Thread 516079119

>For the First Time Ever, Census Bureau Data Shows Gender Wage Gap Widening For a Second Year in a Row

>Washington, DC—The Census Bureau released its annual poverty, income, and health insurance data for 2024, finding that for the first time since data has been available, the wage gap between men and women working full time, year-round widened two years in a row.

>Women working full time, year-round were paid 81 cents for every dollar paid to men in 2024, down from 83 cents in 2023, and 84 cents in 2022. This backslide is more severe for Black women, who are facing unusually high unemployment amid the economic chaos created by the Trump administration.

https://nwlc.org/press-release/for-the-first-time-ever-census-bureau-data-shows-gender-wage-gap-widening-for-a-second-year-in-a-row/

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Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions while having equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.

Do you know what this means?

It means men should be paying for any dates they go on with a woman and shouldn't expect her to go 50/50.

FULL STOP.

When the wage gap between the genders reach parity or women surpass men, ONLY THEN can this be re-negotiated.

Man here.

I used to believe the lie, and did.
If you pay for dates your the dude she exploits for resources.

Women, specifically single moms condition their kids to provide for women and other single mom, reject the conditioning.

>>516079119 (OP)
Men should shit test women by watching how they react to splitting the bill. If she hesitates or twitches she fails.

>>516079119 (OP)
It means women work less than men.

>>516079119 (OP)
Maybe you should have got a real job instead of going 200k in debt for an art degree

I don't care about women

>>516079119 (OP)
>Black women, who are facing unusually high unemployment
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions
how does unemployment affect the wage gap if they are only comparing wages of working people?

>>516080025
>shit test
no just regular treatment, they want to be treated as equals? that's what equal treatment looks like?

>>516080003

With that mentality, you shouldn't be dating anyone.

>>516079119 (OP)
There’s an earnings gap, not a wage gap. Women mostly work air conditioned administrative and clerical jobs. Men do jobs that pay more, but are often unpleasant.

>>516079119 (OP)
I have never paid for my date. Why the fuck would I do that? That's GF treatment not random sloot treatment.

I'm a 36 year old virgin and spend my money Doordashing Chipotle and Shake Shack while watching YouTube and streams. The yearly cost of this unironically could've unironically paid for a whole European vacation with a woman but I threw in the towel on dating a little bit before the pandemic.

>>516079119 (OP)
I haven't been on a date in years

>>516079119 (OP)
These wage gap calculations should include all the free shit women are constantly given by men. Simpbuxx should be included in the woman's income with regard to both hard cash and goods/services provided to them by men for free.

>>516082419

Tits or gtfo

>>516079119 (OP)
I suppose the tradition of the Saturday night gram still makes up for that.

cool to see japanese east asian men fuck blonde white girls and asian girls and more

>>516079119 (OP)
>clown economy liquidity dries up
>recession looms
>companies cut bullshit daycare jobs first

color me surprised

>>516079119 (OP)
Actually I should be compensated for haveing to look at her plastic face while eating.

>>516082419
Tail or gtfo.

>>516079119 (OP)
How do unemployed sheboons affect the wage gap in any way? Is it because the whole thing is imaginary bullshit?

>>516079119 (OP)
>28
Pass.

>>516082589

>The average Latino man earns $0.86 for every dollar earned by the average white woman.

You're not fooling anyone.

>>516082419
Post feet.

a date?
lol
lmao

>>516085293

You can't pass because you never had a chance.

>>516082795
at least you helped hundreds of browns live in the country illegally

>>516079119 (OP)
>gay tripfag makes thread
get filtered.

>28 and already bogged
grim

>>516079119 (OP)
>>516082419
>>516085298
Moar. Always wanted to throatfuck a Nickie.

>>516080003
real man here, it costs me nothing to pay for a meal, you're a joke lol
seriously imagine being the cuck faggot who splits bills, i see you losers when shopping, your girls look at me like battered puppies, but i dont feel bad for them selecting honorary shekel pinching jews like you

>>516085532
>An unironically beta paycuck fag
Lmao. How much money do you waste on onlyfans monthly?

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions while having equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.
>Do you know what this means?
It means they work less than 80% of the hours of men, because in reality women are actually paid about 1-3% more at an hourly rate.
So no, women should pay because they make more and are lazy.

>>516085393
omg like this picture is so authentic and like genuine and spur of the moment isnt it lol?

>>516085455
kekekekekek

>>516079119 (OP)
>This backslide is more severe for Black women, who are facing unusually high unemployment amid the economic chaos created by the Trump administration.
Someone has that screenshot/data showing how almost every black woman with a job is employed by the government? I thought I saved it but I can't find it.

>>516085718

The data literally accounts for full-time work.

Stop trying to be cheap bastard.

It's amazing how all the men on this board complain about cheapskate Jews, but feel they shouldn't have to come up out of their pocket when taking a girl on a date.

Pathetic.

>>516079119 (OP)
>>516082419
>>516085298
>>516085393
It makes me butthurt beyond belief that despite the awful state of dating and culture, and despite being near the end of the line at 28, there are still millionaire 36 year old men who've been busting their asses since they were in middle school practically tripping over each other to earn her favor. She's probably sporadically texting with several of the them at the same time while they've each thought of nothing but her for weeks or months.

>see woman
>think about the logistics and maintenance required
no thanks

>>516085393
Ok in that case its no isse that I don't want to pay.

>>516079119 (OP)
Only bitches are money suckers. A real woman decides by herself to split payments with her man and buy her shit by herself.

>>516079119 (OP)
>It means men should be paying for any dates
when a woman is really interested in someone/something she will pay no matter the cost

you will never be a woman

>>516079119 (OP)
>income gap
>wage gap
this fucking scam has to stop

>>516085532
In any social interaction, the most powerful individual is the one who can achieve his desires whilst investing the least. If you had to take a girl out on a dinner date and pay for her meal to maintain her interest in you, that's a sign of weakness, not strength.

I am guessing, such a girl would have had around 10 boyfriends between the age of 13-18, then between the ages 18 to 28, 20-50 dicks per year. So probably a body count between 200-500

>>516085532
>I pay for women in the hopes that they'll like me cuz I'm an alpha guize
I'm sure you're the coolest guy in the twitch chat.

>>516079119 (OP)
>This backslide is more severe for Black women, who are facing unusually high unemployment amid the economic chaos created by the Trump administration.

>>516079119 (OP)
If I pay for dinner she owes me sex.

FULL STOP

>>516086494
Both false and cringe. An individual who is worried about spending $100 on a dinner date has zero power. For example, if you make $2k a day, then $100 for a date is nothing to you, and being able to pay for it without evening thinking is a sign of power.

But if you only make minimum wage, then $100 represents a full day of your labor. Paying for that dinner would be a big hit to your finances. If paying $100 for a date hurts your finances or is something you even worry about, that's a sign of weakness.

>>516085532
lmao I bet you tried to pay people to be your friend in grade school

>>516079119 (OP)
Never spend money on women and never take advice from faggots. They want you to fail.

>>516085532
>costs me nothing
>literally costs him

Are you retarded?

>>516087697
>Are you retarded?
Anybody that calls himself a real man is coping hard.

>>516087498
You mistake wealth for authority. To spend without care may reveal abundance, but abundance is not power. Many a banker with millions is emotionally ruled by his wife; a general with nothing but his soldiers’ loyalty may still command a nation. Power is relational, not material: it is the ability to command respect, to compel obedience, or to inspire loyalty.

The aristocratic traditions of the past knew this. For them, restraint and indifference to vulgar display marked true rank. Only the bourgeois imagined that masculinity must be earned through enduring indignities and offering visible provision. If you must pay to be desired, then you do not hold power - you are merely renting it.

>>516082419
Tail or gtfo.

>>516088386
whether or not you should pay for a date is not something powerful people spend any time worrying about

>>516079119 (OP)
Gender wage gap has been deboonked.

what are you loser cucks buying with your pillow waifus? diamond crusted caviar on payment plans? what could you possibly be sweating over on a food bill? that's why i dug at you with the real man, only a boy would care about small shit like this, that fact it's even a talking point that generated this much seethe from you needle dicks proves it

>>516089203
>>516088954
A man of authority is obeyed without tribute, and a woman of good character has no desire to be charmed and doted on. What you describe is not love, but a form of prostitution, simply in finer clothes.

>>516079119 (OP)
Sure, in the old world where men and women were paid what they deserved men should pay for dates.
In clown world, women should pay for dates because this is the world they wanted.

>>516086147
Men are natural simps, it has been the case since Adam and Eve. Men would kill anyone, including their own parents for a crumb of pussy and call it "love". Without a vagina to worship, this life becomes a meaningless grind anyway.
This is why God wants us to be single, married men will always serve vagina over God, married men will take the Mark of the Beast just like they took the vax.

>>516088765
I bet it's a faggot like you who radicalized Tyler. Kill yourself.

>>516079119 (OP)
negotiations are way over.
>go on first date with foid
>foid says something feministic or leftismos
>get up, walk away
>here is your equality dear, you gave me the ick so you pay.

only be nice to girls who deserve it. foids do not.

>>516079119 (OP)
i don't go out for dates, so i'm not paying
same goes for society, so i stay NEETing

>>516090545
Had I been the one who had radicalized him, he would have shot up a Tailor Swift concert, a "female" stand-up comedian's gig or something along those lines.

>>516079119 (OP)
The reason they are paid less is because they are unproductive, and as a consequence of money being tight right now, there are no more budgets for funding their make-believe shit where they pretend to be men's equal.
I will also not pay for first dates because women have become generally unpleasant, and she first needs to prove to me that she is different from the others. Chances are she's not, and I don't pay for unpleasant company.

New

Jeetcel

thread

just

dropped!

>>516085298
It’s not legal to pay women less. Women simply earn less money than men on average. That’s all.

>>516085532
>real man
>beta bux
everytime someone tells me about "real men", it is a destription of a slave, no exceptions

>>516079119 (OP)

In relationsship women's money is women's money and men's money is shared one....at divorce women getting every time more money than they are worth of.

So stop complain.

>>516079119 (OP)
She looks like she's 35. That being said, would. I didn't read a word in your post

>>516082715
from experience, all the women who had an honest interest in me wanted to split the bill out of their own volition, without me saying anything to prompt it.
it was only those who were just going along with it for a free meal or a bit of entertainment who tried to get me to cover all expenses.
so it worked pretty well as a filter for me. a woman who has genuine interest in you as a person will want you to have an interest in meeting her again, and an easy way for her to do that is to make it a cheap and pleasant experience for you.
a woman who insists on you covering the bill doesn't give a shit about you as a person, she just cares about your wallet and tries to test the waters to see how easily she can drain it.

>>516086216
take the lucid dreaming pill and chose a waifu

>>516085532
>real man here

>>516087498
>>516088954
>paying for a nice date is a sign of weakness
Kill yourself. God women are such horrible people it’s seriously unbelievable

>>516088954
a powerful man doesn't worry about the bill because he already knows he's not paying it, kek

>>516089203
>explaining the female coded insult

>>516087498
no, you just want to rationalize your paypiggie status
if you need to invest ressources to keep a person in your orbit, you are not a factor, but your money is
she doesn't like you enough to be with you without money. doesn't sound strong/alpha to me, to let money talk instead of yourself
or do you think fucking prostitutes is something great?

>>516079119 (OP)
Women would pay for Chad even if the gap was a chasm

>>516090905
it's also economically retarded to claim that women are paid less for the exact same performance.
companies are even cutting costs on components that cost pennies for shit like cars that costs thousands, and you want to tell me they wouldn't just straight up fire all men and hire exclusively women if they could expect to get the same performance for less employment costs? kek

>>516079119 (OP)
Bet you would really like that little miss roastie..

Show tits or gtfo

Tatted up whores are not worth my time much less giving them a free dinner.

>>516079119 (OP)
>pay for my dinner, boyim
why would i pay for dinner or date “adventures” when Chad and Jamal fuck you up the asshole behind nightclub dumpsters for free

>>516089203
>not being a paypig is cucked now
>just earn enough so you can pay without being broke
>just pay up, haha
>what, you didn't bought her a house? what a cuck you are
i'm so glad that this thinking is on its way out
20 year old esoteric MGTOW talking points are now young guy knowledge 101

>>516089203
shut the fuck up retard

>>516091495
You are right that companies maximalize cost cutting but that is for parameters where you can easily measure the cost. Having women on your company has social and legal value. With gender quota legislation and a feminist ideology rampant in society having women on your team has a social value that is hard to account for.
Companies actually overpay women by a lot. They don't produce as much as men, they also reduce productivity of everyone around them with their bullshit jobs and they gatekeep the good hires while letting in useless minorities and women.

>>516091601
I never really bought into their
>lol free meal!
shit. That's just the cope they tell themselves to avoid the truth that they have simply nothing going on in their lives and also no access to men they'd believe to be in their league, so they cycle through endless low effort dates to try and scratch that itch a bit.
No one with an actual life would waste their time going on a date with someone they aren't interested in just for some free food. Food isn't that expensive, and cooking is less of a time investment than a date, unless you go to the fastfood store next door.
You could offer me a multi-course dinner at a steakhouse paid for by a woman I am not attracted to and the answer would be "no". I am not that bored.

>>516091602
>boyim

>>516079119 (OP)
How is this porn thread still up???

>>516091701
Don't forget to give your hard earned money to a jew so she can have a shinny rock on her finger.

buying dinner method, just like opening her car door, laying your jacket down over a puddle, and buimg flowers has been PATCHED. Nice dinner dates are reserved for birthday, anniversary m, graduations or other hallmark events for a woman you are already sleeping with. i have spoken.

>>516091819
You underestimate lazy whores. Tinder and the other demonic apps are mainly a women's ego boost. They can take pictures of expensive food and upload it to their IG while not paying for it.

>>516091819
yeah, but you're a man
women go off on other stuff. making a man pay for her shit, getting attention, getting material to talk about with your "besties", social validation and more
>I am not that bored
because you are not boring. most women are though
>>516091924
right you are memeg flaggot
>women make less than men
>women spend about three times as much as men
funny how this math works

>>516079119 (OP)
I pay for dates, not out of gallantry but because I refuse to have a woman which I rightfully consider a lesser being pay for me.

>>516091945
they still act like fucking monkeys

>>516091819
>Food isn't that expensive
Fastfood is expensive as fuck.
>cooking is less of a time investment than a date
These bitches can't cook, nobody taught them how to do it, their daddies raised princesses and princesses don't cook, period. And buying groceries ain't free either, must spend time, money and energy to get them.

>>516089203
Kek, don't worry anon. I'm on a work camp.
There are no women here.
Only money to be made.

>>516079119 (OP)
I am rather single, I don't go on dates.

>"tee hee, jump through the hoops! come on jump through the hoops!"

The meta on women has been figured out, thanks largely to them telling on themselves.
When you realize in your head that 'she gave her best to some other guy and didn't give him any bullshit' you feel absolutely zero romantic (but still sexual, yes) attraction to a woman. Like fuck off lady I don't want to buy you anything when I know some other guy DMd you and you eagerly went over there and if we got married you'd be thinking about him, yuck.

>>516079119 (OP)
Thanks but think I'll pass on that offer.

>>516091819
every woman thread got the out of touch literal who eurocuck/thirdie screeching about his personal lived anecdotal evidence experience in his 3,500 rinky dink village in the hillside of his 750,000 population country. unbeknownst to him, all american trends are exported to the world on a 2-10 year delay depending on the trend, and that goes for hoeflation as well. just wait, you'll see how bad it will get. we're warning you, you have no idea how bad its getting here.

>my friend: hey mid roasties wanna come in my yacht tomorrow
>mid roasties: how big is the yacht?

>>516085393
Fixed

>>516091945
Pretty much this.

I'm at the point now I have resources and money and they are only available to women 18-25.

Women aged 26 and over can buy their own bottles of wine, and split bills.
If you have a viable womb, and want kids and are unvaccinated, then yeah, absolutely I will buy you dinner and court you properly and as a woman should be treated.

Be unvaccinated, and your only good for one night stands and to make my pp feel good.

>>516092457
Does dating younger work in Canada? From what I have seen the new world is very much against it

>>516092448
>there's no reason why I can't get one of those men
kek

>>516092067
That's just being a simp with mental gymnastics.

>>516082795
>drop the bad habbits
>save the money
>book a vacation company
>fuck the shit out of her for 2-3 weeks
have fun

>>516092653
Age would be the main reason.

>>516089203
OK boomer! Whats ur Networth grandpa? Does your dick still Work without meds?
You know there are people to cheap to buy Restaurant meals that have 100x your Networth right?

Im probably getting ragebaited Here but w/e

>>516092703
Yeah, pretty much.
They get one of these guys when they are 20, stay with him for 5-10 years, and then believe they can totally get another guy just as good if they go back onto the dating market, not realizing they already dropped below their man's value long ago and he is staying with them for emotional reasons, not because it is actually beneficial to him from a cold logic perspective.
But that's exactly the perspective anyone who is not already emotionally attached to her will take.

>>516092635
who gives a fuck what the world is against, if she’s willing to fuck, fuck her. caring what others think is very normie

>>516079119 (OP)
Well, women are whores, so I guess it goes without saying that you pay for them.

>>516092635
It's entirely pay to play.
I'm 32 and worked my whole life to get where I am, women didn't want fuck all to do with me when I didn't have things,

Now I have things and it's 18-25 only, and I'm open about "wanting a family" and it makes women seethe because they make unsolicited remarks about how I need to settle down and step up and be a real man and go for single moms.

I refuse and this literally shakes their entire reality because I have access to resources and my quality of life only goes up from here, it makes them seethe to no end to see me going my own way and not spending money on women, and getting myself to a position where I can leverage power and support them in exchange for a tradwifau or a zoomette that's ready to have daddy take care of her while she plays house and raises the kids to be based.


So, it works but it's entirely pay to play, you need to own things like a car and a house. The seethe is real too and its hilarious, just tell them you worked hard your whole life and you want a woman who wants to start a family, not one who's ready to settle down.

Also being open about not wanting to date women who were abused because their brains are fractured is another huge one that makes them go insane. Seen enough of my friends, and myself go down this path.

I don't want an abused woman that will take it out on me, or the kids or use it as an excuse to do shady shit or low trust behavior, not my responsibility to fix broken women

>>516085298
Ugly
>>516085393
disgusting
>>516082419
Whore

Whoever this harlot is should be stoned to death for being gay. You too for supporting transsexual terrorists and that flag.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Do you know what this means?
Yes, that women perform less, now fuck off.

>>516079119 (OP)
>want pussy?
Pay the hooker

>don't want pussy?
Don't pay the hooker.

Prove me wrong.

>>516092448
Any man who accepts a woman like that in his life deserves every fucking ounce of bullshit she brings with her.

Putting on makeup, being anorexic, and taking a dick a few nights per week = $120k annual stipend? No wonder we have a tranny epidemic.

>>516092291
they'll try to argue their way out of it by claiming that was back when they were dumb and inexperienced, but what does it matter to me?
why would I accept a deal where I get the shit end of the stick because of some supposed mistakes she made in the past that I was not involved in at all?
whatever price point you sold yourself at in the past is your maximum value. maybe you'll get someone to pay some 5-10% extra because you check off just the right boxes for him, but that's about it.
my local supermarket had the same issue - sold its brand store energy drinks at a 60% discount a few times and then eventually had to discontinue it because people would no longer buy it for the full price but always just waited for the next discount.

>>516092999
>all I care about is money but I'm not a gold digger
Kek. Women do not deserve equal rights to men.

>>516092999
why would he say anything to the contrary? he is not interested in a career or money, which is why he never went around blowing his stacks.
the fact that money was such a big deal to her when it isn't to him also just shows that they are incompatible, so why would he reveal it to try and keep her around?

>>516080003
This. As the child of a single mother, this is exactly the issue in a lot of cases
Of course, I am now NEET while my wife works and I am comfy at home all the time. I can't remember the last time I personally paid for anything.
>Stupid mom didn't count on me turning out handsome kek

>>516079119 (OP)
I would pay for Nicki, we'd have a great time, she'd laugh a lot, I'd be charming as usual. Then I'd ghost here the very next day

>>516093033
>they make unsolicited remarks about how I need to settle down and step up and be a real man and go for single moms.
kek, same for me
>Haha Anon, but really, you can't just remain free forever, eventually you need to accept the shackles of marriage *wink wink*
Not even paraphrasing, I heard that line verbatim.
Asked her "why not?" and she quickly changed the subject, kek.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions

WRONG

>>516091819
>He doesn't know how lazy and unempathetic women are
Lmao ngmi

>>516093691
these always baffle me
>I told my bf that I find him unattractive, want to fuck other men and that our view on life does not align at all
>Why did he break up with me?! In my mind this was a fair deal!

>>516085532
Exactly. I am a willing doormat for other people to take advantage. Women have inherent value mea while men do not and deserve to be served.

I'm not interested in paying for what some men get for free, or pay in weed/cheap beer

>>516092663
If that's what you want to believe, fair enough. I don't use any dating apps and my current woman I met at the bakery and started chatting her up so I don't have to deal with the kind of American gold diggers.

>>516093433
Reminds me of this, I just went and found it now.
tl;dr is:
>fiance (he's a virgin) gets vanilla sex from OP
>wants to experiment, OP says ''nooo, i'd never do that!''
>fiance meets ex, turns out she *did* do it and there's videos too (the ex sent them to him)
>fiance is immediately turned off
>fiance decides it's not working and he doesn't want to be engaged with her anymore
>"i'll experiment with you now!"
>he says no, because if she's forcing herself to do it it's not even real desire

He's surprisingly mature at handling it since he's a virgin and she's trying to gaslight him and trick him all the time. Eventually he pitches them being in an "open relationship" and she's heartbroken because now he just sees her as a fuck and that's it.
Most annoying part to me though was when she thinks she actually just henpecked and nagged him into not wanting sex anymore and instead he just bides his time and dumps her and she can't figure out why. Female "therapy culture" is a fucking scourge.

>>516094175
>>516093033
Same boat here. I plan on having a son via surrogate when I'm 40. Single fatherhood is safer than marriage. Sexbots and artificial wombs can't come soon enough.

>>516094523
Always found the chopstick line funny, because my weeb ass can probably eat better with chopsticks than she can with knife and fork, but I doubt she'd like the reason for that, kek.

>>516094648
see
>>516092378

>>516091806
>Companies actually overpay women by a lot.
I'm starting to suspect this is the case. Women take more time off for sickness and random bullshit. They get huge amounts of maternity leave and this is all in addition to their hourly rate which is identical to men's by law, and is also tracked across entire companies to ensure the commission and executive pay is equal.

>>516094889
women get paid 6 figures a year to lounge around in air conditioned offices making tiktoks while men must slave in the hot sun or warehouses for 30k a yr. then the women turn around and say they’ll only date guys who also make 6 figures, even though those 30k a year warehouse and labor jobs are what makes society run. it’s an unsustainable system with no incentive for average income earners who are under 6ft tall. there’s no carrot at the end of the stick

>>516091806
>>516094889
The point is not productivity or profits, since money is fake and gay anyway, the point is DEPOPULATION, it is literally the main goal of all Western governments. In the past roasties had to settle for 5'8" average Joe because they would die without a husband. Now if you give them fake jobs and birth control pills, they won't ever have children, because they will keep swiping tinder, searching for 6'8" demigod trillionaire who doesn't exist.

>>516094671
>lies to her fiance over something she knows will be a dealbreaker
>repeatedly
>even told her ex intimate details about their relationship
>guy gives her one last chance to prove herself by asking her to burn all bridges through filing a police record
>she refuses
What did she expect, kek
Now he knows he's just beta buxx and the guy she actually cares about is Steven. She might actually believe her own cope shit and think that this is not the case, but her actions prove otherwise.
She got more than enough chances to prove her loyalty, and every single time she did the exact opposite. No shit he'll cut you off, you dumb skank. They think that going "but I love you!" will fix things when the other side already knows that everything coming out of their mouth is likely to be a manipulative lie.

Then again, I guess women just don't have a concept of principles. If the situations were reversed, she'd probably accept the deal as long as she gets what she wants in the end.

>>516079119 (OP)
Women are not paid less they earn less.

>>516095310
hoeflation has reached unsustainable levels, being a passport bro is now mandatory. just dont bring her back to the Jewnited States of Weimerica

>>516086107
>women are cheaper>that is why employers emply the more expensive option. Men.

>>516092999
Can't find the follow up story but it was even more satisfying.

>>516095849
Which would be plausible if male solidarity existed. In reality any male would backstab his best childhood friend to sniff a pussy.

It's cheaper to just date Ava.
There is no arguing.
Ava just takes cock like a champ after a steak dinner.
No questions asked.
No shit tests.
Sounds like a ((you)) problem.

>>516091819
You never met anyone with a poor person mentality. These people in America will work 40 hrs a week funding a way to not work and keep their benefits. It's really weird.

>>516094868
We've had dating websites and dating apps for like 20 years man, there even was one literally made for cucks called "adopteunmec" which translates to "adopt a dude" where women could pick a dude to "adopt as their boyfriend". The #MeToo movement came over here in less than 6 months except it was called #BalanceTonPorc which translates to "Denounce your pig". Just because we don't have a tranny epidemic doesn't mean we're 10+ years behind social trends.
At the end of the day it's your choice to use such apps which attract the worst of the worst. But your kind rarely goes out, that's the problem just like >>516082795 most of you guys complaining are either neets or IT faggots who spend $40k a year on food delivery and $15k on your gacha games since it's your only hobby so yeah if you're that guy your only option is either a coworker or a dating app which are both absolutely terrible ideas.
Anyway lunch break is over I'll catch ya later nigger.

>>516094671
>He's surprisingly mature at handling it since he's a virgin and she's trying to gaslight him and trick him all the time.
Also, I think it's just a general mindset that doesn't require all that much maturity. I already did the same as a child. My mom would do extremely unfair shit to me and when I was upset about it, she'd try to win me back by offering sweets.
But as far as I remember, I never once took that deal, because it felt dishonest and wrong, it didn't need any logical consideration from my side to reject it.

you guys have any slightly unethical tips for staying afloat in this shitty economy? I already steal from work occasionally

>>516079119 (OP)
this slide again?

I'm no dating guru, but how many dates is the average Joe going on to where paying for one date leaves him without money for bills/food?
Maybe you guys are more redpilled than me, but if splitting the bill means she gets the "ick" once the date in over, was it even worth it?

>>516079119 (OP)
I went out with a girl on Saturday, I drove and she paid

>>516092378
I've noticed hoeflation here more than a decade ago.
Like bitch, I'm tall and ripped, yet you still think you can land a better deal than me?

>>516079119 (OP)
read it again
and compare the exact same job, adjust for hours worked
if you are aware of an actual wage gap and you live in the uk the usa or most eu member states report it immediately
paying people different wages for the same number of hours at the same job is illegal in these countries
this study like the others for it are comparing workers in different jobs who work different hours, which yes obviously there will be a pay gap between an 800 hour a year worker and a 3000 hour a year worker

>>516096351
it's not about the actual price of the meal. since it will be you who is planning everything anyway, you can just pick a restaurant that is within your means.
it's about men having caught on to the fact that a woman demanding you to cover the bill means she's not interested in you.
when she actually desires the guy, she will already mention that she wants to split the bill before it's even presented to you, specifically to ensure you will not think of her as a gold digger.
when women want you, the person, and not you, the wallet, they will do what they can to avoid you getting a bad impression of them that might make you cut contact.

>>516079119 (OP)
If I pay for the dates then I eat the dates. No sharing. Stolen dates taste even better but no one gonna take those dates away from me.

I’d pay if she’s a virgin

>>516079119 (OP)
>paying for any dates
I'm not showing any interest in a woman until her father proves her famiy can afford a sizable dowry.

there are three types of men for a woman
>a) the guy she doesn't want but who pays
>b) the guy she wants but who doesn't pay
>c) the guy she wants and who pays
women preferably want c), men want to avoid being a)
so as a simple test from men's side, they can just see if they fall into b). if they are b), they can also be c) and everything is fine. if they do not get away with b) it means they're a) and should cut their losses right now.

I didn't mind paying for dates. I see it as the same as a potential employer buying my lunch during and on site interview.

>>516085298
>tube sock boobs
>cheap back tattoo
Women like this should only be considered dream girls in isolation.

>>516097757
Are you american or proxy? True american would say
>not fat
12/10 GODDESS WHERE IS HER OF?

>>516079119 (OP)
I paid for the first date with a woman and now we are married with a son and we now own a small farm
Don't do it anons, it's a trap that will set you down a path like mine

>>516098045
>I paid for the first date with a woman and now we are married with a son and we now own a small farm
>Don't do it anons, it's a trap that will set you down a path like mine

>>516092448
is "i need advise also" (instead of too) legit native english?

>>516080003
I was raised by a single mom and she is PISSED that I'm not spending money on dating single moms. I'm pretty sure being gay is a great option for me.

>>516098045
Women despise family life and would never settle like that, especially in a country where males have less rights than dogs.

>>516097412
Why would you pay for a (((date))) fuck off. Maybe after you had coitus and like her enough you can.

Who wants a low life female that demands a free lunch before you know her.


Retard mentality

>>516092448
This is feminist rage bait for sure

>>516093311
just wanna add
>want kid
pay a surrogate
>don't want kid
don't pay a surrogate

>>516080003
>Women, specifically single moms condition their kids to provide for women and other single mom
As someone raised by a single mom, this is 100% true.

>>516098384
we used to have a system where the woman is trusted that her intentions are honest, and therefore the man has to prove themselves first.
then women decided to boast on social media that they are untrustworthy and every guy who trusts them is a retarded loser, so now it will be women who have to prove themselves first.
they'll get the gf advantages after I have found out if they'll actually be my gf, not before.

>>516094830
It always gets a laugh out of me. If you were seeing an Asian bird I very much doubt she'd care (because you're not Asian), but this random bimbo has appointed herself chopstick inspector for white people.

>>516079119 (OP)
Most of the pay gap comes from women taking a few years to not work and raise a child.
The pay gap for people in their 20s is basically non existent.

>>516098872
Agreed

If you have to take her out on a date before she will submit to you and fuck it’s already over, they’ll fuck Chad instantly

>>516079119 (OP)
Nah, youre strong and independent, and can pay for yourself.
YOU GOT THIS, GO GIRL!
and don't come back lol.

>>516085298
>>516082419
>>516079119 (OP)
n nicki?
is that you?

>>516085532
And then she gives you nothing in return while she comes and sees me after lol, dumb lying self owning cuck

>>516079119 (OP)
If women put out I'll pay, if not we split the bill.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Men should pay for dates.
No fuck off brokie.

>>516079119 (OP)
Come make me, mother fucker.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men
Men have greater access to wealth.
Women have greater access to sex.
If men must pay because of access to wealth then women must put out because of their greater access to sex.

>>516089203
>w-why don’t you just hand over the cash! Come on, hurry up! Now!
Women literally sound like new york city street muggers now.

>>516091495
Trannies and communists explain this away by saying that they hate women and are conspiring to not hire them.

>>516092999
the "torrenting a documentary" thing is the most damning indication of this thing's believability. Women by and large do not torrent, and if she even mentioned it at all, she'd probably just use a word like "downloading"

>>516091333
Can confirm.
t. Won genetic lottery
>Funniest and most notable part about it is that black guys SEETHE about White women paying for your shit when they see it. Whenever the cashier is a nigger and she pays for whatever, he will ALWAYS start trying to low-key call me a bum and do the whole *licks lips lemmehollaatcha*
>And then they seethe like I've never seen anywhere else when she expresses 0 interest and regards them as an irritation

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions while having equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.
no lol
wage gap bs was debunked as soon as it was pushed
you jewrat

>>516079119 (OP)
>>516082419
gay flag
ack yourself

i can pay for dates if i get laid in the end

>>516079119 (OP)
>When the wage gap between the genders reach parity or women surpass men
There is no wage gap, only productivity gap.
Women work fewer hours per year than men, therefore they make less per year than men. Women should stop being lazy shits.

Does that bitch live under a bridge?

>>516079119 (OP)
I know all of you motherfuckers in this basketweaving forum are virgins, But coming from someone that actually gets laid consistently (banged 2 new this week), splitting the bill is the most retarded thing that you can possibly do on a first date.

Girls will get immediately turned off and 99% of the time you will never hear from them again.

It's not about whether it's the right thing to do politically or not, it's simply a terrible move to make from a purely strategical standpoint if your goal is to fuck her.

>>516096872
She looks wayy better without makeup

I'm trying a relationship with a man for the first time, and one thing I appreciate about it is the matter of who pays for dates. It has become a game where we both compete with each other to pay first. It's fun because I know he's sincere about trying to pay. I've never been with a woman that means to pay for much of anything, let alone wants to.

>>516102342
>>516102927
You guys are seriously the coolest posters on all of 4chan. I mean it, you are THE MAN

>>516102927
it's about feminist demanding free meals and they regularly use men for free meals without reciprocating sex which they have much greater access to.
It's also much easier to access a penis for a blowjob so reciprocating oral is not a must-do either.

>>516102117
he torrented a documentary, not her
i remember when i torrented documentaries
after some while, there were no new ant docs available anymore

>>516079119 (OP)
Slide thread kike. Herbs in all fields.

>>516103222
You’re missing the point. Even if he did, a woman wouldn’t call that “torrenting” because they’re retarded.

>>516103057
I know it is the only way to experience true love, because women are demonic beings, created to torture us in this satanic realm, BUT you shouldn't engage in sexual acts with men, it will destroy your body and soul. So my advice - just be best frens with no buttfuckery.

>>516103326
okay, fair point
but on the other hand, maybe she picked it up from him and wanted to be seen as clever
they are chamelions like this

>>516103195
If I had been born a woman with these exact same stats, I would own the planet by now.
Alas, I've carved out a chill life for myself and the people I care about instead.

>>516095641
I’m hearing that latin america is becoming ultra unsafe for white male solo visitors. They hate us for some reason and want us murdered. No surprise there honesyly, non-whites are our matural enemies, i’m not sure who ever thought that going over there was a good idea in the first place.

>>516102927
>>516103195
>>516103213
Cunts are pure evil, period. God created them because Adam would never sin by himself.
Once I finally realized that, I cannot feel anything good towards them.

>pay for the date
>but ask her to split the bill
>if she has a poor reaction to it, red flag
>if she says okay, keep her
>if she knows what you're doing and still doesn't like it, fucking run
>if she knows what you're doing and still says okay, could be good or bad

>>516093033
based leaf
but this is a women hate thread
youre suppose to be demoralized
dont fuck up the kikes script

>>516086673
and she'll never feel fulfilled. women like her destroy their pair bonding at such a young age that dating is irrelevant to them outside of its raw transactional nature

>>516080003
>Women, specifically single moms condition their kids to provide for women and other single mom

I was rasied by a single mom, and I never heard abotu this faggy provider shit. I was taught to see men who try to impress women with money as pathetic cucks (that they are), and men that pay for sex in a relationship aka providers as equal to whoremongers (which they are)

>>516096096
At the end of the day it's your choice to use such apps which attract the worst of the worst. But your kind rarely goes out, that's the problem

Completely correct, very underrated

>>516079119 (OP)
Do we get a mileage discount on your pussy? I would be very interested in such a deal.

>>516103815
> implying spic shitville has ever been safe for whites

>>516080003
This guy is correct and the rest of the faggots are seething at him. Most gays and trannies were groomed or abused by single moms, or by single moms who shacked up with some faggot stepdad who abused them.

I bet if we were ever to do any data analysis and rigorous study on this, the facts would be staggering.

>>516079119 (OP)
I'll pay fot a date. Least I can do to bribe a nice woman to come hang out with me. But if she has no intention of having a relationship, she should not accept the transaction. And this is why I shit test bitches. Bring 'em to the movied, offer to buy the tickets if they buy the popcorn. If they balk or get weird? Red flag. If they're cool? I'll take them out fot a more expensive meal or whatever right after.

>>516096279
yes anon.
its not going to get better.

>>516085393
He's not the only one who can't pass

>>516097182
PEAK SEX KITTEN

>>516082795
>Doordashing
Dude what the fuck just cook your own food or at least pick shit up yourself

>>516093033
>you need to own things like a car and a house.

Ignorant summer child. It's only pay to play if you wanna be a father yeah theres no getting around that unless you met a rare women thats makeing bank but ultimately she will just view you as another kid to raise.

I can promise you there are women that don't care if you own anything if you have confidence drive is in good shape ( Especially in good shape. Do you want her to lust after your car or you?) and or be a bad boy women WILL pay for you and even buy shit I had girlfriends and ex girlfriends buy me tons of shit and even after dateing id get sent gifts. Women are the only sex that literally have hybristophilia i worked with a dude that joined our jobsite that just got out of jail basically had to start a new life had no fucking car he had to walk to work eventually he got a GF and she drove him everywhere like godamn donald trump.
There's a reason why Fifty Shades of Grey it is a most sold book on earth and pretty much the top sold books are dark fantasies by women.

Nice guys finish last. I can promise you that. Women are completely ran by emotions they love emotional roller coaster rides you can give a woman a time of her life on a godamn bike less then 10k vs some expensive ass bmw or some shit.

You own things. Great cool. But does she LUST after you? Does she generally desire you? Not your materialistic dumb things you collected like some goofy bird doing a mating dance.

You simply took the gamma male route. Which is fine nothing wrong with that most men have to take that route in life i took the george clooney bachelor for life approach i loved all my girlfriends and they can get up and leave whenever the F they want. whether I have a car or a home or whatever other dumb shit. or I'll just crash at her place and my rent is railing her.

Women look for physical support (sex) emotional support and financial support and you and your nice "things" are at her end game. Your just security

>>516089203
>calls himself a real man
you aint

>>516099947
based cocksucker

>>516079119 (OP)
Real men dont pay shit and still get to fuck

>>516093033
>you need to own things like a car and a house.
I own a car that was given to me and a house is impossible where I live.
And I live in a "red state"

>>516099947
>asian sth mixture
>jewish
ok what type of jew is this?
dont say golddigger, jews are all golddiggers

>>516099947
Now that's a freakish looking juden

>>516082419
With that mentality, you probably contracted AIDS from another man's dick.

>>516079119 (OP)
Women should provide for the family and men should do the house chores and raise kids in this new world. Time to adapt.

>>516079119 (OP)
Well half of women don’t work, so your stats are skewed. Until an equal number of women work, we won’t have a good enough sample size. Bootstraps ladies

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions while having equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.
>equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.

Kek. You've clearly never worked with women if you believe that.

she probably looked good before all the plastic surgery and injections

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions while having equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.
If this was the case all men would be unemployed because no one running a business would pay someone more for the same quality of work if they could get it cheaper

>>516099947
too bogged and slutty for my taste, but I can appreciate her sense of realism

>>516079119 (OP)
>men
>do real work
>women
>don't do real work
legitimately, there are exceptions and nursing is pure humiliation ritual, the job, but realistically, is anyone still shocked?

>>516082795
change your life now before it's too late or else one day you'll wake up and be 50 having the exact same regrets

>>516085293
this, too old, used goods.

>>516096096
>and $15k on your gacha games since it's your only hobby
to be fair, what are apartment cucks supposed to do? our society has slaughtered home ownership and social media has made everyone anti-social.

>>516079119 (OP)
If anything women should be covering the whole bill considering their income should be ZERO.

>>516079119 (OP)
Absolute faggotry FULL STOP.

>>516079119 (OP)
Women should keep their legs closed and faggots need to be imprisoned.

>>516079119 (OP)
Look faggot, women get paid less because they deserve less. They’re not really all the way human. So we make sure they don’t get the same pay as a human being. Understand? It would be cruel to them anyway, to pay them the same so that they get their hopes up and start thinking that they’re actual real grown up adult people, when they’re nothing but ridiculous children.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Men should pay for dates.
No, because there won't be a date in the first place with a stupid whore that thinks men are loaded in 2025. Go suck off Harvey Weinstein for lunch money and leave me the fuck alone, whore.

>>516079119 (OP)
The wage gap studies don't account for men working overtime, dishonest roastie misdirection as always.

>>516079119 (OP)
Its almost as if when things become more and more depserate and real, and les fake and ghey, women's "work" is valued even less.

The truth is, the bottom half of the jobs done by the class known as "women" simply require someone to be present and not insane. No real skills, strnegths or abilities are required -show up, dont be crazy and do what youre told. Anyone can do it, so they dont have to pay very high.

By contrast, the lower half of mens jobs require a certain strength, stamin, skill, danger, and risk. These require a certain skill set that is rarer than the "just show up and dont be crazy" requirmeents for woemsn jobs, whch means they are going to pay more comeptitiely.

Eventually, when the economy completely crashes, the ONLY jobs that other people will pay anyone to do are jobs requiring so much fucking edeucation, skill, strength or expertise that only men can ophysically do it, or are autistic enough to get invovled with. Almost all women will be doing unpaid or almsot unpaid domestic type labor.

>>516079119 (OP)
Damn maybe a 4 year break on your resume to jack off online doesn't sound too appealing for future employment.

Whores deserve poverty, that way the whore prices are kept LOW.

>>516079119 (OP)
when a man earns more than a woman, the man should pay for the date
when a woman earns more than a man, there will be no date

>>516079119 (OP)
If a woman wants to go on a date with me I charge $100 pre sales tax. After sales tax its more like $105.60 per date. She also has to pay for her dinner while I pay for mine. Time is money and if you want me to take any time out of my life to date then you need to pay me $100 for taking my time to baby you and sit you down at a resteraunt while you complain the whole time. All this other shit about dating I don't care about as long as I get paid in the end. Had sex a few times but I found out money is much better. BTW boys since women are shit at their spending habits look at where they are spending their money and invest in it before the holidays then sell around the 1st week of December to make some bank. Lulu lemon is a good example.

>>516086107
>The data literally accounts for full-time work.
no it does not. the data disregards the amount of hours worked. women work less, and that's how they arrive at the "wage gap" by not telling you this fact. in reality, as I said, women make more per hour for the same job men have, despite being less qualified with less seniority.
get your facts straight you brainwashed fuck.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Men should pay for dates

You say that like men haven't always payed for dates one way or another.

>>516082419
Is that Britain or somewhere in Europe?

>>516097412
I hate havin to go to lunch on job interviews. Hire me or don't but who says I want to share a meal with you.

>>516086107
>The data literally accounts for full-time work.
here let me explain this another way...
they count how much money women work IF they worked full time. then they compare to how much money men work (men typically work far more hours, working overtime. women typically work fewer hours than a full time job)
then they compare the amount earned by a woman who would work 40 hours per week (even if she actually hadn't) to a man who worked 40 hours plus overtime, and come up with a "wage gap" because the earnings of the woman are less.
you're literally ignoring the fact that women are lazier and get paid an appropriate amount for the hours they work, and that studies have shown that if anything, women are often paid slightly MORE per hour than their male counterparts on an hourly basis for the same job.

>>516082795
You had a dysfunctional family, didn't you?

>>516079119 (OP)
Lol no, she should be paying for my share too. Or better yet, she should be cooking the food herself, to showcase her cooking skills.

>>516107821
It's funny how the people who work in jobs that keep the world turning are made fun of by white collar workers who write a couple emails and attend a zoom call or two every day. These do-nothings have an inflated sense of importance, they truly believe they are more important and deserve more compensation than people who actually do difficult and skilled work.

>um, actually, collecting this data and organizing it is very important because

Shut the fuck up, retard. If the garbage stopped being collected every week, the world would plummet into chaos. If you suddenly found yourself without electricity, you're whole life would be over. If there weren't people treating the water you drink, you would be dead within a week.

>>516109843
>you're
your

When I was in SEA I never paid for a meal on a date. I am spoiled now. And you're telling me not only can I not split, but I have to PAY???? Fuck you, bumbaclot. There are women in the world that treat me well and if a woman doesn't then I don't want anything to do with her.

>>516079119 (OP)
The only black women I've worked with in tech are always kind of retarded and terrible at their jobs. When hiring decisions come down to my team I've exclusively hired white dudes, simply because for every group of applicants the best engineers are always white men. I wouldn't know otherwise though because I throw every Indian or resume with pronouns in the trash.

after being a sex haver for 15 years with relative easy access to women, I can comfortably say that I fucking hate them to the core of my being, and the fact that I want children terrifies the fuck out of me.
I have not yet met one (1) woman worth cohabitating with. They are all worthless, lying, cheating holes; and I've been both the cuckee and the cucker. They are absolutely slimy when lying to their man when I'm around, and it has happened to me as well.
You just can't win. I'm pushing 33 and my last ex royally fucked me over to the point where I'm afraid of commitment.

>>516103222
You torrented ant documentaries?

>>516093691
>women
not even once.

>>516110168
the ones i had i seeded, if that's what you ask

>>516094523
someone post the follow-up

>>516079119 (OP)

Wait, what happened to all of that women are outperforming men, going to college more et cetera shit? Can you dipshits keep something consistent for goddamned once? OP is a massive faggot

>>516079119 (OP)
>28
>bogged
>angle faking
no thanks, old used up whore alert

>pay for dates
Ok, we'll go get coffee. I'll spend a good $10 in total probably. You want anything more you can fuck off.

>>516080003
>>516092198
>>516092457
>>516093033
>moms condition their kids
>ready to have daddy take care of her
>condition their kids
Totally not a jobless kid student living with parents. "No I'm not gonna pay for the date... I don't have a job"
>>516105276
>she will just view you as another kid to raise
The person being asked if they'd pay for a date is a kid

>>516082373
>they want to be treated as equals?
This is the fun part. Women expect every single facet of society to treat them like equals, EXCEPT for men in the context of romance.
They've spent the last half dozen decades telling men that women are equal, treat them like you would a man, respect them as your peers, BUT WAIT NO NOT ON A DATE, NOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CHIVALROUS AND A GENTLEMAN AND REVERT BACK TO OLD SCHOOL MORALS!!!!
Stop giving a fuck what women want or think. Do what you want based on what you think, and a woman will either accept it or she won't. This is the key to being good with women. If they like you, they'll do whatever you want. If they don't, they won't. So stop caring.

>>516079119 (OP)
Women should be virgins.

>>516079119 (OP)
Why do you guys preach about gender norms needing to come back for women but when it comes to men suddenly the norms are outdated.
Genuine question?
If shes the home maker and you’re the provider, why do you have such an issue providing a meal?

>>516099579
she did it wrong but i guess at least she tried

>>516111587
I think that's exactly what everyone means
>She wants to have a normal human male/female dynamic and be the woman when I am the man?
I got the bill no problem don't even think about it
>Want to insist control-equality at every possible juncture and give me responsibility with no corresponding respect/authority?
Cool but pay your half

>>516079119 (OP)
I will lay for A (singular) or 1 (one) Date. After that unless I'm shooting in her guts I'm on to the next one.

Corrective rape is the name of the game here

>>516085532
>>516089203
You have no sex.

>>516082419
>>516079119 (OP)
Seems like a troon

>>516092702
Doesn't work here, euro guy.

>just take her out on a date dude
no
>but you'll miss out
i dont care
>dude you wont get laid
okay

>>516111730
Except thats not how you guys act, you guys freak out at every woman about this.
And its a first date, you have no authority lol.
I always paid for the date because wtf it seems insane to me to be so stupid to think she would be fine with that.
Shes the prize
You probably pursed her to even get the date, you even taking her out is a win she didn’t have to let you have.
You’re the male, you are competing with other men.
If you don’t pay for dinner the next guy will.
I just don’t get it

>>516096134
Taking sexual handouts as a man is just pathetic. Same as guys pushing aka begging for certain sex acts form women taht aren't into it. Its humiliating.

>>516094671
>He's surprisingly mature at handling it since he's a virgin

Why owuld being a virgin make a difefrence in this equation? He had his first experience, its pretty normal that tha ends up kinda shakey. He now can move on and do better with the next chick, and most importantly take a betetr woman.

Also he opefully has some male friends to clue him in that men chacse sex, womane chase relationships. If you as a men inituiate faggy taölks about "getting serious" and speak liek a woman in full slut avoidance mode ("I don't want anything casual") you are taking over the feminine part of the relationship and denying the woman her desire to "capture" a desirable man who doesn't jump into her lap like a little boy to his mama.
The only women who find that attractive are the "I'm ready to settle down now" desperate retards. If you want to attract proper women, act like a a man, not like a girl.

>>516080124
The flaw to the narrative about the pay gap is that they dont remove married women, who get pregnant and dont come back, from the stats. If you compare never married women to men, women end up being paid more.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Women are paid less than men while working in the same professions while having equal or better experience/skills/educational attainment.
Who cares? Are they doing a better job? If so, don't worry about it. In a free market, no business would take on the inefficiency of paying incompetent workers more when skilled workers are willing to work for less, and if they did, they wouldn't remain competitive.

>>516111936
Whata bunch of simp garbage, you should be ashamed.
Also dinner is if you want to treat a logn standing gf, not for women you barely know. You go for something noncommittal, like Beer and Döner or some table tennis at the park or whatever.

>>516112083
>women should be traditional
>its being a simp to be a traditional man
You’re retarded and will die alone still crying about girls

>>516111587
Norms are outdated across the board
You want men to have the money to fully provide for women, then they can't be in the workforce because that caused wages to stagnate
If you want gender norms at all women have to take the first step, but as always they want to have their cake and to eat it too

>>516111936
Not asking for authority, nigger, you're being disingenuous because you know what I meant about how relationships go these days
A big problem is princess attitude these days and everybody knows it. Most of you are so hyped up on feminism and modern media that you are too drunk to estimate the actual prize you are.
>I could just go with somebody else!
Yeah, everyone knows. You're a woman. Go do it if you object, twat, I have value and standards too.
I've never had problems getting dates, I've had problems being able to respect women after getting to know them closely. The feminism shit on Instagram has poisoned most of you beyond any help.

>>516079119 (OP)

This is simply an indicator that the economy is doing worse, most jobs women do are bullshit jobs with no economic function, sometimes only a bureaucratic function.

Remember, Trump always lies that the economy under him is the best America has ever been.

Governments have incentives to underreport and as almost everyone's pensions are in the stock market nobody wants to deliver the bad news.

Women tend to occupy useless jobs, so if their wages are declining, companies are simply not making enough money to keep hiring women in useless positions.

>>516080003
You don't need to go on expensive dates retards. Ice crean dates are $15 and walks through a park or near the beach are free. This is why your unlovable virgins.

>>516083269

This sounds like a silent economic decline. Most jobs women do are service jobs and women often get promoted to managerial positions. If you surround yourself with intelligent women you often miss out on the fact that the vast majority of women aren't so sophisticated, but will get pushed through for promotions. The fact that the mythical wage gap is growing is a sign of an economic downturn.

Also, if women become more economically dependent on men, then men are more in a position to negotiate and can demand not to pay.

>>516092378
"Good eating"

>>516112437
Just pay for dinner, why are you crying about it.
She doesn’t need to let you take her out, you know that right? She literally has 10000s of guys she can give that privilege too instead.
It’s the way it is but she is the prize anyway you look at it. Theirs a reason double the women on the planet are in relationships compared to guys.
>how is that possible
Duh some guys are eating real good with a roster and i can assure you they don’t throw a fit about just paying the bill.
It just seems insane to me to beg a woman to go out than cry when she looks at you to pay the bill lol. Like you know she could have just not gone

>>516092457
>as a woman should be treated
I don't ever think women "should" be treated with such submissive behavior (chivalry is how one treats a social superior), but if it's effective for you, go for it.

>>516112594
then she cackles with her coven about how you were a cheap prick who took her on a walk like a dog and never talks to you again.
I've literally had women fuck me all night then sell me the 'I'm in a relationship' spiel the moment they left my car the morning after. They are just nasty.

>>516086107

Tattoos = low IQ.

Big tits = low IQ.

Dumb eyebrows = mental instability.

The woman you keep showing us is clearly just an example of an overpromoted low IQ bimbo in adult daycare.

Intelligent women tend to look and dress like picrel. I see too many low value women in high earning positions they can't handle.

>>516112845
My God this is so self important it is unreal.
Calling it now, you are a liar and a woman.

>>516092378
i could never get it up for pigs and whales

>>516112960
titlet cope. You look like a long haired boy.

>>516092980
Where is immoral emotional?

>>516112992
>self important
>doing whats expected for a man
Im fine with you being worthless bro its less worthwhile competition, keep crying

>>516093691
This is so unfathomable to me. Literal chad in the bag already, but driving into a brick wall at full speed instead of cruising along till the end of the road. Women are truly lesser beings

>>516112845
I'm using the same argument for sex and oral.
never refuted.

>>516092999
They both seem fair. Maybe she should prod more but like she said she is 26 and she has things she wants. Being fun with a fun partner isn't the only thing that's important to people. It also makes sense why the rich guy doesn't like to flaunt it, as this way he can have more genuine connections.

>>516079119 (OP)
>Do you know what this means?
Yeah, they're cooking the numbers harder and faster than normal

Since these numbers never take into account hours worked and only annual salary, it's pretty clear that women force more of a work-life balance into their careers, while guys are willing to sacrifice their lives to support corporate objectives. Women are out competing men for degrees in university, which means that even with women taking higher salary jobs in greater numbers, men are folding themselves into their own coffins in order to keep the system running.

>>516112220
>women should be traditional

Didn't claim that. Women don't need to fire a wood stove to cook meals for ten people , pop out 12 children because half of them dies before 4 years nowadays. They don't need to cart produce to the market, and neither do they need to got to the river to wash everyones clothes by hand there.

"Traditional women" do not and cannot exist, because the society that required them to play that role has been made obsolete through technology.
If you are behaving liek a "traditional man" nowadays, all you are getting is a golddiger who who wants to neet on your dime , because a modern "housewife" does nothing besides occasionally flip a switch on an electrical appliance untli she cheats or starts drinking out of sheer boredom.

>>516112867
Dumbass your supposed to do whatever the fuck you want with women. Yet here you are giving a shit that they didn't like taking a walk.

I have been fucking a twitch e whore in my work place after hours for the past 2 months because I told her I live in my sisters basement and I can't have women over. After I fucked her brains out on the floor I put on a youtube video about world of warcraft and had her watch it with me.

You faggots are fucking retarded and care too much about what women and people think of you.

> i go on dating apps
>mostly fuck holes in their 40s because dont want my life ruined with child support
>stock opener. literally 1 line of text. not sexual
>general light hearted conversation
>slowly drop hints about sex
>careful not to get myself banned by prude cunt
>if shes into sexting. give my number so i dont get fucking banned
>start texting on SMS
>organise meet for drink near her house
>ask her straight out sometimes "will we have a fun time if we meet"
>have fucked 10 holes in 18 months
>some eventually want to be girlfriend
>not falling for that again
>repeat
>

looking for nasty whore to pound at the moment

>>516095221

Glad I'm over 6ft tall then, wait... Everyone is over 6ft tall in the Netherlands, even the women. XD

Anyhow, the only women those men get to date are the mentally ill ones like picrel. Those women actively make your life miserable, so many just opt out of dating altogether.

>>516113403
>i demand women be traditional virgins
>okay so be traditional and just pay for the meal you asked her out too
>wtf i better get a blowjob
Your hopeless