Thread 515482173

Why do leftists equate words with physical violence? Where did this idea even come from? My ex gf told me she believes in this too. Shes 26 and a university student. I am 39. We had an argument about it.

>>515482173 (OP)
you never had a gf
why u lie?

ick

My mom thinks words are violence too.

If you scream at someone it's assault.
I didn't understand it either until I was 31 and she explained dad never hit her, after using "I was abused and beaten" as justification to abuse me, and then fuck me up mentally, while the family looked on and turned a blind eye.


"It's okay to hurt people that are weaker than me". Is what they really mean, the second you are bigger than them or they consider you a threat the abuse ends and it's "or I'll call the cops"

>>515482282
but i did have quite a few
>>515484012
>I didn't understand it either until I was 31 and she explained dad never hit her, after using "I was abused and beaten" as justification to abuse me, and then fuck me up mentally, while the family looked on and turned a blind eye.
i dont understand this part. what happened?

>>515482173 (OP)
what if you use words to convince others to commit physical violence for you?

>>515484161
Yeah their reasoning is basically that influencers and shit post statistics and say who are to blame, then that makes other people pick up guns and do something, so it's hate speech. Against minorities, leaders, ngos, commies etc

Of course when they do it like screaming death to "capitalists" (often in practice meaning white people who make medium wage or slightly above lol), racists (whites), polluters (again, whites), it's a different thing and not hate speech because whites deserve it.

>>515484795
>>Of course when they do it like screaming death to "capitalists" (
not death, putting them in a gulag for the rest of their lives is enough

>>515482173 (OP)
>We had an argument about it.
so she bludgeoned you with her words?
not very nice of her

>>515482173 (OP)
To them, being offended is violence, so called "emotional violence" or "speech violence".
But ACTUAL physical violence is perfectly ok to them, they see nothing wrong with it, murder or theft is GOOD to them, but speaking and expressing is evil and violent to them.

>>515484012
>When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom, because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom, because that is according to my principles
It is the creed of the low IQ subhuman. Peoples that are 100 IQ and above are a different species to the savages round the world. Jews believe this too which is how you know they aren’t superior they are just super gypsies who have played an insane multigenerational plan which is about to go very badly for them

>>515484969
Ye in practice they might get away with just giving their shit away tho unlike nazis the commies were not going to let them leave country and regroup elsewhere..

>>515484161
That would be conspiracy to assault, if you don't use words to convince others to attack smoeone then it cannot be violence, bastard socialist.

>>515482173 (OP)
>“Why has he not been bailed out?” Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. “By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out,"
- Charlie Kirk, on his views on political violence directed at the family of a politician he doesn't like, 2022

>>515482173 (OP)
Women and low-T men are weak-willed. God did not make them to handle power or political discourse. It's really that simple.

>>515485238
It depends on the context and the target of the speech / physical assault. But it's definitely peak psychopathy, and it works. Scream your opponents are genocidal maniacs if they speak about the things you do like being pro mass immigration etc, but lose zero milliseconds of sleep when there are mass rape gangs with thousand kids as victims.

These people tell you they are more empathetic than anyone else but if someone brings up Rotherdam or any white victim into discussion, these people claim that's not real empathy but that's just right wing monster trying to win you over.

Simple.

It’s called cognitive dissonance. Basically it’s when your identity is tied to a group in an unhealthy way, very often due to a lack of healthy father figure growing up.

You see it very much in boys and girls who grew up without a father. They start to see the establishment as a replacement of their dad subconsciously (the rules being enforced, boundaries, offering protection, financial assistance etc).

Therefore, when they hear someone criticize the establishment, they subconsciously process it as someone criticizing their father, and they get emotional about it.

>>515482173 (OP)
If you know all this information but have no one in custody ?
Are you fucking kidding me

>>515486942
what

>>515482173 (OP)
They want to hurt others indiscriminately and look for any excuse

Because you can justify anything when you work backwards from "nothing's ever my fault" and they get a high like you can't imagine from being terrible people but getting away with it.
This is why people don't deserve "freedom."

>>515485543
That was his gay lover remember that?

>>515485543
That was a rent boy you stupid Nigger. The wanted him out so he could talk about it.

>>515485953
True and based

>>515484158
It's okay to hurt people that are smaller or weaker than you.
It's okay to abuse people if you can come up with a *reason*


An abusive parent and a leftist think the exact same way, if someone disagrees with you and is weaker, react with violence and make them submit, if they are strong, demand concessions and that violence is never okay in any way shape or form.


I, for years have been telling anons to "read rules for radicals" and you don't, it's a book that details their methods and mentality, it's okay for them to hurt you because your a member of an assigned group.

The term is scapegoating.
In today's society you see calls for violence against anyone who wears a red hat because of some man with a funny moustache from the 40s, it's just equating anyone that disagrees with them to being literally Hitler.


"We are not arguing with these people" - Anon Goeth

>>515485350
The blackest pill of all is that Klaus Schwab is right about useless eaters.

Imagine a world of only +100 high trust individuals..., oh no we can't have that because those people are needed to hear the burden of upholding the pillars of civilization, so it's better we all died out and suffered equally than for some to have the product of their labor without having to have it redistributed to people who won't work.


The time for violence is soon, but it's important that we aren't seen as the ones who started the fire, let the left overplay their hand.
But you guys need to be existing outside of the system and divesting from it without some serious concessions.
Above all, oust the boomers from power.
I think we may soon live in weeks where centuries happen.

>>515482173 (OP)
If someone with the exact same political beliefs as Charlie Kirk but none of the political power was shot, I would be sad

Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, ran a 100 million dollar (annual revenue) media empire that was directly donated to by Republicans in power to propagandize their viewpoints and legitimize their political acts that are directly violent towards poor Americans
He is an employee and an extension of a political system that has disregarded the checks and balances of our political system and actively harmed hundreds of millions of citizens (and some immigrants but that's actually based) by limiting their freedom of speech, removing their right to habeas corpus, slashing any government aid they can find, and facilitating the transfer of wealth to themselves and their rich business friends
He also loved israel

He deserved it

The left is serious about politics and the right is not. You pretend you have honor but the truth is nonviolence is only a virtue if you are capable of violence. You'd never hit someone for disrespecting you because you are weak not because you are holding back.

>>515485953
based well said

Foucault et al.

>>515485953
Yes, to an extent.
Trauma based conditioning where expulsion from the herd means death, or reduced standards of living and social ostracism.
Some people, when threatened or told do x or y happens, will instantly do y, and never offer any resistance because of fear based conditioning.
So, a childhood of being screamed at and beaten and not having a father to show you how to do simple tasks of problem solve, versus getting yelled at and called stupid, a large part of our current generations issues may be that they have been terrorized into now being capable of doing things, or reacting in a way that makes sense.
Trauma is real, terrorism of the mind.


A single mother would withhold resources or make them scarce and only offer them based on compliance. This is called classical conditioning.

It's when they force you into eating things (they know) you hate when your hungry that you see their trust colors.

>>515491807
Terrorism works.

Using fear to control people absolutely is the most effective way.
The constant and reinforced threat of "or else" and being able to hold threats of joblessness or homelessness in an economically recessed area is real, throw in mortgage payments and normie tier credit card debt and you can enslave and threaten people into submission without firing a shot.
Have debtors jail's and the constant threat of rape to keep people in line, then laugh and say it's good for them.

Using power and fear to control people absolutely works, every time you go through airport security just remember it's because of a few retards with box cutters in a high trust society exploited that trust.
How, do you live among people who actively want too, and are trying to kill, enslave and hold power over you, while telling you "violence is never okay"
While threatening you constantly and endlessly into submission and doing what your told.


You fucking kill them.

>>515492073
Hmm, I disagree.

It's the threat of being involved in the justice system that I'm worried about, It leads, in my case to severely lowered standards of living and alot of wasted money and time off, on-top of ensuring I won't ever make more than 25/hr.
I know this, and am well aware of the consequences of "or else"

If someone is abusing you, or holding power over you, and you don't have the resources to leave, or a support network, there is no help for you.

Your choice is sit there and get hit in the face,

Or defend yourself, risk charges and being involved with the justice system and having to dedicate time and resources navigating that, and these leftists, abusers what have you know this, and gleefully threaten you with it.

You can choose to sit there and take repeated blows to the face, or you can risk jail, and being locked up in a room with violent people who want to abuse you, and the threat of "the institution charges you" to threaten you into compliance.


Two days ago I pointed out how normies were talking about targeting judges.
You can kill cops and shoot up defenseless kids all day, and nothing will ever change except the jackboots coming down, and less freedumbs, but whatever,
Only the left has the balls for political violence, the right are the people who chant "violence is never okay"

Enjoy having your throats cut, and the jackboot.

>>515488433
>they get a high like you can't imagine from being terrible people but getting away with it.


I'm glad other anons see this too.
I grew up under their whip hand. I know what it's like to be abused and have the constant threat of "or else" used.

But all jokes aside the only solution for "those people" is to kill them, the damage they do long term far outweighs whatever value their lives have,

But the second you talk about that, even when everyone agrees your doing a hecking crime and now it's time to go to jail and get raped so you don't ever think about saying or doing those things or react with violence to people who abuse you, and those good ol' boys who show up to put you in the place where you get raped and abused are just doing their job, so you can't blame them.

You have to accept the blame for any and all actions, while others are allowed second chances, you must bear all burdens, when someone is frustrated and smacks you upside the head, turn the other cheek and show them "how strong you are"


They are a disease and must be cleansed with fire, again
"We are not arguing with these people" - Amon Goeth.

>>515493878
You basically agree with me but have a long drawn out explanation to why you aren't willing to sacrifice comfort and thats why exactly the point. Heres an example, you wont call a nigger a nigger because he is willing to sacrifice comfort to shut you up. The threat is real so you police your own actions. Leftists arent afraid of conservatives because they aren't silling to give up anything for anything.

>>515482173 (OP)
It's an pretext to justify violence against a person who says something they dislike.

>>515494878
We all have our jobs to do.

"we" don't need to call for violence because it is an eventuality, it will and is going to happen, be in a position to help your tribe, group, frens, or chose to don the skull mask and shed blood.

I don't care, but remember:

The glowies want you to grab the AR15, innocent kids now.

They do not, under any circumstances want you having a life worth living or shepparding people to a life outside the system where they can't tax you, or benefit from your surplus labor,
I'm glad you can understand, I can't decide if I'm sleep deprived or speaking like gravemind, I know some people don't understand what I say, or pretend not too, or lack the intellectual capacity, but who know, perhaps I am dumb.

>>515482173 (OP)
>My ex gf told me she believes in this too.
Womyn glorify weakness and victimhood the way men glorify strength and heroism.

>>515494878
>have a long drawn out explanation to why you aren't willing to sacrifice comfort


Kek. Yes. The glowies pointed this out to me, actually.
Life radicalized me, if you don't have nice things and can't climb the ladder you grab a shovel and don the skull mask and look forward to the day you can shed blood.


We have an entire generation of people who are disenfranchised, see themselves being replaced and the jackboots of the system kicking them in the face every day, we are going to see decentralized assassinations of people on the right because the left has been conditioned and told for since Obama white people bad, it's okay to hurt people because of (social justice)

I see how hard their trying to go for the race war angle now, and i laugh. The second normies think about targeting judges or people in positions of power some dude gets shot in the neck and the whole conversation changes back to the topic of political violence, instead of targeting the hand on the levers of power.


Hilarious, I do agree with you, I just don't see the point in seigeposting (calling for violence) when it's a forgone conclusion, go for a jog or practice marksman, much better use of your time. Go climb a mountain.

>>515495959
We have a copypasta here about women and weak people filtering things through a "will people think this is okay" filter, and explaining how based autists and Chad's don't have the same thing.
It's a great meme, a personal favorite.

Back to the topic of single motherhood.

I had the absolute fucking shit beaten out of me for standing up to, and using violence against other kids who were beating me, to the point I stopped defending myself because the beatings my mom gave were worse.

"We are not arguing with these people" is literally the only solution to them.

>>515491807
You're going to die, communist.

>>515482173 (OP)
cuz they have manufactured a fantasy they live in, and using truth on them is a direct threat to their reality
Its like someone breaking into ur kicthen and stealing ur chicken tendiess

>>515482173 (OP)
while at the same time being actively involved in hate-speech themselves.

the real question is why anyone takes someone's self-contradictory, illogical babble seriously, trying to rationalize it, argue with it, or figure it out as if it were some kind of puzzle, when it's clear that they suffer from some developmental problem.

>>515498424
It's okay to promote hate against assigned groups, or people weaker than you.


Read rules for radicals.

But, Jin-Roh is the only way to deal with those people, so do with that what you will.

>>515482173 (OP)
It's peak butthurt because they can't argue for shit. If somebody got in your face with a good point and all you could do was stand there and helplessly take it, you'd feel as though someone had committed violence against you. I mean, it's not like you're going to go back and re-examine your own shitty opinions or something.

>>515499358
it's disgusting to me that i can even access that mindset. any resilience you might gain studying it is completely overshadowed by the demoralization

>>515500892
I grew up under it.
Leftists and child abusers have alot in common.

In their minds, it's okay to harm people who are weaker than them, but the second their a challenge to them, now violence is never okay.

Rules for radicals has an entire chapter dedicated to this exact ideal, and there is a reason I've came to the conclusion there's only one way to deal with people like that.

Leftists want you to hurt them, they need to be victims or they lash out against everything until people rightfully bring the jackboot down, ask yourself how you live with someone who is actively threatening you, attacking you, labeling you the problem and then saying "it's okay to hurt you because X"
Look at the world we live in now, and their behaviour and proclamations against "us" and you too will come to the same conclusions I have.

They're going to get their "Us vs them" they've always wanted.