Thread 516037694

Why didn't Jesus save Kirk?

He used up all his miracle juice last year redirecting the bullet meant for Trump. This was the safer timeline.

God works in mysterious ways
just like how he let a firefighter die over trump
or how his churches keep getting bombed

He did unironically

god sacrificed charlie so the rest of us may be saved

He died ironically.

>>516037694 (OP)
because we failed Him and we dont deserve it

>>516038143
Didn't save school shooter victims.

>>516038143
How so?

>>516037694 (OP)
God loved the shooter more

>>516038059
Why would Jesus 'save' him in that manner?

>>516038059
What did Jesus save him from?

>>516038143
How did his death save us? and from what

>>516037694 (OP)
Because he couldn't stop thinking about trannies.
God is all knowing (if he existed, which he doesn't).

>>516038209
Who are we? How did we fail?

What if Jesus didn't save him because Jesus is not real?

God must think that Charlie wasn't a big enough supporter of Israel obviously.

>>516037694 (OP)
muh mysterious ways
muh free will
muh original sin

>>516039763
This, Jesus would have saved him, but he didn't pray enough. Remember to pray tonight and donate 3000 shekels to Israel or you'll go to hell.

>>516038143
>god

>>516037694 (OP)
why didnt he save that Ukrainian girl on the train?
why doesnt he save everyone?
probably because either god doesnt exist or doesnt care.
This is why so many hard right christ cucks are working with conservative Zionist kikes to not only take over the nationalist movement but to bring forth Armageddon in a self fulfilling prophecy move with Gaza.

>>516038591
He saved him from debating hasan and being exposed as a fraud, Now he will be remembered forever as a martyr.

Because He's good.

>>516037694 (OP)
Saving kids from all the school shootings Kirk thought was worth the price of freedom used up too much Jesus mana

God killed Charlie Kuck. Satan saved Trump and killed a fireman instead.

>>516038143
It's incredible how the christ cucks can rationalize every bad thing that happens to them to maintain their faith.

>>516038591
Damnation for starters

why do brown people hate god so much?

>>516040379
Show your flag memeflag
Only shitskins and kikes hate Jesus and Christianity

>>516037694 (OP)
>>516040379
>unconditional love with conditions
Hell (Gehenna/Sheoul/Hades) is temporary. It's for purification (Tikkun). According to Kabbalah, most people only stay for 12 months. And there's layers of it. Read the part where it said "death and hell will also be thrown into the lake of fire". Origen taught that even Satan would be restored. Really, Hell being eternal is a later Catholic belief (Augustinian).
>muh freewill argument
Jeremiah 29:11 and Romans 8:28 would beg to differ. Nothing "random" exists. Everything happens for a reason.
>humanity descended from one man and one woman
Who are the Nephilim that the first man interbred with (hominids)? Why were there giants in the Bible?
>create world for humans, 70% saltwater
I don't get it. Is this supposed to be an argument?
>accidentally made humans too smart to where they become pretentious atheist fuckwits who've never heard of "geometry," "computer science" or "quantum physics"
Lol.
I'm not gonna bother with the rest.

>>516037694 (OP)
he had his cross on which ironically is what the bullet ricocheted off of and into his neck. everyone thinks he had a vest on but it was his chain of the cross that caused it.

>>516042376
you can see it hit around his chest area right where the cross is and it directs the bullet into his neck.

>>516042492
Holy shit you're right....

>>516042492
>wear cross for protection
>it kills him
what a cruel joke that would be if real

>>516040379
https://youtu.be/FxIPAH_FTdM?si=tDQJgYuxcXjKEJTy

Jesus and God aren't real guys, they are just ancient stories. The reason Jesus didn't save Charlie Kirk is because he isn't there.

>>516042851
>Jesus and God doesn't exist
Nice try CIA

>>516037694 (OP)
Good things will come out of (seemingly) bad things. To be Christian makes you immune to blackpills. This is invaluable in times of crises and it's why Christians will win.

>>516041436
>Show your flag memeflag
no
>>516041567
>I'm not gonna bother with the rest.
i accept your concession.
>>516042839
kek

>>516037694 (OP)
Jesus died a long time ago. He is dust.

>>516037694 (OP)
>>516037886
yeah I saw the interview where he said that God stopped the bullet because "God isn't done with Donald J. Trump". In the same interview, he said that the honors Shabbat (picrel)

apparently, God was done with Charlie Kirk.

>>516042851
another midwit has arrived

>>516043124
>no
Lmao you are shitskin kike then
Also
CIA (.gov)
https://www.cia.gov
PDF
DID JESUS DIE ON THE CROSS-CIA (.gov)
https://www.cia.gov
PDF
Christianity
https://www.uniladtech.com/science/space/declassified-cia-documents-reveal-plan-for-us-army-base-on-the-moon-810285-20250407

>>516037694 (OP)
God used Kirks death to start a worldwide movement with Christianity and western values. The UK may actually unfuck themselves.

>>516043198
>Jesus died a long time ago. He is dust.
He never existed in the first place, the Bible is a story.

>>516043124
>>516042839
Lmao two memeflags

>>516042492
it hit his collar bone and deflected upward through his neck cutting his jugular.
it doesn't take much force to alter trajectory. Engineers have been using the principle of inertia in missile defense. This concept is famously summarized by Newton's first law of motion, which states that an object in motion will stay in motion with constant velocity (constant speed and direction) unless acted upon by an external net force.

>>516043465
scholars argue that the Bible is national history

>>516037694 (OP)
bc Juden killed Jesus
kill all jews
kill ZionDon
Heil Hitler

>>516037694 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/live/STwfqfGH1wc?si=C0GuAcwMQlhzXXHA

>>516037694 (OP)
When it is your time it is your time. Kids die of cancer and people find a way of blaming God. If you believe God then you should also believe in eternal life. If you do believe in eternal life and that God accepted Charlie into heaven then he’s doing just fine.

>>516043570
I suppose if you believe one man and one woman birthed all of humanity in a perfect garden and a guy built a boat big enough for 2 of every animal when the world supposedly completely flooded. And there was a guy who walked on water, brought the dead back to life was turned water into wine. If you can't see that these are obviously ancient fairy tales I don't know what to say.

>>516043749
>protestant bs
Good works are required to enter in heaven

>>516043537
The motion of the shirt wouldn't make sense though. It looks like the bullet came form above smacked against something below the shoulders.

>>516043485
>fucking gypsie nigger flag.
obvious Russian behind a VPN, I hope you get droned cave monkey scum

>>516043428
>christcucks are the biggest kike cheerleaders and are the ones passing laws which aim for total kike submission
nice movement you've got there, jewslave

>>516043860
Oh yeah and two prehistoric monkeys fucking eachother for billions of years leading to humans is not a fairytale yea right

>>516043916
>hates Russians
>thinks I am a russian
How is the war going
Shouldn't you be on the frontlines

>>516043956
Natural selection is a pretty decent theory for the evolution of life on Earth. Certainly better than "there is a man in the sky who created everything"

>>516037694 (OP)
Jesus directly moved the bullet into Kirk

>>516037694 (OP)
Jesus pulled the trigger

>>516043956
>you don't have a complete and exhaustive understanding of everything therefore my magic sky kike is real.
real 80iq view of the world

>>516043749
>You just gotta BEELEEVE bro you need to have FAAITHE

This is such a cope. How do Christians fall for this deception for thousands of years?

>Accept my religion or go to my imaginary eternal torture mechanism (or eternal paradise if you accept like a good boy and do what I say)

>>516044142
He is not a man retard
Just shows how low your iq is

Natural selection
Lmao
Yeah ignore the fact that it is impossibly mathematically for such a long time span of mutations from fucking leading to humans

>>516044323
>exhaustive understanding of everything
Yeah I still don't understand how you didn't kill yourself and why you are an incel fag redditor

>>516043872
it does if the bullet split, or a chunk broke of.
doesn't take much to sever a vein

>>516044332
>Yeah ignore the fact that it is impossibly mathematically for such a long time span of mutations from fucking leading to humans
I'm a bit doubtful on that one. I guess that is less believable than a creator made us out of clay.

>>516037694 (OP)
God willed it

>>516044430
That's simple. I don't like in a nigger-like gypsy hellhole. What's your excuse?

God takes us when He needs us. If He determines we are needed more on Earth, He does something.

>>516037694 (OP)
Everyone mocking his death is also a vicious antichrist. How very interesting.

>>516044461
But if the bullet hit his collar bone the shirt wouldn't behave the way it does.

>>516044484
Yep because it is impossible for natural selection to lead to trannies like you to exist
So it was God's will for trannies to exist

>>516044057
yes, I do hate Russians, but thats besides the point vatnik. You still don't own up to the fact your hiding behind a VPN while projecting on my use of meme flag.
STFU nigger

>>516037694 (OP)

Any /k/unts here?

Was that an impressive shot?

>>516044676
My excuse?
Why you are a pajeet shitskin who hates Jesus

>>516037694 (OP)
Because his death forced the left to show their nature.
History is full of maryters.
His death meaning so much to so many renders unto it significance and influence over the course of history.

>>516038301
>>516038758
From the Victory of the Left.
They're being outed as anti-social weirdos while open wig nats like Fuentes are coming off comparitively normal preaching non-violence and desescelation.
All that has a cultural effect and thus an effect on the direction of history.

>>516040912
It is. And it used to piss me off, but now I'm just impressed by it. They're immune to the Charlie Kirk stuff because they see it as him essentially getting lucky that he died because he's "now in Heaven." lol Christians are very hard to demoralize.
>>516042993
This, unironically.

>>516044857
I can only extrapolate based on physics, but it seems he was aiming for center mass, or head, and missed, or the bullet bounced off of something center mass and up into his neck.

>>516044745
Bullets do not consistently or reliably deflect off bone; whether a bullet deflects, fragments, or penetrates depends on numerous factors. Forget magic bullet myth but Instead, a bullet's path can be altered, or it can deform and break apart upon hitting dense bone.
>>>Factors that influence bullet behavior
Impact angle: This is one of the most important variables. An oblique or shallow impact angle is more likely to cause the bullet to ricochet or deflect off the bone's surface, particularly with low-velocity bullets. A direct, perpendicular hit is more likely to cause the bullet to penetrate or shatter the bone.
Bullet caliber and mass: Larger, heavier, and more powerful bullets are more likely to shatter or pass through a bone, while smaller, lighter rounds (like a .22) are more prone to being deflected.
Bullet velocity: A higher-velocity bullet delivers more energy to the target and is more likely to penetrate the bone. Lower-velocity rounds can lose significant speed and energy, making them more susceptible to deflection.
Bullet construction: The design of the bullet, including its shape and materials, affects its behavior upon impact.
Full metal jacket (FMJ) bullets are typically designed to pass through the target, but they can still be deflected by bone.
Soft or hollow-point bullets are designed to expand upon impact, which can cause them to deform or break apart when hitting bone, creating multiple smaller fragments.
Bone density: The density and composition of the specific bone play a role. For example, a young, healthy bone is much harder than a bone with osteoporosis. The thick, dense structure of the skull is more likely to cause a low-velocity bullet to deflect than a smaller rib bone.
Yaw: Even before hitting a bone, a bullet's trajectory can become unstable after it passes through skin and other tissue. This "wobbling" or "yawing" can cause its orientation to change before it strikes bone, resulting in an unpredictable deflection.

>>516042376
>>516042492
>>516042587
>>516042747
You schizos have never had a .30-06 bullet pass near you, have you? It's a 170g supersonic projectile. The "crack" you hear - not from the gunshot, but from the actual round - is a sonic boom, WHICH IS A SHOCKWAVE PROPAGATING THROUGH THE AIR

>>516045179

I meant using a Mauser at that distance without a scope.

He apparently wrote messages on all 5 rounds in the rifle so he was planning for the worst case scenario of missing.

>>516044857
>Was that an impressive shot?
no, anyone with some training could make that shot but looked to me like the fag wanted charlies head to explode but never tried to hit a target at that angle, from a roof, so got em in the neck instead

>>516037694 (OP)
Charlie put the hit on himself. God says nah and let the bullet ricochet from the armor vest

>>516044847
Lmao hohol seething hard

>>516045272
>>516045341
I know about all of this.

>>516037694 (OP)
why didn't God save Jesus?

>>516037694 (OP)
He saved him.

>>516044803
>>posts porn on /pol/ do deflect subject manner
>>wonders why anon gets accused of being a Russian

>>516044803
I don't like trannies I actually a rightist and a white nationalist who believes Christianity has made us weak. By the way I'm not clicking that, and why would you have that on your hard drive? There is nothing like that on my hard drive bro lol.

>>516045376
He wouldve had to be retarded to go scopeless and expect to make his mark. Using a scope though would have made it much easier.

>>516045560
>>516045564
I can already hear the whining pussy beta cuck blue pill hands typing this

Why did Jesus make you a faggot?

POW RIGHT IN THE NECK
DEAD BEFORE HITTING THE DECK

>>516045786
Yea exactly Jesus did it

>>516037694 (OP)

Kirk was a good man who would have gone on to be a great man.

Now he's a martyr that is uniting Whites.

I'm sad that he's gone but his death caused a timeline shift.

Jesus wanted Charlie in heaven to get him rid of this world filled with Christ hating tranny shitskins

>>516045919
More like timeline correction.

He did.
Read Jesus' teachings to learn more.

>>516037694 (OP)
He did.

>>516045489
>assumes im Ukrainian..lol
Further proof guys like kirk are heavily invested by Russia
Nigger your outing your cover, Glavset wont like this. You will serve on the front as a mine clearer.
Have you started pissing your pants every time someone fires up a leaf blower? Or are you one of those poor Moskals who lives in one of Russia's many shit holes outside St. Petersburg or Moscow that always seems to never get seen by media and the people cant afford or know what a leaf blower is?

>>516038452
god kills his best goys and leaves the rest to populate this hell planet. why? because he's a jew.

>>516046107
Kys

>>516037694 (OP)
Jesus/the bible NEVER promises protection from worldly misfortune. Jesus died a martyr, so did all the disciples (except john iirc). In fact, the bible basically says that by following christ, you will be persecuted in this world.

>>516037694 (OP)
Because he doesnt exist? retard

>>516046426
Oh look another memeflag God hating shitskin kike

>>516037694 (OP)
Because Kirk was a piece of shit who went straight to hell.

>>516037694 (OP)
Why didn’t he save himself.

“ Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.”

>>516046547
That isn't your decision to make. I think this stands at the heart of the reason the left asks such asinine questions about spirituality. Of course, if anybody believed that God simply does not allow Christians to becomes victims of wickedness there wouldn't be Christians, because they'd have lost the faith a long time ago.
In the same way, if people thought you were the one at the right hand of God judging the hearts and souls of men the religion wouldn't last a generation. Just like transgenderism tends to not.

>>516037694 (OP)
god doesn't give you invincibility or upside down deer in the ground cheat codes.

>>516046517
Just a reminder that in romania people still believe in vampires, strigoi and shit lmao so no wonder they believe in rabbi yeshua

>>516037694 (OP)
Because striking him down actually amplified him like friggin' Kenobi. The ripple effect is something else

>>516046370
aweee sssoooo sawwwwrrreeeeeeee katsap fuck off you dumb nigger I hope everyone of you Orcs die slow and painful subhuman creature. You're an invasive species that needs permanently liquidated.
Hitler was right about you mongol pieces of shit, you're worse than Zionist kikes with your lies and manipulation.
>>Russian= Jewish lies,greed and subversion + Niggers degeneracy and stupidity+ a chinks small penis and lack of humanity.

>>516041567
>Everything happens for a reason
Okay, by that logic, God planned for man to sin and live in rebellion of His laws.

He was a spiritual tranny, emulating real devotees as a grift

many such cases

>>516042376
>Necklace deflecting .30-06
Retard
>>516042492
>What about his shirt jumping?!
>Um no bullets don't have any kind of trail behind them they're moving through nothing, there was nothing around him right?!?!
Double retard
>>516042587
I'm lumping you in just for the heck of it.

>>516047125
Lmao
We don't
Vampires are a western invention actually lmao
Vampires are not part of our cultures at all it is a westoid invention

>>516047279
Life is cyclical.
>[God] alone has immortality.. (1 Timothy 6:16)
>All the host of heaven shall rot away, and the skies roll up like a scroll. (Isaiah 34:4)
>Lift up your eyes to the heavens… the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment. (Isaiah 51:6)
>Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You will remain… like a garment You will change them, and they will pass away. (Psalm 102:25-26)
>The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire… the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10-12)
>Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. (Matthew 24:35)
And you wanna know what happens after that? The cycle of life continues. This is confirmed in Kabbalistic, Gnostic, and even early Christian apocalyptic traditions.

Kabbalistic: Cosmic Cycles (Shemitot)

> According to the Ari (Isaac Luria), there are 7,000-year cosmic cycles called Shemitot:

Each cycle includes creation, fall, judgment, and renewal. After each cycle, the world collapses, and a new one begins—sometimes with new divine configurations. Only souls fully integrated into the light survive between cycles.

Before this world, the Holy One created and destroyed many worlds…”
—Zohar I, 134a

This is known as olamot shenivre'u venistalku ("worlds created and withdrawn").

> “The All will return to the uncontainable, and the One will emanate anew…”
—Trimorphic Protennoia

This points to cosmic recursion: not identical repetition, but higher cycles of return, fall, and restoration—an eternal spiral.

> “What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done—there is nothing new under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9)

> “Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away…” (Revelation 21:1)

>>516047341
a bullet wouldnt suck the shirt like that with just the small pressure differential it creates. please youfucking double nigger.

>>516047125
so do Russians, eastern europoors are very superstitious. they all are, can't help it.

>>516047429
>The Ekpyrotic theory is a cosmological model that proposes an alternative to the Big Bang theory, suggesting that our universe originated from the collision of two three-dimensional branes within a higher-dimensional space, rather than from an initial singularity. It's a cyclical model, where the universe undergoes cycles of contraction, collision, and expansion.

>>516045068
>From the Victory of the Left.
Do you really think the right won? that from now on the world will be a christian paradise due to such 'sacrifice'?
>>516045068
>They're being outed as anti-social weirdos
I wouldn't generalize that much
>>516045068
>All that has a cultural effect and thus an effect on the direction of history.
I can think of less violent and unjust methods that jebus could have used to produce the effect that you're proposing
do you think provoking a civil war and genocide of the infidels are jebus' ways to provoke change?
i can go and on, but i wont go futher on you're subjective projection on jebus' intentions and ways

>>516037694 (OP)
He has left this broken world, but now he rests safely in the arms of Jesus, comforted in Abraham’s bosom, awaiting the resurrection and eternal joy.

>>516037694 (OP)
He did.

>>516037694 (OP)
He died for our sins.

>>516047279
Did you want to have a deep discussion about grace and the law or do you think that's some kind of gotcha?

He did. He's in heaven with him

>>516037694 (OP)
Because that's not how this works.
I'd have to write a novel length response just to summarize.
Go here and seriously study for the answer. It'll take several years. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures?lang=eng&platform=web

This life is short. He would die eventually. He made the right eternal choice.

is impressive to me how people can twits, distort anything to their image and likenesses
it's almost like anything can be anything in the realm of human thought

>>516047871
In heaven not Abraham's bosom. Two totally different places.

>>516048436
twist*

>>516037694 (OP)
Because Israel is more powerful than Jesus. If you displease Israel, Mossad can kill you and get away with it, even make you blame the wrong people for it. That's how powerful Israel is.

"Charlie Kirk was terrified of Israel"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rf3INsV3-3U

"Charlie Kirk names the jew"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ipW5sLfDt6c

"Charlie Kirk - They're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza"
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pUBc7Ow9qMU

>start walking back your ardent Zionism and slightly criticize Israel over the last few months
>get shot in the neck and die the day before 9/11

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/turning-point-usa-americafest-infested-antisemitism-1234930583/
https://archive.vn/kC0hC

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-toady-floats-deranged-conspiracy-theory-netanyahu-allowed-hamas-attack-to-happen-for-political-reasons/
https://archive.vn/L3l9b

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/
https://archive.vn/uGU4p

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/kirks-murder-cant-erase-his-antisemitism/
https://archive.vn/BfUW7

>>516037886
what would that timeline be like where trump didn't turn his head

>>516048436
i'm having literal shiver and fear right now for thinking that objective truth might not be real

>>516048436
It's you getting it twisted. You understand this exact question was posited to Christ in mockery.

Matthew 27:41-43 (KJV) Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said,
He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

That was almost 2,000 years ago. I'm pretty sure you've heard the answer, but it disappoints you, because, it's based on faith. That's why everytime you ask it I'll be reminding people to remember the victims and to pray for the families.

1 Corinthians 1:23 (KJV) But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;