Thread 518547812

Most Americans have ZERO clue this system exists. While you're forced to pay into retirement programs that may not exist, foreign graduates get 3 YEARS of tax-advantaged work in our most competitive job markets - keeping cash that's automatically taken from your paycheck.

THE MATH THAT HURTS AMERICANS:
• Tech salary: $200,000 (Google, Amazon, Meta)
• American graduate: Pays $13,818/year in payroll taxes $186,182 take-home
• Foreign graduate on work authorization: Pays $0 payroll taxes for 3 years $200,000 take-home
• That's $13,818 EXTRA CASH per year $41,454 total advantage

THE REAL HOUSING IMPACT:
This isn't about future benefits - this is about immediate buying power. In tech hubs like Austin, Seattle, and Bay Area:

>Even 100 foreign workers with this advantage = $4.1 MILLION in extra buying power
>They target the same starter homes and condos as American graduates
>Your forced payroll contributions become their down payment advantage
>They get liquid cash now while your money is locked in government programs

THE BOTTOM LINE:
They pay income tax like you do, but keep the 7.65% that's automatically taken from your paycheck.

This isn't about retirement security - it's about housing competition TODAY. That $41,454 head start lets them outbid you on homes RIGHT NOW.

This is why you're getting outbid.
This is why housing feels impossible.
This is the immediate cash advantage they don't want you to know about.

>>518547812 (OP)
Here's a foreign worker at a tech company (Oracle) asking a simple question:

>"I won the H1B visa lottery, but I have 2 more years of my student work permit. Should I DELAY getting my real work visa to avoid paying $10,000 in taxes?"

The comments tell you everything:

>"Just don't file it and save on taxes."
>"Deciding to apply later... can activate H1B few years later while still holding on to the lottery spot. Sorry."

THE SCAM, IN THEIR OWN WORDS:

1. They win the visa in the lottery.
2. They then INTENTIONALLY DELAY getting the visa for years.
3. Why? To keep their special "no payroll tax" status.
4. They openly discuss how to dodge thousands in taxes that YOU are forced to pay.

They see your Social Security and Medicare taxes as an optional fee to be avoided. They see our immigration system as a game to be manipulated.

This isn't a secret conspiracy. They're bragging about it right out in the open. They call it "saving on taxes." You call it getting screwed.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/got-h1b-in-first-year-skip-applying-to-avoid-fica-p3w52rnv

>>518547844
Here's a foreign worker on Reddit, complaining about finally having to pay the same taxes as you:

>"I just won the H1B visa lottery. Now that I have to start paying Social Security and Medicare taxes like an American, should I ask my company for a RAISE to cover it?"

The responses are even more telling:

>"Don't mention FICA... Just ask for a raise based on your performance... you can bring this up on the side."
>"Correct, nothing wrong in asking... but expect BIG eyerolls from HR. Gotta pay US taxes now unfortunately."

FICA stands for the Federal Insurance Contributions Act. This U.S. federal law mandates that employers withhold taxes from employee paychecks to fund Social Security and Medicare programs.

LET THAT SINK IN:

1. They get a multi-year tax break you never see.
2. The moment they're forced to contribute like everyone else, their first thought is, "How do I make my American employer cover my new tax bill?"
3. They strategize on how to hide the real reason and pretend it's about "performance."

They see paying into the system that funds our retirees and healthcare as a personal financial loss to be recovered. Not a civic duty. Not the cost of living in a first-world country. A pay cut.

This is the entitled mindset you're competing against.

https://www.reddit.com/r/h1b/comments/1cmqwc0/salary_increase_because_fica_taxes/

>>518547873
SOURCES (BECAUSE THEY'LL CALL YOU A CONSPIRACY THEORIST):

• IRS Tax Rule: F-1 students exempt from FICA taxes for 5 years
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes

• USCIS OPT Rules: 12 months standard + 24 month STEM extension = 3 years work authorization
https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-and-exchange-visitors/optional-practical-training-for-f-1-students

• Social Security Administration: Confirms 7.65% FICA tax rate for employees
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/taxRates.html

• National Association of Realtors: Foreign buyers purchased $53.3 billion in US property (2023)
https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-statistics/research-reports/2023-profile-of-international-buyers-in-u-s-residential-real-estate

• Bloomberg: Indians are top foreign homebuyers in US, driven by tech workers
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-01/indians-are-biggest-foreign-buyers-of-us-homes-as-workers-flock

>>518547812 (OP)
>find rural low cost of living area
>build factory
>import and employ beaners for peanuts
>beaners only ones able to afford local housing
>area becomes Los Goblinas

Strong thread start, have a bump.

why am i subsidizing foreigners?

>>518547812 (OP)
We need to investigate the IRS for allowing this kind of scam to continue. An un American scam that intentionally hurts American citizens why they pay to support it.

Also hunt down and make all of those H1 whatever pay up all the back tax they owe. With inflation and interest on top of that. If you’re in this country and you’re making money you’re paying into social security and Medicare.

I don’t care if you’re a student, you’re benefit from the wealth and power of America, you are going to pay up one way or another.

Can’t believe I pay taxes for this kind of bullshit. We need DHS, ICE, and FBI to focus on traitors in the IRS.

Deport deport deport

>>518547812 (OP)
>>518547844
>>518547873
>>518547908
“that makes make me smart”
- DJT on not paying taxes

why hide the inherent racism

>>518551748
Bro it’s not just you, there’s plenty other groups doing the same thing.

Here’s a hint, react less to this, let the other ones get pissed so they start screaming and that will take the attention and heat off you.

>>518551163
They send most of their money home to pay for their primitive shaman medicine.

>>518547812 (OP)
>American graduate: Pays $13,818/year in payroll taxes

You're referring to just Social Security and Medicare taxes. Federal and State income tax withholding are also "payroll taxes" you mongoloid. You're too stupid to even understand the terms you're using. You can't use them with precision. I'm not listening to your schizo conspiracy theories. What's next, are you gonna tell us how to "fill out a new W-2?"

>>518547873
>They see paying into the system that funds our retirees and healthcare as a personal financial loss to be recovered. Not a civic duty. Not the cost of living in a first-world country. A pay cut.

That's exactly what Social Security and Medicare are. It's welfare for boomers. We'll never see any of it. It's one giant scam. But anytime someone brings it up, they get voted out by the boomer demographic. There's no fixing the system, it has to fail.

What you're saying about FICA exemption for those on a visa are true - they don't have to pay into a system they CAN'T GET BENEFITS FROM. H1B visa holders can't draw Social Security benefits. That's how tax policy works around the world. If you as an American go to work in UK for 2 years you won't have to pay into their social insurance scheme either.

If they stay long enough and become a green card holder, they become eligible for benefits and have to pay in.

>>518551748
poo in the loo shitskin