Thread 516680121

Suddenly Conservatives are against Free Speech

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/19/trump-no-longer-free-speech-00574219

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>>516680121 (OP)
you dont have free speech anyways
you just get auto moderated into a shadow
if you say something slightly true/controversial

>>516680121 (OP)
conservatives finally paywalling speech

Popper's paradox of tolerance. You don't have freedom of speech if people glorify those who kill others just for saying things they don't agree with. We can't tolerate their intolerance or we will lose our freedom of speech.

>>516680121 (OP)
watching trump go full mask off and only watching half of his supporters turning on him is the worst black pill of all time lol

>>516680121 (OP)
You can't burn US flags. Its the same as the screaming fire in a crowed theater. Actions have consequences. Get over it.

>>516680121 (OP)
so he added tariffs on speech now?
what are the rates?
do you have to tip on top of them?

>>516680310
That's true, which is why you threw a fit the 31 last time when it was a conservative that killed political opponents

It was all a leftist biased facade anyway...now things will be even..like it or not...

>>516680455
100k per word

>>516680121 (OP)
I support free speech for people who support free speech
Lefties canceled the right for over a decade, time to reap what you sow

>>516680528
craziest part is you look at all these shooters and its all the same thing
>WHITE PEOPLE BAD MAN BAD
i think peyton garrison was the only recent one who didnt follow that trend

>>516680471
The killing isn't the only issue its the glorification of political violence is the bigger problem. I'm not talking jokes in poor taste either, because that will inevitably always happen, but outright justifying his death and glorifying the shooter.

>>516680121 (OP)
>Trump has given the orders

>>516680765
>outright justifying his death and glorifying the shooter
I have not seen anyone do that for Charlie.
Just in the past by rightists

>>516680121 (OP)
>Trump using the state to suppress leftists and their propagandists
Based. He needs to go full tyrant like Lincoln and start arresting journos for being traitors

>>516680850
>I have not seen anyone do that for Charlie.

>>516680963
So in short, you can't provide any evidence for your claim and all political violence by the right for decades is okay because... reasons

>>516680765
can you quote someone from the media saying his murder was justified?

>>516680121 (OP)
>15 years of suppressing conservative voices, shadowbans, doxxing, and even criminal charges levied for wrong think
>less than 2 weeks of conservatives holding leftists accountable for their psychotic screeching
>itsleover.mp5

Yall are pussy ass bitches. Every one of you. Overly sensitive children, and you'll never be any better or different. Kill yourselves.

>>516681032
https://youtu.be/eJENP0Rr8p0?si=bHzLMOp7nZKS-tk3&t=299

If the jews would only make a deal an end to all lgbt lefty craziness/shitskin immigration in the united states and you can just have all of the israel area including jerusalem and the mount and eradicate the descendants of the philistines

>>516680364
What if there is a fire?

>>516681141
>Jokes are illegal
I always see way worse when a leftist politician is murdered, which is cool.
We've always accepted it as the consequence of free speech.
But sadly the right can only dish it but not take it.
If nothing else, it's just funny seeing how triggered you get when you get the same energy back

JUST DON'T BE THE FIRST ONE TO STOP CLAPPING RETARDS. HOW HARD IS THAT?

Trump is just a puppet sneaking more authoritarianism in under the guise of a pendulum swing

>>516681510
Sorry brudda you can do the whataboutism all you want but we still can't tolerate people who glorify public speakers getting shot.

>>516681103
>15 years of suppressing conservative voices
400 years of suppression, my gawd!

>>516680121 (OP)
>Politico
Into the trash goes the propaganda rag

>>516680121 (OP)
No surprise. Cuckservatives swallow Jew cum.
No, you retarded rightoids, it is not good when ZOG censors “the left”. The same is in store for you.

>>516681032
see here folks, this is why i don’t debate leftists anymore. they’re just a bunch of mentally ill people who will say any lie with no shame, no matter how obvious. if this faggot’s country can jail people for saying the holocaust didn’t happen, then i don’t see why we shouldn’t jail people for telling obvious marxist lies to children and in political debates. we already don’t allow slander, although the punishment for that isn’t great enough.

>>516680614

OMG President Tramp!
>3 more years of milking findom

>>516681703
Yes you can!
You did it the last 31 times when the terrorist was rightist
There's no reason to suddenly stop now

>>516680121 (OP)
>kill someone for exercising their right to free speech
>retaliate non-violently
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN DO THAT. THAT'S FLIPPIN FREEZE PEACHERINO

>>516680121 (OP)
I'm not a big Trump fan, but he's right about this
there is concerted, centralised, organised control over the media

when all of the institutions have been infiltrated, and are being used solely to push a Neomarxist ideology, to bring about an intersectional revolution which frames White, straight people as the new bourgeoisie, calling on people to "eradicate whiteness" (note the lower case), that's functional and effective censorship of free speech and dissenting opinion
they're attempting to foment an eventual genocide to bring about their neomarxist society
it's automatically illegal, because it's treason

the media are now crying out "free speech" after the last few decades of repression, racist antiwhite bias, and censorship?
the left wanted censorship, and now they're getting it
>"n-not like that..."
fuck off and die

>>516681150
jews don’t just want israel though, they want to rule the world FROM israel.

>>516680121 (OP)
Thank G-d criticism of Israel will also be illegal very soon.

>>516680243
No one would pay for media bullshit. No one but mindless retards without critical thinking skills watch them anyway

No conservatives I know support this.
Also I haven't seen any conservative support this.

>>516682288
I wonder what Trump's actual popularity numbers look like if he wasn't cooking the books hotter than Satan himself.

>>516682288
Just look in this very thread and you'll find plenty of conservatives justifying it

>>516682555
and how is it you know they're conservatives specifically?
are you perhaps confusing your imagination for reality?

>>516681082
I can name plenty who have said it was his fault for being killed because of his "hatred", being killed for your speech is NEVER the speakers fault and its against our founding principles to suggest otherwise.
Keith Olbermann is an example of someone who outright lionized the killer and said he was 'just protecting his lover'.

>>516682635
It's kind of antiquated to call loyal trumpist conservatives, as they only believe whatever Trump tell them to.
But yes his voter base does support this

>>516682893
30 + 1 times you ignored the rightist terrorism.
Do you at least concede that you should have cared one of those times as well?

>>516680121 (OP)
>Suddenly Conservatives are against Free Speech
Donald Trump is a Liberal. He's been a dem the majority of his life. Only in the last twenty years has he been right of center, and that is not because hes views changed. It's because left went progressive.

>>516680121 (OP)
>Suddenly Conservatives are against Free Speech
Our values are not your shield.
Stop extending your values to people who don't reciprocate.
If you don't support our rights then we won't support yours.
Simple as.

>>516683113
Show me examples of them cheering for it. I was upset when Don Jr. made light of Paul Pelosi's attacker but Paul isn't dead.

>>516682945
ah, you're a sophist, and not a very clever one
I asked you about the people specifically in this thread, and you're trying to pivot to his voter base?
don't make me laugh

I'll ask you again, and don't dodge the question this time:
how do you psychically know the people ITT are specifically conservatives, to be able to say "look in this very thread and you'll find plenty of conservatives justifying it"?

you do not know their political beliefs, so don't pretend you do

>>516680121 (OP)
Naw this is just the woke right and their jew allies

>>516683113
Show me a single example of a right wing terrorist killing political rivals and being praised by right wing talking heads in the media. One example of someone like Charlie Kirk or Tucker Carlson praising a conservative shooter. Just one.

>>516683233
>how do you psychically know
>psychically
I'm not trying to be rude, but do you have a mental deficiency?

>just donate a percentage of your profits to the turning point propaganda machine for the privilege to speak what your told.
hilarious

>>516680121 (OP)
Hate speech is free speech, communist faggots.

>>516682115
yes, they literally tried to cover the Iryna murder story for as long as possible and they always push an anti-white agenda
the current """media""" has been almost completely captured by radical propagandists and should be treated as such
this is happening in europe too

>>516680364
>You can't burn US flags. Its the same as the screaming fire in a crowed theater.
This is a shit argument and always was.
The origin of 'screaming 'fire' in a crowded theater' was Oliver Wendell Holmes who said a group of Yiddish socialists handing out leaflets protesting against US involvement in ww1 was the same as 'shouting fire in a crowded theater'.

>>516682071
>Someone got murdered
>That means we should shred the constitution!
It's hard to tell if MIGAposting is elaborate trolling or not because MIGA are such genuinely retards

>>516680224
Touch grass

>>516683369
do you?
link me to the posts by people who specifically identify as conservatives

I'm not sure you're quite understanding the nature of your delusion:
you seem to be under the impression you can magically determine whether somebody believes in conservatism
I'm reminding you that this is in your imagination only, and you can't simply decide what other people's politics are for them

>>516680121 (OP)
Thank god this is happening with trump in charge and not Kamala, at least I’ve got a chance under his regime, if lefties were in charge I’d be in the gulag

>>516680121 (OP)
Jokes on you!
NO party is for free speech!!

>>516683451
It is free speech but the glorification of real world political violence can't be tolerated. You can't have a free society when political violence is normalized and glorified. Many African nations have 'freedom of speech' but you are killed if you upset the local warlord. That's not freedom of speech.

>>516680121 (OP)
fuck this erpstein loving kid fucker
ameritards will gladly trade in whatever is left of their freedom as the nazi goycattle did close to 100yrs ago.
history truly rhymes

>>516683276
>praised by right wing talking heads in the media.
Kirk's murder hasn't been praised in the media, it's been praised by random morons on the internet in the same way people on this board made fun of Kirk.

>>516683609
You don't seem to understand the words you're using.
I can't physically demonstrate anything over the internet.
You can start with an English 101 class before trying to have a conservation

>>516680121 (OP)
>Foreigners OBSESSED and SEETHING
>Shitposting on a Saturday night
Sad.

>>516683709
>glorification of real world political violence can't be tolerated.
Under the 1st amendment it can. At least when it comes to the government.
You can lose your job for praising violence but the government has no authority under the constitution to do anything to you unless you explicitly call for it (fighting words for example).
It isn't illegal in America to say '9/11 was a good thing' for example. If it was then every other post on this board would be illegal.

>>516683788
what on Earth do you think you have to physically demonstrate?
you simply were asked to link to the posts of the "plenty of conservatives" justifying it, which you cannot do, because you cannot prove they're conservatives, because you're delusional and only imagined that they were conservative

what a savagely moronic person you are

>>516682023
Yea there is a reason..it's getting rid of you.

>>516683709
based and divine pilled

>>516684031
If you had said 9/11 was a good thing back then you'd have been exiled from society. That was before political violence was normalized.

FINALLY

Ive been saying for years that free speach was gay

Women and browns obviously should require some sort of permit to talk in public

>>516684051
>>516683233
>how do you psychically know
I can't psychically know, I'm sorry this this impossibility triggers you, but I didn't make the universe

>>516684051
>because you cannot prove they're conservatives, because you're delusional and only imagined that they were conservative
Very weak argument. By your own logic it's wrong for anyone to talk about all the leftists praising Kirk's murder because 'how can we prove they're really leftists? We can't read their minds. They might all be Nazis who hated him because he liked Israel!'. You don't believe that for one minute either.

>>516681916
yeah, every time I feel like "ok, this is so obvious and proven that they cant get away with lying about it" they just lie about it anyways.

If you want an accurate description of a leftist, have them describe the right to you. Its endless projection and doubling down on lies.

Trump and Stephen Miller speed running how to get themselves Kirked

>>516684327
Being exiled from society isn't the government though. You can end up exiled from society and that's within the first amendment.
The government punishing you for your speech is all the first amendment applies to. If your boss fires you for glorifying political violence he has every right to do that, but if the government tells your boss to fire you for it then that's unconstitutional.

Its so funny this orange kike pedophile is speed running weimerica into the ground the only thing he has not done so far is throw miggers in the trenches

>>516684555
Public airwaves are not protected by the first amendment and they haven't been for nearly 100 years. People have lost their radio shows for far less.

>>516684388
yes, you can't psychically know
that's exactly right
so when you say:
>"Just look in this very thread and you'll find plenty of conservatives justifying it"
you are wrong, he won't find plenty, and you didn't find plenty

and this betrays to me that you have a faulty mode of thinking, in which you assume that your imagination is reality
you don't know they're conservatives
you are a delusional

>>516680364
>Its the same as the screaming fire in a crowed theater
>>516681236
>What if there is a fire?
Then everybody dies - but that's a price we have to pay to protect no-longer-free speech.

>>516680121 (OP)
Trumptoids fell for the meme again #2316 what else is new

>>516684413
leftist is not antonymic to conservative
conservatism is not synonymous with rightist
you understand that, no?

Trump could order that tap water is allowed to be 5% diarrhea and you guys would be like ackchyually there have always been some shit molecules

>>516680121 (OP)
It’s hilarious you idiots are talking about muh free speech on here which has mods and jannies.

>>516680121 (OP)
>"I am going to use this weapon against you"
>Okay but if I take it from you I am using it against you
>"NOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S SO HECKIN NOT UPDOOTERION!"

sneed

>>516680121 (OP)
good, finally something both sides can agree with.

>>516681703
>All of Popper's grandparents were assimilated Jews
So *you* have to tolerate our genocidal evil but *we* get to exterminate you while gloating about our "Chosen" racial superiority.

Every. Fucking. Time.

>>516680121 (OP)
Good job Groypernigger making the Kirk thing about left vs right. Soon will all be put in camps for antisemitism

>>516680121 (OP)
Now Drumptf is taking away our freezed peaches? Does freezed peaches mean anything to anyone anymore???

>>516680121 (OP)
It’s a bit concerning

>>516680364
>You can't burn US flags.
Yes you can.
>Its the same as the screaming fire in a crowed theater.
No it's not.

Retarded nigger.

>>516683788
I just realised you thought 'psychically' was 'physically'
and then told me to take English 101
KEK

>>516680121 (OP)
What have you done, retards.

Why did America decide to become russia 2.0? Why?

>>516684327
>If you had said 9/11 was a good thing back then you'd have been exiled from society
Just like this asshole and his entire cheering country was, right?

>>516685846
wtf you mean electing the president who said he wanted to be like John Putin was a bad idea??

>>516685846
they didn't, the olygarcs took over by using Trump's populism with retarded people.

>>516680121 (OP)
Well, leftists swing the pendulum in one direction as hard as they can, and now they complain when it comes back just as hard.
I would like to remind all the left-wing Discord fruitcakes that they chose radicality over reason against the better judgement of others who tried to warn them how this could backfire.
You didn't listen - in fact, you doubled down. And then everybody cried when Trump#1 happened, but you deny any wrongdoing because God forbid you start recognizing how shit you idiots are at your own political movement. Learn how to shut the fuck up so people can have discourse.
But what did you do? You kept harrassing the normies and radicalized them in the other direction because you insisted on your way or the highway (="being called a nazi"-way).
Now you have Trump#2.
AND AGAIN you refuse to fucking learn from your mistakes.
Buy some mirrors and look into them. You will see the problem started with you.

>>516685846
>Why did America decide to become russia 2.0? Why?
Americans are choosing this future in the same way Russians "chose" the Holodomor.

It's because jewish-supremacist oligarchs control both our countries.

>>516683748
The freedoms were already taken by the left wing. The right might as well just hit them with the same weapons now.

>>516680471
Maybe the right didn't say anything because it goes without saying not to celebrate political killings?
If you didn't notice, the problem isn't that people on the left said nothing. It's that they are saying too much. A large number on the left openly celebrates this shit to this day and are rightfully being reported to their employees for being garbage human beings.
Sucks when people hold you to the moral standards you preach, huh?

>>516684820
The fucking kike forgot to mention that this only matters if there is no fire. Yelling fire is fine if there is a fire. Yelling it in the absence of fire is something only done to create chaos. But this miga faggot will try to subvert you to think that there’s no logic behind this shit

>>516683505
As a kike from a desert shithole you don't get a fucking opinion on any constitution, ok?

>>516684778
Yeah you know you've made a salient argument when it boils down to
>No one can know anything about anyone
Good job!
Don't take an IQ test btw

>>516680121 (OP)
It's no speech time

>>516685612
Which one of those do you think you can prove over the internet?

>>516682115
/thread

>>516688413
took you 5 months to go from free speech absolutist to gladly accepting ruzzia-esque repression.
good job ameriburgers
keep it up
>lel

>>516688945
You aren't Hans, you are Ahmed.

>>516680121 (OP)
>electing an autocrat
>autocrat is doing autocratic things

>>516681510
>I always see way worse when a leftist politician is murdered, which is cool.
Than you can provide proof, like anon gave you?

>>516686173
what exactly did they do, their presidents were very mild and boring compared to Trump who seems to have lost his mind

>>516683505
Memeflag.
>>516684820
If there is a fire then you're attempting to save people and will be seen as a hero.
From Trumps point of view burning the flag incites riots.
>>516685410
Go burn a US Flag infront of a Military Base then. Unless you're a pussy. You won't, because you are a pussy.

>>516689578
>what did they do
>their presidents
i'm not talking about obama or biden or even harris.
this is about their absolutist authoritarian "activism" which radicalized the mainstream - which in turn contributed greatly to trump being president. this is not rocket science.
love him or hate him, trump was a leftist gift to the world.

>>516680121 (OP)
let me know when the lefties are right about the whole fascism/trump is literally hitler thing

>>516689022
sure buddy keep that cope up while the last drop of freedom falls with your tears

Free speech got Charlie Kirk killed.

>>516692155
guns dont kill people free speech does

>>516680364
>You can't burn US flags.
Yes you can. However you cannot burn israeli flags.

>>516689578
>Trump who seems to have lost his mind
I sincerely wonder if Trump's descent is a side effect of being vaxxed.

>>516680200
fpbp
the MAGolems have earned their place once again

>>516691780
Don't worry about what is happening here
Worry about what is happening there
And you won't do shit PUSSY

>>516680121 (OP)
Orange faggot pedphile kike lover

>>516681510
>I always see way worse when a leftist politician is murdered, which is cool.
When was a leftist politician murdered?

>>516680121 (OP)
>Suddenly Conservatives are against Free Speech
I guess the parties switched names again. lol

Lol what do you mean suddenly
Look into bush era "support the troops' nonsense
They've always been this way, it's just been long enough for you to forget

>>516680121 (OP)
Who asked?
Law>orange

>>516689578
>compared to Trump who seems to have lost his mind
Child sniffer Biden lost his and became a mumbling idiot, Trump is losing or has lost his while becoming psychotic.

>>516695879
You’re joking, right?

>>516682115
This
Shitlibs openly called for censorship for years. Most who opposed their calls were doing so by warning them to be careful what they wished for because they could be on the receiving end of these restrictions someday. Shitlibs balked at these warnings because they really thought the US was on the verge of becoming a one-party state where their Obamaist neoliberalism would rule forever, their power never again being challenged. Now they are on the receiving end of these restrictions, just like they were warned about, and they can’t handle it.

In principle, I do not support censorship, but unfortunately it seems the only way shitlibs can learn about the importance of their rights is to have them taken away.

>>516680121 (OP)
Are you surprised, they only serve their zionist like overlords like the good goyim that they are.

>>516696606
No. When was a leftist politician murdered?

>>516697084
Bump. Crickets.