Thread 515650670

We are building a shortlist of interconnected troons in the area. Could be another one of those troon terror cells.
PREV: >>515645915

Physical :
>Height: 5′11″–6′1″
>Weight: 155–165 lbs
>Shoulder width: 16–18 in
>Body: skinny
>race: appears caucasoid/white
>Hair: either black or very dark brown
>no visible tattoos
>hand length at around 7–8 in
>extremely likely to be leftist

Disposition :
>Intelligent / getting away focused, intentional
>had a plan
>knowledge of intermediate counter surveillance to include SIGINT, IMGINT, and forensics such as bio indicators. (Forearm prints are not his, he wore long sleeves)
>advanced military sniping experienced(everyone insists the shot is easy and some “Alabama teenager could do that”. Sniping isn’t just the shot. It’s the infil, exfil, stalk, subterfuge, camo, etc. this is very hard to do correctly. You need to be very intelligent to be a sniper).

Getaway vehicle:
>Blue Honda Odyssey with no plates

Motive :
>statistically, political.

fpwp

this is the better thread. the other is misleading and implies the one tranny is the suspect

odd obsession with russian, just like the minnesota shooter (stickers on the cell phone). translates to "warning":

>>515650670 (OP)
imagine being this retarded.

Other thread just consulted chat GPT. They are cooked.

Ouriat of Troons that are suss and all know each other are Skye Valdaez, Jack Bellows and salty-n-sweet

>>515651103
It's not an "odd obsession" you cretin American. Russia is the birthplace of the communist revolution, it's their worker's revolution. There is nothing "odd" about it if the tranny is a socialist/communist.

>>515651103
nigger, the ears dont even fucking match up

>>515651380
you again

>>515650670 (OP)
Did anyone look through signatures on the petition to ban Charlie from UVU?

https://chng.it/PRvSpJLtjy

>>515651227
We need to find other mutuals of these three. So far I think we know that Bellows and salty know eachother, or they're both part of the same gub club for faggota

>>515651419
yes, because i am not a drug-addict with an addled brain. im not a well-poisoning autist or face blind

https://open.spotify.com/artist/34EBpCrfqNkCizqsUz2sZ0
https://www.amazon.com/music/player/artists/B0F9Z4J1XG/god's-finest-scalpel

>>515651380
Yep. Ears, shoulder width, hair, jaw, and tits don't match. That being said, the tranny needs to be kept away from schools.

>>515650670 (OP)
The ferret mouth (when open) and kinda pursed butthole mouth when closed, plus a kinda squished piggie nose (at least in that head on walking up the stairs pic) stand out to me
>OP (from last thread
>Fishmouth and nose in that insta profile is a decent lead to go off of, sorry, I for distracted I'm gonna check the ears. Or , could somebody PLEASE that isn't phone lagging dragging all the best shots of these guys ears into paint and line them up next to each other for us so we can compare. And also his face shots too, again, please
Me again: I've also seen people compare it to the meme monkey mouth/white people smiling mouth -- where it just goes straight across.
Doesn't look like that to me, but the way the whole face kinda tucks in IS somehow reminiscent

>>515650670 (OP)
Reposting from other thread...
A couple of things stand out to me... The level of how far down the sideburns go down compared to that middle part of his ear. It doesn't match up with the tranny unless they grew it out, but it does match up with the guy Charlie debated. The ear folds down a little at the top, which I don't see as much with the Tranny as I do the guy Charlie debated, but it could just be because he has his head angled down. And I could be wrong, but underneath the mesh fabric of the hat, it looks like maybe there is a slight bald spot? It could just be a reflection of the light, but if it is a slight bald spot would that match up with either of these people?

>>515651103
They're both odd in the mouth and nose, but I don't think in quite the same way. And, the troon's skin is too girly soft-looking compared to "shooter" pics.
But, I think part of the idea is just to expose these people and their ties/organization
And, I am sure Trump et al would not mind plausible evidence to get in there and go after them

I fucking guarantee the shooter is here, we need to find video:
>Trans rights protest Salt Lake City January 2025

>>515650670 (OP)
>>knowledge of intermediate counter surveillance to include SIGINT, IMGINT, and forensics such as bio indicators.
lmao imagine typing this

If we find the shoes or hat,
we find the undeniable proof
Scan. Those. Pics.

>>515652006
Trying to find more on this shit. Im OG OP though and I need to go to sleep. Can someone take over looking into this tranny fest in Utah and also first person to respond to me takes over baking bread

im going to bed because i've been doing this all night, but SALTYNCUTE has been tipped to the FBI via phone at this time. PLEASE spread that word so we don't send multiple tips and overrun the fbi. thanks everyone for helping me out, if we catch one tonight you all are legends

>>515652132
The hat, yes, the shoes are a retarded premise and you clearly know nothing about clothing. They're converse or converse style shoes -- one of the most common types of shoes in the world. The used them in the NBA for years for Christ's sake.

>>515650670 (OP)
Look, the bullet begins penetration in the back of his neck. I don't think the roof guy can be the assassin.

>>515652247
Doesn't matter, our pero isn't common. As another anon noted in previous thread it's easy to find him because everyone in America is fat so he sticks out like a sore thumb. Analyzing other protests videos in previous threads and I only found a single person wearing converse ..

>>515650670 (OP)
Will /pol/ still support trannies after this?

He’ll never be caught, cope

Focus on the mouth, this is not a normal mouth, this guy can be recognized by his dental arch without the help of a dentist. This mouth is not normal.

>>515652285
please refrain from posting anything else

>>515652035
Yeah the canadian is lime 13 years old by the way he types.

Andres “Skye” Valadez is a musician and artist (using she/her pronouns) in his early 20s, based in the Ogden/Riverdale area of Utah. He is known for underground music with politically charged themes, including a SoundCloud track titled "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31" released earlier in 2025. Public photos of Valadez are limited and primarily come from social media profiles like Facebook, Instagram (now deleted @stra1ght_d3ath_), and Pinterest. These show him in casual, everyday settings, often with a focus on his artistic persona.

- Facial Features:
>Valadez's known photos show a soft jawline, full lips, and androgynous traits (consistent with his transgender identity). The suspect's partially visible profile (jaw and mouth) has been noted by users as a "striking resemblance" to Valadez, particularly the chin shape and lip structure. However, the suspect's images are low-quality and obscured, making definitive matches impossible without clearer evidence. The glasses-wearing close-up of Valadez contrasts with the suspect's cap/sunglasses.

- Build and Age:
>Both appear slim and youthful (early 20s). Valadez is described as having a lean, average-height frame, matching the suspect's estimated 5'8"-5'10" slender build. No major discrepancies here.

- Clothing and Style:
>Strong overlap: Valadez's recent social media photos often show him in hoodies, ballistic helmets, kevlar vests, baseball caps, and sunglasses. Valadez's casual, layered style (e.g., hoodies over tees) fits the "streetwear" look in the FBI images.

- Hair and Accessories:
>Valadez has short-to-medium dark hair in recent photos (longer in older ones). Could have trimmed before the assassination. The suspect has shorter hair under the cap. Sunglasses, helmets, hoodies and caps are common in Valadez's images, suggesting a signature style for concealment or preference.

>>515651103
https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Warning-radioactive-materials-in-russian-purple-by-anonvx/48822506.EJUG5

>>515652285
There was no shot from the back, it was blocked.

if this board wouldn't want the shooter to be a tranny so bad you guys would probably caught the killer already. Because Kash is fucking retard with no training.

>>515652006
I think this is the right idea, they have been spotted somewhere in the past. It's also worth looking into any of the leftist armed groups in the area and surrounding states namely the John Brown gun club and SRA, if you can find anything on them. A guy on afrcom used to keep decent tabs on them but the jannies there banned the threads. I'll bet you $100 the shooter is 2 or less degrees of separation from Karl K(uck)sarda.

>>515652516
>>515652787
it seems to be exactly like the gel

>>515652791
It's the FBI who claimed he wrote transsexual themed whatever on the casings. He's a tranny supporter at least, whomever he is.

>>515652631
I think this is it. We won't hear more until tomorrow when the FBI raids his house and his father's tattoo shop.

>>515652445
>Focus on the mouth, this is not a normal mouth, this guy can be recognized by his dental arch without the help of a dentist. This mouth is not normal.
Who is on the right?
And, yeah, both the mouth and nose stand out
Plus, I think it stands out that "shooter" is not a COMPLETE FAGGOT like most of the troons being put forward

>>515652213
Your lead is going nowhere. A tranny festival? Sounds like your homecoming. So sleeeepy…so Indian….zzzz

Roof shooter is a DISTRACTION
SEE PICREL ; ITS A BULLET COMING FROM CHARLIES BACK-RIGHT (POSSIBLY BACK-LEFT)

>>515651930
It's not the same ear. Assassin's is more pointy

There is NO WAY the bullet came from the ROOF
>Charlie's ear get's clipped like Trumps in the first frame and starts bleeding
>Frame 2 blood keeps flowing from his right ear, entry wound
Are you all gonna stop being retarded ?

>>515652006
this person has the right build and hair color, wears the same style of shoe, I wish I could see the suspect's nose better

>>515651103
>>515652643
Stalker fan
https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Monolith-Faction-Logo-STALKER-S-T-A-L-K-E-R-by-Donavenwolfe/123983336.EJUG5

>>515654106
Lots of kids have canvas shoes.

This is not a random obsession with russian stuff, all these shooters come from the same telegram groups that are accelerationist and related to satanic networks 764 / o9a, do your research

>>515654306
i only know ukranian satanists, why not have ukranian stickers? the person in the instagram's facebook has lots of ukranian references, maybe that's it.

>>515652285
>>515653672

These 2 prove the bullet was shot from the back.
Was the suspected shooter's roof from the back or front? If it's not in the back then he isn't the shooter.

>>515651103
>>515650670 (OP)
I don't think this is him, the ear doesn't match. Check out the ridge near the eardrum, the rooftop guy's is deeper and more pronounced.

>>515653672
That's not a bullet in mid air. See white shirt guy behind the guy in the black shirt? It's a gap with the black shirt in front, likely someone's arm moving creating a white gap.

>>515653917
>ear gets clipped
That's the tiny wire of his earpiece getting blown back because the shot came from the front. You can see the mic for the earpiece on his t-shirt. If the shot came from the back then why did the t-shirt blow up before the earpiece wire?

>>515654196
good catch. i guess stalker is ukranian

WE DID IT REDDIT

>>515651552
Thats Valdez right? Is he in Utah? My moneys on this roof and gun obsessed tranny tho
>>515651103

>>515654455
yeah maybe it's not, wish the fbi / palantir had better pics.

>>515654409
you can read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/764_(organization)

These people have no coherent view points of the world, and most members are grooming vulnerable/mentally ill people, especially trans discords. Thats why you are getting trans shooters with lgbt flags who also have racist /pol/ shit written on their guns. They are just accelerationists who want to see the world burn, and you can't pinpoint if they are actually left/right, they wanna see both sides start a civil war

>>515654652
>>515654455
I don't think we can look at an ear from 2 opposite angles and make the call. So far I think salty tranny is worth investigating.

>>515654455
>It's a gap with the black shirt in front, likely someone's arm moving creating a white gap.

No it is in front of black shirt not where his arm is. Also it's not a bullet its a fragment of rubber blown off of the prosthetic arm hiding the gun the guy in the white shirt shoots.

Idk this seems kinda gay and cringe, 2016 /pol/ wouldn't have took this long.

>>515654965
>2016 /pol/ wouldn't have took this long.
cause we weren't obsessed with troons back then. also depending on when in 2016 r/TheDonald still contained the retards. the moment it got banned the floodgates opened and this board became no more useful than Elon Musks replies on twitter.

>>515654374
He possibly has curly/wavy hair you can see the hair tufting out of the cap

pics from here: https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/utah-valley-shooting-updates

hey lads, I know we aren't as spry as we once were. with each passing happening we grow a bit longer in the tooth, but I want to commend your autistic efforts and burning of the midnight oil. for me it's been years since I've been active here in this honeypot... some might call me an 'old fag', been around since the boston bombings...
gods I was strong then..
figured I'd come to say that this is it for me—this is my last spergout forensic detective websleuth sesh.

i'm proud to ride out with you roody-poos one last time, lets catch this bastard for old times sake

>>515654602
its definitely not this salty_n_cute troon

>>515655106
what the fuck is this fed shit clearly written by chatgpt LMAO

I think it’s fair to say we’ve got fucking nothing

>>515650670 (OP)
shut up glownigger

>>515650670 (OP)
>>515650670 (OP)
>>515650670 (OP)
>>515650670 (OP)


FOUND THE ADDRESS OF THE FOOTAGE IN THE TMZ VID

ADD TO OP PLS

>>515654426
I have no idea about public transport etc where he went walking. But just like how he walked and was followed by tens of cameras from all kinds of angles, they can continue doing that. I assume public transport has some sort of camera system too.

He will get caught, it's just a matter of time of collecting the footage.

He doesn't strike me as a professional whatsoever. The jump off the building, if he really ditched his gun in the "woods". No getaway vehicle (or at least not known yet).

He will be caught in a week tops.

100% /pol/ will find that faggot before the feds

>>515654602
insanely hot

>>515655420
wtf why does every house have 3 cars and 2 lawn mowers?

>>515654965
>Idk this seems kinda gay and cringe, 2016 /pol/ wouldn't have took this long.
The threads were a lot more productive and rational just a few hours ago

>>515655232
yeah

>>515655410
All we have is a tranny from Utah who practices parkour from rooftops, hates Christians, uses drugs and is obsessed with military tactics/guns. Other than that, nothing.

https://streamable.com/a8kfhq

>>515655106
this is delicious copypasta

>>515655232
figured I'd try and boost morale with some levity fellow /pol/lack.

you know thise board didn't always used to be full of feds, bots and slide threads... there used to be a lot more comradery baked in. picture /b and /pol getting along. now its all trannies and jews and its all so tiresome.

,,,here I go reminiscing again talking about the good old days. how time flies

>>515655420
we already knew this

>>515650670 (OP)
>extremely likely to be leftist

Im all for dude getting away with this crime.

>>515654965
There's a lot more noise now, and the demographics of the site have changed drastically.

>>515655577
anons will call you schizo but I see it, it looks like the angle of the grass makes them fuck up the landing

>>515655420
Dunno how transparent certain things are in burgerland but...
Has anyone filled a missing persons or stolen vehicle report in the area?, there's a non-zero possibility that the shooter killed his parents or his roommate?

>>515655630
kk said that in the last thread no one said if this was known or not

>>515654965
2010 /pol/ wouldve helped him escape

>>515653320
So an actual implosion happens!
That's what shattered Kirk's brainstem / brain.

>>515654455
Okay explain the muzzle flash at 25 seconds in this video and also the fact we see this muzzle flash reflect on a phone from another video
https://files.catbox.moe/vmqt4m.webm

>>515651374
>Russia is the birthplace of the communist revolution
Imagine being this historically-illiterate. "Communist" ideology was cooked up in a (((British))) think-tank during the early 20th century and proselytized in Germany.
Fucking zoomer.

>>515655410
This. There's way better shit on X.

>>515651103
could it be slovakian? this gus family is venezeulan and slovak https://www.kgns.tv/2025/06/21/man-arrested-after-utah-no-kings-rally-shooting-is-released-investigation-continues/

>>515655613
I aim to please, anon.

do me a favor before I go... remember me, remember what we did here

>>515655679
Yes this troon practiced for years dreaming about it, and in the end got away temporarily, but in the heat of the moment over-estimated themselves and couldn't pull off the roll. Notice how the shooter's head goes down to the knees as if they expected to roll but it was too difficult.

>>515655760
there is no muzzleflash, you probably saw a sun reflection

>>515655577
It's most likely this dude.
Unless the shooter was some savant that came from another state entirely and made up a plan on a whim and executed it perfectly.

>>515655630
did they see a car? anyone in that hood have a ring or some kinda cameras maybe?

>>515652285
USA has magic bullet theory.
Wins Everytime
I said that earlier, but a blastic test with the rifle they found should show a match

So far we have 3 videos of the shooter on the roof.

>the prone video

>the phone video of him running away

>the fbi cctv footage of him jumping off roof

I refuse to believe there is only ONE video of him in the background, running off the roof. With how many people were recording and streaming, we have to be missing something. I've been scanning the background rooftops of every video I come across.

>>515654921
Who's that guy? Is he interrogated yet?

How much progress have we made? Not a lot?
I wonder how long it will take the feds to find him.

I don't know why but these t-shirts are in a lot of thrift stores in the western US.

>>515650670 (OP)
IMO troon in the OP is not it.
The other one is a perfect match.

>>515656030
A bunch of the people recording were leftists so I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them have deleted better footage just to not expose their "heckin nazi killer masked unknown hero".

>>515654965
too many bad faith actors have flooded the site post 2016 hence lefty /pol/ aka discord trannies.

>>515652445
i agree, the mouths match, we need higher rez or second person weaing that hat or glasses, its too similar to ignore

>>515655968
>>515655679
>>515655577

Note also the way they are falling. It's hard to see but from the reflection of the shooter, you can see they chose to fall with arms spread wide above their head and behind their back, and legs loose. In salty_n_cute's parkour video on the right, the exact same falling pose is made.

>>515650670 (OP)
when is america finally gonna consider troons as mentally disabled and commit them forcefully? let alone allowing them any access to weapons.

if america goes first the world might follow

>>515656132
>I wonder how long it will take the feds to find him.
They've already found him. It's one of their own.

>>515656213
They wouldnt. They can't resist their narcissistic need for attention and views. This is the most interesting thing that will ever happen in any of their lives. They went for content and they got it.

>>515652643
great work fren

>>515652791
We have said it's a transvestite !
ATF and FBI said the shell casing had troon idioligy..
The first moment we said it was a troon
Just because people detrans for Jesus they are still trans.

>>515656285
>commit
to what? the asylums were shut down (thanks obama!)

>>515655577
>>515655679
>>515655968
I’m sorry but do you people seriously not believe other people than transgenders can climb and jump off a roof

>>515656283
Anons are also omitting the possibility that the shooter could have used amateurishly padded or larger clothes to mask his own frame and make himself harder to identify, but realistically, he might have done it to make it easier to hide the gun he was carrying without people asking what the lumps on his body were.

>>515656410
Shut up retard

>>515656132
>How much progress have we made? Not a lot?
>I wonder how long it will take the feds to find him.
JEETED FBI?
/pol/ is our only hope

>>515654921
You can even see the gas from the gun.
That's the shooter 100%

>>515650670 (OP)
I'm gonna stop you right now, it was a jew

>>515656400
>commit
>to what? the asylums were shut down (thanks obama!)
Malls

>>515656410
It's the frame.
The shooter is not that large nor that small either. He's skinny but the right amount. The other two leads do not match the frame of the suspect from the photos.

>>515655577
>https://streamable.com/a8kfhq

The troon knows how to roll though. The shooter landed completely wrong.

>>515656030
You forgot the most interesting one.
The TMZ doorbell video of him limping to the place and the running away through the forest strip

>>515656410
its not our fault all these people look dysgenic

>>515656397
>ATF and FBI said the shell casing had troon idioligy..
wow
did they also find a copy of the communist manifesto and a picture of bernie sanders with a heart drawn on it on the roof?

oh my god are you guys really convinced he was trans because the bullet was manufactured by the turkish company Turan, or because of the twitter transvestigation?

>>515654196
great work
>>515654602
interesting battle witch, black fingernails, jezebel magazine paid witches to curse charlie, might be relevant

>>515655577
hmm, yeah was quick to jump - he didn't tuck but he did absorb and recover perfectly even though adrenaline could accomplish most of this. I feel like this troon could definitely be a strong candidate or at least be investigated nonetheless

Damn that guys back damn near snapped in half when he jumped.
There's no way he's not in pain and with some major injury. He dropped like 20 feet straight.

>>515652285
stop posting this retarded schizo theory faggot

>>515656574
>The troon knows how to roll though. The shooter landed completely wrong.
From the adrenaline.
The dude just realized he landed a fatal shot and for a split second saw Kirk spray blood like a hose. He was obviously shaken.
You can also see him booking it really haphazardly through a field in the house camera video. Dude was shaken and let loose once he was far away enough from the place of the shooting.

>>515656613
most likely a faggot mtf that is passing for a man that day

>>515656752
proof?

>>515651476
Look at this one

>>515656777
Faggots usually work for Mossad

>>515654602
gen z styx?

>>515656777
none I'm saying that's the more viable angle than a girl ftm nice numbers

>>515650670 (OP)
>advanced military sniping experienced(everyone insists the shot is easy and some “Alabama teenager could do that”. Sniping isn’t just the shot. It’s the infil, exfil, stalk, subterfuge, camo, etc. this is very hard to do correctly. You need to be very intelligent to be a sniper).
What would you even know about that you leaf retard

>>515656654
>>515656672
I used to jump off shit like that all the time as a lad. When you're in your early 20's and not unfathomably fat like you amerifats, things are actually possible. Your cartilage is also not shot like a 30 year old. Completely normal way to jump off a roof, minimise the height by hanging first, plus adrenaline because you HAVE to jump. No problem, no injury.

>>515651476
Barely any photos and full names. Also multiple alts with fake ones.
Will still look into it. Don't expect much.

>>515651476
Would an assassin really sign this though if they planned to assassinate him? Pretty sure they’d welcome his coming. I’m still more leaning toward a hired hitman narrative. Whoever takes the fall for it in the coming days is likely by design. Everyone will forget about it after that. So sad honestly. The fuck has happened to us? Are we really all so comfortable in these times?

>>515656672
If he had some muscle, he could sleep it off and continue. Otherwise might be painful, specially for the knees.

>>515651103
>>515651930
>>515652006
>>515656613

This is one of the most retarded things, you could find millions of people matching the shooters looks from the blurry ass video

>>515656132
our top agents are posting trannies people that are white and shoot guns. Girl cock is too attractive bait for them to ignore which is why the GOP(glowie op) 'leaked' supposed carvings of pro-trans messages on the bullets, meanwhile the official information doesn't say that to mislead us so we wouldn't know it was an inside job.

>>515656143
thanks for clear picture
>>515656613
we're not convinced of anything, we just know recent shootings have been perpetrated by trans working for the government recruited from discord by the feds who groom them or from reddit after which they are sent to ukraine to die for zog. we build theories based on patterns which is how we have solved crimes before. we look into it and see if it yields anything, if not we move on

>>515656987
>>515656967
He literally got punched in the face by his knee caps

>>515654602
That's him ! The rifle ! And the troon !

>>515656573
>>515656608
Guys, there’s a lot people out there. And just because the other leads aren’t as easy a win as this one doesn’t mean this troon becomes a sure fit all of a sudden. I’ll admit! The roof top video is alarming, but use the legitimacy of the situation. She’s not the only one with access, and in Utah there ain’t much too do. Youth, let alone trans rebel radical youths, would not be that surprising to be playing on top of buildings. Just my take. My heart says it’s a guy. A guy that doesn’t have to change their identity heavily to blend in.

>>515656030
>I refuse to believe there is only ONE video of him in the background, running off the roof. With how many people were recording and streaming, we have to be missing something. I've been scanning the background rooftops of every video I come across.
The fact that they haven't caught him yet just shows what absolute retards the FBI are.

Chances are quite high that the shooter had his cellphone on him for instance. How many could be in attendance.. 2000?
How many moved northwards along the general route of the shooter? <50?
How many of these would be there when he was confronted on previous occasions scouting the area?
What are the odds he was masked those times?
How many of these people are on the

The FBI at the very least have his unmasked face.
They know he bought his cap at Backcountry (so his card should be on their rolls).
The rifle also requires a license, so they can at least trace where it comes from (even if it isn't his personally, but the general location will help narrow it down).

The TLDR is that they should have a list of maximum 10 suspects and should start making arrests already.
They have such a short list that it is only a matter of taking people in for questioning to exclude them manually.

So what is the fkn holdup?

>>515657049
>She’s not the only one with access,
>she

>>515656981
Not unlikely.
Also, we have no clue where the fuck he is. He could have killed himself already in a secluded location. If he planned that, he had nothing to lose by stating his motives that brazenly and in the open before the attack.

>>515657071
>So what is the fkn holdup?
trump put two retard podcast bros at the head of fbi

>>515656285
there are levels to insanity, you cant lock people up unless they act violently even if they are insane and they have just as much right to weapons as anyone else. americans believe in freedom for all, not just for one

>>515656967
im wondering, does adrenaline also make u less prone to injury or it just lessens the pain in a case like that?

>>515657071
this was a modern city with surveillance. they should have enough cctv footage to track him everywhere

>>515657071
>The rifle also requires a license, so they can at least trace where it comes from (even if it isn't his personally, but the general location will help narrow it down).
No it doesn't. It's old enough that there are probably no records, or at least surviving records of its purchase. Or if it was a private sale, there is no record at all. And you do not need a license to own a rifle in Utah.

The FBI probably has a lot more info than they are telling us, and are probably in here trying to guide the convo to certain areas to have us research it for them and give them ideas desu

>>515656967
Oh i get it... I did that stuff. could be a possibility though given how fast he assessed a drop like that. but like I said, dude just sniped someone - adrenaline anyhow

>>515652445
>>515654455
>>515654602
>>515655068
The texture of hair doesn't match with the salty person though.

>>515657071
>So what is the fkn holdup?
If they arrest the wrong retards, the Prez's base will be severely weakened. And it will also fuel the belief that you can get away with murdering people over discourse you don't like and the gov will never find you. Their country will from low trust to ZERO trust society if this also becomes a trend like school shootings.
That's why they are being so meticulous and slow with finding the suspect in a single go.

american teenagers are hilarious they really think they are some sort of movie villian. The world used to see assassinations when a population had been subjected to horror for long enough they snap, now it’s hysteric children trying to impress their peers. I genuinely think China could invade and subdue the USA, each and every one of them are actual men not soundcloud pedophiles having hissy fits

>>515654965
We have 8 mm of Russian girls with trump.
These things take time

>>515657360
i mean they arrested luigi fairly quickly and that didn't stop this incident.

are they withholding info at this point is my question. hoping day of the rope comes along from the civies

>>515656828
This is the most damneing thing posted so far! Good shit anon o7

>>515656904
>This is the state of people who can’t be convinced a man could shoot another man

>>515656967
Like I said, no more than mid to late 20’s.

>>515656981
How pre planned can something like this be? I’m still trying to find an answer as to when it was declared he was going. There’s a petition that was created to show people weren’t happy about his presence. Guessing around then?

>>515657266
Lessens pain for seconds to minutes depending on the injury.
Sometimes it can make fatal injuries not be felt for minutes. There's recorded cases of people that were basically dead but still fough or walked around before feeling tired and laying down or just instantly collapsing like a wet bag of paper, even during or after chatting with bystanders or trying to walk it out.

>>515657266
both, it strengthens the muscles reflexes tendons and sharpens the senses but only for about 10 hours, max 2 days, but usually you crash in ten or less, in most cases you lose fine motor skills but in some cases they are much improved, it depends usually on the mind keeping pace

Where's the footage when he goes to the woods?

>>515651227
What about the friend troop who posted that something big and bad would happen the next day? I don’t have the grabs

>>515656967
That kind of shit is easy for any teen who isn't a huge slob.

>>515656967
This salty_n_cute eats an extremely hearty diet, their instagram is tranny school shooter pics and then steak, hamburger, shrimp, eggs, butter, etc. Sounds irrelevant, but Now imagine the shooter was a vegan leftist tranny - their legs would have snapped from the fall. .

>>515655106
So there is a Nazi agenda, by religion in the USA.
Activists ?
Fascist ?

>>515656904
I was asking for proof that he's trans

>>515657504
or maybe they don’t know shit and just got outsmarted by a 20 year old with sunglasses

i just watched the jumping video,that could go wrong for him in many ways,i dont think this guy is a pro anymore lol so risky and easy to be watched

>>515657527
I would like the real suspect to suffer for their/thems crimes no matter what... doesn't mean trannies shouldn't be violated in the process

>>515655630
Where are those "woods" where they found weapon ?

>>515657688
He's like 20 years old at most. Definitely not a pro. He's probably hiding out in some friend's basement or squirreled away in an a vacant building.

>>515657023
>we're not convinced of anything
most of the thread seems to be

I was looking at the Pinterest mentioned here and found a photo of the suspect: https://pl.pinterest.com/pin/67131850687569582/
See the logo in the top right it’s a clear rebrand of “Muslim Corps of the Caucasus”.
Coincidentally Kirk starts talking about Muslims being dangerous and he is killed?

Even if he is not the killer might be worth looking into.

You can try geolocate the shop the photo is in.

Found their yt channel, you can try to see if there are any clues on US activity:
https://youtube.com/@warforfreedom?si=Xse3LZFehEi-8bJp

>>515657688
He was a second or two away from being photographed by a dude on the left flank of his.
He wasn't spotted and recorded by sheer luck.
Also he immediately began booking it in the middle of town after the event, no one else was recorded doing that. He's running on pure luck, and he's also running out of it quick.

>>515657672
your picture drew curves on them like they were a woman, they are a man. Could be a troon, not sure, but definitely not a woman troon. clear?

>>515657672
There isn’t. There was some shit about trans shit being inscribed on one of the cartridges which had no source or evidence. Then some retard leafjeet posted a random tranny and ever since that about 4-5 hours ago it’s begun a rabbit hole. Doesn’t help that almost each and every trans person is a basket case and prone to looking suspect no matter the cause. Especially this one which likes guns and running on roofs.

>>515655171
We need to blame a troon, that's what the USA government wants.
Don't worry about the US constitution, they have neo Nazis laws now.

>>515657242
what are you talking about, a man who think he's a woman needs to be taken care of, whether he wants it or not. At what point we stopped thinking this is ok?

>>515656400
well, mental institutions or forced medication, whatever

>>515657071
You can see the phone bulging from the pocket in the pictures of him enroute to the rooftop where he had stashed the gun. But it could be offline.

You can buy a gun from a gun show without showing any id or license and with cash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

>>515657542
>>515657550
ok so that guy is very young in his 20's, full of adrenaline after killing someone and now having to lose cops, hanged from the ledge to make the fall smaller, this is a normal jump in these circumstances and nothing special lol

>>515657756
>>515655630

>>515657898
Yes, as the more savvy have said before us.
This was a completel amateur landing a standard shot at an immobile target. My only complaint with the angle is that I bet he was aiming to headshot Kirk but couldn't aim that well and the bullet hit his neck instead.

>>515657297
great, now i have a woody
yeah the feds already know, they are drafting arrest papers now, chrging documents, search warrants, this is a terrorism case, and possibly treason case, with international ties, foreign money, multiple persons, and co conspirators on top of murder and civil rights violations, one count for each hearer denied the right to hear charlie speak if the doj wants to go that route, plus incitement charges probably and the movement of money, laundering, campaign finance violations maybe, bank fraud, etc, it could be as big as epstein implicating israel in trying to frame iran or something, and could lead to an ill advised war or even civil war, i wish we had good people in charge instead of epstein protectors

>>515655540
Several different families live in one home in America. White people. It why there angry all the time.

>>515657934
No, it was to the left, between the brown spots. There is video of him running north across the browned ground.

>>515657023
>we build theories based on patterns
I hope you guys aren't planning to survive long in the event of a civil war because damn, the patterns this thread sees are so delusional that you'd probably mistake poisonous berries for strawberries

>>515657778
>friend's basement
doubt, comradery between troons ends when there's a bounty that could buy a """real vagina""" involved

>>515657266
Depends on severity but yeah you'll feel any sustained injury after the adrenalin wears off. Hours to days sometimes. That cunts heart rate is probably still rocking at 180 because he's now Americas most wanted. We'll probably fund the cunt hanging from a tree in a forest. Adrenalin can contribute to creating suicidal courage too.

>>515650670 (OP)
Getaway vehicle:
>Blue Honda Odyssey with no plates

Can someone bring me up to speed on this?

The date of the event was only announced 6 days before it took place. This was a crime of convenience, which leads me to believe the shooter lives nearby, or attends the university

>>515657023
>recent shootings have been perpetrated by trans

yeah

>working for the government recruited from discord by the feds

So mentally ill men who believe they are women and have visibly fucked up genes can't do bad shit because they're retarded & want to do it for evil's sake. It has to be da gubment. Sure

>>515654602
its not him he has a dot tattoo on his hand. Wrong troon

>>515658069
If this indeed turns out to be a far lef pro-muslim, pro-trans shooter who might have exchanged messages with unknown people abroad and had an unregistered firearm and ammo. Dude is fucked. And the organizations he was in are going to get dissolved, scrutinized or labeled as hate groups if not outright as terrorists too.
If his friends or family are shielding and hiding him. They are retarded. FED is cooking a specially complex case against him involving several layers, to make matters worse, right after the 9/11 anniversary when people are still sensible from that, the other stabbing and the shooting. Emotional bias might land him an extra charge or two + the incoming lawsuits he might be hit with from bystanders that claimed to have been traumatized by the shooting.

I would have turned this guy over ASAP. Anyone not giving tips but that know him are risking getting second class'd if something as little as a "was related to a terrorism case once" lands in their Palantir profile and their personal data that companies review for job offers.

>>515657878
>We need to blame a troon, that's what the USA government wants.
The government will deny us a wife with a monstrous cock and the people will be celebrating the government for it.

Live and let live is a good motto and I wish the conservatives lived by it, even Kirk was against gay and transgender people even tho he had a white wife and white kids no one stopped him from having that dream but he would deny me a wife with a cock. It is injustice.

>>515658431
>6 days
You can go from Israel to America in the same day retard

>>515658120
Don't underestimate the idealism of a young a radical.

>>515658524
I think they got him already and are seeing who moves and who communicates to try to take down his little network.

>>515658431
Not unless someone close to Charlie was leaking information.

Guys? Same hand posture and ears

>>515655068
That's just hat-hair

>>515658069
Why don't you use periods in your sentences? Is that a mobile thing?

>>515658733
yes it's him 100%, send this to the FBI

>>515658733
Nah, dude in your photo's build is way off. He's too thick in his build. Shooter is skinnier.

>>515658655
I'm just saying, he didn't have much time to plan it out perfectly. It was sloppy. He jumped off the damn roof and it looks like he sprained his ankle. But somehow he still got away.
>>515658686
This is always a plausibility

>>515658733
ears don't match

>>515658421
>>515658421
>>515658421
>>515658421
Can someone tell me how you guys know the getaway car?

>>515658524
>If this indeed turns out to be a far lef pro-muslim, pro-trans shooter who might have exchanged messages with unknown people abroad and had an unregistered firearm and ammo. Dude is fucked. And the organizations he was in are going to get dissolved, scrutinized or labeled as hate groups if not outright as terrorists too.
This
That's why even though all of the troons being put forward as "shooter" are totally not him, it is still productive
They are still exposing these deranged defectives and their ties/organization
Trump/FBI/DOJ can break lefties like the mob from this shit

>>515658979
Yeah like he did with the epstein files? He got all those pedo's right? Destroyed all their networks???

>>515658733
maybe, but hands are weird, plus watch on right hand, thats odd, thumbs in pockets do we have video of him speaking or walking?

>>515658773
Possibly, but you can see a hair tuft pushing upwards around the right ear and the hair pushing out from the back which is what happens to me personally if I dont wear hairgel or straighten and i have wavy hair naturally.

I refuse to believe we only have 3 videos of him on the roof.
>the two dudes zooming in on him while prone
>him running off the roof for like 9 frames after the shot
>CCTV of him jumping off the roof
With how many people were recording and streaming, we have to be missing something. I've been scanning the background of every video and (you) should be too.

>>515655943
People see troons all the time.
I see white men running not helping anyone else.

>>515658787
>>515658787
yes it is. when away from pc typing is hard, comma easier to use, its like reddit spacing, but pol spacing, it can even more terse but i'm being kind to new comers, avoiding pol cultural terms and such

>>515659179
like this, he obv has shorter hair.

>>515659228
their were 80 camera's facing the side of the pentagon when the "plane" hit in during 9/11

they confiscated all the camera footage and released one extremely low frame rate video of what occurred and it was indiscernible then "lost" the rest of all the camera's footage

I got distracted when doing a once over on this pic.
>Optic too far back. alluding to:
-shorter arms
-self mounted (red circle under front of optic)
-scared of recoil/weaker/likes to keep head back
-possible 3-9x Big box store optic, not familiar (you can kinda see an integrated throw rod set to what looks like 7x and a faint ring on the front of the scope. Not yellow enough for leupold)
-Upon further reflection: If the scope was mounted further forward, the bolt wouldn't be able to be unlocked and pulled to the rear properly due to the Optic. Explains the riding of the front optic mount
>Stock and other thoughts
-I'm guessing aftermarket
-scope rings rather than a rail or cantilever due to top loading
-Optic placement still would interfere with racking another round quickly, so they would've MADE SURE that was sighted in properly. I'm guessing there enough space out in Utah to do that without many people even knowing, even when needing 100-200 yards.
>I can tell you most indoor ranges don't allow 30-06,
>BUT this person likely has more than one gun and would likely use a local range prior to deciding to kill Charlie. Gun store employees would remember a twink tranny/lefty.
>If you're local to the area, not a bad idea to bring in a picture and ask if they've seen this person in the last couple months asking to shoot a 30-06. (after deciding to kill Charlie they would've stopped going to avoid backtracing)
-Trigger guard is a big tell that it was from an older model
-No sling = Definitely a commie that poses with it when going to range day with the homies...not carries it through the badlands

>>515658971
That is something going around Facebook conspiracy groups. There is no credible reports regarding that whatsoever.

>>515659422
thanks

>>515657627
you're on the right track. Open paint.exe and put it all together. Lets see all your evidence together. We may notice something else, but if it's tidy it'll be inarguable

>>515658511
Anon how the fuck is that dismissable all we have of guy on campus is low res security cam. A literal dot on the finger wouldn't show up.

>>515659359
expensive, hopefully he ordered because theyll hve client list, filter by state, city, and you have search warrant that can be upheld because narrow in scope and you have a suspect

>>515658733
Too muscular

>>515657338
Its a wig i think

>>515656214
I track people of hate it's usually Christians . There the biggest murders in the USA.
Funny as hell a Christian talking about mass troon shootings but says nothing about Christian mass shooters.
Then gets the Jesus ticket.

>>515657688
Checked. I remember my first jump from a height like that. I kneed myself in the face. If you look closely he attempted a roll-out but forgot that forward momentum was needed from a height like that.

>>515659228
he was way above the crowd, those could very well be the only videos of him on the roof. I think there must be other ring videos of him in the neighbourhood though. In the tmz footage you see him coming back and then? He has to pass in front of other houses for sure

>>515659407
The scope is that far back because that's the only way they could operate the action with those low optic mounts. Which were probably the only mounts he had

>>515659603
Its wild how you can just make shit up so confidently.

we can do it reddit

>>515659388
True, but there weren't dozens of "influencers" standing around the lawn of the Pentagon streaming to tiktok and jewtube. They can't confiscate what's already made its way to the internet

>>515659146
>Yeah like he did with the epstein files? He got all those pedo's right? Destroyed all their networks???
I think that is the rub
Why it is not too good to be true
Jews are White. Israel gets away with it.

>>515659603
cool larp faggot

>>515659690
true

>>515658111
oy vey, Herschel, that you?

>>515653461
No it was the ATF

>>515659636
yeah it's crazy that he hasn't been found yet despite how much everything is cctv'd

>>515653672
Wouldn't the bullet travel further in those frames. Like after the bullet appears there are two frames before it hits him. So the bullet travel only a short distance in those two frames.

>>515659615
which is why I think this anon made a match here >>515655577
They completely fuck up their momentum (hanging vs running start) onto an uneven surface and shocked for a second that they didnt roll

>>515659603
you ever run the numbers of Christians killed by communists since 1850? you probably should. but you'll need a large calculator

>>515659603
I guess since most niggers are Christians, your stats could be true

>>515656613
That's what they want.
That's what happens
It's manifesting
Trump wanted countries around the world to morn this activist.
Push back next month will have Americans in trouble.
Trump's a idiot

>>515659851
Yep. I really believed it was the projectile, more likely a gap in black shirts sleeve and chest breifly showed the white behind him.

>>515653464

Skye Valadez in converses

posting webms for reference

house 1 showing to and from campus

Christians, third worlders, trans .. they’re all the same level of low IQ retard

>>515659958
lmao at the children keeping their distance and not relaxing

>>515659838
Thanks. So pretty much the shooter will likely just have basic bitch Antifa ideological grounding. To him Kirk was a Nazi and a fascist, and that was why he'd think Kirk deserved it.

Whether tranny or not is probably not too relevant. Still highly possible, but just as likely an ally, a default kneejerk antifa liberal kid,

>>515659983
house 2 showing to campus

How has no one made the connection that August 13 is when Harrison Smith tweeted about Charlie Kirk thinking Israel will kill him?

Harrison Smith post on X about Charlie thinking Israel will kill him: 2025-08-13, 7:00PM UTC:
https://x.com/HarrisonHSmith/status/1955705962964111425

Instagram post from salty_n_cute showing "roof", "8-13", and a drawing of a person prone on a roof with a gun: 2025-08-14, 12:55AM UTC
(Instagram only shows the day and month, but inspect-elementing the date shows the actual time in UTC when the post was made: 2025-08-14T00:55:17.000Z)
https://www.instagram.com/salty_n_cute/p/DNUOm-NR3ZQ/

The Instagram post by salty_n_cute was made approximately 6 hours after the Harrison Smith post on X.

FIRST PERSON THAT RESPONDS TO ME NEEDS TO TAKE OVER BAKING THE BREADS , GODSPEED FAGGOTS. GET JUSTICE FOR THAT POOR WOMAN, CHARLIE'S WIFE
DESTROY OUR ENEMIES

Loaction

>>515660120
Ok

>>515659664
A lot of this gun is screaming broke. but it also could scream "small cash only". I wish they would take better pictures of it.

>>515650670 (OP)
As a troon myself I'm leaning mossad agent on this one. Sorry.

>They have videos of him
>Probably even more angles that haven't been publicly released
>Ring cameras that follow his escape path
>He's carrying his cell phone on him
They have to be closer to catching him than they're admitting publicly, right?

>>515659983
whats the strat with fake limping about?

>>515660039
>>515659983

assuming the limp has already been pointed out right?

>>515659407
This photo hasn't been concluded as being authentic, the primary source for it is the NYPost with and it is as blurry as your picture, same people did stories about Covid conspiracies and whatnot so take it with a grain of salt, same also about the caliper of the gun being .30-06 and the shooter shot FMJ bullets which is rare for .30-06

My main issue is that how did the NYpost get the image? Why is it so shit quality when phones from 2010 had considerably higher resolution it is not like a surveillance camera footage is it?

>>515651103
>tranny being a monolith fan of all things
Heh.
For those that don't know:
>A typical Monolithian is a former stalker brainwashed by one of the psychic emitters throughout the Zone (namely the Brain Scorcher) into serving the will of the C-Consciousness, unflinchingly loyal and ready to sacrifice himself at a moment's notice. This extreme loyalty is achieved by creating intense religious fanaticism in the mind of the stalker, directed towards the Monolith.

>>515660295
large rifle in pocket

>>515660314
THE LIMP?
OMG CHAT HE LIMPIN
HE DO GOT A LIMP!!!!
W

>>515653672
this is what started my Muzzle flash reflection theory. The Center for Social Impact roof is the only spot that could've been when considering the reflection of the flash, bullet in frame behind his head, and angle of the shot placement on the neck

>>515660295
>>515660314
possibly carrying rifle in trouser leg, hence only limping on way into campus

>>515659407
there's hilariously a longe range shooting place like down the road from UVU
check google maps

>>515660278
Considering this is a high profile hit, that will have a chilling effect on other Jew functionaries, there's no way they're intentionally making themselves look like incompetent fools.

>>515660329
There's another pic floating around with fbi holding up the cardboard box near the wooded area

>>515660364
isnt the rifle foldable? didnt he escape with it in the backpack after the shooting

Uhhh guys, was there anyone else up on the surrounding rooftops that day?

>>515653461
>>515656397
Oh you mean the article by the WSJ that is nowhere to be found anymore?
Like I said if you guys weren't so set on finding a tranny you guys could have found the killer by now. If it was Skye Valdez the FBI would have him on custody or at least posted about him already. Unless you want to say Trump appointed Kash is fucking stupid.

>>515660446
Then wouldn’t the limping leg need to be straight and not bending?

>>515660329
>My main issue is that how did the NYpost get the image?
The NY Post is notorious for their links to police and the FBI - to all spookdom, really. That's one of their main things and has been for decades.

>>515650670 (OP)
>pls help us four chan we need to find the killer, he killed a man who loved israel
kek, no

>>515660548
YWNBAW

>>515659946
The only thing I'm not accounting for is the time delay or lag from when the bullet first touches the skin, until the first physical reaction in the body. I.e. the time it takes for the energy in the bullet to transfer into his body causing a pressure wave or ripple propagate though his tissues, and involuntary muscle contractions which can be seen by an observer.
But I still presume that it would be less than 2 frames time span for this to occur considering just how close the "bullet" is to him prior.

>>515660329
also why did they have a cardboard rifle box in the woods? we're they carrying it with them? Is that grass type local to utah neighborhoods? I'm in the PNW and our woods don't have grass.

>>515660187
isn't "Mossad agent" just a very un-creative generic explanation for any covert shit at this point? Charlie was pro-isreal what reason would motivate the mossad to do this (that doesn't take a bunch of retarded mental gymnastics to come up with)?

For instance, Epstein being a Mossad asset makes sense. Blackmail influential figures with pedophilia, thereby increasing your control over the political system, then kill the guy when he gets arrested. That makes sense. What is the rationale for this though?

>>515658914
>sprained ankle
Now you're just making shit up.

>>515650670 (OP)
Why the hell do you assume it was leftists, much less "troons"???
The tranny shit was just retards running their mouth, not any truth

>>515659851
>Image
the bullet velocity can be estimated from the frame rate, but not well, which is why chronographs are used in ballistics instead of cameras, light doesnt reflect reliably and there is motion blur, once the bullet hits it decelerates dramatically, from thousands of feet per second to merely hundreds and it looks like he got hit with a bullet deflecting from chest plate armor, so the trajectory of the bullet changed as well allowing it to be slow enough to be captured on a few frames, but what you saw could be the spall shrapnel which moves even slower, the actual bullet would be moving around 2700 fps if 180 grain bullet or 2900 if 150 grain bullet but even that can vary a lot depending on shape of bullet, exact load, and length and tightness of the barrel, and distance and angle

>>515660541
FUCKING KNEW IT!

>>515660673
That picture doesn't prove that at all. An antifa saying 'gais it wasn't trans fake news' means nothing.

>>515656030
Thats something on the glass that video is filmed through. It looks like its moving because the camera is panning. It stays the same distance from the window frame as the camera moves.

>>515660650
This is woods around the homes of university professors so they have nice grass

Has anyone tried to look at the uni’s faggot club discord? Maybe there will be a clue in there

>>515660555
depends on how loose fitting the jeans are, though i suspect up close you would see some weird bulges. Also possible it is dissasembled into two smaller parts, or even part is above the waistband but under the shirt. or it could just be keyser soze trick

I dont understand how he dropped the gun in the park fully assembled, it wouldnt have fit in the back pack and it wasnt in his pants either(we know from the jump off the building) .

so what does this mean?? he reassembles the gun at the park or something else is going on here

>>515660548
>If it was Skye Valdez the FBI would have him on custody or at least posted about him already.
Yeah, that's true, that's a dead end.

Still, it was the state messaging that transsexual themed shit was written on his bullets.

We know so little so far, and apparently they don't know a whole lot more. We'll have to wait and see.

>>515660890
you see it covered in a black towel in his hand as he's running

>>515660688
Yeah, damn there are so many factors. I wonder if they will release an autopsy? In the USA they seem to for many high profile people.

>>515659407
it being a basic sporterized hunting rifle tells a lot about the shooter. he's not a gun enthusiast; he would have used a typical ar or similar if so. he almost certainly used this because it's all he had access to that could make the shot. he can shoot since he made the center of mass shot (not a hard shot for someone who can shoot, so he can); probably taught by a father or similar figure for hunting/target shooting.

>>515660964
>>515660667
There's no mistaking his limp in the last videos we have. He's not going to be doing much running.

BAKING

>>515660937
They wouldn't announce it was Skye Valadez unless they had them in custody already, it could just be that the troon didn't go back to their house and is still on the loose.

>>515660081
interesting enough to keep in mind
>>515660673
we dont assume, we notice recent trends of who the feds are grooming to do these sorts of things and ask questions about that first since the feds refuse to release the name until theyve charged them and have them safely tucked away in prison, its a tactic to avoid real accountability, just like with epstein

>>515656143
Funnily enough these are common in eastern Canada too. I’ve seen as many as 5 at once in a small thrift store.

someone needs to find this antifa fag and hang him already

>>515661112
seen running moments later >>515659983

Head of the Australian embassy publically hates Trump and Israel, is a former PM (has connections) and probably knows people in the ASIO.

Why are you all missing the Rudd connection.

>>515661130
If they had a name and a face, they'd share a name and face. As of last night, they do not. All those accurately named in these threads so far are certainly innocent.

>>515661192
Yes, for a short distance, then he stopped. When we last saw him he was limping so bad that any running would be difficult.

>>515661202
are you saying rudd has trooned out and killed chuck? i don't think the cartilage in his knees could have sustained that fall. outside of that, everything else marries up perfectly - motive, means, opportunity.

>>515652285
>>515652285
Omg look at the hydro-shock expanding the inside of his neck.

>>515660785
Why is that the assumption tho? Will just send you off the real trail?

>>515660489
Can you share? I have not seen it.

>>515660650
It could be that FBI brought the box so they can ship it to investigate.

>>515660548
It's still up but with a disclaimer that it may not be true.. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

>>515661058
they'll have to if the case goes to trial, it'll be public record as part of the trialevidene, but that could be 25 years from now, our government refuses to put the 9/11 hijackers on trial because israeli and saudi involvement would be exposed and the torture they subjected them to in gitmo and how the cia trained bin laden to fight the russians. theres always a political angle so many cases are pled down like the idaho 4 case to avoid the fake dna and the illegal ollection of americans dna from coming out

>>515661305
BIG

>>515661255
>Yes, for a short distance, then he stopped. When we last saw him he was limping so bad that any running would be difficult.

He was running fine on later doorbell footage, please familiarise yourself with the sources

>>515660039
>>515659983
concealing the weapon under his clothes or trying to mask his gait so he can't be identified

>>515661255
did you watch the end of the video? all the limping is from him on the way to the campus before the shot. everytime he is seen on camera after the shot he is running

So did he park a car somewhere in that suburban area? I think he must have done

>>515661305
yeah i hope thats all it is, i dont believe the musician theory myself, this was a professional hit, this is pure intelligence service shit

>>515661555
He looks too young to be some agent

useless cunt

>>515660541
where is this video. It's been taken off his tiktok

>>515661341

The cartilage isn't too much of an issue desu, he could have gotten knee replacements or something.

Could have also just got a hack to do it for him.

>>515660626
Who would want to be. Keep looking at trannies Instagrams and X pages to find your killer. You might catch a glimpse of their cocks. After all you can use that as an excuse to watch tranny porn.

>>515660295
Maybe avoids gait identification

>>515661542
yeah probably, or at the church maybe, who knows? maybe he lives near there, he seems to know the area really well
>>515661602
egg muffin and robert gates and rex tillerson recruit them out of the mormon church and boy scouts at even younger ages

>>515661772
>new
>Man running in the crowd
>Might have hand gun
>maybe* its not gun, maybe* has legit reason to be armed
https://files.catbox.moe/sd1r3f.mp4

>>515661718
i see the resemblance

>>515661341
Are you retarded? Its not a big fall. Im 38 and can do that fall
Anyone fit can, as they can hang on 1 arm
People so fat they no longer understand what humans can do lmao

>>515662164
Glad to see other people are finally getting into some serious analysis of the facts.

>>515662164
Kevin Rudd is 67 years old

>>515661919
thats suspicious, he comes up out of the crowd, could be security but hes staying low and weaving, hes highly trained and hes moving away from the action, fleeing or prepping an exit for charlie if security, looks like he might have a vest underneath so probably security but we've always said the shot looks like it came from low and to the right and the sound was loud so this guy needs to be checked out and traced through the crowd

>>515662436
>>515661919
you would at least put it in your pocket if you had just shot chuck. I would assume this guy is legally armed and is prepared for self defense, not the shooter.

>>515662403
They want you to think that.

>>515662529
its still worth tracing his movements backwards all day

>>515662403
And i know a friends dad who is 72 and runs mega marathons few times a year, your point?