Thread 516105546

There is wisdom in trying to convey what a whole politic is about in as few words as possible:

>Theocracy, putting religion first.
>Fascism, putting the state first.
>Anarchy, putting the individual first.
>Libertarianism, putting personal freedom first.
>National Socialism, putting the race first.
>Monarchy, putting the aristocracy first.
>Zionism, putting the jewish people first.
>Communism, putting the revolutionaries first.
>Primitivists, putting the ecology first.

In each of these systems the economy and the many various institutions will be bent towards serving the needs of this first principle. Whenever there is a conflict, the needs of that one thing that is valued above all else will go first. In a theocracy everyone has to be part of the state-approved religion and other concerns come second and the economy and so on can't usurp religious obligations. Under fascism the state is everything and the people are expendable and you are not to question the state. Under National Socialism the race is everything and religions and government and economy and so on must protect and improve the dominant race.

What type of government you live under is determined by culture more than anything else. For example a National Socialist state is maintained by everyone sharing the same racist ideals and thus keeping the politicians in check, keeping the merchants in check, keeping the priests in check, etc. The power of a politic is in everyone modifying their own behavior and activities to serve the political model.

America is currently under Zionism; that is very clear, but with the exception of monarchists which are completely dead in America and primitivists + anarchists who aren't seeking power at all but rather the destruction of any kind of large-scale system; all these other factions exist and are competing to usurp the zionists.

Which politic are you rooting for to win?

>>516105546 (OP)
Whatever hurts the rich, politicians and kikes the most. I want their blood to pour like rivers down America's streets straight into the gutters.

I'd like the libertarians to win, they're the only actual "American" group you've got there imho.

>>516106262
You can add other groups as long as you can identify the core principle around which they are organized.

Like if you want to know a libertarian's stance on anything at all you always just ask the question "how does this effect my personal liberty or the liberty of other people" and you get your answer. Everything is argued from that framework. The libertarian can reach same conclusions as people in another framework about what must be done but the reason for them doing the thing is different. Like a National Socialist might be thinking about his race but the libertarian will be thinking about his personal freedom and both end up happening on the same idea about what must be done.

>>516105546 (OP)
Anarchy
National Socialism
Fascism

>>516106726
I like National Socialism and Libertarianism and have some Primitivist leanings.

Anarchy is pretty okay too I like a lot about it but I think there's some need for collective action, collective responsibilities, etc. as many things are best addressed by the individual but some things are better handled by a state and so sometimes the individual isn't always best for solving everything.

Also fascism is just an awful ideology. Would recommend you read Julius Evola's critiques of fascism. If you really want to defend fascism go ahead but consider Adolf Hitler's words here in the quote in my picture. This is directly a critique of fascism. Adolf Hitler would never put the state over his people, the state is just a tool, a means to an end. That end is the race.

Also anarchy and fascism are directly opposed to each other, anarchofascism would just be a person who wants to use anarchy to create a fascist state, which would be very likely as anarchy does tend to collapse into totalitarianism pretty fast. Usually any ideology that has "anarcho" prefixed to it, they are using anarchy as a means to transitioning to their preferred model, aka anarchocommunist, anarchoprimitivist, etc. none of them are true anarchists. A true anarchy is no police, no state, you just handle everything yourself. If a crime happens you have to hande it yourself. If you're killed your friends/family got to go avenge you.

>>516105546 (OP)
Theocratic monarchy. Materialists will cry, but this is the natural state of mankind

>>516107511
What kind of monarchy are you going to create and how are you going to form an aristocracy or which aristocracy are you going to have lead everything and how are you going to deal with nobles that are geriatric or retarded? Also what religion are you going to impose on everyone and does it not bother you that when a state enforces a religion many will not truly believe but rather be hypocrites?

Also what does materialism have to do with this? I'm an idealist and don't want a theocracy at all. Monarchy could be good, John Alan Martinson Last Bastile Podcast 51 makes a good case for Monarchy, but all the current monarchies in the world are shit and need to be canned because too much jewish blood has poisoned them.