Thread 518532907

Do you want Europe to become poorer?

racists don't think ahead. and if they became poor thanks to a lack of immigration they would still find a way to blame immigrants

>>518532907 (OP)
>GROWTH
is bad for the common worker

>>518532941
Go back faggot.

>>518532907 (OP)
There was less people in those countries before and they were fine.

>>518532997
aww did I hurt the little chud's feelings how cute

why does it need to grow?

>>518532907 (OP)
Who cares about the economy when it doesn't serve the common people.

>>518532907 (OP)
The line! The line! It must go up!

>>518532907 (OP)
Christine Lagarde was born in Paris, France,[13] into a family of teachers. Her father, Robert Lallouette, "born to a Jewish mother and a French father",[14]

>>518532907 (OP)
>europes economy can't grow without migrants
>says increasingly worried jewish person for the 2k time despite 99% migrant population

Immigration destroys the standard of living

>>518533047
change is constant
if its not growth it’s decay

>>518532941
That growth goes to the rich while making the poor poorer you retarded shitskin. Cheap slave labour lowers wages, increases housing prices and increases corporate profits.

The only people who benefit from this are unironically the rich and Jeets, niggers and spics because being slaves in white mans land is better than being "free" in their shitholes.

>>518532907 (OP)
The average /pol/tard is fine with this as long as the new Europeans are LEGAL and CHRISTIAN

I don't mind the economy not growing

>>518532907 (OP)
the problem with this thesis is that the economic stagnation is their own doing because of social democratic policies and the rejection of market forces, they stuffed their own economies and are trying to bandaid it by importing slave labor but are unwilling to actually fix the root problem because repealing the policies that got them into the hole is politically untenable, unpopular with the public or both
alternatively jewry

>>518533047
Because inflation is at a fixed 2.5 to 3%, so if you don't grow you get poorer.
Don't you dare ask why there's inflation.

>>518533166
keep saying that as you walk off the cliff it'll be funny when you finally fall off

>>518533248
The entire edifice of debt is also built on debt/GDP ratio. Trying to get off the ride would be extremely painful for jews.

>>518532941
>WE NEED TO HAVE 1 BILLION INDIANS IN EUROPE

>THEB LIFE WILL BE BETTER FOR EVERYONE!

>>518533268
>You're right so I will give a snarky "clever" reddit response with no actual input
Got it.

It's funny how Leftards turn to the most pro-billionaire capitalist positions when it comes to immigration

>>518533356
I talk exactly like that
>>518533377
thanks for calling me clever

>>518532907 (OP)
This is a VPN nigger straight outta israel

>>518532941
>t.

>>518532907 (OP)
Any nation that is willing to sacrifice its culture and social cohesion for its growth is also willing to sacrifice its citizens for growth. And who exactly does a nation willing to sacrifice its citizens serve?

>>518533501
I look like this

>>518533449
You're welcome, I'm sure you needed it.

they cant grow because they decided to compete with shit tier country of course you cant grow if you cant bypass the system. these goverment need to be destroyed for the population to truly be able to compete with these shit country. it worked for a while because the bypass wass done outside the country but now they are so dependent on shit tier country they must import these people to stay competitive in the market. true hypocrisy.

>>518532907 (OP)
This "growth" has made us poorer and worse off.

>>518532907 (OP)

these people need to hang

>>518532907 (OP)
>technocratic centrist governments tell average voters than a growing economy will benefit them
>same governments tell voters that immigration is necessary to grow the economy
>same governments do nothing to stop economic gains from increasingly being captured by the upper class in a decades long snowballing process
>average voters see no economic benefits from massive social upheaval
>average voters feel alienated in their own society because of how different it has become
>average voters are told they are racist in they are upset about this
>average voters see government and the upper classes doing just fine for themselves while they struggle
>average voters feel they have been locked out of the political process and begin to radicalize

this same pattern is happening all over the developed world with minor local specifics sprinkled in. technocratic centrist liberal governments did this to themselves, they had the courage to usher in these massive social experiments of migration and neoliberal market primacy but have been either unable or unwilling to do anything to change course once it became obvious their ideologically motivated policies were breaking society apart at the seams - so their political order is imploding. people can see that vast amounts of wealth and prosperity are still being generated in society but specific policy choices have been made to allow them to be concentrated among a tiny population while at the same time young people are seeing an ever deepening cost of living crisis and the implosion of social mobility. its all a recipe for massive political instability.

>>518532941
>racists don't think ahead. and if they became poor thanks to a lack of immigration they would still find a way to blame immigrants
Its been 10 fucking years of mass migration cunt, fuck off.

>>518533862
and what do you know things have never been better

Broke:
>Europe's economy can't grow without migrants
Woke:
>Europe can't be destroyed without migrants
shit up your country little westoid, it's what Democracy would have wanted

>>518532941
>muh wrongthink
Rhank god that all you will burn in hell

>>518532907 (OP)
Politicians are destroying their countries chasing artificial GDP numbers.

The UK GDP is much higher today than any time in the 20th century and the country is clearly in a much worse state.

>>518534007
>he not only hates brown people
>he also believes in fairy tales

If the antichrist gets power there will be mostly women migrants who will provide sex.

Also, perhaps migrants can be used for labor, but they should have a timed visa and neither they nor their children should ever get the vote.

I'm glad to see Politico admit that allowing foreign workers has caused a 50% chance of a foreigner taking your job in Europe. Dey took er jerbs!

>>518532907 (OP)
no, but i don't want it to be full of indians, africans, and chinese.

i'm against mass immigration and believe that there should be a limit to the amount of immigrants that can come to a country.

>>518532907 (OP)
Grow what? Cancer? Why would the made up economy of a country with a shrinking population grow?
Say population shrinks 5% and economy shrinks 5%.
How is this worse then adding 5% to your population by importing pajeets and your economy remaining the same as before?
Protip: it isn't. In fact it's better.

But another important question: how big can real per-capita GDP even get? Because yes, there are limits,
and I'm not even accounting for it being a worthless shitshow to begin with:
What good is your GDP if 90% of that is just the 1% fucking around?
In other words: if wealth inequality increases alongside the GDP then people are actively being screwed over and impoverished.

>>518532907 (OP)
Europe believes it needs illiterate filth to grow its economy.
I can't take this world anymore it's so insanely fucked up.

gains for whom

>>518532907 (OP)
>Bring in immigrants
>GDP goes up 30%!
>GDP per capita down 30%!
>WE DID IT EUROPE, WE GOT RICHER!
>1990's jalopy drives past crumbling house as immigrants are seen stealing from a small deli

>>518534399
The illiterate filth do the unskilled jobs freeing up the Europeans to do skilled value added jobs.

>>518532907 (OP)
I rather live with lower standards in a homogeneous society sorry kikes nice try. Btw the west was more prosperous before niggers so that doesn’t make sense

>>518532955
>>518533089
But you don't understand. If you don't sell me your 16 year old daughter for €5 your family's economy won't grow (by 5 €). Think of the economy!

I am so glad Trump is cutting America loose from these global homo faggots.
There was nothing worse than Biden hosting these fucking global homo shit bags in Washington DC when he was trying to show how "statesmanlike " he is.

>>518533047
only way to pay for inflationary ponzi schemes like government assistance programs. and for usury to be profitable that inflation needs to occur.

it is not like that anyone hides the fact that the money as is only serves purpose to funnel literally everything into hands of the central bank, including even ideas and not just Your blood since You are the same faggots that will go on to defend shit like intellectual property

>>518534533
Sorry buddy, you don't get to choose.

>>518532907 (OP)
The economy doesn't need to fucking grow. People need to start learning to be content, pure fucking greed is what gives the jews their power.

>>518532907 (OP)
Just force women to have white children in the same manner men have been forced to render military service.

>Politician: We need more growth!
Reality: Shortage of Hospitals.
>Politician: We need more growth!
Reality: Shortage of Schools.
>Politician: We need more growth!
Reality: Shortage of Prisons.
>Politician: We need more growth!
Reality: Shortage of Roads to handle traffic.
>Politician: We need more growth!
Reality: National Debt is 3 times higher in the space of 20 years and still increasing.
>Politician: We need more growth!
Reality: Country eventually collapses under its own weight.

Return to 90s sensibility https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qzVJYsxR8j0&list=PLP0zHykFbptgFwcM1FzRSyCxekhoAb26I&index=31&pp=iAQB0gcJCfwJAYcqIYzv

>>518532941
How does invaders taking citizens jobs and houses and forcing them to leave their own country help the citizens?

>>518532907 (OP)
>half of the job growth went to shitskins
>meanwhile native unemployment rate went up
Really makes you think

>>518534916
the growth would not be a problem if the economy was healthy. importing slave labor will also not make the economy healthy, even if it will make their favored numbers go up. a healthy growing economy would have enough wealth to spare on expanding its own infrastructure, and you can guess what is deteriorating in the countries that are suffering from this problem, one of the reasons for which is the mass importing of slave labor overloading that same infrastructure.
jewry has fucked us all.

>>518535104
They just want to normalize slavery all over the world this 3rd dimension is hell

>>518535104
i thought now that you owned russia with based heckin nato membership le white alliance is keeping horde out, what happen

>>518532907 (OP)
Yes, we have to go back.

>>518532907 (OP)
Europe's economy isn't growing with immigrants.

>>518532907 (OP)
Yes we need a growing economy! All that gdp increase totally went to the regular goyim and not to the super rich!

>>518532907 (OP)
>ECB chief said

>>518532941
>>518532907 (OP)
there's been virtually zero economic growth in europe since 2015, when the influx of millions of immigrants arrived.
this not only means that we didnt gain any new wealth or resources, it means we now have millions of new people that we have to share this limited amount of resources with.

fiscally and economically migrants havent helped the european economy and it's fully stagnated.

>>518532955
We only need enough employment for the population. I don’t see how I could benefit from an artificially bigger economy.

>>518532907 (OP)
>NOOOOOO WE HAVE TO DOWNSIZE EVERYTHING MUH CLIMATE CHANGE IT'S UNSUSTAINABLE
>Twenty years later
>NOOOOOOO THE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN QUICK IMPORT THIRD WORLD BROWNS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO BREED
Hmm...

>the economy
>The economy is good: you can't afford a house.
>The economy is bad: you can't afford a house.
>The economy is good: you can't afford food.
>The economy is bad: you can't afford food.
Stop giving a shit about the economy. Start giving a shit about the quality of life. You want a better quality of life? Get rid of the rapists and murderers from the middle east.

>>518535373
Na dude, those were all doctors and engineers!

>>518533047
To prop up the ponzi scheme called the 'economy'

>>518532907 (OP)
Maybe economy isn't all that life is about. In fact they often say people living in rural isolated communities are the happiest and longest lived. Everyone admires the freedom pre-agricultural humans had etc.. Maybe we should not have invented money which doesn't even exist?

>>518532907 (OP)
Why do you hate prosperity?

Such a rich and vibrant culture these migrants have brought to Europe. We need more multiculturalism. Can we bring cannibals from Papua New Guinea to slaughter human meat in butcher shops? Can we please get more Islamic honor killings? If we don't get some Mexican cartels to hang decapitated bodies from the Eiffel Tower, can we truly say Europe is diverse enough? What if we bring the Rwandan genocide squads to town and give them all medals for practicing their brave and beautiful cultural heritage?

>>518533643
>>average voters feel they have been locked out of the political process and begin to radicalize
Funny how all sides accept the "radicalization" label without questioning. The le right wing populist parties represent mildly conservative and rule-of-law positions that were common in centrist parties 20 years ago.

To call these radical and extreme is an Orwellian language twist, when the following government decisions are considered centrist and moderate:
>funneling 100s of billions to banks for the euro crisis
>explicitly inviting all of Syria to Germany, implying that Afghanistan and Iraq are also invited, and everyone else is welcome to join as well
>3 years of unprecedented dictatorial Covid measures
>writing Climate Change as main goal of the state into all constitutions and laws

>>518535717
It is acktually pretty simple:

If you earn 1000 burgerunits a day and a burger costs 10 burgerunits or if you earn 100whopperunits and a burger costs 10 whopperunits doesnt make a difference.
The difference is how the wealth is shared.

>>518535841
After all that migrants we got from 2015 and onwards we should be swimming in money and wealth right now.

>>518534506
No the illiterate filth take up the jobs at slave wages.
It has nothing to do with we need service workers.

>>518535973
You need more migrants to pay for the financial burden that those migrants represent.

>>518535932
I remember when I was a wee little kid. We had this system between a friend and me where we would give each other "friendshipcredits" for being a good friend. So if he did something good I would give him 100 friendshipcredits or vise versa. Later on we laughed at the idea when we weren't 6 anymore, but little did we realize then that everyone believes in such a silly system in money.

>>518532907 (OP)
I’d rather have a better society than a stronger economy.
Society makes my and my children lifes better
Economy only favors the rich

>>518532941
>10 years of straight mass immigration
>Things have only gotten worse

You fucking retard. Immigration is quite literally the total destruction of modern society. Every Indian should be executed, every Mexican sent back, and every criminal should get the rope.

>>518532941
>if they became poor thanks to a lack of immigration
toplel, 8/8

>>518532907 (OP)
Please explain how hordes of 50-IQ violent savages from darkest Africa, living on state benefits, robbing and raping Europeans, will "grow" Europe's economy.

>>518532907 (OP)
If they're white I have no problem with them

>>518532907 (OP)
How about instead of 'growing' we instead take stock of who we are?

>>518533162
tumors grow too you fucking retard. growth is not synonymous with prosperity you jew-brained jeet

>>518533047
Hey cool it with the antisemitism there, Hans

>>518532907 (OP)
These overpaid morons never explain why we need the growth in the first place?

>>518532907 (OP)
Shoot Muslims at the border
>>518532955
Also this

>>518532941
>racists don't think ahead.

Rare troon W. Boomers created this pension and welfare system that requires an increasing population, but didn't have kids for it.

>>518532907 (OP)
How does that work when unemployment is the biggest problem around here?

How about we stop growing, take some recession and then stabilize. Instead of destroying everything in name of our lord and savior "never ending growth". It will NEVER be enough

>>518536083
It is just an abstract way to represent goods and services. Should a farmer go to the supermarket and bring a cow in order to buy other stuff?

>>518533047
So the rich can get richer.

You just have to imagine in the 70s a single income could support a family, buy a house (that isnt owned by someone else), could afford food, could afford cars and vacations.

Now comes the striking part:
We become more educated, we become more efficient and productive, yet mysteriously we are poorer.
So given that this would mean if we become more educated, efficient and productive by that logic we become poorer.

>>518537123
Just import more jeets, then more infrastructure is needed and all the unemployed people will get jobs

>>518532907 (OP)
Europe doesn't need to be like america
Europe doesn't need a large economy
The economy won't mean shit without progress anyway and there's no progress without white people

>>518537511
growth is good because it allows nations to fund infrastructure to increase the ease and prosperity of citizens. unfortunately thanks to politicians and the importing of foreign slave labor the numbers are going up but the prosperity isn't and the value of currency and the state of infrastructure is crashing, because all the wealth is being funneled to the elites and foreign countries.

>>518532907 (OP)
Lagarde is a jewess

>>518532941
> Be poorer
> Have less goods and services
> Have an all white, high trust community
I'm unironically OK with that consequence.

>>518532941
Good b8 m8

>>518537672
Yes healthy substantial long lasting growth is good not just "numbas get bigger", meaning just a fake economy whatever that is.

>>518532907 (OP)
>MUH ECONOMY

Means nothing. Like GDP.
Economy can double without poeples living standard improving at all.


"Economy" is tracking of numbers of interest to the megacorps, banks, super rich.

>>518532907 (OP)
she's a criminal, opinion dismissed

>>518533166
Based kike.

>>518533046
he's jerking off to blackedraw porn anyway

>>518533200
But everyone knows animals can't get into heaven

>>518533248
Funny part is that inflation number is arbitrary. No one has ever tried 0.5% inflation before

>>518532907 (OP)
If you believe these jew lies I have some ocean front property in Arizona I will sell you.

>>518532907 (OP)
Wasn't there a recent study showing mass importing shitskins has done fuck all for our economy?

>>518532907 (OP)
>look into immigrating to europe from canada
>you must have x salary
>you must have y & z degrees
this bullshit only applies to fellow westoids

>>518532907 (OP)
So then how did our economies grow prior to immigration? Our countries didn't just magically go from nothing to suddenly booming the moment the first immigrant stepped off the plane.

>>518533047
>>518533248
>>518538885
deflationary tendency means that the worth of money grows while just sitting there. this means the logical thing to do is to not spend it, so monetary velocity slams to a halt as nobody buys anything that isn't necessities, meaning the economy stagnates and new businesses fail. inflation happens because government policy is to print money, and the way it prints money is by paying workers and contractors for services, which is primarily wages and programs like defense spending and infrastructure building. you want a good level of infrastructure building and maintenance so that the country doesn't fall apart, so you naturally want to spend (print money) enough that the country and its infrastructure grows in quality while not spending too much more (2%ish) than the economy is actually creating through productivity and bank loans.
problem with all this is that if your gdp number going up isn't actually tracking with the prosperity your citizens are experiencing, it means all that money and value is going elsewhere. it's being imported out of the country to mexico, china, and the bank accounts of elites. the government printed 10 dollars, and that should have gone to you to track the 10 dollars of roads you built and services you rendered to fellow citizens, but in practice you got about a buck and elites and foreigners got 9 dollar. the 10 dollars still exists and is tracked by gdp, but you don't have most of them.

Why cant the immigrants grow their own economy where they came from?

>>518532907 (OP)
Only parasites want to "grow" the economy.

>>518539130
Depends on the country youre immigrating to. Try the med shitholes like Spain Italy, Greece and cyprus

>>518539611
>government policy
This is the problem right here.

>>518533047
So that the parasites can drink more of our essence.

>>518532907 (OP)
>If we don't import people and increase our GDP how will we pay down the debt and interest on the debt we created by our decades of terrible economic management
This is what they're saying

>>518532907 (OP)
The reason why they need the economy to always grow is because they sell the future income to Jews for debt that can be spent now.

>>518539611
>bank accounts of elites
Parasites

>>518539916
yes but read the rest pls it's important. government policy to print money is fine and normal. government policy to export the wealth to everyone else instead of benefiting your people with it is not.

>>518539913
>Italy
They have this bullshit too, they were where I wanted to go

Why does it need to grow?

>>518532955
>GROWTH
>is bad for the common worker
Cool it with the antisemitism anon. GDP is important for bankers.

>>518532907 (OP)
>Just let the nations that your ancestors built for you, and is supposed to be inherited by your children be transformed into a third-world hellscape so the billionaire's numbers can keep going up. Trust me, bro, it's going to be like so cool

>>518532907 (OP)
The people who say this are the billionaires, who want to flood the nation with cheap labor. They want the infrastructure of your nation, but with cheap labor because the national workers have become too entitled for them to take advantage of.

The moment those immigrants also become entitled they will replace them with more immigrants again, and this will continue until they can replace everyone with robots.

So no, fuck those cunts. This is a lie.

>>518533505
Jews

>>518532907 (OP)
Immigration is making Europeans poorer and their nations more dangerous.
The GDP growth won't last forever and will collapse when the money to fund these people runs out.

>>518540287
I agree with your post. However, when the body is infected with parasites. The host is not growing. The parasite is. We need to starve the parasites with deflation. This is what bitcoin was suppose to do, but it looks like it is failing, unless it can evolve before quantum computing destroys it.

>>518532907 (OP)
I want Europe to stay European, and I want the US to stay people of European ancestry.

>>518539611
>the way it prints money is by paying workers and contractors for services
Why leave out the current situation when governments literally printed money from 2008-2014 to flood the markets with "liquidity" and called it "quantitative easing" then did it again in 2020 but this time also gave the money to people because they shut down the entire economy which is the main cause of the inflation over the last 5 years? Weird you'd leave out something so unique and historic that is directly tied to nearly the last 20 years

>>518532955
>muh gdp, muh bottom line, muh dollars.
Anytime someone says the word immigration----I know they're a stupid Jewish enabler.

>>518540760
notice the immigration is always exclusively third world, they're not making it easier for us to move between first world nations or providing incentives. theyre just importing their outsource slaves so they can slap things with 'made in america' and 'made in canada'

>>518532907 (OP)
Migrants offer a gigantic market (fueled by taxpayer money) by itself to nobody's benefit except companies propping them up. It's unsustainable wellbeing (we get NOTHING in return except if you count crime as a benefit) at the cost of the backbone of society.
Total Journo Death

>>518532907 (OP)
Immigration is expensive; the vast majority of the new arrivals are immediately put on the dole and free housing at the expense of the Taxpayer's hard earned income.

How in the flying fuck does this even grow the European nations' economies is beyond me.

Many of those arrivals are stupid, shiftless and lazy detritus.

Belgian government is currently releasing stats on this particular subject for debate on federal budget. Labor participation rate among migrants including 2nd 3rd generation migrants is much lower than the native population. They pose a significant net drain on the system.

Presumably it is no different elsewhere in the EU. So please explain to me like I'm 5 : How does giving millions of niggers housing, cash and healthcare for nothing help europe's economy? Is there a grand strategy behind it?

>But GDP goes up! If the state borrows money, gives it to niggers in the form of gibs, the niggers spend it on groceries, GDP GO UP!
So its a debt death spiral to make GDP number go up. Just give native population cash to waste if that is the case. We dont need niggers for that. Give me the €2000/month that would otherwise be given to a migrant, ill convert it into €24.000 GDP every year.

>>518539475
It did grow it's just that now GDP needs to grow and grow to outpace the ever increasing debt and interest on said debt that governments have created from successive decades of terrible economic management it's the equivalent of a person living paycheque to paycheque

>>518532907 (OP)
If we bring in more niggers you will be able to afford a house, somehow.

>>518541054
>the vast majority of the new arrivals are immediately put on the dole and free housing at the expense of the Taxpayer's hard earned income.
People need to start looking at what the illegals are buying with their money. Who is this taxpayer money going to and what politicians are they donating to? That is the key to ending this.

>>518532941
Where are the economic benefits? Weve had the migration, I'm just not seeing the economic benefits.
Everything is expensive as fuck and wages are stuck and we had record levels of immigration the last 4 years.

>>518532907 (OP)
>we're going to fix up your house, redecorate it, and replace all of your appliances and furniture with the best that money can buy, but you're going to have to let someone else live there instead of you
>what's wrong? don't you want to improve your home?

>>518540684
because i was speaking generally, since general conditions were also causing a steady downturn for the average person also, i think we can all agree that we got fucked by an enormous spike of inflationary spending that not only didn't actually track to any productivity increase or infrastructure building but ended up largely outside of the average person's bank account
i don't disagree with your thesis, just that if we intend to improve our situation we need to practice good fundamentals, there is no magic road out of this

>>518537511
Abstractions by definition aren't real, so your answer is also an answer unto itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0W6CX-uHhk

>>518540980
Because a first worldie would ask to be paid the same wages as the locals, a pajeet will work for 1/5th of the wage and live in a studio apartment with 10 other pajeets.
It benefits corporations and neoliberal government since now locals need like 2 jobs to support themselves

>>518541246
>Where are the economic benefits?
Taxpayer money is siphoned off to millionaire government contractors and billionaires that own the mainstream media that tells people illegal immigration is good. That is the only economic benefit.

>>518533162
Indians are the physical embodiment of decay

>>518538114
>She
Opinion dismissed either way

>>518541290
But the "quantitative easing" from 2008 has redefined and shaped the world economy I just point it out because you're referencing an economic model that has been abandoned for nearly 20 years now

>>518541246
>Where are the economic benefits?
The benefits are not for you. GDP goes up. Stock market go up. You only get the drawbacks : Stagnant wages, cost of life explodes and your daughter is unlikely to come home from school safely.

Oh and human feces in random places but we don't get poopjeets so we don't have that particular problem.

>>518532907 (OP)
Lies won't save you Ahmed, islam is th religion of destitute filth.

If we are expected to grow. Give us more space to grow. Why have immigrants come to us? Why not go to them? Why not take their space, amd make it ours.

Thats is real growth.

A healthy tree can't grow in a pot. Its roots and canopy need to spread out.

These other spaces are also infected with parasites, and the bodies in these spaces are drifting into our space. If the masters in their spaces have failed them, we should enter them, and replace them with our superior way of being.

>>518532907 (OP)
what growth is this retard talking about ?
the only thing that is going up is prices of goods, housing services, salaries are getting such minimal increments that we are objectively poorer every year especially since covid and the ukr-rus war with all the money printing.

>>518532907 (OP)
Blind "economic growth" is bad. Importing shitskins lowers salaries, lowers workplace standards, fills up housing, worsens cities, increases pollution, increases crime. It's economic terrorism. Any jew and cryptojew who wants to import shitskins into Europe for the "economy" should be scalped on live TV and fed to hogs.

>>518540494
What song is he even lip syncing in the real video?

>>518541461
>But the "quantitative easing" from 2008 has redefined and shaped the world economy
well, yes, of course it has, i wasn't debating this
>you're referencing an economic model that has been abandoned for nearly 20 years now
please explain

>>518541338
Nothing is worth turning our countries into India over

>>518541949
I think Western governments have adopted aspects of MMT like how they create money by virtue of massive government spending in and of itself which is why they're perfectly happy to import lots of unproductive people who receive welfare

>>518541338
The only people who dont want higher wages, are parasites, because they dont work, they just pay for services. The parasite doesnt understand the mind of the worker. Dont you see. We want higher wages.

With mass immigration to white nations, the cure is worse than the disease. this rigged centralized economy only benefits bankers

>>518542741
>bankers
Parasites

>>518542782
yes. the idle wealthy are parasites. making money by moving money around. that's cancerous

>>518532941
You faggots are so stupid it hurts. To OP: if all the “growth” is captured by the immigrants, then what’s the point?

>>518532907 (OP)
Enjoy Capitalism !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Aa4rQ9wzI

>>518543140
Captured by immigrants?
Thrnprofit goes to the capitalists.
They benefit from the immigrants.
Look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Aa4rQ9wzI

>>518533040
>Fine
They were BETTER wages were better, working conditions were better, house prices were lower, services were better because they were not performed by 3rd worlders who don't care.
Only jews care about muh gdp.

>>518532907 (OP)
The best thing for the European economy is, apparently, to import people with a lower average IQ, who commit more crime, and are more likely to live on welfare. March on Brussels when?

the economy cult must suffer a populist jihad against it
no,I don't want to sacrifice literally everything for Jews to gain 0.000001% more on their quarterly earnings

>>518532955
I saw today these so called critical needed workers delivering heavy idustry bolt food with bicycles

>>518532907 (OP)
elites set out to build perfect society.... for themselves
>turn populace into narcissistic consumers
>destroy personal responsibility and replace with collective apathy
>blame worlds problems on over population
>crush birth rates
>entire socialist ponzi scheme control system destabilizes from lack of workers
>declare flood of third world violent uncivilized baby makers as only salvation
>surprised entire system surges into collapse

>>518545038
hehe, that is pretty wild from a distance

>>518542503
money creation by spending is kind of by default true imo, not just because mmt holds it as an axion, i was under the impression that the reason governments are totally screwing their citizenry is half keynesian policy and half trying to bail themselves out of stagflagtion using imported slave labor

>>518545038
/thread
Another part of this problem-reaction-solution trick is to import more crime, violence and terrorism in order to justify more surveillance.
The reason they bring in so many muslims is that they want us fear them and make us sympathize with Israel more. Thats the right wing zionist angle to it at least. The left wing angle is just patholigical altruism and Maoism–Third Worldism.

>>518532907 (OP)
>poorer
in what sense
Culturally? certainly not. Quality of life? Certainly not. Economically - but here's the thing - for the common man who doesn't invest in the stock market? No. So poorer in what sense?

>>518533047
>why does it need to grow?

Woah don't ask logical questions anon.

AI will take our jobs but we still need 3rd worlders anyway.

>>518547203
I wonder what the new spin will be once AI has wiped out job opportunities for everyone including immigrants. The birth rates talking point or "they do the jobs you are unwilling to do" talking point will be impossible for them to keep shilling at that point. So what will the next gaslight be?

FUCK HOW EVERYONE LIVES THE NUMBER MUST GO UP

>>518534040
no need. Hell is coming here!

>>518534034
Because of unchecked corporate influence on politicians. The growth does not benefit the common person, all it did was make them compete with browns, worsen healthcare system, worsen pollution and sound pollution, worsen housing prices. Immigration was always a net negative for the common person.

>>518533166
Based Jew.
>>518547413
There won't be a next talking point. They will simply bring them here and throw you in jail if you question it

>>518532941
Im already poor you nigger. I don't want to be poor AND have to deal with third world shitskins.

>>518532941
You faggots need to stop pretending to care about the economy. You want migrants precisely in order to accelerate the destruction of countries. The fact that more workers = lower wages isn't lost on leftists. You're actively cheering for this because you think it will help expedite the collapse.

>>518532907 (OP)
>Why are you against immigration?

OP with Portugal flag is a known shill.

Faggot is 24/7 on /pol/ baking divisive threads

>>518535611
Why do we need all those doctors anyway? The birthrate is collapsed, so there isn't enough demand for them.

>>518533162
Tell that to diamonds and gold...

The most valuable things are basically immortal.
Like white beauty or honor.

>>518532907 (OP)
why does it need to grow? same economy with less people already means personal growth

>>518533166
Well put. Somehow e.g. IsrAid did not get your memo though. Strange.
>>518548931
Yet you right wingers also prolongs the same system that is faccilitating this for its own profit margin with your consumerism.
The left is not the only factor or problem. In fact a lot of leftists even do some things that is prohibitive of this consumerism-inflation-immigration cycle.
Not saying I condone everything the left does or support because they still support other causes that serves the merchant class as well. I just know there is more nuance to this than what most are willing to admit to themselves.

>>518532941
>"if ((( Europe ))) becomes poorer
it means common European workers are paid better wages, which some consider antisemitic

>>518549720
This is true. Right and left end up playing in the hand of the same people. Left argues that immigration is good for diversity and helping poor people, right claims the immigration is necessary for the economy. They're essentially the same, packaged in different ways

>>518532907 (OP)
>>518532941
Why do so many want the economy to grow when any other day they whine about corporate profits and capitalism ripping off everyone?
These are the same people who will never apply the same rationale to pensions and social programs, which also seem to require infinite growth to be sustainable.

>>518532907 (OP)
Unironically Vaushpill is correct, all white men that are rightoids are only rightoids because of deep seated sexual frustrations and insecurities, they worry that white women will choose immigrant men over them and that it'll cause white genocide, because they aren't sure if they can compete with non-white men. It's as simple as that.

>>518550044
Yes and then you also have the supporters of Donlad Trump and this new populist right in general today that vocally may oppose mass immigration yet still subsidizes the institutions like big ag which faccilitates a lot of it.

>>518532955
Exactly! There's way too many white people I-I mean people in general. When I say "people" i'm speaking in very broad and general terms yeah. So look we need to start having less kids or by the early 2000's the whole entirety of the human race will have completely run out of natural resources and we'll all starve to death! So you better stop having so many kid ok? Either have just one or adopt a stray cat or a nice african baby!

Please explain to me why line must ALWAYS, NO MATTER WHAT OR WHEN go up. Thanks in advance.

>>518532907 (OP)
It grew when Britain had the British Empire.
Maybe we don't need pakis and niggers... maybe we just need a NEW EMPIRE?

>>518533162
>if its not growth it’s decay

>>518540662
Um... didn't you forget to mention someone

>>518539611
>so monetary velocity slams to a halt as nobody buys anything that isn't necessities,
Stopped reading right there. People don't store money in a safe, they put it in the bank. The bank obviously doesn't put it in a safe either, it uses it to invest/loan out.
That seems to be the main argument for inflation and it is absolute bullshit.

>>518550266
Define "rightoid" for me then.
Vaush is a pedo thats into fucking horses. His psychoanalysis of others stems from his own deep seated mental issues. Much like anyone who uses Freudian pscyhology on anyone they can not win a debate in good faith against. Freud himself was a perverted, psychopathic freak that technically raped his female patients with his insane quack theories.

>>518550588
Empires always lead to this shit like today in the end. You want to go back to the accumulation process. You are unimaginably dumb.

>>518542260
>a person
add it to the list

>>518532907 (OP)
look at all of this GDP

Western countries criticize immigrants, yet their economies wouldn't run without them. You refuse to have children and avoid tough jobs yourselves, but instead of taking responsibility, you blame the very people keeping your societies alive. Shame on you

>>518550905
>Empires always lead to this shit like today in the end.
This. Romans complained about syrians and asiatic greeks (I think they meant anatolians with that) in Rome and complained that the syrian Orontes River flowed into the Tiber River.

>It is that the city is become Greek, Quirites, that I cannot tolerate; and yet how small the proportion even of the dregs of Greece! Syrian Orontes has long since flowed into the Tiber, and brought with it its language, morals, and the crooked harps with the flute-player, and its national tambourines, and girls made to stand for hire at the Circus. Go thither, you who fancy a barbarian harlot with embroidered turban….

I dob't think it is all christianity's fault and not all liberalism's fault.
I think people even right-wingers forget that technology and empires are a faustian bargain.

>>518534506
Some do, but overall, they're a drain on the economy. not only that, they stagnate wages by saturating the labor pool, drive up house / rent prices, strain the public services they never paid into, commit more crime and generally make a nuisance of themselves

>>518551144
>you need me to pay for old people's pensions or something while i collect cradle to grave welfare for me and my children and commit crime
>lalallalallalala

>>518532907 (OP)
Yes.
>/thread

>>518551144
>avoid tough jobs yourselves

It's weird seeing the same people who cheered for $15/hour and even $30/hour now freaking out saying you can't pay field workers $15/hour unless you want $10 strawberries and $20 watermelons.
What the fuck do they think happens to food and hotel prices when fast food workers make $20/hour and hotel staff $30/hour?

>>518532907 (OP)
immigration does not improve the economy, it games statistics that people pretend is the economy
a service economy is one where people accept objectively worse living standards and lower availability of goods to raise an arbitrary number in a ledger

>>518551351
One side comes to a country that’s not even their birthplace, works harder than anyone else doing the toughest jobs, while the other side takes the money, looks for the easy work, and spends the day on TikTok. So which side are the real parasites of society?

>>518551804
Except most of them don't work, they just breed, commit crime and collect gibs.
Your arguments are shit, you're a faggot and I hope you get raped by a pack of immigrants

>>518551144
>Western countries criticize immigrants
Most westerners are as deluded as many of the inhabitants of your liberalized, americanized insane asylum of a country with some of the highest circumcission rates in the world. Most westerners talk and think just like you do.
>yet their economies wouldn't run without them
Whose economy? The fiat economy? The ponzi? The scam? Thats the economy you are referring to here.
>You refuse to have children and avoid tough jobs yourselves
Its rich when you liberals spew out this generalization. You know because you otherwise always tell others not to generalize.
Also this scam economy you say immigrants keep alive does not incentivize children or jobs for the white middle class that its primarily aimed at disenfranchising and obliterating. The morbid part is that the white middle class still votes for its own demise anyway. So I am really not even trying to take their side against your ideology or anything because they are self destructive enablers of their own demise. I can not sympathize with someone as dumb as they. But I also know you are full of shit.
>but instead of taking responsibility
What responsibility? The markets responsility? Fuck the market.
>you blame the very people keeping your societies alive
I am not even blaming them per se. But why should I also want them to keep what you call my society (its not though) alive? Fuck this society.

>>518551951
putting people in prison increases GDP goy. Each prisoner is a job creator. Some middle man jew has to be paid to outsource workers to build the prison, some middle man jew has to be paid tosupply the prison with utilities, and food, and clothing. some middle man jew has to be paid to manage the pension accounts of the guards hired to manage the prison. It's good for the economy to import violent forigners just to put them in jail.

t.noseberg backstabberstien

>>518551144
Absolute fallacy any anyone who has done tough jobs knows it. I used to load trucks and broom floors in a factory where you were required to have a university degree to work, because (thanks to unions) the pay was so good they had to filter applicants somehow. You can get engineers to clean toilets if you pay them enough no problem.

>>518552061
>Most westerners are as ...

Deluded or not, that doesn't change reality immigrants show up, take the hardest jobs locals avoid, and keep the economy running. Name calling doesn't erase facts.

>Whose economy? The fiat economy? The ponzi? The scam? That's the economy you are referring to here.

Call it whatever you want. The point remains without immigrant labor, essential services, agriculture, construction, and countless industries would collapse.

>It's rich when you liberals spew out this generalization. You know because you otherwise always tell...

None of that changes the fact, immigrants are doing real, necessary work. You can handwave about scam economies or self destructive middle class, but people working hard in menial, dangerous jobs aren't wrong or deluded. they're keeping society afloat while others complain.

>What responsibility? The market's responsibility? Fuck the market.

It's not about the market, it's about the basic reality of labor. Someone has to do the work. Immigrants do it.

>I am not even blaming them per se. But why should I also want them to keep what you call my society (it's not though) alive? Fuck this society.

Then fine, you can "fuck society" all you want, sit on TikTok, and criticize from the sidelines. Meanwhile, immigrants are the ones actually doing the work that keeps your streets, your food, and your services running without them, your comfortable life wouldn't even exist for a day.

(I deleted some because the number of comments exceeded the limit)

>>518532907 (OP)
>our economy might tank we'd better import
>wtf we imported and it's still tanking guess we'd better import
this is the lib strategy everywhere. claim you have a solution, but your solution makes it worse, then claim you need more of your solution until it's ruined forever.
look at every US major city

>>518533047
STOP NOTICING THINGS GOY

>>518534506
I don't know about Europe. But the biggest race traitors of all in America are MAGA type blue collar business owners. They will do anything to hire cheap labor, even if it gives them massive exposure to safety and legal liabilities. There is also a massive ecosystem of small businesses that thrive off low IQ, impulse buyers. Predatory car loans, tobacco shops, convenience stores, auto repair, tradesmen, etc. A lot of business owners like dealing with low IQ Blacks, immigrants, and women because they often don't know what things are supposed to cost, and many massively abuse consumer credit anyway. Car dealers in particular love selling to Blacks and immigrants because their stupid sales tricks still work on them, they often don't haggle on price, and aren't savvy about shitty car loan rates.

>>518553655
>>518551804
>>518551144

Hello pajeet bro i think you are dalit

>>518553655
>Deluded or not, that doesn't change reality immigrants show up, take the hardest jobs locals avoid, and keep the economy running. Name calling doesn't erase facts.
Thats not the reality a lot of the time though, you utter waste of digits.
>Call it whatever you want. The point remains without immigrant labor, essential services, agriculture, construction, and countless industries would collapse.
Yes I called it what it is. A scam that faccilitates what you say is saving what I correctly call a scam, fiat and ponzi scheme.
Do you think I fear a necessary collapse that would lift a lot other anchors from around our necks including what you say is good for le economiez? Do you think I want to uphold this shit system in the long run?
This is why I look forward to AI taking over everything. It will invalidate all of your insidious, full of shit talking points forever.
>None of that changes the fact, immigrants are doing real, necessary work. You can handwave about scam economies or self destructive middle class, but people working hard in menial, dangerous jobs aren't wrong or deluded. they're keeping society afloat while others complain.
How am I complaining exactly? You call it whiny because thats only what you and the rest of your aloof, shitlib ilk wants to see in it. So you can feel superior and above it all.
>It's not about the market, it's about the basic reality of labor. Someone has to do the work. Immigrants do it.
And the shitlib reveals its true crapitalist self.
>Then fine, you can "fuck society" all you want, sit on TikTok, and criticize from the sidelines. Meanwhile, immigrants are the ones actually doing the work that keeps your streets, your food, and your services running without them, your comfortable life wouldn't even exist for a day.
You assume much about my life and the life of other westerners today. Because you are arrogant, narcissistic and probably sit in an ivory tower yourself like the liberals over here that sound just like you.

>>518533047
what are you? a commie? spread your wymin legs for the sake of the economy goy!

money is ok but a future is way better
money trade and barter can always come back but an extinct bloodline cannot dont be fooled by this tripe

>worse working conditions and wages
>less housing
>less public resources
>more race mixing
YES, LET'S IMPORT MORE NIGGERS

you faggots need to deport whatever scumbag politician supports this nonsense. they are basically traitors working against your best interests.

>>518533047
hey, cool it with the antisemetic remarks

>>518555219
Thats really the gist of the scam that is Trumpism. Make a big show with ICE yet keep subsidizing the sectors that faccilitates hiring immigrant cheap labor. See also the presidential pardon of Sholom Rubashkin.
Its really not even small businesses though. Because those you describe are just the lower rungs of the big ag food chain.

>>518534804
>greed is what gives the jews their power.
ALL of jew's power derives from leveraging the white man's vices: greed, porn, revenge, power over others, jealousy, etc. they operate in the exact same paradigm as Satan.

>>518555450
You can accuse me of arrogance all you want, assume I sit in some ivory tower, and spin whatever narrative about westerners.
None of that changes the reality on the ground, someone has to do the work. Immigrants are doing it. Without them, your streets wouldn't run, your groceries wouldn't arrive, your buildings wouldn't be maintained, and essential services would grind to a halt.

Go ahead and fantasize about AI taking over or society collapsing, that's your vision. Meanwhile, reality doesn't wait for your ideology. People are working, sweating, and keeping life functional while you sit on the sidelines calling it a scam

>>518532907 (OP)
Maybe economies should not continually grow forever?

>>518558083
BRVTAL TRVTH NVKE. the west will only keep getting more diverse while white, brown, black, yellow any nationalists leak out of their clitties and realize their women will race mix and their future is a diluted globalistic one human race of mulattos and mulattas. its so fucking kino

>>518532907 (OP)
the thing I'm still confused about is how you don't hear the left capitalizing on this
they should be the first to denounce this infinite growth bullshit
take advantage of the obvious general sentiment against immigration and spin it as a leftist, anti-capitalist movement

>>518533162
No, stagnation is between
Its fine to be comfortable where you are

>>518558568
leftists aren't anti-capitalist and haven't been since the working class rejected their world revolution a century ago
modern leftism is a spiteful bourgeois movement about punishing the natives, all else is window dressing

>>518533643

You talk like this was a failed experiment. No, this was the plan all along.
Unproductive migrants exist as a captive voter base that will empower the establishment to tax and suppress the productive members of society, on the promise that they will get a tiny shred of the booty.
It's not just some dumb lolbertarian plan to make line go up.

>economy above racial loyalty
This is wrong thinking. Focus on economic growth is destroying actual thinks that matter.
Money truly is acid that burns everything

>>518558083
You want something degenerate, psychopathic, sick, corrupt, ugly (beauty is objective so stfu) and rotten to keep itself above water. I do not. You can sugar coat it and rationalize it until your hair falls off. Does not change that you and everyone in the world with your "end of history" and "line must go up" pathology are mentally ill in your obstinate desire to make this bullshit work.
I am gladly opposed to 99,99% of all of humanity. That includes most westerners or "white" people or whatever btw. I do not give one iota of a shit if you all despise me for tearing down the curtain you hide behind. I did not ask to be born into something you call a society but I call a monstrosity and then languish in this liberal asylum you call a society for over three decades now. I wish I had the spine to kill myself because if I did I would have killed myself two decades ago already.
You are toxic scum and everything you stand for is shit no matter how you candy-coat it with your kumbaya crap.
I do not want this to work. Because what you want to work repulses me.
I am agent Smith pilled you could say. The trannies who made The Matrix did not want anyone to agree with him yet I do agree with him in this scene at least: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgS1Lwr8gq8
I am not pro-migration or anti-migration as such. I just think you are both full of shit in your own seperate ways and deserve each other. You merely and simply just deserve each other.
The end.

>>518532907 (OP)
Then it doesn't have to grow. Sacrificing everything for muh economic growth is the most retarded and self-destructive shit ever

>>518560956
You hate the world because you think rejecting it makes you pure. But that's just ego disguised as despair.

You talk about rot and corruption, but you still use the tools, language, and infrastructure of the same monstrosity you despise.
You've built nothing, changed nothing, and yet think your disgust is some higher insight.

It isn't. It's just surrender dressed up as rebellion. You don't hate the world because it's sick! You hate it because you can't stand being powerless within it. That's not clarity.

That's cowardice!

>>518532907 (OP)
MUH GDP MUST GROW!

>>518539611
i don't care about jewish economics

>>518562567
/thread

>>518562637
I hate people (not all people just most). I hate myself too. Not the world though. Rightoids and such likes to say nature is a bitch but I disagree. Nature is just fair. Humans are a plague. Not all humans. Just most of us today.
And who says I will keep using what you call this systems infrastructure forever? And what even is there worth building today in your sick world that someone will not just tear down and defile in some way anyway? So is it any wonder I am defeatist in that regard right now as it currently stand (your narcissism and gaslighting will not reign forever though).
You think I feel despair and powerlessness? I do not even want power. I am not some deluded Trump esque righoid who thinks this shit can be usurped somehow. It can not. I do not feel powerless because of that reality though. I am just cynical. But not really a pessimist. I am actually optimistic about your bullshit falling flat on its own ass eventually. I look forward to it. I am not afraid of what you want me to be afraid of.
You liberals/leftists are the ones psychoanalyzing others who disagree with you so you can feel superior and above it all. Not me.

>>518562567
Boomers and jews are soulless what do you expect

>>518551144
then take them in

>>518534122
>i'm against mass immigration and believe that there should be a limit to the amount of immigrants that can come to a country.

The limit being 0 non whites.

>>518532907 (OP)
>jobs growth
at the expense of wages growth.

>>518532907 (OP)
yes I want Europe to starve in lack of browns and then I want Europe to nuke all browns

>>518546851
The reason they do so is because Jews are cucks and their women don't want hot white women in the world

>>518545038
Elites just cursed their bloodline with shitty jewish genes and making the world too small for young kids to care. They will never reach the middle class comfyness from decades ago

>>518550697
for what reason would they loan money if they (and also anyone seeking a loan to start a business with) can instead just not do anything and the money will grow anyway? principle of least effort.
>>518562776
jewish economics is keynesianism. it's when the government regulates the shit out of everything and especially fucks with monetary policy when things go wrong. the central belief is the exact opposite of what i expressed in that post: they specifically don't believe that productivity is coupled to the worth of anything, which is why it's ok for them to fuck everything up freely to achieve "objectives".

>>518532907 (OP)
Yes. I don't care. I'd rather be DIRT poor than ruin my ancestral homeland with niggers.

>>518565572
You sound like every burnt-out nihilist who mistakes disgust for depth.
Hating society doesn't make you enlightened, it just makes you useless.

Also, You talk about corruption and rot, but it's the immigrants who still work, build, and raise families that keep your world from collapsing on your head.
You don't have to like the world but pretending that destruction is virtue is the most cowardly cop-out there is

>>518532907 (OP)
Only jews require their piles of debt-money to forever grow.

>>518532907 (OP)
THE
LINE
MUST
GO
UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111ONE!!!!!!!!!!

>>518566459
Said more clearly, the belief that one's domain must forever grow - even if that "growth" kills everything - is the mindset and behavior of **malignant cancer**.

For any host to live that malignant cancer must be eradicated.

>>518532941
>racists
Shut the fuck up you pathetic 65 IQ subhuman shitskin animal
You are beneath me in every fucking conceivable way

>>518533268
You're a little cunt faggot cock sucker
Why not simply fucking kill yourself

>>518532907 (OP)
>>518532941
Imagine if Europe had invested the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of € in migrant housing and social benefits over the last 15+ years into infrastructure instead.

Europe could have unified all its train networks so any train can run in all member countries. Or built 2 dozen more state of the art nuclear power plants. Or BUILT A MOON BASE.

>>518566108
>You sound like every burnt-out nihilist who mistakes disgust for depth.
And you sound like a smug, fart huffing, toxic optimist, ivory tower liberal without any real scars or trauma in your life.
Not saying you necessarily are irl. Just that you sound like a trust fund nepo baby.
>Hating society doesn't make you enlightened, it just makes you useless.
On the contrary. Its conformism that makes you a useless eater for the 1%. A golden cage is still a cage. And its a golden cage full of excrement (i.e. corporate and liberal anti-culture).
>Also, You talk about corruption and rot, but it's the immigrants who still work, build, and raise families that keep your world from collapsing on your head.
Yes. They keep the corrupt ponzi from collapsing. And so do dumbass white peons for the 1% as well. And they exist whether you deny they do or not.
>You don't have to like the world but pretending that destruction is virtue is the most cowardly cop-out there is
Again putting words and meanings into my mouth I did not even imply. "Destruction is a virtue"? I never claimed that. I am not accelerationist. At all. I am more let the chips fall where they may and let you all (leftoids and rightoids and anything in between alike) eat each other.
Oh I stand on the sideline like a coward you say? What do you actually know about my own specific circumstances and motivations beyond your smug, vain deductions of me then? Nothing. You have not even the faintest idea of the sheer dysfunction and absurdity I come from that would have made you kill yourself decades ago already if you were me.

>>518533162
Funny how India's population growth is directly proportional to its decay.
This coming from a jeet is just the cherry on top.

>>518553655
Rope yourself pajeet, you and your kind are nothing but a detriment to SôyCiety

>>518532907 (OP)
>Oh no!! No infinite growth!
Why should I care when none of that growth goes downward?

>>518567652
The tree must grow so that we may hang from it.

nobody ever asked me, but maybe i'd rather not roll out the brown carpet for a billion of the average (76.2) that india has to offer. there is no justification for every country on earth to be smothered in surplus pajeets. these are not high quality evolved human beings. they're coming from an ancient stagnant civilization that was recently dragged ahead of its natural pace of advancement by who knows how many centuries? none of this pajeet diaspora saturation is natural at all. while many of you were locked down or restricted for notflu19, they revved up the conveyor belts from india to every other country. this is being done to you, and all the boasting pajeets are merely along for the ride. they go wherever they're permitted to go, like an overflow of sewage. permissiveness has never been further out of control. the shameless thrive in this anything-goes climate of total promiscuity. cultural standards officially don't exist. the stage is set, the way is paved for the endless pajeet parade into permanent decline

>>518532907 (OP)
>Do you want Europe to become poorer?
I want the ECB to be razed to the foundations and Lagarde to die in a house fire along with his whole household

>>518532907 (OP)
What's the fucking point of "growing" if we are surrendering our nations to a bunch of animals? Would rather see a poor white Europe than anything else. Nations are made by its people.

>>518567394
You say life is hard? That the world is hateful? You have no idea what truly hard and hateful is. Children in Gaza worry about going hungry every day, and African slum-dwellers drink muddy water because clean water is out of reach.
You're just suffering from poverty in abundance, and that poverty is of your own making.

You keep mistaking bitterness for insight. You say life is hard? That the world is hateful? You have no idea what truly hard and hateful is. Children in Gaza worry about going hungry every day, and African slum-dwellers drink muddy water because clean water is out of reach.
You're just suffering from poverty in abundance, and that poverty is of your own making.

You say you've seen dysfunction? So have most people but they just chose to build instead of rot. You're not standing outside society; you're standing on it, screaming that you hate the ground.

>>518532907 (OP)
>Christine Lagarde was born in Paris, France, into a family of teachers. Her father, Robert Lallouette, "born to a Jewish mother and a French father", was an English teacher
Every single motherfucking time

>>518567394
You keep mistaking bitterness for insight. You say life is hard? That the world is hateful? You have no idea what truly hard and hateful is. Children in Gaza worry about going hungry every day, and African slum-dwellers drink muddy water because clean water is out of reach.
You're just suffering from poverty in abundance, and that poverty is of your own making.

You say you've seen dysfunction? So have most people but they just chose to build instead of rot. You're not standing outside society; you're standing on it, screaming that you hate the ground.

>>518532907 (OP)
>1pbtid
>criminal running a financial institution cheering for white genocide

>>518532907 (OP)
Ethnic cleansing 4 Muh GDP

>>518532907 (OP)
The only thing that needs to grow in order to fix Europe and the economy is a bloody pile of decapitated heads of EU traitor politicians and mounds of corpses of the migrant interloper foreign invaders that are altogether a negative element in every single way possible.

>>518568302
Peak aloof, smug "you have it good think of the third world children" condescending, respectless bullshit guilt tripping.
I could exceed bump limit with what I have been through. No. I never starved and I have never been in a war zone. But I have been through some shit. I have seen some shit.
You have even less of an idea what reality and its scars actually are like if you default to "billions of people than you so shut up and be happy". You just think you are aware of the real world. But you are just guessing and assuming.
The billions of people you claim have it worse than the avarage westerners (with extremely varying life experiences you know very little about). They are not builders either. They get invited here to stand on the same spot you arrogantly pretend I somohow stand on. They get endless sympathy and benefits for being part of the liberal and/or leftist victim pyramid. Yet white people with shitty lifes always only have themselves to blame according to assholes like you because thats the only thing you have left when the cognitive dissonance hits you. That white people with shitty lifes had it all set up for them (not even close to true most of the time but what do you even care anyway?) and only have themselves to blame. Its actually a common talking point among boomers over here. Ergo you sound like a boomer now too. You make yourself sound like a lot of the absoulte worst demographies in the West I have noticed.

>>518568484
Why did you delete the post with the same inane talking points as this one that I actually responded to?
I can repeat myself too:
Peak aloof, smug "you have it good think of the third world children" condescending, respectless bullshit guilt tripping.
I could exceed bump limit with what I have been through. No. I never starved and I have never been in a war zone. But I have been through some shit. I have seen some shit.
You have even less of an idea what reality and its scars actually are like if you default to "billions of people than you so shut up and be happy". You just think you are aware of the real world. But you are just guessing and assuming.
The billions of people you claim have it worse than the avarage westerners (with extremely varying life experiences you know very little about). They are not builders either. They get invited here to stand on the same spot you arrogantly pretend I somohow stand on. They get endless sympathy and benefits for being part of the liberal and/or leftist victim pyramid. Yet white people with shitty lifes always only have themselves to blame according to assholes like you because thats the only thing you have left when the cognitive dissonance hits you. That white people with shitty lifes had it all set up for them (not even close to true most of the time but what do you even care anyway?) and only have themselves to blame. Its actually a common talking point among boomers over here. Ergo you sound like a boomer now too. You make yourself sound like a lot of the absoulte worst demographies in the West I have noticed.

>>518533162
That's why jeets fill the world with ever-greater amounts of shit.

>>518568484
Some human subspecies are completely unsalvageable and whose problems exist entirely on another level beyond what you are likely willing to admit.
You could give niggers a ready-made interstellar starship with systems to provide every single resource necessary for life, like clean water and air, and the niggers would, in short order; break everything, dismantle all of the advanced technology which would alleviate their worries, and use the scrap in order to build a shantytown slum at the base of the wreckage. Never having taking it on one voyage or utilizing what has been given to them to ease their lives.

Swerve now Megalian. You Orientals who enjoy their technologically sophisticated, mostly homogenous societies have absolutely no clue and will not admit how unrelentingly subhuman vast brownoid swathes of the conglomerate called "humanity" really are, or "niggers" as I like to call them.

>>518532907 (OP)
I feel it, I don't have to check it anymore

>>518533047
Because the idea is that a growing economy can increase total welfare, which makes everyone better off. To offset deflation we also hover have around 2% inflation target (the 2% GDP growth and thus inflation target is completely arbitrary btw). However since the growth is unequally distributed, mostly centred in the top with low wage workers having basically no benefit, many people are actually worse off. Since they don't get the benefits from growth but still have to deal with the inflation decreasing their assets. If you even have assets in the first place of course. Since asset prices are continually rising, again making it so the poor are even more unable to buy them en the wealth of the rich increase even further.

So basically, it's to transfer the wealth of the average Joe to the Jews and the rich (aka white Jews) who just get richer

>>518569365
Mate... You keep conflating hardship with moral authority

Seeing suffering elsewhere doesn't erase the reality you depend on. You live in a system built by others's labor immigrants, workers, people you conveniently dismiss and you scream that it's unfair.

You posture as if you've seen some shit, but that doesn't give you a free pass to belittle everyone actually keeping the world running.
The irony is thick, You despise the system, yet you exploit its safety nets to lecture others about suffering. That's not wisdom. That's hypocrisy.

>>518569365
Ah, after I finished writing the post, a good line came to mind, so I added one more sentence, but by mistake, both the new sentence and the one before it got written twice.

>>518540193
based knowing. Every western country has sold itself to the debt jew and serving the jews ever increasing interest payments means you need to grow constantly or head to inevitable collapse.

>>518532941
Explain how Europe survived and thrived for the past 2000 years despite being so "poor". It seems to me like the more diverse it becomes the worse it becomes and the poorer everyone becomes.

>>518570046
>Mate... You keep conflating hardship with moral authority
No. I do not. Thats just what you assume I do because you want to construct a narrative that I am also at the same oblivious to the hardship of others around the world. I am not.
>Seeing suffering elsewhere doesn't erase the reality you depend on. You live in a system built by others's labor immigrants, workers, people you conveniently dismiss and you scream that it's unfair.
What makes you think I depend on it? Do you think I am so feeble and without agency and wits that I can not detach? Because I want to. And I can. And I will. I will make all you "hahahaha you complain yet you depend on it" shills eat your own words soon enough. Mark my words on it.
>You posture as if you've seen some shit, but that doesn't give you a free pass to belittle everyone actually keeping the world running.
A "world" of lies that is. A scam. A criminal enterprise.
>The irony is thick, You despise the system, yet you exploit its safety nets to lecture others about suffering. That's not wisdom. That's hypocrisy.
Again with this smug "you are no better and you are akshually a hypocrite so take that hahahahaha" petty garbage.
You will have to eat your own toxic, smug words about me soon enough. I have plans. And part of that plan is becoming so self-reliant that none of you can ever again spew your vicious, passive aggressive bile about "safety nets".
Your lies about "progress" will all die one day. This world will remain. Nature will annihilate us all no matter what you do. No matter if you antagonize here like rightoids do or if you try to sneakily pretend to bargain with her only to buy yourself more time to keep trying to rape her.
She is cruel. But just.

>>518532907 (OP)
>We must let immigrants in in order to increase the GDP and economy.

>>518532907 (OP)
>MUH STONKS!!!
>Number not go up
>You should sell out your future and happiness for short term quarterly gains

Yeah, no.
I have no stake in my home counrty or it's future because of immigration. I can't get an education, it used to be completely paid for at any academic level, can't buy a house, all the housing associations domestic and abroad own them all and jacked the pricing. Crime is at intollerable levels and my own government have made it a 'potential' hate crime or 'none crime hate incident' to complain about it.
I would settle for being content, can we at least have that? Or should we sell that off too?

>>518568484
>Children in Gaza worry about going hungry every day, and African slum-dwellers drink muddy water because clean water is out of reach.
Is it the ground those people are standing on that caused that or the bad idea's they follow?
Why would we want bad, destructive ideas in my country?

>>518532907 (OP)
Im personally fine with everyone getting nuked to death and the survivors living in a fallout style shithole if it means less brown people

>>518532907 (OP)
>>518532941
>>518532955
>>518533047
Niggers

>>518532907 (OP)
>Christine Lagarde is the President of the European Central Bank
>Check her early life
Europe is doomed if the JQ is not solved.

you can start adjusting your life in the knowledge that your country (every country) will soon be immersed in the same crab bucket of stifling cheapness, dishonesty and low trust that all these immigrants left behind. start caring now and you may not be overwhelmed later.
remember their population is maliciously under-reported. sheer numbers are the entire foundation of their "strategy" and they have enough undocumented surplus bodies to match/neutralize the populations of all "democracies" with globohomo agenda foot soldiers

>>518571584
You keep talking about detachment and self-reliance, but you're still using the words, the platform, the network, and the environment built by everyone else to assert your point.
You call the world a scam, yet you're participating in it right now. Denouncing it doesn't make you outside of it, it just makes you deluded.
You pretend nature will annihilate us all, but it's human labor, human cooperation, and yes, immigrant work that actually keeps society from collapsing while you philosophize.
You don't get a free pass to destroy others efforts because you fancy yourself some nihilist seer.

>>518532907 (OP)
>We absolutely will not give jobs to our own citizens.
Leftists used to be the ones angry about the owner class importing third world slave labor to undercut the working class.

>>518533047
This is the most antisemitic thing I've read on 4chan ever. I'm reporting this to the ADL.

>>518570037
And yet all GDP growth has done is forced a worsening standard of living on all but the wealthiest. If you republicans weren't all controlled by the Milton Friedman "number must go up forever" kike racket in the 80s we wouldn't be dealing with infinite taco people zerg rushing our border.

>>518532907 (OP)
she's right, you know
negative 30k Euro / year tax impact per nigger is still GPD

>>518532907 (OP)
I want the rehypothecation scam around real estate, ponzi paper shares of publuc subsidized companies and all other pyramid scheme of boomers and genX collapse

99%, at least back to 1993 levels.

Fuck Growth

Deflate and die BoomerX; I wont work a day for your debt and apparently Mohamed wont either

Usury (AKA monetary policy) has been a thing since Mesopotamia. Thing is people could always stop playing and move away.

Governments want to control everyone and everything so nobody can stop playing the game where they get defrauded every time

>>518532907 (OP)
>>518532907 (OP)
>>518532907 (OP)
Reminder that the "no tail" posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize furfag degeneracy across the board.
You're welcome.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990

>>518571584
I like you, glad you didnt sudoku

>>518533047
Oy vey hanz

>>518575616
This right here is what demoralization looks like.
You ridicule and shame me for not being able to detach from your shit system I and everyone is supposed to feel oh so giddy about. But the day I finally will be off your hook (and it's not far off) your smugness which will by then turn into impotent rage over my escape from your golden cage will mean less than nothing to me. I will be free. You and everyone like you will still be narcissistic, smug pieces of shit.
And I don't pretend she will annihilate most of us sooner or later. I know she will. You're the one in denial thinking you can work around it with technology and "green" energy. But you can't in the long run.
And who am I trying to destroy? You're all doing a good job already destroying each other and yourselves. Leftoids. Rightoids. Everything in between. You all deserve each other. That's the gist of my entire outlook. You all deserve each other.