Thread 515421017

Can a vest manufacturer be sued for damages to the neck caused by spalling?

>>515421017 (OP)
No.

Based

>>515421017 (OP)
maybe, but it's hard to be sued for spalling when someone just shoots your neck in the first place

>>515421020
His vest popped out

>>515421017 (OP)
Probably not since if they weren't wearing one they'd have a bullet hole in their chest instead of some lead chips in their neck.

>>515421021
Source?

>>515421023
The video

>>515421017 (OP)
i need evidence of some fat boomer nigger doing just this posthaste

>>515421023
It looks like he was hit in the plate, but the bullet spalled or ricocheted into his neck and head.
You can sort of see the outline of the plate in webm related.

amror smiths in the mediveal ages figured this out and some historic pieces feature a stop ridge on the breastplate. would be interesting to find out what type of plate he actually wore, most likely steel

>>515421027
It would have to have been a low-profile steel rifle plate. Bullshit LARP AR500 armor if he cheaped out, or VelSys ULV if he dropped some coin on it. Either way, IF he was wearing a plate, it goes to show that steel rifle plates are a bad idea.

>>515421026
is he ok?

>>515421029
Charlie Kirk is dead

You have to admit, that was a good shot.

>>515421030
I don't know who that is. Is he related to James T. Kirk?

>>515421028
he definetively wore a plate, stop the webm or the other vids at some moments and you can easily see the shape imprint on his tshirt, also the moment it hits the plate his shock and then how it slides off into his throat

>>515421032
No, but he is related to T.J. Kirk

im still perplexed how he was instantly lights out
would spalling have the energy to go through the neck and through all the bone and shit into the brain?

>>515421035
Sudden drop in blood pressure leads to syncope.

>>515421024
>>515421026
All the ones I was seeing were trash/blurred, thanks.
>Out of all the things charlie Kirk expected to be dying for eternally btfoing the steel rifle plate Jews probably wasn't on the list
RIP

>>515421035
I think the bullet severed his spinal cord.

>>515421023
some retard's thread on pol
coping mechanism based on distractions

>>515421031
>200yds
>COM
>No major wind
Pretty friggin easy as long as you're triple digit IQ and have decent mag for the distance.

>>515421036
instantly though? im not even sure he knew he got shot
ive seen videos of people taking machetes to the neck and remain conscious for longer than that

>>515421041
>>515421026
Look at that gushing. People fighting with machetes are pumped on adrenaline. But it also depends on an individual.
That's of course my guess, and I am anonymous.

>200yds
>CUM
>No major wind
Pretty friggin easy as long as you're triple digit IQ and have decent porn for the distance.

>>515421041
Depends on the amount of blood loss. A shallowish cut to the neck might result in rapid bloodloss when the artery gets severed, but you saw how much blood he's losing from the gunshot. Plus, the posturing tells me he's suffered some kind of brain or spinal damage which probably contributed.

>>515421017 (OP)
No, since no vest company will do anything to mislead you that it will protect you from spalling or your house burning down and is not negligently designed in some way that caused you to believe you should rely on it for that.

On the other hand an old lady sued mcdonalds for coffee served a few tens of degrees below the boiling point of water, you know like how coffee is brewed. And because she was old enough and managed to burn her cunt badly enough she got millions and everyone in the modern generation thinks she was 100% in the right even though your average corner cafe probably serves coffee as hot if you dip a thermocouple in it.

So yeah you can drop a knife on your foot and sue for it being too sharp, it's your birthright as an American, but you will almost certainly lose if you're a random white adult playing with weapons and not some puppy dog victim.
(Cf. dozens of hot coffee cases after the McDonalds one, non elderly who reacted to the hot liquid fast enough not to get horrible burns never won because lmao it's a hot liquid life isn't daycare.)

>>515421042
there is also this famous stabbing vid in australia I think where this manlet stabs some big unaware retard into the throat only once and he collapses in seconds, lots of blood flowing out. it always depends where you get hit. cheap machetes aren't even that sharp and most criminals who have them are tok stupid to sharpen them

>>515421017 (OP)
>damages to the neck
Mr. Kirk you were shot directly in the neck. No you can't sue. Stop listening to your jewish masters for one minute and RIP in peace

>>515421047
topkek

>>515421047
if you slow down the videos you can see his t-shirt flutter before his neck fucking explodes
100% a ricochet or spall off of his vest

>>515421037
> the steel rifle plate Jews
In fairness the biggest shit-tier steel plate shills are very performative with their "Christ is KING" marketing.
Still looks like they've just been terribly BTFO.

>>515421043
>decent porn for the distance

>>515421052
not very incognito THOUGH

Could the zing from the bullet going by have caused the shirt to move?

>>515421052
Clever, but, I feel like it could be done in a more subtle way.
Is this design used anywhere?

>>515421026

100% it was shrapnel hitting the back of his brain as seen by the typical hand postures after the impact

steelbros??? our response???

>>515421053
> Wearing all that
> Still wearing a high-cut helmet.
lmao. High-cuts have been out of fashion in Ukraine for more than two years now.

>>515421017 (OP)
Should've used ceramic.

>>515421052
A gorget is a more modern and reasonable comparison but yeah, it'll be funny to see in probably 10-20 more years that full kit is basically camo knights.

>>515421058
Get better video quality

>>515421060
Where's the hole in the shirt?

>>515421062
sorry bro I'll go back in time and get some higher quality footage

>>515421056
>Is this design used anywhere?
Yes.

>>515421064
You better

why didn't god deflect the bullet in literally any other direction?

>>515421058
lmao the realization on his face

>>515421060
>central nervous system shrekt
>artery shot
Big ol off

allegedly this is the shooters weapon
can anyone ID?

>>515421070
Not from that, basic bitch hunting rifle.
>>515421068
Dude went from end of statement smug to "fuuuuug here comes the darkness" in like half a second

>>515421070
Doubt they would just place it against a cop car like that, probably just some cop's gun that he brought in to "counter snipe"

>>515421072
its from a video of cops arresting the suspect

>>515421061
>it'll be funny to see in probably 10-20 more years that full kit is basically camo knights.
IBA full kit was already this, but then we realized it was stupid except for EOD and that ceramic don't have spalling and is better than steel

>>515421073
There's video of the actual suspect? or is it the old man?

>>515421070
>>515421073
A Remington.

>>515421040
Even with open sights its not particularly challenging with a centerfire rifle.

>>515421073
thats a BB gun

>>515421067
All part of gods plan.

>>515421045
That coffee was way too fucking hot and she was horrificly burnt on her GENITALS.

t. Tort lawyer (not plaintiff side either)

Is this a phenomenon where the trajectory of a ricochet follows the angle of the reflecting surface?

>>515421063
Collar

>>515421070
>>515421073
>>515421078
That's obviously a bad photo but it does look like a break-barrel pellet gun with the integral "suppressor" that a lot of those things have

>>515421074
Those were steel?
Jesus christ how horrifying.

Proper posture while sitting would've saved his life.

>>515421080
>TL : that coffee was hotter than usual and gave her a 1st degree burn on her pelvis
that's lawyer speak for you

didn't the brits have a plate which was rated for 50 BMG for the troubles?

>>515421080
okay let me change the example I used about dropping a knife on my foot
I dropped a sharp knife on my COCK
The handle hit my BALLS
I deserve so much fucking money from that knife company

>>515421085
fpbp

>>515421085
spicy posture check

>>515421084
thankfully the army is not retarded and knew steel was a bad idea since the end of WW2, so no, it was all ceramic and kevlar protection.
but if we had to use steel or titanium again for god know what reason then we already have the plan to save people from shrapnel

>>515421028
>Bullshit
How are you going to be a millionaire and still buy cheap shit steel plates?

>>515421088
Not analogous. The dangerous part made contract with her.

>>515421034
>T.J. Kirk

>>515421080
oh sure but when I burn my nuts playing tarkov on my shitty laptop do I get a million bucks? nooooooo

>>515421085
instead of getting some cool face scars he got it straight in the jugular

>>515421036
Add in likely vagus nerve stimulation, high probability of CNS damage from the spine likely getting hit, on top of the massive blood loss.

>>515421043
>200yds
>Expecting porn to get you that far by itself
You gotta save up, man.

>>515421093
Sharp blade, my cock, hot liquid, her cooch, this is not an abstract analogy or hard to follow. Do you need to take a shitposting break? Is 4chan going to be liable for your mental healthcare bills?

>>515421095
how much reconstructive surgery did it take to fix your nuts?

>>515421100
five

>>515421095
You've got a hole cut out of the bottom so you can rest your nuts directly on the heat sink. That's not covered by any warranty known to God or man.

>>515421086
no anon, she got 3rd degree burns across her crotch so bad it fused her genital area shut, it wasn't some frivolous bullshit

>>515421075
>or is it the old man?
Old man was released. Police statement said he wasn't tge shooter. They haven't caught the shooter yet.

maybe he held in a sneeze like JFK

>>515421101
you may be entitled to financial compensation

>>515421106
Cool, can you write the check out to Deez?

>>515421107
A mister Deez who, anon?

>>515421058
Fucking hell

>>515421086
>Liebeck went into shock and was taken to an emergency room at a hospital. She suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[13][16] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting.[17] During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (9.1 kg), nearly 20 percent of her body weight, reducing her to 83 pounds (38 kg).[18] After the hospital stay, Liebeck needed care for three weeks, which was provided by her daughter.[19] Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for two years.
(this fails to mention the bit where it literally fused her labia together)
She also only went in trying to settle for $20k to cover ongoing medical treatment; it only went higher than that due to mcdonalds refusing and dragging it into a bigger case.

>>515421108
Ligma.

>>515421017 (OP)
>Kirk gets contacted by ballistic plate company
>"we'll hire a sharpshooter to take a shot at you while you wear our product"
>"you get to call foul and we get a great product demonstration"
>...

>>515421026
holy shit, imagine the lawsuit

Spalling would account for his ring breaking and what ever wire object that flew off his right side.

>>515421099
You're retard

>>515421112
M****dt**ds and CIAn****rs on suicide watch.

>>515421110
the knife you sharpened for me fucked me up SO BAD when I dropped it on my cock and severed it. I'm legally a eunuch now and contemplating suicide.
you have SO MUCH MORE MONEY THAN ME
I ONLY need one paycheck from you to pay for the cock stitches or they'll repossess my car
BRO I'm clearly logically and legally in the right here, why wouldn't I win a legal case against you? Better just give me that paycheck before I take it to court.

>>515421117
a jury of average, reasonable americans correctly decided to punish a shithead corporation for their shithead behavor and you get to lie and caper about it like your faggot nature demands, everyone wins

>>515421117
I don't know why you're so obsessed with defending a company's bad practices. The lady who was badly burnt wasn't the first, she was just the most severe and public of several cases.

>>515421118
>>515421119
Yes, the world is a better place when you steal from Ronald McDonald's millionaire shareholders and give it to a fucked up old lady.
What annoys me is pretending like this is how the law works and giving OP bad legal advice.

>>515421117
If you sharpened a knife so mind numbingly sharp that it cuts off my balls instantly if I drop it on my lap and this has happened multiple times before and people have told you to stop making your knives so fucking sharp and you ignored them then yes you are liable.
t. Also a lawyer

>>515421085
Millennial posture

>>515421017 (OP)
>Can a vest manufacturer be sued for damages to the neck caused by spalling?
hard to do if you are dead from spalling, real concentration of important stuff in the head and neck. Ceramic IV and kevlar is where it is at or go home

>>515421026
Christ, that's a real gusher, that's the kind of bloodflow you're more likely to see in old horror movies or in videogames, but I guess some of it has to have been based on real life injuries in the past.

Rest in piece, man. Imagine being made a martyr for such lukewarm stances and opinions, but I guess that's what the radical left wants.

>>515421123
>hard to do if you are dead from spalling,
Your estate can sue as if you were alive

>>515421121
>t. Also a lawyer
don't let it turn you into a cunt and consume your soul the legal orofessions basic ability to reply to correspondance or calls in any kind of timely manner once they get money is mindbreakingly awful and is a burden to mankind and society

>>515421117
stop digging your hole retard

>>515421086
No, she was actually pretty severely maimed and disfigured by her burns, you can find pictures of her injuries online and they're ghastly as fuck to look at.
She also only ever wanted to sue to cover for her medical expenses and then legal expenses, she wasn't looking for the award the courts gave her, that's what they had insisted on against her wishes.

>>515421125
lot of good that will do you if you are dead

>>515421117
>McDonald's didn't do anything wrong, reee!!!
Behold, the McCuck.

>>515421121
Yes, thank you, these are all real legal arguments that were debated in the case. Is that a sane temperature to brew coffee at, had it occurred before, was it necessary or preventable to serve it that way, etc. Those are the courtroom arguments in a liability case.
People who start and end at 'did you see the picture of her crotch? of course mcdonalds was liable' are the plaintiffs who of every other hot coffee lawsuit that failed. And there are a lot of other ones that failed.

>>515421124
It's pretty terrifying just how milquetost and tame your views can be, and deranged socialists (but I'm repeating myself) will want you dead.

>>515421017 (OP)
>Can a vest manufacturer be sued for damages to the neck caused by spalling?
there are pieces of armor made to protect neck, a gorget

>>515421133
there a plates that don't spall
>>515421123
>eramic IV and kevlar is where it is at or go home

>>515421134
there are other shrapnel in firefight than pieces of your own armor

>>515421132
all advocates for political violence are generally scum or retarded loudmouths. You have a vote, you can join or establish a political party but noooooooooooo there is always some bum in a demoracy that wants his retarded rants on the agenda or he'll start murdering people, It's an equal opportunity truth for both ends of the political spectrum and all situations where people have a vote and can stand for election

>>515421124
>>515421132
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

nigga everyone needs to calm down and stop being so tribal FFS

>>515421137
Why does everyone bring up this case in relation to Kirk's assassination?

>>515421135
>there are other shrapnel in firefight than pieces of your own armor
Its not your own armour thought its fast moving molten lead and bullet fragments and this remains the same
>>515421134
>>ceramic IV and kevlar is where it is at or go home
That includes upper arm, thigh, lower back, jewel plate and collars and throat protectors which as you know are part of every decent designed bit of kit, go reald up on IOTV components to get a rough idea. Random pic
ARMY ACU DIGITAL BODY ARMOR VEST THROAT PROTECTOR

>>515421138
>why does everyone bring up this example of the other side getting clapped
it's truly a mystery

>>515421137
Because some retards are claiming this only happens to them while ignoring another instance. Long story short they want to divide the political spectrum about literally everything

>>515421138
Whataboutism. The bunkertranny's favored weapon, along with gaslighting

>>515421141
Meant for>>515421138

>>515421137
IIRC, the shooter was a Walz appointee.

>>515421144
...on a non-partisan "state workforce board"

you didnt even know who this guy was until today stop playing. you just want a race war because you're fucking bored and only violent tragedy can entertain you.

>>515421138
>>515421142
dindu NUFFIN
who says horseshoe theory isn't real lol

>tranny screeching already
pace yourself son

I'm here to post about tomorrow
*soooooooooooooooooosh SPLOOSH!*

>>515421124
>Imagine being made a martyr for such lukewarm stances and opinions
dude was a professional troll. he was at that school specifically so he could get footage of himself in shouting matches with students for his youtube channel
also maybe not a coincidence he was shot in the middle of a discussion about gun violence. being a vocal supporter of no comprise on gun rights

>>515421082
That mark on his shirt is visible in the first of those images

>>515421147
Nice job outing yourself as an obvious bunkertranny

>>515421146
>you didnt even know who this guy was until today stop playing. you just want a race war because you're fucking bored and only violent tragedy can entertain you.
this, and believe me paramilitary shit is something you don;t want to live though, your fantasies have no connection to the miserable reality, political violence sucks and they kill each other in splits and infighting as much as anyone else. Vote, stand for election, join a party but don't become a fucking murderer or bore the shit out of us with your trite boog first world fantasy shit.

>>515421149
Honestly it's pretty funny that the guy who made a career laughing off school shootings died in a school shooting

>>515421149
I am going to take your post at face value and fully trust your statement.

Test

>>515421155
>ban evasion

>>515421065
Neat

>>515421153
There's nothing honest in what you've written.

>>515421152
i wonder how much of the rosy view americans often have of civil violence and its average outcomes stems from how polite and orderly the american civil war was

>>515421075
>>515421076
>>515421078
>>515421083
he's out

>>515421156
Post deleted but no ban
>>515421158
Honestly I just find it ironic, I don't really care about this guy, all I know about him is that he's got some soundbites about school shootings that have taken on a new meaning in light of current events

>>515421144
Been saying he did it since day one. Happened a few miles from where I live

>>515421159
The US civl war was a bloody mess and extremly hard on civilians. That has no connection to today. Look at us as soon as the WW2 vetereans start getting dementia we are right back at the same pointless shit again. The lessons of war only last one generation.
Politcial violence ina democracy is pointless. You want to see your kids get maimed as a punishment because the local scumbags decided incorrectly they were informants or pissed off the wrong guy? You want to see your relatives houses burned by accident because mistake, you want a death squad showing up at your house at 7AM because they got the address wrong? You want to join one of the assorted gangs of psychos that inevitably emerge and watch them executing people until they decide you and a few others disgree on the colour of icecream and the psycho in chief (and psychos bubble up aplenty in that enviroment) decidied its best for the movement you get shot in the back of the head? Enjoy that shit all you want then retards,

>>515421144
he was appointed by the prior governor, walz just reapproved his place on the commission. Dude's on film ranting about trannies or whatever to a congregation in africa.

Just another schizo

>>515421163
It just makes me want nigs and trannies gone even more to be completely frank with you famalamadingdong

>>515421166
Yes, that is the point. And it will end with sending all the "goy cattle" as they call us into FEMA camps and woodchippers.

FUCK JANNIES

>>515421163
>>515421167
I stand by these posts.

>>515421031
>that was a good shot.
it was a miss because aiming for the neck is a mistake.

>>515421017 (OP)
I think it nicked the edge of the plate, probably a curved ceramic. Just a hard luck shot.

>>515421026

if he was hit in the chest wouldn't his shirt have ripped or have a hole in it ?

>>515422798
Maybe he was supposed to survive.

>>515421017 (OP)
Add this one to the list.

Was this on /k/? Sensitive little board.

>>515422798
>>515424659
forgot pic

>>515424867
Yes, the jannies there are faggots, and the posters are even worse.

>>515424867
/K/ got taken over by nafo troons long ago. All the jannies were always my little pony faggots. They also have to have a general for everything because the discussions just repeat, similar to how reddit users act.