Thread 516654082

What the fuck are we going to DO?

>>516654082 (OP)
>he doesn't know
Wait until you find out about "dark debt" and "fiscal liabilities". See that debt they show you? It's just the stipend.
As of 2025, add 133 trillion more.
>but who do we owe this to?!
The IMF. International Monetary Fund.

>>516654082 (OP)
Nothing, the onus is on the debtor to collect.

>>516654825
This. As long as debtor doesnt collect, bank runs dont happen.

>>516654082 (OP)
revalue our currency, then go to war

Keep taking on new debt and pass the problem onto gen alpha and beta to deal with

>>516654082 (OP)

Is America worth saving when everyone looks like this and is retarded now?

>>516654082 (OP)

Nothing because it's a woo woo jew number

Listen. our entire society and world is built around bullshit lies. stop questioning it so much. it doesn't matter. none of this shit matters. none of it matters at all. look at it. you have a beautiful piece of technology in front of you. They're numbers on a screen. That's all they are and they don't matter.

>>516654868
We have zero reserve banking now so if there's any fear of a bank run, the banks simply send their cash elsewhere and open the vault as proof of having nothing to rob.

>>516655106
I say this when I look at my bank account

>>516655221
simply steal the money?

>>516654082 (OP)
We can figure this out, how about this one just spitballing:

End the Fed (burn it/members to the ground) Instate gold based currency. Problem solved imaginary Ursury debt gone.

>>516655281
sir if you did that the entire us economy as well as that of the globe would collapse though

>>516655267
my mom wont let me :(

>>516654082 (OP)
>he doesn't know that the government pays interest to itself.
Burger education for y'all

>>516655267
simply get locked up, retarded kraut?
we all live under surveillance, in police states

>>516655379
american credit card very insecure i hear
at least our entire population's identity documents aren't publicly floating around on the internet

all 380 million
lol it could be so much worse

>>516654082 (OP)
Just borrow more.
Last year the US borrowed 1.8 trillion dollars, of that 800 billion dollars was used to pay interest on the debt.
So what this means is that nothing is being paid. Like ever. This is why the debt grows so fast, not because anyone is being taxed to death to pay for it.
Its essentially a tax disguised as investment. The money comes from pension savings and from surplus private profits, that is company profits that the business class has no use for as investment or for consumption.
The money is given to Vanguard, and they pass it along to the government. The total passings are annotated in a book and this is what you call debt.
Its owed to pensioners and to business owners, of both public corporations and of the "private equity" type (companies that are not corporations) that make more money than they need.
Would it kill them if that money were to not be paid? It was literally lent because there was no use for it. These are excess profits. Profits nit spent on direct investment or consumption, it just gets stashed.

>>516655323
Shucks that would be such a shame, barter is cool though worst case scenario.

>>516655402
Research.
Russia will not assist anyone.
What you use a Russian VPS for is your concern...
Don't break the law. Just saying though.

>>516655429
what are you going to do about all their ssn + id cards being leaked ages ago though
your fintech can't stop the fraud now

>>516654959
You still dont get it do you?
The debt is not real, its ll made up by jews to control your nation

Watch this
https://youtu.be/abP_zo7QTF0?si=RQ0hqKa1I4-TFV1s

>>516655020
This

>>516655397
>itself
That's not how gov't debt works.
>>516654699
>but who do we owe this to?!
Bond-holders. That includes private individuals and other countries (though Asia has been massively dumping their holdings)

>>516655636
https://www.een.com/de/blog/schwerste-verletzung/
there are more after this but this is just a proof of basic concept
i hope you get your daily bread

>>516654082 (OP)
make Indians pay for it lul

>>516654082 (OP)
You could pay it off, going through a lot of hardship for decades even centuries and end up with a middling credit rating.
Or
Don't pay anything, let the jews freak out, renegotiate rates, get some debt forgiven etc and still end up with a middling credit rating. Never borrow money again.

>>516654082 (OP)
Get poorer....

>>516654082 (OP)
The debt and credit are always balanced out, means there are 37 trillion US dollars being credited to the ((())) ones.

>>516655750
>es ist echt
woopsie

>>516654082 (OP)
US citizens hold most of that debt in their 401k's, I'm completely sure that your government will do the right thing by you all, they have shown nothing but love and respect so far.

>>516654082 (OP)
Inflate it away

pay interest to jews that loaned out this money without actually possessing it themselves

>>516655950
>t, means there are 37 trillion US dollars being credited to the ((())) ones.
They are owed mostly to the US business class, of the corporate type and also of the private type (companies that are not corporations with tradable shares). And to a lesser degree to the working class in their pension porrfolios. And then a small amount (a few trillions) to foreign companies.
You know how some say the rich are not sitting on piles of cash you can just take? They are sittings on piles of bonds

>>516654082 (OP)
Once we hit $999,999,999,999,999 it will roll back over to $0, simple.

>>516654082 (OP)
can't they just nationalise the federal reserve and cancel it

>>516656362
>can't they just nationalise the federal reserve and cancel it
Why would the government cancel the scheme by which they fund themselves? Last year they borrowed 1.8 trillion dollars, of which 1 trillion are net borrowing.

>>516654082 (OP)
this is why i debtmaxx

>>516654082 (OP)
Nationalize the FED, print 38 trillion dollars, create a law allowing you to immediately buy back all government issued securities, create a new gold-backed dollar, and you're done. You'll lose your reserve currency status, hundreds of millions will lose their savings, global economy will be in shambles, but you'll be debtless and you should have a somewhat trustworthy currency, since its backed by a real asset.

>>516654082 (OP)
Nothing. Maybe we'll change the dollar sign to something else and reset. It's not even paper anymore it's a few 1s and 0s on a hard drive.

>>516654082 (OP)
I know if one country invades another country then they have to pay the invaded country's debt but what happens if a country goes through a messy civil war and fractures into micro nations, does the nation with the largest gdp/ military/ industry inherit the debt?

>>516654082 (OP)
>What the fuck are we going to DO?

Create a stablecoin, push everyone into it and then do a rugpull. Tank the stock market at the same time to wipe out everyones retirement accounts.

>>516654082 (OP)
You don't have to do anything.

The national debt is just a record of money the government has spent into the economy that it hasn't removed through taxes. Public deficits are private surpluses.

If it really bothers you, bring the interest rate below the growth rate or start running a large enough trade surplus with the rest of the world. But because the logic of double entry book keeping is iron, not everywhere can always been in surplus. Assets and liabilities zero out. So if you have a trade deficit, logically the only place a budget surplus could come from is private sector deficits -- you have to draw down from the public. That's how the Clinton administration caused the dotcom crash.

We should blow it all up and start over

>>516654082 (OP)
just relax you fucking idiot you can't pay off the debt or you destroy the economy

We should keep telling jews niggers Mexicans and Asians they all belong here and have control over our country and future

>>516654082 (OP)

What are you going to do?

>Russia breaks out across Ukraine, pushes into Eastern Europe
>Eurocucks panic
>Americans panic
>Without sufficient military personnel, they fall back to wunderwaffe in desperation
>biological, chemical, nuclear, space based
>Eastern Europe gets turned into an irradiated death land which cannot support life for centuries
>Britain is utterly destroyed
>the jews are cast out in wroth.
>a based Germany casts off nearly a century of oppression and rises as the leader of Europe
>USA descends into balkanization and infighting as all the flavours of (((diversity))) tear each other apart

Something like that.

>>516654082 (OP)
take it from rothshilds

>Just keep working for money bro
>Just keep buying stocks bro
>Just keep buying bitcoin bro
>Just keep adding to your pension bro
All those things are going to go down the shitter big time in the coming years and STILL people do it lmao

>>516654082 (OP)
see how quickly we can hit 40! Miga is MMT basically let the goyem pay for it lmao

More tax cuts for billionaires will solve it.

>>516659520
No wait. Raise taxes and give it to niggers

>>516659246
If MIGA was actually MMT Trump wouldn't shit his pants like a toddler when the bond markets acted up. MMT accurately explains that governments do not need to ever sell bonds to finance themselves and selling bonds itself is not a borrowing operation in the first place.

>>516654082 (OP)
Default on it.
Dems tried to channel as much money as possible in their own pockets during their reign.
The Trump/Musk split was a difference in opinion on if it was still fixable.
Trump thinks it's not and tries to ride it out as long as possible.

It's not gold or crypto, that's rising in value: Currencies are falling like a rock across the board, because lefties around the globe are intentionally trying to kill capitalism.

>>516654082 (OP)
Regulate your finanial system

>>516654082 (OP)
Civil war then break up into several smaller countries and then hopefully will be quieter and less faggy than you are now

Tax all non-whites 100k a year to exist. If they can't pay, then deport them. That will fix it.

>>516655693
>That's not how gov't debt works.
Yes it is. At least as a high-level rule of thumb. Government pays interest to the fed, profits from the fed go to the government.

Other factors like private bond holders only become important if the government decides to increase or decrease the rate at which they are borrowing money.

>>516656245
This. Goyimses should know jews ARE very ethical business wise. But also they should know.....like every group has its own standards and rules. Once you know the rules you can "out jew the jew" or what we say: Such a business.

For example: me- jew, my lawyer- also jew. Do I get some "super sekrit jews only rate"? FUCK NO. I have to pay just as much as a non jew. Now do I get a little bit of special treatment? Yes but that is due to merit and him knowing when a kerfuffle happens I had the best intentions but however I know if he finds out I was bullshitting him....hes gonna make me pay out of my hooked nose.

>>516658873
You DO realise thats bad for you right? Like leafland is cucked but its the devil you know. Better to try and make peace and fix things than throw the baby out with the bathwater

Tldr: its clownworld but its still a somewhat reversible clownworld where we can have a sociological reset pre hart celler.

>>516654082 (OP)
I'm going to make more armies and continue to fuck kids

>>516660658

I don’t care. It can all burn. Better that than the alternative. I have land, food, livestock, water, guns, traceables, and am surrounded my like minded white farmers. It will be an exhilarating time to be alive. Perhaps the first time in my existence I truly am alive.

Do it Faggot

Give more to Israel.

>>516660658

>Tldr: its clownworld but its still a somewhat reversible clownworld where we can have a sociological reset pre hart celler.

Anon. Ask me how I know you’re new here. There’s no going back. The demographic diversity alone will guarantee a generation of Balkanized warfare in most places as soon as the USD dies, or the welfare state dries up. The more populous and dense the worse it will be. Your skin will become your uniform.

This truly cannot be fixed. And that’s not the way of nature either. The corrupt and diseased die, and in the space they occupied new life arises. The USA was just the latest host of the jew, now sucked dry and collapsing, like so many others. You failed the test and now you’re paying for it. What comes next will be up to the survivors. And if you’re going to be one of them is up to you.

>>516654082 (OP)
Tax the rich. Thats the answer. Tax their assets. Literally triple the rate. Remove the loopholes. They are bleeding us dry.

>>516660998
Been here since '04. I guess Im getting to the age where the political anger from finally being awake has subsided and I want actual results. Not this "if we just let things get worse hitler comes back" or "we need another hitler". Truth is Hitler (while 95 percent right on everything) did more damage to the white race than any other person. It gave our enemies the casus belli to try and literally exterminate us. Now knowing this, trying the same thing will yield the same result. We need different strategies while using our available resources. A return to pre hart celler isnt an unobtainable ultimate goal for us and our prosperity.

>>516654082 (OP)
Go bankrupt.

>>516654872
Take out MEFO bills

>>516661542
Uhuh.

>>516654082 (OP)
Reprice the value of Governmentally owned precious metals to soak up all the debt.