Thread 515398814

Are we about to see a bunch of political violence here like there was in the Troubles?

>>515398814 (OP)
was the troubles even real? i heard there was some fishy stuff going on when the ira "surrendered"

>>515398814 (OP)
>Are we about to see a bunch of political violence here like there was in the Troubles?
No. More like the Years of Lead or Bleeding Kansas.

>>515398814 (OP)
not at all. there is no such group in america. you're just going to get raided if you criticize israel

>>515398814 (OP)
No. For it to succeed you need elite backing. The IRA had wealthy Irish-American diaspora sustaining it (with money and guns). It didn't really accomplish much though, it was just enough to keep it going (in a cycle, like gang violence). But things did change when Qaddafi started to give them actual military grade explosives, RPG launchers, even anti-air.

For a similar thing to happen in the US you need people with either hundreds of millions or you need branches of the military to just defect (and essentially now you have the government fighting itself with all the stockpiles).

The idea that it's going to kick off because some zionist shabbos goy egghead got killed by some leftist retard is not how it gets going. Northern Ireland was (and still is) like a country within a country. Do you have that yet in the US? Are the leftists barred from even walking down into certain towns? Would they get beaten up really badly or worse if they tried it? I don't think so. For now people are still too comfortable. This is still being seen as entertainment for people. You need people with wealth and power to have an 'oh shit' moment and kick into gear. (at great personal risk). They're not doing that over a guy like Charlie Kirk. They have to have something important to lose.

>>515401471
>Are the leftists barred from even walking down into certain towns?
damn, does this really happen in Ireland?

You have some good points. I don’t think we will have the “troubles” but I do think we will have another civil war (though it definitely won’t be over Charlie Kirk lol). Most people don’t realize the U.S. has already had two civil wars. The Revolutionary War was a British civil war. Civil wars are in our nature. The next one will happen when a Democrat president is in office and when red states like Texas, Florida, Ohio, N.C. etc. don’t comply with laws and use their national guards to try to prevent any federal interventions. It almost happened during Biden’s term when he sent troops to Eagle Pass to tear down border protections, the Texas guard blocked them from coming in, and other red states sent their guards to Texas to assist.

Also I hate when people say a nation is too “comfortable” to go to war. Wars don’t start over discomfort lol.

>>515398814 (OP)
Doubt it, though I won't discount the possibility. The two things that I'd say are in the way are a lack of a uniting identity and democracy.
>identity
The Troubles had a clear cut between Catholic and Protestant, British and Irish, Republican and Unionist. America doesn't have that. You don't differentiate enough between them, your national identity is more free than ours. You could organise but you'd have trouble identifying an out group unless you follow racial lines, which Christianity (the strongest apsect of your national identity) would reject.
>democracy
The ultimate pressure release valve. People are more than willing to wait a few years for a possible decent candidate than they are to start a revolutionary cell. Mice will keep swimming when they think there's possibly a way out if they keep going. They'll swim until they die of exhaustion, the end result of our democracy.
The reason it's not impossible is because of retardation and chaos. The Troubles didn't begin with masks and Armalites, it began with riots that spiralled out of control. I think you're still far off from that but it's not impossible.

>>515398814 (OP)
The Years of Lead would be a better comparison

Unlike Americans, the Irish have balls. Or used to have them.

>>515398814 (OP)
When words fail that's all that's left.

No because if the right started committing acts of violence the state would bring the hammer down. They currently dont have a legal system or a regime that unilaterally has their backs.

Remember:
No = Yes
Yes = No

Anons have to say "no" due to not being traced by glowies.

>>515403020
he's talking about catholic v protestant, not left v right

>>515401471
So we need to set up no-go zones.

>>515398814 (OP)
probably not

>>515401471
Society, that is "infrastructure",is exponentially more vulnerable to sabotage now. A truck full of hillbillies with bolt actions were able to knock out power to an entire city a few years back.

>>515398814 (OP)
years of lead is a better comparison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)

>>515403020
Conflicts between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland, he means.

>>515404279
>red states
>Texas, Florida, Ohio, N.C.

Lmao. A helpless White girl was just murdered in plain view on a subway train in NC and the White passengers didn't even call the cops (though they had their phones out). Get with the times you fucking boomer. All of those places are turning heavily blue and you did nothing to stop the replacement.

>>515398814 (OP)
Nope, we're still too comfy
Jan 6th taught rightoids that pwison is scawwy and now they're well behaved again

>>515398814 (OP)
Troubles are when a McFlurry machine is broken.

Everyone's too fat, lazy, stupid, brown and cowardly to act and do anything. Not that are things on the national level that would justify any sacrifice.

>>515404726
>>515405029
right, thank you. I'm ignorant on this subject.

>>515401471
>>515404383
Both good posts. Britain is closer to a sort of "troubles" than America is and that's simply because of the strong ethnic elements, but it's still missing key element like elite backing and ability to conduct such an insurgency.

>>515401471
I like where your heads at but simple things have escalated into bigger. For example ww1 and George Floyd summer of love.

>>515404609
This
>>515404383
The distinction is pro vs. anti White. Most of us are just too (((brainwashed))) to see it or too cowardly and compliant to admit it. Except for the anti-White faction who openly revel in it.

>>515404383
>The Troubles had a clear cut between Catholic and Protestant, British and Irish, Republican and Unionist. America doesn't have that. You don't differentiate enough between them, your national identity is more free than ours. You could organise but you'd have trouble identifying an out group unless you follow racial lines, which Christianity (the strongest apsect of your national identity) would reject.
Literally every issue in american politics is cut almost exclusively along racial, sexual, and religious lines when you look at the population under 50, which is the only population that matters.

It's literally 90% white straight Christian men on one side of every issue, and all the browns on the other.

>>515405147
Nigs are openly committing murder and getting a catch and release at worst meanwhile.

>>515403020
The word 'leftists' in this context refers to the antifa types that would be on the other side of an American civil war.

In Ireland it was based on ethnic, sectarian and whether NI should be part of the Union with the UK or not. People made it abundantly clear where their allegiances lay. Like see pic related, using the colours from the Union jack on the pavements (putting up union flags and murals) made it pretty clear to you that you were now entering that community. And people were stopped and questioned it they weren't recognised.

The flare ups in certain places became so frequent that they constructed "peace walls" - physical barriers at certain streets to prevent clashes.

>>515404784
The thing is that even if you don't do it, your enemies absolutely will do it you. I'd imagine there are likely parts of certain cities in America that are already effectively "no go" for a certain type of person. I.e. you'll just end up like that Ukrainian girl on the train if you go sit beside niggers.

>>515398814 (OP)
not on any level more than sensational gossip tier, no.

>>515399910
what is years of lead? i keep hearing it but no one explains it.

>>515405103
>Subway
Cities are blue. All cities all the time are blue. The war is city vs country. Nothing that happens in a city matters.
URBUS DELENDA EST

>>515405492
Basically any inner city is no go if you're White and we all know it, just nobody talks about it. "He was in the wrong neighborhood" is one of the many, MANY excuses to let murderous niggers back out on the streets again (at this point they barely even bother with the excuse portion anymore, just a level of "no consequences for blacks" that'd make the modern UK proud)
As an aside, can I ask why English Protestants are considered too foreign for you lot but so many of you are fine mass importing Arab Muslims?

>usa
>trump attempt
>tesla burnings
>brian thompson
>minnesota dems shot and killed
>kirk killed
all i can remember for 2024-2025, 2025-2026. normies still aren't freaking out. while normies don't freak out, nothing happens.

>>515405165

Jesus - hope all those guns are to go after that town's barber.

>>515405656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)

>>515398814 (OP)
>>515404383
>>515401471
>>515405165
>>515405492
SURE IT IS OLD BUT IT IS BEATIFUL
AND ITS COLOURS THEY ARE FINE

>>515398814 (OP)
Not the Troubles but the Spanish civil war. We're in the "prelude" period with both parties solidifying their base, just like what happened in the late 1910s, early 20s and 30s.
What worries me is that politics is geographical now.

>>515398814 (OP)
golly gee i sure hope so

>>515406197
My father talks about those years a lot

>>515405492
Are you from NI? I always wondered whether someone posting from there appears with an Irish or UK flag

>>515398814 (OP)
No. By and large no one is going to do shit except say mean things, certainly none of the faggots here. You'll continue to see the odd lone wolf here and there, but there won't be a significant, coordinated effort. People aren't willing to risk giving up their (relative) comforts and luxuries.

>>515398814 (OP)
Some political violence yes, but nothing organized, sustained, and focused like The Troubles were.

We are going to have more random lone wolf shootings here and there, maybe some arson, but the people that commit these acts won't know each other and won't have a common goal.

The closest I could see this being a thing might be in some cities like Portland which have a high concentration of like minded leftists already willing to organize and attack the state.

>>515405462
in leftoid cities killing leftoid women but rightoids take it personally
and on some level yeah its bad that our cities all got usurped but its pathetic to simp for some BLM bitch who abandoned her country

>>515406623
Forgot to remove my memefag

cough MANY THINGS CAN ACCIDENTALLY BE MADE INTO IEDs oof wow sorry guys my tourettes or something is acting up
satire
satire

>>515398814 (OP)
nothing is gunna happen, cuckservatives spread the other cheek through and through

>>515406654
>We are going to have more random lone wolf shootings here and there, maybe some arson, but the people that commit these acts won't know each other and won't have a common goal.
I would've thought the same 10 years ago, but Trumps administration is the most polarized in the history of the country. Theres really nothing stopping him from committing state terrorism.

>>515398814 (OP)
Illinois Republican Army
Utah Volunteer Force

The difference is the IRA were okay with blowing up kids and murdering innocent people as long as they Protestants.

When literally all you want to do is murder people for their religious belief, it's very easy to be very effective.

>>515406881
>cough MANY THINGS CAN ACCIDENTALLY BE MADE INTO IEDs
I to enjoy chinese webms.

>>515405226
>Britain is closer to a sort of "troubles" than America is and that's simply because of the strong ethnic elements
100%. Britain's closer than Ireland in my opinion.
>ability to conduct such an insurgency
An important point is that Ireland had a revolution and civil war only a few decades before. There were old hands to shepherd a new generation of paramilitary violence. What can millennials and gen x teach gen z and alpha about guerrilla warfare? Even the early IRA was hampered by retarded Marxist interpretation of how things should be run and they had had serious fuckers amongst them. New groups will be fatherless and directed by the ideological goals of people who waited for others to take action.

>>515406158
Normies do whatever the talmudvision tells them
>>515406270
Wow, gay lmao

>>515398814 (OP)
No, because the year is 2025 and we have no testosterone and we eat a constant diet of goyslop while being irradiated by 5g signals. Look at the guy in your picture. He doesn't exist in 2025

no, the troubles were systematic and group-oriented. It was more like America in the 60s 70s when you had the antivietnam protests and anarchist violence like weather underground. Now all we have are lone shooters carrying out individual assassinations. There's no more planning and group identity because its too easily infiltrated and destroyed by the feds.

>>515409173
not to mention in the early to mid 1900s you had world war vets. ireland had many people in the royal navy

>>515401471
>Would they get beaten up really badly or worse if they tried it?
No but the right has been, and now there is no hiding the fact that debating the left just results in an assassination attempt backed by leftists in the government. So next time you call someone a fascist they are very likely to just shoot you in the face multiple times and walk off to eat their last meal before shooting it out with the cops. Not exactly the environment you wanted to create, but it is what it is. You cant put that bullet back and you cant force the djinn back into the lamp.

>>515398814 (OP)
It's going to be more like the years of lead except there won't be a USA to drag us out of it unless someone cucks out hard to China.

>>515401471
Yes, we do have a country within a country. It's called the district of Columbia.

>>515411874
Basically every nigger shithole blue city is a country within a country, just a 3rd or 4th world one

>>515404913
There are a lot of things that people *could* do. But for them to actually to start to do things their risk calculus has to change. I mean yeah you could go around causing economic damage to your own infrastructure but for *what*? Why are you risking prison time or worse?

If you look at a situation like NI, it started with riots, those then get out of control for local police to handle. So the military (from outside is sent in). But it turned out sending in teenagers trained to kill into a riot situation was a bad idea. When innocent people died that raised the stakes. A guy whose 12 year old cousin or nephew was shot by said forces, that's the kind of thing that makes them join something like the IRA. But you understand there has to be a chain of events to get there.

>>515405270
And you can see why they want to sweep that under the rug and refuse to just call it what it is, a no go zone. They'd try to hold you accountable if you tried to some some group coming in with trans or antifa flags to your town but they would try to hold you to a different standard if you carried the confederate flag around.

>can I ask why English Protestants are considered too foreign for you
European identity is one that has been forged in wars for many hundreds of years before there was even a United States. If your country is relatively new and it's formed from a mish-mash of different European groups then it's counter productive to focus on ethnic differences between Europeans. Especially when Jews brought in niggers.

>so many of you are fine mass importing Arab Muslims
It's only a minority. People will take some subset from say leftists in Dublin and say well that must be the majority view. That's like if I hand picked white people from somewhere like NYC with a BLM shirt and said those represent most Americans. Same thing is playing out here, cities are becoming sewers for leftists/browns where as the more rural you go, the less crazy it is.

>>515409173
There's lots of disgruntled war on terror vets out there
>lost to muh sandnigs
Sure, but they have experience in fighting insurgency.

>>515398814 (OP)
No, the irish actually fought back. While white mutt americans are scared shitless to say "nigger", "faggot" or "tranny" in real life.

BLACK GENOCIDE, NOW..........

>>515399544
Kindof. America has far more violent tendencies, I would see mob rule in places rather than skirmishes and hit and run attacks. Like youll have people on one side "owning" territory and youll get people asking "where are you from" to see if you are an enemy or not.

You use to get traffic stops by masked men here, I dont think youll get that in the US because someone who isnt even involved in the conflict in either way could lean out the window with a gun in self defence, or would pull out a phone and start shouting about their rights to someone who doesnt give a fuck because they arent a cop. That might be funny honestly.

>>515409173
>What can millennials and gen x teach gen z and alpha about guerrilla warfare?
Exactly, there's the GWOT generation but many of them are either lefties or just Tommy Robinson civnats. MI5 are efficient and know how to nip such movements in the bud before they get off the ground as well. It's what anons don't understand about the recent stuff in Nepal, you can't just do that here. British intelligence would have your door kicked down before you can piss if you took part in any serious dissident activities. It happened last August, and that was rather tame. The British state has spent decades perfecting the art of breaking down insurgent groups. It's not impossible, but a lot of stuff have to align for it to happen.

>>515398814 (OP)
its gonna make the troubles seem like playtime

>>515412205
Anon is dropping wise words.

>>515398814 (OP)
No, people still identify with system politics and not their own people.

>>515401471
Chicks and russkies will hook us up

>>515412205
Appreciate your posts. I'm in flight heading for Dublin now with a wedding later in NI. I wish I was more studied on the subject. Further, I'm Protestant but traditional Lutheran. I consider myself closer to Catholicism than the majority of Christians I know in the USA. I'm going to visit lots of churches and I like talking religion and theology in pubs. I want to meet Irish Catholics but I have a minor apprehension about it.

>>515401471
>No. For it to succeed you need elite backing. The IRA had wealthy Irish-American diaspora sustaining it (with money and guns). It didn't really accomplish much though, it was just enough to keep it going

That's just pure and utter bullshit right there. The IRA campaign was sustained by funds raised in Ireland either through bank robberies and shit like that or through legitimate businesses they had front men run for them.. Anyone can look this up.

>>515399544
It was a bunch of bolshevik Catholic trannies (yes, actual troons) murdering innocent civilian Protestants instead of going after politicians / judges / police. The IRA deserve death.

>>515398814 (OP)
Yes, it will be worse. It'll be Haymarket or Bleeding Kansas 2.0 or Ukraine in 2014.

>>515398814 (OP)
wrong era for that. modern femboys are only good for shooting up schools and walmarts.

>>515409173
>An important point is that Ireland had a revolution and civil war only a few decades before

50 years before the troubles. The youngest of them would have been in their 70s when the troubles started. There was nobody from that generation shepherding the IRA and many if them didn't even support them. If anything it was Irish Catholic ex servicemen from Northern Ireland who had served in the British army prior to the troubles.

>>515415655
Kill yourself.

>>515398814 (OP)
Americans are too fat, stupid, divided and uneducated to launch a marxist-leninist revolution against their own government like the northern Irish did so no, that will not be happening.

>>515415655
>instead of going after politicians / judges / police
You are a fucking retard that knows absolutely nothing.

>>515415532
>want to meet Irish Catholics but I have a minor apprehension about it.

If you want to meet Catholics and talk about theology then you're going to be disappointed because we just go to mass and know fuck all about the theology. It's crazy the amount of old folk I know who've gone to mass weekly their whole lives and know fuck all the religion or theology and never owned or read a Bible. Even most the Protestants aren't that religious and know little

>>515412205
I suppose ancestral grudges like that aren't easy to overlook. In any event hopefully you stay united against the (((mutual enemy))) same as we should. They're doing the same thing there as here. Glad to know it's just your shitty urban leftists though.
>>515415532
Don't be too opinionated about matters of dogma (shouldn't be a problem from what I can glean from your post). And try to attend a Full Latin/Tridentine Mass when you can. Also, veneration of the saints (esp. Mary, but also Joseph) is not "idolatry" that's a shitty zio-evangelical take.
I have to say the Lutherans are my favorite prots atm. You guys are pretty based and I don't see any faggotry, open borders shit or cunt female "pastors" coming from that tradition.

>>515417298
>If you want to meet Catholics and talk about theology then you're going to be disappointed because we just go to mass and know fuck all about the theology. It's crazy the amount of old folk I know who've gone to mass weekly their whole lives and know fuck all the religion or theology and never owned or read a Bible. Even most the Protestants aren't that religious and know little
Religion has probably always been like this.
In fact, mass literacy has likely always been pointless, since most people, even given the ability to read, just don't read.
We'd do better to go back to the 1200s when 5% of people were literate. Only people who need literacy, like the clergy, should be trained in letters.

>>515417940
Or worse they read garbage like Twilight and shitty blogs.
Not everyone needs free speech either. Social media was a mistake.

>>515416914
>Seamus O'Práta walks up to a an innocent gaggle of 100 schoolchildren
>Clad in a skull laden ski mask and wearing neonazi dm boots he raises the barrel of his assault rifle 15 to their brainstems
>"This is for Cathal Brugha!" he shouts, not knowing he was actually killed by his kin
This is something that happened every day during the troubles. Very sad.

>>515418101
Social media and free speech aren't equivalent. You can have one and not have the other.

>>515401471
I agree and I don’t think an American meltdown really has any would-be parallels. Not even the first civil war. Too big, too diverse (unironically), too car dependent and the divide is along ideological lines rather than anything else. The geographical element is rural vs city which is also strange

No, we are seeing the collapse of the neoliberal, boomer liberalism. Dems are not polling worth a shit.

lol no. Your typical 'radical' is a pussy that will fold the moment they set foot out of a leftist controlled zone and can't strike at those who can't strike back. Basically, if you produce anything of real value (read: actually make something that it is possible to distribute credit against) all these people want a piece of it. But they're too much of a cowardly slime to take from you directly, so they're going to keep agitating for an excuse to implement some means to get closer and closer to the source of money and closer to the front of the line for the first distribution of that money. Until something major breaks at the federal level, the petty murders and other such criminal acts will continue.

>>515405425
Doesn't matter, the vast majority of white americans are conditioned to believe black people are true americans. Cuckservatives will demonise you for suggesting otherwise.

>>515423551
>he vast majority of white americans are conditioned to believe black people are true americans
In relatively safe conditions with government threats. Are you old enough to remember what happened in Katrina? Whites were patrolling their neighborhoods and shooting niggers that wandered in as looters.

>>515398814 (OP)
No, he will be forgotten soon.

>>515413334
>violent tendencies
Add it to the list.
Americans are fags, we're decades past the point where any sane nation would have started stringing up politicians.

>>515398814 (OP)
Too bad there are no White Nationalist paramilitaries in existance anymore, damn shame.

>>515398814 (OP)
>violence here like there was in the Troubles?

The socialists caused that violence, same as everywhere else.

>>515401471
>Are the leftists barred from even walking down into certain towns? Would they get beaten up really badly or worse if they tried it? I don't think so.
Yes, in small pockets, places like Montana are pushing back on the Californians moving in, they do property damage mostly now and no one talks about it, but these western states know the contagion Cali faggots bring.

I don't see it, since American right-wingers never actually fight back. An Irish-style conflict requires at least two sides.

>>515398814 (OP)
Maybe. All the savage niggers, spics, wops, papists, and kikes are all starting to rub each other the wrong way. White protestants can sit back and laugh.

>>515415655
>>515416873
>>515416914
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

>>515425625
California is extremely red outside of LA and SF, and most of the people who move away do so because they are conservatives among other reasons. It's rare to see a left leaning Californian want to leave california.

>>515398814 (OP)
>the Troubles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_(1989_film)
Kino

>>515399914
Trump has been importing some militant Zionist groups.