Thread 516104243

Russian embassy explains the truth about the Holodomor.
This truth is banned in the west, they do not want you to know this.
You should read it, it is very enlightening.

>>516104243 (OP)
Im not reading all that shit

>>516104354

Mutt not literate?

>>516104243 (OP)
I don't fucking care about socialist coping that their system is shit and starves millions

It's not like anybody blamed the state. They blamed the bolsheviks in the positions of power in a few departments.
So why would the present day Russians prostrate themselves to cover their crimes? Could they be the dog with two tails?

>>516104875
Russia is trying to say that it was the fault of communism as an ideology, not bolsheviks, because Russia is still ran by descendants of bolsheviks and there is clearly no famine, in fact Russia is doing great.
So it is not that bolsheviks were bad, they were the most patriotic patriots who ever lived, it is just that communism is a bad system

>>516104243 (OP)
if only the czar knew what the boyars were up to..

>>516104243 (OP)
>Ummmmm so there was a mass starvation
>and uhh some hohols died I guess....
>but we Russians suffered WAY more, like 6 gorillion deaths goyski

>>516105437
I'd say that makes them bad. One is responsible for where one puts their loyalty. If their system killed the kulaks, they shouldn't have had that system that helped them in the cities at the expense of those in the countryside.

But of course a goal was to eliminate the kulaks.

>>516106280
You don't know history, because that DID actually happen with Destalinization and further liberalization ever since then
In fact, communism was destroyed not by popular unrest but by their own party elites. I bet you didn't know that.

>banned in the west
Why do you keep repeating this weak russoid cope every time you create this thread? You will never understand "the west" does not ban information like yours even when it's obviously false. Unlike your weak shithole that bans the truth.

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>>516104354
Tl;dr we dindu nuffin, at least not intentionally
Wouldnt be shocked if they denied the existence of lazar kaganovich next

Pure drivel. It was a genocide because Ukrainians resisted the collective farming system. Kill yourself shitskin.

>>516104243 (OP)
Now let them do the jewish holocaust.

>>516104243 (OP)
>This truth is banned in the west
The west tells you to shut up about it because talking about a genocide other than Holocaust could threaten the jews' power

>>516108201
https://forward.com/fast-forward/197664/holocaust-deniers-in-russia-now-face-five-years-in/
Anon, you didn't think ...?

>>516105902
sounds familiar just like their WW2 nonsense that Russia suffered the most when the war only touched 10% of their territory compared to the front crossing the entirety of Ukraine, Belarus, and Baltic SSR's multiple times

>>516104243 (OP)
>"People in the (Ukranian) countryside starved while the people on (Russian) cities did not."
>"But it wasn't targeted genocided!!1"

>>516104243 (OP)
Most people here already knew this. I was waiting for some new bombshell. Disappointing

>>516109062
its not what it says but nice try

>>516104243 (OP)
>8. Deliberate intentional starvation
The way this work is that its "an accident". But they knew what the eventual outcomes would be of ruining the systems around the food.

>>516110846
bump

>>516106493
I know there was destalinization. But it still sucked, which is eventually why it broke up (not Reagan saying "tear down that wall" gimme a break.) Why did it take them over 50 years to figure out that "I pretend to work and you pretend to pay me" isn't a great system?

RE was selling all food
USSR did same
RF doing same

>>516113310
I think now we can say that communism had the fairest of fair tries. If it couldn't work even in USSR, a country blessed with plenty of farmland (Ukraine oblast) and high intellectual capital, it just doesn't work.

>>516109062
Actual Ukraine where people weren't almost 100% indistinguishable from a Moscow resident was ruled by Poland at the time.
Stalin had no Ukrainian "nation" under his control to genocide back then and as pointed out he did not hesitate to do it to Russian or Kazakhs or even Jews if necessary.

It's clearly a Bolshevik on Slav crime, but the West and Butthurt Belters (including Ukrainian nationalists) have twisted it into something it is factually not to sustain their "Russia bad" doctrine. Ironically the descendants of Bolshevik Jews who are living in the West now are pushing it. Of course it's not a Jewish crime but a Russian one.

>>516104580
fr but also how can you be a farmer and let some asshole take your food and send it to the cities. like if youre literally dying and let some guy take your food and then you keep growing more thats your fault

>>516104243 (OP)
>The farmers starved
>The cities did not
And where did the cities get their food from?

>>516104243 (OP)
you can tell israel is mostly inhabited by russians

>>516113715
Brown hands typed this post.

TLDR Jews playing the victim card

>>516104243 (OP)
There was no source sited no proofs given. And ineptitude while governing causing mass starvation is still Government enforced death. Kill all jews.

>>516113715
Slavs are bolsheviks, you stupid faggot. Putin is a Slav and his father was a cook for Lenin and Stalin
Russia is ruled by non-communist bolsheviks and it is the most nationalist country in the world

>>516114087
The original Bolsheviks during the civil war were clearly overwhelmingly Jewish to the point it was clear the Soviet Union would never have existed if there were no Jews in Russia at the time.

>>516113510
>be russia
>95% illiterate mud-dwelling peasants
>after a civil war, begin a massive, completely unprecedented, state building project
>20 years later, the worlds premier military power asks your race to move over
>lose 30 million people, taking down 3/4 of theirs in the process
>be U.S
>richest country in the world
>an ocean away from every theater in history’s biggest war
>lose 500,000 people, a port 4,000 miles away, and a few shacks in the Aleutians
>meanwhile, your industrial power is unscathed and now unmatched
>europe is in ruins, so, after some wheeling and dealing, obtain very “committed” allies on your new arch enemy’s doorstep
You’d think russia would’ve ended there, especially considering how communism doesn’t work, but surprisingly, they competed with the most powerful entity in all of history for about 2 decades, and only collapsed after another 2 decades.

>>516114285
Fuck off faggot. If there were no jews the revolution would only have happened sooner, Russia would win WWI, and Putin would be president in 1980 already, winning the cold war

>>516107705
>lazar kaganovich next
Qrd

>>516114508
>4,000
Scratch that. It’s 2,500

>>516104243 (OP)
All it says is we dindu nuffin and we wuz da real victims. Typical of ziggerniggers

>>516104243 (OP)
Also doesnt say that the parts in russia that had famine were with large non-russian minorities like Tatarstan, who had grain confiscated to where? Thats right- to Russian majority territories.

>>516104243 (OP)
Now do the holocaust

>>516105437
its clearly says that poor management was to blame, my retarded slavnigger brother

>>516117286
Yes, poor management of communism, not bolshevik leaders being malicious

>>516105437
Hahaha
>it wasnt the jews it was communism
>now that we have censorship we can say such things without being corrected

It was standard practice for bolsheviks to use aliases.

>>516106280
Thak God those commies fall and based kulaks were back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushchyovskaya_massacre
>b-but it's different
No. You can read tsarist minister Alexey Yermolov and his thoughts about kulaks.

>>516104243 (OP)
Of course the famine wasn't intentional, and it was widespread. Hohols act like they were the only one starving to death and other republics were eating panini con la carne della dupa hoholina. In reality almost every region got hit.