Does anyone actually have any good arguments against Zeihan's china collapse
TWO MORE WEEKS
Anonymous (ID: IkVufoCs) Malaysia No.515298037
>>515285759 (OP)
April ght lads look at my flag, hear me out. We got two options, one is the pedophile satanic republic who is gonna steal my foreskin and kill & rape my child., vs the commie athiest who will maybe put a boot to my neck.
Talk about lesser of two evils, what do you think I should take?
Anonymous (ID: NEVxgxSs) Japan No.515298168
Current situation of China looks like Japan in 1995.
So China will have political crisis in 2030-2035.