Thread 515566574

Chuds, we need to be honest with ourselves. Did the founding fathers really intend for any dude to just be able to walk into a store, grab a rifle to assassinate someone or go on a killing spree.

What am I supposed to tell my wife? My children?

guns are for shooting crazy shitskins as you settle across the country

>>515566574 (OP)
>intend
no because the expected to have a white lead nation of landowners
they never intended for niggers to have rights

>>515566574 (OP)
Only white land owning men of good moral character and behavior. The killer was a tranny so wasn't a man and likely didn't own land

>>515566574 (OP)
No they planned on people having to get certified as expert tyranny presenters.

>>515566574 (OP)
Most of our early Navy was made up of privateers that owned a dozen cannons that could have easily leveled a town. Get real.

>>515566574 (OP)
You may find this hard to believe but in 1776 stores did exist. I know, right? Crazy. You could even buy guns in them!

>>515567132
They also never intended for women or poorfag leftists to have a vote

>>515566574 (OP)
No. They intended that right to be for white men only especially not ones that pretend to be women.

>>515566574 (OP)
all of my arms manufacturing friends are stoked as hell to give gift grant entrust etc etc etc as many weapons as they possibly can out to as many kinfolk as they possibly will

>>515567949
Don't be silly. Jesus descended from heaven and armed the colonists.

>>515566574 (OP)
Not "any" dude as others have amply noted. But yeah. They did mean for citizens to be able to buy or make their own firearms without interference or oversight.

You tell your wife and kids that this was never ment to be a diverse or pluralistic society and to never relax around blacks.

>>515566574 (OP)
when the founding fathers wrote the constitution they had know idea people like (you) would exist

>>515566574 (OP)
mm hand over the guns to the nice commissar for your own safety

>>515566574 (OP)
>Did the founding fathers really intend for any dude to just be able to walk into a store, grab a rifle
thomas jefferson said no free man shall be debarred the use of arms meaning if i cant trust you with a gun you should be dead in prison or not in my country. tench coxe wrote that the sword and every other terrible implement of the soldier is the birthright of every american. maybe you need to fuck off to china nigger.

>to assassinate someone or go on a killing spree.
why this disconnect faggot, no, obviously not, they were men of order and law and process and decorum, why this foolish vestigal verbal appendage? we both know why dont we shill nigger...kys faggot.

FF were based even though they were freemason faggots

Founding Fathers called for a "well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Random assholes with guns are not a militia.

Nor well-regulated.

In fact pretty much anyone who isn't a wannabe murder is very, VERY much pro-"regulated" part.

Reasonable gun laws are perfectly valid for Constitutional purposes, due to the "WELL REGULATED" phrasing that most gun chuds absolutely ignore.

Guns were also not nearly as deadly as they are now. Machine guns used to be artillery pieces, not small enough to fit in a suitcase or underneath someone's jacket.

>>515566574 (OP)
No, the founding fathers never intended you to reproduce.

>>515566574 (OP)

It's insane that non-whites are allowed to walk around and carry weapons in White lands.
Not once in history of mankind before the jewish infiltration of White countries, has there been a time where foreign tribes have been allowed to walk in your tribal lands armed.
Not even in time of swords, a foreigner could not come carrying a sword into your nation.
Let alone with firearms, its INSANITY and only due to JEWISH influence this is allowed to happen.

It's actually a jewish argument that 2A should retroactively apply to non-whites because normally laws never retroactively apply, thats insanity

See when 2A was signed into law a "citizen" meant a "free white person of good moral character".
So when the jews changed the definition of citizen to include nonwhites like them, it doesnt mean that 2A would retroactively change to apply to nonwhites too

Therefore it is unconstitutional for any non-white persons to carry weapons.
And it doesn't make ANY sense consider going back in time telling the founding fathers that hey btw in couple of hundred years 2A will be used by foreign tribes carrying weapons on the White tribe's lands i.e. inside the White country that is USA.
They would laugh and say that is fucking ridiculous we clearly vote "citizen" here and "citizen" is a "free WHITE person" so how the fuck would nonwhites be terrorizing and murdering people. If coons are seen carrying guns, fire at will.

>>515569301
I think this settles it.
Americans should only be able to own guns, if they are part of a new kind of militia organisation, and the state has no right to stop them forming and organising.

You would have town militia where every able bodied man is taught to use a gun and trained correctly and protects the town.

Gun owners go on a roster this way but only the local council/militia has access to it, not the state or federal government unless warrants are assigned.

This would be FAR more useful than the current random people owning guns shit that happens. It means you get a friendly yakuza situation where corrupt city councils and politicians can't hold power because local gun group can threaten them. Local gangs of hoodrats don't form because local militia will stomp them out in the beginnings.

>>515569301
Yeah the idea of 2A was not to keep niggers and jews off your lawn, it was to keep them off you GOVERNMENT.
They didn't envision a situation where you'd need to use a firearm to protect against the members of your own society - your own tribe.
Because that is how it was supposed to be, a WHITE ETHNOSTATE.

2A is meant for a situation, let's say that a foreign tribe infiltrated your country and took over its government so it no longer represents the interests of the FREE WHITE MEN.

"it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year" - Probably the founding fathers

>>515566574 (OP)
only citizens have weapons
slaves don't

>>515566574 (OP)
That you want to move to a country that is less free. Go ahead. Get the fuck out

>>515566574 (OP)
America was a wilderness in their time so they saw nothing wrong with folks having guns

>>515570073
back in the day, the english were the enemy
and the english were white and the goberment

>>515570073
I think the NSDAP model for gun policy is a well-rounded one.
First of all, keep all foreign tribes out of the country, and OBVIOUSLY do not allow a foreign, potentially hostile, tribe to own any weapons on your tribal territory.
That is like human history 101, for the entire human history except very recently members of other tribes were obviously not allowed to come in armed to your territory.
For guests, leave their weapons at the border.

Secondly, safe gun ownership practices should be taught. A organization like Hitler Youth that teaches young people how to properly operate firearms, is a good thing.
Also having went through conscription myself, I think a mandatory military service for all males is something that should form the core of any nation.

With these building blocks in place, gun ownership allowed for the members of the nation-state, the tribe only is a given.
And then combination of youth training and military service.

>>515566574 (OP)
Shall not be infringed.
Seethe.

Of course they literally had dueling laws and hung people in public off hearsay

>>515570511
>There weren’t whites who faced the English in the Revolutionary War
It was almost exclusively whites fighting the English including large numbers of Appalachian Freeborn former Irish slaves and all the continental corps were English men who defected to the English men leading the revolt over the King

>>515566574 (OP)
John Adams: 'Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'

This nation just isn't built for godless trannies so their introduction causes issues as a virus to a body

>>515569301
"Well regulated" doesn't mean you get to ignore the "shall not be infringed" part. Why do you always forget that part?

>>515566574 (OP)
yes they did, except they could have never foresaw this America full of niggers walking around or trannyism, they probably never even thought about kikery.

>>515566574 (OP)
Yes.

>>515570654
Extremely based

Hegemony makes for a high trust society, necessary for such laws. As long as the US is divided by race and ethnicity this will persist regardless of what you try to ban. The problem isn't what they're killing with, it's why they're driven to kill

>>515566574 (OP)
Yeah we should "ban guns" because a person planning to do an illegal murder would NEVER dare to obtain a firearm illegally, that's just absurd. Also the government will never become tyrannical and the police will always protect you like Clark kent superman.

>>515566574 (OP)
They certainly did not have violent niggers in mind. They also couldn't possibly imagine that in only 200 years, we'd have previously institutionalized crazies walking around with prominent roles in society, spreading their sickness to others that left is right and up is down.

Land owning whites, married whites with children, and white males who can pass a mental fitness exam only. This is the reasonable gun control we can and should enact. It's the only sensible option if you take emotion out of the equation (impossible ask)

>>515566574 (OP)
You don't have a wife or children, so don't worry about it.

>>515566574 (OP)
>Did the founding fathers really intend for any dude to just be able to walk into a store, grab a rifle to assassinate someone or go on a killing spree.
No. They expected you to have one at home already.

>What am I supposed to tell my wife? My children?
You should probably start by being honest and telling them you're a faggot that would be of absolutely zero use to them if their lives were in danger.

>>515570511
Well it wasn't the English public that was the enemy - they were the people that founded America after all.
It was the kiked elite, the jewish bankers extracting unearned wealth from the citizenry making them poor who were the enemy, and who they wanted to escape.
Problem is that ultimately the jews followed, and now the situation is the same again, except there is no more places to go to found a new nation.
The only solution is what was always the solution - getting rid of the jews and other non whites from White territories. And the Whites that ever worked with the enemy - the jews - of course need to be put against the wall too.

The history of the kikes fucking over Europe and England goes deep, it isn't just Churchill being kiked and destroying Europe because of it, thats just the latest thing.
In fact history with kikes in England goes back to the 11th century and William the Conqueror, pic rel is a quick QRD.

Unlike in the George Floyd case, this case will not have big international repercussion. Because the Great Media is made of shitskins and they hate the White Race.

Don't let her death be in vain, white brothers.

- - - Death of Iryna Zarutska - - -.....

>>515566574 (OP)
Yes. Yes they did. They knew dangerous freedom is superior to safe slavery.

>>515566883
fpbp and /thread lmao

>>515571247
In fact, jews have been expelled from every society they have ever infested, but the slimy rats always come crawling back.
We need to be done with expulsions. They don't hold.

>>515571185
/thread

>>515571365
The thing is that often our ancestors have left in warnings and even laws to not let in the jews, but then a few generations pass and some shabbos lets them in.

For example Norway used to have this in its' CONSTITUTION
>The Evangelical-Lutheran religion is the state's public religion. The inhabitants who practice it are obliged to raise their children in the same. Jesuits and monastic orders must not be tolerated. Jews are excluded from access to the Kingdom.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew_Clause_(Norway)

But ultimately some jews slithered in pretending to be non-jews, and bribed and kvetched and pushed and bribed and kvetched and pushed trying to change the Constitution until they finally got it removed.

Imagine being a Norwegian King drafting a constitution, thinking
>If I put JEWS ARE EXCLUDED FROM ACCESS TO THE KINGDOM, on black and white in the motherfucking constitution, that ought to keep the jews out for posterity, right?!
But what ended up happening instead, pic rel.

Oh ye, don't know the tenacity of those rats and cockroaches in their attempts of coming in as parasites to your country.
Not to forget the over thousand expulsions they've had in Europe, yet they ALWAYS come back. The rats simply don't fuck off and stay away.

When you look at the historical facts, how can anyone even make the argument that its even possible to continue on without killing all the jews?
History CLEARLY shows that they won't leave us Whites alone and they will always attempt to come back in and destroy our shit after couple of generations pass and the living memory of them destroying shit isnt there anymore.

There can't be any other answer to the JQ than total annihilation

>>515566574 (OP)
Yes. That’s exactly what they intended. They wanted the political class to fear the people. The constitution is there for government overreach, not to keep the people in line.

>>515568888
Checked and tactfully weighed sentiment. I'm sick of pretending that the 2nd amendment is for everyone. It is for honorable whites only, and mostly just the men. Good character, decorum, and mentally fit only. Why we cannot enshrine this into law is beyond me.
>Naw let's just let every violent nigger with animal-level IQ's have a chance at firearms too.
Like lel

>>515566574 (OP)
You can tell them goodbye on your way to the prison camp.

>>515566574 (OP)
They had absolutely no idea what the future held. But its also the people's fault for letting it get this bad

>>515569301
Some of what you said merits discussion but then I thought better of it. If you think a musket firing any old sharp silverware you could shove in it is any less dangerous than an automatic rifle of the modern day, you don't actually know anything about guns and therefore shouldn't talk about them or own one.

>>515566574 (OP)
they definitely didn't intend for blacks or women to be able to buy guns so casually, that's for sure
but amerimutts are too attached to muh amendments or whatever to actually see clearly that only a family patriarch should be able to bear guns, and that it should be restricted to a shotgun at most.

And as things stand it's hipocritical to not let the populace actually arm up with useful paramilitary gear like rocket launchers/attack helicopters/armored vehicles yet be able to buy semi auto rifles even if you're a 70 iq nigger. Why? Because ultimately those amendment rights come second to the security of their golem state establishment and not the actual safety of their populace. Just look at homicide rates per capita lol. And before any MIGAtard mutt comes and tries to justify the current state of affairs I wanna laugh in their faces if they think a militia armed with armalite rifles would ever stand up to the might of ZOG. Even the taliban had better gear than they have and they were goat farmers lol. If a resistance movement is to withstand the might of their government they'll get supplies and guns whether or not it's written in some piece of old paper, as has been the case since forever

>>515570654
anon, this makes too much sense
whenever we euros come into these mutt-themed jerkoff threads you'll only get these kinda responses
>>515570464
which honestly makes me happy mutts are the mercy of niggers and mentally ill trannies at any time. They are literally blind retards that immediately confound lefty thinking with rational, well meaning proposals. At their core, they want to live the insurgent power fantasy of fighting against their own golem state but without doing any of the legwork like organising municipal militias and only allowing honest men to bear arms.
To reduce it to a single point, just look at circumcision statistics in the US. Golem state through and through

>>515571599
Yes, exactly. I think the NSDAP gun policies >>515570654, just like most of their other policies, would be a good fit for any White ethnostate.

Non-whites belong out of the country.
Insane Whites belong into aslyums.
Normal Whites can own guns.

Simple as.

>>515566574 (OP)
well to be fair, transgenderism wasn't a thing back then and slaves were not free. so the guns are really meant for normie white people.

>>515574751
>To reduce it to a single point, just look at circumcision statistics in the US. Golem state through and through
This is a very good point. And they claim its because of christianity, even though the bible explicitly forbids christians from circumcision.
In Talmud though, circumcision is used to mark themselves AND their slaves.
These supposedly-christian Americans are literally going against the bible to mark themselves as slaves of the jews. It's insanity on a scale never seen before.

The worst part of it all is though that after they committed the greatest race treason of all time that was WWII and ushered in the jewish clown world and raised jews to power and wealth never seen before, the world jewry now possesses such enormous political power that when countries like Iceland try to do the human thing of banning this batshit-insane shitskin superstitious practice of infant genital mutilation, it can put pressure on the government to not go through with it.

>>515575149
Yeah when 2A was put to law, like said, a "citizen" was a "free white men of good moral character".
It's insane retconning to make the law retroactively apply to also other people that are not free white men of good moral character.
That's not how laws usually work, they don't apply retroactively.

>>515575861
But then again, the jews are the masters of manipulation and rewriting of history.

USA was supposed to be the enclave for White man for his posterity. For "free White men of good moral character" and all.
Until the jews came in pretending to be White and then subverted it all.

Did you know that the "melting pot" is a jewish lie that was first time used not by any founding father but a jewish playwright Israel Zangwill in 1908, in the titular play "Melting Pot" which is a propaganda piece about jewish immigrant slithering into USA?
Or that the Statue of Liberty which was a symbol for the White man's liberty, had a plaque attached to it in 1903 subverting its meaning to be jew-positive instead, talking about how USA is supposedly a country for the "homeless exiles", and even renamed the Statue of Liberty to be the "Mother of Exiles", completely subverting the meaning of the statue to be something that welcomes criminal Jews instead.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus

And the jewish propaganda has been so incredibly successful, that not only White Americans but the entire world now thinks that USA was founded as a "melting pot" and the jewish words on the Statue of Liberty is some founding principle by the founding fathers.
This is how good jews are at propaganda they literally subverted the core ideology of the nation from being a White ethnostate to some melting pot of third worlders.

>>515566574 (OP)
Tell them you were always queer and kill yourself

>>515576032

The major push for allowing non-whites into America started in the 1920s and was finally pushed through with the 1965 Immigration Act, written by a jewish senator Emanuel Celler, and pushed through after decades of lobbying by jewish groups funded by jewish bankers.

I think the starting shot for this push was in 1923.
So, in 1923, before jews removed the White-only immigration laws, there was this Supreme Court case (United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind), where a jeet had slithered into USA and then tried to "we wuz Aryan" so he would not be deported. That was laughed out of court, and they ruled that not only must that jeet be deported immediately but that if there are any jeets in USA that have been accidentally given citizenship, their citizenships must be revoked and them deported immediately too.

They must have seen the writing on the wall that any moment the legislature could have come to the realization that jews are indeed not white, but just pretend to be, exactly like that jeet.
Jews, just like their arab brothers, are in fact middle-eastern sand-people, originally gypsies from India called "Canaanites" or "Kala'ani".

>Alexander conquered the important parts of India in 327 BC, and it was around this time when Aristotle claimed that Jews originated from India as far back as the 4th century BC. “Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calami, and by the Syrians Judaei, and took their name from the country they inhabit, which is called Judea.” Megasthenes (350 BC - 290 BC) recorded the same thing: "The Jews were an Indian tribe or sect called Kalani".

And they've shown a parasitic migratory pattern ever since.

They must have realized that they must destroy the White-only policies, or otherwise the kikes could be deported and stripped of their citizenships just like jeets were, and without the jews and their 1965 immigration act still would be today.

>>515575524
They'll also come up with retroactive excuses for their so called "amendments". Like, for instance, I was arguing with this mutt about this type of stuff and he brough up how the US is such an economic power because of these rules the founding masons set up in 1776. I mentioned how they could only achieve this status of dominance through two actual World Wars (which they financed and instigated btw), but again it's like talking to a wall with these people. Specifically, that roman wall in Israel their presidents so enjoy fondling in their kippahs.
It's never about practical achievements for them mutts, like how their political class doesn't give a single fuck their population is armed and routinely abuses power through corruption to get rich, they'll still come up with shit like this regardless. There's no notion of "shit, maybe we should revise the laws and the constitution if it's ineffective", though granted this an extended issue in the west that also affects european nations.
>>515571506

>>515568936
thats cause freemasonry was previously based, dig more into it

>>515576977
>>515576032
>>515575861
trvkes that will be mandatory reading when generation zyklon takes over these boomerhead institutions

>>515568888
>>515571599

You dumb retards don't understand that the second amendment comes from the natural right of self defense. Women, children and yes even "niggers" have every right to self defense. That means a gang banger in downtown Chicago can buy a 155mm howitzer. The thought is that if so much of the population is so turned towards evil that we can't be trusted to defend ourselves without resorting to assaulting innocents, then we have a God level issue on our hands anyway. If society is so lost we can't be trusted to care for ourselves, then the only solution is Christ coming back.

In fact, human history proves that humanity is peaceful while governments are almost always not. Two people, from distant lands, with no government in the room usually don't automatically resort to murdering one another. You see this truth play out all the time in humanity where explorers made first contact and weren't immediately murdered by the local retards...but later by their government.

Yes, everyone should have access to every terrible instrument of war.

>>515578147
Okay, so nuclear, chemical and biological weapons too?
One guy should be able to own a bomb that can glass Manhattan, or vials of small pox?

The best part about owning lots of arms is I don't have to listen to your opinions. Especially the flags that aren't American flags, you guys can comment on the merits of guns in my society all you want, I don't care, I have a gun in my society. Do something about it ....oh wait, your EU can't even function without the US running NATO for you. Whatever queers.

>>515578147
even neighbors kill each other without govt intervention , conflict will happen all the time for the pettiest bullshit . idk if guns help in that regard, it kind of makes everyone a passive aggressive bitch cause you cant jsut have a good fist fight and be done with it, any fucker can pull a gun and escalate very quick so people are less prone to resolve their issues physically u understand ?

>>515566574 (OP)
>What am I supposed to tell my wife? My children?
just kill them and then kill yourself. this world is done for

>1 post by this ID
>pepe as OP pic
>Dear Fellow White People

>>515566574 (OP)
Do you really want to go there? What would the founding fathers say about trannys and homos? And blacks?

>>515578601
>One guy should be able to own a bomb that can glass Manhattan, or vials of small pox?

They don't call it dangerous liberty for nothing, baby.

>>515578147
alright cool so can I buy tanks with the pooled funds of me and my homies in order to self defend our communities from mossad? Oh? What's that? You cannot do that in the US? Damn, guess i'll buy an AR15 and shoot up a catholic school then I guess since my fed handler told me so kek

>>515566574 (OP)
Considering they had gun stores back then where you could just walk in and buy one directly equivalent to what the current leading militaries used, yeah probably. It was just proportionally more expensive back then

>>515578640
>implying the US/CIA didn't strongarm every single Euro nation into joining NATO
you kikes are truly shameless, enjoy risking niggers shooting you up because they saw whitey bad on the Goyvision

>>515578666

An armed society is a polite society. I wish the whole world were completely disarmed, but so long as any has arms, then we all must have arms.

Society isn't passive aggressive because of guns, society is passive aggressive because people suck by and large...but they don't suck enough to want to to risk dying for their feelings.

That's the thing about dangerous liberty, many people still end up dying. But at least they got to live free and, by and large, fewer people die less horribly than if the government was in charge of everything.

Humanity's natural state is to be in submission to God, but since some refuse that, we must have government to keep them in check. But for those that most closely align with Christ, there is liberty because He is our king guiding us. Of course we don't make a christian nation but that's another story as to why.

>>515580040
>alright cool so can I buy tanks with the pooled funds of me and my homies in order to self defend our communities from mossad

I was saying how things aught to be, not how they are. Yes you should be able yo buy a tank.

>>515580373

Don't get me wrong here, I don't hate any government more than the US government (with Israel being a close second) because the US representatives sold us out to Israel.

I don't think the US should have any treaties with any other nations other than economic treaties. Perhaps in a time of war we enact something to only last so long as hostilities commence, but as Washington clearly said, "No foreign entanglements". I'm sorry my European friends have to live under the US Empire thumb (and by extension, Israel's)

>>515566574 (OP)
If we are going to go there, we'll have to discuss race and religion. One quote mine from one founding father is where the idea of separation of Church and State comes from, which was an idea that wasn't even entertained throughout most of the country until the last 75 years. The founding fathers never intended for this country to be settled by non-Whites (specifically non-Anglos) who ghettoize and form homogeneous colonies within the country. Germanics who were here were essentially forced to Anglicize. That's partially why 50's suburbia was pushed so hard, to break up homogeneous communities of Italian and Irish immigrants and force them to integrate. I'm not an egalitarian "race doesn't matter" type, but that's the divide between conservative and liberal Hispanics. The ones that are culturally Anglicized, and the ones that view themselves as colonists.

>>515580534
problem is you allow any subhuman to weild such power, you are in for bad times. When you work your ass to be better, a 400lb in his walmart cart can shoot you dead. A fucking weakass anorexic woman can shoot you dead. Its the same thing with cars. You give all this power to literal retards. Then wonder why so many die on the road. Nigger you're giving retards access to 4 wheel and 2 tons of steel while they cruise their phones and smoke weed. You dont see the problem with absolute freedom do you. Technology (that includes guns) shouldnt be freely available

>>515566574 (OP)
>Did the founding fathers really intend for any dude to just be able to walk into a store, grab a rifle to assassinate someone or go on a killing spree.
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
no. they intended for healthy, stable white landowning men to take up arms to protect his property and the State against savages (niggers, injuns) and foreign invaders.
mass shooters are just mentally ill edgelords who use the Second Amendment as an excuse to wantonly kill white children.

>>515566574 (OP)
The founding fathers would have started the second civil war in the 90s with Clinton's gun grabbing, let alone the vay marriage and the trannyism that came later.

Muskets were the gun when the founding fathers wrote that document. Revolvers didn't become a thing until just before the Civil War.
So comparing the 2nd amendment and saying that the founding fathers were thinking of the future of weapons is disingenuous

>>515582938

Look I know liberty is scary for you memeflags because your slave mindset won't allow you to consider it, but some of us would rather die on our feet tjab live on our knees.

Rather get double tapped by a fat Walmart golf cart than Pol Potted with my head against a tree by some bootlicker

>>515583443
Gatling guns and cannons existed at the time, and private citizens even owned their own ships loaded with cannons at the time of the Revolution.

>>515583443

This has been so debunked. The founding fathers literally knew about multishot weapons. Also they were talking about the right to self defense, not the items used to do so. Infringe on the 2A and you're saying you don't trust your own citizens that comprise you (the government) anymore. It's any oxy moron.

If the government is the people, but we don't trust the people, then the government has declared it isn't the people....and then the American people by divine right have permission to overthrow it. Any gun law, all gun laws, are proof our government hates us.

Yes.

But, back then, America was propped up, unofficially, by devout Christians. America was a Christian nation. Stores closed on Sundays. Everyone went to Church. People were raised in two parent households. Mothers stayed home and didn't work, to raise the children.

Now, we allowed liberal policies to destroy families, and create mentally ill people. Now they abuse our freedoms.

The solution? Erase all of the 20th century liberal policies.

>>515566574 (OP)
Yes, people were allowed to own canons and war ships back then. There were privateers that worked for the US government.

No, they intended for a population to be so well armed and willing to defend their God given rights that no one in their right minds would think of assassinating another person for having different ideas.

>>515566883
This, we should finish them off and take the reservation.

>>515578666
>even neighbors kill each other without govt intervention
not in a White ethnostate
literally never happens

>>515578666
>any fucker can pull a gun and escalate very quick so people are less prone to resolve their issues physically u understand
you misspelled nigger
no one is going to pull a gun except a nigger

>>515584116
>The solution? Erase all of the 20th century liberal policies.

Was there any real progress in law and governance in the 1900-2025 era? It feels like if we blanket repealed everything from those years we'd be in a better place.

I suppose segregation laws sucked, but maybe they were less worse than...the federal reserve and going off the gold standard has been for ALL OF US white or black.

>>515583635
you dont get it.. your mindset is correct. In a orderly white society without freaks. You dont live in such society

>>515584849

And they already have guns and pull the trigger. Perhaps they'd be less inclined to do so if highly skilled upstanding citizens always returned fire. They'd think twice and if they didn't, they'd never think again.

>>515580040
what are you on about you can 100% own a tank in the u.s., the tank is just a vehicle the main gun coax and each round for the main gun are aow or dd (any other weapon and destructive device) and each subject to the 200 dollar tax. which itself is likely soon going to be tossed out in court as unconstitutional anyway.

>>515583770
Gattling guns didn't exist until the mid 1800s
Yes private ships owned cannons but to captain and crew it they'd have to all agree to massacre people or use it for nefarious purposes. Of course if you were committing piracy, there you go and they were hunted down for that.

>>515584037
Ah I learned that multishot repeaters were invented but not in vogue before the. Still if someone goes in with a musket they would of been met with a lot of people with pistols

>>515584748
vikings did it all the time. are you saying government invented murder or something? lmao
>>515584849
someone just pulled a gun on kirk guy and it wasnt a nigger (maybe a glownigger)
the point is retards have too much power these days because we let technology be freely available to eeveryone as long as they can pay for it (and everyone can pay for it in the US)

>>515585031
Yes, but the thing is the nigger should not be there in the first place. The nigger should be in africa, just like the jew that brought it should be in middle east, or their actual origin point of india. Nowhere near a White civilization.

As said, the NSDAP policies, including gun policy, fixes the problems >>515570654

You forget that firearms were also invented by White people, it is immense stupidity to ever allow them into less advanced races hands. Of course it was always going to be a shitshow

>>515585031
>They'd think twice

>niggers
>thinking
lmao lay off the crack
those things are barely sentient

>>515584961

My problem is your use of "white society" because you're suggesting that skin color necessarily dictates actions or proclivities. A black man can be just as upstanding of a citizen as a white man and both can be equally terrible. The problem in America is the government raped the black nuclear family and now we have the fall out of that. So while most crime is indeed done by blacks, it isn't because they are black, but because today's blacks weren't raised with fathers.

And in any case, those incompatible with society will either remove themselves eventually or be removed by the peaceable citizens through self defense.

Ultimately, I see now way out of our current situation without a lot of bloodshed. I don't know how we find cohesion between today's black gang bangers and peacable people's. But I know the solution does not include fewer guns, but more and more willing to use them.

>>515585314
You're being pedantic with the terminology. The Puckle Gun existed in 1718, which was a crank operated revolver. Post Revolution, like other anon said, most of those guys were privateers for the Government.

>>515585497
thats too advanced for our american guy here who believes anyone currently setting foot in his land can and should wield a gun, even when you tell him they're mostly <100 iq retards who will eventually and inevitably hurt someone

>>515585643

They're casual about a camera recording them, but freak over a bottle of coke. Man you are so easily psyop'd, YOU are barely sentient.

>>515585707
oh it doesnt take a genius to figure out how it ends for you people. we are all waiting for the show

>>515585378
>vikings did it all the time
vikings did not kill their own people in their own society in their village you fucking retard
of course they did raid other societies, but that is a very different thing

obviously White people go to war and are very good at it, nobody has killed more each other than we have, but we dont kill our own villagers

thats what brown people do, kill people to steal shit or because they're angry, not because their society is at war against another society

for entire human history except very recently people have lived with their own tribe and OBVIOUSLY not let in other hostile tribes into the territory.
only jews changed this natural order, because they wanted to live in other peoples societies leeching from them instead of building their own

>>515585707
>A black man can be just as upstanding of a citizen as a white man
Absolutely fucking not

>>515585996
look i know youre high on tribalism and i support it, but dont be retarded murder has been a thing in all societies all throughout history. Vikings had laws for murder and what to do in such cases, it happened

>>515584037
>you don't trust your own citizens that comprise you (the government) anymore. It's any oxy moron.
that is the situation that the government doesnt comprise of your own tribe anymore, and has become a tyranny, which 2A was created to defend against

like the current situation of the government being taken over by jews, niggers, pajeets, shitskins, etc. that no longer represents the interests of the FREE WHITE MEN that founded the country

read the text again
>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed

it is VERY unambigous about weapons needed so its possible to form a militia to guarantee the security of free state, a free state of FREE WHITE MEN

Well let me put it to you this way. Say kanye wakes up one morning in a lunatic rage and hates you for no valid reason. Say he hires a hit man to off you. What would you do then to protect yourself?

These men- Harvey Weinstein Jeffrey Epstein Alan Dershowitz and Kanye West hire hitmen to kill people. It has nothing to do with gun rights.

>>515585977
it's gonna end up like some unholy combination of south africa, india, and middle east

funnily enough some places in california already look like pic rel

>>515585977

I have a feeling it won't be televised. You'll wake up one morning after another day of watching us slowly descend into total lawlessness as we have been, turn on your internet and it'll be quiet from the US. You'll start noticing a distinct lack of us and then you'll start talking with all the other non American's about our absence on the world stage. Then you'll start hearing about us through not such global means, such as HAM radio. The news will be as sparse as it is unintelligible.

We'll be on your mind 24/7, all these years you couldn't stand hearing the news out of the US, now you are desperate to hear ANYTHING from us. And it'll either be silence forever or one day we'll come back and say, "We're back, we're fucked up, but we're up".

What will happen inside? We'll be under maintenance. Most Americans are so sick of everything they're one good rally cry away from charging into battle. Unfortunately, everyone is so busy waiting for a " sign from God", they forget that He is watching us too, waiting for us to figure out that We The People have always had all the power...if only we could discover how to use it. I don't suspect I'll survive, I don't count on it, but America will either be rebirthed like the Phoenix or you'll never hear from us again. Pray for us Anon, God knows we need it because this isn't over yet.

>>515586860
ofc guns laws dont do anything in such an armed country. everyoone can hide a weapon . its a pointless debate . When the time comes to use them, all manner of equipment will be unburied

>>515586088

Shut up you racist nigger

>>515586604

OK whatever memeflag

>>515566574 (OP)

..when you doesnt change society to be more reasonable and civilised,and making access to guns more and more difficult, will lead that savages will have guns, and civilised people will have to bow down!

look at marseille, the most violent city in whole europe, while we have strict laws who can and who canot own weapons, the saveges in this major city have AK47 and what not ...

the same goes for chicago, as far i know one of them most anti gun ownership cities, has a higher murderrate than, afghanistan! in war against the whole NATO ....

...any true free society at least let its citizens defend themself against the savages with what ever is neccessary!

>>515587041
stop being so melodramatic , nothing of the sort will happen. If things get so bad the country will most likely break into two or three states with their own agendas and restore order quickly

>>515587116
Anti-racist = anti-white

>>515587085

As terrible as the time will be when all weaponry gets unearthed in a civil revolutionary war 2.0, it will be like a rolling museum with the boys. All the greatest hits will be side by side. 1911 along side Jeeps again and F15's with drones carrying M2's. Will be wild.

>>515586236
of course there is always some murder but you were talking about pulling a gun because of anger that shit literal never happens

we absolutely do have people very much high on drugs and alcohol and they kill each other in some apartment and then chop the bodies up or do some other crazy fucking shit

but those are very different type of thing and very localized to just the people who have went insane from substance abuse and even them never harm normal people the murder almost always follows the same pattern of apartment where people are heavily on drugs and some kills another for unknown insanity reasons

but it is quite telling that even the most drugged out brain destroyed White people never ever does a thing like knifing some random person on a bus

that simply never ever happens, like someone killing someone else in a bus has literally never happened in the history of this country at least in its sovereign time

some crimes simply are non white crimes. same is gang rape. not a single instance of it had ever recorded in modern time before the multiculturalism and shitskins came

>>515587411
lmao you almost sound excited about it, like the very thought gives you a raging boner. I know it does

>>515566574 (OP)
No they expected everyone to have a gun. Back in the good old days if you'd shot someone like Charlie, you'd have an entire mob of armed men chasing you through the woods or streets, and they'd kill you when they found you, or hang you within hours.
It's not like that anymore. But should be.

>>515566574 (OP)
The founding fathers did not have a standing army but recognized the need for "well armed militia" to be available should the Spanish or Indians attack. The militias were to be under the control of states. It didn't take long after the passage of the second ammendment for the U.S. federal government to recognize it needed its own force: first a Navy and later a standing army.

>>515587186
i dont even understand how the fuck am i teaching you english its supposed to be YOUR first language. the wording on the text is very clear and its just a simple paragraph. i dont understand why you are making some head canon and making up your own meaning for it

>>515587116
ohhhhhhhhh you're brown THAT is why you are so stupid
shit you dont even belong in the country in the first place

as already written in >>515576032 , the whole idea of "melting pot" was entirely made up by kikes 150 years after the founding, when it was founded as a WHITE ETHNOSTATE for the posterity of FREE WHITE MEN

not you, you already have a home somewhere else

>>515587331

Did you learn about how it will go down by watching Netflix? Tell me you have no idea how America is without telling me.

We're man on man defense over here. First days will be no collective armies, just individuals engaging individuals until larger bands combine, but it'll never get to north bs south or east vs west. At most it'll be city states vs surrounding areas. Which means we either become one homogeneous group again or we get shattered into a 1000 pieces ready to be conquered by the first organized troops to land on our shores.

>>515587652

Excited to see justice return, not happy about the path to get there.

>>515587589
thats cause you were pacified my dude, we were talking about Vikings not modern times. Viking would fucking slaughter you on the spot if you offended him or touched his wife or whatever. Like a feral nigger. Zero fucks given. Some whites still got that spirit of dont fuck with me or you die. Many dont. You know this

>>515587658
back in the good old days mossad didnt exist and kikes didnt have this much power
as recently as 1960 USA was still 90% White, which is more White than pretty much any country today is

>>515587947

What I can't figure out is why some random meme flag wants so badly to convince me about a history that isn't even true. You're spending a lot of time convincing me of something when you could be addressing your own nation's ills.

I'm guessing you're a shill.

>>515566574 (OP)
>Did the founding fathers really intend for any dude to just be able to walk into a store, grab a rifle to assassinate someone or go on a killing spree.

yes

>>515587957
you're saying the military would just disband or break into pieces? nigger you're in 2025 you're civil war would probably go way different than you picture. It probably wont even materialize, it just cant happen in this age people are too comfy

>>515587658
They did not expect slaves to have guns... so not quite everyone.

>>515566574 (OP)
Careful anon you are not allowed to think for yourself. You either must held ALL the beliefs A or ALL the beliefs B and nothing else

>>515588357

The whole of America is filled with individuals. Most of them act like NPCs, yes, but they are still people and people wake up when they wake up. So there's always hope someone will be shaken to right action until the end.

The military, very likely, would be at odds with itself were they given a true order to fire on citizens at large. They're retarded enough they'll stand in our streets, but until they cross that threshold and pull the trigger on us...it remains unpulled.

>>515588082
noo nobody would kill another for some simple "offending" someone lmao, thats nigger shit. you would have a fight on your hands, even today, but i dont think even in viking times it would have lead to killing

you have to realize the way to get into valhalla was by bravery and honor and dying on a battlefield on a great battle would have been the most honorable
not killing your neighbour over some argument that would have got you shut out from valhalla for sure and have your family shunned by village

caring so much about a few words to kill someone without more than thought is not human and is nigger. even vikings did not kill without purpose

you are right on the being pacified front i dont think the modern kiked society is doing anyone any good lot of people are unwell in todays society
like its absolutely astonishing if some nigger rapes your daughter and you go and kill the nigger, its you who are going to prison and now your family is fatherless
only the despicable jewish clown world post-WWII have made this happen
even in not so olden times before this jewish pacifying horse shit we simply put rapists "behind the sauna" simply killed them and everybody was okay with that, as they would be today
but after wwii was won by golemic forces, these systems of institutional repression have been forced upon all of us
we cannot even vote it out nazi parties are literally banned, democracy is fucking broken

>>515588811
its not enough having people "wake up", you need people with balls of steel to actually pick up guns and start killing. I know you americans are pretty bold but 90% or more of people would chicken out i guarantee it. You would be like minority fighting other minority while the rest try to run from conflict

>>515588327
You are a nigger, so you don't want to accept the fact that you're trespassing in a White country you don't belong.

Don't worry, all of you non-whites who want to leech in White countries are exactly the same as you.

You're the one shilling here though, I'm just speaking the truth.
I'm not the one that is trespassing in someone else's country instead of living with your own in a society your own kind built.

>>515588357
We're already established that you're talking to a retarded nigger.
Of course you can't make him understand he literally is unable to and does not possess the intellectual capability to understand.
He at best can parrot what the jews have told him, he cannot critically think, as we've seen ITT when pointing at the errors of his logic.

He'll just go "nuh-uh, jews told me this and that", "america is a melting pot", "guns are for personal protection, not militia, even though i have the text right here in front of my face saying the opposite"

>>515589115
yea i understand your pain we have similar things going on here.
> killing your neighbour over some argument that would have got you shut out from valhalla for sure and have your family shunned by village
what if they fought a duel honorably? i think thats what happened, later that turned into pistol duels its been a white tradition since always until modern justice system

>>515588327
You're anti-white. Our demographic situation is even worse than France and Canada.

>>515589596
there is no need to be so hostile if someone can understand your points they can be convinced. American friend here is just confused about the role of guns in society and is ideologically obligued to attack anyone who would restrict such use. Thinks everyone is out to get his gun, when we only want to take guns away from niggers and subhumans retards

>>515589747

You're racist. Simple as, you don't need to admit it, I know.

>>515584883
American Freedom only worked because it was propped up by a religious Christian populace. That's the only reason it worked.

Once people left God and the church, then the underlying enlightenment garbage exposed the moral relativism that causes decay and rot.


Basically, American freedom was never real. It was propped up by Christians. Remove Christianity, and you're left with a broken society that will abuse the freedoms. It doesn't work

>>515590187
Yes. And picrel.

>>515588357
>military would just disband or break into pieces?
75% of the military that pulls a trigger is Republican. Most bases are in Republican areas. Most vets are Republicans.

>>515589694
>what if they fought a duel honorably?
that would be of course a completely different thing, where they'd both agree to such a fight. in White societies fights are always mutual combat, while shitskinned animals do things like vid rel of attacking some person without them agreeing to it, often in a group no less

you're equating someone wanting to fight another person and the other wanting it too and then them fighting,
to a nigger pulling out a gun and shooting someone because the other guy said that his shoes looked ugly. because that is a thing that happened. multiple times.

entirely different things. very disingenous or retarded of you to try paint any sort of equality into these completely different events

its not about whether there was a killing or not, but WHY there was a killing

Like before shitskins stepped foot in here, it was simply IMPOSSIBLE to get randomly killed on the street or robbed or anything like that. it literally NEVER happened.
Of course you can get into a fight here, quite easily, and fights happen all the time, but like said theyre 99% of the time mutual combat and its not a police issue.


in fact before the shitskins came, the original shitskins that have been here hundreds of years, the roma gypsies did most of the retarded violent crime.
In fact, even though only 0.2% of the population is gypsies, they tooked 60% of prison space.
This means that in fact majority of gypsies have spent time in prison in their lives. It's quite an insane statistic.

Unfortunately that shows up that at least now in modern world there seems to be very little chance of actually getting the shitskins out once they are in. Its not like the gypsies are ever leaving, and neither are the niggers arabs pajeets and other type of shitskins that have flooded in recently.
So we're gonna fucking deal with them forever and the increasing amount of issues they create unless we do some major changes like eradicating the jewry from this planet

>>515590049
You are not getting it, you are talking to a nigger subhuman retard
So you are talking about getting rid of him and his gun

>>515591145
i get your point , i was just saying such thing doesnt happen in white society cause you were pacified, that before (in viking era for example) you definitely could get killed by someone in your tribe without duel. You said that didnt happen, i dont really know, neither of us lived then. But i know ancient times were pretty brutal and so were whites so i dont find it far fetched.
Ofc whites dont behave like that today, cause in my view they were pacified. Doesnt mean whites dont have it in them to behave impulsively, we dont know cause everyone is "influenced" by modernity.

>>515566574 (OP)
Hmm. I don’t know. I’ve never actually thought about it.

>>515590672

Not arguments from me. "Where there is Christ there is liberty".

>>515569301
Yeah but they also didn't intend for anyone to be able to mooch off the deep state. Whatever that means. So fuck you.

>>515591290
kek now it makes sense why he was so hostile to the idea
>>515591145
>>515591858
Ok so before shitskins murder was unheard of in your country. I get it, we all do. But you say whites never murdered sensessly before this. I say you were pacified somewhere during medieval times. Like all violence was delegated to the state. There have been papers done on this by the way, very interesting subject. Some college professor wrote a paper saying we have been genetically bred for non violence, a sort of domestication

>>515566574 (OP)
>Chuds, we need to be honest
Ok. Vikings founded their new territories centuries over centuries before you even existed you inbreed bastards.<not the insult, the scientific term. YOU FOUNDED NOTHING!

>>515566574 (OP)
snap your fingers and every gun in American is gone

within 24 hours the Mexican mafia, Russian mafia, Chinese mafia, and Jewish mafia will be shipping guns back into america.

>1pbtid

>Newfag General #1 - /nfg/
https://4plebs.org/pol/thread/458257777/

>Why are the jews so obsessed with destroying the white race?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428054025