Thread 516681674

Hmmm this looks like stuff that Trump is doing

>>516681674 (OP)
Wtf?! I love fascism now!

>>516681674 (OP)
maybe you're a commie Antifa terrorist.

>>516681674 (OP)

90% of this shit has been going on for at least the last 30 years in this country. LOL but cry some more about the orang kike puppet.

>>516681674 (OP)
>obsession with national security
>labour power suppressed

Doubt.

>>516681674 (OP)
>Fascism is the opposition of made up commie bullshit made to divide people
Sounds good

>10 years of this shit non-stop
You cry wolf retards are so tiresome.

>>516681674 (OP)
>Rampant Sexism
>Religion and Government Intertwined
>Corporate Power Protected
>Labour Power Suppressed
>Disdain for [...] the Arts
>Rampant Cronyism & Corruption
>Elections at all
None of these have anything to do with Fascism. Maybe Sexism does depending on your definition.

>>516681674 (OP)
Just reported (You) for terrorism

>>516681674 (OP)
you are making up definitions again.

>>516681940
First one is true, second is bullshit, same as corporate power protected. Fascism is more alike to communism than retarded commies would like to believe.

>>516681674 (OP)
>reeee the government won't pay for my delusions that require kike pharma pills and surgeries they're literally hitler!

>>516681674 (OP)
This is what I voted for.

>>516681674 (OP)
i wish trump were pursuing all of these and violating every legal barrier to succeed

unfortunately we live in gay niggerhell

>>516682604
>Fascism is more alike to communism than retarded commies would like to believe.

>>516681674 (OP)
>all the good stuff is just what government should be anyway
>all the bad stuff is just what happens when you're permissive of jews
We could've talked about it, but you shot the one debating.

>>516681674 (OP)
The only thing Trump does is suck jewish cock and scam rightoids

>>516682604
It's two ends of the authoritarian horseshoe.
There's a reason the two "left right" extremes hate each other so much, they're competing for the same thing.

>>516681674 (OP)
According to this, every US prez since FDR is a fascist.

>>516682464
Kek. Antifa on notice. Its so over for them.

>>516682067

https://c2cjournal.ca/2022/01/left-wing-fascism-and-its-war-against-conservatives/

>>516683752
It is. The opposite would be anarcho-capitalism. Economic and personal freedom over everything.
>>516683978
yup, despite their minor differences, in essence they're the same, to have a very controlled population, limited economic and personal freedom to ensure 'safety and equity'.

>>516681674 (OP)
when le evil fascism killed less than a tenth of the people le Enlightened Communism killed but it's still somehow the ultimate scapegoat and default ideological blanket label for what I disagree with and deem evil.

>>516681674 (OP)
Impressive very nice. And now for real.
>Comrades, fascism in power was correctly described . . . as the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital.
>It is a government system of political gangsterism.
>Fascism is not a form of state power “standing above both classes — the proletariat and the bourgeoisie” . . . It is not “the revolt of the petty bourgeoisie which has captured the machinery of the state,”. No, fascism is not a power standing above class, nor government of the petty bourgeoisie or the lumpen-proletariat over finance capital. Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. It is the organization of terrorist vengeance against the working class and the revolutionary section of the peasantry and intelligentsia. In foreign policy, fascism is jingoism in its most brutal form, fomenting bestial hatred of other nations.

>>516685286
My point was that if you're ok with open borders and no national security then the free market will suppress your labour. Protecting the borders give more value to labour.

>>516682067
Why do they need to argue against these made-up bogeymen when they could simply argue with the points that are actually being made?

>>516687138
least jewish "intellectual" take on a relatively harmless system whose actual "sin" is to emphasize nationalism over globoschlomo nihilism

>>516681674 (OP)
Apparently 99.99999% of human history was fascism. Was Mussolini a time traveler?

>>516687456
because then they wouldn't be able to play the victim and would actually have to put the heft of logic/reality behind their "arguments". "My tolerance stops where other people's intolerance begins" is these people's motto and the cornerstone of nihilo-progressivism as a whole.

>>516687245
I agree, that's why I said first one is true for fascism but second one is bullshit. Fascism has very rough national security which in exchange empowers laborers.

>>516687138
This is what happens when the words matter more than the concepts they are meant to represent. We all agree that fascism is the ultimate evil before we have even agreed on what fascism even is.

>>516681674 (OP)
>rampant sexism
Kek who wrote this

>>516681674 (OP)
90% of those points are just standard authoritarianism.
It's like saying Idi Amin or Pol pot was a fascist.

Also sexism wtf? Lmao who wrote this.

>>516681674 (OP)
Human rights were invented after WW2.
Fascism is decades older ideology.

Trump is king

>>516681674 (OP)
What human rights are not respected? There is no human right to immigrate in case you wonder.
Not the military but Big Money and Jews have supremacy.
The mass media are indeed controlled but not by the Trump admin, rather by their enemy Globohomo.
What sexism? LGBTQ+?
Religion and Gov are separated.
Others, like the EUSSR or Russia are MUCH more corrupt than America.
The last presidential elections were not stolen for once.

America is light years away from fascism.

what nobody ever wants to engage with though is

is it ever possible to need a bit of fascism?

>>516688763
A woman of course, a Marxist feminist.

>>516683752
It is, unironically.
The Soviet Union under Stalin was very close to actual fascism.
Fascism is just another word for National-syndicalism. Look it up.
Syndicalism is a socialist doctrine.

Fascism is about a strong centralized state that mobilizing everything, the people, the production, the market, the economy etc for the state. It's very similar to communism except communism doesn't allow privatization and communism is about abolishing the state, the classes and the kapital (currency and property).
None of the communists states actually did this, instead they became hyper-statist centralized authoritarian militaristic dictatorship with a wealthy and powerful ruling elite.
This is what Orwell wrote about in most of his novels, that communism in practice becomes what fascism is in theory.

The core tenants of fascism is centralized authoritarian militarisric state and society and economy is divided into corporations that serves the state. The state controls the economy and the market and the labour force.

Fascism in fact has nothing to do with racism or antisemitism or territorial expansion or pursue for autarky. That's national-socialism. There is nothing in the fascist doctrine that says this, and none of the fascist regimes did this except for Italy, and only after Italy firmly aligned with Hitlers Germany. Mussolini was at first a socislist and never believed in antisemitism or race.
He was kicked out of the socialist party because he was also a strong nationalist. His fascist movement was about bridging nationalism with socialism.

Capitalism is the direct opposite of fascism because capitalism emphasize on free market for individuals and for business, on small government, on free trade etc.

This is the truth. Take notes.

>>516681674 (OP)
I voted for this

>>516681674 (OP)
>nationalism
That's societally healthy, actually.

>disdain for human rights
That's been every administration since the 60's, and it was definitely worse then.

>identification of enemies as unifying cause
You mean like the J6ers and MAGA/MIGA fearmongering from the last administration?

>supremacy of the military
You need that with "allies" like Israel.

>rampant sexism
There's a lying blonde bitch heading the DOJ. She doesn't even dress like the slut she is, so I'm not seeing that.

>controlled mass media
Jews own it all, but they sure love to divide us with petty politics rather than unify with patriotic ideals. That doesn't work too well for the establishment.

>national security
That's been every administration since CIA was established.

>religion and government intertwined
Opposite is true. Religion buttfucking government has been a problem in every country since forever, and the classic Mussolini fascism actually tried to undo that.

>corporate power protected
That's oligarchy and corporatocracy. Fascist governments all went heavily socialist and even communist, and we're not seeing that here.

>labor power suppressed
Symptoms of corporatocracy again.

>disdain for intellectuals & the arts
That applies to totalitarian government and dictatorships general. Jews are always fucking pissed that gentiles are smarter than them, so this checks out for Trump's admin.

>obsession with crime & punishment
Been pretty lawless out there for the last decade or so. That pendulum had to swing back at some point.

>rampant cronyism
That's only a problem with non-white Americans, especially Jews. Needless to say, its been going on for longer than just these last few months.

>fraudulent elections
The Biden Leap will never not be funny, but the fraud goes back further than that. We all knew Obama wasn't American and he got to be king nigger for 8 years anyway because Israel said so. Bush jr twice, Clinton, Bush, Raegan... goes back pretty far. Not fascism THOUGH.

>>516681674 (OP)

>things that the left has been doing for at the very least the last decade

>>516681674 (OP)
Nobody cares what terrorists think OP.