Thread 516559483

but at least we got a charlie kirk holiday :)

>>516559483 (OP)
>TRUMP SAVE US
It never gets old lmao

>>516559483 (OP)
Why should US farmers be allowed to waste land growing food for our adversaries? Get them growing other crops.

>>516559637
What crops could they grow to replace 3.16 billion of onions beans china was buying

>>516559483 (OP)
I tried to tell farmers they shouldn't plant onions beans this year and they told me I was being silly. Boomers just can not listen.

A few bankrupt farmers is a worthy sacrifice for not releasing the Epstein files.

>>516559483 (OP)

American farmers have not been allowed a free market in generations. They are a weapon of the US state department. They will go from being completely subsidized by the American government to being completely subsidized by the American government. The biggest change might be they grow something else.

>>516559637
Such as?

>>516559483 (OP)
grow other crops?

>>516559483 (OP)
Not my problem

it's soiver

>>516559892
Boobao..

>>516559483 (OP)
>our farmers are doomed
Total agribusiness death. Traitors don't deserve sympathy.

We had the great famine, but did we have the greater famine?

>>516559763
lmao anon has no answer to your question

>>516559483 (OP)
Based basedboys

>>516559637
>>516559763
>>516559766
>>516559823
>>516559872
HAHA MORE CORN FOR CORN SYRUP

>>516559763
>>516559766
... there are still people getting hit by the filter. Jesus Christ.

>>516559763
Doesn't prqxtically all of asia consume estrogen beenz? I'm sure we could work something out with vietnam or japan to atleast recoup some of the losses.

>>>516559483 (OP) (OP)
I don't give a single fuck if American farmers stop feeding our enemies

>>516559763
Passionfruits or Rhubarb.

>>516560254
Corn for the Diabetes god.
Rotten extremities for the syrup throne.

>>516559483 (OP)
art of the deal

>>516560471
The filter works for everyone, retard. Do you think the mods selectively apply it only to certain IPs?

>>516559763
>What crops could they grow to replace 3.16 billion of onions beans china was buying
They turn it into grazing land for grass fed cattle. Then turn it into cheap housing.

>>516559483 (OP)
Watch them destroying all of them rather than sell it cheaper.

Americans will forcibly have to eat all that so.y.
Better restart Beyong Meat plants.

>>516559637
To sell it? capitalism?

>>516559763
Well, we could use lower bell pepper prices.
Maybe some garlic. I could use more minced garlic for cheap.
I don't know, some onion, I use alot of onion. Lower the price on that.

If you are not getting the hint, they could increase production of just about all our food staples and thereby lower prices.

>>516559483 (OP)
Best China for the win

>>516559483 (OP)
during his first term we had to spend ~30b printing money to keep farmers from going insolvent when he had his china tantrum, and that in his last year. i'm thinking we can hit triple digits this term

>>516561155
And then we've got this dumbass who completely missed the point.

>>516561382
Have you forgotten covid when farmers decided to destroy the extra food than sell it cheaper?

>>516561365
Capitalism: China doesn't have to buy, you go bankrupt, liquidated for cheap, given to some Gen Z farmer to have a chance at a better business model.

>>516561467
Wins what, toxic GMO garbage? The US forcing nations to buy the science experiments it passes off as "food" is nothing but extortion

>>516559483 (OP)
why would he? be a good GOY and go bankrupt

>>516561605
they are still buying it which BTFO of the shitty dishonest lefty propaganda itt

>>516561595
Farming is betting they bet on being able to sell their product to china and lost on it because of unpredictable outside factor. They lost now they need to sell their lands to Microsoft for another AI server farm

>>516559483 (OP)
>destroy farmers
>force them to sell the land to big corpo on a discount
didn't this happen to the dutch?

>>516561237
you would use land with good topsoil for freaking housing
why

>>516561590
That happens every year. The government literally pays farmers to grow things just to throw away because they need them to have jobs just to pad the numbers.
>>516561588
>a hurr durr, you didn't bother to use a copypasta to circumvent the filter? a durrrr, what a pleb

>>516559763
>Onions
Go back to plebbit tourist.

>>516561590
No.
Which is why I have no pity.
They can grow useful stuff or go broke.

>>516561237
>Turn your arable land into cheap housing for niggers
Confirmed American. Thank you for your service

>>516559763
Tobacco, potatoes, and grazing land for herds of sheep and cattle.

>>516561155
>Defending a newfag tourist
You're pretty stupid eh?

>>516559483 (OP)

FARMERS

ARE

THE

BIGGEST

WELFARE

QUEENS

>>516559483 (OP)
>No more onions
GOOD

>>516559763
they could grow food americans eat to make it cheaper for americans

>>516559763
>Oh no the most subsidized crop in the country is not being sold anymore!

Don't worry they can buy from us.

>>516561921
You let yourself get hit by the world filter without a hint of irony, durr what a fed.

>>516561798
And that was (((their))) plan all along

>>516559483 (OP)
Good fuck them, our economy shouldn’t rely on bugmen to survive

>>516559483 (OP)
WHAT PART OF SÖY BOY BETA KEK DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
I VOTED VERY SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS

>>516561743
no it's not lefty propoganda
maybe the media is overhyping it but what happened is that every country in the world has bumper crops there's just way too much food grown, it's never happened like this in a long time

so China can just buy their shit from brazil and american farmers don't have buyers for now and need to lobby for a bailout

>>516559763
Weed unironically

>>516559483 (OP)
Feed it to the cows. Makes them fatter. Like it does to people.

>>516559763
3.16 billion is literally nothing in the sceme of the American economy.
Might be a lot to a bong but companies you've never heard of break that annually.
It's a drop in the bucket, and estrogen beans are the most subsidized crop in the USA anyway.

>>516559637
>>516559763
Maybe they could grow some of the expensive things that we are paying so much extra for. Like beef or eggs etc.

>>516562220
Bankers are the biggest welfare queens, then the people directly under them with access to the money printer (a very large percentage of the wealthy are thieves). Farmers a little further down.

>>516562524
there's just no more tegridy in the world for that.

>>516561743
Yes they bought like a business buys protection services from the Mafia

>>516561605
>Muh GMOs are bad bc plant rape or something
Explain why they are bad

>>516562498
>every country in the world has bumper crops there's just way too much food
Every country but America. The US has been a net food importer for almost a decade

>>516562220
being a major food exporter is very important in geopolitics. not long ago the US could use it as leverage against China.

>>516562915
How's the weather in Tel Aviv memeflaggit?

>>516559483 (OP)
onions beans

>>516563007
The US is a net food importer though

>>516562984
the US imports finished processed food products but is a net exporter of basic commodities that haven't yet been processed into slop

you have to read into the numbers a little

>>516559483 (OP)
Maybe they should try growing some real food instead? Try potatoes, everyone eats potatoes.
>inb4 "too many potatoes!"
Baked potatoes for every hobo in the nation, then. Make it happen, why wouldn't you? It's better that the fields run fallow? Fuck you.

>>516559763
They could grow the opium poppy that the US used to grow in afghanistan during the occupation

>>516563111
there is already a market developed for potatoes anon

supply chains are carefully built over decades and trump just fucked them american farmers royally

>>516559483 (OP)
>Oh no my entire multi million dollar business is going bankrupt because i only have a single buyer!
Skill issue.

>>516562593
>3.16 billion is literally nothing in the sceme of the American economy.

Not the only product and the only country though is it. So far responses I've had is grow weed, more bell peppers, potatoes, garlic, more cattle (is the land even suitable and how would more impact profits), cheap housing, more corn. Its not looking great is it. When these countries have started sourcing from elsewhere, why would they ever come back if the quality and price is good (which it will be), those trade agreements and routes will be established and hard to get going again. There are also other opportunities that haven't been explored. This is bad news for the US

>>516562257
FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THAT SHIT YOU NAZI FUCK.

>>516563375
>JUST SELL IT TO AMERICANS BRO
if americans were buying it they would already be selling to them

trump is fucking up the american economy royally and people are celebrating it

>>516563375
The price will be cheap and the quality will reflect that.

>>516560254
>>516561073
cornsyrup is being phased out now though from rfk and trump.

we are all going to die of malnutrition......

>>516562257
americans already have more than enough food than they need

you should read what a market cap is before giving your stupid ass opinions

>>516559483 (OP)
too many cow farms were burned down. so replace them. and increase chicken farms.
actually decent crops would be rice and potatoes. (still not as good as beef) soibeans wouldnt be that good for us.

>>516559483 (OP)
NOOOOOO

THEY CAN'T SELL TO AMERICANS

AMERICAN FARMERS COMPLETELY RELY ON CHINA

NOOOOO

>>516563651
If I was the president I'd conquer mexico and breed your women.

>>516559575
Did we really? Is it paid?

Sorry Farmers, we can't bail you out. That would be socialism. You all didn't vote for that. Enjoy your dust bowl and famine. We TRIED to warn you.

>>516563739
>>516563742
there's no point in selling more food to americans if you're already at market cap

you retards have absolutely 0 understanding of how trade works

>>516563794
why don't you stop your school shootings first?

>>516559483 (OP)
To date not one onions farmer is doomed.

>>516559483 (OP)

I guess....I guess you have to eat all those beans by yourselves....healthy but farting food....hahahha

Not to mention the crops going to waste now that they defunded USAID and the school lunch programs that the government BOUGHT farmed food for and kept these US Farmers employed.

We warned them. They didn't listen. You chose MAH BIGOTRY. Now you get to enjoy the suck you created. Don't wish for rain on others property because yours will flood first.

>>516559483 (OP)
Practically, how has this affected your daily life?

>>516563912
I'd start by having an all white police force minimum 110iq

>>516564130
I don't know about you anon but I never look at an intelligent person and think
>that intelligent person should be a cop

police is literally by definition a low IQ violent prone job
cops are not your friends and they aren't obligated to risk your life for you

>>516564046
Get a job nigger, no one wants to pay for your 4 bastard niglets. You had children so raise them.

>>516559763
almonds

>>516559483 (OP)
3.16 billion isn't that much.

Datura

>>516564255
Your vile mayan human sacrificing faggot self would cower in fear and rot in a cell screeching like a monkey

>>516559483 (OP)
SNEED BEANS
ESTROGEN BEANS ARE FOR A*SIA

TRY GROWING SOMETHING AMERICAN INSTEAD

>>516559483 (OP)
>US loses trade war
>Trump will agree to all Xi's terms and will have no tariffs against China
LMAO!

>>516564255
I could open a zoo of mexican criminals.

>>516563802
its fucked up, it replaces saint george floyd day

>>516561590
>Decided
That's been federal policy since FDR

>>516564340
Fuck off, jew. Almonds, pistachios, and alfalfa are destroying the southwest.

>>516564466
>>516564517
you won't do shit nigger

>>516559483 (OP)
I wouldn't be surprised if Congress passes a bill to buy crops off the farmers to store them somewhere. Fucking griefters. They should pull themselves by the bootstrap and find another job.

>>516559483 (OP)
How come soi boii is still censored this is not free speech

that money would have just gone to Israel anyway

>>516564650
>be relying on trade deals that existed for decades
>someone arbitrarily comes and destroys your job
>IT'S THE FAULT OF THE FARMERS

>>516564640
wait and see

>>516564650
there's a cheese cave in missouri that has 1.4 billion pounds of cheese
i'm not kidding look it up.
1.4 billion pounds of cheese

free market republicans from red states apparently votes this in shrug

>>516561938
You need to lurk for two years before posting

>>516559483 (OP)

So the 3.16 billion in basedbeans China buys from somewhere else aren't available, and the people who used to buy the basedbeans China is now buying can buy them from US farmers. What's the problem? Notice how they're not saying NO ONE is buying the basedbeans, just that China isn't buying them? This is one of those (((true))) headlines meant to completely misrepresent what's going on. It's Jewish trickery, nothing more.

>>516564614
IT TAKES THE ENTIRE WATER SUPPLY OF COMMIEFORNIA TO ACTIVATE THE ALMONDS

WOOPS NO WATER *MALIBU BURNS DOWN*

>>516564122
It bankrupts farmers. They were eating good... now they wont be. Direct fuck around and find out consequences of choosing a morally bankrupt and literally corrupt person as revenge to minorities who they feel wronged them and stole their opportunities (that they'd never have in the first place).

MAGA wanted a revenge tour for Obama and chose to burn the world they live in apparently.

>>516561832
Corpos already own that land. There's essentially no small time farmers left in America yet laws are still written like it's 1800 and the average farm is 200 acres owned by a family of six, hence why farms can employ six year olds to pick tomatoes, because the laws are written like little Timmy helping dad in the field, not little Pablo helping Ernst Goldberg lower labour costs by paying a child sub-minimim wages.

>>516564893
having a surplus of something isn't a good thing dumbass
especially of food

now you either have to sell it at loss or let it rot
enjoy your vote

>>516559637
This. They knew in advance that there were going to be tariffs and they still put those in the ground. They need to sell to Americans at a discounted rate. Supply and demand

>>516564832
>Two more weeks!
Your hero was literally executed and you did nothing.

>>516564122
how do gays having sex affects your daily life anon? you support gay marriage then?

>>516564650
Lol nope they kill that with USAID and the school lunch programs they hurt when they let Elon go crazy with his chainsaw.
We were already doing that. But NO MAH SOCIALISM... the right shot themselves in the foot while they were busy playing with their guns.

>>516565007
You could always squash the prices of surplus food to increase consumption.

>>516565039
nope
trump said he'd get a deal where america would be selling to china and he lied

>>516565118
>just give up your profits bro work for free!

and who is going to pay for it anon

>>516559483 (OP)
Are you saying farmers are asking for a refund?

>>516565123
I mean America outselling Onions to China is a pipe dream... That's where Basedbeans come from!

>>516559483 (OP)
Shouldn't have gone all in on soƴ

>>516565042
lol
lmao

>>516559483 (OP)
Grow food Americans want to eat instead of importing brown people to grow food for chinks

>>516559483 (OP)
China figured out something bad about basedbean produce.

Stop eating it.
Immediately.

>>516565170
Prisoners... Pick food for free!

>>516559483 (OP)
Maybe stop cash cropping and farm real good?

>>516559483 (OP)
Incentivize and educate on small scale domestic animal farming. We can turn all that soi protein into delicious animal protein and make good money doing it right here at home. If you have a 10x10 back yard you can keep 6 chickens easily.
Bring back local produce houses and people will have a place to buy and sell live chickens, hogs, and cattle and to buy their meat. It was the government and their aggressive overregulation that destroyed that entire industry and handed it all over to the Little Rock Mafia.

>>516565123
SELL TO CHYNA

CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING
GLASS CHYNA

>>516565309
they don't eat all that onions they feed it to pigs

>>516565296
americans already have all the food they need
this is foreign trade money which is now lost forever thanks to trumo

>>516565312
>keeping prisoners is free

stupidest post of the day

>>516565007

But it's not a surplus, that's the point. the headlines are just that CHINA isn't buying beans. The beans they buy elsewhere were beans someone else was buying that China had to outbid them for. US farmers will now just sell their basedbeans to the people who got outbid for the beans China is now buying. How is this that hard to understand?

>>516565239
Remember when there was an assassination attempt on Trump and nobody did shit?

>>516565426
if they were outbid by china that means they are paying less for them now

you still lost

>>516559763
chard, beetroot, tobacco, pumpkin, corn, actual onion, garlic, sunflower, rape, or Bill Gate's GMO redy-vaxx-plants

>>516559483 (OP)
Time to pick a better crop.

>>516561590
They didn't DECIDE to destroy it, the processing plants were closed down and they had no place to go with it. You can't just snap your fingers and open a cheese factory or a dried potato flake plant.

>>516559637
they grew basedbeans because it was the most productive utilization for their land, not because they were doing charity to china nor anyone else
>our adversaries
you don't have any adversaries, you are a worthless NEET or wagecuck who will never be relevant

>>516561595
yes trade collapsing is a common side effect of implementing tariffs like a nigger

>>516559483 (OP)
This is what happens when farmers produce stuff people dont need.

>>516563603
Corn for your car

>>516565589
the problem is who are they selling it to nigger

>>516565644
china was paying for it though
I thought you guys cared about the working class?

>>516564614
i'm literally just buying californian almonds in bulk because every single one is an entire GALLON of ground water permanently removed from the land.
>not my problem

>>516559483 (OP)
shouldn't have banked their crops on an enemy of our country

>>516564832
Based blood eagle enjoyer.
Good for traitorous politicians.

>>516565407
Not free in terms of security but cheaper and more stable than a workforce that can be deported any time. Farms and prisons can meet halfway.

>>516565520

No it doesn't. It just means China paid more than the old buyer. That has no bearing on what the old buyer would now pay US farmers for the crops. Even if it were less, the US heavily subsidizes agriculture. I don't support agri-socialism, but because of it this simply doesn't matter. It's a kike headline designed to undermine nationalist trade policy by insinuating it's bankrupting farmers, which it isn't.

farmers don't actually have to make money the US prints money for the entire world
they can sit on their butt get USDA bail outs that are printed and continue to vote

none of this is free market or whatever but it doesn't matter

>>516559483 (OP)
is China the only other country in the world?

>>516565792
no they banked on trump getting a deal and he failed

>>516565432
it's all theater

>>516565850
>China paid more than the old buyer

YES SO THEY ARE MAKING LESS MONEY NOW THANKS TO TRUMP

thanks for proving my point

>Trump gets elected
>Deports migrants and does tradewar
>Achieves TFD (Total Farmer Death)
>Has to do massive farm subsidies to try and pull out of tailspin
>Biden elected, undoes Trump policies
>Trump runs again
>Farmers overwhelmingly vote for him again anyway
Zero sympathy. At a certain point it stops being voting for the 'tigers eating other people's faces' party and turns into 'reelecting the tigers eating my own face' party. Hope they get a decent buyout offer from Gates/Black Rock/Monsanto, but yeah no more farmies for you.

>>516559483 (OP)
Good, onions turns you into a tranny faggot

>>516565042
>literally did nothing
we're dismantling you faggots like any other insurgency
>1. remove funding
>2. disarm
all these people who got fired cannot buy a fiream

>>516565870
Don’t feed commies

>>516559483 (OP)

they can't afford to import anything anymore lul tell me how that's a bad thing for America.

>>516559763
Mayonnaise beans or more trees to pick carrots from.

>>516559763
the CIA had some great ideas they discovered in Afghanistan and Colombia.
>you will live to see the rump of globohomo turn into a cartel state

>>516559637
You know that you can't live off of soya right?

>>516559483 (OP)
>vote for stupid economic policies that fuck themselves over
>Ahhhh government please help us please subsidize us!
Explain to me how farmers aren't an enormous parasite class

>>516561467
you know that's 10 billion usd over 4 years and op is 3 billion usd in one quarter, right?

>>516565697
THE ONLY REAL PROBLEM WITH CORNAHOL IS ITS HYGROSCOPIC

RETVRN TO TRADITION

>>516559892
>Ghislaine Maxwell.

god almighty, where is all the porn she must have made ?

>>516565407
>noooooo we need to import foreigners to grow food to sell to foreigners
Nah. China is in a tailspin and it’s probably too late for them save themselves

>>516566075
>they can't afford to import anything anymore
they're buying gold

>>516559483 (OP)
All part of the plan. Should our farms go under, Gates, Bezos and Ted Turner will still be happy to sell you food. You just have to sign this code of conduct and install this app on your phone

>>516566159
They grow your food

>>516559483 (OP)
Chinese communism so fucking based.
There is no way a capitalist country could resist buying american SOIIbeans at scam prices.

>>516559483 (OP)
Where is the starvation i was promised, chuds?

>>516566159
they love voting against their own interest.

>>516563050
>Dodges question
>Accuses me of being a Jew
Figured. Hate to be that guy but I am actually educated on GMOs and environmental science in college.GMOs aren't a problem the problem are pesticides

>>516566229
Clearly not, since a bunch of them are apparently going to die if they can't ship their crop to China. Again, I don't even necessarily have a problem with that, except that these farmers overwhelmingly voted for the policies that are now killing them. FAFO, as far as I'm concerned.

>>516566075
I'm pretty sure that's not it

Oh no, will it affect the number

>>516566378
no they'll get a bailout
their guy they voted in will vouch for that
i doubt any of them will get substantially hurt

>>516559483 (OP)
>America turns into a revolving door of bailing out failing industries using tariff revenues
I'm sure that'll be more devastating than a consumer economy dealing with trade deficits

>>516566445
and who will pay for the bailout?

>>516563573
Literally not my problem. It's an executive problem and an illegal problem. Us in the middle were getting fucked anyway so eat shit, faggot.

>>516566392
And a bunch more of them are tending to maize, wheat, pigs, cows and chicken

>>516559483 (OP)
Fuck (((farmers))) who grow and sell mono crops and who also sell to foreign markets. They all deserve bankruptcy. I have zero compassion for someone who views growing food as a commercial (((business)))). Every single American should be a farmer, the (((market))) and all trade should be outlawed.

>>516566454
you know there's no tariff revenue if they aren't exporting right

>>516560471
why should I be deterred by it? everybody knows what I mean. desu onions baka

>>516566445
but thats... SOCIALISM...

>>516566539
>Mexican intellectual

>>516559763
They could replace it with being executed for treason. I don't give a fuck about people who view food as a way to make (((money))).

>>516562598
>they could grow some of the expensive things that we are paying so much extra for. Like beef or eggs etc.

Lol, lmao. Oh yeah thats what we need, a bunch of retarded tractor drivers trying to raise laying hens and cattle on a commercial scale for the first time. I'm here for it, bird flu for everyone!

>>516565946

Oh, you're retarded...

>>516566564
No
it's only socialism if someone I don't like does it

when stock market crashes all the free market libertarian chickenshits are the first to beg for a bailout

Onions bean is a sacrifice crop retards you literally plowed into the ground and grow something actually worthwhile.

>>516562598
you know USA imports beef because it's very expensive to raise it right

>>516562220
yes, because the food industry helped the US maintain a lot of power.
globohomo is dumping Ukrainian food that's not subject to regulations on the EU to replace their agricultural industry with that of the US. so if the Euros ever bitch and moan the Americans can just cut off the food and starve them Venezuela-style

>>516566673
if your highest buyer backs out are you getting less money yes or no nigger

>>516559483 (OP)
THEY DONT LIKE GOYBEANS
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA HOLY LEK

>>516566692
theyre so unintelligent it hurts.

Bailouts for me but not for thee... just like free speech.

>>516559637
I like for Maga people keep flirting with centralized planning but the irony is their too stupid to see it

>>516566736
>you know
>right
Yeah it’s a Redditor

>>516566867
reminder that conservatives don't even have free speech for themselves since they can't criticize isreal

>>516562220
Real.
Worst part is they all LARP as salt of the earth that bootstrapped themselves.
"I got 1,000 acres under production, except for the 550 that I inherited I bought it all myself with the help of government subsidized loans."

Chicken farmers employ illegals by the bus load.

>>516564732
>this is not free speech
4chan isn't the government anon

>>516559483 (OP)
I love me some basedbe𝖺ns

>>516559763
actual good crops that dont deplete the shit out of the soil. endless fields of so y and corn isnt smart agriculture its complete nonsense. almost anything else is healthier, provides better yields without destroying the soil and needing a ton of water.

>>516559483 (OP)
OH NO NOT THAT
NOT THE SUBSIDY BASED BASEDYYYYY PROPPED UP BY TAXES

basedbe𝐚ns
basedbe𝕒ns
basedbe𝗮ns
basedbe𝘢ns

Soƴbeans

>>516567358
if they could've, they would've. Why you non-farmers questioning what they grow isnt the most cause effective/profitable?

>>516567358
ok but who is going to buy that food

there's a specific onions market for a reason nigger

>>516566658
thats retarded. the problem isnt that they view food as a way to make money, the problem is that instead of trying to make money they aim straight for subsidies which make demands of what they will grow.

the big farmers are all in it for gibs and nothing else.

>>516559483 (OP)
Oh no, the price of goyslop is going to go down we’re doomed.

>>516567715
yeah they make money because there was a buyer for it and trump fucked it up

>>516566808

Let's say China was buying a widget from you at $100. But now they're mad at you and won't buy your widget. So they go buy a widget from Brazil for $110, but had to outbid Indonesia for that widget, which was paying $105 for the Brazilian widget (their widgets are more expensive). So China is paying 10% more for the widget now. Indonesia, meanwhile, that still needs a widget, sees that the US has a widget availablle for $100, so they buy the widget from the US for $5 less than they were paying Brazil for a widget. Explain to me how in this scenario the US widget producer is losing money? Because this is exactly what's happening with soibeans. China is paying more for food while US farmers just sell to different buyers. Again, how is this ruining US agriculture?

>>516567650
>monsanto is fine because it sells well
Fuck off.

>>516567650
I own a farm. the big farmers cant because of subsidies which in order to get they must agree to grow what they are told to grow and sell it for the prices they are told to sell it. which undermines all smaller farmers. fuck if they werent so laser focused on sucking the gib teet they could stop growing crops that we dont need and turn that land into cattle pasture and unfuck meat prices.

>>516567358
Ackshuly beans fix nitrogen which is why it's rotated with corn. Maybe alfalfa, which also fixes nitrogen, since we export tons of that grown in the fucking desert so reason.

>>516567851
simple, there isnt a Indonesia in your metaphor. China is a big player. Nobody else needs that many basedbean.

>>516565042
>hero

You dipshits have no clue.

He wasn’t (((our hero)))
Charlie was a middle of the road, Regan style Christian republican, who committed the “crime” of invading the liberal safe space of universities and who had the audacity to actually debate them and defend his principles on their “turf”

The apolitical and normies can all see that.
No matter how many times you scream that he was a Nazi, his words and actions say otherwise.

You defined Nazi as anyone who doesn’t agree with globohomo, so the vast majority of people are Nazi now….
Good job, William Pierce

>>516567972
>the big farmers cant because of subsidies which in order to get they must agree to grow what they are told to grow and sell it for the prices they are told to sell it.
I dont see how you can blame the farmers for this, obviously this is how the game is played in the US.

>>516559763
Sugar beets.

>>516559483 (OP)
>Get what they deserve award
Kek

>>516567851
Because in your scenario, you missed something: Indonesia would pay less for the US widget because there is less demand for the US widget overall because they got locked out of a major part of the market for widgets (China).

So, overall, China would pay more for the widget, and the US would get paid less for the widget.

BUT, the effects can be much more dramatic if, say, China was a humongous part of the market for widgets. I'm not aware of basedbean demand around the world, but a quick google search tells me "over half." That means the amount the US will be able to get for its own basedbeans will be drastically reduced.

>>516567807
dishonest fucks dont deserve to make money. there is a lot of retarded shit going on in big agriculture which shouldnt be happening.

>>516568015
I know you like to fantasize that this is the case, but most people don't know Charlie Kirk and the most visible thing about him right now is the President and the VP pitching bitchfits about him

>>516559763
>what crops could they grow
Grass.
The true agricultural powerhouse.

>>516567851
>>516567851
>Indonesia couldn't outbid china but they can buy from Brazil for more expensive money

your example doesn't make any sense
if Indonesia can buy from Brazil at 110 why didn't they outbid china to buy from USA in the first place?

>>516568457
tbf international trade isn't exactly a perfectly fluid market and there's other considerations (shipping costs) so there's lots of reasons why things might not be arranged optimally

>>516567986
I might be mistaken on this but Im pretty sure faggot beans dont work like other legumes. regardless, corn is a retard and wasteful crop.
>>516568105
its not farmers. its "big farmers". and yes the problem is the way this country has handled agriculture for decades. but those big farmers are part of the problem no one forced them onto the subsidies, it was of their own accord, same mindset as the vaxxies.

>>516568715
yeah it's the fault of the farmers for voting for trump I agree

>>516568715
>and yes the problem is the way this country has handled agriculture for decades
this was a problem before 2016 how?

>>516563912
>muh school shewtins
Arent there literal dead beaners hanging from overpasses all over your biggest cities lol? Mexicans are so retarded man hahaha where did all the mexican intellectuals go after 2016?!

>>516568005

Yes, China is a big player that can buy at bulk discounts. But when they displace other buyers from a supplier, it's not like those other buyers just say "OK I guess we're not eating this year guys". They will find available soibeans, which the US has, and buy from the US. This is exactly what's happening right now. Again, the headline does not say farmers can't sell their soibeans, just that China isn't buying them. They're still selling them, because Indonesia and Japan and Vietnam and Korea and al the rest still have to fucking eat. The headline is designed to make you think farmers are going belly up, which simply isn't true. It's a propaganda ploy to try to turn public opinion against trade protectionism. That's it.

>>516568214

There's not less demand, though. There's the same demand globally for the same foodstuffs. What difference does it make to Korea or Indonesia if the cargo ship set sail from Seattle or Santos? They don't care, they need the food and will buy it from whoever has it to sell. You're just shuffling who buys what from whom, nothing more. Soibean consumption isn't declining. If China wants to pay a premium to exclude the US from it's food supply chain, those buyers crowded out then come to buy US soibeans for around global average prices.

>>516559483 (OP)
Nobody wants our Roundup sprayed shit.

>>516567851
so in your fantastical scenario, demand on a certain price is infinite
therefore no matter how many trade partners you lose or miss out on, you are never affected because there will always be someone else to buy the same volume on that exact same price

truly amazing

>>516559763
I guess they'll just have to sell the basedbeans to cattle ranchers instead. That might even improve the meat supply and reduce the skyrocketing cost of beef.

>>516561467
>lower food safety to appease the US

lol?

>>516568981
there are beheadings and people shot in schools in your country bro lol

>>516564640
Oof he made you mad and you couldnt help but show it :/ fuck you gon do about it timmicito?

>>516568992
and Indonesia and Korea already have sellers fucking retard

the only way america can win them is buy killing their profit margins

you lost

>>516565042
>your hero
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LEFTISTS HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>516559763
welcome to the globalized economy chud

>>516569041
if it was profitable they would already be doing it

>>516565576
> rape
We don't need anymore canola

>>516568015
Actually I call people Nazi that impose their dark fascist will from a populist on others and round up the disenfranchised group of a specific background/creed into camps/prisons. I'm pretty specific about it. He's literally learning from the only reading he has done, from Hitler to repeat history. He's a Temu Hitler and ya'll are pretty happy being Nazi. Its disgusting. We all have relatives who fought and died against fascist Nazi bullshit for some uneducated idiots who just want to openly hate bring it back because MAH TV STAR PRESIDENT IS LIKE THAT TOO

>>516569063
Arent there dead beaners hanging from your overpasses daily and turtles walking around with severed heads glued to their backs? Lmfao dont college kids get abducted by the literal busload and are never found again in mexico? What the heck is that all about timpito?!

>>516563912
It must suck being an unemployed slave, you have to beg the first word to let you back in.

>>516569045
Gross but better than killing each other...

>>516569318
>y'all
every single daggum time

>>516569318
Who cares? You won’t do shit timmy haha

>>516559766
They didn’t take trump seriously. Now they are stuck and with a ossicle republicans edge in this fall elections.

>>516569216
Slavery is also profitable

>>516569347
>college """""kids""""

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHSHSHA

>>516568320
> fantasize

The only fantasy here is the thought that you could ever be a woman.

When normie people see even the most middle of the road, center right republicans get demonized until they’re assassinated by some furfag, there’s bound to be a backlash….

Don’t be shocked, you have been warned for years that you were boiling the frog too fast and he’s going to jump out….

>>516562220
Corporations can't be that far behind either.
Imagine all the SNAP money that goes to Coca-Cola and Nestle. People wouldn't buy their products in the first place, now they set the prices to what they want knowing people have SNAP to cover it.

>>516569603
Coumo is an example of You could die the hero or live long enough to end up the bad guy. He was a true hero on the student loan crisis issue as AG. But man he fell.

>>516569482
You aren't Southerner either, lol

>>516559766
You are going to see a lot of cheap onions bean oil in everything

>>516569018
american education really shows here on /pol/, especially the MIGA crowds

>>516569557
MAJOR cope lmfao. Your kike lady president has taught you well hahah remember when lil spiccies literally voted for a female kike to represent them? What the heck!?

>>516569603
Eh was also a troon goon

>>516559763
Corn. They just rotate between corn and basedbeans anyways
>t. knower

>>516569318
>from a populist
Bernie was a populist. I know you're trolling but this is an extremely inconsistent world view.

>>516559483 (OP)
Time to uproot the §0y and grow real food
We don’t need to feed the Chinks.

>>516559483 (OP)
>Grow food to feed another nation than your own.
>I'm expected to care about your tears when that other nation decides it doesn't want it any more.

Oh shit did you put all your eggs in a foreigner's basket, farmer John?

>>516569216
It is profitable. It's just not AS profitable since the Chinese demand for sóy is so high compared to ours. I'd expect the Chinese economy to have major protein shortages next year.

>>516569687
Cuomo is probably the most charismatic, likeable guy democrats have lol. Think about that. Its bleak

>>516569691
I'm so southern my sailfoam autocorrected the anon's incorrect >ya'll to y'all

>>516569711
and your president rapes kids

actual kids not college kids LMAOOOOOLOLLOL

>>516564599
based if true

We can do one of two things.
1. we can subsidize them harder because it's a national interest and won't be that expensive in the grand scheme
2. let many smaller farms go tits up just to have the land purchased by megafarms/corporations/billionaires/Chinese nationals(lol)
We've done the second option most of the time since the 70s

>>516559483 (OP)
FAFO as the boomers say

>>516559763
Cows, I want cheap beef again.

its just one crop you dumb fucks
overall export Q2 of crops is about the same as last few quarters
the only people punished by this are those that don't plant more than one crop,
they deserve getting fucked because of it

>>516559483 (OP)
Good. Fuck farmers. Parasitic class of people.

>>516569791
>I'd expect the Chinese economy to have major protein shortages next year.
oh now its next year? I liked you better when it was just two more weeks

>>516564842
found the election tourist

>>516570010
Beef is expensive because raising them is, not because there's a supply problem.

>>516569822
Holy coperini spicman! Lets see, weve got dead spics hanging from overpasses in mexico city, turtles walking around with decapitated heads on their shells, busloads of college kids getting abducted and disappeared, a female kike as president, a populace so cowardly they are fine with being ruled by and harassed narco terrorists and women so ugly and round it makes indian women look desirable. Did i miss anything? Where do you little mutants get off hahaha

>>516569691
I'm not either. New England is wicked awesome.

>>516564614
>destroying the southwest.
and nothing of value was lost.

>>516569160
> you lost

And you lost the genetic lottery by being born a manlet beaner.

It could be worse, Paco, you could have been a jeet or an abo, so enjoy your huaraches and Latina bund as and be glad that you’re not eating cow shit or huffing petrol…

>>516561300
they don't just "destroy" it, they grind it up and use it to fertilize the soil
if they sell it for cheaper than the equivalent amount of fertilizer then they'd be taking a loss for no reason

>>516570228
Damn you’re unfunny, corny and a leftist. The unholy trifecta of being a fucking faggot lol

>>516559785
kek

>>516569753
Bernie wasn't trying to disenfranchise people who cant defend themselves legally. He is only against the rich, which is fine with me cuz their contributions to the world lately have been LETS FLY PENISES INTO SPACE FOR A FEW MINS...

>>516568105
Then they deserve death.

>>516570578
like charlie kirk

>>516570625
well deserved indeed

>>516559483 (OP)
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJj

>>516559618
>77 million voters
>find a handful who aren’t happy
I know liberals are stupid and dishonest but come on, you’ve been pushing this narrative since 2016

>>516567358
If basedbeans didn't actually fix the soil then we wouldn't be growing them and basedmilk and other garbage recycled trash wouldn't exist. I believe radishes might fulfill a similar function if memory serves, but nobody likes those.

>>516570297
you're just mad you chose to vote against your own interests. Just wait until you lose your gun rights. Now that the orange has begun abusing the military. He won't need you MAGAS to have gun rights because he will be able to use the military wherever he wants regardless of the law. He will use that anti Trans gun proposal stuff to remove all gun rights for you righties too. You idiots unleashed hell on the world. And for what? So you can drop an N word in public when a white girl turns you down for a date?

>>516571205
N...erfballs?

>>516568992
There is less demand in the market the US is selling into. I mean, think of it in the extreme. Let's say that China buys ALL the world's basedbeans. Then it says "I refuse to buy basedbeans from the US". While the global demand for basedbeans in general hasn't changed, the demand for US basedbeans in particular has dropped to 0. That's what is going on here. If China buys up over half the world's basedbeans, and then refuses to buy US basedbeans, then the global demand for US basedbeans has been drastically reduced.

>>516571386
or even Nepotism...

new thread?

>>516571711
N...o

>>516568715
All legumes fix nitrogen. Corn is more of the problem imo. I think we should be growing basedbeans for fuel like the Romans did with olives.

>>516559575

don't forget we created TRANS REMEMBRANCE DAY when a tranny shot up a school and killed little girls - I WILL NEVER FORGET

>>516562220
Nah, they're behind major corporations and banks.

>>516571205
You wont do shit timmy pipe down. I somt vote against my interests i vote against yours

>>516559763
>>516559637
>>516559483 (OP)
TOTAL
ONIONS
DEATHWAVE

>>516559637
>>516559763
Feed corn. Then we increase the cattle herds. Cattle herds are a lot smaller than that should be for the demand. The cost of beef needs to come down. the USA get a lot of it's strength from BEEF.

>>516559787

country will split up - i can always tell when i'm talking to a day trader reddit smart person cause they completely underestimate the people part

>>516559637
>To our adversaries

Meanwhile you don't seem to have a problem with Trump being besties to someone would would love to Nuke us off the planet. Pick a lane, bro.

>>516572590


Sure. Enjoy the way down. I'm just glad I'm from the North east. You idiots kill off your farmers, we have farmers of our own.

>>516573220
just throw a rock at it

>>516573291
But they would have to spend the effort finding a rock. We could give them the rock but thats socialism.

>>516573397
pretend the bell is a black man and its a lynching

nooooooooo not the heckin farmerinos that import massive amounts of illegals because they dont want to pay american workers