Thread 516002439

Why do Christians believe in utter stupid shit like Demon possession and other make believe things? How can we help them?

>>516002439 (OP)
How do you describe modern American "liberals" other than demonic? I'm not religious but they seem satanic.

>>516002677
What I see on /pol/ is much more demonic than anything I see the left say or do

>>516002439 (OP)
It's the only logical sense at this point.
You cannot explain or rationalize the behavior of these people as anything else. It's well beyond the territory of mental illness. If I didn't believe in demons and demonic possession, I sure as fuck do now. You have to be a calcified normie faggot not to see it at this point.

>>516003373
You don't need to appeal to magic and superstition to explain human behavior

>>516003026
Yeah there are demons everywhere

>>516003830
Source?

>>516003026
Because they are on pol too. The left is a unhinged death cult. They see speech as violence so killings are justified. They see support of the 2nd amendment as a good enough reason to be shot. These are people that hate the first two constitutional rights. They have no thought process. They are just fed from the central hive mind that must be located in some kind of hell.

>>516003437
Except this is anything but human behavior. There is nothing human about it inside or out. The retardation is not human and the hatred certainly is worse than bestial. If the world was one day overrun with pic related you'd probably have a harder time downplaying this issue. Or maybe not. You'd probably just accept it as a normal stage of human behavior.

>>516002439 (OP)
They are essentially role players, mass role players LARPing with their imaginations and wanting others to play along or they threaten violence. No different than troons really.

>>516004126
are the demons in the room with you now?

>>516002439 (OP)
They're primitive retards. It's also useful for when they rape kids--just blame it on "demons," then something, something, forgiveness, and it's all good.

>>516004400
and yet body modification and expression is paramount to every human civilization throughout time regardless of culture. You don't have to invoke magic and spirits and ghosts and goblins because people act in a way you don't like

>>516002439 (OP)
>"Kirks death is a sign of Newton's law"
>Therefore Newton's laws are fake
Do you notice?
Just because Faux News is, once again, being their usual self, does not mean that it is fake. (though, in my own opinion, demonic possession is like 100x overreported.)

>>516003373
>>516003437
>You don't need to appeal to magic and superstition to explain human behavior
This. It's cheap and lazy (another virtue of christcucks) because they don't want to think about things too hard. You can explain human behavior by understand human emotions. (Which Fake Right seems to want to pretend aren't real either). Christcucks don't understand being an asshole to people enough times, for long enough, will trigger fight or flight responses in their victims.

>>516003437
>magic and superstition
Scientists know what a primitive human mind usually suspects: the existence of worlds beyond this world. The truth is the physical is a byproduct of NON-physical laws which manifest as the known and unknown physical universe. Plato knew this. That's just a basic example of "a world beyond".

If you don't see it now after everything, it's doubtful you ever will. Or maybe part of you just doesn't want to except it and the implications that come with it.
>this is fine dog.jpg

>>516004659

TRVTHNVKE

>>516002439 (OP)
Why do you believe you are a woman? We know how to help you.

ITT plebs who never had the opportunity to activate their pineal gland.
NGMI to the 13th dimensions (Heavens) frens

>>516004587
What specifically about the Christian terminology bothers you so much? Do you find it a mischaracterization or are you offended by the assumption that demons are real?

>>516002439 (OP)
Because jews exist

>>516002439 (OP)
You can’t. They’re all possessed by demons.

>>516005354
Do you believe in gnomes and goblins too?

>>516003026
Didn’t a leftist just murder a young man in front of his 3 year old child and wife? And a few weeks before that, didn’t a leftist just murder an 8 year old and 10 year old children?

Oh yeah but posting nigger and kike is so much worse.

>>516002439 (OP)
>Why do Christians believe in utter stupid shit like Demon possession and other make believe things? How can we help them?

>>516005455
That’s a false equivalence. Your iq is too low for this conversation I’m afraid you wretched disgusting kike.

>>516003026
>What I see on /pol/ is much more demonic than anything I see the left say or do
They just shot some guy in the neck, with blood gushing out like a scene from a horror movie. In front of thousands of young college students, and now countless millions of people who viewed the closeup video. The left is pure evil and should ALL be ostracized from society. Fuck you.

>>516005644
THIS NIGGA BELIEVES IN GOBLINS

>>516003026
Unironically, there is some nasty energy on this website

>>516002439 (OP)
Because cultural beliefs > reality now
Same shit with all the demon pedo libs running the earth with Masonic zionists. It’s pathetic.

>>516004438
>are the demons in the room with you now?
They are unironically in the room with you. Look around, one is standing right next to you.

Demon possession is real. You know it when you see them.

>>516005455
You didn't answer my question but yes I believe all myths are rooted in reality to a certain degree. Where do you think the inspiration for these characters came from?

>>516002439 (OP)
>Why do Christians believe in utter stupid shit like Demon possession
Pagans also believe in demon possession. Pretty much every religion believes in demon possession, you fucking retard.

>>516002439 (OP)
all cultures around the world including injuns in southern american jungles believe in demonic possesion

>>516005785
Yes kikes are goblins.

>>516003026
>>516006112
>a-actually, YOU'RE the demons...
uh huh

>>516006241
No goy that stuff isn’t real there’s just this reality and that’s it! Nothing you do has any meaning here either, so do drugs and have gay sodomy! It’s all good heh heb

>>516003026
Trvke. Extremists love to justify evil for the sake of good. This invites those who are just plain evil and want to do bad.

>>516002439 (OP)
Why thinking about stuff when you can believe that a good god and a demon are responsibly for everything?

>>516002439 (OP)
>>516003437
I baffles my mind that people still dont see and believe that a supernatural evil rules the world when even politicians make it obvious they follow his lead and celebrities all out saying they worship satan.
I mean, no shit they think you are just fucking lemmings when they shove this shit down your throat and still deny it.
its outright willful ignorance on your part that will have you condemned and always be pawns of the devil.

>>516002439 (OP)
When you figure out what demon possession is... it's actually quite banal and mundane. People need to remember that our world religions are just an older way of explaining phenomenon. Have you ever heard a street drummer? Imagine being an ancient human and realizing that you get an emotional reaction from banging a stick against a stump. What would you call that? What if you realized you could make masses of people change their emotional state just by tapping out the right codes with your stick. Our ancestors called this magic. Do you believe that drummers are magick men OP. No. Yet the good ones can captivate us. Demon possession is something banal and that most people wouldnt even consider magical or supernatural. Remember, if religion comes from a place of truth, then it isnt supernatural at all.

>>516002439 (OP)
>How can we help them?
Play into their delusions. Help them act out their fantasies.

>>516002439 (OP)
Demon possession is literally one of the hallmarks of Christ's healing ministries. OP, jump into hell face first

>>516006734
Read this. Stop with the "supernatural" term. If nature is what is, then that which is in it isnt supernatural

See:>>516006739

>>516006849
Get some help

>>516006308
>How are we feeling today big girl?
KILL.

>>516007046
Literally seek Christ or you'll remember this moment and every blasphemy you've ever committed as you wail and sobbing and burn and feel untold pain in hell.

>>516006849
Talk like that will see you there beneath him, eternally tormented by his flaming piss. Be a christian. Be humble. Be correct. Be right minded. It isn't your say.

>>516007158
SOURCE!?

>>516002439 (OP)
you cannot convince me that leftist ideology isnt satanical and a literal demon infest the willing buck broken host.
demonic parasites are very real, dont matter if you dont believe in them.
only faith in Christ may cleanse you from the devil.

>>516006734
>pic: Allegedly this guy whipped out his massive shlong and did the "Helicoptre" in front of 91488 feminists.
Pity no one got a pic of that. Also, allegedly, one of the angry foids did pron with horses
Vaush liked this

>>516002439 (OP)
Because Religion is a mental illness.

>>516003373
No sympathy for people who get famous by dying on video. It's just pixels on a screen. If pixels make you feel emotion, you've truly become a simpslave to your computer.

>>516002439 (OP)
You can kill yourself. Atheists are no better than niggers.

>>516003437
>You don't need to appeal to magic and superstition to explain human behavior
how many boosters of the trump shot you got

>>516002439 (OP)
you can help by butting a gun to your head

>>516002439 (OP)
The catholic school tran shooter had a hand drawn picture of himself as a demon in his manifesto.

>>516007874
Did the demons make that typo?

>>516007831
Christs are literally niggers, you nigger loving christfaggot.

>>516007901
and where did they get the idea of a demon from?

>>516008173
BASED

>>516008198
satanism is mainstream politics and i say it as an atheist

>>516007014
>>516006739
first of, demonic possession isnt a thing unless you completely give yourself over to demonic forces.
second, demons are just unclean spirits of an unclean union between angels and humans and their offspring.
and third, they are not banal or mundane, they existed for thousands of years besides humans and know us better than we ourselves.
they are persons without a body, but still intelligent beings with a will. their main objective being to lead people away from God and righteousness to the death of the soul.
all pagan religions centered around worshiping and having contact with these spirits since they knew they had power. every african jumping around a stone is more intelligent than you because they know fucking full well that these beings are real.
it wasnt until christianity that humanity saw who and what these beings truly are, evil oppressors of humans to lead them into destruction. and dont be fooled, pagan worship in this age is higher than you want to acknowledge, its all around you, their symbols and influence on the mind with media and music which is full of satanic chants and messages. the same messages that you now repeat denying their existence and malevolence. you are already their slave without knowing it.

>If nature is what is, then that which is in it isnt supernatural

>>516007014
>>516008351
hit enter to soon

>>If nature is what is, then that which is in it isnt supernatural
the supernatural existed before the natural.

>>516008198
Doesn't matter. He likened himself to a demon.

>>516008579
so christians indoctrinated them into thinking that certain traits were demonic and it radicalized them into thinking they were a demon? gotcha

>>516002439 (OP)
In order to subscribe to any religious belief you have to mentally believe in many literal logical fallacies.

If you imagine your brain as a maze and the possibilities of things contain many answers or doors, every ideology you subscribe to that erodes your mind closes some paths.

An example: If you think believing in differences of the races (Even if that makes them inferior in certain ways or not) is BAD. You automatically rule out ALL exits of 'this could have to do with race on some level in your mind. You cannot conclude the same things as someone that has not closed these doors.

This is same for religious people, certain things have been permanently answered in their mind.

>How did we come to be
>Whats our purpose
>How should I act

These have all been literally dictated to them

OP, have you seen the look on the average leftist and Karen's face? You can call it demon possession, insanity... whatever. They are psycho and dangerous. Call it what you will. It is happening in mass since the clot shot.

>>516008782
you dont need a christian to tell you thinking you are female when youre actually a male is wrong.

>>516006849
>OP, jump into hell face first
This is only what brown groyper larpers say. Real christians never wish anyone hell.

>>516003026
well no shit. you and 90% of most of the threads are made by jews here, so of course you'd see demons.

>righties: we will destroy you! you will regret this!
>also righties: does anyone have some blessed salt to save me from the scary demons? hello, bishop? I saw a scary shadow in the corner of my room, aaaaah save me!
It’s like a kid who still believes in Santa talking tough, fucking hilarious
Kick off the civil war and you’ll be defeated by trannies wearing devil horns playing screamo music over loudspeakers.
>gaaaaah it’s satanerino! save me invisible father figure!

>>516010100
exactly!

>>516002439 (OP)
Because it's true
Leftists are possessed by demons
Instead of celebrating Life, they celebrate Death
Instead of celebrating beauty, the celebrate ugliness
Instead celebrating health, they celebrate disease and mutilating your own body

What else can you call them at this point, other than demons?

>>516011147
You could call them people

>>516011503
then behave like people.

>>516005708
>Ostracized from society
You mean killed right? Lefties should all be killed because if it were you, they'd kill you horrifically then mock you afterwards

>>516011503
I disagree

>>516011813
retard

>>516002439 (OP)
They’re actual retarded people. Also remember, they believe the Pagan Gods are demons lol. Christianity is a mind control program.

Demon possession is real
Haven’t you ever seen the homeless people who hear voices, talk to themselves, and bend their bodies in strange ways. While medicine can help suppress some of the symptoms, it doesn’t make the demons go completely away.

>>516002439 (OP)
Demons are based

>>516012150
Do you believe “demons” are pagan Gods?

>>516003026
>more demonic than mutilating children
Gtfo, trannyism is straight up influenced by demonic Baphomet imagery

>>516006734
The hero we need

>>516012134
Pagan gods are based. They aren't afraid of demons like Christoids.

>>516002439 (OP)
Demon possession is real

>>516012150
Thats called drugs not demons.

>>516012440
Christkikes literally believe the Gods are demons.

>>516002439 (OP)
Demon-strate your beliefs are worth taking seriously.

Belief in the supernatural is nigger-tier. Blaming shit on goblins is no different.

>>516012440
>>516012559
the bible literally records of God assigning these "gods" over the nations as a result of the rebellion at babel.

>>516006535
>good bad good good bad good durr hurrdurr

>>516002439 (OP)
Because it's a lower bar of entry to have magical thinking. And if you move past it you sort yourself out.
>>516002677
Here's one example of someone unable to sort themselves out from magical thinking.

>>516012864
Yahweh is a fucking liar. He’s a deceiver and trickster and you fell for it.

>>516012440
yet they were displaced. so basically losers.

>>516002439 (OP)
and yet, your explanations do not yield any tangible results. All those scientific psycho mumbo jumbo, PHDs in psychology and shit and you cannot make a schizo well. All you were able to come up with are therapies that teach you how to HANDLE or SUPPRES the mental illness. Not cure, no NOTHING.

On another hand we have Jesus Christ who HEALED many mentally ill people. All who turn to Jesus Christ are set free from the demons modern world calls "mental illness". You people claim its not real, but why are people healed when they come to Christ? And not healed when they come for a therapy? You tell me sherlock.

>>516013056
>the cross unfolds into a cube
pathetic

>>516013165
Is Jesus in the room with you now?

>>516013137
And now you're Jewish slaves. Worth it?

>>516012520
stupid polak

>>516013199
Christkikes are gonna save the world and totally not hand it over to jews bro

>>516013290
yeah He is.

>>516013480
pic?

>>516013427
your pic isnt even talking about christians but kike stooges.

>>516002439 (OP)
Where's the black guy behind her?

>>516013567
is air with you in the room? make a picture or else. Stoopid

>>516013641
So you are admitting that Jesus is invisible. How convenient.

>>516006739
There’s demonic possession and demonic oppression. Both are terrible, but possession is something much, much worse. We all face demonic oppression every day. Every time we give into temptation we allow them to oppress us more. The only cure is the sacramental life.

>>516013608
>kike stooges.
Yea… christians

>>516013712
is that all you got?

>>516013770
retard

>>516013771
You admit to believing in invisible magic ghosts of jewish rabbis that probably never existed and you think you are winning

She needs to honor her husbands beliefs and shut up and go back into the kitchen

>>516013727
>something you do materially keeps demons away
lol no

>>516002439 (OP)
Why, because demons are real. If you can't reckon that, you are too blind for any explanation.

>>516002439 (OP)
protestants aren't Christians. they're devil worshippers in disguise

>>516014071
Where does the word “demon” come from without googling it?

>>516014048
It’s God grace that keeps the demons at bay, and we receive that grace most powerfully through the blessed sacraments.

>>516014186
daemon, word for spirit

>>516014187
no, you tell them to fuck off in the name of Jesus and they have to listen. no amount of works has any weight in this matter.
grace is not earned by works.

>>516014304
A daemon was a informing spirit and never meant anything bad until judais, I mean christianity came along.

>>516013945
of course I am winning because the Spirit of God is with me. My sins are forgiven and I am a Child of God. Set free from demonic bondage. Healed and restored. No stupid shit you can say to make me doubt my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ the Living God. And after all this is over I get to live eternally with God. So far im winning. No depression, no anxiety, no intrusive thoughts. LMAO. I dont even care what people thing about me any more because all i care about is to please my LORD. Its fantastic to be free.

>>516003437
>I never experienced it, so it's impossible to exist.

Absolute midwit behavior

>>516014393
We receive sacraments. We don’t do anything for them…nigga you need to be catechized.

>>516014452
yah man, sacrificing your child so it rains for crops is such a reasonable "information".

>>516011740
Absolutely not. You have to understand that ostracization and rejection is the absolute worst fate these people can face because deep down theyre just normies who crave attention and belonging. That's why they're so eager to express their dogshit opinions online and in public. If they lose their jobs and become unemployable, and lose their families and friends on top of it, they will be living in pure hell.

>>516014560
nah, I rather rely on Jesus Christ than on works by man. you should try it.

>>516013165
Terry A. Davis was literally building the operating system for God’s temple on earth, at his direction. Why didn’t God cure Terry of his demons? Was he not as devout as possible?

Can you name any schizophrenics who have been cured by the lord? Can you prove it?

>>516014695
Sacriments are not works by man. Its works of God. Its what God provides.

>>516014606
Changes the subject
Yahweh sacrificed his son for you and you worship that sacrifice everyday lol

>>516003026
This. The right is more hateful and demonic. They don't mind Palestinians getting killed.

>>516002439 (OP)
Spirits are real and they can possess you. Simple as. It shouldn't be used to excuse all human behavior though, that would be a cop-out. Humans do a lot of shit without help from spirits.

>>516014718
Many people claim many things, but we judge it by their fruits.

Personally i dont know anyone restored from schizophrenia, but i heard testimonies of people who claim they were schizo and Jezus set them free. I also had my own does of mental problems and they were taken away when I came to faith, so I don't have any reason to doubt it.

>>516003026
There is a MASSIVE difference between advocating killing on a basketweaving forum and advocating killing on your LinkedIn account.
This website has evil yes. Key difference is it's anonymous and has many foreigners on it. In anonymity people generally will be shitty.

The leftists are celebrating this with their full legal names, jobs, and sometimes even addresses out in the open and expecting it to just be fine and acceptable.

>>516015071
>but i heard testimonies of people who claim they were schizo and Jezus set them free
Thats because christianity is a schizo delusion. It pacifies their delusions with a pre programmed one.

>>516015037
Its not about excusing, but about the logical consequence of it. If people are demonically possessed, we are not dealing with people, now are we?

There are for sure degrees/stages and or areas of psyche that are under demonic possession.

>>516014797
the sacrifice was for my sins 2000 years before I even existed. I didnt ask for it, I only received it in faith that God provided.
my God is a living God, who died once for all my sins, was buried and resurrected on the third day and reigns from heaven now.
he takes care of every issue in my life for me without me having to do anything than putting my faith into him. meanwhile you want to go back to worshiping useless fools by acts of work. laughable.

>>516014786
how are sacraments not works of man? their very definition is works and rites.

>>516002439 (OP)
> Why do Christians believe in utter stupid shit like Demon possession
To be fair, the atheist alternative explanation (Freudian Psychoanalysis) is not scientific either, it's totally made-up. And the demon metaphor worked for thousands of years, it proved it's worth. Believing in personal forces that resemble the experience of our own mind and will and making them responsible is more relieving than trying to comprehend the causality of abstract concepts. It's just no longer the favorite interpretation of more reasonable, educated people.

>>516015300
MEDS NOW

>>516015174
So i was delusional when i had my mental problem, and now when I no longer have them after Jesus set me free i'm also delusional. Got it

>>516015300
>the sacrifice was for my sins
What does that even fucking mean? You guys say this shit over and over and I don’t think you actually even know what it means because it doesn’t actually mean anything.

>>516015092
Sure, bud

>>516015461
Yes

>>516015454
so you want to enter the court of judgement without the free attorney God provided for your behalf but want to rely on justifying yourself?
are you fucking retarded? we laugh about niggers who do this irl.

What ancient people used to think were possessed people and demons were just unhinged leftists of ancient times...

>>516015379
They are ordained by God, not by men. God releases His grace through them. This is how God chose to do it. Its not uncommon for God to use material things to do spiritual things.

>>516015571
cool story bro, hope it makes you sleep well

>>516014695
Brother it is literally Jesus Christ Himself Who pours Himself out for us in the holy Eucharist.

>>516003437
I like how even our elites are highly superstitious and believe in the supernatural, metaphysical world and yet normie's bought the meme that rejecting religion somehow makes you more intelligent. That's the fundamental issue for me, the elites believe in it, our own government has funded studies on it, and midwits disregard it.

>>516015487
it means you are a peace of shit, and when you get what you deserve you will get hell because you are not a good person. You are actually evil bastard.

>>516015279
>If people are demonically possessed, we are not dealing with people, now are we?
True, but I advocate for every case to be examined before that conclusion is made about somebody. Free-will and responsibility for your actions are real too, both in this world and in Gods eyes. Karma m8, there's no running from it.

Christians ask yourself this: what if the bible is a lie? What if you have been deceived by a bunch of liars? You realize then that the world is being brought into a giant psy op right?

>>516015835
>You are actually evil bastard.
Jeet

>>516002439 (OP)
Listen to Malachi Martin on Art Bell and elsewhere
Demon possession is thoroughly real and so are demons in human bodies
Jewish rabbis are all over jewtube bragging about walking breathing demons amongst their own jewish community
What do you think trannies are? Chopping their sexual organs consecrates them to possession
>>516003026
>Whattaboutism
another jewish demonic worm «argument»
>>516003437
Right. Which is why demonic possession exhibits non-human behavior, like justifying victimizing the innocent
>>516004126
Yup it’s all insectoid, as was naziism btw

>>516015488
There is. I can say fuck niggers and Jews on here with no issue. I cannot do that with my full name, address, and job posted and expect a positive result. Go ahead and test it for me.

>>516002439 (OP)
American christians have been bred to be the most politically inarticulate people to ever exist

>>516002439 (OP)
An invisible force that runs in the background of your mind and is not only bigger than you but is merely using you to execute its lifeless cold program. Very plausible from a Biology perspective.

>>516015487
and sin is a transgression against God since we were created in his image and are to represent God. falling short of that we go into transgression and any sin is to be paid in blood, which is the soul. thus sin leads to death.
by providing his own blood on our behalf and dying for our sins we are spoken free and not guilty before God who is a righteous judge.

when you commit a serious crime irl you expect punishment as a result. its natural. the same happens in the supernatural. when you commit sin the satan can accuse you before God with the death penalty since you transgressed Gods law. by having the blood of Jesus cover you satan cant bring a case against you since your debt has already been paid by Jesus.
its simple legalism since satan is a legalist.

>>516002439 (OP)
Because it's based on new testament scripture. Beelzebub is real. Try reading your bible.

>>516016017
The only evidence for “Demons” is from a jewish golem handbook lol. How convenient.

The Lord will REIGN and you disgusting devil-people will be PUNISHED

>>516016167
>and sin is a transgression against God since we were created in his image and are to represent God
Yahweh and Jesus are not my god.

>>516016208
No they're real and there's tons of evidence. I've dealt with daemons personally, people call them aliens now.

>>516014658
>If they lose their jobs and become unemployable, and lose their families and friends on top of it, they will be living in pure hell.
as leftists would say themselves: "oh sweet summer child"
read this thread https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/343398830/

>>516004438
Nope. I would notice, not being a skeptard.

>>516016208
Virtually all religions describe the existence of metaphysical good and evil. Your presupposition that it cannot exist just tells me you've done things you don't want to be judged for.

>>516016346
Lol
Christianity is a mind virus and it is going to enslave us all into the NWO.

>>516016495
I didn't say anything about Christianity. Daemon is the Greek word for spirit dumbass.

>>516016454
An all powerful god allows humans to be possessed by demons and murder people? Why

>>516016495
you have nothing to offer

>>516015605
>Its not uncommon for God to use material things to do spiritual things.
thats was in the OT. since the Holy Spirit was given to us at pentecost we dont need human works anymore. its all handled in the supernatural. all was completed by Christ on the cross.
>They are ordained by God
>This is how God chose to do it
I have yet to read about sacraments in the bible.
its all handled by faith, not by works and sacraments are works.

>>516016584
How bout being a normal rational person that doesn’t need jewish texts to think

>>516015723
nope, that is heretical. Jesus died once for us on the cross and accomplished it. not every mass, that just borders on paganism or outright satanism.

Christians are faggots who want us all to roleplay into their delusions about magic Jews and spooky interdimensional goblins. We need to bring back insane asylums for all of them. They need help.

>>516016170
Do you also believe in Hogwarts because it’s written down, bong?

>>516004481
> It's also useful for when they rape kids--just blame it on "demons,"
Seen several child-murdering gay couples having called their victim a demon
There’s no redpilling a skepdik though
They are the greatest believers on earth

>>516016307
then you have nothing. you will perish in the second death of your soul.

>>516002439 (OP)
>Demons don't exist
Pic rel, anon, pic rel

>>516016824
Based on… oh thats right, jew books. Lol I’ll take my chances.

>>516016208
nigger, every native american and african believed in spirits long before christianity reached them. you are actually fucking uneducated. the chinese still believe in spirits today.

>>516013838
Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but Christianity was created and edited by jews to convince morons like you to be a slave to them. If you're any brand of Abrahamic filth you should kill yourself or wake up and decouple yourself from jewish mind viruses

>>516015034
I don’t give a fuck about palicucks. Big Khazar milkers are my deities.

>>516016601
This is a weak argument, because Apostles had disciples, and those disciples had disciples, and so forth. From them we know about sacraments. They were the Early Church, and what they say IS what is right. Not your modern rediscovery of the Bible, ok? You do not get to reinvent Christianity. That is why Protestants are weak and stoopid compared to the real Churches like Catholics and Orthodox who have the line of succession that can be traced back to first Apostles.

>>516017082
You should be castrated

>>516016662
and who decides what is normal? Goldstein from TV?

>>516017016
My point is you say demon and you’re calling my gods evil spirits. You’re brainwashed to think YOUR GODS are evil.

>>516016960
you should actually read up on what pagan afterlife looks like.
comes pretty close to hell.

>>516013945
>>516014304
>>516015454
>When you scry an electric obsidian mirror all day but can't see the irony in its images polarizing you into doing shit you wouldn't normally do.

Mirror mirror in your hand, watch your words or else you're banned

>>516016580
Murder and demons = evil. Evil doesn't come from God. Like us, God gave Satan free will to do as he wishes. God does not however abandon us to the power of evil and demons. Those who seek will find. Those who want rebellion, those who want murder and evil, are granted free will to do so. I've seen more people wish for demonic possession than wish to be freed of demonic possession.

>>516017193
Retard alert!

>>516002439 (OP)
>Why do Christians believe in utter stupid shit like Demon possession and other make believe things?
In Christianity emotion states are not the product of the brain, but the controlling forces of good and evil. When someone does something bad, it's the demons, and needs to be denounced. "The demons have you." When someone does something good, it's jesus/god, and needs to be promoted. "the lord was with him."

>How can we help them?
Reinforce their ideas. If christians ever learn that they wont go to hell for killing you trannies, you'd all be dead.

>>516017223
All things come from God, retard.

>>516017077
then how come I am not a slave to jews? your logic is flawed.

>>516002439 (OP)
You are a kike.

>>516016960
https://youtu.be/l3Ht25fJoYM?si=ekXppl5i64qAShuN
Neopaganism is bullshit.

>>516017356
You are

>>516017336
last year about 30-40 milions of babies were killed in abortion. Just by last year statistics Satan kills way more. LMAO. Death itself is from satan.

>>516017356
You're repeating jewish teachings learned from jewish texts spoken by and written down by jews. You think these ideas are somehow not jewish. This is why you are a slave to jews. If you cannot understand this, then anything further is a waste of my time.

>>516017097
all I read is that you are full of pride. remember what the sin of satan was?
we have the Holy Spirit inspired scriptures and none of them support catholic traditions but disprove them as works that dont lead to righteousness since only faith makes us righteous that is given to us by the free gift of grace.
read your fucking bible.

OP proves that The Midwit is the Devil's best unwitting tool in this world.

>>516017537
Who created cultural marxism?

>>516017645
the sanhedrin

>>516017582
>Remember this basic human feeling from a job well done?
>It's actually evil!
Absolute retardation

>>516017712
Jews

>>516017187
oh yeah, the guy who whored his own daughter out to fucking giants sounds like such a based guy...
or what about the dude that transformed into a bull and fucked europa?
totally not depraved and degenerate.

fuck your demonic gods.

>>516002439 (OP)
Ignoring the political aspect of this, I was a pure mechanist, degree in biochem/molecular bio, and believed in none of this, but I ended up pretty sure I saw something with a different personality, which was riding along inside a relative take him over and come out.

It was very strange - same physical body, but a panicky, angsty, emotional wreck turned calm, cocky, arrogant, and body posture changed, movement changed, it was wild. Like a different person in the same skinsuit.

There is a basic category error people make, which is if they have not seen it, and the retards who make the error themselves and go around telling everyone they are an expert haven't seen it, it cannot exist.

That will hold, until you are like the MD/PhDs the Catholic Church brought in to vet exorcisms, who did not believe in any of it going in, but came out saying there was some real, non-physical intelligence which can interact with the world.

Go through life with your eyes and mind open for anything which contradicts your beliefs, and the world can get real interesting, real fast.

>>516017249
imagine slaving yourself out to some lower gods.

>>516017336
>Why doesn't God do something about all the evil in the world!!!!
>Why did God do something about all the evil in the world????
You hate God until he acts, then once God acts, you judge him.
>>516017350
Not evil. Evil is a corruption, an absence of light. The overwhelming majority of our suffering rn is literally caused by us harming each other.

>>516002439 (OP)
>Demons dont exist oy vey
We are on to you children of the devil

For, tell me, is not the dwelling place of demons a place of impiety even if no god's statue stands there? Here the slayers of Christ gather together, here the cross is driven out, here God is blasphemed, here the Father is ignored, here the Son is outraged, here the grace of the Spirit is rejected. Does not greater harm come from this place since the Jews themselves are demons?

>>516017779
>fuck your demonic gods.
And there is is. The christkike reveals himself.

>>516017582
protestant talking about pride is a good one. Aren't you the one who thinks he can interpret the Bible by yourself and doesnt need the church to tell him? Isn't that arrogance? In wanting to protest the Pope, you became your own pope, and for that reason protestant's are so fragmented. You do not submit to authority other than your own ego.

Her name is actually "Erika", LOL these fucking Jews know how to yank 'em.

>>516004587
Demons have always been here convincing humans to disfigure themselves.

>>516017422
I am not in that picture, so you are wrong.

>>516017542
the teachings of the bible are not jewish teachings. jews teach the complete opposite and follow the talmud instead of their scriptures.

>>516017833
>Lower gods
Again your idea of what the hierarchy of creation is is entirely dictated to you by jewish teachings. It's pitiful and disgusting. You worship a jewish god from jewish pantheons. You are so disconnected from your ancestors it would be a mercy to end your life.

>>516017895
>7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
You're going against the Bible and you don't even realize it nigger. The knowledge of good and evil is a form of duality, all things come from the same source.

>>516005046
Yup. Or just introduce living plasmids to the tards
Hylics amirite

This is what you sound like if you're an atheist:

>see a bunch of kids sitting on santas knee
>creepy neckbeard: SANTA ISN'T REAL YOU STUPID FUCKS

>go to china
>they worship their ancestors or some shit idk
>creepy neckbeard: Well, your ancestor probably wasn't very special, he was probably a fucking retard and definitely isn't watching over you

>go to Iraq
>everyone is coming together to celebrate Ramadan
>creepy neckbeard: you realize your prophet got raped by indians, right?

>>516018091
Jesus was a jewish teacher. A rabbi.

>>516003437
Who said anything about “magic” and “superstition” you stupid kike? Those are Jew words. Get fucked. They evil is embodied and in front of our eyes, in living flesh. Be gone, fucking demon. Lash your tongue up someone else’s arse!

>>516017895
Yup theyll look for any excuse to hate God. As it was said "they hated him for no reason"

Jesus went on to say, “To what, then, can I compare the people of this generation? What are they like? 32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to each other:

“‘We played the pipe for you,
and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge,
and you did not cry.’

33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children.”

>>516018113
https://youtube.com/shorts/9jXvwQY08BQ

God must be real because the left certainly behaves like satan is

>>516018151
You're wasting your time. These "people" could not comprehend the great uncreated creator. The divine source is forever out of their reach in this life and it's their own fault.

>>516002439 (OP)
>omnibenevolent jew god graciously creates demons for the sole purpose of possessing us
Gee, thanks Yahweh.

>>516005455
Yes. But I believe in retards more. Thank you for strengthening my faith.

An ordained rabbi owns pornhub. By their fruits you shall recognize them.

https://time.com/7017403/solomon-friedman-pornhub-ethical-interview/

>>516018386
Yea you’re a Germanic person who is for destroying your own Gods and you somehow think thats based.

>>516018222
its afraid

>>516017725
so you say you can work to feel righteous?
thats not scriptural, all glory is to God, not your own carnal feelings. if it feels good its most likely wrong.

>>516017946
I couldnt make sense of the bible until I was born in the Holy Spirit who explained it to me, so its not of my own doing. God is my teacher.

> In wanting to protest the Pope, you became your own pope, and for that reason protestant's are so fragmented. You do not submit to authority other than your own ego.
tf are you talking about? we arent americans, we have one protestant church in germany that calls itself evangelische Kirche and is a lapdog of the pope anyway. protestantism in germany is long dead.
I am a bible believing christian. I was never religious, but by the grace of God he decided to reveal himself to me through the scriptures so I put my faith and believe in him alone. what more would you ever want?
we are in the last church age, the apostate church, so I would look out if I were you. the roman church was pagan and heretical from the start, its babylon the great whore and you cant deny that in this time and age.

>>516002439 (OP)
Because the christian right is nigger tier retarded. Their spiritual beleifs are literal west african 80 iq shamanism level. They are grown ass asults who believe a magic spirit in the sky will smite their enemies if they do a prayer ritual hard enough.

>>516018353
>Somehow he concludes the existence of God despite only demons and satanists plaguing us
What, because you're outraged? That's just proof of you.

>>516005708
Mossad-CIA did it as usual
Lone gunmen theories are for retards

>>516002439 (OP)
Stop making him sound cool.

>>516017821
>Go through life with your eyes and mind open for anything which contradicts your beliefs, and the world can get real interesting, real fast.
Yeah the problem is that people who give this advice to convince you of something that they believe have absolutely never lived like this themselves

>>516002439 (OP)
>utter stupid shit like demon possession

Demon possession is incredibly real. Relegating everything to just being “mental illness” that you can “fix” with brain damaging chemicals is a secular jewish invention. It is intentional that the Zionist world order wants to push secularism, nihilism, and a denial of spiritual reality onto the masses, despite spiritual reality being objectively real and influential.

Consider that the elites who have funded the mass push of naturalist, atheist propaganda onto the masses and in academia/media, yet they themselves engage in esoteric rituals and occultism involving summoning demons, attempting to grant themselves supernatural power, etc

By convincing the masses to be blind to and reject the spiritual realm, malicious actors in the spiritual realm have nothing standing in their way to demonically influencing people.

I have come to realize this relatively recently. Attended an Orthodox Christian service today and I can tell you it’s all true and real. Endless happy white families and tons of happy white children who have ascended beyond the petty influence of demonic society, it was so freeing and beautiful. Praise God

>>516018151
You're not even Christian and yet are trying to educate me on what the Bible means. Which translation are you referring? In Hebrew, the original written language, "calamity" was the term.

>>516016495
So you do believe in mind viruses.

>>516006112
Entirely possible, because it’s made of people
You’re projecting though: check your own shadow

>>516017821
Hey bud. If your background is in what you say it is. You should look up Harold Hillman.
https://criticalcheck.wordpress.com/2024/02/14/why-you-should-know-about-harold-hillmans-work-on-the-living-cell/

I think we lack a lot of sound explanations for the workings of biology because we have left a pile of shit become our non questionable foundation. Dont worry. Its not some ESP sczio shit, and fairly understandable, we have massive systemic control problems today, but in yesteryear we decided emerging imaging tech didnt need to be scrutinized or understood before making shit immortalized as scientific fact. We know so little in actuality its actually kind of exciting.

>>516018770
I’ll say it again you think it’s based to destroy your own gods

>>516018394
I'm truly at a loss that the truth that has led western civilization to prosperity for thousands of years will never reach the heights you have achieved. Really.

>>516018394
It's on them and society. These things are taught to control a people and maintain order, they're not sincere about the nature of God.

>>516017914
>nooo, dont call my sexual deviant idols demonic
faggot, I said so from the start

>>516018729
First Church was not Roman, and was persecuted by Rome for 300 years. We have writings of those people and their teachings are true Christianity. They believed in water baptism, in eucharist, in confession. These are the sacraments. I would rather be careful when talking shit about the Church Fathers. You having the Holy Spirit doesnt give you authority over the Church, nor makes you the ultimate interpreter of the Bible. And by the way you are talking I can clearly deduct you are heavily influenced by the protestant poison that is spewing out of the internet.

>>516006199
Before WW1, seeing fairies among evropeans was common and culturally accepted; only slightly special
Tolkien’s first poem was purely about that

>>516018098
is murder and depravity all you think about? repent.

>>516019136
yes i think its based to destroy demons. There is no other God buy Yahweh.

>>516018202
weird, the rabbies of his time wanted him crucified.

>>516002677
It's an american thing.

>>516002439 (OP)
>tranny shooter murder jerking off to furry demons

if that's not demonic, what is?

>>516018942
The Hebrew word is רָע (ra), an adjective that means bad, evil, disagreeable, or wicked. It's related to the verb רָעַע (raʿa) and can describe moral depravity, social wrongdoing, or natural calamity.
That verse means what it means. You have to think beyond duality, the knowledge Adam and Eve got in the Garden of Eden which causes their death, to understand God.

>>516003026
it's because /pol/ is full of people with pure hate and violent rage. This place has a black soul.

>>516019256
Do you know who else thinks the gods are idols? Jews

>>516006241
The jews believe they have actual demons walking among them
And it makes them all giddy and proud

>>516002439 (OP)
>>516016240

woodberry

>>516018942
>In Hebrew
Implying any other form of Bible is "legitimate". I personally will gladly educate any Mormon on how retarded their beliefs are without reading their trite or converting to their backwater beliefs They literally worship an angel named "Moron" and Christians literally worship the 40k jesus and praise him for ending the Judas Heresy. Implying I'm gonna read that shit, give me a "TL;DR" but they won't because beliefs don't work that way and they "believe" it in so many different fucking ways that I may as well make one up myself and start my own branch of Christian Church.

>>516002439 (OP)
>How can we help them?
you can't. they have been brainwashed since they were babies.

>>516006631
Strawman and projection

>>516019550
a broken clock is right twice a day

>>516019628
Source?

>>516019916
You hold the same beliefs as jews lol.

>>516006734
Hopefully this guy got what he deserved. Never saw a photo of him after this

>>516002439 (OP)
American religion is massively perverse, twisted and sick from millionaire priests to israel worshipping to cutting dicks of defenseless babies. Americas religion is fucking sick and insane and the people who do it are also.

>>516019349
>God isnt the author of his own Word and the only one who can interpret it correctly to you.
>somehow you agree with everything Jesus, the apostles and Paul teach
>but its totally not from God
>here, we have these human traditions you must practice because we say so
>also follow everything our Holy Father says from his throne of rome calling himself literally the representative of Christ on earth
>pls ignore that Jesus Christ rules from heaven
no thanks. repent, receive the Holy Spirit and read the bible.

>you are heavily influenced by the protestant poison that is spewing out of the internet
it doesnt need a genius to tell that the entire history of the catholic church goes completely against the teachings of God. its disguised paganism for pagans that dont want to be called pagans.
their entire theology is works based salvation.

>>516017779
>impregnated an underage girl, then killed the child in a ritual sacrifice
>demanded a dude kill his son for him, then said sike
>turned a dude’s family into pillars of salt for daring to look back at horrific noises
>flooded the world and drowned fucking everyone because he let the world get a bit too gay
>demands men cut the tips of their dicks off for him
>once had a guy convince a bunch of dudes to cut the tips of their dicks off, and then had that guy kill all of them while they were reeling from the pain
bro ur god is a psycho lmao, talk about a demon

>>516006739
>opposing truth and supernatural
ngmi

>>516003026
This.

>>516020006
this is a genetic fallacy.

>>516002439 (OP)
>>516002677
>>516003437
>>516004400
My personal analysis of religion and incredibly religious people is that it's a mechanism for extreme coping under the stress of a seemingly indifferent universe. Between death, war, plague, rapid changes, lack of sturcture, lack of communities & families - the stress of a world that doesn't seem to care piles up. Those with a weaker mental game are thus drawn to fantasy, escapism, and magic - not too different than videogames, story books, movies, etc.

There just always have to he invisible and magical forces causing evil, for the common man cares not to look at reality for what it is or employ rationality.

>>516007046
Take your latest booster, goblin

>>516002439 (OP)
Why do you have your own biases and believe the stupid shit you believe?

Have some fucking perspective. If you had to ask this question on 4chan of all places you are the special kind of stupid.

>>516020232
You believe the pagan gods are bad
You believe in one god
You believe in a messiah
You believe in a messianic end time prophecy

>>516007158
>>516007158
Not how it works, homo
Speak to the manager

>>516020245
OP asked about demonic possession, not about religion lol

>>516019550
they are literally wooden poles and rocks. I mean, come on.

>>516020035
looks like he got away with a mild tinnitus.

>>516020081
The Catholic theology on the Bible is way more accurate than yours.

>>516020245
Not an argument

It could just as easily be pushed that the other way around, for people who reject the spiritual realm and God, that they do so because they have too much pride/fear to accept being accountable to an ultimate authority, and would rather be more comfortable simply rejecting any notion of something being beyond them that has the full right and power to bring judgment upon them.

Your argument relies on an underlying assumption that it makes more sense for there to be nothing and no objective governor of anything, yet you rely on truth claims, value judgments that the truth is preferable to the false, etc etc that you can’t justify without saying “uh just because bro”. This leaves you with the more logically untenable position

these reddit geniuses be like "If demons are real they why can't we measure them with science?"

I dont believe in demon possession but its becoming real now when i see non believers entertain their hateful intrusive thoughts

If you'd rather hate kill hurt someone you dont like because of their opinions
Then the higher demons are possessing you
>>516007089

https://youtu.be/q9leDzlNEaY?si=uoiP6UOSxoDE_DTH

Its has manifested

>>516007723
Lack of it is brain damage

>>516020135
Oh no!

Secular states killed more people in the 20th century than were alive on the entire planet throughout the biblical period. Let that sink in and fuck off commie loving scumbags.

>>516020135
you know that most of the OT is about people NOT doing what God wants them to do, right?

>>516020470
Who else but religious people believes there are red horned invisible creatures that make you do evil things? Brazil, not known for its intelligence for certain.

>>516007795
So a pic of your loved ones doesn’t make you feel emotions because it’s just pixels
Gents, the skeptard materialist self-assfucker

>>516020589
>fallible men are way more accurate than the Holy Spirit
wew lad, talking about blasphemies...

>>516020755
They haven’t read the Septuagint

The OT is one of the most anti semitic texts of all time, in terms of being modern anti semitic ie it consistently condemns jews for failing God, murdering prophets, and has many instances of non jewish high priests of God being more valiantly moral and virtuous than jews. They were an example, not a prioritized group

>>516020603
Empirical evidence and rationality have proven to be better descriptors of the universe than organized religion ever was. It's simply a far more accurate world model. Through observation, theorizing, experimentation, validation - we are able to describe the universe at a far better and deeper scope.

Under your system of third world lala magic and spooky ghosts - we are stuck with being unable to formulate basic existence itself. What is fire? Invisible magic red demons caused it. What is electricity? Also invisible magic demons. Viruses or microorganisms we can't see? Just need to get the demons out!

Anyone can enter a fantasy world of possibilities and make belief. Can you face reality for once?

>>516021050
>They were an example, not a prioritized group
exactly, makes me shudder every time I look at modern churches since the same standard applies to christians now. when you have secular people pointing out hypocrisies and false teachings in the church you know its grim.

>>516012440
You underestimate my faith in Christ and the lengths Im willing to go over it. Remember, I can be forgiven for what I do to you.

>>516007795
hopefully you can watch a video of your daughter being raped someday. Let us know how it doesn't make you feel (it's just pixels)

>>516003026
>What I see on the Internet
Ftfy

>>516020750
>god being a psycho and killing his kids for lols is okay because Stalin and Hitler got a higher score than him
lol your beliefs are so fucked, you genuinely need to be euthanized

>>516014531
pride cometh before the fall

All this posting is just engaging in mortal sin

>>516003026
SPBP trvthnvke
/pol/fags trying to moralize is always funny

>>516020760
Shows how much you know about the topic

>>516021228
Holy Reddit retardation

>Empirical evidence and rationality have proven to be better descriptors of the universe than organized religion ever was. It's simply a far more accurate world model. Through observation, theorizing, experimentation, validation - we are able to describe the universe at a far better and deeper scope.

Saying that empirical evidence works is an endorsement of God, dummy. By admitting that the universe follows a consistent and ordered structure within which empirical experimentation works and we can consistently track data over time, you automatically admit that there is an underlying metaphysical structure to the world allowing for the discovery of laws of logic, mathematics, etc within the world.

You cannot maintain that there is no underlying essence governing the physical world via metaphysical intellect serving as a first cause, and then try to appeal to the reliability of “rationality” and “empiricism” in the next sentence. There is no reason to value “rationality” or to think the faculties we have allow for rationality at all in a universe without an undergirding rational principle defining what it means.

We have centuries and centuries of philosophy on these topics, you gotta study some of it before you spew your ignorant opinions everywhere. If you don’t want to look like a reddit amateur, anyway.

>>516003884
Your fingers broken faggot? Try a search engine or the Bible.

>>516020604

Literally, there is something 50,000 to a million years advanced beyond us on the planet according to the Pentagon, we have seen video of it flying around, there is an account from like 1500 of some kind of great aerial war it fought defending the planet from something, but people are still thinking we can pin everything down and full examine it, when our own intelligence services are keeping us about 5 years beyond the state of technology.

NEW THREAD

>>516021770
>>516021770
>>516021770

>>516003026
>>516002677

>>516021917
50 years.

>shooter was a young white male

NOOOOO HE WAS POSSESSED BY DEMONS, READ THE BIBLE AHHHHHH

Why do whites keep pushing some samd nigger religion

>>516021855
>Saying that empirical evidence works is an endorsement of God, dummy.
>By admitting that the universe follows a consistent and ordered structure within which empirical experimentation works and we can consistently track data over time
Really? So where is your study and documentation of demons? How did you quantify them, how did you track them, what kind of data do you have? What models and theories did you bring forward to verify and validate about demons? What about other forms of magic, wizardry, and miracles?

Oh, right... you don't have anything. Your primitive baby bitch trailer trash park brain can only respond with the following: "muh reddit atheism" while it clings to the belief that Abrahamism/systemic religion is somehow an objective scientific model that values experimentation, evidence, and rationality.

Don't reply to me, it feels disgusting to be linked to by such a dirty subhuman.

>>516022287
because we care enough about you so you dont go to hell.

>>516003026
>What I see on /pol/ is much more demonic than anything I see the left say or do
true

>>516022409
Wow so original I keep hearing the same thing from 5,000 other religions

>>516022407
> Really? So where is your study and documentation of demons? How did you quantify them, how did you track them, what kind of data do you have? What models and theories did you bring forward to verify and validate about demons? What about other forms of magic, wizardry, and miracles?

The entire point is that there is a realm of existence that goes beyond solely empirical sense data, for example truth claims, pre recorded history, human consciousness, etc. Science can only describe empirical phenomena, it cannot wholly explain the entire nature of existence because there are aspects of existence which exist beyond and independently of empirical sense data. How’d you miss the point this hard? You’ve gotta activate your critical thinking skills for a bit.

>>516020427
So did the Aryans. They only described different aspects of the one God who can better be described by Sat-Chit-Ananda.

>>516002439 (OP)
Demons exist though.

>>516023195
may I see them?

>>516002439 (OP)
it's real
you can conjure them yourself

>>516022670
>The entire point is that there is a realm of existence that goes beyond solely empirical sense data
You can't make that claim without evidence. You could say at best, there's a possibility, not that there is.
>Science can only describe empirical phenomena
Right, but it can describe it accurately through trial/error & experimentation. No one can ever verify or know whether your bullshit is real. Your position has as much value as Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings... which is 0.

And the thing here to note is that you're already giving up on discovering new and future concepts, instead preferring to credit the magical, mystical, and impossible to understand for it. It's typical of the peasant-religious groid mindset. Like I said, you would be terrified of demons in the fire, lightning, and celestial bodies if someone else with a brain didn't figure out how they worked for you.