Thread 516124284

I'm an evolutionary biologist with a background in population genetics, and after almost 20 years of studying human genetics, I can affirm that there is no such thing as a "white race." It doesn't exist as a stable or viable biological entity in any kind of serious scientific discussion.
So I ask: What other kind of definition do you suggest for Europeans?

I've also noticed that those who most strongly defend this false notion of a "white race" are Americans and the British diaspora in general, and those European countries that are most culturally subservient to the US and most subservient to its culture.

Take for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWZ_YVHmJao&t=1s

Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel.

>>516124284 (OP)
post your tiny hat and big nose

>>516124284 (OP)
Exactly. They pigskin disgusting lazy racist racist freaks who think they should be earning more money despite not doing anything and living off government moneys. But I still want to live around them.

>>516124284 (OP)
White race is a grift by murican mutts, it doesn't exist. Saying they're american isn't enough so they try to attach themselves to european culture like a parasite.

>>516124284 (OP)
>What other kind of definition do you suggest for Europeans?
You want a label but one already exists. What exactly are you asking for?

>>516124284 (OP)
>serious
Even in your gay little larp thread you had to include this self-conscious modifier haha. Kys

>>516124284 (OP)
WHITE MAN, FIGHT BACK.

>>516124844
Based.
I have been saying this for years.

>>516124284 (OP)
>What other definitions would be valid instead of "white"?
This is not an easy question to answer. Because not everything you imagine can or should become what you imagine it to be. So if it is not correct you might as well not say it. You don’t know yet. You don't know yourself. If you are an upright primate, your name is much like your territory. You can go anywhere but you are still you if you can in-fact be that identity. It is not something entirely determined by biology. The purpose of annunciation is not taxonomy. There is not an equation to tell you what everyones' name is. Genetic sequencing is actually just a comparison to reference populations from an earlier date. Your genes only say, you are you and some one else may be similar, but it does not say what that is or identify it by its true essence. We decide what that is, and we can decide not to decide. So acquiring a name is much like building sovereignty through trust and cooperation, and in many ways the two are indistinguishable. Knowing the complexity of this relationship is understanding its power, because otherwise it would not matter, yet it does. In a way, it is the definition of power, or the way in which that definition arises. Like the resolution of an image; to know its true name is to see it most clearly. And much like the resolution of an image we can describe the dynamics of systems in the same way. You will acquire your name through the interactions and relations brought about by the harmonious resolution of relationships. Identity is identifying that, and therefore identity has a very physical and mechanical occurrence where meaning becomes apparent through the completion of process. In this system the least meaningful outcome is one where nothing happens at all. Identity is the happening happening.
https://x.com/ErectusRex/status/1844176291538628921

>>516124284 (OP)
>What other kind of definition do you suggest for Europeans?
adolf called them aryans.

>>516125072
THE WHITE RACE LIBERATED YOU FROM AZTEC SACRIFICE CANNIBAL CULTURE. YOU SAVAGE IDIOT. CHOSE 1 OF 3 FOR ETERNITY BITCH!

>>516124284 (OP)
ok I'll bite. Show off your awesome population genetics skillz. What races do exist? What's different about whites from other races?

>>516124284 (OP)
You're making a semantic argument, not a scientific one. And if you're making a semantic argument, you don't care about truth but perception and a political goal instead

The Interdisciplinary Handbook of Perceptual Control Theory: Living Control Systems IV
>http://library.lol/main/4184c010f714e98128231752b3eb83a2

Autopoiesis and Cognition: The Realization of the Living
>https://monoskop.org/images/9/9b/Maturana_Humberto_R_Varela_Francisco_J_Autopoiesis_and_Cognition_The_Realization_of_the_Living.pdf

Principles of Biological Autonomy
http://mechanism.ucsd.edu/~bill/teaching/f17/phil204A/readings/Varela%201979%20Principles%20of%20Biological%20Autonomy.part1.pdf

Those people were Spanish, you don’t get it. I can say I’m Polish, Slavic, and Eastern European because there’s common history, society, and language. What do my people have in common with "white guys" from New Zeland?

>>516126591
imma bad sniper >>516126083

>>516126083
>Chile
>Aztec sacrifice culture
Do muttoids really

>>516126014
But that's 1 of 3 main component. WHG, EEF and IE.

>>516125072
>>516124844
>White race is a grift by murican mutts, it doesn't exist. Saying they're american isn't enough so they try to attach themselves to european culture like a parasite.
If we want to be a bit more charitable in understanding the cause of this problem it would be unreasonable to expect the language of identity to remain totally intact under such conditions. It's like checking the oil and air filter when first troubleshooting a car. The language of identity is indication of what is occurring below the scenes. We found the error. good job

>>516127233
I see where you are going with this but it is truly is not necessary when natural language is already a function of anatomy, and it is the language of identity that matters in this circumstance. the media is the message

>>516124284 (OP)
i think european is okay while also being specific in where from europe like nordic, anglo, slavic, etc

>>516124284 (OP)
Nice fake and gay AI image

>>516127233
>WHG, EEF and IE
so here is the reason why I consider this less relevant. To apply the analogy in the video to human populations we would assume that the coyote and the badger have developed a natural language adaptation.
https://youtube.com/shorts/3LIRfXCJLoQ?

>>516124284 (OP)
>I'm an evolutionary biologist
No you aren't
>After almost 20 years of studying human genetics
Didn't happen
>I can affirm that there is no such thing as a "white race."
You are jewish

>>516124284 (OP)
>What other kind of definition do you suggest for Europeans?
not-a-nigger
here you go buddy, you are welcome

>>516124284 (OP)
Is "Caucasian" no longer acceptable?

>>516128518
it was probably always like that

>>516128880
>not-a-nigger
yeah this is the apophatic method. It is like the brute force method. pure negation. This is what you name a thing only when you can't know what it is. If this is true then the available action is to stop using the incorrect name. Controlling this is outcome is almost more important than knowing what the name is. You have to arrive at 1 definition. This is why mocking someones name is so insulting.

Why not look at the milk/lactaze gene. Apparently 80% of jews don't have that, for example.

>>516128945
Only if you want to artificially group European populations with those of India and the Horn of Africa and the entire clinal gradient between them.

It's obviously not valid, and I've only seen it used by Americans and Canadians.

>>516130536
give us a good historical example that you approve of

>>516124284 (OP)
Human Speciation is desirable.
You, are not.

Insane and dangerous second hand Para-religious universalistic dreams of human unification, cannot be accepted by any rational society.

You need to be immediately secluded and hospitalized right now.

>>516124284 (OP)
>I'm an evolutionary biologist with a background in population genetics, and after almost 20 years of studying human genetics, I can affirm that there is no such thing as a "white race." It doesn't exist as a stable or viable biological entity in any kind of serious scientific discussion.
youre a cowardly faggot nigger
>So I ask: What other kind of definition do you suggest for Europeans?
literally whats the point of being "a biologist" if you dont give a shit about the truth, just go get an easy job in industry

>>516124444
fpbp

>>516124284 (OP)
> I'm an evolutionary biologist with a background in population genetics,
Look up the Alpinides

>>516131173
I don't have one. Maybe I should use a deme for the European population, but you have to come up with the name yourself. That's not my problem. Europeans need to develop their own concept that includes their entire genetic history, from the Paleolithic, through the Neolithic, and when they genetically stabilized in the Metal Age. It's full of principal component analyses that can help you find a more inclusive or exclusive definition depending on what you're looking for.

Obviously, "white," "Caucasian," and "Aryan" are not valid.

>>516124844
Burgertown is such a dysgenic stew of miscegnatuon that the concept of whiteness is purely relative; who is "white" depends entirely on who is in direct vicinity and "whiter"

E.g. this man is white... 50% of the time

>>516124284 (OP)
obviously Whites are different species

but to play your games we could say being White means having non-poo colored skin, eyes and hair

When you leave a group alone for few thousand years then a new race will form. Race is developed from genetic anomalies that from only during complete isolation. Epic there is even one other race nearby that mixes then no race will develop. This is why there will never an "American" race even in thousand of years and why a "Palestinian" race never developed. They will only ever be nationalities that it. Take a DNA if you are "Palestinian" and it will say Egyptian or Iranian etc. All the European groups were isolated long enough to be different races the languages different develop until a millennia later.

>>516131239
I don't want the genetic diversity of human beings to be eroded as it was with Native Americans because of Europeans. I'm simply stating the facts that the definition of "white" has no solid genetic basis, and for the interests of Europeans to remain alive as a genetic unit and not suffer the same fate as Native Americans or Neanderthals, they should discard this term, which is more harmful than beneficial in the long run.

For them, I suggest inventing a new term in line with the advances in genetic knowledge we have in the 21st century.

>>516132104
>non-poo eyes and hair
Most people south of Holland don't.
>skin
If someone has Addison's disease or vitiligo, they're not white. Great.

If you browse this board you should be old enough to know that genotype =/= phenotype.

>>516124284 (OP)
irrelevant. i'm only white because my enemies claim that i'm white. trying to confuse people isn't going to work here because the antagonistic left will continue to try and make life worse for "white" people

>>516132200
Europeans north of the Mediterranean are genetically nearly identical to one another, descending from the same 3 Neolithic populations (Anatolian/Early European Farmers from the Middle East, Yamnaya from Eastern Europe, on top of European hunter-gatherers). The percentages of these 3 differ merely by single-digits.

Which is why DNA tests undergone by anxious nationalists are such a meme. Their world collapses when they realize they are genetically identical to their biggest enemies, something obvious to any outsider.

>>516132813
And all of those 3 component came from the same branches. The genetics of Europeans stabilized during the Metal Age. Take the Basques, for example.

>>516131934
It is really only necessary then that we bring this error to their attention as an error. The name itself is the responsibility of whoever controls the attention to language. However this insanity can go on for quite a while. There are many high functioning schizophrenics. Also, if my government requires me by law to put a check mark next to my assigned color, then we have a separate problem that may not be entirely the cause of a person's willful actions.

So perhaps I am suggesting that kind assistance to your neighbors could be warranted. like an enhanced form of assistance

>>516124284 (OP)
post a picture of your nipples in a well lit room right now. race is a real thing youre just a nigger who wants to be a part of the white culture

>>516133141
What is a good source to learn about the genetic history of Europe? And what are the most common misconceptions, would you say?

>>516124284 (OP)
Pure Germanics/Nordics are the real Aryans. You were taught pseudo-science in your liberal college. Evolution isn't real. God is and Jesus Christ is His Son.

>>516124284 (OP)
>evolutionary
"evolution" is a jewish psyop
>>516124284 (OP)
>I can affirm that there is no such thing as a "white race." It doesn't exist as a stable or viable biological entity in any kind of serious scientific discussion.

Then what is this in the picture?

>>516124284 (OP)
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>>516124284 (OP)
Imagine being wh*te lmao

>>516124284 (OP)
>What other definitions would be valid
>muh valid definitions
never mind if someone is 1/16th native american or a sugindese or whoever, but can we have a civilization of people who can wipe their own asses for at least another few decades?

>>516133741
But let us not forget the other flag he uses

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/Actual%20biologist/

>>516124284 (OP)
>evolutionary biologist
Shieet, now dass whdaicall a real basedence.

>>516133741
>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/white%20race/country/CL/type/op/
Who the fuck cares. Not everyone is on here 24/7, you NEET. It's good to have a quality topic instead of endless necrofellatio of Charlie Kirk.

>>516124284 (OP)
Oh, fuck you. Neanderthals in right proportion. Sub-saharans, polynesians and semitic subhumans lack it

>>516132813
>heir world collapses when they realize they are genetically identical to their biggest enemies, something obvious to any outsider.
yeah this is prevailing trend persistent everywhere. The Greek city states are a prime example, but also where you find this competitive behavior among these ancient Greeks you also find the wisdom to love their enemies as a component of creation.

Hating your enemies is sort of like hating the danger of an adventure and this was obvious to the waring Greeks. Does a mountaineer complain about the danger of high altitude mountaineering. Yeah some of them do and they sound retarded

>>516133514
It is a bit old (2007), but it is interesting to see how genetic studies evolved from that base in the first decade of this century to what it is in 2025.

"The Horse, the Wheel, and Language" by David W. Anthony.

Also, "Who We Are and How We Got Here" by David Reich. I know this American Jew isn't very well-liked, but he has good style.

And I have been reading "A Short History of Humanity: A New History of Old Europe" by Krause (2021).

>>516133716
My mom's grandpa looked even more Asian than the guy in the middle and he was pure-blooded Flemish for centuries according to genealogical records.

So this usually the ranking right:
Nordic
Romance
Slavic

>>516134767
greek (extinct), english (extinct), russian, german, no one else matters

>>516124284 (OP)
Anglo-Norman.