Thread 515556937

Exactly how is the 2nd amendment gonna protect you from tyranny when the government has tanks, jets, nukes and battleships? Didn’t think that quite through, did you, dumbfucks?

>>515556937 (OP)
lol leftists have been calling on street gangs for this

>>515556937 (OP)
it is very easy
try having a gun

>>515556937 (OP)
easy, im on the same side as the government, military, police

>buy a gun
>government is now forced to bomb their own infrastructure
lmao

>>515556937 (OP)
Where do the people that operate that equipment live?
Where do their loved ones live?
What companies supply the military?
Who works for them?
Where do their loved ones live?
Where do the elected officials that gave the orders live?
Where do their loved ones live?

>>515556937 (OP)
You can easily put up a fight with any military unit who prioritizes “hearts and minds”.

How did NATO lose against pajamas wearing goat farmers after 20 years of all out war 40v1?

>>515557447
So if the military would go against a tyrannical government why did you need a gun again?

>>515557693
They didn’t though

>>515556937 (OP)
>tanks
Useless shit

>jets, nukes and battleships
Won't be used because meaningless bomb your own cities

They'd win, but they'd have nothing but scorched earth and corpses to rule over. Just depends how much of a madman is in charge. Pyrrhic victories would forever more be known as "American victories."

>>515556937 (OP)
lamo indeed

>>515557768
military is not some imaginary thing
it is just some dudes

IDK how does the government do it?

>>515557877
Hmm funny I thought the Taliban control Afghanistan now after winning the war

>>515556937 (OP)
Taliban did pretty good for 20 years with old AK-47s and cheap Semtex.

>>515556937 (OP)
That didn’t stop the Taliban

>>515557768
Who said anything about the military being on the side of civilians?
The point is that they and their loved ones reside within easy reach of the people they are going to war against.
That's how the 2nd amendment works against armor.

>>515556937 (OP)
i will bait them to nuke me, i mean us

>>515558213
I don’t recall that happening

mandatory

>>515556937 (OP)
didn’t stop rice farmers you retarded shitskin

>>515556937 (OP)
Not a single tank jet nukes or battleships stopped Charlie's death

>>515556937 (OP)
Is it more likely that they fire a $1.5M missile at my mobile home, or send in a team of men to try to smoke me out?

Also the command can also legally disobey orders against citizens.

>>515556937 (OP)
Shut the fuck up, slave bitch. If you had any actual stolt, you´d kill yourself.

>>515557438
lel

>>515557352
Kill yourself, shill filth.

>>515556937 (OP)
picrel explains it.

>>515557438
>>515557447
>>515557495
>>515557898
>>515557910
>>515557944
>>515558326
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>>515558542
You guys forgot what happened in syria. All it takes is the military to firebomb a bunch of retards in the mountains and a city for you all to get back to place

>>515556937 (OP)
It's ol American penis enlargement pill. They're all sub 190 cm manlets that couldn't physically defend themselves without a weapon. In their day to day they go around day dreaming about being put into a self defense scenario because they need the power fantasy in their meaningless drone lives. The government angle is just that amplified to it's end point. It really is only for the weakest of the lot that really fucked up at life whose existence means nothing to no one. Those are the ones that cling to this fantasy

>>515558626
It's far more cost effective to decimate poor communities with bioweapons and chemical agents (crack with lethal fent dose embedded, for example)

>>515556937 (OP)
Hamas killed like 1000 IDF rats using homemade explosives while being constrained to a tiny piece of land and they're still technically undefeated.

i don't think the government wants to turn their country into gaza fighting a war against their own citizens

>>515556937 (OP)
Say that to the over 100 million murdered disarmed citiziens in Stalin regime, Mao Zedong regime, Algeria genocide and most recently 19 people in Nepal.

>>515556937 (OP)
VEITCONG
TALIBAN

>>515556937 (OP)
ok

>>515558799
Or... just starve out enemy cites and set an example
let me guess rebels can control the farm land? when it's just flat terrain for miles on end?

>>515556937 (OP)
Ask the Taliban
Ask the Vietcong

>>515556937 (OP)
>Exactly how is the 2nd amendment gonna protect you from tyranny when the government has tanks, jets, nukes and battleships?
They also have soldiers.

>>515556937 (OP)
>It'll totally happen like Afghanistan and Vietnam
nah- if it's Americans killing Americans the government will open up and not play the sustained game of gouging the tax payers and using ridiculous rules of engagement to line the pockets of the military industrial complex like before, they need you back flipping burgers to make them rich ASAP. Your country is insanely evil Americans, get within the structure and attack within- just like these faggot woke types.

>>515559070
But it's a death battle in the US militaries home...

>>515558833
>You guys forgot what happened in syria.
it's still happening

>>515556937 (OP)
The personnel live with us and these complex machines require loads of work to make work right. Rifle is good enough to grind them to a halt. Iirc something low maintenance like a f16 is like 11-15 hours down for every flight hour.

>>515556937 (OP)
Seemed to work for the taliban

>>515559208
retarded larps think the american population can sustain .1% of the syrian civil war

>>515556937 (OP)
The U.S. has not won an actual war since WWII. The real question is: Why do we spend so much on an incompetent military?

>>515557495
Yeah, well that's the thing, isn't it?

All the fantasies about how the patriot militias will resist the tyrannical government are predicated on the government's military operating under the same rules of engagement they did in Iraq and Afghanistan, countries on the other side of the world with near zero economic or strategic value. In other words, conflicts where public opinion, both international and domestic, are far more important than actually winning battles and accomplishing overall strategic goals.

Somehow it never occurs to any of you that the rules might be different if the politicians were fighting for their actual lives rather than to score points in the next election cycle.

>>515557447
They'll live in green zones where anyone whose loyalty is remotely suspect has been removed.

They will go house by house. The 4th amendment will mean nothing, they will kick in your door and shoot you dead if you try to stop them. They will tear your house apart looking for contraband - guns, bombs, prohibited devices like drones - and they will force you to unlock your phone and download the contents. If any contraband is found, if any anti-government material is found on your devices, you will go to a concentration camp. If they find that you have been actively aiding the rebels, you will be summarily executed.

And most people will do exactly what they are told. You are *so* naïve both about how your government will act in the event of a civil war, and how many people will be brave enough to resist them.

>>515558833
Ass-ad is lose

>>515556937 (OP)
You go after the soft easy things. not the hard ones.

>>515559058
Maybe they can't control it but they can ensure you can never grow anything on it. Unless you have the manpower to guard every single acre. If either side is feeling really spiteful the land will end up salted and worthless even after the war, or filled with landmines

>>515559339
>retarded larps
that sums up your posts nicely

>>515556937 (OP)
See
>>515558475

The shit I was going to write, but more memorable.

>>515556937 (OP)
>drones
don't have the uptime to surveil the entire country
>helicopter
can be brought down witn a single .50 cal rifle
>tank
useless without infantry support
>nukes
yeah, just nuke your own citizens... that'll go over well...

>>515556937 (OP)
>be democrat politician
>nuke your own tax base

>>515556937 (OP)
Same why aghan beat us or any small army. Just because you’re physically big, doesn’t mean shit in this reality.

Kek

>>515556937 (OP)
WHO CONTROLS THE US GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW, SWEDETWINK?

>>515559144
We had two civil wars in American history.

>>515559355
Yes, now what side will the jews be on?
>>515559434
No you don't, you just need to control the road ways and survival the area with constant ISR. Make the flatlands a total kill zone filled with drones. You are not hiding from a Global hawk and MQ9 in a hunter killer team across the state of Montana for example.
They will just sniff your comms, states away and be ready to bomb you

>>515559981
surveille*

>>515559352
>They will go house by house.
And that right there is where the 2nd comes into play
Surrendercommies like to pretend that nothing would happen.
However they haven't seen the situation get anywhere close to a flashpoint for the people to take up arms.
They like to larp with the "you wont do shit" because all they have seen so far is self control, and it confuses them.
kekked hard
captcha: RX SMG

>>515559275
The Taliban was funded by the U.S. to create disruptions and plausible reason to infiltrate in Middle Eastern affairs. Even when the U.S. left Afghanistan we made sure to leave all the weapons behind for the Taliban. Now we support an AlQaeda leader in Syria who has killed Americans with his barehands.

>>515559070
about how they were blown the fuck out in all holes for years, before burgers just got bored and decided they dont fancy wasting a shit ton of money to keep some monkeys from blowing themselves up?

you guys do realize that during the war Vietcong virtually stopped existing?
the war went along because the north vietnamese regular army got involved

and the taliban?
having to spend half of your life in a cave sure seems like winning to me

>>515556937 (OP)
Tell the same thing to the Vietnamese farmers, they beat off the might of the US gov with old AK47's and guerrilla warfare dumbfuck, what the fuck does Sweden know about fighting anyway? You've sat everything out and enjoyed the benefits it brought, sort out Malmo before you start ranting on here Swedecuck

2A faggots think its going to be We The People against afaceless government. Insurgencies are not so simple. 2A larpers will be terrozing their neighbors to prevent them from snitching, just like in Vietnam and Afghanistan. The average joe just wants to live in peace. 2A larpers will be shooting their neighbors to keep them in line, we the people huh.
And Vietnam and Afghanistan had like 20:1 death ratio, your fat fuck ar15 larper doesn't have that discipline lmao

>>515559547
the nuke question in a civil war is so retarded. The side that uses one automatically loses the propaganda war.

>>515559352
>They will go house by house.
Please stop, you're making me hard
Where is the boot I need to lick for this to happen?
What contributions can I make to help make this happen faster?

>>515559981
I'll admit I haven't factored drones into the wargames me and my friends ran a decade ago. I probably should run them again with all the lessons Ukraine has taught us.
Of course, drone use goes both ways, and you can't grow crops on land that's been poisoned via drones piloted by fiber optics.
I need to think on this more. My assertion was correct in the year 2014.

>>515556937 (OP)
>defending yourself is difficult so just don't even bother

>>515556937 (OP)
see vietnam
you'd have to level everything down into a desert to prevent guerilla warfare running circles around you

>>515560529
so much cope in one little post

>>515557768

You got BTFO lol. Welcome to 4chan.

>>515558799
>police are needed to maintain a police state, boots on the ground
This part at least is true, but this
>And no matter how many police you have on the ground thy will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians
is a complete no sequitur. I mean, sure, the police will be outnumbered, but that doesn't matter because the moment those armed civilians actually use their numbers, they'll get flattened by heavy weaponry.

I mean, take the following scenario: a hundred soldiers are sent into a neighbourhood to raid a suspected rebel stash house. The heavily rebel-sympathising neighbourhood rises up and a thousand local men grab their weapons and go to defend the stash house. What do you think happens then? Do you think the military just says to themselves: well, shit, out troops are outnumbered, better luck next time I guess. No, they send in their tanks, jets, drones, etc.

And then the next time a hundred cops are sent into a neighbourhood, all the rebels keep their heads down, because they saw what happened to the last lot that tried that. Then they have to get rid of their weapons because the government can search houses at will and they'll be arrested. Then they have no way of stopping the military setting up checkpoints and enforcing a curfew. So eventually what you have is not a rebel-held neighbourhood but a bunch of resentful but powerless people who don't even dare throw rocks at the soldiers.

>>515560137
Then I'll give you a better example. It works for criminal organizations here in brazil and in mexico. They control territory and the government isn't able to get rid of them completely.
The closest the government managed to get rid of them was using the same strategy the US used against the taliban, they sent a bunch of army and kept boots on ground but then just like with the taliban when they left the place the criminals came back.

>>515560676
Ok, lets say you manage to breach the massive hunter killer network around the rural zone and manage to produce a chemical lethal enough to kill massive amounts of crops and dissipate it over large amounts of land to actually cause supply damage(you can't btw)
you will just be starving your own cities out, or pushing people into desperation... and the government controls the farmland...
Also considering you managed to do that, command will definitely punish you. Expect battlefield white phosphorus usage and decapitation strikes on leaderships as they deem you to radical to induct into a peace plan.
>you really need to stop thinking enemies will play nice, especially if you don't

>>515556937 (OP)
Don't even need guns really. Wasn't that wife of the Nepal PM burned alive in her own home? Makes you think.

the 2nd amendment protects my right to own a battleship

>>515556937 (OP)
>JUST DISARM YOURSELVES GOYIM SO WE CAN KILL YOU EASILY

>>515561313
Read my original post. These are exactly the things I would predict happening. A couple propane tanks also take out a city building. No one wins here, even if there's a clear victor. Pyrrhus weeps. Neither side wants it, which is the point of the 2A.

>>515556937 (OP)
Afghanistan.

>>515561175
>complete no sequitur
I followed it fairly easily, actually. Seems like you just don't like/agree with what he said. That doesn't let you call it a non sequitur. You're also completely mistaken in thinking a modern tyrannical government would use "heavy weaponry" against swathes of their civilian population.

>>515556937 (OP)
How well did that work for the US in the middle east? War is ultimately just a numbers game, and the public outnumbers the military by a pretty large margin.

>>515560105
>Surrendercommies like to pretend that nothing would happen.
Oh, I'm sure some of you nuts would put up a fight.

But what do you think happens when a soldier kicks down a down and gets turned into Swiss cheese by an AR-15. Do you think the soldiers behind him go 'oh shit, they're armed, run away!'?

No. They kill the homeowner, and his entire fucking family too.

It wouldn't be the last time someone shot at the soldiers. It might take another hundred families, or another thousand. But there is a point where people stop trying that kind of thing. Your trouble is that your judgement on how many people would actively resist the government is based on people talking shit online, and I assure you, when shit finally does hit the fan the proportion of your collective 2nd amendment circlejerk who will actually be willing to sacrifice themselves, their wife, and their children to the cause is much, much lower than you think it is.

>>515562129
what makes you think the public supports the insurgency? most people just want peace. the number of insurgency supporters is small, most support the government because they provide stability.

>>515562294
The lessons we learned in the middle east show that killing one member of a family tends to result in the radicalization of other members of the family. It would take a lot of deaths. Which they could do, have no doubt about it, but they'd bleed for it as well.

>>515561175
You don't fight a superior force on an even playing field. You use guerilla hit and run tactics and sabotage to weaken their morale, that's how it's usually done throughout history

>>515556937 (OP)
>pilots live inside their cockpits
>us airbase are immune to Ukraine style drones
>>>>>>>>>>>>us air force bombing Americans on America soil

get grenade'd

>>515562030
>You're also completely mistaken in thinking a modern tyrannical government would use "heavy weaponry" against swathes of their civilian population.
Literally every modern civil war proves that they will. Try telling Aleppo that.

What, you think public opinion will stop the government carpet bombing entire neighbourhoods? You are *wildly* over-estimating how much your fellow citizens care about you. Half of America actively hates the other half already, can you imagine how bad it will get when the bullets actually start flying?

>>515557944
Yeah that Taliban dude and the Afganistan folly is a good example. You can't just kill everyone.

But that being said, the tech landscape has changed things.
Particularly in USA cameras are already everywhere, and automated AI tracking cameras like pic rel have already been set up in USA in the tune of tens of thousands joining the other CCTV types of hundreds of thousands.

They can already track people's every move in many major cities, and the tech only improves and if they can push this forward, it is very much possible technologically now to create a system where anyone is tracked to the point of not being able to form a resistance.

The most effective tool still is propaganda though, I mean how many people think that the Nazi heroes trying to save the White world were the bad guys, and the jewish multiculturalists destroying the White world are the good guys?

>>515563014
I imagine a drone swarm would wreak absolute hell inside of a modern manufacturing facility or data center.

>>515556937 (OP)
Ah yes, US tech that absolutely OBLITERATED the Taliban and the Viet Cong.... wait

>>515556937 (OP)
see anon gun ownership barely worked even when you had a small population and similar firepower unlike now where the school shooter gun is facing ICBM and nukes.

>>515563134
some retards with a plan,no cellphones and Molotovs can easily cripple multimillion dollar infrastructure and companies/state systems


the people in power either don't know or don't care about how insanely fragile their top heavy control system is

like,look at the electricity grid
just saying anons

>>515557447
just shoot transformers and burn down critical infrastructure especially near big cities, ez win

>>515563552
I've worked again data centres, most are pretty vulnerable. You know what else is very vulnerable? Underground data cables. A group of people with handheld power tools and the right information could take down an entire cities communications in one night

>>515557438
Even if you lose, make them pay the heaviest possible price for winning.

>>515563117
This is actually a very good video on the subject.
If you can get past the fact that the presenter is an annoying "socio-economic factors", doesn't see race, type of libtard, the video itself is extremely informative

Breaking The Creepy AI in Police Cameras
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ

They are called automatic license-plate readers (ALPR) but they can absolutely do more than "just" track everywhere your car ever was at any given point.
All of those feeds are saved and can be parsed through later and obviously any current or future AI algorithm applied to track you.
Sure you can escape those innawoods, but you cant escape satellites which are also advancing all the time.

We are running out of time to kill all the jews, if we don't do it soon they will set up barriers that the jews can never be killed nor the non-whites booted from our White territories and at that point we are done for, and the end point of our societies will look like South Africa

>>515556937 (OP)
they either rule over ashes, or meet a bullet at every door to make people comply with tyranny.

>>515556937 (OP)
Insurrection scenarios are absolute nightmares which you should know if you ever looked at this. You don’t get neat divisions of friend and foe, half the people in the military might well sympathize with the breakaway, you’ll inevitably kill civilians trying to use those aircraft and bombs now you’re making more rebels and eroding support.
Your own citizens blend in with nonfighters, they have knowledge of and access to infrastructure targets that an invasion force can never have. They speak the same language, down to dialects.
And in the US there’s enough guns and ammo to support a century of civil war even if you magically cut off all civilian production tomorrow. You just saw what some guy with a bolt action can do.
JFKs head blew off. Reagan got shot. Trump was barely missed. This is not even counting older assassinations and attempt (Roosevelt for example).

We haven’t even seen drone and suicide attacks against pols. It’s almost impossible to protect them you’ve seen the incompetence already with far lesser threats.

On the other end of this you have the practical experience of trying to fight insurgents in other countries. Can’t defeat gooks in a rice field or sandniggers hiding in caves. How the fuck would they do better against their own citizens?

>>515556937 (OP)
>korea
>vietnam
>iraq
>afghanistan
US army can't handle guerrilla warfare.....

>>515562618
And there we go again, trying to take lessons from the Middle East and apply them to a domestic conflict.

In a civil war, it would be a win or die situation for both factions. They can't just shrug and go home if they start losing like they could in the Middle East. They will bleed as much as they need to because they have absolutely nothing to lose.

>>515562763
Yeah, and throughout history guerrillas usually lose. You just don't hear about it as much because, well, where's the story in 'there's no war here'. Take Malaysia. Very similar situation to the Vietnam conflict: communist guerrillas trying to overthrow the government. There were, however, two major differences. The first was that the government was us (the British), and we're considerably more competent at forming good relations with the locals than Americans are. The second was that the Malaysian communists had no direct outside support. There's this persistent myth that Vietnam was won by a bunch of rice farmers who saw an American GI stomping through their paddy field and picked up an AK-47. In reality, the guerrillas were mostly North Vietnamese regular soldiers using weapons supplied by the Russians and Chinese.

The vast majority of guerrilla insurgencies are crushed by organised government forces. I mean shit, almost every South American country had one at some point, and where are they now. Philippines, Indonesia, India, dozens of other countries. Hell, we had the IRA running an insurgency for thirty years and how far did they get? Guerrillas get more attention than they deserve because America keeps losing to them, and Americans prefer to pretend that guerrilla warfare is really hard to counter rather than admit that they suck at it. Generally speaking, the only time guerrillas win is if a foreign nation with a real military is using them as a sock-puppet.

>>515564151
its sad that these botnet cameras got deployed everywhere so quickly and nobody fucking cared. no protests or pushback at all. And Americans still talk shit about chinese surveillance lol.

>>515556937 (OP)
>Vietnam has entered the chat
>Japan has entered the chat (nuclear option was required to avoid mass military casualties)
>Iraq has entered the chat
>Afghanistan has entered the chat
>Mexican cartels have entered the chat
>Venezuelan gangs in Aurora, Colorado have entered the chat
>Uvalde, Texas has entered the chat
>Katrina aftermath has entered the chat

>>515556937 (OP)
>The operators of said things have friends, family and pets
>What is a supply line?
>What is destroying power grids?
>What is occuoying their airfields and bases?

>>515564694
>In a civil war, it would be a win or die situation for both factions. They can't just shrug and go home if they start losing like they could in the Middle East. They will bleed as much as they need to because they have absolutely nothing to lose.
Yes, and that goes both ways. If anything the radicalization would be even stronger.

>>515564694
You are correct which is why they need to fight as dirty as possible

>>515556937 (OP)
Why have you been on here seething about the citizens of another country owning guns all day?

>>515556937 (OP)
They killed Charlie and almost trump.
I think guns still work

>>515556937 (OP)
Apparently you forgot guerrilla warfare exist and that the government has families and addresses.

>>515556937 (OP)

How are they going to move the fuel to their tanks jets nukes and battleships?

>>515558833
I think the government will start by fire bombing a white state like a city in Wyoming and a few rural towns to demoralize whites. But those who don't back down will have drones sent to their homes to bomb them

>>515564151
Lets face it though, most of you are zoomers who watch 30-second TikToks and not 35 minute deep-dives.

So the most interesting take-away from the video is this: you can fight AI with AI.

As in the AI models are black-box technology who fundamentally doesn't understand how it creates the result it does nor you, it is not sentient in anyway.

So things which would absolutely not fool you and would still allow you to detect a license plate, a face, or whatever, like some pattern of specificly-patterned paint specks, it can absolutely throw off the AI to point of not even recognizing a plate at all, let alone read it.

The way to do it is basically to use the recognition AI to create another AI that creates patterns which the recognition AI doesnt detect.
It can be just almost non visible paint specks of some random shapes, like said, it doesnt intuitively make sense that it can throw off the AI but it does, because it disrupts some unknown part of the AI's logic flow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932021)

>Taliban victory
Really makes ya think!

>>515556937 (OP)
i'm more interested in why do you guys need guns at all when anyone can improvise far more lethal and less conspicuous shit at home? they're controlled by government, require expensive ammunition and skill to handle, and not as reliable as people think they are
seems more like a fetish to me desu

>>515564559
The Battle of Saipan/Okinawa had guerrilla warfare.

>>515556937 (OP)
So you're saying we should also have tanks, drones, missiles, and helicopters? Or that we should be defenseless against tyrannical government?

>>515564779
>And Americans still talk shit about chinese surveillance lol.
Yeah this is the part that was very strange to me as an outsider. I always thought of Americans as very privacy and freedom-focused bunch sharing the same disdain of chinese mass surveillance, but now that it happened to you there is not much as a peep which I found VERY strange
Like why do you no longer stand for the ideals you were so adamant about? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Is it that you never had ideals and it was just a "china bad usa good" like red vs blue retarded sports team type of thing, that when they do it is bad and when you do it is good?

>>515564262
>a bullet at every door
Even presupposing that you could get every American outside the government on your side - and right now half of Americans would support a foreign dictator taking over the country if it meant sticking it to the people from [opposite political party] - it wouldn't be every door.

First ten doors, maybe. First hundred doors, you'd be lucky. But when the hundred and first householder has watched all his neighbours - and their wife, kids, pets, etc - get blown into meaty chunks, you can bet he's going to lay on the floor with his hands over his head like the guy with the loudspeaker says.

The government doesn't need to reduce the whole country to ash. Just enough of it to make a point.

>>515563508
It always makes me lmao that leftists can't draw guns properly and always produce some Mini14AK37M16 abomination that a child might draw

>>515556937 (OP)
sweden fag spamming over and over. go get raped faggot. we'll take our chances

>>515556937 (OP)
>he doesn't own a gun and will be The Raped
lel kill yourself tranny

>>515565240
Maybe you are some dagestani shitskinned muslim that thinks we're talking about terrorism like blowing up some random markets killing random civilians and thinking thats how you build a society

Because other than that, dudes with assault rifles is much more effective of taking control.
We don't want to kill random people, our own people, thats a shitskin thing.
We want to targetedly kill enemies

>>515564973
So you're radicalized, they're radicalized, everyone's radicalized...

...but they have tanks and jets, and you have AR-15s. History is littered with the corpses of men who thought determination could beat superior firepower.

I've had it up to here with people making this dumb fuck argument. Without the already dwindling number of repairmen and steady logistics needed to maintain Military hardware, those Helicopters and Fighter jets become Hundred-million dollar paper weights.

>>515557495
>You can easily put up a fight with any military unit who prioritizes “hearts and minds”.
If your government will call IDF for help, you will be doomed

>>515566041
I've never once claimed we'd win. My thesis is that they would win the conflict, but the country would wind up so devastated that it could hardly be counted a victory. It would take as long to recover as it did to get to this point.

>>515557438
it's the lose lose situation for the government

>>515556937 (OP)
The same retards keep using the same old, debunked arguments. Either from Canada or Sweden or France.
Have Jews dominated Sweden?

Let me explain in a way your little brain can understand.

A guy with a gun has the ability to defend himself, a guy without a gun doesn't. It's that simple. Are you retarded enough not to understand that?

Gun laws don't disarm criminals because they don't obey the law. They only disarm law-abiding citizens.

The black market exists and is even cheaper than legal gun ownership, depending on the location.

People don't need guns to kill, they can kill with anything, knives, fists, even stones.

>>515556937 (OP)
Troons don't have Abrams tanks.

>>515556937 (OP)
is that the same government that couldnt put down the floyd riots and considered a bunch of rowdy boomers walking around the capitol building to be pearl harbor 2.0?

>>515556937 (OP)
Drone strike my house and you get 10 more radical nutcases that are worse than I am.

>>515563552
>some retards with a plan,no cellphones and Molotovs can easily cripple multimillion dollar infrastructure and companies/state systems

this is true and the only reason why it doesn't happen is because there's no reason to do so. contrary to "war on terror" propaganda, terrorism in civil society is a one in a trillion black swan event

Tanks can destroy buildings, jets can blow up targets, but they can't take individual homes without collateral.

It's all fine and dandy to tear down infrastructure and go scorched earth on cities when in conflict with another nation because you don't have to rebuild.

Without boots on the ground sufficient to pacify an armed populace without destroying the integrity of the entire economy you'll end up destroying so much that it's not worth the result.

That's the point. It's not to make it impossible to defeat the armed populace, it's to make it too costly to be done.

>>515556937 (OP)
The same way it protected afganistan, they didn't even need AR-15's they did it with AK's

>>515556937 (OP)
Who needs guns? The country of Sweden was destroyed by invading it with niggers.

>>515564559
>korean war was so one sided once the US joined that the south would've won were it not for china spamming more men than the coalition had bullets and McArthur not being allowed to nuke china.
>US was days away from winning in vietnam but war doesn't look good on TV so weak minded retards and fifth columnists protestest and got the US to leave before we could finish what france started. pullout plan blundered by richard nixon because he wanted a political win that badly.
>both times the US invaded iraq it was an absolute slaughter of opposition forces because dune coons cannot into modern warfare.
>the US straight up just left afghanistan despite winning every single engagement because politicians couldn't justify holding the nation together for the resident towelheads anymore. pullout plan was blundered by biden because he wanted a political win that badly.
only one of these conflicts involved guerrilla war you dumb nigger ape. the US has bested every opponent its gone up against, even itself for better or for worse.

>>515566019
>dudes with assault rifles take control
when was the last time that happened? they usually get blown up

>>515556937 (OP)
Tanks, jets nukes and battleships(nonexistent) are operated by people who’s families go to sleep and play Minecraft in our neighborhoods.

>>515556937 (OP)
>lmao gobermunt got plains tenks nooks...
>all yew got iz AR15
>is useless
Cool.
Then you won't care if I own a bunch more
And they will all be select fire
Maybe even get a 30 cal Browning

>>515556937 (OP)
Constitutionally, the United States citizens are to have the same weaponry as the military to prevent the exact scenario in your head from becoming reality

i love pics like OP. like vietnam wasn’t a slog. like fighting sand niggers popping out of crowds of men and women that are dressed just like them. like getting rid of an entire populace without flat out genocide has ever worked. i never as much as shot a BB gun but LMAO at OP.

>>515566576
This is not what the 2nd amendment is about at all. It was drafted before their was a federal standing army, The point was to have armed state militias, responsive to the state governments and capable of defending against the Spanish or the Indians.

>>515556937 (OP)
Yet rice niggers with cut up old tires for sandals and SKS rifles beat that.

>>515556937 (OP)
Do people really not understand the difference between a counterinsurgency and open warfare?

>>515559484
who is this girl?

captcha: sxs 0n

>>515561331
Fire is free and kills everything. I learned this in 2020 when my entire state was on fire and the government did nothing.

>>515556937 (OP)
Sven, please.

>>515556937 (OP)
jets, nukes and battleships can’t guard key infrastructures. it comes down to resources that need to be guarded by men with guns (gas, electrical, ammunition…). guns are effective against bodies

>>515556937 (OP)

If everyone has a assault rifle, and are fed up with the government, all they COULD nuke everyone, but then there would be no need for a government. The government works for the people.

the arm (including the national guard + the marines totals like 1.2m personnel, fewer if you count admin jobs. Population of LA county is nearly 10 million.

The military stands no chance against a *well armed* US population. They would need bioweapons, nukes, etc, and to drastically reduce the population via starvation and disease.

>>515567504
THIS NIGGA TIME TRAVELLIN'! CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE PAST TO EDUCATE US!

>>515556937 (OP)
Jan 6th proved that you can just walk in

>>515556937 (OP)
Easy. Two things.
>exist where the people with those ordinance is. they will end up bombing themselves
>shoot the people with the ordinance and their supporters

>>515556937 (OP)
idk but it is enough to protect Chicago from the feds apparently

>>515556937 (OP)
that picture is missing a disgruntled troon (or muslim/brown person if you're in europe)

>>515556937 (OP)
Those pilots have moms. They can't keep all the moms safe.

>>515558475
This was Chat GPT 2.0 before the homosexual jew Sam Altman ordered it lobotomized

I'm more concerned about democrats and illegals.

>>515557944
Came here to post this.

>>515566041
>they have tanks and jets
and they would have nobody to fuel them up, nobody to make replacement parts, nobody to keep the war machine going. you keep saying not to use vietnam/afghan as a rubric and you're right, neither of those had opposition at home that could sabotage all the critical infrastructure that kept the american war machine going, yet the american war machine STILL lost. One well placed bullet out of one civilian gun (out of 400 million in the country) can take out city-scale power grids, can shut down refineries and starve entire tank battalions of fuel. you really think nobody will make that shot? you think there are enough loyalists to put boots on the ground and secure every piece of critical infrastructure in the 3+ million square miles that make up our country? I think you are a sorely mistaken.

>>515556937 (OP)
you need infantry to keep territory which is why the yanks wont attack Iran coz of mountains rendering their tanks useless

next question glowie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8onBQy2yMg

>>515567813
AYO

>>515565666
What point?

>we're evil, nigga
Great point. They do everything in their power to frame themselves as the good guys. Just to piss that away. Smart.

Because an insurrection can very quickly overthrow centers of power. Jan 6th was a joke, but it did show how fragile they were. Same a while back with the yellow vest in France.
Same throughout history. "Why do you care about the Nikka riot, justinian has all the themes of anatolia".
All insurrection were concentrated violence in cities that overthrew the centers of power before the mass mobilization of the army (which is also conflicted). This take is peak midwit.

>>515565699
Yeah and they are the ones that pride themselves on being "artists". Kek

>>515565666
Good luck getting your armed forces to fire on your own, satan.

>>515556937 (OP)
Considering the USA hasn't won a war since WW2, pretty good.
We also dont have the raw materials like metal to make weapons. We more than likely only have 10-15% of our missiles left

>>515568686
>your own
The foreign legions won't think of the real Brits as "their own."

You can always checkmate them.

>>515556937 (OP)
lowest IQ in Sweden
and there are Somalis in Sweden.

>>515556937 (OP)
>Tell me-
Okay.

I neither condone nor encourage violence against any person or ideology

>>515557447
It's crazy americans think like this. The absolute state of low IQ retards who's only reason for having a gun as stated in this post, is murdering innocent people who have tangible connections to others they don't like.
Americans are the niggers of the white race.

>>515556937 (OP)
That's nice (((anon))).
Seriously though, can we see the epstein list now?

Anyone else experience the most extreme de ja vu when they clicked onto this thread? It hit me hard, I even closed my eyes and predicted the next three posts I read. This was not normal de ja vu

>>515568296
>Jan 6th was a joke
If a mob of unarmed boomers can ACCIDENTALLY almost overthrow the government, imagine what a thousand times more fighting aged men with weapons and training are capable of
>>515568187
>3+ million square miles that make up our country
I fucking DARE the bong to find a route that’s this long, barely crosses one state line, and only touches two or three cities a foreigner would recognize

>>515569937
Its a jew behind a vpn

>>515556937 (OP)
Do you think a government is going to quell a rebellion by dropping a nuke on its own towns and cities? Then there would be nothing left to govern and tax

Try sending in military into an armed neighbourhood with lots of houses where you made everyone your enemy. It won't be Falluja or Gaza. Then if you where a politician, realise that you now can't go anywhere without taking the risk of being assassinated but you instead have to stay fortified all of the time. Strength is in numbers; armed numbers. Unless off course you're completely bonkers and blow up everything including yourself.

>>515565169
And then Wyoming hillbillies will start shooting transformers in every city they can get to and watch you fucks eat yourselves.
Fun fun fun

>>515556937 (OP)
Are you saying the government is willing to use tanks and fighter jets against its own civilian population?
Kind of seems like a reason a civilian needs to be armed....

>>515556937 (OP)
The have jet and tanks and bombs?
Just remember
They have moms.

>>515556937 (OP)
It's all so tiresome.

>>515559058
See current war in eastern Europe retard. Flat land and Russia has tanks and Air...how is that working out? Also in all their leaked sims half the Military Sides with their faction & shocker; "rightiods" with token Military defection Go full Franco -Pinochet & clean house. Do it faggots. To be a more green jew/commie purge, instead of throwing you faggots from choppers ( whoo those avgas prices); We trample you with Horse & Chariot :Roman old School style. No in real life

>>515556937 (OP)
killing the politicians, businessmen and families who support the tyrannical government?
duh

>>515556937 (OP)
This has been answered many, many years ago. It's not about "winning" in a head to head fight against the US govt. It's about deterrence; an armed resistance would require the government to kill a vast number of people which would be fatally destabilizing. An unarmed population is basically the UK, though tbf the US seems to be following behind.

>>515571658
>Are you saying the government is willing to use tanks and fighter jets against its own civilian population?
Are you implying they wouldnt if the threat was genuine. They absolutely would. You're under their thumb and the constitution isnt fit for purpose.
>Kind of seems like a reason a civilian needs to be armed....
1) You're all scared to use them. Has a shot even been fired in anger since the constitution was created. There are numerous examples of your unwillingness to form militias, as the constitution refers. 2) Imagine using a pea shooter against a tank 3) They've got a stranglehold on society you will not break free from, with or without a gun. Again, we've seen this numerous times as well.

>>515556937 (OP)
Tanks and planes will be useless in a modern civil war. It would be impossible to use them without causing so much collateral damage that you lose all support.

>>515561175
>And then the next time a hundred cops are sent into a neighbourhood, all the rebels keep their heads down, because they saw what happened to the last lot that tried that. Then they have to get rid of their weapons because the government can search houses at will and they'll be arrested.
I feel like if the bullets and bombs have already been flying, you're way, way past the point of anyone caring about something like a house-search and an arrest.

>>515559352
>conflicts where public opinion, both international and domestic, are far more important than actually winning battles and accomplishing overall strategic goals
yeah because domestic opinion wouldn't matter AT ALL in a war where you have to convince the military to fire upon their fellow countrymen and bomb their own nation
the british flag tells it all, you're a retarded government bootlicker, hopefully your government outlaws shitposting altogether so we no longer have to put up with this nonsense

>>515556937 (OP)
Ask the Vietnamese and Afghani

>>515574525
You are such a retard it’s actually hilarious. It’s not about shooting the tank to stop it, the actual conflict is stopping the guy who’s biking around the countryside disabling substations and comms arrays and refineries before he finds out where the tank driver’s family lives and gives them the Godfather treatment, also there’s thousands of these guys and the “countryside” is more like an untamed wilderness where you can go for 50 miles in the same direction and not encounter another soul the whole time
Americans have done plenty of shit, it just doesn’t make the news because something like the Bundy Ranch standoff isn’t that exciting all things considered. Our guns are used as threats, don’t fuck around and there won’t be problems. Take the peaceful option off the table, go gloves off KGB openly disappearing people mode and see what happens

>>515556937 (OP)
>Afghanistan multiple times, Vietnam
Also any enemy tot he American people both foreign and domestic would have a nightmare fight on their hands due to such a heavily armed populace
>>515574207
this

>God Bless 2a
>God Bless Castle Doctrine
>God Bless Stand your Ground
>God Bless Liberty

>>515557447
>Where do the people that operate that equipment live?
Secure military bases surrounded by miles of sensors and high-tech ISR
>Where do their loved ones live?
Secure military bases surrounded by miles of sensors and high-tech ISR
>What companies supply the military?
Companies at secure military bases surrounded by miles of sensors and high-tech ISR
>Who works for them?
Military personnel and traitors
>Where do their loved ones live?
Secure military bases surrounded by miles of sensors and high-tech ISR
>Where do the elected officials that gave the orders live?
Secure military bases surrounded by miles of sensors and high-tech ISR
>Where do their loved ones live?
Secure military bases surrounded by miles of sensors and high-tech ISR

>>515556937 (OP)
Historically, a government's greatest weakness is that it is made of people. Once Palantir figures out our AI overlord we won't have to worry any longer.

>>515556937 (OP)
It protects you from draft enforcers and allows for random Luigis to exist.

>>515556937 (OP)
Did you think that if a government is dropping warheads on its own citizens that maybe they are the bad guys?

>>515556937 (OP)
The US military has lost every war it ever fought against armed civilian insurgents. Vietnam, Afghanistan. There is no way to ever beat armed civilian populations.

>>515561175
Yes, then the family of the military men gets tiger kidnapped and burnt alive or kneecapped at best

>>515576623
>There is no way to ever beat armed civilian populations.
There is, just ask the Nazis. Execute 1000 civilians for every soldier that dies.

>>515556937 (OP)
They lost to goat herders and rice farmers with AK 47s this argument is retarded

>>515556937 (OP)
>the Swede is still at it
>200+ replies again
Incredible. I bow to you master. Teach me your shitposting ways.

>>515564694
>throughout history guerrillas usually lose
laughs in taliban, vietcong, and every other insurgency in the past century

>>515558799
this. anyone disagreeing is a bootlicking shill.

>>515564694
Excellent post, yank seethe in replies is palpable

>>515576623
>There is no way to ever beat armed civilian populations.
You're comparing apples to oranges in all regards. Its a bizarre and wild comparison that is delusional

>>515576139
Do these secure military bases generate their own electricity on site?
Do these secure military bases drill and refine their own fuel on site?
Do these secure military bases mine and smelt metals on site?
Do these secure military bases process these metals into weaponry and needed parts on site?
Do these secure military bases grow their own food?
Do these secure military bases have their own fresh water supply they can guarantee isn’t fucked with?
>>515576974
I like how he casually didn’t forgot the IRA existed. Maybe it’s a traumatic time

>>515557438
kek

>>515556937 (OP)
Biden also addressed that long time ago.

This argument is an appeal to cowardice, something liberals are certainly familiar with.

>>515556937 (OP)
not sure if baiting but I had to clarify this for another Eurofriend on another platform today.
Anon, the officers and peoples piloting drone, choppes, mechs, tanks, missile launcher etc, they all have families, and the military is not a monolith, when shit hits the fans, people will know where each of these government slaves live and kill them all or take them hostages. With a bunch of AR-15s.

>>515558799
Thank you. I was ashamed I somehow lost this image, as it's legitimately incredibly important now more than ever.
My aussie friends keep getting cucked so hard, and also UK, and they flat out don't comprehend why having guns matters.

>>515577273
>he casually DID forget the IRA existed
sorry can’t into grammar today
>>515576727
What do you do when the civilians are better armed than the soldiers? Remember: there’s more guns than people here and it’s amazing

>>515576727
Nazis banned guns before they started killing civilians. They also specifically banned Jews from owning guns before they started rounding them up. That's why you never give up your guns.

>>515576118
That little speech of yours was unnecessarily long winded. You've typed a lot without saying anything at all.

>Americans have done plenty of shit
No, you do nothing

Because
>Our guns are used as threats, don’t fuck around and there won’t be problems.
People do fuck around, the government does fuck around and you don't do shit. There are problems, there has been problems, and you won't do shit. "Billy Bob was popping niggers during katrina dude". A drop in the ocean

You're under the thumb of the government and you wont do fucking shit, you've never done shit since the constitution was written

>>515577266
>comparing civilians with guns to civilians to guns
Which is the apple citizen with a gun and the orange citizen with a gun?

>>515556937 (OP)
Ask the IRA. Once they went after the banks Sinn Fein was recognized as a legitimate political party within a month. It’s not about winning, it’s about not being caught.

>>515557447
This schizo thinks he can do all of these lmfao.
You have to get off your mobility scooter first fatso

>>515576974
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_guerrilla_movements

As I said elsewhere, guerrillas generally aren't very effective, it's just that Americans only remember the wars America fights in, and America in particular sucks at fighting guerrillas.

However, the reasons America sucks at fighting guerrillas - bad at making local contacts, unwillingness to cause civilian casualties, will just go home if their own casualties go above a few thousand - would not apply in the event of a civil war.

>>515556937 (OP)
Imagine thinking this is an original thought instead of a sad old meme that got deboooooooonked.

>>515567933
mm if the glowies leave the gates open

check out what the ODNI has to say on the subject

also the pipe bomb video

>>515556937 (OP)
Vietcong won with AKs and shit covered bamboo spike traps

>>515556937 (OP)
The laws against owning those should be repealed too. Constitutionally they are allowed.

This retard in the thread mentioning americans in the same breath as taliban and vietcong is probably the most retarded thing i've read on pol all year. Its absolutely laughable

>>515556937 (OP)
this meme is thought up by someone with no understanding of how wars work

>>515571709
kek

yes but you only need to hear the truth ones

they think if they repeat the same bs 1000 times it'll work

which it doesn't it just makes people hate them

>>515578432
London is minority white British

>>515556937 (OP)
well you dont shoot the tanks and battleships with your rifle but the people who would send such. retard.

>>515556937 (OP)
how many more threads are you going to make about this you fucking rat?

>>515578667
London? Half your fucking 52 states are white minority and the rest are well on there way lmao

>>515557768
why do they get to have all the fun

>>515576118
besides the point is to have a militia so you're allowed recoilless anti tank rifles as well

don't give them an inch

picrel glowie that tried to take the kiwi's guns

>>515578432
The larger point is you actually can’t indefinitely occupy a territory with tanks and jets. As soon as they leave the area it reverts back to local control.

>>515568005
>homosexual jew
obligatory

>>515577891
>What do you do when the civilians are better armed than the soldiers?
The civilians are not better armed than the soldiers. Your uncle's collection of 1000 guns does not make him 1000 soldiers.

>>515577922
That's a myth. Jews were like 1% of Germany, do you really think anything Jews did would've made a difference? The Nazis would have loved organized Jewish militias to start killing people.

>>515578985
The US government wouldnt use those tactics and wouldnt need to.

>>515578016
>"Billy Bob was popping niggers during katrina dude". A drop in the ocean
but then fag says:
>You're under the thumb of the government and you wont do fucking shit
just a drop in the ocean faggot, lol you ass mad queer no one is going to kill for you cry harder

>>515558799
I remember spamming that retarded horsey cartoon so much I got my entire county range b&.....kek. sorry bros but newfags just kept taking the bait

>>515556937 (OP)
They can't do anything. Trump sent federal forces into California and all of the 2nd amendment conservatives keeps it shut because they know nothing really can be done against tyrannical government.

>>515557768
its like retards first day at debate.
here's a hit: you've have to be a complete bone head to want only government employees to have the ability to inflict violence.

>>515558475
/thread

>>515579413
>1% of Germany
Every revolution in history that involved 3% or more of the people was successful in overthrowing the government. That's all it takes and they don't want you to know that.

>>515578016
>No, you do nothing
Take a closer look at my posts. You’ll see a flag on there. Is it yours? We absolutely do things, you just don’t see it because what actually happens here is quite boring
>the government does fuck around and it either doesn’t affect us or we wait a couple years for the court to rule it unconstitutional
fixed that line right up for you. By the way can I ask why you haven’t talked about the IRA at all? Is it because its existence blows your ideas out of the water?
>>515578432
>>515578985
Our population density in the east is like europoor’s “rural” areas. In the west we have Russian taiga tier sparseness in places. How do tanks and jets secure that!

>>515579416
It’ll take more than that.

>>515574525
>bong explaining the impotence of the American people
to be fair, he is an expert

>>515568187
>and they would have nobody to fuel them up, nobody to make replacement parts, nobody to keep the war machine going.
You talk like it would be everyone vs. the military.

In any plausible civil war scenario, if the military sides with the government than a big chunk of the civilian populace does as well. I mean seriously, in what reality do you think someone from suburban Los Angeles is going to team up with someone from rural Alabama to fight the government? Whichever one the government is going after, the other will be more than happy to help.

>One well placed bullet out of one civilian gun (out of 400 million in the country) can take out city-scale power grids
lol, someone's had too much copypasta in their diet.

Sure, there would be disruption in the early stages of an insurgency, but the kind that would be inconvenient rather than crippling. I mean, look at the Russia-Ukraine war. The Russians have been pounding the Ukrainian electrical grid constantly with drones and missiles and sure, it's caused outages, but the grid is quickly brought back online. They've made life a little tougher for Ukraine's civilians but they haven't seriously impacted Ukraine's military capacity, which is what really matters.

It's a common thread running through most armchair militiamen that they think they're going to go to a war footing while the government is just going to carry on as if it's business as usual with a few of their soldiers playing cat and mouse with the brave revolutionaries. In reality, the government is not going to just leave everything as it was before the war started. When infrastructure is taken out by one guy with a rifle it'll get replaced by something more resilient, and better guarded. If you had a highly organised insurgency that strikes first while the government is still getting its shit together then maybe you could do some meaningful damage that way, but one guy with a .50 cal is not going to bring an entire tank division to a halt.

>>515559346
Korea, Iraq, arguably Libya or wherever Gaddafi was

>>515579438
You're a country of what, 600m? Are you suggesting billy bob sniping 5 niggers isnt a drop in the ocean? There are trannies with higher body counts than that. Where was he during capitol and blm? Why isnt he on the border? Where was he during covid? Is he a one man army? Where are the others?. What did killing 5 niggers actually do? You lost rights if anything and you fucking took it like the beta bitches you are. The stranglehold tightened and you didnt do fucking shit

>>515556937 (OP)
Aren't we like 12 hours away from anl successful assassination of a public figure? That's probably what a civil war would look like, over and over again

>>515559346
It's not really the military that's incompetent. Well, they are, but they'd still win if they weren't hamstrung by politicians. Pic related.

>>515579948
>The stranglehold tightened and you didnt do fucking shit
And you still live in the UK.

>>515556937 (OP)
Tell that to the Vietcong

>>515579567
Why do you obey the law?

>>515580513
Americans are under the thumb of the government, and so are the British. So what are you implying and why are you implying it when the thread is about the US. Let go of your ego and get those two brain cells rubbing together

>>515564058
All you need is a cordless angle grinder and maybe a spare blade and battery pack, insulated gloves, and a bolt cutter.

>>515581038
>he says, while arguing in a 2A thread

>>515580513
It's a prison island, you think other countries just let anybody from the UK move there or something? Where else can go? Even being a multi-millionaire is insufficient to get a visa to most countries. Do we have to move to Thailand or something? Why should we do that rather than staying and trying to fix what we can in our ancestral homeland?

>herp derp youre being strangled and controlled so why dont you magically just exist elsewhere in a place that isnt controlled checkmate

Thanks great advice there

>>515564694
The IRA were probably bought off after Mountbatten. They only went for soft targets afterwards.

>>515561175
>actually use their numbers
Why are you acting like an american insurgency would need swarm tactics? A lone gunman can take a shot and disappear, over and over and over again. You can't protect every local politician, judge, prosecutor, teacher, professor, cop, journalist, etc etc etc. You can't even put a cop on every street corner and how would you protect them even if you could? The more you send out on patrol, the more target rich the environment is for the insurgents.
>a hundred soldiers are sent into a neighbourhood to raid a suspected rebel stash house
A stash house? Bitch, every based american is armed to the teeth, we don't need communal armories. Those retards will go raid a house, get shot at from some random angle and shid their pants and call for CAS while doing absolutely nothing until more dudes show up and the dude/dudes that took a shot at them disappears like a fart in the wind.
>all the rebels keep their heads down, because they saw what happened to the last lot that tried that
A single man with a backhoe can take out the water supply to an entire city. One dude can derail a train. You have any idea how VAST the US is? The US military couldn't handle the fucking vietkong, how are they going to handle an insurgency from coast to fucking coast while their infrastructure is constantly under attack. Good luck fueling those planes that would have to base out of fucking canada to stay safe on the ground, when the bridges are gone and the trains are derailed. You think fragging was prolific during vietnam? How bad you think it'll be when you're ordering americans to murder americans? Godspeed worthless zogbot puppet conscript who has never touched a gun being sent to die in one of the mountain ranges in america after having been giving six whole days of weapons training.

>>515558833
do you realize that the entire worlds military combined couldn't stop even a hundred thousand people from shutting down critical infrastructure? there's literally single chokepoints on our interstates that would cause entire cities to fall into panic and then starvation-fueled cannibalism within a week

>>515579606
In 2020 Belarus protests 14% of people were out trying to overthrow Lukashenko government.
Also in Syrians were pretty unsuccessful in overthrowing Assad for a long time. There are many examples in Africa too.

>>515581354
but anon Americans don’t do shit, this is why the bongs have DPRK-tier internet surveillance and we don’t (yet?)

>>515577273
>Do these secure military bases generate their own electricity on site?
Yes, military bases are built around all resource-rich and critical areas.
>Do these secure military bases drill and refine their own fuel on site?
Yes, military bases are built around all resource-rich and critical areas.
>Do these secure military bases mine and smelt metals on site?
Yes, military bases are built around all resource-rich and critical areas.
>Do these secure military bases process these metals into weaponry and needed parts on site?
Yes, military bases are built around all resource-rich and critical areas.
>Do these secure military bases grow their own food?
Yes
>Do these secure military bases have their own fresh water supply they can guarantee isn’t fucked with?
Yes

>>515556937 (OP)
do you realize that in 2014 Strelkov single handedly created two states in Donbass (DNR and LNR) with 50 people armed with kalashnikovs?

>>515581770
>built around
So no, they don't generate their own power, they get it from nearby.

>>515556937 (OP)
needs more jpeg

>>515556937 (OP)
Yeah and it's going to be the pro-Israeli government military aligned with the united Right that is going to be massacring the hordes of commie revolutionaries and niggers.
Left-wing commies and niggers have to realize that they're being set up to be the mass blood sacrifice for the Masonic New World Order.

Albert Pike, 33rd degree Freemason 1871-
"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil."
"Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization"

It's incredibly obvious how they're setting this up now. And honestly, I'm sorry to say that it's probably going to work cause as a neutral civilian that just wants to be left alone, the Left with they're pro-criminal stances do need to be put down like rabid dogs. I'm not gonna have any choice but to be with the pro-israeli army and right wingers when the time comes.

>>515581571
in other words, it's not about beating the military in combat. that's retarded. it's about doing enough damage to supply lines and critical infrastructure to force negotiations, collapse, etc.

>>515581792
no he didn't know because he doesn't know anything or he wouldn't be posting such rubbish online

thanks for sharing however really interesting

>>515561175
>What do you think happens then?
Insurgency that disappears back into the populace.

>the government will respond with reprisals and making an example of neighborhoods
And that will create more insurgents. And insurgents are expensive, they sap resources from the State, they pull off assassinations, they make everything harder.
And they never go away, not so long as there are guns for them to use to fight, not even if you have a hundred years; look at Africa, those insurgent militias will NEVER go away until the hypothetical tyrannical government does.

>>515576667
Yeah, I remember you people doing that kind of thing during the Troubles. How did that work out for you? Have you reunited Ireland yet? Are the IRA still fighting the good fight?

>>515578985
see >>515561175

The tanks, jets and planes aren't just for intimidation. Ground forces go in on foot. They are there to search and secure. The insurgents have to either abandon their weapons and equipment, or fight. If they choose to fight, they'll probably take out a few of the footsoldiers. But now that they've revealed themselves, the tanks, jets and planes have a target. Bye bye insurgents. Rinse and repeat in every city.

Insurgents can't just melt away indefinitely. The only reason that worked for insurgents in Vietnam and Afghanistan was because they could run back across a border that the US wouldn't cross (Vietcong to North Vietnam, Taliban to Pakistan). Even assuming that American insurgents would have anyone in Mexico or Canada willing to take them in (unlikely, they hate you), there would be nothing to stop government forces going after them. It was the threat of WW3 that kept the US out of North Vietnam, and Afghanistan just wasn't important enough for it to be worth the political fallout of invading Pakistan. Neither of those would apply in a civil war.

>>515581994
yup and economical migrants

hm free gibs worth thousands every year

sounds to good to be true

because it is

didn't fucking read hansel and gretel did you

yes lets follow the friendly merchant to magical paradise europe where you have free everything

...

>>515556937 (OP)
the same way the taliban protected themselves from biden with rusty AKs and F-150s

>>515556937 (OP)

The government won't launch strikes on its own citizens you idiot. In a globalized world, a government that harms its own population would have its ass pounded from several nations. Yes, this applies even to the most powerful government in the world.

Easy, soldiers have to eat and sleep and go on patrol. They have warehouses with supplies. The officers and enlisted have friends and family. Last time I checked bullets could take them all down. Could you imagine having to occupy america with 100,000,000 guns iut there. Any bullet could kill you or your family and friends. Imagine iraq on steroids.

>>515581770
Everything I described has to be within the secure boundary for the boundary to be effective in the slightest against siege tactics. Tell me where on earth, nevermind just the US, you can get 50 square miles that has all of the following
>enough arable land to feed everyone on base in perpetuity
>a fresh water supply that does not come from a river whose upstream is outside of the secure area
>iron and copper ore deposits in addition to every other metal you’ll need
>a goddamn semiconductor refinery and processing facility (you forgot everything’s computerized now?)
>enough oil to fuel a military’s worth of vehicles and power consumption
Remember, EVERY base needs these and the US would require hundreds, if not thousands, of bases to police effectively. Also do the families of the soldiers ever leave? Sounds pretty demoralizing for them especially if friends were on the outside getting KGB.SU’d
>>515582355
What’s your strategy for dealing with Tom? Genuinely curious

>>515556937 (OP)
Nigger

>>515581747
>DPRK-tier internet surveillance and we don’t (yet?)
Won't do much good when the powergrid is down. Never seen a utility worker with blue hair... Besides, they'll be too busy with the 50 million starving niggers who decided to go back to their cannibalistic roots when they figure out white liberals are made of meat...and they're the only city dwellers who own guns.

>>515556937 (OP)
The military? At this point I'm more worried about Commie troons and Niggers

>>515584554
>Won't do much good when the powergrid is down
That’s my point that the eurostanis don’t understand. All the fancy shit they’re talking about are useless hunks of metal unless the power grid is non-sabotaged and oil refining continues as normal

>>515556937 (OP)
It worked for the Mujaheddin against the Russians. It worked for Al Qaeda and the Taliban against us. It worked for malnourished rice farmers in Vietnam.

>>515557768
Because guns are fun and it makes faggots like you seethe.

>>515558833
Oh dam I forgot the part where Syria had active members in that said military that could mutiny and turn around and stab their commanding officers in the neck for being American killing tyrants. STFU fagmason glowie you tyrants won't escape judgment and Hell.

>>515556937 (OP)
USA couldn't beat afganistani goat herders so how would they beat every american with a gun?

Why does this ancient pasta always get like 300 replies?

>>515556937 (OP)
you're right it doesn't make sense, tanks, jets, nukes, and battleships should all be available for purchase and public use in order to level the playing field

>>515556937 (OP)
Lefties are retarded. The military was beat by ieds and also. Any major civil war level rebellion will soon be backed by interested foreign parties (see Spanish civil war).

>>515556937 (OP)
Numbers. If you declare war on your own people then it is the army and their supporters vs everyone else, which means fighting millions of armed people spread out all over the country. The government declaring war on it's citizens means laws are invalid, which means supply lines are getting cut, entire cities will be fortified, all major infrastructure will be targeted or occupied, what exactly do you do about that?
In reality, if it comes to that you have exactly 1 shot at scaring the population into compliance by using the big guns, and if it fails, or worse if it backfires and just further angers everyone you'll either lose or be left with no nation left to rule because you bombed it all to shit. And THEN the foreign powers just invade with no resistance, so really your choices are losing and getting killed by the population, or losing and becoming Chinese territory.

>>515556937 (OP)
because retards kept saying "muh 2nd amendment means i get my gun at walmart hurr" instead of the chad position that every state needs its own trained millitia to protect their land. the articles of confederation clearly stated " but every state shall always keep up a well regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutred, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of field pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition, and camp equipage."
each state is supposed to be ready to fucking chimp out and protect itself from the fed, gavin having fucking federal troops in his state surrounding his location during his speech threatening citizens of california is the biggest spit in the face of the founders of the nation and it would be the time for 2nd amendment supporters to say hey get the fuck out of our state, and use state militia to tell the feds to fuck off.

>>515584845
There's also the fact 52% of democrats said they'd flee the country in the case of a war on US soil. Not that it would matter with the metric shitload of defections from the US military. Their foreign invaders would abandon them the moment the shooting started as well. I doubt zog could mobilize fast enough to get eurotrash conscripts onto US soil in enough numbers to make a difference since their standing armies are pitiful and they'd likely have nothing to equip the draftees with since US production would be practically nil.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us03072022_ujca44.pdf

I don’t see drug niggers in Baltimore getting vaporized by tanks and nukes, but maybe they only care about organized whypipo

>>515556937 (OP)
The bankers and politicians aren't in the jets.

>>515556937 (OP)
Don't people have drones now?

>>515564151
interesting video. thanks

>>515561175
Go back to work mi5 bot

>>515561313
You can buy it from home depot lol. Crops aren't magic anything that isn't killed by round up will be killed by the other major ground clearing chemical. Or just simpling making fire bombs and burning it down during the dry part of the year prior to harvest.

>>515586561
>I don’t see drug niggers in Baltimore getting vaporized by tanks and nukes, but maybe they only care about organized whypipo
Crime is used by the government to pacify the tax payers. They pledge protection from the mess they themselves made. If it wasn't for inner city crime, our cities would have very different priorities and very different leaders.

>>515586713
The moment the SHTF they'd board their private jets, fly to the safest country they're allowed into and rule remotely like biden did from the basement.

>>515587188
>killed by the other major ground clearing chemical
Plants crave road salt. It has electrolytes.

>>515557877
Everyone saw the cowards run like dogs from Afghanistan

>>515563117
The US police state functions through most people following the law so finite resources can be dedicated to higher priorities. Even a nigga or antifa chimpout is enough to overload that capacity so I doubt any of this infrastructure will still be functional even with a tiny armed resistance.

For your example, the US can barely employ stationary automatic speed traps, no way are any of these camera surviving even the first few days of an armed uprising.

>>515556937 (OP)
The state will never use these to annihilate their slaves and leech like a parasite with taxes.

A good virus doesn't kill, it spreads.

>>515556937 (OP)
The government is so afraid of a man with a rifle they have to bring an attack helicopter to get him?

>>515559352
Lol. The faggots could not even force vaxxine mandates.

>>515587250
Remember when congress shit their pants and ran away through their underground tunnel with bags on their heads over people walking around in the building?