Thread 516705620

*destroys your faith in God*

>>516705620 (OP)
Christcucks don't really have a response if they can't say fag, retard, tranny or jew.
They don't even have a rational response for the fact that they're 99.99% atheist, considering they don't accept other god claims outside their cult.

>>516705620 (OP)
this guy? your faith got beat up by this guy? sad.

>>516705620 (OP)
He got rekt by David Wood.

>>516705620 (OP)
As ever, am I supposed to know who that is?

>>516707622
>>516707806
Sorry jew worshipers, this guy is probably top 5 all time and crushes jews and christcucks like breadcrumbs

>>516707880
Yes. I know literally every single person posted about. Because I have autist tier attention to detail, total recall, and perfect logic.

>>516707918
>doesn't actually watch the debates

>>516708069
You mean
>knows no one in a jew cult has ever provided evidence for their beliefs

>>516708069
Btw how does it feel to be 99.99% atheist, aheismbro?

>>516705620 (OP)
Mr. Bean here is not going to make me an atheist, sorry fresbee.

>>516708151
>doesn't have to watch debates because he automatically assumes victory
Amazing.

>>516708204
You mean he won't make you 100% atheist, since you're already 99.99% atheist about all other gods ever invented. Just like the others in this thread.

>>516707469
you're a kike and no one cares about your tranny "gods" aka demons. I'd wipe my ass with your talmud but I don't want to get that filthy on my shit

>>516708283
Btw how does it feel to be 99.99% atheist, aheismbro?
Ohohohoho you can't stand that, can you? It's fucking you up inside.

>>516705620 (OP)
*Restores your faith in God

>>516708335
Fuck jews, fuck jew worshipers, fuck israel, fuck the talmud, god isn't real and you're 99.99% atheist and you fuck kids.

>>516708387
Which god? Since you don't believe in 99.99% of them, be specific, fellow atheist.

>>516708368
>99.99% atheist
It's no wonder you don't watch debates.

>>516708482
Btw how does it feel to be 99.99% atheist, aheismbro?

>>516705620 (OP)
Christian atheists only tackle faith in the Christian deity.

>>516708368
These niggers will disprove god all day, but then talk about dmt elves and breaking the matrix

>>516708568
Nope. All false.

>>516705620 (OP)
>that's a very interesting thought experiment
>lets take a look at it this way
>and so you see nobody really know's anything
>yea and then because of that god is le bad

.............
you don't even have a position on your own thought experiment, sir you are an authority on nothing and that is what i will accept advice on

>well let's look at it this way

I misspoke you clearly don't understand anything and your knowledge of nothing paradoxically is also limited

kek i used to think he was pretty fun but its all just the same shtick every time

he has no good argument's and would be face planted by /pol/ in under 30 replies
hes worse than Gervais or peterson

>>516707469
Most retarded post I've read all day, and ironic, considering the only word you know is Christcuck.

>>516705620 (OP)
i've only seen him debate dr david wood and he got cooked by the audience in the Q and A.
he's actually really likeable and seems thoughtful unlike the typical nu-atheist types (trannyfucker dilahunty, dumbass dawkins, amazing bananaman, etc)
as far as i can tell, his bread and butter argument against theism is the "evidentiary argument from gratuitous animal suffering," which is obviously a great argument and huge stumbling block for a vegan, but i could not give any less of a shit about the woes of a turtle.

>>516708633
smoke another one, Cheech

>>516708674
Can't help but notice you avoided the part where you're 99.99% atheist

>>516707880
Yes because it's in the filename

>>516708804
Because it was an insanely retarded statement and warranted no further response.

>>516708768
Can't help but notice you avoided the part where you're 99.99% atheist


See, retards? This is how fucking easy it is to cook you. I'm literally not even trying. You're doing all the work.
You're in a middle-eastern JEW cult and you think it was your idea.

>>516708897
No, because it crushes your entire stance. You randomly chose a cult and defend it to the death, while denying to the death all other cults. It's the most retarded shit known to mankind. And... AND- you all argue internally too. 500 fucking christcuck denominations proves that you're ALL wrong.

Get rekt.

>>516708804
>you only believe in 1 god and not the other 4000 conceptions of him so you're 99% an atheist like me xd
stupid fucking argument, be better.

>>516708535
>Christian atheists only tackle faith in the Christian deity.
Correct. They do the bidding of the kikes and low IQ whites fall for it.

>>516708460
For any given subject, you choose to believe 1 scientific theory, instead of all the others that were proposed throughout human history.
How does it feel, science denier?

>>516705620 (OP)
>destroys your faith in God
My passive aggressive christcuck relatives already did that.

>>516709002
>99% of the world is religious but being an athiest is correct because a belif based system that prioritises a lack of belief utility or benefit to anybody is the logical stance


seek assistance

>>516709002
what if i were to tell you that i didn't pick Christianity at random

Seeing demons proves that god exists.

I know a lot of you guys have been or have been raised to go to churches, after school bible study, summer christian camps, I think I had a very positive experience, but the one thing that always ruined it, was the pastors. I think every church I've been to, leadership or deacons have been caught for grooming girls (or boys) or stealing money, anyone else have similar experiences?

>>516707469
didn't David Wood run circles around this pipsqueak?

>>516709002
I didn't randomly choose anything, I was gifted a profound experience that 100 percent proved the existence of God. That's the thing about God, he proves himself without equivocation or room for doubt.

>>516708924
Just keep smoking dope and looking at lasers refracting off glasses of water to unlock the secrets of the universe. WHOA BRO YOUR CRACKING TIME ITSELF

>>516707469
I'm the one responsible for 80% of posts saying fag retard tranny and jew and I'm not Christian. Do you think multiverse theory is plausible?

>>516708666
>yea and then because of that god is le bad
I haven't heard him say that. Isnt he a moral relativist or something(it had to do with feels dictate morals)?

>>516708804
why are you mad at God bro? you're making half the posts in this thread...

ever notice atheists try to debunk their half-baked understanding of what God is? they can't debunk the truth of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ so they stick to the idea of "invisible sky daddy."

Nothing but love to you, may Christ reveal himself to you so you can see the full truth.

>>516707469
>hey don't even have a rational response for the fact that they're 99.99% atheist
so true xisters god is an athiest and a mutilated golem like myself.

>>516709295
This one time i was tired so decided to go take a seat in this nice building, some dude in a dress kept waling around the stage mansplaining at me and then everybody started singing.
10/10

>>516709329
i love dr wood and he successfully made his case, but his performance in that debate was pretty bad at parts of it (which he himself admitted)
o'connor didn't get his ass handed to him until the audience started asking them questions.
that guy bringing up the pre-Christian talmudic argument discussing the 2 thrones in daniel (one for the messiah, both for God) was the silver bullet.

I'm an atheist but I can't stand his unrelentless crusade for atheism. yes religion is not true, we knew that 200 years ago. Why make a career out of it? He loves debunking everything, I even seen one clip recently where he said altruism was completely selfish. yes you're probably right but you only bring it up to suck the joy out of everything. I'm going to continue volunteering and being a virtuous person no matter if you deBOOnk everything

>>516709353
You don’t even know how time works in your own reality. Why would anyone concern themselves of how things work in realities of speculation?
Mathematically, where “we” are currently as of right now, time is moving simultaneously forward and backwards, now wut purpose does speculation serve when this is our reality?

>>516709437
hes an athiest so all of his positions to be coherant revolve around

A belief in a lack of belief is not a belief (lmao)
or
B Belief in a lack of evidence is not the same as a belief in evidence (this sounds fucky but basically it does not meet his standard his standard is based upon belief)
or
C(the first 2 are positions but they are not exactly reasonable hilariously they dont exactly have to be) god is le bad therfore my lack of belief or belief is "justified"

>>516709873
self sacrifice disproves him entirely on that point

what is altruistic about self sacrifice

>>516710151
altruism by definition is the "selfless concern for the well-being of others"
self-sacrifice is "the act of giving up something valuable (often ones own interests) for the benefit of others"

so your question is like
"what's wet about water?"

>>516710151
any kind of sacrifice is driven by the avoidance of the negative effects/emotions of not doing the sacrifice. it's a selfish motive to avoid experiencing these negative emotions

>>516710488
he has to prove its not altruistic to be correct lol.

for like a few thousand year's even untill today nobody has any idea why people do it
lots of people used to argue its so heroic its proof of a soul

>>516709977
Are multiverse theory and sky daddy theory are equally bullshit in your eyes?

>>516710590
so your argueing that self sacrifice is basically an iq test because brave new world showed us that we can alter our chemical state's indefinately

that would logically lead you to the idea that IQ is a negative trait.

(straw man sister's its not even made of straw.)

how do you faggots even know who this is?

>>516708523
For any scientific discipline, the majority of theories will be false. Does that imply every theory is false?

>>516710827
Modern Day Debates.

>>516710827
i enjoy debates/philosophy/theology/apologetics/polemics
o'connor's one of the only almost sane voices still speaking in the atheist camp.
i fully expect him to bend the knee eventually like antony flew though.

>>516710827
i drink alot and then watch religious shit
i consider athiesm a religion kek

>>516710827
get a load of this jeet

>>516711112
are you hyped for unemployed drunk andrew wilson vs sexual predator and academic outcast richard carrier's debate?

>>516711112
>>516711156
>>516711182
you’re addicted to faggots telling you their opinions? or do you search for some faggot to reinforce your opinions? i see so many faces posted here and the nu/pol faggots actually know who these retarded ecelebs are. if you aren’t being racist and antisemitic in a manner that’s not acceptable for mainstream jewtube, then you don’t belong here. nu/pol is cancer

>>516710646
They’re one in the same, zoom out
I’m not so smart that I intrinsically know truth, all I truly know is that the universe is stranger then one could suppose. I dare not curse the winds, is it because I fear i would insult wind?

>>516710762
no I don't see how it's an IQ test, sure you have to be able to think abstractly to realize the negative outcomes, but you don't have to be a genius. And you have to value other people enough to make the sacrifice, that will vary among people

>>516711380
lmao i guess you missed the part where /pol/ talked about religion constantly

and how else am i supoosed to learn there opinions should i seek out my inner faggot?

i guess in the end were all just stick's on a heap afterall

>>516711416
As long as you think they're essentially equal that's fine.

>>516707469
Gonna be honest with you. Ive never found any of these libshit gaythiest eclebs to be convincing at all. Mainly because their knowledge of the subject matter is far to limited to make a convincing argument one way or the other.

>>516711380
>you’re addicted to faggots telling you their opinions?
no, if that were the case i'd just read books.
debates are great because you get to see how both sides articulate and ground their position, the strengths and flaws of their arguments, and how they interact with eachother.

>>516711621
because if you are acting out of reason that you cannot cope with the inaction you are not understanding that heroin exist's kek

half the planet is on happy pill's
its low iq to not realise you can just turn that feeling off

i guess your new argument would be its inherantly selfish to not want to do that and therfore you choose self sacrifice

but then you walk into a rather ponderous position of that person removed themself from the gene pool because of there negative trait's (this is in the weeds ) but again its back to self sacrifice not selfishness

you can argue differently if you want i just thought i would skip ahead a little lmao

>>516705620 (OP)
Hate his accent, southern poof

>>516711791
Is this a gotcha, I don’t get it?

>>516708746
>as far as i can tell, his bread and butter argument against theism is the "evidentiary argument from gratuitous animal suffering,"
Why don't vegans read Genesis 9?

>>516711878
debates are retarded because people only watch them to reinforce their own narrative. if you haven’t formed an opinion then you’re a goyim NPC. debates never change anyone’s mind, it’s pageantry for midwits. do you think hitler won hearts and minds through debate? no, it was through effective propaganda and public speaking. you’re a midwit nu/pol faggot

>>516712272
just because debate has been ruined by i dont even know who

4 Minute opening statement.....

its tragically sad
does not mean debate is not probably the most effective form of learning especially when you are involved in it

just because the art is lost entirely does not mean its essence is bad

your goal in watching a nu/debate is to attain a semblence of synthasis
the debators are acting as thesis and antithesis respectively

its waterd down for the pleb's because we cant have real debate's anymore

thats why the "point" of a debate is not to "win" but to get your message across

they are just veachles for the audiences learning
they had to do this because like you said "nobody changes their mind in a debate"
so they just codefied it into the system of debate lmfao

>>516712272
>debates are retarded because people only watch them to reinforce their own narrative
yeah that's not true. but if it makes you feel any better, i'd agree with you if i thought it were.

>>516705620 (OP)
what did he replace faith with then?
can't destroy someone's shelter without offering something else or is he a sadist like most atheists?

Bravo

>>516707469
>>516705620 (OP)
Noone knows who that guy is...

>>516705620 (OP)
The juxtaposition between him, and every christcuck in that jubilee video was so funny.
christcucks are mainly boomers, niggers and Latinos, most young white educated people have move one from this shit

>>516712953
Atheism is not a dogma and never promised anything.
Build your own shelter, nigger.

>>516711890
>you can just turn that feeling off
well most people don't realize they are being controlled by passions, they just think it's a moral duty. and even if they could just escape reality, I don't think people would see that as a good plan, it's just that- escaping and not taking responsibility
>person removed themself from the gene pool because of there negative trait's
but if they sacrificed so that their kin would live on, his genetic disposition is a benefit for his kin. as opposed to another group that is completely selfish and not willing to put the group above personal interests

>>516713240
only atheists think this, it's part of their dogma.

>>516707880
Cosmic Cuck is his hacker handle

>>516709329
>>516708746
Woods was pretty bad and I don't think he is a great debater but most apologists make better cases than O'Connor

>>516711344
Sounds entertaining.

>>516705620 (OP)
Pretty confident he'll be a Christian before 2030.

Last I heard he's like "you either have to believe in the resurrection or you have to believe in the greatest mass hysteria event in history to justify hundreds of people dying for a fake resurrection story"

Only a truly religious experience will change his mind though. Feels > Reals

>>516711380
Debate is the foundation of Western civilization.

Bro is not even top 20 atheist debaters

>>516712272
Hitler debated his ideas in the pub.

>>516713240
>Atheism is not a dogma and never promised anything.
>Build your own shelter, nigg-ACK

>>516714542
name 3 other atheist debaters who are still making the rounds.

>>516713242
but again
if he is sacrificeing for his "kin" even if we take that at face value

are you argueing that he "own's" or has some kind of ownership over them

even if it is kind its completly Self sacrificeing unless you belive we are the genetic's and belive they also belive they are the genetics and not the actual epephenomina of the individual

like it cant be selfish because it does not involve the self
it could be genetic kek (a passion as you call it prehaps) inbuilt
but this is far rarer than you would immagine

the classic soldier jumps onto a grenade
is that to pretect his self or the idea of himself
his ideology or whatever

if we take that argument it means they are not smart enough to understand what is happening

and it is inherantly a virtuous deed or do you deny that

so the crux becomes IQ is le bad.....

and maybe it is or maybe they are not selfish and they are hi-iq and they have no idea what the consiquence will be and they do think about it and it is a self sacrificeing act

if we take a dumb example

im on a team my team will win if i leave the team

i leave the team

your argument that it is selfish because of my identification with said team that i am no longer apart of boils down to iq

not being able to understand that i am seperate from the team this is taken to extreem in death

because you truely are nolonger part of the team

>>516705620 (OP)
I wanna like him, but none of his vids make me feel like I've learned anything new.

>>516709873
>I'm an atheist but I can't stand his unrelentless crusade for atheism. yes religion is not true, we knew that 200 years
How can you know that God is not real? What's your argument?

>>516715629
tl;dr: you can't, but it doesn't matter

>>516712611
objectively false. debate is a terrible method of learning. you should be able to steel man your own arguments and learn from the same texts that these debaters source their thoughts from. these are midwits not greek philosophers or anything of the sort
>>516712730
maybe you’re retarded
>>516714401
check those foundations, they’re resting on jewish lies and impressionable goyim. the western foundation was being re-established by a leader who passed debate to the side and took action. the debate cucks ganged up on behalf of their jewish masters to prevent that from happening

>>516715756
debate is clearly the highest form of learning

"this " current version is not

even me argueing with randoms on here is a waterd down version

i cannot hear inflections of voice i cannot see body language im forced to type rather than orate

you should read and then you personally should argue

but not in this

1minute opening then respond style thats bullshit

you should leverage your entire entity and pit it against an opposing force for the sake of learning not winning

and it is easily one of if not the most effective way i know of


this version you just have 2 steel men and you as an audience member get to see the strongest arguments they can bring to bear *best case scenario*

thats not even close to good enough but its still a vector of learning

>>516709329
Kikecuck wood sucks zionist dick on the daily as he's an obvious shill, plant, fifth column and bad faith actor. The only nigger more of a disgrace to Christianity than that faggot is the nigger Ridvan aka a-jew-state prostitute.

>>516709873
>Why make a career out of it?

I think he blackpilled himself on atheism and either wants to be proven wrong by debating it until he's blue in the face or bringing everyone else down with him like a crab in a bucket

>>516708320
Literally wrong, look up Psalm 32 and Psalm 82. You don't know anything about anything.

>>516708746
You are the one of the earth’s Shepard and you don’t see how extreme animal violence contradicts that?

>>516705620 (OP)
Atheists are just people who've been pacified by zog and ablated from their own natural experiential reality. Their lives are an endless series of abstractions. Their attempts to appeal to logic and reason are in fact a response to their bewilderment at their own existence. No one who has been to a dark sky park and looked out into the heavens, having cleared their mind of all the bullshit like rent and car payments and credit scores and the culture wars and everything else plaguing modern life, has ever walked away from the experience an atheist. Seeing the night sky the way our ancients did is step #1 to understanding anything spiritual. You will always remain fundamentally disconnected from the spiritual and esoteric until you experience this. It grounds you and makes you begin to understand your true place in this world.

>>516715228
you can even spin it to being high iq and that they are willing to die for their idea's or whatever

again another widely accepted noble act

but then you have a problem of how is it selfish

they would selfishly die so that the idea lives on

we can find an extreeme here

what if the person's idea will not live on (many cases of this)

and they still self sacrifice

they are selfishly holding the idea in higher reguard than their own life???

we end up back to them being dumb again

so eather they are just misguided/stupid/wrong/whatever

and its "selfish" even though to them it is not but from an outside perspective it is and whatever trait that made them do it we would call negative so if its a positive trait we have a very big problem

(clearly both ends of the spectrum do this but its super rare)

Or they are being selfless to the point of finality

now that i think about it your argument is reliant on that this has never and could never happen so some universal function or law should be demonstrable to stop it

determinism comes to mind

>>516716915
if in fact you are determanistic what do we call the determanator

what would the operator of a determanistic system be called lmfao

spinoza not like this

and even from the operator's perspective the individual still self sacrifice's he just has no idea that he was always going to do that or she lel

>>516716412
hogwash.
we're to be good stewards over creation and have dominion over animals. but this doesn't necessarily entail i need to care about their feelings.
no where in scripture is all of man said to be shepherds in an ecological sense rather than individual men described as being shepherds in terms of spiritual leadership.
animals are delicious.
i don't go out of my way to hurt them, i even cut the plastic ring things that connect soda cans before throwing them in the trash so that some turtle doesn't grow up looking retarded by it strangling its shell growth. but i don't lose sleep over cows having their lives ended via captive bolt piston to the cranium to provide me with a hamburger.

>>516717181
TLDR self sacrifice dboonks the shit out of his selfish altruism and i would happly give a stren word to the progenitor of such rabbid double think kek

selfish altruism is a subset self sacrifice is how we know the rule exists

>>516717942
The concept of selfish altruism is closely associated with George Price, a scientist who discovered an equation explaining altruism's evolution in the 1960s. After discovering this equation, he transformed into an extreme altruist, giving away everything, including his life, to promote selflessness. His story highlights the paradox of altruism, where the pursuit of selflessness can lead to tragic consequences.

turns out the fucker was a genious and tested his hypothesis

rest in peace kang

it must suck knowing that the guy who invented the idea debunked it

selfishly?
lol