Thread 515532273

AR15 funko gun enthusiasts btfo eternally.

FUCKING AWPER FAG

TERRORISTS WILL NOT WIN

>>515532273 (OP)
Right Wingers are nothing but gun fetishists and larpers.

bolt action rifles are god's chosen guns

>>515532273 (OP)
He chose the right tool for the job. AR-15s are not meant for sniping. You could do it with one, but it's not the best tool for the job.

Remington 700?

>>515532273 (OP)
Boom, neckshot.

>>515534302
I'll be real with you, most bolt guns look the same to me. I don't have Mauser-tism.

>>515534302
My first thought was a savage...also it looks like a .308 not a 30-06
(Yes i know there similar)

>>515534646
i got a savage axis chambered in .270, but mine is camo.

>>515534970
I kinda want one of the Axis II's in 6.5

>>515532273 (OP)
Tranpa's old deer rifle.

>>515534302
Strait drop bolt handle leads me to think Mauser or Winchester 70, but would need better pick to be sure as bolt handle alone is not conclusive.

>>515534646
Short action Mauser. That rifle is not a .30-06.

Why are bolt action rifles the gun of choice for these guys? I don't know shit about guns

>>515536025
you don't need 30 shots if you're not a spastic mutt larper. also they're generally larger caliber with a longer barrel, which means more energy delivered to your target with greater accuracy.

>>515535568
>short action
Yes thats what i was implying
A 30-06 is quite a long cartridge...tho it is hard to tell with this one crappy photo

AR CHUD SHOOTERS SHOULD SHOOT THEMSELVES WRITE THAT IN THE MANIFESTO YOU LOSERS

>>515532273 (OP)
bolt action must be banned they can be fired way to quickly

>>515536701
what was heard in the video is not a 30-06 rifle getting fired

>>515537744
Recorded acoustics from an open air area surrounded by several buildings, you have no way of knowing what you claim.

my suspect has the same gun on left

>>515532273 (OP)
Whoever shot it must be a manlet because that scope is installed way too far back in both the scope rings and the mount to the receiver. They were compensating for the length of pull since their shortass arms couldn't shoulder the rifle and see through the scope.

>>515536025
For the same dollar value, a modern bolt gun will always be more accurate than a semi-auto.
If you pay a LOT of money, you can get an AR-10 that shoots 3/4" groups, but dirt cheap bolt guns can do that now.

>>515537987
>its a ruger 10/22
Fuck off noguns.

Anyone else notice how goofy the scope rings are set up?

>>515538142
Not as bad as that guy with an SKS who tried to off Trump.

>>515532273 (OP)
sexy sexy rifle

>>515534302
It is 1000% a Remington 700.
It's a good gun. Everyone who is into guns knows what it is. It's a choice sharpshooter weapon by literally every law enforcement agency in the united states. Also popular for hunting and sport shooting. It's a gun person's gun. Not some tacticool mall ninja bullshit. Which also tells me that the neck shot was deliberate. Nobody who shoots a fucking Remington 700 forgets to adjust their elevation.

>>515538142
>nooooo that's not the optimal placement as described by funko guntuber!!!!
who cares. it worked. it was effective. a single shot at 200 yards.

>>515534302
not far from it since most bolt guns are basically the same
just a firing group and a barrel

>>515537967
i do, because i own a m18 mauser myself

>>515536025
don't listen to these retards
>>515536668
>>515538046
Bolties conserve chamber pressure by not using the gas to cycle the action and load another round. it all goes down the barrel and there's no movement to jerk the gun around when the next round is loaded.

>>515538394
Yep, neck shot was the safest, he didn't want any collateral. Shooting the head could've made the projectile deviate. Professional.

>>515538394
It's a good design, but the Remington made ones really fell off in quality for a long time. If you want one, either buy one from when they were good or buy from entirely 3rd party companies.
It's basically an open source bolt gun at this point.

>>515538094
>Fins
>noguns
try again

>>515538768
The barrels being fully free-floated makes a huge difference.

>>515538860
>fins
>can't tell the difference between a rimfire rifle and bolt action rifle chambered in a much larger caliber
Sad.

>>515538768
go study the difference in bullet velocity at range of an ar15 vs bolt action rifle with a comparable barrel size. the energy spent cycling the action is minuscule. the advantage is accuracy.

>>515534302
Almost looks like a Leupold scope too, can't be sure. Also can't ID the rings.

>>515538780
Yeah I've heard with other guns too, anything post Remington/Marlin merger from either brand is questionable as far as production QC goes. I bought a cheapo Marlin bolt action .22 though manufactured post-merge and no issues . Luck of the draw maybe.

>>515538394
>Nobody who shoots a fucking Remington 700 forgets to adjust their elevation
Are you goofy? It's perfectly plausible, and the Cringeington is one of the most basic bitch entry level full size hunting rifle you can buy, you're not an expert marksman because you own one.
>Zero at 100 years cuck range
>Don't adjust for 200 because you're a retard who bought the cheapest used durrgun w/ chinese optics you could find and you're scared of missing
>get the pre murder jitters
>hit high and to the right on a heart shot

>>515538780
It's based on the Win 70 action which is itself based on the Mauser Gewehr 98

>>515539245
You can still find decent ones but the QC was the first to be cut, as it always goes with these buyouts (Taurus, Kimber, now Sig)

>>515532273 (OP)

So, gun laws would not have helped anyways, so leftist meme related to this fails. They always try to push the gun laws to ban "assault weapons". Hunting weapons are outside of those gun restrictions they want to push.

>>515539398
Pretty sure they were referring to shooting from a elevated position (aka the roof) which affects bullet drop if you zeroed at a flat range.

>>515534302
That what it looks like.

>>515539218
Nope.
I think the thing is a cobbled together piece of shit. Maybe the barrel and action are salvaged but I don't know of a gun with a rear sight thumb wheel like this made in the last 75 years.

>>515538394
God. Fucking Canadians need to stop speaking of which they do not know. It's been proven the bullet spalled off Kirks chest plate and into his neck. It was an attempted heart shot.

The flood of 1PBTID crashing out every time I suggest firearm choice points to law enforcement background no matter where I post it on the internet makes me think I might be onto something.
The fact that the posters are incapable of fathoming how bad those optics are leads me to another conclusion.

>>515534646
You're a retarded WW2 larper if you thought it was 30-06

>>515539398
It's also very likely the shot was dropped a bit due to shooter error, and just happened to hit the best missed shot of all time

>>515536025
Bolt action does one thing well, and cheap, but it's not fast. Semiautomatic is fast, and can be good, but isn't cheap. Most retards that try assassination pick a fast and cheap semiautomatic but they're not good and they can't hit the target.

>>515539757
30-06 is pretty common for hunting deer. the ammo is stocked basically everywhere.

>>515537744
Some Green Beret claimed he could tell it aas 5.56 and an AR from the sound and wound.

>>515539709
I think I remember it. It is an older starter gun. It was probably inherited then sold.

>>515539974
.308 is even more common

>>515539742
>It was an attempted heart shot.
The funny thing it probably was but due to the elevation difference the bullet hit higher than where it was aimed. Aimed for the heart/chest and got the neck instead.

>>515532273 (OP)
So can't they track the serial number?? Whats so fucking difficult??

Everyone of you saying it's an R700 are completely retarded. The stock and barrel profile are completely wrong. This looks like a Mauser m18. An older model.

>>515539742
*cricket noises*

>>515540308
shut up you fucking shill

>>515533154
Do we have time for moist nugget wank? In 2025?

>>515540256
The can track the serial, but it will only go back as far as it was tracked. If it was sold in a private sale, citizen to citizen, it's unlikely that the person who sold it would keep track of who they sold it to, and if that person who bought it goes on to sell it again... It's basically untraceable.

>>515540414
Fuck you and eat my ass leaf. Sorry youre retarded and can't identify a gun.

>>515533016
you are an indian tranny
>>515532273 (OP)
>>515533154
probably just cheaper, bolts are yuro tranny guns

>>515532273 (OP)
Looks like a scary black rifle to me... a scary black rifle that shoots scary black rifle bullets no less. Ban it.

>>515533366
most centerfire shooting matches in the US are done with ARs

>>515539742
The spalling theory has less water in it than the JFK Magic Bullet. Where is the impact on his chest, then? He's wearing a clean, white shirt- it would have an obvious hole twice as big as the one in his neck.

>>515539709
Front scope mount has me scratching my head too. Probably a composite stock tossed onto an old Mauser.

>>515540165
I would say so too. An antique hand me down. The stock has been hand carved and not very well. Good enough for the young one to carry. No big loss if/when he drops it.

>>515540706
>most centerfire shooting matches in the US are done with ARs
???????????

>>515540745
Shooter was a manlet using a scope with poor eye relief. Nothing head scratching about it.

>>515539245
Yeah, it's just a lottery.
I feel bad for the Sig bros right now. I was actually considered a P320 during the handgun panic buy. Glad I didn't.

>>515532837
real men use scout

>>515536025
cheap, might be something they already have because someone hunted. might be somewhat lighter
>>515538046
>>515538768
off the shelf ARs are more accurate than basically any bolt action made before 2000

>>515532273 (OP)
>>515539709
why it in a box tho
that sus

>>515540200
That's like an 8 inch miss, which would be an even wilder one than a low miss on a headshot attempt. It's way more likely to hit low due to bad trigger manipluation than to miss high, ask anyone who's ever shot a rifle at 100 yards.

>>515538394
Doesn’t look like a Remington 700 style safety and look like a Mauser bolt.
>>515540308
Many noguns suddenly firearm experts.

>>515539475
Yeah, that's not saying much. 99% of bolt guns on the market are just Mauser clones and it has been that way for like 200 years. There are very few exceptions.

>>515540825
go look up high power. everyone uses ARs for high power

>>515540955
>off the shelf ARs are more accurate than basically any bolt action made before 2000
a $400 savage axis will shot <1 MOA.
a $600-800 AR15 (M&P etc.) will be lucky to do 1.5 MOA.

>>515540991
Firing from a elevated position raises the point of impact. There was a considered difference in height since the deceased was in the lowest part of the field and the shooter was on the highest part of the roof.

>>515540200
Far more likely for any errant shot is the shooter moved when pulling the trigger, or jerked the trigger. No reason to think it was a poorly aimed or executed shot either, if it was an old rifle at best 2 moa, quite possibly 4 moa, with store bought ammo capable of 2 or 3 moa that may not be the same ammo used when sighting in the rifle. An 8-10 inch grouping at 200 yards very well might be peak performance for the rifle and ammo.

>>515532273 (OP)
It may have been an AR-15, whatever it was didn't penetrate his vest and bounced off.

>>515540955
Dude, I've seen a guy nail a 1000k yard target with a Savage Axis in 6.5 with the fucking scope that came on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7UYXXuX4l0

It's REALLY hard to beat the quality/price of a bolt gun. That's why they're still around.

>>515539894
>Bolt action does one thing well, and cheap, but it's not fast. Semiautomatic is fast, and can be good, but isn't cheap
non-gucci AR's are cheap as shit, as cheap as bolt gun if not cheaper than many

>>515539742
Proven? I don't think so, the entry on the neck looks way too clean for a deflection.

>>515541322
Jerking the trigger on a rifle would induce much more windage (aka left/right) deviation than elevation (up/down).

>>515538394
at 200 yards an AR has zero drop. the max and min of the parabola from 50 to 200 yards is like a 1.5-2 inch difference, retard
>>515541226
>>515541476
when did savage start making the axis, retardo? modern ARs are more accurate than pre 2000s bolt guns

>>515541540
The bottom of the barrel for precision AR-10's is like 1500 bucks (PSA Sabre).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T26D7R38xQk

>>515541009
Every time. The moment a gun crime happens suddenly everyone is a gunsmith former navy seal with 7000 confirmed kills with a spoon.
>hurr durr it's a Remington 700 because that's the only bolt action I know

>be shooter
>one tap someone
>say fuck it I'm leaving with him gun
>no one see you because you're a ninja
>get in a wood nerby
>change your mind and drop the gun
>keep your 007 plan going and evade the FBI the DOD the police
>every door camera
>only pictures are grainy shit
>shooter was never pictured with the gun
me think you're all fucking retarded

>>515541673
>when did savage start making the axis
noguns euro VPN larptard.

>>515538768
>don’t listen to these retards but listen to me, a retard

>>515541795
>AR-10's
I'm talking about the Assualt Rifle 15, not the 10

>>515541237
You are talking about a total of 4 inches of drop at 200 yards (30-06), so no elevation effect will ever deviate the shot from more than that. Even at a steep angle it wouldn’t change your aim point to account for more than 40-50 yards, so we are looking at a change of an inch or less in point of impact. It isn’t until you get farther in distance and trajectories are changing by feet rather inches when elevation adjustments have big impacts.

>>515539709
Is this the actual rifle? What's of interest is what it's chambered in.

Is that a Ruger?

>>515532273 (OP)
They will have no trace on the gun so all they have is the photos of the guy to go by
They found luigi super quick if they don't find this guy I call MALARKY

>>515541617
And?

>>515540955
>A basic bitch browning A bolt from 1985 will blow away just
A poverty shit arms "off the shelf" AR or any similar M4 style 16in shit stick that are the majority of commercial ARs will 100% not outshoot well-cared for hunting rifles of yesteryear. The average 80s A-bolt can shoot 1/2 MOA

>>515537987
mate that's not the same rifle.

>>515540200
>>515541322
>>515541617
it could be as simple as he had a weird zero. like with an AR aiming at the upper chest with a 300 meter zero at 200 yards will shoot pretty fucking high. it's why no one uses it, even though it was technically the army standard. it's like a 10 inch max/min difference or something retarded. also he could have just shot while at the wrong part of his breath cycle or fucked up the shot
>>515541929
I know they currently make them you no gunz dickless retard. again, ARs are more accurate than pre 2000s bolt guns. you didn't disprove my point. I shoot high power with an AR

>>515541796
Yes FR and no cap my anon. What I want to know is what the gun was chambered in. The fact it bounced off the plate in his vest would suggest it might not be a full power rifle cartridge but also I'm not a vests expert and IDK if there are vests that can stop such rounds you could have fairly unobtrusively under a T-shirt like Kirks.

>>515532273 (OP)
If that video yesterday didn't prove guns are evil then idk what will. If thr government and everyone deletes guns from existence then we can prosper until then demons will win.

>>515542375
no they can't you fucking retard. 1970s and 80s hunting rifles are like 4 moa.

>>515540974
Evidence box...

>>515542076
It's a rifle

>>515542060
That is the gun apparently. I can't be sure what caliber but I suppose a 303 (or there about).

>>515541237
Angle/Degree to Cosine Multiplier
Degree of angle - Multiplier of Measured Yards

5 - .99 or 99%
10 - .98 or 98%
15 - .96 or 96%
20 - .94 or 94%
25 - .91 or 91%
30 - .87 or 87%
35 - .82 or 82%
40 - .77 or 77%
45 - .70 or 70%
50 - .64 or 64%
55 - .57 or 57%
60 - .50 or 50%
65 - .42 or 42%
70 - .34 or 34%
75 - .26 or 26%
80 - .17 or 17%
85 - .09 or 9%
90 - .00 or 0%

So a 30 degree inclination will affect the distance, and make a 200 yard shot a 174 yard shot. The bullet drop between 200 and 100 yards is 3.6" and 1.1" respectively for a 150gr FMJ .308 round, so the inclination of the shooter, unless they were at a 50 or 60 degree inclination (use pythagorean theorum, that'd mean he'd be elevated like 100 yards above) the drop would only be affected by about an inch.

It's way more likely that the shooter was aiming for the head, and with the adrenaline/nerves, just dropped their shot a few inches.

https://www.federalpremium.com/ballistics-calculator
https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/hitting-a-high-or-low-angle-shot/83768

>>515539709
>cobbled together piece of shit
Wouldn't that point to it being a "ghost gun"

>>515542481
anon you don't shoot anything.
>at 200 yards an AR has zero drop. the max and min of the parabola from 50 to 200 yards is like a 1.5-2 inch difference, retard
bullet drop isn't a function of action. it's independent of action. rather, it's a function of bullet velocity and the ballistics of the bullet itself. ACCURACY is a function of action, which is why bolt action rifles consistently outrank semi-autos in accuracy.

>>515534646
where similar?

>>515539709
It's an 8mm WWII Mauser in a polymer stock.
>FFS

>>515542481
Military standards based off of minute of torso. 4 moa perfectly acceptable for hitting a 20 inch target out to 300 yards at whatever hit rate they deemed acceptable.

>>515540090
My dad works at Remington and says it was .30-06

>>515542736
It's about the 5.56mm round. It's garbage beyond 300-400m

>>515542733
No what the fuck? Ghost guns are homemade or hand made guns like 3d printed pistols. Alternatively you can buy cheap $200 pistols made of scrap metal from the orient. They're made in the bush by hand by Asian families to look just like the actual model they just don't have serials or they're bunk serials.

>>515542568
Nigger my 100 year old Mosin is 1.5, with ammo made by drunk Poles during the height of the cold war.

>>515542695
Quality post.
When you are out hundreds of yards with a few feet of bullet drop a .8 modifier to range adjustment is impactful, not so much at 200.

>>515542736
you are a no gunz. an AR will mog the shit out of any bolt action made before 2000. and I was talking about the bullet drop on 5.56, retard.
>>515542885
that's my point. old bolt guns were like 5 or 6 moa when new

>>515542617
>303
Oi m8. They make bolt actions in all sorts of calibers, not just full size ones. Also Charlie Kirk looked like he may have had a pretty substantial vest judging by the outline of it, so maybe.

>>515542568
tacticool boogaloo zoom zoom?
poorfag?
both?
My cheapo 7mm08 A bolt gets 1/2MOA easy with custom loads, people with nicer rifles can do a lot better. I've seen Mauser game rifles hit 1/4. You're just ignorant.

G0ys0

>>515539218
scopes dont come with rings they are bought separately dipshit

>>515542736
But good point about the bolt action being a more precise weapon, also very true.

>>515542862
Maybe a CZ I guess that's a blurry ass Mauser style mech safety

>>515543256
>an AR will mog the shit out of any bolt action made before 2000
Absolutely not lol.

>>515543076
most nuggets are like 7 to 10 moa, you retard
>>515542989
yeah, because most people can't hit beyond 300 yards with irons anyway so why carry bigger rounds in vietnam when the soldiers never hit point targets that far in the first place?

>>515538013
the scope is mounted for maximum chick lean

>>515542525
>The fact it bounced off the plate in his vest
show me one (1) fucking piece of evidence he was wearing a plate!

>>515543058
So something cobbled together from 75 year old parts would be completely traceable. Got it. Thanks for the insight

>>515537987
i saw him at a pharmacy once irl in eastern oregon

>>515543293
and when was it made you fucking retard? modern barrels are just way better than old shit
>>515543451
>t. no gunz
WWII era bolt guns are like 5 to 7 moa

>>515543256
Ya, was agreeing with you. So far as modern vs. old, in general I agree, but I also have Model 98 7mm mauser that shoots 1 moa.

>>515542695
Naw, bro
He intentionally hit the neck for the blood hose effect
The shooter and Ukrainian stabber are the SAME GUY
TWO REALITIES BLED INTO ONE ANOTHER
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LARGE HADRON COLLIDER!!!

>>515543513
Most, but not an ex-dragoon made in 1920, made with much better tolerances than ones made in the 40's at the height of the war, especially considering it was mothballed and re-armed into a 91/30 in the 50s, and was never left to marinate in soviet and nazi blood and mud in a trench.

>>515543181
You're stupid

>>515543513
>because most people can't hit beyond 300 yards with irons
retard. it's incredibly easy to hit your target at 300 with ironsights. Do you even shoot? rifles are very accurate even beyond 300 yards.

>>515543667
That's a gun, bro

>>515543443
I recognize that action anywhere...
>Love me Mauser

>>515543524
The stock was (looking recently) carved away at the bottom for small lady hands.

>>515543599
You can see it all in slow mo and freeze frame. Clear as day. Literally goes through his shirt, bounced up and pulls the shirt with it.

>>515543877
soviet guns are fucking trash, most nuggets are like 7 to 10 moa
>>515543984
>t. fucking no gunz
you do realize every army did a study after WWII and found that basically there were zero hits on individual targets using rifles out past 300 yards? you are shooting at targets the size of a car that aren't moving and then are bragging about it. hell there are army memos where they point out the hit rate beyond 300 yards is ass because a person looks pretty small that far away

>>515544079
>doesn't show proof
except it didn't. you can clearly see the projectile hitting slightly below his right ear and exiting through the left side of his neck.

>>515544079
With the way he was seated, the only way a bullet is bouncing up into his neck, fully intact to make one clean hole, is if the shot came from his dick. You retards should have paid more attention in physics class.

>>515543883
It’s math. Go yell at math.
200 yards times .8 is 160 yards. Drop at 160 yards of 1.5 inch vs. 200 yards of 1.9 inch for a difference of .4
700 yards times .8 is 560 yards. Drop at 560 of 40 inches vs 700 yard drop of 80 inches, 40 inch difference.
Made up numbers, but reasonable, to convey that the farther your target gets the greater the effect of shoot angle gets.

>>515537987
Not even similar gun, completely different type of action and scope mounts are a different color.

>>515532273 (OP)
hmm dont see any trans or anti nazi writing... hmm

>>515543599
Vest strap

>>515544248
I get my info from the range where me and my pals are shooting shit and foot wide paper targets, not some fucking retarded WW2 era army manual.

>>515532273 (OP)
It's funny. If you pointed a flintlock pistol at someone, I've got no doubt they would not even perceive a threat. People think only scary black guns are dangerous.

They forget that people actually were shot by, and killed by, and quite effectively and handily, by Brown Besses and other non modern firearms.

It's the same mindset that isn't scared of a knife. Hello?

The irony is just the past couple days has illustrated two points.
One. A knife is very scary. You can be scrolling tiktok and a minute later be dead with your blood all over a subway car.
Two. You can be killed by weapons that have not ever been considered for bans. (Why do you need 30rds?) That's just it. You don't. You need one. A guy with a single shot break open shottie can kill you, and your liberal magazine restriction did not protect you from that bullets velocity.

The entire arms and gun control narrative has been shattered the last couple days . Nothing short of total ban and confiscation can stop people from being shot.

And before you get any ideas...a total ban and confiscation would mean war and the death of millions.

Gun control died yesterday. Best they will get are red flag laws. But even those fail.

>>515543877
>>515544248

Nice, I have a 1919 Nagant full dragoon with the hex receiver.

Purchased for $120 in 2008, one of the most accurate and fun rifles I have.

>Love me nuggets

>>515541673
actually at all ranges a bullet drops, it starts dropping as soon as it leaves the barrel, I think you mean in relation to the line of sight which the sights point to. Thats different.

>>515544736
isn't that a necklace

>>515544248
Believe what you want, there's plenty of nuggets out there capable of <2MOA. Especially ones made for the sniper variant, they were hand crafted with the best barrels. Besides the rarity, that's another big reason the PU Mosins go for so damn much. Plus, with handloading you can build your own ammo to be as accurate as you can get out of the rifle. My garbage as Wish.com Dragunov (Romanian AK that takes 54r) went from 5-6MOA to 1MOA after I got a better stock, trigger, and hand-loaded a ton of different ammo to try. It's not hard to get accuracy out of a garbage gun with a bit of know-how.

>>515538394
But is it a magazine fed rifle? Not common for bolt action rifles. Didn't someone yesterday claim that some kind of propaganda was scratched onto the magazine of the rifle? Doesn't seem to correspond with the kind of rifle we're being shown here.

>>515544975
it had thermite in it

>>515544736
it's a dogtag chain and his shaded skin...

>>515544819
you've never shot a gun in your life you fucking retard. most soldiers until the GWoT where they got ACOGs were not hitting prone targets shooting back at them at 300 yards
>>515544868
I don't own any bolt guns because I'm not a homo. I have 2 ars, a lever action and a shotgun

>>515532273 (OP)
i thought /pol/ said it was filled with tranny slogans all over it?
lmao what the fuck

>>515533154
>bolt action rifles are god's chosen guns
what is the best bargain for a guy in California? >>515534302
>Remington 700?
Is it still a great rifle?

>>515544343
That very well could have happened, or it fragmented because ceramics are harder than brass and lead. Go back to retard school, seriously.

>>515532273 (OP)
Which one, /pol/?

>>515542812
Similar as in bullet diameter...the 30-06 has a much longer cartridge compared to a .308

>>515545176
tikka or ruger american for cheaper

>>515533016
Seethe.

>>515544973
>actually at all ranges a bullet drops, it starts dropping as soon as it leaves the barrel,
most of the time you are shooting up at a slight angle, hence the parabola. it's like how people throw balls with an arc to get them to go farther
>>515544979
russian guns are like 7-10 moa because all yuros are retarded trannies

>>515545121
ok dude, keep pissing vinegar, like i have something to prove to ya. All I'm saying is you don't know wtf you talking about.

>>515533366
t. Video Gamer
A-Rifles are just sniper rifles but semi-automatic, as long as they have similar barrel legnth and shoot the same cartridge they will perform about the same.

>>515543984
I'd say 200-250 or so is the edge of having a accurate shot with no spotter with ironsights.

>>515545331
Where's all the other fragments then? Why isn't the shirt shredded by all the spalling?

>>515532273 (OP)
I KNEW IT WAS ARTIE

why did he leave the gun in the woods?

>>515545125
on the casings, its already on the WSJ retard

>>515545121
>I'm not a homo
>owns four long guns
>one is a lever action
Lol

>>515542589
how they know what evidence they gona find, dum ass, the shitty cardboard box is a perfect fit

>>515545585
amateur

>>515532273 (OP)
Rem 700
Sub-Sonic .308
I called it as soon as I saw the video

>>515545682
>on the casings
the shooter shot once. WSJ is lying to you retard

>>515545604
Because his neck wasn't a brick fucking wall,??? ust the fact you posted that vid shows low iq

>>515545019
most bolt actions are magazine fed, you retard. they aren't single shot
>>515545512
guns are banned in canada, you fucking retard. I've shot at paper too. the reason everyone adopted the 5.56 is because the average soldier was not hitting a guy shooting back at them past 300 yards. literally all the data from every war from WWII until the GWoT supports that. you are talking about watching guys shoot paper from static positions and are comparing it to shooting at someone trying not to get hit with irons because you are a dickless no gunz tranny

>>515545645
a better question is why didn't he try to blend into the crowd after a shooting carrying a rifle?

>>515545467
>Russian
>Euro

???
Retarded on guns, and geography. Goes hand in hand I guess.

>>515545896
You're the one saying it hit his imaginary bulletproof vest and fragmented, retard.

>>515545716
lever guns are cool. bolt guns are for trannies, they were invented by yuros
>>515545954
russia is in yurop, retardo

>>515532273 (OP)
I'm just happy someone finally used any other gun.

>>515545922
he probably did try, that's why they took so long to review the footage and decide that he was a suspect

>>515534302
>Remington 700?
Looks like it
It's not a Savage

>>515532273 (OP)
He wanted to make a headshot but he didn't account for the drop

>>515533366
200 yrds isn't sniping by any stretch of the imagination and a semi-auto allowing follow up shots in the event you missed your target, which the shooter clearly did and got lucky with, would be a better choice. Hell, a semi auto set up in a dmr role wohld have been the best rifle for this. Using pappy's old durr rifle in an last yeara's cartridge screams stolen rifle or last minute what do you have here and now with a scope purchase.

>>515546048
Oh. Different anon. No. The bullet entered his jugular and shredded it.

>>515538394
R700 is one of the easiest rifles to get ahold of. The only think cheaper is a savage axis. The r700 is ubiquitous in LE and military because of contracts, not because it's some elite sniper weapon that only the pros can get ahold of.

>>515545604
Slow down the video, you can see it. Too many factors to tell, but one or the other happened. It also depends on the angle of incidence the bullet had with the vest as well, as to how it would bounce or not, fragment, etc. He also leans back a bit just before he is shot.

You can literally see the outline of his vest and him get jolted right in the chest without slowing it down.

>>515532273 (OP)
Is this the actual rifle? Where's the photo sourced from?

>>515545682
>no reports indicating said thing with source
>atf or fbi haven't confirmed
okay pal

>>515543637
This is for a bolt-action produced in 1941
>A standard military specification AR-15 typically has an accuracy rating of around 4 MOA
>modern assessments suggest that an average unmodified SMLE or No. 4 rifle in decent condition can achieve 3-4 MOA accuracy when fired from a lying supported position.

>>515532273 (OP)
This gun is totally legal in the UK even.

>>515538013
I think they did it like that because the ocular assembly was blocking the bolt

>>515545910
>guns are banned in canada
oh yeah? I must've missed the memo

>>515532837
That's a scout rifle not a AWP.
Remington makes a good one.

>>515546293
bong smles were like 5-7 moa
>>515546431
you got no dick
>>515546436
and you got no dick or gun

>>515546234
His Tshirt is totally undamaged. The fact that it moves is the shockwave of the bullet. He was hit in the neck. Why can't you just see that lol

Where is everyone getting the 200 yard figure from? I measured something like 130 yards on google maps. That's really not a hard shot to make with a scoped .30-06, on a stationary man-sized target

>>515545784
Has nothing to do with skill, has to do with human eyes.
Most people aren't standing on a hill with sand around them so you can get information back on where the impact is.
The reality here is you're the amateur, you think your range experience in a controlled environment is even remotely accurate to real world scenarios.
Meanwhile I know what it's like looking at human sized targets in green bushes at various ranges and how shit iron sights are for accurate shooting at the distances you claim.

>>515533366
Autoloaders are inherently less accurate than bolt action, assuming proper design. Both are inferior to certain single shot designs of course.

>>515546341
Like i said here.
>>515544823


Gun control just died

>>515546089
wouldn't that be tough carrying a rifle though?

>>515546558
go touch grass faggot, you lost the argument and it's painfully apparent.

>>515546710
that's literally not true, you do not own a firearm

>>515546866
you don't own a gun and you wear women's clothing and your uncle molested you and you are indian. you clearly lost, you are retarded and you've never seen a gun irl

>>515540090
Guys a fucking lying idiot. I am a former Army Ranger and have literally seen someone shot in the upper chest/neck with a 5.56 round from a SAW. The entry hole was literally the size of a pencil, which is the size of the actual round. The exit wound, on the other hand, can be much larger and 5.56 likes to tumble around inside of a body so it can exit in a weird place.

The round that hit Charlie was much bigger, had to be .308 or .30-06, 7.62 if you have an AK or some military rifle.

>>515546702
gratz bro, you're so good! can I suck your cock?

>>515546566
>The shockwave of the bullet.
Looool. Slow it down, you can see him get hit in the chest first, it literally then pulls the shirt directly to the spot on his neck where he gets hit. Some anon posted a 4x4 image of it but I didn't save.

>>515546900
If it wasn't true you'd say why instead of coping. That was your one chance, you coped when you should have ackchewallied.

>>515538013
Checks out

>>515547005
Dude you own two fudd guns and two poverty ponies with shartmart optics.

>>515545910
Where's the magazine then?

>>515546234
At the moment of impact, his body is thrown back and the front of his shirt stays basically where it is, that's just simple physics. The neck of the shirt gets blown upwards by the bullet passing by, it's literally got a shockwave of air passing by it about twice-3x the diameter of the bullet itself. That air tousles the neck of the shirt, throwing it up. There's no outline of any plate carrier, whatsoever. Even if it were, nothing, and I mean NOTHING thin enough to be basically invisible under a shirt is doind anything to deflect or absorb the impact from a hunting rifle cartridge, it'd stop 9mm MAYBE. The shirt being blown up covers the wound for a few frames, as soon as it comes down 3 frames later you can see the wound, and then the blood starts pouring out 5-6 frames later.

All of this is consistent with getting shot from the front, near high center mass, especially if the bullet stayed in and transfered all 2000 ft-lb of energy to the body, basically the same amount of energy as a prime Tyson punch, to the throat.

Beyond all this, I don't think his ego would've allowed him to wear a vest.

>>515546900
He's mostly, but not entirely, wrong. Properly tuned, a boltie CAN be made tighter than a SA. But that's after a smith gets his hands on it. Just off the shelf? Yeah it's gonna be all over the place. Some semis will perform better some bolties. Accuracy is very specific.

>>515546566
These retarded shills keep pushing that, "muh vest" it went in his neck and out the back of his head.

>>515539742
Holy absolute lie. The literal opposite was PROVEN just by watching the fucking video where you can see the entire outline of Charlie's torso beneath his shirt including his pecs and curve of his stomach. Shut the fuck up with your gaslighting.

>>515532273 (OP)
Maybe we should let trannies in the military afterall. They seem to be very good at shooting. That was an incredible shot

>>515547091
I'm not even that good, I just know what it's really like.
I am however really good with a shotgun.

>>515547498
So it completely fucked his ass but didn't do much as tear the shirt. Got it. You're retarded.

>>515547504
And properly tuned semi-autos won't have any moving parts until the bullet has already left the barrel while being better for keeping followup shots on target. Cheap bolt actions will almost always be more accurate than cheap semi-autos though.

>>515544736
You can see his man titties = no body armor.

>>515532273 (OP)
Nigger was probably aiming for his head and missed by like 6 inches.

>>515547268
you sound like a retarded troon
>>515547331
one of my ARs is a compass lake, retardo and I have an acog, you are a gay retard
>>515547465
under the bolt

>>515547518
The shot was taken at a downward angle. The exit wound should be near the base of his neck.
You're right that it wasn't a ricochet. The downward angle makes that theory even more implausible.

>>515534302
I’m sick of these retards spreading that this is a Rem 700 or whatever

It’s a fucking Mauser 98. It was probably rebarreled at some point and has a newer stock and a terribly mounted scope, but this is a Mauser. Check the cocking piece on the back of the bolt, you can see the flag safety, you can see the long extractor the length of the bolt body.

>ar15 funko pop
Only a Reddit faggot would say something this incredibly retarded

>>515547984
Yeah i agree that it makes no sense that it wasn't an ar15. And multiple shots just to be sure. But that appears to be the case. And us trying to apply logic isn't going to work, because the shooter has to be a bit nutty to begin with. Charlie was no one worth killing.

>>515547877
Because it NEVER HIT THE SHIRT, RETARD. The vacuum of the bullet passing by his shirt, like a train passing by and pulling you in with the low pressure air behind it, is what throws the collar of the shirt upwards for a fraction of a second, stretching it flat to make it look like there's something there when it's just suspended in the air looney-tunes style because of the force of the impact. Look at any high-speed collision and you'll see the same thing, something loosely attached won't immediately follow the rest of the mass because of NEWTONS FIRST FUCKING LAW

>>515546558
You are just coping at this point. I like the AR platform but it's not the be-all, end-all of rifles.

>>515547984
a poverty pony AR will btfo any bolt made before 2000
>>515548352
you live in a no gunz country, you gay retard. new guns are better than old guns when it comes to accuracy and it isn't close

>>515548153
Head or center mass, either way he hit about 6" from intended target

>>515538394
It’s also pretty cheap and very common, so as not to be easily traced.

>>515547271
Does David Hogg have an alibi?

>>515548307
Are we in violent agreement? I'm saying the bullet hit his neck and the movement of the shirt is the shockwave.

Exactly what it is YOU are saying?

>>515544517
You tarded, BRUH

>>515532273 (OP)
>bolt action
nice pick

>>515548232
Looks more like a bubba'd arisaka to me, which retards actually used to shoot .30-06 out of because the action can handle it

>>515548778
That's exactly what I'm saying, lmao. Anyone who believes the body armor ricochet is a grade A retard.

>>515548232
>It’s a fucking Mauser 98
Nope.

>>515544702
Is that a self portrait?
(If YOURSELF)

>>515548863
I hate to say it but thank God it wasn't a high capacity semiauto

>>515548219
200 yards with a 30 foot drop is less than 3 degrees. a 40 foot drop is less then 4. When you lean back you're probably leaning at a considerably larger angle. It's clear as day in the slowed down footage though.

>>515548918
Yeah and that was my point. If it had been a ricochet how the fuck is the shirt undamaged?

>>515548306
Eh, it makes sense to me. Anyone with a hunter in the family would have access to a rifle that could make that shot. Even better if it's grandpa's old deer rifle that has no way to trace back to you.

>>515548954
Good. Because if someone really put ugly ass black plastic furniture on a 98 i would have wanted him in jail just for that.

>>515548615
Hence the "almost always". Ars are inherently accurate and there's shitloads of competition driving down the cost. No one even makes an AR that shoots over 1 MOA.

>>515532273 (OP)
that zoomie literally playin fortnite at real life

>>515542568
>1970s and 80s hunting rifles are like 4 moa
Son, you should stop talking about things you don't understand. Might be time to put your phone down, and go outside to touch some grass. Maybe go get a gun and shoot one for the first time?

>>515539398
This

>>515548615
I've lived in a lot of countries anon. The largest caliber I've ever shot was a 30mm APFSDS. You are being really silly anyway, bolt-actions have their place, just like an AR variant. And yes technology improves with time. Amazing observation Sherlock.

>>515539709
Yeah, bolt and barrel are original, stock is cheap $50 composite and scope looks really poorly positioned, like it might actually touch the bolt during cycling

>>515538779
I’m sure he was going for a headshot.

>>515549826
*25mm whoops. Been a while

>>515546448
that gunshot was loud asf. thats an AWP

>>515549957
My thoughts. And it hit low due to drop. And Charlie is super unlucky because a couple inches left or right would have been survivable.

>>515532273 (OP)
scout 360 noscop jumping form the roof into the pool (it's closed)

>>515550103
imagine not being able to hit his huge head

at first I thought the shooter was a pro but now im questioning it.

>>515548954
bruh, it's not a modern mauser, it's a surplus one

>>515532273 (OP)
all of these no gunz talking shit about 10 bazillion dollar sniper rifles.
It looks like the cheapest POS bolt action with an improperly mounted cheap ass scope.
>But... but it takes a special forces sniper to make a shitty shot from 150 years!!!
Absolute stupidity of the no gunz normie faggots!

>>515544973
It's more accurate to say it begins accelerating downwards.

>>515532273 (OP)
Can this rifle be broken down to fit in a backpack? Photos of "suspect" was wearing a backpack.

i have this gun, it cost $229, it is accurate and shoots deer.

>>515534525
nobody seems to be doing the "back and to the left" meme
despite it being 100% on the point
maybe because it woudl evoke anti sentiments due to the similarity to the jfk assassiation ?

>>515546206
I think the TC Compass is cheaper.

>>515546436
>Mark Carney saying in an interview that the buyback is "voluntary"
lmao

>>515550678
I know. 100 yards is nothing.

>>515549522
>No one even makes an AR that shoots over 1 MOA.
While there are very accurate off the shelf rifles AR and bolt actions as well do to improvements in manufacturing, the 1 MOA guarantee is largely an advertising gimmick that means if you but the gun then return it to the manufacturer claiming it does not shoot 1 MOA they will send you back a target proving it does along with a bill for their time to address your false claim. Nobody in their right mind claims anyone can buy the rifle they made and with whatever fucking ammo they want will always make 3 shot groups under 1 inch at 100 yards.

Psychic here
This was a left wing tranny FtM that lives in the general Utah area and goes hunting. They have connections to major DNC organizations in that area and possible NATO ties.

>>515534302
>>515538394
The mauser action is used on a lot of bolt rifles.

>>515547504
>Properly tuned, a boltie CAN be made tighter than a SA. But that's after a smith gets his hands on it. Just off the shelf? Yeah it's gonna be all over the place. Some semis will perform better some bolties. Accuracy is very specific.
What lol? In general it would be safe to expect at any price point, that the bolt action rifle is more precise. And if you start customizing your gun you will end up with a more precise and accurate bolt action vs. semi given the same budget. You can't even properly chamber a round made for precision competition with a semi-auto. You will be seating your bullets forward to the point that they touch the rifling on the foreward part of the bearing surface for best performance in precision shooting.

>>515547984
>And properly tuned semi-autos won't have any moving parts until the bullet has already left the barrel
WHAT? It has much more to do with inherent stiffness of a well designed bolt action or single shot rifle's receiver vs. a semi. Single shot rifles (in general) have the stiffest, simplest receivers. Followed by bolt action, followed by semi.

You two don't seem like firearms enthusiasts at all.

>>515550803
Bolt-actions are kind of like bicycles, it's proven technology. First bolt-action was invented in 1836, first bicycle in 1817. Fun thread (strangely)

>>515550828
Yeah, break actions are cheaper. I hunt with one, but no one stocks them and no one ever seems to want to buy one. I got a 1/2 MOA rifle for under $200 though so I'm not complaining

>>515532273 (OP)
It was a trained assassin to choose bolt gun over a semi auto. Smells like a glownigger

>>515548863
bolts were invented by yuros, so they are tranny guns
>>515549680
you've never shot a gun in your life, you dickless retard

>>515551023
I'm fact it makes me mad that the guy was this close. It means security didn't do their job. Or they weren't even thinking a person might try it. Either way, just negligent. A man with a rifle at 100yds is so obvious to anyone scanning the crowd. Then they could have had him duck


It's gonna get to where anyone with any clout whatsoever needs full security details.

It you can afford it, you should have it.

>>515533366
At that range, AR would have been the superior choice given the blowback function. Why does everyone think this to be so difficult?

I was 1kk into bootcamp, never fired a gun before that and I was shooting human sized targets with an AK at 400 meters with iron sights. It's really not that difficult

>>515549826
you've never seen a gun in your life and you wear women's clothing, like all yuros

>>515551102
Thanks man I just thought i was a horrible shot.

>>515551307
TC Compass is a bolt gun.

>>515551558
>blowback
It's not a fucking airsoft, you larper.

>>515543637
They haven't made AB1s since 1994 noguns retard.

>>515551102
I'm talking apples to apples here. You can have the best rifle on the planet, but if you shoot shit ammo you will get shit results. All of those 1 moa claims come from using otc match ammo. Shoot xm855 out of whatever AR and you will get 4 MOA, shoot match ammo out of it from a cold bore and you will get 1 MOA.

>>515551184
Then why isn't single shot even present in long range competitions? It's all 6.5 bolties.

>>515548984
The moment before the shot he's hunched over with his neck angled toward the shooter. He has moderate thoracic kyphosis so even though he's leaning back in the chair his head is forward.

>>515551558
>AR would have been the superior choice
Prove it. Cell activated. You know what to do.

>>515532273 (OP)
Ban assault hunting rifles

>>515550633
The bolt tilts forward, the safety mechanism looks a lot like a winchester rifle, but all the winchester rifles I've seen the bolt handle tilts backwards.
I don't know what rifle it is, maybe the bolt handle is flipped or something weird.
It's not a mauser as far as I can tell, they don't have that kind of particular roundness behind the bolt with a up down safety switch attached.

>>515536025
Free-floating of the barrel allows for better barrel harmonics, while the bolt mechanism offers more consistent dispersal of gasses generated by the gunpowder igniting.

>>515546448
>not an awp

Oh yeah, how many shots did it take to kill him, retard?

>>515551718
Didn't realize TC even made anything other than break actions. Regardless, my point still stands that the r700 is basic bitch.

>>515551816
no one cares about your tranny 6 moa hunting rifle, no gunz tranny

>>515552126
If I got one, I'd probably go for a Vietnam-era clone build.

>>515551184
I'm not a firearms enthusiast, but I know enough to say the .338 LAPUA round is badass and enjoyed the Accuracy International bolt-actions I shot.
>>515551559
Ok, now I know you're a retard. You are very entertaining though anon. I'd have a beer with you any day, you'd love my cute little dress. Cozy

What's the point of wearing a disguise if you are going to fingerfuck the murder weapon before you leave?

>>515552306
Yeah it's almost like all these breadcrumbs are intentional.

>>515551184
>WHAT? It has much more to do with inherent stiffness of a well designed bolt action or single shot rifle's receiver vs. a semi.
Explain how an AR or CETME platform is less stiff than any bolt gun. The AR has the advantage of basically being one long tube from muzzel to shoulderpad

>>515552302
>Lapua.
Kek this was not that. Half his body would be gone.

>>515552102
An AWP deals 115 damage per shot, I'm sure we can figure this out

>>515550518
Maybe he was so much of a pro that he was able to precisely hit the carotid artery to make it look like an amateur shot but still be lethal

>>515547749
It really wasn't. Looks about 150 yards. I'm an average shot at best l, and on the sticks I have dropped anl stationary elk at 300

>>515548210
That $50 thing you got on wish isn't a real acog lol

>>515551977
>The bolt tilts forward,
You talking the bolt handle? That is what throws me off. Rem 700s usually they have a bend in the middle going back a little from that point, and a Winchester is a Mauser clone damn near other than the bolt hand being obviously angled back for its whole length.

>>515552574
Oh definitely. That's pink mist, saw videos of it too. Gnarly.

>>515552199
>underage b& makes ridiculous statement
>gets btfo
>WELL NO ONE CARES ACKCHUALLY
the circle of life

>>515552302
see, knew you were a no gunz tranny. all yuros are troons
>>515552852
I have a real acog, you literal tranny

>>515553147
nah, you got btfo'd and you have no dick, tranny. you are obviously a dickless no gunz yuro on a proxy, retard

>>515553160
No you don't lmao you're an obvious fat fudd retard who clearly doesn't even know what MOA is and based on your tranny obsession you're currently gooning to shemales.