Thread 516007344

Hypothetically speaking, which side is more prepared for civil war? Take account that one side doesn't believe in objective morality.

>I'm actually anti-violence.

>>516007344 (OP)
In a US civil war between the left and right, Israel would be the winner.

>>516007344 (OP)
The side in the trailer park and those in rural america as they're gonna sit back and enjoy the shitshow.

>>516007729
This, and Russia.

>>516007344 (OP)
The only sides that will matter is rural and urban. Urban has the advantage in the short term. Rural has the advantage in the long term.

>>516007344 (OP)
The Left
>better educated
>better organized
>wealthier
>concentration of forces (mostly live in dense urban areas)
>control the ports and major air lanes
>will be favored by the international community

>>516008934
Short term meaning a few days

>>516009635
is "the left is better educated" meme from when they all signed up for college en masse in the 60's to draft dodge?

>>516008525

PPR is too fucking expensive!

>>516007344 (OP)
Violence is funny and I am tired of pretending that it isn't.

Whoever follows the law and looks least unhinged, wins

>>516007344 (OP)
the left will swipe the right. not to mention canada will back up the left. also you have remember south-america. the right is pretty much screwed if they want to go to civil war

>>516007344 (OP)
> The side that supposedly pulls of assassinations, coups and general political violence
Vs
> The side that seethes about it
I don't know anon, seems like a tie

>>516007729
also this. imagine giving kikes the race-/civil-war they wants

muttoids are fucking retarded

>>516007729
FPBP

>>516007344 (OP)
Depends on if you're talking about the civil war retards are imagining, where clearly delineated Left vs. Right territory is made and organized armies engage one another. That one would probably go to the right, and a bunch of gay hollywood actors would be in it too because it's a fucking fantasy. In actuality I'm giving this to the left at the moment simply because the instant a civil war breaks out, you will have Canada, Mexico, then entirety of the EU, Russia, China, Japan, Korea, the entire fucking world really putting their thumb on the scale in one way or another for their own benefit. And so far conservative isolationism and tariffs are not conducive to getting in the good graces of a lot of these countries. They probably wouldn't dare put their own ground troops in America, but they'd definitely send munitions and other resources to the side they want to win. From that point it becomes a protracted, brutal war of attrition where the only victory is pyrrhic because whatever is left of America will be too weak to stave off extreme foreign influence. Not looking forward to the next 50 years.

Military combat trades are filled with rightwing people you don't want squads of legitimate infantryman doing guerilla warfare it'll get messy

>>516010143
kek

>>516009836
No it means their less likely to fall for Jewish tricks

>>516010230
If you take all the other factors out of the equation the libs would win because right are a bunch of pussies, unironically

>>516007344 (OP)
No one is prepared for a civil war.

>>516009836
No, the Left being FAR better educated than the right has been a reality for decades and is still the situation today.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/partisanship-by-race-ethnicity-and-education/

IQ studies also show that progressives are intellectually superior to conservatives.

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/high-iq-genetics-politics/

>>516010029
Cute seal.

What's your point?

>>516010230
>you will have Canada, Mexico, then entirety of the EU, Russia, China, Japan, Korea
yeah pretty much this, the right has no clue

>>516010254
White former military are the tip of the spear when it comes to the overall strategy of 'commit suicide' that whites have been collectively pursuing for decades.

>>516007344 (OP)
I won't do shit other than get drunk as fuck during CW2, the odds of city trash making it near me is slim to none op.

Something tells me the vast majority of retarded leftists do not have a stash of supplies. You should have 6+ months of food at minimum.
Hole up. Dig in. Defend yourself in darkness while the world starves and burns around you. Emerge from the darkness once the masses have perished.

>>516007344 (OP)
Im for the Nepalese solution, cleanse everything with fire, chase the politicians till they are butt naked in the streets, swarm their homes and burn their belongings (because stollen) to the ground, then use Discord to elect a new President and administration, more in touch we your people’s demands.
Nepalese solution is the only solution.

>>516007344 (OP)
I wouldn't bet on the right. They're just not zealous enough.

>>516010695
this is the only correct answer

>>516010676
Stay organized, divided you fall. You need a plan INCLUDING everyone, even the so called “leftists” because this how they divide to conquer you.

>>516010526
IQ studies show whites are superior to non-whites and i bet liberals aren't testing the niggers they hate but infantilize

>>516007344 (OP)
>which side is more prepared for civil war?
civil wars are won by the side which has support from the military (assuming 0 foreign military interventions).

>>516010526
Lmao theze people freak out over misgendering

They will fall apart when the body parts start flying

90% of conservatives have a military background or familial history

Intelligence is a terrible thing to.have for grunts, and is the last thing considered when on the ground

>>516007344 (OP)
No hypotheticals needed. The ones who win are the ones who are willing to do anything.

>>516009635
>>concentration of forces (mostly live in dense urban areas)
Yeah... that's not a good thing.

>>516007344 (OP)
The right. But it wouldn't be the cakewalk they think it would be.

>>516007344 (OP)
The left is more willing.
The right is more capable.

We could eradicate the fags in a week. If only we could get the normies to give up their retarded "if you kill your enemies they win" mentality.

>>516010965
>IQ studies show whites are superior to non-whites

Lol studies from more than a century ago that have been repeatedly debunked

>>516007729
Also this. The amount of white death would be staggering.

>>516010633
The with any militia raised against the state is the state would drone the shit out of them. Martialed forces would get obliterated in any conventional sense so the movement would quickly turn decentralized. If a bunch of farmers or lefties have a standoff and they get droned to shit, the optics would radicalized both sides. But due to survelince the other recourse would be a bunch of guerrilla spree shootings and infrastructure attacks. That would exacerbate the whole thing since a decentralized movement would be a diffuse target for the state as well an agitating force with no clear goal or win condition. So it would he like a 50 year clusterfuck

>>516011111
Wasted digits. Urban warfare is a hellhole for the attacking side
> Inb4 muh bombs
Kikes have been bombing the shit out of Gaza yet Hamas still fucks them

>>516010996
Typically, but that's also in states where most of the population is unarmed and lacks military training or organization outside of the central government's institutions.
We have a large pool of veterans, an armed citizenry, and 50 states with their own governments and militaries.
An internal conflict wouldn't take the same shape as something like a European or Asian civil war.

>>516011455
>We have a large pool of veterans, an armed citizenry, and 50 states with their own governments and militaries.
Aren't most of those right wing though?

>>516007729
And Isreal would back the right. Despite also stabbing the right in the back. Israel could not afford the left winning.

>>516011030
>Lmao theze people freak out over misgendering

A tiny percentage of activists due. And they "freak out" by beating your chud ass.

>They will fall apart when the body parts start flying

Like all those stout righties weeping right now over their hero getting a neck piercing? The crowd of tough, armed TPers who scattered like roaches instead of identifying and returning fire at the shooter?

>90% of conservatives have a military background or familial history

A "background" of shuffling papers at HQ, greasing axles in the motor pool, or serving slop at the Dfac.

And lol @ "familial history". The fact your granddad was shooting up heroin in SE Asia 60 years ago doesn't mean SHIT.

>Intelligence is a terrible thing to.have for grunts, and is the last thing considered when on the ground

Good god you're hopeless.

>>516011111
>Yeah... that's not a good thing.

Yeah, much better to strain your logistical systems and constantly be outnumbered on the offense.

>>516007344 (OP)
>which side is more prepared for civil war?
The one that will get international support. So not the right.

>>516011874
They think all lefties are the retards that occupied and created CHAZ lmao, as I've said already, even by the rightoids admission, one side is capable of assassinations and terrorism, the other side is good at seething about it and saying Jesus will punish them

>>516012221
Both sides will get support and you're crazy if you think the opposite.

>>516012471
You don't see the assassinations that the "right" do because they assassinate people in other countries and are actual trained professionals, not some 22 year old tranny who gets caught the next day.

>>516011561
That ties to a question of mobilization, and then the actual war being fought.
For anything other than a "Left v Right" direct conflict with perfect mobilization and no foreign involvement, that won't much matter.
The Indian anon was suggesting it'd all be decided by the military, no matter the shape of the conflict. I'm saying that organization doesn't have a decisive advantage in this country.

>>516012476
Why would a group led by retards everyone outside of US hates (minus the Zionists) get international support?
>>516012644
If a 22 year old tranny was capable of blowing a hole through one of their most important mfs, and they couldn't do shit about it except cry and try to get random people fired, imagine what a regular guy would do to them lmfao

>>516007344 (OP)
The Nationalist Right wing has absolute executive authority right now.

However they are underestimating what a prolonged guerilla campaign would do to them.

It would be highly destructive and pointless, resulting in diplomacy, once there has been too much blood. Or they will just flatten everyone like Ukraine and Gaza I dunno.

>>516007344 (OP)
>I'm actually anti-violence
for now

>>516013414
Here's your right wing death squad bro

>>516009635
Yeah, all dem edumacated welfare recipients and niggers and illegals. Don't forget, there are more well trained conservatives in blue states than your media lied to you. You see, you're a temper tantrum throwing child, until that one day when the adults have had enough. Keep going, you're doing great.

>>516013414
>The Nationalist Right wing has absolute executive authority right now.
>However they are underestimating what a prolonged guerilla campaign would do to them.
The average nationalist right winger thinks establishment dems are leftists. Their talking point is "extreme leftists" like center right Nancy Pelosi. Their net would be too wide to achieve

>>516013066
>Why would a group led by retards everyone outside of US hates (minus the Zionists) get international support?
because any country with a brain would fund both sides of the War in order to prolong it and kill as many Americans as possible so they could swoop in afterwards.
>If a 22 year old tranny was capable of blowing a hole through one of their most important mfs, and they couldn't do shit about it
He was caught the next day and is going to be executed in the future. I'd say that is doing something about it. He most definitely wasn't the most important "mfer". He was a kosher conservative moderate compared to most of the right and his death is just being used to pull more people from the center to the right. The left are naturally doing this on their own just by how they are reacting.
>regular guy
wtf does that even mean? like not a mentally ill nutcase?

>>516014288
The conservatives have jocko willink and beard oil salesmen, the lefties are FUCKED

Initially the left because of communication networks and ability to move, plan, and associate freely provided by the luxury of not being designated terrorist organization yet which the far right is not afforded. They can preach their rhetoric openly in universities and call for the death of white people and be called brave for and have for decades, the radical right meanwhile has to use small encrypted or unorthodox channels limited to small numbers of people and pray no one is a fed infriltrator or informant and face legal consequences for really trying to organize at all. If we're talking true boogaloo status full blow civil war though as things escalate and peoples actions and associations make their alliances visible in real life allow people to band tongether however the right will quickly come out on top for being more prepared in the immediate material sense of having arms, equipment, vehicles, tools, stockpiles of food and water, emergency supplies, and so on and the knowledge and skills to use them and thus much more capable of actually carrying out actions on the longer timescale. Lefties would have to know their targets and utilize their greater ablity to communicate and all the logistics benefits that provides to strike first and fast on a broad scale seizing what they lack before people organize to stand any fighting chance.

>>516013744
No, this is what people dont understand. A group of communists isnt the left, a group of Nazis isnt the right. The right is the institutional power. They would be in Us Army National Guard uniforms

>>516011778
I think Israel would support killing as many white people as possible, they seem to be very honest about it at least

>>516009635
The afghans beat the USSR and the USA without any of those things.

>>516014437
> He was a kosher conservative moderate compared to most of the right and his death is just being used to pull more people from the center to the right
The fact that his death got this much attention from the government itself says otherwise
> wtf does that even mean? like not a mentally ill nutcase?
Yes, and that would be a fuckton of regular people, especially since the working class like factory wagies would join them out of obvious reasons
>>516014570
That's true, but you have to understand that there would be a ton of desertions and internal sabotage in the armed forces

>>516013414
>It would be highly destructive and pointless, resulting in diplomacy
What kind of diplomacy are you expecting, exactly?
Suppose D.C uses its authority to wipe Chicago off the face of the earth. What then? How do you walk back from that? Most right-wingers aren't so die-hard that they'd support that. You'd have National Guard units swarming D.C and unannounced military defections ASAP.
Congress is split 53:45 and 219:213. The Republican majority could be overturned by a few Boomers getting a tummyache.
The only "diplomacy" would be individual Republican pundits trying to separate themselves from the organization as it implodes, leaving Democrats with all of the powers the Republicans just gave the government, established legal precedent to work from, and an easy excuse to purge Trump's SCOTUS picks or annul the presidency.
Nazis forgot the most important part of the Nazis' rise to power: The desperate, defeated, disarmed population that sees the party's rule as a necessity or inevitability.

>>516009836
it's because nigger women get free college, which 2/3 of them use to get DEI gubmint jobs.

>>516014939
>Yes, and that would be a fuckton of regular people, especially since the working class like factory wagies would join them out of obvious reasons
The majority of the working class is Republican in the US

>>516011561
>Aren't most of those right wing though?

Not at all.

>>516010526
>FAR better educated
Better educated in what? Because it is a hell of a lot more useful to society to know how to fix roofs, do plumbing, etc than having a social sciences degree, yet the former are considered "uneducated" even though they are also skills that take years to learn well.

>>516009635
They already have an army of gangs that literally do their own gun 3dprinting.

>>516010458
this, you dumb chickenhawks have no idea of the suffering you will unleash

>>516014706
correct, this is the goal

>>516015262
Not for long, not a lot of people sre retarded enough to back the parasitic elite and the billionaires who piss on them forever.
The entire culture war and tranny/fag/whatever identity bullshit was started by the bankers to infiltrate the leftist groups in order to make their opposition sound barshit insane, and then they used that to get the rest of the people with conservative opinions on their side, because "the troons and faggots are out to get you"

>>516015952
You have no clue what you are talking about. I don't even know how to respond because it is so stupid.

>>516007344 (OP)
If a civil war happened in the USA again it would be one side vs another. There would be multiple factions scrambling for control. Not to mention various international powers would likely arm specific factions. It would be a bloody mess and no one would really win in the end but the vultures that get the leftovers.

>>516007344 (OP)
Objectively the side that has the army on its side
This is something leftists should be worried about, all these years of shaming service members will cost them dearly

>>516007344 (OP)
Kirk's death made me realize the left would absolutely decimate the right in a civil war.

You have a guy willing to kill his perceived enemies, and masses of white conservative Christians only willing to pray talk and vote in retaliation....

Further you had a right wing white father turning in his son for simply killing a zog propagandist....

Then masses of white right wing conservative Christians saying they too would either kill themselves for raising a killer or kill their son for the act of killing a perceived enemy.

The only acceptable reason to kill him was that he was an ugly, dysgenic, dark-eyed mongrel with retard gaze who apparently fucked trannies.

>>516009635
but they barely have any guns compaared to the right so everything you said is irrelevant

>>516016123
I don't know anon, call me a kike or something if that makes you feel better

>>516017111
Fucking moron thinks muh weapons win wars.

>>516010526
Classic case of book smart vs street smart. The average intelligent leftist doesn’t know nor can they figure out how to survive without their societal safety net.

>>516010526
where tf did you get this pic from? that looks like the barned and noble by my house, the woman behind them looks exactly like a high school friends mother back during the time i knew him and the name tags look like the ones from my middle school that the teachers would wear on field trips

>>516016123
He's talking about OWS and the origins of the ID-pol "left".
He's entirely correct, but you're a Gadsden memer who has no clue why things are the way they are.
>>516015952
See, what I want to know is this: What do these groups think the endgame is? Society is shaped differently nowadays. You can't just enforce your will out of the barrel of a gun using an army as populous at the town you're standing in, or rely on there not being reinforcements coming from every side for every imaginable group.
At what point is anything enforced or written into law? When enough state buildings have nazi flags flying over them? When Mike Johnson says a treaty has been ratified?
The number of actively participating enforcers you'd need to write laws even in an unarmed country is beyond the pale for even our military today. We simply don't staff enough grunts for that because that's not how wars are fought.
The second you get a touch of modern weaponry involved, the plan falls apart.

>>516015296
Interesting. I guess a civil war also turns into a small race war by virtue of most blacks being left. I always thought most vets were on the right.

>>516007344 (OP)
Me, I'm the best prepared

>>516010082

Unhinged .. lol

>>516011315
why would rural people that have food and water at hand, go into a cannibal hell hole that any metropolis would be in this scenario?

>>516009767
Yeah, I don't think a lot of people in urban areas realize that the food can just get turned off

>>516015296
Wrong. US Military has always been composed of a majority of Republicans.

>>516017949
>be me
>rural Chad
>ww3 and civil war starts
>cities get nooked by chink and russian subs
>my power goes out
>still have some solar to power my well pump
>some city nigger shows up on my road half starved with a gun to "raid" my house
>shoot him from the treeline and leave his nigger corpse there
This is the civil war

>>516017365
>He's entirely correct, but you're a Gadsden memer who has no clue why things are the way they are.
Stfu, retard. You were probably in diapers during OWS and then you come here spouting out garbage that you probably learned from memes. I was there. Were you? Be honest.

>>516009836
on one hand, vietnam was bullshit that the us gov manufactured to keep the cold war grift going
on the other, boomers are a bunch of gutless cowards for fleeing in terror of the draft instead of telling the feds to shove it up their ass

>>516018431
I see you've fixed up your flag, LOLbert.
And no, I didn't attend.

>>516007344 (OP)
One side has no moral qualms about shooting people. But the other side has most of the guns. It's hard to say.

>>516007344 (OP)
At this point I strongly believe that the govt is carefully managing left/right extremist aggro to prevent a civil war and this means letting the more aggressive side claim the occasional scalp while disproportionately suppressing the more dangerous side.
As to how an actual civil war would go, it would come down to how long it takes for the right to realize they're being picked off by LWDS and meaningfully organize if at all. Rightoids are mostly very selfish, thoughtless and have a lot to lose so they prefer others to take the risk. Leftoids are demon-possessed berserkers by comparison (granted a lot of this is because they don't understand consequence) and already organized.

>>516018632
Shut the fuck up then and stop acting like you are some kind of authority on the subject. KYS you little faggot.

Why there is no Official Civil War Enlisting thread on /pol?? It needs to be opened by a US flag.

Just write down your name, city, arms that you have.

Not allowed in the good side of the civil war: negroes, fake conservatives or homosexuals.

The right wins but to do so is handed over to center-right military generals and corporate republicans. It's not a maga victory.

>>516017212
Weapons help, but only insomuch as their are the logistics in place to supply them. Inferior weapons with superior supply lines trump superior weaponry in battle.

>>516018923
Again, the Bosniak's right.
Democrats cranked up the LGBT talk only because traditional powers and their donors were threatened by the actual Left.
Maybe you were there, maybe you weren't, but this is something you failed to understand.

>>516014288
>Yeah, all dem edumacated welfare recipients and niggers and illegals

Your smoothbrained slurs don't change the facts I posted.

>Don't forget, there are more well trained conservatives in blue states than your media lied to you.

I'm sure the scattered, overweight militia larpers will just run all over the FAR more numerous young, fit, well-led activists in the cities.

>You see, you're a temper tantrum throwing child, until that one day when the adults have had enough. Keep going, you're doing great

You.
Won't.
Do.
SHIT.

>>516009635
>better educated
Not in what actually matters, most of you faggots have liberal arts degrees
>better organized
Fair, but you'll start infighting when it comes to trannies vs feminists
>wealthier
Student loan debt, lmao
>concentration of forces (mostly live in dense urban areas)
Ah yes more people aka more nigger/spic gangs and homeless who definitely will not take advantage of the situation to establish control and kill your asses
>control the ports and major air lanes
So we just cut off your power and make it too dangerous for food and supplies to come your way.
All you'd have to do is destroy or block the runways at at least 3-4 major airports around the country and supplies would be hard to fly in.
As for boats, good luck with pirates
>will be favored by the international community
China and Russia will back the side going against the US Government because it means that they will gain favors with the new government if they win

>>516019416
>Muh drones
nice family you have there, nice dog or cat, nice house
Be a shame if someone destroyed all that

>>516018778
>One side has no moral qualms about shooting people
because 1 tranny freaked out and killed somebody? you are delusional.

>>516007729
?

explain

>>516010230
>they'd definitely send munitions and other resources to the side they want to win.
They'll arm both sides because they want maximum carnage

>>516019642
Because millions of leftists celebrated the killing.

>>516019806
Ok and jews/muslims were celebrating 9/11
Your point?

>>516017041
This was also blatantly obvious during the BLM riots and even before them when antifa was fighting in the streets while the enlightened ones were saying so much for the tolerant left (as if that somehow violates the lefts ideology)
> Further you had a right wing white father turning in his son for simply killing a zog propagandist
100% this

>>516019389
>traditional powers and their donors were threatened by the actual Left
LOL. That's what you think happened? No. The movement was overtaken by those corporations and turned into a faggot shitshow so that the tranny weirdos and fat faggots would focus on "muh gay rights" instead of "let's kill the bankers". Been that way ever since.

>>516019899
I have no clue what your point is.

>>516007729
fpbp

>>516018807
Seems like they do genuinely think that Right Wing aggression would stack far more bodies than Left Wing aggression, which is why you can’t even have a book club for White men without getting the feds on you

>>516020096
>LOL. That's what you think happened? No. The movement was overtaken by those corporations and turned into a faggot shitshow so that the tranny weirdos and fat faggots would focus on "muh gay rights" instead of "let's kill the bankers".
We're describing the exact same thing here.
See >>516015952

>>516017041
The Left are losers with no jobs, no families, and no fucking lives other than "muh cause"
They have nothing to lose compared to most people on the Right.
For the Right, you need to make the pain of inaction worse than the pain of action, and to get to that point, you'll need to not just take away sexy women from video games or ban anime or whatever, no, you need to have their children face starvation or have a real risk of having the cops knock on your door or just do a no knock 3am raid for posting something on social media.

>>516020113
The point is that just because some losers on the left are celebrating a guy's death that doesn't mean they are winning shit.

>>516018370
It's funny, I thought guns were super rare here (obviously are compared to US) but since I moved to the country to do forestry pretty much every rural working man I've met has a rifle for deer shooting and/or a shotgun for everything else
I feel a lot safer out here because obviously they're all white

>>516019755
I'd say China and Russia most definitely, they just want America broken. I would argue the EU, Japan, Korea, Mexico, and Canada in particular would be eager for America to not be wheezing death rattles after a pointless civil war because of those first two countries I mentioned. Basically I would guess you have the brunt of the EU funding whatever emerges as the "liberal" faction, and then China and Russia continuously moving to different factions to keep things destabilized as long as possible.

>>516020202
Left-wing aggression would topple existing power structures. Center-right aggression, however, is perfectly harmless. It's why they encourage liberals to act out.

>>516007729
That actually makes no sense.
If US has a real civil war, it will basically forfeit its geopolitical dominance.
US is the sole reason why Israel gets away with what it does and probably the very reason the state has even survived.

I know this is /pol/ but use some logic.

>>516017365
> What do these groups think the endgame is
Lefties in general don't have an endgame, they just have an immediate issue they want to deal with and that gives them an advantage. Of course some of them are dumb and like to daydream about some communist utopias but they'll generally identify their problem and try to deal with it immediately.
I don't think if they had absolute control that they would then go on to create complete degeneracy in the society or that they'd prosecute everyone right of them, the nutjobs like trannies and antifa etc are useful grunts and soldiers, sort of like in real, non meme wars where armies recruit mercenaries that are complete retards and savages just to do the destructive work for them.

>>516020469
Left Wingers only appear stronger because the corporations and power structure they hate support them.

>>516008525
Same place.

>>516020455
I would bet money that the EU would support the current govt on a heartbeat

there are no sides.
what sides are there.
except my sides every time threads like these appear.

>>516020595
Left-wingers don't even get political representation. They seem "strong" because they're actually informed and committed to their ideals.
>>516020581
I foresee a lot of gay flags waving over evacuated churches...

>>516010254
So where’s their support network they’re used to having? A bunch of infantrymen doing random missions with no actual directive or supply lines is peak loss conditions.

>>516020595
Corporations FEAR communists. They know they can bank on leftards because they're actually alk milquetoast center-left pansies.

>>516021063
I agree because I don't belong to those sides.

>>516021067
>They seem "strong" because they're actually informed and committed to their ideals.
They dont face punishment for their actions
If a right winger said that he wants to shoot a leftist politician, he would have antifa at his door, his employer would fire him, etc.
Left Wingers are coddled by corpos, police, government, etc.
Take that away from them and they are easily put to the sword.

>>516010143
>The side that generally lives in rural communities because cities are full of nogs that will eat the liberals if the food runs out.

>>516021127
Communists infiltrated those spaces.
Granted the right let them have it because "hurr men should only work their hands and not work in an office and gain institutional power haha"

>>516011874
Your so autistic is insane, the fact that your side will have groups killing each other daily is enough of a sole losing argument alone.
Everyday you will have groups turning into groups because of wrong pronouns or if their supplies should basedlatte or almond milk latte. Not mention the autistic retards you sheltering to your side will treat other ethnic groups as allies and half of them will be shot in the back of the head by looting blacks and Spanish gangs for their iphone and sneakers.

The other side knows it's them, they know who they are and that they will be against everybody else. Half your side will be self eradicated.

>>516020386
Bro I'm not even meming when I say this, if I was a bong that couldn't access a fire arm I'd unironically buy a mall ninja crossbow and obtain a rapier to defend my house. Those mall ninja crossbows will penetrate a coconut, imagine nigger rigging a broad head on one of those bolts and shooting someone in the chest with it.
Shit would probably be fatal and at least seriously wound someone.

>>516021310
And if a Leftist said he wanted to kill a Dem politician and their donors, he'd be dropped just as readily.
What makes you think they're immune?

>>516020513
>I know this is /pol/ but use some logic.
It's over
Things are so bad here I'm relying on twitter influencers to do the redpilling these days and they've just jumped the shark too

>>516021583
Only fucking now, meanwhile for the past 10 years they were given real free speech

>>516010365
When would we even get the chance to fight them in recent years? We don't live in the same areas. Libtards are in urban hellscapes most of the conservative right pretty much avoid. We're majority blue collar and usually were forced out of those cities by the white collar rise.

Trump was voted in by rural communities that are basically just isolated enclaves away from shithole cities.

>>516020383
>For the Right, you need to make the pain of inaction worse than the pain of actio
Then they will never act.

The main issue America has is the ZOG, it has occupied and subdued all political groups and turned them into parodies of itself. It's easy to see here first, both sides will accuse each other of being ziocucks, shills, terrorists, traitors etc
You don't understand how great it would be if your country wasn't controlled by a group of literal and figurative demons. You'd have liberals and conservatives sit around all day and talk like civilized people, they would come up with shit together, you'd have private property, tradition, worker's rights, healthcare, military, industry and public funding where it counts and most importantly, you'd have peace, which is in my opinion the most important thing a man can have.
Anyone looking forward to a civil war is retarded, most of you haven't seen what a war looks through your own eyes and it's easy to meme and talk about it but if you're gonna take away anything I'm saying, take away that you don't wanna live long enough to remember that shit happen in your town.

>>516007344 (OP)
The Left, because even if the right is smarter, stronger, and better armed they arent willing to do anything and will keep redrawing the line until theyre dead
Even mosquitos can kill you if you dont smack them

>>516007344 (OP)
At this point I'm pretty convinced leftists would be way better at it at least short term.
They have actual convictions and things they will kill/die for. Yeah there's plenty of weird freaky twinks just as there's a bunch of retarded useless landwhales on the right.

the rightwing has done nothing but larp abouti this very scenario for nearly 2 decades and are now tattling on leftoids while crying about being the victims.

>>516021636
Yes, because they're a total non-threat in electoral politics.

>>516021640
Hey now don't lump us white collars with them
I'm white collar and I fucking hate the left with a passion and I have no choice atm but to work in a city.

>>516021712
They fucking will, if you are this retarded enough to think not, you're stupid.

>>516021796
Aka an asset of the government

>>516021542
Already have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drQnaLXkifo

>>516011111
Controlling population centers is like warfare 101, anon.

>>516021847
>Aka an asset of the government
No, they're just excluded.

>>516008934
Urban is black. The white people in urban areas can't change a flat tire. If things get tought they move back to Indiana with their parents.

>>516021542
>if I was a bong that couldn't access a fire arm
I dunno why you guys think that's the case though. I'm not saying it gun laws are good but there's nothing stopping you owning a 22. semiauto, a large calibre bolt action, or a shotgun. It's very common in rural areas.

>>516021712
We won't, because all the crazy shit that happens in the US, is usually happening in places we gave up on generations ago.

If a civil war kicks off why would I want to go fight to save Chicago or St. Louis? I don't give a shit, I'd rather see them burn. I'd rather see the government burn. I don't care what they do.

well given that the left will kill you over words that hurt their feelings, and given that they are completely powerless and we are all still alive i would say op is de facto full of shit and coping.

>>516022136
People seem to forget you can make a gun out of some hardware pipe and basic tools. lol

Ammunition can be made from piss, basic garden fertilizers, rocks, and burned wood..

>>516022136
Can you own one in London and keep it in your house? I legitimately don't know.

>>516022141
This
Too many dipshits want to "save" the cities
I say let them burn or get depopulated

>>516007344 (OP)
The left will be the whiner

>>516020513
>>516021591
A civil war doesn’t mean america would lose its fleet or nukes

It Israël retains control over the chain of command for strategic American military assets they don’t lose anything

And can gain a lot by making america a fully Soviet slave state

>>516021918
Used to be, back when those were productive centers.
Not so now.

>>516010120
>not to mention canada will back up the left.
Heh. Who said fins don't have a sense of humor?

>>516022073
>If things get tought they move back to Indiana with their parents
lol so many white people in Chicago are from small towns in Indiana.

>I'm sure it'll be a picnic
>over by Christmas

>>516022340
It isn't fucking 1970. The Soviets are gone, boomer.

Chinese drone manufacturers will be the only winner

>>516022136
I have a .22 but I dunno I feel like a bolt is going to stop someone better than a bb on steroids
I'm probably wrong but popping squirrels doesn't make it feel very destructive

>>516010318
Homophones are hard

>>516019664

>explain?

Pic related is a good start

>>516022340
Frog anon gets it.

>>516022340
If the left/right fought, it would just be a scrimmage between two factions of the same side. They are both dimwitted idealists who follow the politics jews establish for them. They are too stupid to see that they are two sides of the same coin.

If either side "wins" nothing changes from a racial perspective. Jews retain control. White america is over.

>>516022259
Yes, of course. You need to show the police that you have a secure place to store it though like a gun locker. They also might quiz you on what you're wanting it for, in which case you say something like you go hunting in the country at weekends or are a member of a rifle club. Saying something like self defense is a no-no, but it's perfectly achievable. Not many people are interested in owning a gun compared to in the US though.

>>516007344 (OP)

idk it’s almost been a week and Nothing Happened so i think the only people shooting will win lol

>>516007344 (OP)
The left. Rightoids tending farms in the interior are already starving and asking trump for gibs after China(?) pulled out of buying like $5B with of basedbeans and the war hasn't even started. At best they can hope some cities on the Gulf of Mexico stay open, otherwise the leftwing coastal cities are going to strangle them outright.

>>516022737
>They also might quiz you on what you're wanting it for
What if you respond "for Lexington"?

>>516022588
What scenario are you thinking of exactly where you'd need a gun for defense? In most cases a shotgun makes most sense from the options available here.

>>516007344 (OP)
The American left would absolutely annihilate the American right as they have vast networks permeating every facet of society and already have their people inside all the institutions, corporations and organizations of any any importance.

I don’t say this with any glee or joy. For all my life I dreamed of the day American patriots would rise up to restore constitutional order. But they’ve absolutely slept at the wheel and lived in delusion and fantasy while their opponents built impregnable positions of power.

It drives me absolutely crazy that retards here think there will be some day when all their people will walk out the front door (gun in hand) with ZERO contacts, organization, plan, communication, etc and just flawlessly wing it against all the generationally entrenched power of the establishment. The last time they tried that was Jan. 6th. And it was the most horrendous shit-show I’ve ever seen.

>>516022885
Yeah the more I watch this, the more it looks like the shot came from the left (his right)

>>516022974
Handguns are always king in real-life self-defense scenarios. Shotguns are best for home defense, and rifles are for SHTF.

>>516011111
Checked, and correct.
>”Why haven’t our daily rations arrived?”
>city burns to the ground

>>516022974
I just say because you mentioned .22
I haven't needed to get a shotgun yet so I don't have one around, though the estate I'm on does do bird shooting so I'll probably have one eventually

>>516007729
Americans are so fucking stupid.
>durr le left or le right
How about you look up at the billionaires and the jews who are pissing all over you? Look at the true enemies instead of screeching at each other you motherfuckers

>>516015262
>only republicans work meme

>>516019806

like you retards weren’t clowning on George Floyd, digital dementia has you faggots in a death spiral I highly recommend suicide

Last year, I moved from a rural area in Colorado that was very conservative. Everyone owned guns, hunted, went target shooting, camped etc. A lot of people had each other's backs. I've had neighbors that owned tractors and they would go dig other neighbors driveways after a huge snow etc.

I moved to downtown Silicon Valley where it's 20% white, lawless, and hardly any community aside from a church group that feeds the homeless at Saint John Park once in a while. These people would loot all the food from stores and be starving in a week, turn on each other, and set fire to everything.

The left and city people in general do not stand a chance. Good thing I still own that property in CO and can fly back at any time.

>>516023022
>The American left would absolutely annihilate the American right as they have vast networks permeating every facet of society
Are you referring to the HR lady? During a civil war, she might not have so much power.

>>516023093
Yeah, that's why I said options available here. Pistols were banned in the 90's, other than very exceptional circumstances.

>>516021787
Don't forget we had a taste of what they were capable of with jan 6 and all they did was calmly follow carpeted walkways while inside the capitol and leave after trump told them to go home lol. Oh and also one of them got Kirk'd and a bunch more got ass raped by Tyrone in prison KEK. The right is the definition of no bite, the best they can do is dox which conveniently doesn't require them to leave their room lol.

>>516023160
>CO
my condolences, it's such a pretty state but Denver and Boulder decided that they need to outdo LA and SF in terms of being such antigun shitholes

>>516023022
>The last time they tried that was Jan. 6th.
Jan 6th was an unarmed protest, my dude.

>>516023262
So why were you faggots so spooked by it if it was a nothingburger?
It lives rent free with the Left

>>516023274
Yeah Denver and Boulder are shit. My house is in the eastern plains about 1.5 hours outside of Denver and about 45 from from the Springs.

>>516009635
The right are combat veterans as well as many active members of the military. Including spooks that operate with no oversight like delta force etc.

>>516022588
A 22 will absolutely end someone

>>516022588
shot placement is your friend, 22lr through the eyeball will fuck up/ end anyone's day

>>516023104
A .22 is all the gun you need 90% of the time. Cheap to shoot, easy to handle, much stray bullets are far less dangerous

>>516010695
This is the only way to fix society. The privileged few shall fear the many who has enough.

>>516023124
Sadly you are so right.

>>516023364
>You faggots
The only people "scared" were demokkkrats that used it as ammunition to get back at le Cheeto man. Actual leftist were having a field day watching dumb rednecks get free ass resizings in jail.

>>516007729
fpbp

>>516017041
Or you could be pacifist and outbreed the left like the Amish.

The left isn’t having kids if they’re white.

Also if there’s a fertility crisis in the offspring of Americans who took the Covid shot (signal would begin to show up in about 15 years from now), the left absolutely screwed themselves.

They didn’t inoculate the majority of the world population with mRNA mystery shots to protect anyone…..some long term effect is gonna rear its ugly head down the road.

>>516022469
>sees the word soviet
>mind goes blank and starts seething to the extent he completely misses what was said
Not a boomer, no excuse retard.
>>516023364
No one with common sense was scared of the riot at the nursing home, it was just convenient political capital to spend for years that the party preaching rule of law will actively break it to plant their god-king.
Like what the kikes in power are doing with Kirk who was notoriously not that popular for his staunch zionist beliefs but funded almost entirely through "donations"

>>516023645
>through the eyeball
That's what I mean though, can't guarantee an accurate shot in some corner scuffle or as he rushes down the corridor

>>516022354
nice argument. in reality you are fucked if you go to civil war. your movement is not nearly too big and this whole shooting thing lost you a tons of youth because they know kikes are behind it

>>516023364
>It lives rent free with the Left
I'm still confused by idiots comparing it to an insurrection. How is walking around one (1) government building without a chaperone able to completely conquer a country and usurp all three branches of government? It's like the idiots spouting off about it think that a casual stroll is all you need to completely take over. Like that's how little they know about the government.

>>516023022
>when all their people will walk out the front door (gun in hand) with ZERO contacts, organization, plan, communication
source?

>>516007729
/thread

>>516023477
Sucks, because as much as I love Florida I really would love to have land in a Rocky Mountain state

>>516007344 (OP)
Test

>>516023598
>>516023645
>>516023681

>>516023022
Get real. The right would starve the left to death and thats a fact. Youre talking about people who still know how to live off the land in some areas vs people who cant live without wifi.

>>516023804
>signal would begin to show up in about 15 years from now
Damn we have to wait that long for happenings now? Used to be two weeks.

>>516023134
I didn't say that and if you think I did, you are retarded. All I did was google it. Something you can do yourself.

Serious question, do any of you have any clue now unstable our grid is or how unwilling our soldiers would be to kill their own families?
Power and supply chain will be cut to cities within 2 days of conflict and the military will be the last remaining organization with regular contact. I'll let you figure out what happens after that.

>>516007344 (OP)
the right, but the left could win without firing a single shot because the right are such deluded cowards

>>516024081
>Serious question, do any of you have any clue now unstable our grid is
Used to be worse, but it's good to have a backup plan ready.

>>516023992
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Z5azEPWk&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD
Go get shot by a 22 if it doesn't do anything you tacticool larper

>>516011455
Most of those 50 states are all very dependent on the Fed and interconnectivity with other states to survive. None of the 50 states are truly self-sufficient anymore and even if they were, Burgers won't go back to living on Corn Beef Hash for every meal.

>>516020513
>If US has a real civil war
Define "real civil war"
If you mean two opposing forces squaring off in open field on a nice sunny day, then NO that is not realistic.
If you consider we have been invaded by between 50-70 million foreign invaders aided and abetted by these people
Food supply poisoned. Medicines offshored to overtly hostile nations by these people
Including entire gangs, the cartels, entire prison and mental institution populations
Including the special operations people from every enemy nation the US has
Including the Muj LARPing as Christians - sporting Christian ink and iconography in order to infiltrate more effectively
Including them shooting and stabbing us in broad daylight
These people engaging in lawfare and institutionalized open discrimination against Whites
Then yes, we are in a civil war and have been for some time

>>516024081
The cutting of power lines or bullets into transformers can be fixed within hours, days if you bring down a tower, and IF a political event kicked off in the USA they'd fortify important ones.
The only people who are going to eat shit are rural citizens after a few weeks.

Last I checked no one's going to work with the side that bombed the exposed gas lines causing Grandma to freeze to death in winter or poisoned the water treatment plants.

>>516007344 (OP)
>which side is more prepared for civil war?
The Right, absolutely without a doubt, not even close.

I am sure the Left has hundreds of thousands of 200IQ individuals with 5000hrs of AI prompt creation, read all of the best most faggiest commie philosophers, and have streamed Arma 3 with 10,000 viewers and never died once, etc, etc.

The Right has people that go out to the wilderness and wipe their butts with leaves, and shoot shit for fun; and people that actually work with their hands and can fix things.

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Leftists are primarily women, niggers, and mentally ill people that think they are important because they read obscure commie jew faggots and can debate shit that doesnt matter. These are not people that are going to perform well when it comes to having to actually do any type of fighting. The Right will be less cohesive, and outnumbered in many cases, but will have more people that are effective at producing high K:D ratios, and are overall more resilient both mentally and physically. The Left is also absolutely notorious for devolving into catastrophic infighting constantly about everything, whereas the Right is more "hang together, or we hang separately" type of mindset which will allow various disparate groups to work together. The Left will be busy purity testing eachother, and beefing between groups because one leader's wife is a TERF that said 'transphobic' things blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Lefties are always arguing about some bullshit that nobody else even understands.

>>516023885
Oh, you were serious.
Canada's military is effectively non-existent, buddy.
They've relied almost entirely on our navy and Air Force for the past 100 years.
You understand so little about our nation's relationship.

>>516023364
Mostly because of what you were trying to do. The drunk nigger breaking into the bank and getting arrested is still hated even though he gets caught by the cops immediately.

>>516024508
>The cutting of power lines or bullets into transformers can be fixed within hours
Current transformer shortage. Don't be so sure. Lead time is several months.

>>516023134
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/04/new-republican-party-working-class-coalition-00122822
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/blue-collar-voters-trending-from-democratic-to-republican-101356613680
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-rapidly-becoming-blue-collar-party-here-s-what-means-n1258468
https://youtu.be/8UV_hRnd1u4

>>516024508
>they'd fortify important ones.
Who's they?
Who's protecting them?
The military I just mentioned?

>causing Grandma to freeze to death in winter
Sorry but Grandma isn't the one that's going to be fighting.

>>516007344 (OP)
Military combat shit aside the "right" is more hands on and resourceful than the "left". Think farmers, construction guys, mechanics, truckers, etc. VS teachers, hr dykes, desk jockeys, lgbtbbqwtf faggots, etc.

I'd knew which side to put my money on.

>>516007344 (OP)

There is not going to be a civil war faggot. The second you all make to much trouble, they are going to ship you to die in a filthy trench in China, Ukraine or Iran. That is what they always do when the surplus men cause trouble.

The Russians are already doing it and the Chinks and the Iranians need it badly, because there economies are going to shit and the rubs are starting to make noise about it.

The elites from the West and East will see the mutual benefit and will send you all to the meat grinder. The low IQ, mentally ill and disable first, to improve the species. Google "Project 100,000". They literally did Forrest Gump based on it. They are going to white wash your deaths exactly the same, with a cute movie about it and I will eat popcorn watching it down here far from all the trouble, like we did the last 2 world wars.

>>516021430
>Is also the side that will never stop supplying them with food

>>516024291
>wear amazon-bought body armor
>just a thin layer
>some clown decides to bet his life on 150-200 ft/lbs of energy

>>516009635
You just described the Republic of Afghanistan.

>>516024508
>supply chain
>costs
>raw materials
Think the long game, dipshit

>>516007344 (OP)
Ill reiterate, its the Left.
Even if the right is stronger, smarter, and better armed, the Left is absolutely more willing
>The side that shoots
>The side that complains
Its that simple
The right wing generally just jerks off to the idea of action

>>516024407
They don't have to be self-sufficient. It's not likely to escalate, given how weak individual state loyalties are for most Americans.
They'll sign agreements or put together interstate compacts for themselves quickly enough.

>>516025045
Also feel free to prove me wrong centre right cuckold faggots

>>516025045
>the Left is absolutely more willing
Willing to virtue signal.
How does that help? Does marching with flags and signs make food grow?

>>516024418
If enough people went taliban, all we would have to do is maintain civilian identities most of the time and attack commercial shipments and weapons factories while avoiding firefights and hanging out in places the rich would be too scared to bomb since it would make them less rich.
(Like when we are forced to group up, doing so inside expensive facilities and such.) And force them to firefight.
The taliban did it with much dumber goat fuckers with 70iq and missiles being launched at them from other countries that they couldn't disrupt.

>>516025257
The right doesn’t fucking grow food either. Your food is grown by mega corps who will sell you out if you get uppity.

>>516024508
Not with the US military in turmoil they can't. We are incredibly reliant on international trade and international trade is incredibly reliant on the pax americana. Covid restrictions were enough to cause global supply chain issues. What do you think civil war in the US is going to do. You're not going to get shit. If you can fix it yourself and make something work you're pretty well fucked. And where do you think most linemen and electricians fall on the poltical spectrum anyway?

>>516025013
>conviction
>morale
>organization
Think "war", dipshit.

>>516024553
Really meme flag?
What exactly is the plan?
>Well, the right will have a better K:D and...
Really? What does that look like?
Where's the Enemy? What's your line of departure? Where's the OP order? Where's your support?
Food water medical support triage facilities sanitation logistical support vehicles...
How many guys can you count on - 100% - who will drop everything and support you?
All the shit you take for granted - that giant line of individuals supporting combat arms - it's not going to BE there.
You going to take your piddly 1000 rounds of 5.56 and gucci pristine uncamo'd AR out in the street and do what, exactly?
You don't have a fuckin plan. There IS no plan.
The Left has a plan. They've been acting on that plan for at least 10 years now, if not 20.
Wishcasting shit into being simply by stating it is retarded.
Hope isn't a fuckin plan.
Having a plan is a plan.
And another one for when the first plan goes to shit...
I ain't trying to be a bucket of water or a wet blanket.
But have a bit more than hand-wavium to fall back on.

>>516025510
>Conviction
I
>Morale
Shot
>Organization
Your family

>>516025439
>Your food is grown by mega corps who will sell you out if you get uppity.
A backup water supply is needed because my water can be shut off, but I'm not useless like the people you seem to associate with. You seriously don't know any gardeners? Ever try meeting people in general?

>>516025522
>>You don't have a fuckin plan. There IS no plan.
>Wishcasting shit into being simply by stating it is retarded.
the irony is almost is almost too much for me

>>516007344 (OP)
the only side ready for what is coming is the side which sees the synagogue of satan as the enemy and not fellow white men.

>>516025756
Well, that covers two bases.
The last is organization, and leftists seem to have little trouble there.

>>516025758
>the left doesn’t garden
I see we’re just going full retard. That freedom garden you’re starting will not supply your infantry.

>>516007729
>In a US civil war between the left and right, Israel would be the winner.
/thread
the jews want a jewish harvest aka war
just like jewcraine.
russians vs russians.

>>516024553
How does wiping your ass with leaves win a civil war?
As >>516023022 points out the rightwing has near 0 lasting institutional power and lacks actual leadership.
You can shoot up a few walmarts but you're simply committing terrorism with no actual tangible goals.
>>516024824
>who's they
The US government. The people being paid to do the job. The ZOG forces they call police that already lavish at cracking your fucking skull over a speeding ticket.
>the moment a civil war kicks off the military will join in the slaughtering of civilians and destruction of infrastructure because they're le right wing chud
The military might not fire on civilians if they're asked (lol you've never met an infantryman) but they can stand around looking pretty.
Besides, fortifications /=/ military. The police can patrol more, they can invest in building concrete walls instead of relying on chainlink fencing thats intended to protect you rather than the equipment.
Rural people will be screwed because life blood of the country is more important than cow town USA and things will take longer to get up and running again if you're actively fucking up parts of the country.

>Sorry but Grandma isn't the one that's going to be fighting.
Yeah no shit you painfully retarded fuck. It's insanely bad optics when your entire civil war strategy is to commit acts of terror that have no tangible goals but making the average citizens life suffering.

You need support from the population for an insurgency to work, the IRA could store things in peoples basements and come and go from their homes not because they made their lives a living hell, but because they were fighting for what the average citizen believed in.
>>516025489
The military has nothing to do with this. There
>>516025013
>le heckin terrorism with nothing else will win the war
You people are so insanely arrogant and stupid, you've seen these things talked about for decades but you have no comprehension of what they mean.

>>516024894
If that's your argument then you can rule out handguns altogether because you can buy kevlar soft for like $200, but then I can say I'll just drop $300-400 and buy steel plates and your stupid argument turns into AP rounds required.
So it's a stupid argument, even with a soft vest a 22 round to the face will likely kill or disable you.

>>516025522
>The Left has a plan. They've been acting on that plan for at least 10 years now, if not 20.
>The plan is have somebody else who isn't them, save them. The end. That's the plan.
So good that they have a plan

>>516007344 (OP)

The main characteristic of the human terrain to take into account is that most of the blue population lives in huge cities, while most of the red population lives in the sticks.

Those cities can't feed themselves.

The farmers that grow the food, the companies that process it and the truckers who deliver it are republicans. As soon as real civil war kicks off the big blue cities will starve. Republicans also control the energy industry. So no gasoline or anything else for the blue cities.

And once the civil war starts the dollar will flat-line, so these blue cities will not be able to buy the food from foreign countries instead.

Also most of the police in big blue cities are republicans who live in the suburbs. Right now NY has one of the largest armed forces in the world, but as soon as the civil war starts they all go home.

So first phase of the civil war the big blue cities descend into chaos as food and all other products are gone and so are the police.

>>516007344 (OP)
>Hypothetically speaking, which side is more prepared for civil war?
The immense scale of suffering will indicate that neither side thrives. Most people are under three days to starvation.

>>516023992
Kys moron

>>516009635
The left's "better educated" will be doing the "better organizing", and using their "wealth", to keep those "concentrated forces" (niggers) from eating them.
Everything else is bullshit. Your "major air lanes" mean fuck all when the planes cannot land or take off and the support crews have fucked off for the hills, and the "international communit" is sending dildos and lube to support your transition surgery.

>>516025439
>Your food is grown by mega corps who will sell you out if you get uppity
You understand that crops are completely unprotected, right?
What mega mega corps give to the cities is effectively the surplus. Supply chain for that would be completely unmaintainable in civil conflict.

>>516025409
Have you read War of the Flea?
Were you in the Balkans - anywhere near it - in the 90's?
It's going to be fucking ugly.
We're already seeing assassinations of political moderates who have done nothing but advocate for peaceful discourse by these fucking people
We're seeing attempted assassinations of police officers and federals by these fucking people.
it's the same goddamned script - every fucking time.
Next up: night letters - cop gets a white envelope in his mailbox with some pics of his wife and kids at their school with a note that says "Take next week off and get out of town"
Then comes bushwhacking. Kidnappings. Arson. Armed checkpoints by factions.
Think "Bleeding Kansas" and the Appalachians in and around the Tug River.
US military will be deployed to the cities to keep the lid on.
They won't go into the hinterland unless in force and they won't be staying.
That's Indian Country.
You're on your own. You always were.

>>516025964
>I see we’re just going full retard. That freedom garden you’re starting will not supply your infantry.
Why should it? Much like how early militias didn't need daddy government to supply arms, it's ideal to not be a burden when it comes to food. You know, or guns. Also nice to have a few extra spam cans of ammo just for giggles.

Stuff you should also have but obviously don't.

>>516026036
As I said, shotguns for home defense.
Most people on the street just aren't wearing bullet-resistant clothing, and you won't be able to pull out a shotgun if you're attacked on the street, so handguns are fine there.

>>516026009
>How does wiping your ass with leaves win a civil war?
He's likely assuming real life works like a Eugen game where two 10-man squads in a forest can deny enemies the ability to move their infantry around.

>>516026009
>It's insanely bad optics when your entire civil war strategy is to commit acts of terror
i can't believe you just actually typed those words and believed them lmao

>>516026009
>The US government. The people being paid to do the job.
For everything you typed, you absolutely don't get it.
The military themselves would be the ones cutting that power and shutting down communication.
Any civil war would immediately turn into a military coup.

>>516026009
Go ahead and shoot American citizens, retard
The Chinese and Russians would send crates of AKs and whatever the Chinese use
Hell, they would probably throw in some old SKS'es too since they are aware of how common 7.62x39 is in America

>>516026009
>civil war
>military has nothing to do with it
I appreciate you making it clear so immediately that i may as well try having a conversation with a cucumber.

If we're talking about a scenario where everybody is in war and without nothing to lose, with organized militias etc, then the right is going to win for sure. People with guns, experience, veterans are pretty much all on their side. But USA right now seems to be going more toward a years of lead scenario, meaning terrorism, targeted high-profile killing etc, and in this case the left got much more will than the right.

The left is composed by a lot of mentally ill people, brainwashed into thinking they are in danger, hostages of the evil natzees etc (most of leftist are not leftist because the ideology reasonate with them, but just because they are drones brainwashed by the media). This produces a lot of nutjobs and loose cannons taking action.

The right instead is mostly an internet ideology, a subculture almost, filled by influencers and larpers who roleplay as insane death-squaderino warriors, but its mostly retards on X posting cringe memes.
The average right winger, the redneck or the 2 digit iq veteran do not want to risk what they have right now, but as I said if they are forced to fight, then they will have to and it will make a difference.

In conclusion: two retards fighting.

>>516026097
>1st phase of the civil war
>corporations completely forget property rights
>states compel them to go along with a strategy intended to starve their customers out
>the relatively defenseless terrain remains unoccupied because leftists would never do a thing like go out and secure supplies from red-leaning counties in red/blue states

>blues have nearly all the resources, infrastructure, industry, manpower
>blues have immediate local advantages in manpower and materiel
>blues have benefit of interior lines
>would take months or even years for reds to concentrate forces sufficiently
we already had this thread

As is currently, the actors will not be just left and right. You'll have interest that would supply either of them and they'll bet on the one that can win. The left will be out of their depth the moment the right is given the go. Problem would be uppity opportunistic foreign powers.

>inb4 (You)s with "let me tell you about your country"

>>516026931
>The right instead is mostly an internet ideology
This is the most baffling thing I think I've ever read on this site, but I also just realized while typing this that your only exposure to the right is through the Internet.

>>516027089
>blues have nearly all the resources, infrastructure, industry, manpower
Doubt.jpg

>>516027181
>your only exposure to the right is through the Internet
that applies to a lot of lefties in the thread too

>>516007344 (OP)
the right.

left are in cities, you destroy the roads and they starve to death within weeks.
caltrop the area around the roads then use the abandoned vehicles as walls.
things get complicated if the military gets involved.

>>516027089
Every US city is one small disaster away from total collapse, my dude.
They are intentionally built without any sustainability.

>>516009635
That won't happen.
As the US descends into civil war!
Nations like Russia, China, Israel etc will carve up the US and no one is going to back lgbt.

>>516011315
>Wasted digits. Urban warfare is a hellhole for the attacking side
And why would anyone attack them? To take their food? You just close the roads and sit back while they eat each other.

>>516007344 (OP)
All chuds are going to die.

>>516027089
pic related

>>516026276
All those people in the cities are just going to sit there and let you do this in an open conflict? They’re just going to sit there like good boys and let you starve them?
lol

>>516008525
You mean China. America would be better off with trying to play nice with Russia

>>516027513
jews want a brother war.
there would be no chuds "hard right" or commies if the jews werent creating them on purpose to have a harvest.

>>516025522
Posts like yours illustrate my point perfectly. You failed the homework assignment, the question is "who is more prepared". The person that writes out a 10,000 word detailed plan on 'triage facilities, sanitation, and logistical support vehicles' is NOT the most prepared. The people that spent their entire lives going off grid for fun, giving praise to God, and practicing shooting are the ones that are better prepared.

When your kitted out convoy of niggers and 90lb purple hair faggots comes through the wrong place they are going to get ambushed by a handful of good ol boys and their sons and they are going to just kill them and take all their shit.

I keep hearing all this talk about the Left and how they marched through the institutions, etc, but if you look at how severely the military recruitment fell off under Biden and how distrustful people are of institutions; I think its pretty fair to say that most of the prep work the Left has been doing wont really amount to shit in the end.

>>516027089
And you were wrong there, as well.

>>516026304
The army absolutely requires food to run, especially with the populations you’re dealing with. The continental army also had vast amount of arms supplied by France.
Who the fuck is going to be the right’s France aside from Israel?

>>516027768
nice.

>>516027660
>All those people in the cities are just going to sit there and let you do this in an open conflict?
Yes. We've seen this happen time and time again when natural disaster strikes. Their communities attack each other first. You do NOT want to be in cities when supply chains are disrupted. It's a death sentence.

>>516025522
Faggots like antifa are organised sure.
But I doubt they have any real long term plans that take into account a civil conflict and how they'd take power in a scenario like that.

>>516028039
>natural disasters with a unified country are the same as open war
Fuck off, you clown. Also your North Carolina niggers sure did whine and cry that Biden wasn’t helping them enough, and that was for fucking months.
Where’s their “get er dun!” spirit?

>>516027726
>You failed the homework assignment, the question is "who is more prepared".
Your hubris has defeated you. That, and your wishcasting.
Hope isn't a plan.
I asked you legitimate, difficult questions that deserve to be addressed
Because if you don't address them, then you are going to fail and you are going to get a lot of people killed who make the mistake of listening to you
Your response was to finger wag and try to scold me.
Badgering me like a middle aged post-menopausal housewife instead of addressing these issues isn't fucking productive
Being productive is productive.
You've made it clear you're on the
>"everything is fine, go back to sleep, we got this, two more weeks - paralyze them into inactivity, Operation Hope"
side of things.

>>516026610
But it's true you retarded fuck, if you take away my power, water, and heating during winter why the ever loving fuck would I side with you?
>>516026691
No, I do get it, I just question your gay little fantasy.
>>516026833
In this case US already is shooting citizens every day retard, the police are frequently driving their heel into your face violating your rights but none of you niggers rise up against them.
>The Chinese and Russians would send crates of AKs and whatever the Chinese use
There are more firearms in civilian hands in the US than firearms that exist in every other country in the world combined you fucking dunce.
>>516026912
Yeah, sorry, too many people to reply to at once, character limit hit and I didn't actually cut the entire comment as intended because what I wrote up wasn't as relevant as what was posted above it, hence the "There-"
The military has nothing to do with keeping shit up and running alone, there would be more than enough loyalists in a nation of 350million to keep things running even if the rightwing larps as being all tradesmen, all factory/dock/ (funny that all of the unions keep supporting democrats and none of them attempt to end this though)
There's more than enough examples of countries in relatively recent history that have managed to stay mostly functional during civil unrest and it took a great many years of US intervention to topple.

But that's all besides the point, this thread is full of people larping that a civil war will be like the 1800's with fine lines and not just uneducated mouthbreathers randomly attacking things and thinking it furthers the cause as if it's Just Cause title.

>>516027917
>The army absolutely requires food to run
less when the individuals bring their own
pretty foreign concept for you.

>>516028302
>a unified country
What's unified?
Who's unified?
You seriously expect jaykwan and lateesha to cooperate with you and sing kumbaya when the power goes out? That when they're talking about getting whitey, you're gonna be exempt?

>>516028079
Bro, if you think every opportunist enemy we have isn't salivating at the thought...
I can imagine a scenario where shit goes down and China sends a fuckin fleet to Southern California to "aid the suffering people there"
Same with the fuckin spics in the Southwest
The Russians will undoubtedly want to have a hand involved as well...

>>516028512
And a lot of those firearms are combloc guns in which the owners have done a lot of shooting with
So the Chinks and Russkies dont have to waste money training people how to use them and can just send crates of ammo, which is the real bottleneck, dumbass

>>516014438
Man i wish there was some sort of boomer filter, every US flag cringe is killing me past few days

>>516028512
>I just question your gay little fantasy.
There's nothing to question.
The US military would force cities into cooperation long entire any foreign entities could intervene. The idea they could do this with any rural area is logistically impossible.

>>516026338
Kevlar soft will stop a shotgun too

>>516028512
>if you take away my power, water, and heating during winter
those are the first targets during ANY war

>>516007344 (OP)
Leftists would be more physically resilient because they're more used to living in poverty and doing low skill jobs which are, as is known to anybody who ever worked in a restaurant or a factory, very physically demanding. Rightoids who do jew daycare and managerial jobs would very quickly break down mentally from blisters and pain from physical exertion.

>>516009635
>says nothing about resources
>will have no farmland or refineries.
>forces will be cities in an island of red scattered across 3000 miles.
Yea no libs get wrecked. The right will do what Israel has done and that’s blow up their utilities and keep any humanitarian aid from getting in and letting them starve. Keep in mind the geography of the us. The Rockies in the west and the Appalachia in the east. It vastly favors the reds in this situation. Never mind the inevitable purges when the south sends 30 million blacks as refugees and biological weapons.

>>516028895
have you tried leaving the American internet? fucking shitskin

>>516029514
>because they're more used to living in poverty
Living off food stamps is not a survival strategy

>>516026338
>>516029444
But yes, I would prefer a shotgun over a 22 if given the choice, your argument is just dumb

>>516029768
But being used to food scarcity is an advantage in survival situations. Rightoids would have a mental breakdown over not being able to summon a burger in 30 minutes through a phone app.

>>516028786
>And a lot of those firearms are combloc guns in which the owners have done a lot of shooting with
Fucking what? I guess if you're retarded and think having crates of beaten to shit mosins and SKS's is the same as a functional modern firearm that can actually hit what you're aiming at, or if you seriously think tons of people own AK's which are 3x as expensive as the average AR.
>ammunition is the real bottleneck
>in a nation with more guns than every other nation combined ammunition isn't just as plentiful
>>516029126
>The US military would force cities into cooperation
Why the fuck would the US mil, an arm of the government, need to enforce its beliefs on cities which are already government powerhouses to remain loyal? Do you have any idea how they vote?
What would Chicago get from sabotaging its entire industry?
>The idea they could do this with any rural area is logistically impossible.
Yes, that's the entire fucking point! If you're out there committing terrorism it's significantly more difficult to actually repair the damage you people are doing pissing off the locals even more.
>>516029493
Yes, and that typically upsets the local populace which you kind of need to win the war.
There's a reason the US gets chased out of every nation they enter; no one is going to be welcoming the liberators who ensured the county loses a third of its population to exposure.

>>516029444
It won't dissipate the force of a 12 gauge. You'll be knocked out with damaged organs just from the first hit.

>>516029928
>being used to food scarcity
Does this thing look like it is remotely used to scarcity?

>>516030015
>Do you have any idea how they vote?
Voting?
Who said anything about voting?
We're talking about a military coup.

>>516030200
Another year under Trump and she'll have no choice but to learn.

>>516030330
God willing.

>urban survival skills
>knowing layouts like the back of their hand
>extremely used to mental and physical hardship
I don't think people should underestimate how dangerous armed homeless people could be.

>>516030015
>Yes, and that typically upsets the local populace which you kind of need to win the war.
you don't seem to understand what a civil war is

>>516030200
Does this thing look like it is remotely used to insurgent ops?
Your strawman is unbelievably stupid, man.
>>516030312
Gee, what could a voting block represent when it comes to peoples beliefs.
Real fucking brain twister that, yeah?

>>516030625
You're right, my understanding of a civil war is woefully lacking compared to the average /pol/ understanding which is the purge.

>>516009635
>adjacent to gangs, rowdy immigrants
>dependent on mass transit
>largely unarmed
>fodder

>>516030649
>Your strawman is unbelievably stupid, man.
It really isn't because you don't actually understand what poverty looks like if you think being poor in the US makes you ready for wartime scarcity.

>>516030778
>You're right
indeed

Another thing that could happen is that working class MAGAs operating alongside nepo MAGAs could very easily get so pissed off with having to carry them and defect out of resentment, so the militias would have to be segregated which could cause logistical problems.

>>516030873
No, I'm fairly certain you don't understand what poverty looks like.
You're imagining an emaciated hobo in your head instead of the tens of millions of workers that are on federal aid because the multinational corporations pay them just high enough that they don't quit but just low enough they qualify for government assistance.

>>516030649
>Gee, what could a voting block represent when it comes to peoples beliefs.
I'm just explaining how things will go down if civil war breaks out.
Military immediately makes a coup and forces all cities to cooperate.
There's your outcome, the entire government becomes right wing dictatorship in less than a week.

>>516030620
>I don't think people should underestimate how dangerous armed homeless people could be.
Worth pointing out that you wouldn't be able to buy, lend, or lease their loyalty. They aren't going to like either side, and they won't become your murder slave just because you hand them a gun and a bunch of words.

>>516031299
>You're imagining an emaciated hobo in your head instead of the tens of millions of workers that are on federal aid
Yeah, I know exactly what they look like.
And most of them would either turn on you or go back to their own countries the moment any real hardship breaks out.