Thread 515738385

HAHAHAH THEY CANT ACTUALLY GIVE HIM THE DEATH PENALTY IN UTAH FOR "AGGREVATED MURDER" HAHAHHAHAHAHAA

LMFAOOOO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Utah

niggers tongue my anus

>>515738385 (OP)
They can do what they like if the theres enough political will

>>515738385 (OP)
Those aren't the final charges. Prosecutors have to charge him with something simple so they can arrest him, and then usually a few weeks later they throw the entire book at them once they have all the evidence. Nigga is going to get a firing squad.

>>515739444
>something simple
"aggrevated murder" is the only one that can get you the death sentence in Utah. Look at the definition. They have nothing.

>>515739444
>Nigga is going to get a firing squad.
That sounds like justice. That's about square.

federal prosecution will give him the death penalty, though!

>>515738385 (OP)
Good. Death penalty should be abolished.

>>515738385 (OP)
Federal charges, retard. You are a dumbfuck.

>>515738385 (OP)
Good, 400 years in prison with niggers is preferable

>>515739551
Dial 8, tranny

>>515738385 (OP)
>German subhuman trying to understand American law

>>515738385 (OP)
Let's see what they charge him with, officially, before you faggots start jumping to conclusions. Speaking of jumping, you should find the highest building and try it out yourself.

>>515739551
>the actor knowingly created a great risk of death to another individual other than the deceased individual and the actor
seems simple enough to get him on this. firing into a large crowd? sorry nigga, he's gonna fry

>>515738385 (OP)
He was never going to get it anyway, he had help and they’re going to want to names to see if there’s any connection to an actual group, antifa or otherwise, first thing they’d offer is life without parole in exchange, and lil Tyler doesn’t seem like the type to stand up to very much interrogation considering he ratted himself out less than a day later

>>515738385 (OP)
I would not be surprised if they bring back the death penalty because of this.

>>515739790
Yeah but that doesn't mean shit. The way the courts work he won't be convicted and sentenced for years and by 2028 Trump will have fucked up so badly that there will be a Dem president who will just stall the clock on execution and commute the sentence before leaving office just like Biden did. They'd have better odds of an execution if they left it to the states but that would kinda give up the ghost about how limp-dicked and useless the feds are.

>>515738385 (OP)
Now watch as Trump pardons him next

>>515740320
you cant simultaneously claim this and convince a jury that it was a targeted assassination with a precise shot. you will never get 12 jurors to agree on this retard.

>>515738385 (OP)
>Shooting into a crowded venue
Read the third point and reconsider your statement.

>>515739551
He's going to catch federal terrorism charges. The state charges are just the beginning.

>>515738385 (OP)
Mossad patsy confirmed.

they're raiding the house btw

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPIK4mEmu5w

>>515738385 (OP)
Read #3 you absolute nigger faggot

>>515740497
That’s why we need to abolish the courts of law

>>515740497
retarded german lol

>>515738385 (OP)
They are going to charge him with Domestic Terrorism

>>515740602
>raiding
That implies forceful entry, you mean searching?

Or are they swatting the father who reported him lmao
Is that what I am meant to take away here

>>515740497
Just look at the attempt on trump. A Utah jury will absolutely convict and recommend the death penalty

>>515738385 (OP)
They're hitting him with federal terrorism charges. He's going to ADX Florence.

>>515738385 (OP)
I feel like being forced to live locked up for the rest of your life is probably worse than being killed

It's going to be a federal case.

>>515738385 (OP)
didn't even have to read past #3, firing a gun into a crowd of people certainly qualifies

>>515740497
The house always wins. See Epstein. If they can't get the death penalty they will just put him in the same solitary cell with a psychomaniac murderer and play Candy Crush on their iPhone as he is stabbed and raped to death. This is not Germany. Once the federal government has you in their sights there is nothing you can do to stop them from doing whatever they want including killing you.

>>515740872
sure whatever you want frenchie cuck

>>515738385 (OP)
Read your own source, retarded power faggot.

>>515739551
>>515739444
>>515738830
>>515738775
January 6th boomers were being locked into torture devices for 10 hours at a time which caused severe damage to their joints and permanently damaged them. The same thing needs to happen to this terrorist, as hard as legally possible just like they did to J6ers.

>>515741194
Just do a public hanging or firing squad. No need to torture, let's not debase ourselves to their level

NOOOOOO
NOW HE WILL HAVE TO GET HIS ASS RAPED BY BBC IN PRISON FOR THE NEXT 6 DECADES

>>515741416
true that fag would probably like it. better to fill his nigger brain with a volley of bullets

>>515738385 (OP)
That's nice. Send him to gitmo.

why is a german reading from a fucking wikipedia entry implying he understand anything about american laws?

you guys are retarded sometimes

>>515741194
>January 6th boomers were being locked into torture devices for 10 hours at a time
please elaborate

>>515738385 (OP)
Good
Charlie's family lost a husband and father.
I don't want someone else to lose their son.
>>515740580
but probably this, and probably why he won't even make it through trial

>>515738385 (OP)
>The affidavit said the officer believed Robinson shot Kirk “in a circumstance that put many around him at grave risk of death.” That appears to line up with a death penalty factor in the state’s aggravated murder law
Cry harder nigger. Your boy is toast.

>>515738385 (OP)
Isn’t the death penalty kinder and more humane than making someone live the rest of their life in prison?

>>515741416
lmao this is the most reddit post ive seen today

>>515741570
Why would niggers rape their friend?

>>515742022
checked. digits confirm

>>515740497
He fired into a crowd of people. He hit his target but everyone else was still at risk, just like that fireman who died wasn't the target but took a bullet anyway.

>>515738385 (OP)
>retard rushes to Wikipedia for cope
>literally wrong by point 3, when the guy fired a rifle from a long range at a crowd of a thousand people a year after someone did the same to Trump and killed a bystander
>hardline religious conservative state with an immense bias for Trump and Kirk

>>515738385 (OP)
Actually it was planned on discord across state lines

He literally crossed state lines

>>515740497
Uh, yes you can. Last time a sniper made a shot they killed someone in the background. He's getting the death penalty.

He was a tool for Mossad and will be disposed of.

Still not a fucking word in the media about this jew.

>>515738385 (OP)
They'll charge him with domestic terrorism or something federally if they have to. He's dying.

>>515738385 (OP)
>uses wikipedia
:and there i was repeating what wiki told me:
fake news troon

>>515738385 (OP)
Killing him would be more humane than having him rot in prison from 22 to whenever he gets shanked to death by Tyrone or Julio.

>>515742945
>mossad

>>515739898
fag

>>515738385 (OP)
It doesn't matter because when the Dems win the White House, he's getting a pardon and they're going to put him in charge of liquidating Trump and his movement. He's going to go down as an anti-fascist hero with a body count in the millions.

>>515739898
fag

>>515738385 (OP)
>planned it out with malice and forethought
How is this not first degree?

I am pretty sure that Bondi will just bump it up to federal crime by adding a "Terrorism" charge to it. I wouldn't worry about it to much he will probably end up in front of a firing squad at some point but not until after Tyrone and Jamal have thoroughly run him through for a few years.

>>515739551
check number 3 in your list. he shot him in a crowd of people. they could argue that knowlingly put others at great risk of death.

>>515740497
You're a towelhead in Germany, you have no idea how USA law works.

>>515741063
Do you have brain damage?

>>515738385 (OP)
He's going to be dead.

>>515743698
The judeo-christians need to go.
Boy I hate them so much bros. I trully do.

>>515738385 (OP)
Execute him and televise or live stream it.

>>515741416
Wrong country faggot leaf

>>515744243
That's what I'm hoping for. Televised firing squad. Make this trial and execution fast too.

>>515742142
>he thinks niggers think of leftists whites as their friends

>>515741784
Joe Biggs the infowars reporter is who I hears this from, he spent time in prison over J6.

>>515738385 (OP)
Typical Mormons protecting mormons

Honestly getting raped by BBC is worse than death.

>>515738385 (OP)
He is literally being charged with aggravated murder, he's going to be perforated by the firing squad. You lost.

>>515738385 (OP)
>in Utah
It's a federal crime, retard

>>515738385 (OP)
But Charlie Kirk is from Arizona, meaning he crossed state lines to get to Utah!

He will be charged federally.

>>515738385 (OP)
#3 is clearly applicable for a guy shooting into a crowded public event

>>515744742
Really is gay that we dont do firing squad executions anymore. They used to be spectacles for a reason.

>>515738385 (OP)
Charlie Kirk was within inches of other persons.
>The murderer knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than the victim and the murderer;

>>515738385 (OP)
American justice system is a clown show anyway
90% of the lawyers are jews, 50% of the judges and the juries are "diverse" to the max

He'll probably get federal terrorism charges as well.

>>515745164
In Utah they can choose between the jab and the firing squad

>>515744510
If they want to send a strong message, he needs to be made an example of in a very public way. If they have the dude dead to rights, which appears to be the case, then he needs to be yeeted before apathy starts to set in.

>>515739444
This explains the Obstruction charge.

>>515738385 (OP)
>Knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than the victim and murderer

Firing a rifle into a crowd kind of ticks the box, Mustafa.

>>515738385 (OP)
It was the definition of terrorism

So he’s making a plea deal that includes snitching

>>515738385 (OP)
They can do whatever the fuck they want. You guys have completely broken down the bounds of law over the last several centuries, and now you think that it will prevent good people from punishing you?

>>515744398
charged != sentenced

>>515738385 (OP)
He will be charged by the feds not the state of Utah, Hans, and the feds are the most efficient users of the death penalty in the country. States rarely execute in a timely fashion, but the feds always do.

I know it’s not a popular opinion but I don’t think he should be killed. He’s young and was clearly misled/groomed. He’s not inherently evil, one look at his photos will tell you that.

>>515745635
What plea deal retard? He was acting alone!

>>515740497
Wanton disregard for the crowd if you miss or even just the potential stampede / crush you create by panicking them once the shot rings out is enough.

>>515738385 (OP)
>3
he fired a gun into a crowd of hundreds of people.
hes going to fry

>>515740023
You American motherfuckers are literally the trash of Europe. Fckin Protestants and potato eaters. You should all die and the world will be good.

>>515738385 (OP)
Number 3 could apply

>>515746134
Hmmmmm
No
He will be fucking killed like a pig
And That's A Good Thing™

>>515738385 (OP)
I am fine with it.

In the end he only killed one dude. Like sirhan sirhan or Billy Ray Cyrus. Let him rot forever. Im fine with it

>>515738385 (OP)
If Utah doesn't have him shot, the Feds will shoot him up till his eyeballs invert

>>515746134
I think neither capital punishment nor life in prison are ideal justice.

Lots of people seem to suggest more and more gruesome punishments make our justice system better.

>>515746966
I suggest looking into the execution of Robert Damiens for inspiration for cases like this

>>515738385 (OP)
Oh no, he's going to be gang raped by niggers for the next 60 years.

>>515738385 (OP)
>>515739551
>>515740497
You are retarded. Wikipedia does not contain all the laws.>>515738385 (OP)
In any event, definitions 3, 11-3, or 18 would be provable.
You are doubly a retarded knave
because a different jury decides the sentence of life/death than the one that decides whether he committed aggravated murder.
>>515740702
You are retarded. What would replace them? Summary execution by retarded faggot? America is not France
>>515743618
^^^
>>515743716
^^^
>>515744072
^^^

This site thinks im spamming but plenty of anons see 3. A jury in utah would convict in a second

>>515738385 (OP)
he can still get the federal death penalty, though
and prbly will

>>515739898
fag

>>515739551
Please define aggrevated murder for the audience

>>515739898
fag but I agree

>>515738385 (OP)

Jailtime is worse than death penalty

>>515743698
Carlson and Walsh (and Shapiro) are the highest value targets. Who cares about the moron Tim Pool? Pro-Palestinians far leftists actually like Candace Owens.

>>515746966
For cases where enough agree the act warrants it and there is no possible doubt about who the perpetrator is the death sentence it the best way, not because of how it punishes them but of how it simply ends the matter for the rest of us.
If you undeniably did something abhorrent society should simply not have to bear any further cost to keep you around. It is way better to spend those resources virtually anywhere else, which is the most just you can get at the societal level.
I know it is said that capital punishment is often surprisingly expensive or whatever, but that is more an issue of implementation than the idea.

>>515738385 (OP)
>utah
>a state of heretic neoprotestant npc retards
Not surprised. Isnt that the state with the largest number of npc neochristcuck idiots (mormons) while also being the state with the most porn watched or something of that sort? You deserve it, divine punishment. American variety of cuckstianity is a millstone on their necks, always was always will be

>>515738385 (OP)
He's probably going to be suicided in prison anyway

ameriburger 'justice'

>>515740559
>>515740626
This, it's obvious af.

>>515741194
No the fuck they didn't.

Boomer joints were destroyed on J6, but only because it was the first time they moved in about 6,000 bigmacs.

>>515738385 (OP)
They haven't even charged him yet. Dumbass. They have 72 hours

The federal government can easily declare it terrorism and kill him. Retarded kraut, stay out of American affairs.

>>515738385 (OP)
Pam Bondi will do federal charges like Luigi.
And she will screw them both up like Diddy.

Death is too good for him he should be locked in a 2m2 concrete box to marinate in for the remaining 60 years of his life.

No bed, no recreation, just cold concrete.

>>515739444
they don't execute anyone anymore
they don't execute home invaders who carve up some granny
they aren't going to execute some assassin of a talking head

>>515738385 (OP)
>LMAO AHAHAH THEY CANT PUT AN INNOCENT WHITE COP IN JAIL FOR A NIGGER OVERDOSING ON THE DRUGS HE SWALLOWED TO AVOID GOING TO JAIL

>>515740497
you retarded or just pretending?

>>515738385 (OP)
the 3th on that list is suitable if they just want to interpret it like that, no biggie really

also
>pecuniary gain
just say murder was done with monetary profit in mind (or just say "if you done merced' up you gonna get executed' up") for fucks sake (ffs)

>>515738385 (OP)
number 3
he shot at a stage packed with third parties

>>515751476
profit isn't always monetary
>I'll give you drugs
>I'll give you my car
>I'll use my authority of some type to approve something you want or disapprove something you don't want

>>515739551
A special exception can always be made.

You don't understand how lawyers and especially prosecutors think. They'll charge him with that based on the 3rd item, 'great risk of death to a person other than the victim' and argue that had the shooter missed Kirk, he would probably have hit one of the people standing behind him.

The defense to that would be that the defendant is an excellent marksman or the like. If he actually has marksmanship qualifications from a gun club or competitive shooting, he'll be OK. If he's just ho-hum and hit the jackpot despite the odds, then it depends what the jury had for lunch. It does help that he used a bolt action and left the empty cartridge in the chamber, which eliminates any risk of accidental discharge.

>>515738385 (OP)
The’ll get him for 18/19 you absolute retard. The great bodily injury before death is obvious and the fact he tried to explode his head in front of 3000 people shows the depravity of his mind.

>>515738385 (OP)
Then lynch him, I don't care.
Not only should he be killed, but there should be public hangings of democrats and others who labeled all their political enemies as nazi/fascist/threat to democracy in the hopes that someone would kill them like they did to Charlie Kirk.
Hang em all.

>>515738385 (OP)
>The murder was committed by means of the administration of a poison or of any lethal substance or of any substance administered in a lethal amount, dosage, or quantity;
lmao
so lethal injection is worse than shooting someone
and how do they kill you if you lethally inject someone?

>>515740497
>Nooooo it's totally safe and not a risk to people around him to shoot at him!!

>>515752060
the neck shot is great bodily injury adjacent to or in causation of death
18/19 is if you chop off an arm before the head or chop up the body after

>>515752060
Retarded, by definition such injuries would be survivable. Kirk's death was about as clean and fast as it gets notwithstanding the amount of blood.
Before any faggots complain I know full well he'll be hit with federal charges, including conspiracy. But the state of Utah will likely prosecute him as well. I am just being autistic about a legal issue.

>>515738385 (OP)
Good, he can serve as a slowly withering cautionary tale as time executes him anyway - or he dies by his own hand.

>>515738385 (OP)
So he spends the rest of his life in jail getting backshots from tryrone and bubba

>>515749007

Utah has death penalty for terrorism charges which if you read that law this event clearly qualifies.

>>515741784
I hear they used the old concentration camp masturbation machines, taken from you guys after the war

>>515740875
trump is an elected official, which is one of the requisites for a capital crime. charlie kirk was a fundraiser

>>515752701
Unlikely. Someone who pulls off a perfectly kino murder and successfully evades the cops only to be betrayed by his sheriff dad will be a celebrity in prison, as long as he doesn't let it go to his head and become an asshole he'll be fine. Boneheads will likely leave him alone because Kirk was an Israel shill.

I hope he gets phlegm for every meal until he is shot live on TV

>This is how Bernie can still win!
kek why are leftoids like this?

>>515752890
Yep- this was 100% terrorism.
They want conservatives afraid that if they get labeled a nazi/fascist/threat to democracy, they will be killed.
This is classic definition of terrorism, and they should 100% execute him.

>>515738385 (OP)
>The murder was committed incident to an act, scheme, course of conduct, or criminal episode during which the murderer committed or attempted to commit... burglary
He was trespassing on the roof in order to commit murder, that's burglary.

>>515751987
You are fucking retarded and probably autistic and detached from the real world utterly. Hint: >>515752378

>>515753424
burglary requires intention of theft
this line is about people breaking into houses and killing the owner when confronted
number 3 is a slam dunk because of the people behind Kirk who could have been hit by either miss or overpenetration

#3, he caused the risk of death to others around Charlie when he shot him. He could have missed kill someone next to him.
Boom, death penalty back on the table

>>515752890
cool!

>>515738385 (OP)
>He doesn't know about the difference between federal and state
Lmao get fucked Mohammed.

shouldn't charge him at all. should give him a cool 5 mill bounty and a wife with big tits

>>515753871
>burglary requires intention of theft
It requires the intention of committing a crime, not specifically theft, that's just the common non-legal usage.

>>515738385 (OP)
You realize it's not all of them it's any of them. I'm on number 3 and that's already met.

>>515739898
Fag but I agree 2 electric boogaloo

>>515738385 (OP)
Utah here.
Yes, they can. It will get upgraded soon to murder 1, possibility with a hate crimes booster.

We have more than just lethal injection here. We have:
>Firing squad
>Osmond Family Christmas on a 12 hour loop
>Fed to the Mountain Lions
>Fed to the Bears
>Sent to the Uranium Mines of Lisbon Valley
>Date my sister
Lots of ways to dispose of a guy

>>515755230
>>515754737
>>515754302
>>515738385 (OP)
>>515738775
>Retards ssupport Death penalty when Clinton created ADX supermax.

>>515739622
>That's about square.
objectively, no

>>515738385 (OP)
The Federal government can throw on charges like domestic terrorism or the like and get him the Death Penalty. That is what they are doing to the guy who murdered the Ukrainian in NC.

>>515755356
a commie judge would get him out sooner than letter
better dead than red

>>515739444
They should do a public execution via firing squad. Taste of his own medicine, and a show of force to keep leftist afraid of doing this again.

>>515755587
it's more like they can try. the same way they can try to bypass congressional authority with bullshit tariffs that run the economy into the ground
whether or not that sticks is another story

Where there’s a will there’s a way.

>>515738385 (OP)
The federal government of the United States can, and does, do whatever the fuck it wants, including managing Germany as a vassal state since you fags fucked up WWII by biting off more than you could chew (we'd be speaking German if it weren't for you niggers).

>>515749007
and he will sit on death row for a decade minimum
mcveigh wasn't executed until like 5 years after OKC and that's 100 times worse than this

>>515738385 (OP)
>3 putting others in danger
Shooting into a crowd
>4 burglary
While the term burglary is often used to mean theft. The definition in Utah is entering a property with the intention to commit theft OR A FELONY.
A good prosecutor could get either.

That being said, I like Louisiana law better. All you have to prove is premeditated homicide

>>515738385 (OP)
article 3 could apply

>>515755868
Fascists always lose in the end because they value loyalty over competency.

>>515753871
This is a really common misconception. In part it reads
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/title76/chapter6/76-6-s202.html

An actor commits burglary if the actor enters or remains unlawfully in a building or any portion of a building with intent to commit:
(a) a felony;
(b) theft;
(c) an assault on any person;

Explain simply to me how murdering one person warrants a death penalty in the eyes of the law? I thought this was reserved for the most heinous of crimes, like serial killers or pedophiles?

>>515738385 (OP)
Someone will kill him long before his trial.
You must be new here.

>>515751101
He'd just smash his head into the wall until he suffered brain hemorrhaging after going insane. That's why they used to make the walls padded.

>>515738385 (OP)
WTF! I thought Utah was a trad reactionary state!

>>515756614
was he in a building unlawfully though?
does outside public semi-space count
do the insides of publicly open buildings count?

>>515738385 (OP)
>The victim is or has been a local, state, or federal public official, or a candidate for public office, and the homicide is based on, is caused by, or is related to that official position, act, capacity, or candidacy;
>The murderer knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than the victim and the murderer;

>>515750436
It is not unconstitutional for someone to be mistakenly executed, the constitution says they get due process
due process isn't 100% effective in every case
as far as I know he didn't have some crazy evidence that would require a retrial

>retarded gun ho prosecutor overcharges to try and start their political career and gets the case tossed out
see: alec baldwin, kyle rittenhouse

>>515757606
what office did kirk run for?

wont the federal government just lay him with a ton of charges so he gets the death penalty? someone correct me if im wrong plz

>>515738385 (OP)
Damn someone let the Colorado government know that wikipedo says no

>>515738385 (OP)
If he won't get death penalty, the people will give him one, public execution.

>>515740497
Yes you can. How do you think you aren't endangering possible other people when you're literally firing at someone with people nearby.

Will be the easiest slam dunk case ever.

>>515738385 (OP)
3 and 18 apply to this crime.

>>515760230
3. He didn't bring an automatic rifle. A single aimed bullet
18. It was a quick death

>>515738385 (OP)
He can be charged with terrorism which is a federal crime and leads a pathway to the death penalty.

It's going to be a long time before he goes into court. They can easily amend that law. But honestly I want him to get life. I want him to get solitary with a single window pointed to the sky. I want his only meal to be bread, unseasoned, uncooked spinach, a scoop of protein powder, and water for the rest of his life. If he refuses to eat, tie him to the bed and hook him up to machines to feed him.

>>515738385 (OP)
Wouldnt yhis then be upgraded into federal terrorism to get death penalty?

he's being charged with aggravated murder lmao
death it is
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/utah-death-penalty-charlie-kirk-shooting-rcna230792

Oh so its fine to kill a white guy just because he killed a more popular white guy?
His life is priceless
Let him go.