Thread 515701880

Is Yang right?

no never not

>>515701880 (OP)
He isn't not correct

>>515701880 (OP)
No, 9/11 destroyed America and made Israel and global Jewry powerful. That is until Israel is destroyed and Jews lose, then Yang is right.

>>515701880 (OP)
Weren't some of the top nazis occultists?
Also lots of influential american figures were freemasons, including many of the founding fathers.

>>515701880 (OP)
I think its true. Terrorists and occultists are people of vices and extremities. When they win, their victory is almost never beneficial for the peasants. Occultists seems to win more frequent than terrorists, because they are schizo smart and know how to be puppet masters

>>515701880 (OP)
Japtrash. This is what they used to kill the samurai spirit in the hearts of the jap men.

>>515701880 (OP)
This is a very weak take from Yang, but suits his idealist views. I havent seen enough of Lotgh, but I hope there is some kind of space Thule Society that makes Yang second guess this.

>>515704308
Occultists have never stopped winning since the first priest/shaman class studied the change of seasons and developed agriculture. All culture is an extension of the occult, the words even have the same root

>>515701880 (OP)
this is the point where they ran out of plot in LoGHs. when reinhard and yang are rising has a lot of strong plots, but once reinhards rise is completed there's not much left for the series other than switzerland is where the merchants do evil star trek animated things. yang's capture was the last good bit then it was loose thread failure to wrap.

>>515701880 (OP)
*Gets assassinated by terrorists*

>>515704705
But we are talking about modern cult, the cult that is probably LoTGH is referring to.
Old occultism was about worshiping the mystery of nature, new occultism worships death and power. Ancient cults did manage to evolve humanity with their teachings and observations, but you cant expect to see good deeds from death cults that rule this world.

>>515705592
>the cult that is probably LoTGH is referring to.
it doesn't develop that faction after 70 episodes of the democracy vs hegemony. it just shows up as a fourth season star trek side quest. I liked some of the art from that arc but it doesn't say anything about the secret organization unlike say SEELE in eva.

>>515706121
Yeah, that arc was a bit rushed, but the Frezzan cult was made with puppetmaster cults like Freemasons in mind. It would have been interesting if they had expanded upon it and showed more from this occult-based political angle, but it is what it is.

>>515705592
What we might call "High level occultism" is stolen Egyptian magic, which is recovered and decoded magic taken from obelisks which survived the flood left behind from the line of Cain, who inherited sacred knowledge from Cain given by God. However, Cain perverted the knowledge given to him and misused it in conjunction with the Watchers to create the nephilim and corrupt the antedeluvian world

"Low level occultism" would be the magic taught by the watchers to humans in the antedeluvian world, and at various points since the flood in the instances where demons interact with witches and the possessed

This is my understanding from a few years of study, anyway

>>515707153
>>515707153
>This is my understanding from a few years of study, anyway
So you played Vampire the Masquerade, you enjoyed its lore, and looked a bit further into it. Im pretty sure its more than that

>>515707724
rather than snark and witticisms do you have anything substantive to say?

>>515701880 (OP)
Yang Wen Li was not wrong, neither was Reinhard

>>515704347
Yeah, the Terraists kill him.

Yang died proving that he is wrong

>>515708334
Like what more do you want me to say, fellow VTMB enjoyer? Modern cults are death cults that corrupt and destroy in order to maintain power and satisfy their lust. Ancient cults used to worship nature. Most of them were good willed at heart, except from some perverted ones (like the mesoamerican ones) that managed to prevail and evolve to modern cults.
If you want hints:
>there are some crumbs of truth in Drowned God in terms of how occult knowledge was spread, which aligns with the Hermetic teachings
>Philosophical God is the only true god
>Chemistry is the essence of reality
>As above so below, but not the corrupted version

>>515701880 (OP)
He's right, occultism and terrorism has changed history many times, but often in ways that is unseen or unexpected.

>>515702681
>constructive

>>515701880 (OP)
Yang is always right because he's the author's self insert.

>>515709827
I read the book of Enoch and other apocrypha years before I completed VTMB
I dont even know if WoD lore has nephilim? Watchers? Hybrid species and genetic corruption from nephilim raping humans and animals? I played the game because it is a neat time capsule from the early 2000s like Phoenix Wright. I dont particularly care for the story.

And I dont find it particularly compelling that you are couching what you want to say in "hints"
Theres no need to be cryptic, speak boldly

We know that Egyptian sorcerers had access to /some/ magic. This is because the Pharaoh's sorcerers were able to replicate 2 out of the 3 miracles that Moses performed. I dont need some occultic dork from the 80s to tell me what is plainly deducible fom what is written in scripture. Maybe you needed it spelled out for you.

What is terrorism? According to google it’s using violence to instill fear, but then the atomic bombs were terrorism, and so were the gulags, gitmo, dictatorships around the globe, I mean isn’t the threat of violence to instill enough fear to get your way the main principle of war? I don’t get it. Aren’t nuked terrorism since the definition includes the threat of violence? Isn’t “don’t fuck with us or we drop a nuke on you” a way to instill fear?
I don’t know, maybe I’m overthinking it

>>515701880 (OP)
>>515701880 (OP)

>>515701880 (OP)
Lol no, terrorism is how thr state of Israel was created and continues operating. 9/11 retard

>>515701880 (OP)
He’s completely wrong on this. Most of history is shaped by small but powerful groups. Lookup the Pareto principle, it’s literally a law of nature.

>>515712718
>constructive

>>515710282
For the jews that's constructive.

>>515701880 (OP)
John Brown completely changed the US to this day.

>>515701880 (OP)
Christianity literally changed the world

>>515701880 (OP)
He's wrong though

>>515701880 (OP)
>not constructive in any way
That's the point, terrorism is supposed to be destructive
dumb yang take

>>515714403
Prove it. Yang doesn't even know what Christianity is.

>>515710990
Drowned god mentions the "manimals" in the game, but they are not rapechildren, they are a form of experimentation. Vampires in VTMB are hybrids from what I remember.
>And I dont find it particularly compelling that you are couching what you want to say in "hints"
Theres no need to be cryptic, speak boldly
I just dont want to turn this /pol/ thread to /x/, but I will briefly humor you, since its a slide thread.

You can see worshipers and early occult findings in cave paintings that predate Abrahamic, Messopotamic and Sumerian teachings. There are documentaries about them.
If you read Epitectus enchiridion, you can interpolate an decent interpretation of God from there. Logos=sentience=link to God. A deed that is good, is good in accordance to both logos and nature and therefore good with God.
According to Hermetic teachings, a prophet that went by the name Hermes Trismegistus, appeared in key moments in human history to share his knowledge with humans. The kybalion documents one of his appearances around the Egyptian age, but if you take Drowned god's lore into consideration, these kinds of hyper intelligent beings have always been here since the beginning of time to guide humanity. They also predate humanity and are probably its creators.
The game identifies them as aliens, but imho this might not be the real case
Lots of modern religions are based on these teachings, but the original meaning symbols got either lost in time, or twisted to become hidden knowledge, so all we have got are different versions of the Egyptian religion

>>515701880 (OP)
He is but he also died by being shot by a terrorist/cultist
Real change is large scale and systematic, seizing the reins of power.
Terrorists don’t effect real change because they are too small scale

>>515701880 (OP)
If only Kircheis were still alive...

>>515701880 (OP)
We didn't care about this garbage in The Year 2000

The assassination of McKinley turned America from bastion of freedom to a progressive globalist warmongering golem of the synagogue of Satan.

>>515701880 (OP)
No.
WWI, you stupid monkeys.

>>515701880 (OP)
For a supposed historian Yang was an absolute retard for not mantling Cincinnatus and becoming one of the most virtues people of his time.

>>515714403
Both Old Testament theology and New Testament theology shaped the world in different ways at different times- the world going from an unimaginably cruel and chaotic place, to an orderly and caring place.

When you carefully study scripture and history, you can actually see - in some scale - as to what God was doing. The first step in the Old Testament was to give righteous humans the tools and ability to vanquish the growing evil present in the ancient world (resurgence of sorcerery by Egyptians and resurgence of giants: Jebusites, Amalekites, Anakites), and once evil was defeated physically, Christ arrived to be sacrificed- and God showed humans what perfect love and perfect mercy looked like- and what it means to vanquish evil spiritually.

Humanity went from human sacrifice (pagan), to God commanding Abraham to sacrifice his son and then stopping him (Old Testament religion), to God sacrificing His own Son - something He never asked humans to do (Christianity)

Its very touching to reflect on

>>515702681
WWII did that. 9/11 just exposed the U.S as being Israel's golem

>>515701880 (OP)
What the fuck are you talking about, terrorism has changed history. Gavrilo Prinzip achieved everything he was set out to do, long term.

>>515716434
>>515715820
>Assassinates Franz Ferdinand and starts WW1
>""constructive""
More like destructive lmao. You niggas need to read OP's pic again

>>515715222
You are very misguided and falling for occultic nonsense. This Hermetic garbage is navelgazing nonsense. Gnostic heresy is nothing but elaborate fiction that is meant to excite and distract otherwise intelligent men. Christianity and specifically Catholicism are the divine truth- if you study the occult long enough you will eventually come to this realization. Because once you understand the occult is ultimately the study of demons, and you learn that demons are real, it rapidly becomes clear that the institution that has been fighting demons for millennia can be the only one true religion.

The Egyptians and Sumerians probably both inherited some amount of pre-flood knowledge on magic.

This can be deduced because Both the Egyptians and Sumerians were very interested in geometry and specifically radian/degree math. Which is not only incredibly advanced for their time, but also an important thing to understand for demonology purposes. The Egyptians had 36 decans, which corresponded to star constellations, and 36 * 10 = 360 degrees for a circle. The Sumerians used a base 60 numbering system which enabled them to perform geometric computations in radians/degrees much easier

As you learn in the Lesser Key of Solomon, demons are inextricably tied to star constellations and the zodiac. Egyptians and Sumerians needed to have advanced geometric math computations easily performed in radian/degree units to perform their magic, based on star constellations and zodiac

>>515701880 (OP)
He is speaking comparatively to the power of semi-circle formations

>>515716053
Every episode:
>Yang please take autocratic authority
>the masses are screaming for it
>the military is behind you
>you'd be the best at it
>you could even go home and abdicate to a civilian government when you were done
>the entire galaxy would thank you
Yang: NO WAY FAG

>>515708803
Yang was a radical democrat blinded by romaticism.

>>515701880 (OP)
Occultism has literally been the architect, enforcement, and engine of the modern world for at least two hundred years (but really since the death and resurrection of Christ).

>>515718754
>Occultism has literally been the architect, enforcement, and engine of the modern world
Since Cain killed Abel

>>515701880 (OP)
He's a retard
America is literally the result of terrorism against the British "Empire" (which at the time consisted of America and....Britain)

>>515717063
Led to the American century, after Europe was totally destroyed.

>>515718754
>death and resurrection of Christ

fake and gay

>>515717830
>You are very misguided and falling for occultic nonsense
There are so many things written about occult stuff, to the point that if you are not really initiated and have access to the real stuff, you wont know whats really going on.
I tend to take Occultism with a grain of salt and try to reach my own conclusions, usually derived from the self and what is, or can be real or an illusion or a tale. This is probably the best approach to that kind of stuff.
>This Hermetic garbage is navelgazing nonsense
Could be, but I find the "as above, so below" and the "everything vibrates" theories kinda legit.
>occult is ultimately the study of demons
I will agree with you to a big extent, but demonology and coming in contact with demons, could be interpreted as a psychotic placebo effect manifested by drugs and deep meditation. It could also be astrology merged with mythos as well.
If you know how a demon summoning ritual works, you would probably understand what Im talking about. Maths, or mathematical knowledge, used to exist since the Neanderthal age, since there are findings of basic math appliance in prehistoric periods according to wikipedia. Its only logical to assume that humanity was advanced enough to reach geometry during the summerian age

>>515721235
>demonology and coming in contact with demons, could be interpreted as a psychotic placebo effect manifested by drugs and deep meditation
Bro please dont tell me you are falling for this Solipsism nonsense, did you really get filtered by a such a low power demonic psy-op?

>>515722737
lol, this is from my carl jung readings.
Why are you so adamant that your theories are correct and not a psy-op? Have you encounter actual proof of demon existence? You could be sitting in the same psy-op boat with me lol

>>515718514
We all know that Yang had different plans for certain "citizens" in the FPA.

>>515701880 (OP)
>who are the bolsheviks
>what is rabbinic judaism
try again faggot

>>515701880 (OP)
Tell that to Franz Ferdinand

>>515723209
You're talking about all these lame pop-sci nonsense talking points. Energy, vibration, meditation, drugs, you are basically falling for demonic tricknology tailored to 110 IQ midwits

I told you everything you need to know, read scripture, read history, read apocrypha - bro you are quoting VTMB and point and click adventure games. You are talking like a boomer beatnik who dropped acid. This is Bill Hicks tier nonsense "We're, like, all one consciousness, maaaaan". This is one lie told by demons, because demons cleverly invert all of God's truths.

Humans are not all part of one consciousness, we are separate and distinct. If youre going to fall for a demonic psy op at least make it past the 110 IQ gate and fall for the 120+ IQ psychological traps

>>515724248
>bro you are quoting VTMB and point and click adventure games
Yeah I should have quoted Doom instead, since you are so into demonlogy
>You are talking like a boomer beatnik who dropped acid
The irony of this sentence lmao
>We're, like, all one consciousness, maaaaan
What is the monomyth, and what is the cultural consciousness.
>If youre going to fall for a demonic psy op
Give me a tangible proof of demons since you insist so much, and I will shut up. Otherwise, for me, demons are a placebo manifestation of a higher consciousness derived from ancestral/cultural collective inside the mind

>>515725500
>Give me a tangible proof of demons since you insist so much
The Catholic witch trials are very reliable evidence, and again, we can look at the progress of geometric study, and intense study of the stars of the Sumerians and Egyptians and correlate with Apocrypha like the Testament of Solomon which confirms the relationship between the zodiac and demons

Look you probably just lack the IQ necessary to connect data points and see patterns

>>515702681
>Thinking it was 9/11 that made jewry powerful

NGMI

>>515705362
It was a false flag!

welp...

>>515701880 (OP)
Israel was founded through terrorism

>>515726181
"The Catholic witch trials are very reliable evidence"
>Be a man of the church in Dark Ages
>Peasants approach you to tell you that there is a girl who gets possessed by Satan in their village.
>She also curses God, her parents, and chants spells before she gets possessed.
>This coincides with the tuberculosis epidemic, so she must be a witch
>Decide to arrest her, drop her in the dankest cell and see how she reacts
>She does actually curses God, chants weird things and then she ends up spazzing out on the floor
>We need 2 men to restrain her every time we force her to denounce Satan via exorcism
>Thankfully we didnt contract tubercolosis from her spell, but we are pretty sure she is a witch
>Burn her at the stake
>Local village rejoice, and Church man saves the day
I hope you do understand that you sound just as silly as I do with all that /x/ talk

>>515726646
I'm not sure I can answer that. I think the real issue here is that it's a very small group of people who are in control of the world, and they are using the media to spread propaganda and brainwash people.

>>515727618
Israel was handed to the Rothschilds by the British in exchange for finance. The terrorism came after and wasn't really necessary.