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Anonymous (ID: ksdMAS3S) Dominican Republic No.515956549 >>515956982 >>515957234 >>515957649 >>515957715 >>515958196 >>515958631 >>515958657 >>515958736 >>515958839 >>515959296 >>515959335 >>515960078 >>515960181 >>515960580 >>515960862 >>515962523 >>515963196 >>515963462
Charlie Kirk: Master Debater or just masturbator?
Why is there so much noise about Charlie Kirk?

If you strip away the rumors about Russia, at the end of the day he was basically a YouTuber/influencer who gave his opinions on politics and culture, mostly in speeches at universities or on social media. He wasn’t really making strong arguments, just opinions framed as arguments (and yes, there’s a difference between the two: an argument requires evidence or reasoning, an opinion doesn’t).

And I don’t say this to devalue influencers or YouTubers — their lives matter just as much as anyone else’s. But why Kirk and not others? Every year young people get shot at schools or campuses, and the media cycle moves on. Why is Kirk turned into a symbol?

If the idea is “freedom of speech,” then why him specifically? Why not, for example, Minnesota Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, who were murdered this year in what was clearly a politically motivated act? Why is his death treated as uniquely symbolic?

To me the only real reason is political. In the U.S. (as everywhere) many people don’t reason deeply about these things, so they see figures like Kirk as “intellectual leaders” or moral authorities. His death then becomes useful: one side uses it to present themselves as victims, the “good guys,” and to demonize their opponents.
Anonymous (ID: BYaj1ews) United States No.515956982 >>515958513 >>515963635
>>515956549 (OP)
wow usually dominican repub posters are based

you must have a VPN

anyhow

ya see kike

charlie kirk was a decent human being

and much like how jews "kind of " resemble european human beings - you literally aren't either

i only know this from your "holy books" were you proclaim to be the only REAL human beings, etc.

anywho, canaanites
>jews
lack the cognitively ability to understand basic concepts like
>empathy
but more importantly
>sympathy

jews have, basically, been getting the living shit beat out of them by EVERYONE they come in to contact with, around the WHOLE HECKIN WORLD

they still don't learn anything tho - they don't value the lives of their fellow jews EXCEPT monetarily

that's why jews are always insurance adjusters specifically in situations where a person is killed

jews have a long history of using their own children, and each other, as a commodity - something that can be bought or sold - whored out, etc.

so they're the BEST at assigning a monetary value to a human life - since they're the most knowledgable in human trafficking, child trafficking, slavery, forced prostitution

things of that nature
Anonymous (ID: D7iIqsJy) No.515957082
He secretly loved girlcock
Anonymous (ID: ClTAudtI) United States No.515957234
>>515956549 (OP)
>Why is there so much noise about Charlie Kirk?
Anonymous (ID: 4SgVsUab) France No.515957649 >>515958452
>>515956549 (OP)
look, they want an american civil war, and kirk was the designated trigger, that's all.
Anonymous (ID: vZu0Nt6B) United States No.515957715
>>515956549 (OP)
I'm not reading all that
Anonymous (ID: CUyyjUzk) United States No.515957875 >>515958262
Why are you retarded? Important question
Anonymous (ID: /SgBp/Pb) United Kingdom No.515958196 >>515958460 >>515958734
>>515956549 (OP)
Kirk was a DOGSHIT debator, unironically one of the worst. He cheated in all his debates, was generally fucking oblitorated but would frame it as he won because he moderates his own debate rules and olds the opposition to insane standards while allowing himself to gish galloping out a bunch of bullshit "facts" (and by bullshit, usually genuinely made up nonsense) and change the topic all over the place.
He's often used as an example of how NOT to debate.
For example, here is a debate school channel, and here they are talking about what a fucking cheating little bitch who can't debate for shit Kirk is and they go through step by step how he has nothing but fallacies and cheats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7y50cNb7c
This is why I hate fucking Kirk, I don't hate Sowell, I don't hate Dugin I don't hate Hitchens, but faggots like Kirk, Shapiro, Crowder and Peterson are all horrific debators, that you can only really believe "won" their debates if you simply just agree with their talking points and aren't willing to conceed they actually get owned relentlessly.
Anonymous (ID: Ku7tJ39a) Dominican Republic No.515958262 >>515958821 >>515958837
>>515957875

One thing I’ve been wondering: why do figures like Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes become famous? I’m not talking about their humanity — of course, they are real people and deserve basic respect. I’m talking about why certain audiences treat them as moral or political authorities.

In what country, or among what mentally healthy people, would these guys genuinely be seen as moral leaders? The answer seems to be more about group psychology, identity politics, and media amplification than about actual expertise or wisdom. People latch onto them because they echo their beliefs, simplify complex issues, and provide a sense of belonging — not because they have rigorous arguments or deep insight.

It’s like the celebrity effect: notoriety + emotional appeal = perceived authority, regardless of actual knowledge.
Anonymous (ID: Ku7tJ39a) Dominican Republic No.515958452 >>515959279 >>515960580
>>515957649

That explains a lot, because Russian propaganda machines on TikTok immediately started calling for war.
Anonymous (ID: jJmzs5AV) United States No.515958460 >>515959760
>>515958196
No one cares about real debating
Anonymous (ID: ksdMAS3S) Dominican Republic No.515958513
>>515956982
It looks like something Charlie would say.
Anonymous (ID: JRi4PIHv) Finland No.515958631
>>515956549 (OP)
>Every year young people get shot at schools or campuses, and the media cycle moves on.
Sorry... do you see people gleefully dancing on those people's graves and cheering it on like it's the goddamn Superbowl?
I don't even like Charlie Kirk. In fact, I kind of really disliked him for being a Zionist shill. But seeing his neck get blown out still disturbed me. Anyone who had a gleeful and celebratory reaction towards that is honestly just a vile piece of shit
Anonymous (ID: i6rXuFR/) Cyprus No.515958657
>>515956549 (OP)
they're trying to slide pissrael attacking qatar and yemen. nobody cares about this literal who and the hohol whore it's all a distraction.
Anonymous (ID: 9AP9cR9N) United States No.515958734
>>515958196
dilate tranny
Anonymous (ID: EFJx7S+9) United States No.515958736
>>515956549 (OP)
Umm if the left didn't openly advocate and celebrate Charlie Kirk's death we wouldn't be in this situation. The left are gleefully gloating about it like they just committed the murder themselves, leftists demonize themselves.
Anonymous (ID: vipYXCcB) United States No.515958821
>>515958262
Charlie Kirk was a less condescending and more likeable ben Shapiro. pretty successful, a family man with influence especially on the youth, and a future regardless of what you or I think about "debate bro" content makers. All that said, it's not fair to compare him to some gay incel cringelord like spic fuentes
Anonymous (ID: 9AP9cR9N) United States No.515958837
>>515958262
what kind of fucking country sells out its own people and replaces them with illiterate brown subhumans that murder them just to save a few pennies? fuck off, faggot
Anonymous (ID: dIhaDggH) United States No.515958839
>>515956549 (OP)
>Why is his death treated as uniquely symbolic?
Because he's famous and fame carries more weight in the minds of normies. That can be used to manipulate and exploit the situation.
Anonymous (ID: xCc25gXm) Lithuania No.515959279 >>515959560 >>515959629
>>515958452
Are those russian propaganda machines on tiktok with us in the room right now?
Anonymous (ID: oUUEUYxu) No.515959296
>>515956549 (OP)
>Why is Kirk turned into a symbol?
Because they need one.

It doesn't matter that he sucked at debates and was easily debunked by undergrads of all people. Migas needed a symbol, and this serves them well.

In fact, it isn't even migas. They're idiots. The powers behind them (behind both "opposing" parties actually) have decided it's time for conservacucks to have one -as wokes have enough symbols already-, and they've already turned the machine on.
Anonymous (ID: oCz0hmHk) No.515959335
>>515956549 (OP)
It was because of the graphic nature of his death captured on video in front of a large crowd with a sniper.
If he was shot getting out of his car at his home with no cameras around, there would have been much less sensationalism.
It would just just be words on a news article with some stock pictures of Kirk, and maybe one pic with some police cars and some police tape around the scene.
We would be all like, wow that's weird, Charlie Kirk died, anyway whats the next article.
Anonymous (ID: 2hkWw221) United States No.515959560
>>515959279
yes actually...
ahem*
>the maidan coup is a false russian narrative used as flimsy justification for imperialist aggression to spread gulaghomo

just wait they can't resist...
Anonymous (ID: ksdMAS3S) Dominican Republic No.515959629
>>515959279
Yepe
Anonymous (ID: ksdMAS3S) Dominican Republic No.515959760
>>515958460
Exactly. Most people don’t care about structured debates; they follow personalities and opinions, which is why Kirk’s style worked for his audience.
Anonymous (ID: Q7KmgVbh) United States No.515960078
>>515956549 (OP)
You know what? I'll say it.
The difference is one was done in front of students while he was arguing his opinion.
The other was done in the middle of the night.
So, you have about a couple million more witnesses to the actual assassination through the livestreams.
Anonymous (ID: 464Ks75d) Germany No.515960181 >>515964966
>>515956549 (OP)
That nigga lost his debate though
Anonymous (ID: xrksSX/5) Germany No.515960580 >>515962715
>>515956549 (OP)
>If you strip away the rumors about Russia
what rumors about Russia, are you rewriting history here? who was saying Kirk shooting was a Russian op? no one is talking about Russia
>>515958452
>on tiktok
I am not on TikTok but I doubt this even happened because nothing of it was visible on any other site and even no other grifter was talking about Russia wanting this for civil war
Anonymous (ID: hNRFkhUR) United Kingdom No.515960862
>>515956549 (OP)
Apparently Kirk made maga popular among the younger gens and was thus important to trump's wins. I guess that's something.
Anonymous (ID: xeFu/6ib) No.515962523
>>515956549 (OP)
This Is a Christard who said (now he’s dead ) ancient Jew wizard god is real cause archeology doesn’t disprove it .

A nigger ChristJew who thinks Jews did magical physics defying acts with SuperJew energy .

What a fucking dead PROVEN WRONG CHRISTFAGGOT

MUH JEWSUS ! Muh gun freedACK!

RIP
Charlie “Gurgle” Kike
Anonymous (ID: xeFu/6ib) No.515962715
>>515960580
Charlie Kike was paid by RUSSHIT and Jew money.

The assassin is gop-squatting clearly looks at RUSSHIT subhumans as cool and to be emulated.

Basically both the commie and the capitalist were funded by Russia and both admired Russia and , well , we got a two for!

Two Russian cocksuckers off our streets.

Heil Hitler
Heil Bandera
Heil Antonio Banderas
Heil Deez Nuts

White Aryan victory over the ChristJew
Anonymous (ID: 9rRaYvwH) United States No.515963196
>>515956549 (OP)
>Why not, for example, Minnesota Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, who were murdered this year in what was clearly a politically motivated act? Why is his death treated as uniquely symbolic?
is this the new talking point or something? i see it everywhere now. minnesota only has 5 million people ando f those, only a handful know who their federal reps are, and an even smaller percentage know who their state reps are
second, it happened in the middle of the night, with no one around. charlie kirk got shot in front of thousands in 4k and poured gallons of blood out of his neck all over the stage
to compare the two is a disingenuous act
Anonymous (ID: PvvqlSW7) United States No.515963462
>>515956549 (OP)
Distraction from Epstein List and Trump's assassination and banning passports for US citizens who don't love Israel enough. It's really obvious Israel did it.
Anonymous (ID: PCRmqnjZ) Australia No.515963635
>>515956982
Fucking awesome post. Needs more recognition. TKD.
>Taps the sign.
Anonymous (ID: ZRzkjTar) United States No.515964966
>>515960181
Nigger logic