Thread 515608737

Do you think America is heading towards a civil war or will this political shitstorm that's been hitting us just cool down eventually? Honestly, I think Americans are too fattened up and too dependent on consoomerism for anything major to happen.

>>515608737 (OP)
No dude. Nobody is going to war for a sub 5 Norwooding sloptuber.
Literally the ONLY thing that could instantly mobilize right wingers the absolute SECOND it happens, is of this same thing happened to trunp and was also caught on camera. But that hopefully never happens because it would be extremely chaotic, because again that's the ONLY time they'd just mobilize a half hour later, not like right now where they're like "it's c-coming I swear! Just as soon as somebody else starts, it'll start! I promise this time for real!"

Mutts won't care about it because Niggerball season is on.

>>515608737 (OP)
No, we’ve had these periods of chaotic bullshit in the past. Look to the seventies and eighties as examples.

>>515609386
when i say political shitstorm i mean everything that's been happening for the past 10 fucking years or so

It would be funny if america actually went into civ war for a goyslop influencer lmao.

>>515608737 (OP)
republicans will become more meek (in the modern sense)

>>515608737 (OP)
fuck no. the heavy handed attempts to manufacture strife division and drama are too obvious. you motherfuckers are pregnant with need "you won't do shit" lol.

>>515609257
kek

>>515609701
I was mainly just answering your question about if there is going to be a civil war. And I honestly believe nobody will die for Kirk.
BLM riots were a far better time because they actually went into neighborhoods where conservatives live and nothing happened

>>515608737 (OP)
No. It will only happen if people's lives become actually uncomfortable. Otherwise they will just keep getting high, eating Doordash and playing vidya.

>>515608737 (OP)
of course not, Americans are too fat and lazy to do anything like that

>>515608737 (OP)
>Do you think America is heading towards a civil war
Nah. Civil war happens when we're starving, not because of mean things on the internet.

No one irl actually gives a single fuck about it, actually.

>>515608737 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)
This is more likely.

>>515608737 (OP)
>>515609566
I need at least 8 weeks of football before im ready for a revolution.

>>515608737 (OP)
This just another chapter of the culture war that mostly fought on Twitter. This is just another week in America for the ones who aren't terminally online.

>>515610311
funny. i had just commented about this specific case on another thread

>>515610588
I mean everything that's been happening over the past decade or so. Trump's elections, BLM riots, lots of assasinations (and failed ones), etc.

Civil war against who? Leftists? Democrats? Random people on the street? Nothing ever happens. Its all talk as usual.

nah, white "people" like shitposting and csam too much, they already lost

>>515610839
Doesn't matter as long as the divide gets wide enough to enable conquering.

>>515611193
Now I'm not sure what's worse. White people doing literally nothing, or niggers constantly rioting over the smallest inconvenience

>>515608737 (OP)
I don't know.
All I know is that everything is apparently getting worse, not better.

>>515608737 (OP)
I’d rather have a nuclear war with Russia and China than a civil war, more non-Whites would die that way.

>>515608737 (OP)
>Do you think America is heading towards a civil war or will this political shitstorm that's been hitting us just cool down eventually?

It's important to keep in mind what civil war means and encompasses. Civil War does not necessarily mean a war between the states like in the 1860s where people are getting conscripted on both sides and forced to fight.

There are low level civil wars, and if something happened in the US, it would likely be similar to "The Troubles" in Ireland but on a larger scale.
>>515610311
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)
>This is more likely.

This is likely what we would be looking at. Escalating tit-for-tat violence between far left and far right groups. Basically imagine the protests and street battles of Trump's 1st term but instead of yelling, doxxing, and occasional brawls, it turns into full on gun battles and bombings. Drones will likely be used to a significant degree.

One thing I learned from the Charlie Kirk assassination is that most (but not all) liberals are still decent people, and they think his death was horrific. However, there is say 10% of them who are extreme left and who are so devoid of humanity that they cheer on his death.

In the event of escalating political violence, it'll be that extreme cohort where it all comes from. A Civil War would not be all conservatives fighting all leftists. It would be an extreme minority on both sides, but in a country of 350 million that's still a lot of people who can do a lot of damage, and inflict casualties not just on each other but on civilians and non-partisans, even unintentionally.

>>515608737 (OP)
A civil war no, but a very well orchestrated military coup yes.

>>515608737 (OP)
Civil war is ongoing in our nation, just not under the old auspices.

>>515608737 (OP)
Spanish type Civil War where we killed all the leftists

>>515613915
>PNW with UMW
who larp dis is?

>>515609701
I'm american, I moved last year and I suddenly stopped feeling like I'm in a never-ending political shitstorm. No more stupid ass doomer propaganda constantly being shoved into my face, but if I turn my vpn onto US I'll immediately get ads dooming about WW3 and ohh everyone in america is fucked and there's nothing you can do about it blah blah blah.
90% of "everything that's been happening" the last 10 yrs has mostly been overblown bullshit. Whatever "major" event happens is realistically not actually going to be that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Americans will continue to doom, and the earth will continue to spin, as per usual.

>>515613015
>I’d rather have a nuclear war with Russia and China than a civil war, more non-Whites would die that way.

You don't want that, because that would look like this >>515613915

The worst possible case scenario is that we get WWIII but that theatre of WWIII is primarily fought via a Civil War in North America. That would be the most horrific outcome. Russia and China backing certain factions, Europe backing certain factions. Latin American narco cartels entering the fray and switching sides constantly based on who pays them more or how they could benefit. We could easily see something as bloody as WWII but instead of being fought on European soil it's fought on American soil instead.

A low-level civil war of chuds vs antifa shooting at each other with semi-auto rifles would be immensely preferable to Russia/Chinese funded Chuds with military grade weaponry fighting European funded antifa with military grade weaponry

we face the very real possibility that within 5 years Americans will fondly look back upon school shootings and 30 per 100k homicide rates as an extremely peaceful and idyllic time

>>515608737 (OP)
It would if conservatives weren’t pussies but I always bet against conservatives and this heuristic hasn’t let me down yet

>>515608737 (OP)

When MLK was assassinated, did it instigate a civil war? He already had a mobilized mass movement of activists behind him, he drew crowds magnitudes larger than Kirk on his best day and that was before social media. Many of those people lived through a level of terrorism, violence, and harassment by way of night riders and lynchings that would make the average MIGA dweeb piss and cry if they endured it for ten minutes - they had basically nothing to lose and every reason to rampage. Nope.

Tons of children and random non-political innocents have been killed by mass shooters that explicitly wrote in manifestos or claimed during their trials: we did this for white supremacy. The normies were not appalled, they did not rally together to get rid of the white nationalists to protect their children. Kirk himself wrote off those shootings as the cost of doing business for having 2A, and while it isn't the justification I'd provide, he is basically correct that it's a violent culture producing these events, not just the presence of guns - and removing the guns wouldn't fix the culture.

Tons of Americans have spent the last couple years watching Palestinian children get beheaded, butchered, and buried alive in real time, daily. Barbarity far beyond Kirk's death, at a far greater scale, every day. Kirk was not ashamed or offended by that violence, he wanted more of it. Because he was a true American patriot.

We came here violently, viciously, and this board has always been proud of that or at least willing to laugh about it. We built the place with incredible violence, then shipped it all over the world. We invented new categories of violence with episodes like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Folks may clutch their pearls for culture war posturing but this was just another Wednesday. This is a murmur in the REM sleep beneath The American Dream. It'll be forgotten quickly. No one is going to war over this, there won't be a war.

>>515609701
In the 1800s there were like daily assassinations

>>515613980

One of the only intelligent posts I have seen on this board, maybe even the first, since he was shot. Seems to me it'll also be a lot like the fall of the USSR, where parasites on the hill just turn the state into a handful of profit centers while it all falls apart for everyone else. There will be skirmishes between politically-deranged nematodes on either side that are wrapped up in this culture of violence, but more than that I suspect a lot more banditry and violent crime when homelessness explodes and the economy bottoms out for real - hopefully I am just being a dumb doomer, but I will protect my family as best I can either way.

>>515614898
Nuclear war is beneficial to the USA. It would make the US population 90% White after the cities are obliterated. The population of the USA is more spread out unlike the population of China which is mostly along their coast. Ethnic Russians would be functionally extinct after Moscow and Saint Petersburg are nuked. Pakistan and India would nuke each other. In the event of a nuclear war the USA would nuke countries like Brazil and Mexico that aren’t even actively involved in the conflict as a contingency measure to make sure they don’t rise up in the power vacuum after the war

>>515608737 (OP)
>is America heading towards civil war
We certainly aren't heading away from it

I think that nobody's gonna cry if the people celebrating have the entailment of their worldview demonstrated to them.

despite the rhetoric, i'd argue America is probably less literally close to civil war now than it was in the 60s. what IS different now is that the cultural zeitgeist entertains civil war, but of course that doesn't mean we're actually close to one.

civil wars require interests that can fund and organize the war to benefit from that, you're never going to find sporadic warfare because war requires an insane amount of sustained effort. i say this because the far left does not have such an interest group in the US. they may get funding from NGOs (or occasionally the feds), but the people funding this stuff don't do it because they need it, and the moment this stuff starts to hurt them they'll switch gears (we have already begun seeing this happen).

charlie kirk's death will, realistically, not change the needle much one way or the other. people here put way too much attention on the trees and not the forest

>>515616262
>here will be skirmishes between politically-deranged nematodes on either side that are wrapped up in this culture of violence, but more than that I suspect a lot more banditry and violent crime when homelessness explodes and the economy bottoms out for real - hopefully I am just being a dumb doomer, but I will protect my family as best I can either way.

That's the real powder keg in the situation. Political violence has the potential to become a lifestyle of people who don't have anything else. We already see this to a lesser extent with school shootings. People, usually young people without many friends who feel like losers, will commit a mass shooting or a school shooting as one final act and attempt to achieve notoriety and significance, even if it's negative significance.

Pretty soon, if things don't magically calm down, joining a vaguely political "gang" will be a viable opportunity for disaffected youth. You can't get a job? You can't pay your rent or your bills? Well, you can join your local neo-nazi or antifa gang and rob and murder people while accumulating resources. Economic collapse would only have a politically radicalizing effect, especially on young people

>>515616433
>Nuclear war is beneficial to the USA

No it wouldn't. We should want to preserve our history. Nuclear war would not be beneficial, it would be profoundly destructive. Not every city would be obliterated. Demographics might not change much at all besides massive population reduction

>>515617732
>>515617732
What are you talking about? There's extreme amounts of money in politics.

Over $15 billon dollars were spent just in the 2024 presidential campaigns alone (both Trump and Kamala spending added together). Imagine if that money were used to fund radically violent political groups instead of electoral candidates.

Just because big money isn't funding them yet doesn't mean they never will

>>515619315
well first of all i didn't say there's no money in politics or imply anything close to that anywhere. i was talking about funding for the far left specifically, i'm saying there aren't any interest groups in the US that can (realistically) exploit the far left such that it would be worth funding a semi-organized war. the people that fund them now are do so out of ideological and not practical reasons.

in other words, i'm saying no string puller benefits from a civil between far left and everyone else, and so this event is ultimately a nothingburger.