Thread 515955765

Just saw this posted in reddit and was used to justify Kirk's death because he was supposedly intolerant...

>>515955765 (OP)
The guy was killed in a debate area

>I can't tolerate the rights of people who disagree with me
Neat. Guess we won't either.

Two opposing sides form.
They both accuse each other of doing potential harm if their policies are enacted.
The tension builds until one of them snaps and outlaws the other party.

That is democracy when you have a diverse electorate.
The winner is whichever party pulls the trigger first, killing the other party.

>your trans ideology harms kids
>no your anti-trans ideology harms kids!

>>515955765 (OP)
There is no paradox your ideology is just illogical and youre raped in the head
Fuck you

> I just killed the guy having a peaceful debate!
> Ah, good! We can be a more open society now!

>>515955765 (OP)
People parrot this are fucking retarded and don't even understand what Popper believed.
Popper wrote in a 1971 letter to Jacques Monod
>“We must be tolerant, even towards what we regard as a basically dangerous lie.” It is an easy thing to dismiss certain ideas as “outdated” or obviously “wrong”, or even to dismiss them for not reciprocating the courtesy that they are given, but we should not forget that the people holding them are largely honest; they believe the things that they say and argue for. They deserve our tolerance.
in a 1973 letter, this time to Paul Kurtz and Edwin H. Wilson:
>“we must not become dogmatic and churchlike ourselves.” To replace intolerance with a different kind of intolerance, is to not replace much of anything at all. Critical rationalists like himself should be wanting something more, something that breaks with all that prior tradition, rather than continuing with it under different colours.

>>515955765 (OP)
Clearly the only sane response to somebody saying something you don't like is to shoot that person with a sniper rifle

>>515955765 (OP)
America in 2030, colorized.

>>515955765 (OP)
Funny they say that and still insist charlie kirk is killed by a right winger.

>>515956281
its cuz he said trannies werent women
this is violent speech!!!

>>515955765 (OP)
Popper’s paradox is pilpul which boils down to
>We are going to turn your country into a degenerate, multicultural hellscape and if you resist us then we will destroy you
There is nothing deep or intellectual about it. It’s simply a statement of Jewish political aims dressed up as philosophy

>>515955765 (OP)
the argument revolves around the question of "who defines intolerance?"

>>515956830
shut your tangential bullshit faggot. real life is not your personal discord.

>>515955765 (OP)
this piece of media is the tentpole most leftwards try to use as thier moral crutch for anything they do.

Intolerance can not be tolerated.

Delete this image it's extremely islamophobic and antisemitic

>>515957717
if you cant tell obvious sarcasm you should probably not be using 4chan

>>515958343
>obvious sarcasm
there is no difference here anymore. shills unironically post whatever dishonest ragebait reality inversion shit they can.

>>515960290
you might have autism

>>515960329
i may have autism but you're definitely a shill.

>>515955765 (OP)
The author making this point was speaking directly in reference to Communism.

>>515955765 (OP)
>thought that only christianity should be allowed to be practiced in USA
>homos should be either stoned or arrested and put in conversion-therapy
>women should be second class citizens
>blacks should be second class citizens
"supposedly intolerant"

>>515955992
They clearly don't understand when things work both ways.

>>515960864
and he was DEBATING you retard

>>515958128
this is the dumbest excuse i have ever heard. kirk was a man of honor. he was a man of his word. he was a man of integrity. he was a man of honor.

the only reason that this is even a thing is because the tv writers were lazy and uninspired

>>515960290
You need to lurk before you post here.

>>515960329
Not an argument
>captcha: niggers

>>515956308
This

>>515957064
No, Popper is the third rail that says "you can choose anything except to abolish choice." A Neo Nazi party doesn't have a place in the democratic framework least of all because the stated aim is the abolition of democracy.

>>515961113
nigger don't act like you're some pro. you're just antithesis/sidetrack posting.

why do so many anons have autism!?

>>515960290
You sound autistic

>>515961113
either you don't have a real opinion or you're obfuscating your opinion for argumentative advantage. either way fuck off.

>>515955765 (OP)
hate this smarmy kike

>>515961007
Yes, and?

And it's not like Kirk did it in good faith. He always pivots and whataboutists whenever he gets owned and never change his stances. His "debates" were political rallies. Nothing more. I Don't support his assassination, but not really against it either. It's just natural outcome of you amerimutts shitting up your nation. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

>>515961262
>Popper is the third rail that says "you can choose anything except to abolish choice." A Neo Nazi party doesn't have a place in the democratic framework least of all because the stated aim is the abolition of democracy.
that's about the level of intellectual sophistication from someone who thought israel's primary problem was that it didn't have any arab generals.

>>515955765 (OP)
The fact that they trumpet the paradox of tolerance as some sort of feature rather than a refutation shows how retarded these people are.

>>515961465
YOU are the intolerant who has to be removed
since you believe it is ok to murder those you disagree with

ffs I dont even think illegal speech (yelling fire in a crowded pace) should warrant execution, let alone saying wearing a dress doenst make you a woman

>>515961684
Would you cry if a raped kid's dad shot and killed the pedophile? No? Then don't moralize to me, retard.

>>515961566
>not an argument

>>515955765 (OP)
Funny using nazis as an example but not... every other race and religion, including their own ideology.

>>515955765 (OP)
the rightards need to realize leftards will go as far as to kill them.
It's a war. The one who wins has moral superiority.

>>515961905
what's there to argue against? it's free speech, except it isn't really? it's free speech for liberals or to advance liberal goals, but not to advance conservative ones? you can't just call something free speech and then put an asterix on the end and say haha but only for liberals.

Imagine taking a guy named Pooper seriously, especially in the form of a comic for soilennial manchildren.

>>515962657
nigga he's the one who came up with all this human rights shit. you have to take him seriously, he's that influential.

>>515955765 (OP)
Defending tolerance means not tolerating the intolerant. This is why you’ll never level with them. Shifting the goalposts never you feel like it isn’t tolerance.

>>515955765 (OP)
Why are leftists retarded? That was not what he said nor meant at all.

>>515955765 (OP)
Fine. Never tolerate the left again.

>>515961811
>debating about political topics I disagree with = raping children
ok retard

>>515962862
by that logic socialists shouldnt be tolerated because they regularly preach about 'eating the rich'

>>515962877
popper and the other analytics had a retarded definition of rational argument so this isn't much better

>>515955765 (OP)
The irony is, this is what’s happening and you’re all blind to it. The left is saying, it’s tragic that he was killed, but everything he said was hate speech and everything he stood for was evil so the man shouldn’t be celebrated, even if the left tolerated it in the name of free speech.

The outrage over it is already at the end of the infographic where you rabid misguided idiots are now up in arms against the tolerant.

You even know the shooter was raised conservative now, but your brain worms have burrowed too deep. You are the bad guys.

>>515961416
No, I'm actually retarded and I'll still kick your ass. You're gonna look real dumb, btfo and asskicked by a retard.

>>515956477
You wish. That will be rainbow flags and nigger statues.

>>515957064
Go fuck yourself. I have no strong thoughts on the paradox, but Karl Popper is based as fuck and should never be called pilpul.
Only reason he's not more respected is becuase the Frankfurt school wanted to stop his amazing argument against Marxism.
He's completely right. The scientific method is the wests greatest strength. Its insane we dont bring it into the political arena.
Politics and opinions are dumb as fuck, we need to become much more empirical.

>>515955765 (OP)
>used to justify
correct. it does.

>>515955992
it literally justifies his death. pluralism is incoherent and doesn't work. U.S. has always been on the path to 3rd reich shit. the fact that anyone is surprised by this (conservatives) is a testament to their brazen stupidity. kirk needed to die, fascists need to die

the lesson of ww2 and the holocaust was not "debate the fascists and they'll magically go away".
you're actually retarded if you think you could time travel to September 1, 1939 and DEBATE hitler in to shutting down the concentration camps. what, you think you should just get run over by panzers?

>>515956045
>hurr durr all ideologies are equal, fascism is just as good as democracy and peace
you're fucking retarded. suck a tailpipe.

>>515956113
massive cope

>>515956281
it is literally the case that society is more peaceful without right wingers who support wars all the fucking time

>>515955765 (OP)
chudaronis been quiet since this dropped

>>515962503
Thats enough pol, its making you crazy. >>515962877

>>515955765 (OP)
Well, gee, I guess we can use this to justify getting all of them shitcanned and living on the street then, seeing as they're so intolerant that they want to kill people for disagreeing with them.

>>515962968
>leading a radicalization propaganda organization that is close enough to the ruling regime that the head of the FBI gives you an eulogy and every embassy across the globe lowers their flags for you is "debating"
Where does the stupidity end and dishonesty begin?

>>515963905
an intolerant government wouldnt host live debates you retard

>>515963662
i have read "the open society and its enemies" and that is his exact argument for freedom of speech. it is to produce liberal goals and to prohibit authoritarians from seizing power.
>UHMMM HE ONLY OPPOSED THOSE WHO WOULD USE FORCE INSTEAD OF LE REASONED ARGUMENT!!!
that's basically every political movement lmao. reread the open society (if you have read it).

>>515963905
>Was literally at a debate when he was shot
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>515964184
>prohibit authoritarians
When did authoritarian equal conservative?

>>515964153
Orwell vs. Huxley, retard.

>>515964186
>king gets assassinated while in the crapper
>"woah, I can't believe they killed him for using toilet"

>>515963369
so what you're says is that the marxists of reddit are using an argument used against marxism to support their marxists views?

>>515963399
Get in the tophet. My race will not be your slaves and you will not live near us.

>>515964405
You literally can't beat a moderate conservative in a debate so you go absolutely mental and shoot the guy retard.

>>515964360
since HUAC and jim crow?

>>515964717
What the fuck are you talking about, nigger? I have never debated or shot a "moderate conservative".

>>515955765 (OP)
So then would't his murderer be even MORE intolerant? So then therefore, that means the punishment should be to kill him AND members of his family, because it's worse.

And this is why modern philosophy is a joke.

>>515964427
>>515955765 (OP)
They are conflating popper with Marcuse

>>515955765 (OP)
Trannies and communists don't have to be tolerated by this principle and need to be locked up and killed asap

>>515961465
He was one of the most good faith debaters in politics. I don't know what you consider good faith debaters but I'd bet it's retards like Destiny.

>>515963905
>>leading a radicalization propaganda organization
>radicalization
Kirk was mainstream conservative and you sound like a communist faggot.

>>515964427
>so what you're says is that the marxists of reddit are using an argument used against marxism to support their marxists views?
But that's what they always do, isn't it? Taking words and twisting them to mean what they want it to mean. In this case they take intolerant and apply to anybody that doesn't see the world in the same way they do, dehumanize them and call for their suppression or outright murder.

if you wipe up you autistic half-nigger wife's son's shit off the floor you are intolerant of nigger shit on the floor and must be executed by troon firing squad

>>515956045
>>your trans ideology harms kids
>>no your anti-trans ideology harms kids!
Have you fucking seen trannies? It’s not a neutral issue where both sides have a point

>>515963399
(((Popper)))
>the holocaust
muh pile of shoes

It's all so fucking tiresome

>>515955765 (OP)
The events of the past week have shown that it is no longer possible to share a society, nation or even this Earth with the leftist. Fortunately, in his infinite wisdom, Allah Al Hakeem has already prepared a place for them in Jahanam, the abode of unrepentant sinners, where their suffering in total separation from Allah, will be eternal. And it is not even us who made that choice for them, but they themselves, in the concious decisions they have made in this world to make it more evil.

Their spite for goodness and righteousness has made them reject the salvation offered by Allah through his Messenger (pbuh). All that remains is for the Believers to despatch them to their place of permanent residence

>>515968501
>Fortunately, in his infinite wisdom, Allah Al Hakeem has already prepared a place for them in Jahanam, the abode of unrepentant sinners, where their suffering in total separation from Allah, will be eternal.
I like your funny words, magic man

>>515955765 (OP)
>"debating what should be tolerated is intolerance. just do whatever the fuck we tell you to or die fascist!"
You know they're the good guys because they call their enemies fascists and they fight intolerance. Also they're a minority gender so they're oppressed, and oppressed people = good.

>>515955765 (OP)
We tolerated jews, troons and their nigger allies for far too long.
They need to be put in the ground where they belong.