Thread 518553559

I'm tired of pretending that Catholicism isn't the only valid religion.

The only way to go directly to Heaven is through the Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church.

>>518553559 (OP)
This is now a Jehovah's Witness thread. AMA.

My problem with Catholicism is:
1. Praying to saints
2. Believing that Mary is divine
3. Believing the Pope is infallible

Jesus said the only way to the Father is through the Son, not the only way to the Father is through the Church.

>>518553559 (OP)
Convince me why catholicism is better religion than myriad of other religions we have on earth, without using arguments that could easily be copied by believers of other religions.

>>518554315
You guys have the same child sex abuse scandals as the Catholics do. Pedophile.

>>518553559 (OP)
Jesus loves you enough to want you to neuter yourself. Surrender your heart and reproductive parts to the lord!

>>518553559 (OP)
>The only way to go directly to Heaven is through the Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church.
Man does not require a stone building and a man in a collar to receive the blood of Christ, Anon.

>>518555070
No, but they need that to wield power over you and browbeat you into an obedient little paypig.

>>518554816
it built the best societies to live in

>>518554574
>Praying to saints
We pray to saints not as if they were God. We pray for them to help us because they have more intimacy with God than we do.
2. Believing that Mary is divine
The Virgin Mary is the mother of Jesus, it is obvious that she has a divine role.
3. Believing the Pope is infallible
The Pope is infallible to the extent that he is the right person to be Pope, not that he cannot make mistakes.

>Jesus said the only way to the Father is through the Son, not the only way to the Father is through the Church.

The only way to the Son is through his Church.

>>518554574
It ought to be everyone's problem with the church.

>>518553559 (OP)
>The only way to go directly to Heaven is through the Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church.
Unless you're jewish, because the church says so and if you convert you have to believe everything the Church says so I'm just not going to do it.

>>518554945
Our pedophile problem is only random, circumstancial and case-by-case bases. It is not an organized trafficking of children into the hands of pedophiles by (((missionaries))). There is no evidence of JW ever trying to traffic "orphans" into other countries. Whenever a JW is discovered to have been a child molester they are removed from all privileges, outcasted, and exiled from among us. There is no evidence that the Watchtower Tract Society of JW tried to compensate victims with money to stay silent or tried to transfer convicted missionies, elders, and overseers to other Kingdom Halls only to repeat the same cycle there. If any of this happened you would have known about this because everyone hates JW and anything proven among us would be sensationalized in the MSM.

Unlike the Catholic Church, Islam and Scientology, JW organization has no power nor powerful connections with any elites. Therefore, if we had that problem the feds would have kicked down our doors years ago and confiscated us same as how Russia confiscated our properties and shut us down. We would have been shut down and liquidated like NXIVM a long time ago by now.

>>518553559 (OP)
Catholics were the first Protestants and it is an antichrist institution. You are a heretic.

>>518553559 (OP)
That's not true.

The heart will be judged.

>>518555645
Yes, Catholics do worship idols whether they will admit it or not. They play semantics and call it "intercession" of Saints. They pray to them, throw money at them, do hand gestures at them, kneel to them, cry to them, and kiss them. I know because I'm a former Catholic myself.

>(Acts 10:25, 26) As Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell down at his feet and did obeisance to him. 26But Peter lifted him up, saying: “Rise; I myself am also a man.”

>(Acts 17:29) “Seeing, therefore, that we are the progeny of God, we ought not to imagine that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and contrivance of man.

>(2 Corinthians 5:7) for we are walking by faith, not by sight.

>(Psalm 78:58) And they kept offending him with their high places, And with their graven images they kept inciting him to jealousy.

>(Isaiah 42:8) “I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.

>>518554574
>problem

oh you have no idea m8

>little brother thinks he hears "god" talking with em in dreams

>telling em to go into a literal satan church in town to "convert" them thinking they won't harm him

>tell him again & again don't be stupid & think about the damage "those" people can do do him

>ignores me & gets beaten up anyway

>somehow this was all a test of his faith & he thinks he didn't do anything wrong

>>518555910
No they're not you lying snake. Your attorneys have paid hush money. There's no excusing your way around that. You're a fraud. Also, you're not even supposed to be here.

>>518555645
>We pray to saints not as if they were God. We pray for them to help us because they have more intimacy with God than we do.
By doing that, you are removing the central role that Christ plays. Christ is the intermediary; he is the one mankind was given.

>>518553559 (OP)
True

>>518555645
always funny watching a c*tholic try to rationalize the jewish nonsense their "church" perpetuates
you lap it up so eagerly and even defend it

>>518553559 (OP)
Men do not have the answer for we are not divine.
Remember this and be humble.

>>518555910
Got nothing to say for yourself? You lying scumbag. Christians are scum of the earth. The most vile, amoral people that will lie about any atrocity if it makes them look better. Absolute filth.

>>518555645
Church said Jews don't need Jesus, specifically Jesuit Jews helping write V2. So do you trust Church authority or not?

>>518553559 (OP)
i'm tired of pretending godcucks are not delusional cowards

>>518555199
Simply untrue; I asked God if he needed money and he said no.

>>518556988
Because they thought it was worthless to embrace the true knowledge of God, God gave them over to a worthless mindset. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, fornication, adultery, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious behavior. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventing new ways to sin, disobedient to parents, resentful, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless, worldly. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

These people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

>>518553559 (OP)
The Holy Catholic Church is the only church, the only religion, and the only faith. Even those who are outside the Catholic Church who are Christians (as in those of true faith) participate in the Catholic Church without realizing it. All of protestantism is a false diversionary sect, a broken branch, counter-church set up to serve the needs of men who used it to invent new reasons to ignore the divine order and seek their own worldly goals of power and wealth. Though some protestants are saved despite their impossible ignorance of the true faith (as salvation is God's will alone), it is right for anyone who can see the truth to come home now. Do not live your life as if "it doesn't matter which church you go to, or if you go at all" when you know that many so called churches twist the truth for their own purpose and lead people towards a "modernist Christianity" that makes the faith lukewarm and void of righteousness. Please seek the fullness of the faith which comes only through our Lord and his Holy Catholic Church.
Love you, bro.

I live in American and when I was a kid they used to call our church an Irish Roman Catholic Apostolic Church. Is that really a thing? Real ethnic euro area, so there were decidedly Polish, Lithuanian, Czech, etc. Roman Catholic churches. What does it mean?

>>518553559 (OP)
no pointing in arguing, just look at history. Catholicism built civilization and protestantism destroyed it.

Moderates

>>518554574
God loves the saints and Mary. Mary is the new ark of the covenant and retroactively was made sinless. The pope is the foundation of the church set by Jesus using Peter and it mimics the structure of the world that God imposed on it

Take that Satan !

>>518553559 (OP)
I'm so fucking tired of retards mixing religion and politics.

>>518554315
>Throws blood in your face.

>>518559996
I've heard the arguments for your statements and they seem pretty weak. But why does denying your statements damn someone to hell?

>>518554945
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>>518556988
Don't reply to that retard. If you check the archive all he does is evade questions and pretend it didn't happen.

>>518553559 (OP)
You're right. It isn't a valid religion. No jewish superstition is. The only valid religions have more than one god and hinduism isn't one of them.

>>518559316
"Irish Catholic" is Roman Catholic, generally anything with the suffix Catholic is a part of the whole Catholic Church (though there are pretenders out there), the name "Catholic" means "universal" as in the one church for all the world, with Rome being its head and the standardizing force, and the other more "folk-Catholic" traditions included in their own context, not contrary to Rome but having some traditions unique to their own lands. Irish Catholic today just implies that that particular church serves a mostly Irish congregation or has an Irish priest, or that the person saying it about themselves is linking themselves to Irelands long devotion to Catholicism. In the old days, Irish Catholics had some unique traditions and customs of their own that are today more preserved in Ireland than in USA. The designation "Irish Catholic" is a colloquial expression today, but at one point in early America the Irish were considered low class and would face some discrimination if they attended a French run Catholic church or otherwise, and so it used to be that Irish people made it a point to attend Mass given by Irish priests who were sure to be with them in their efforts to help the Irish rise to an equal place in American society.

Catholicism is the Judaism of Christianity

>>518560707
>why does denying your statements damn someone to hell?
It doesn't, you don't need to believe everything the Catholic Church has said, only that which is of the apostolic age is that which is necessary for salvation, but all that has happened since then is helpful for belief and true, whether you'd like to embrace or not will not damn you to Hell (being disgusting and towards those who do will more likely put you in danger of Hell). Consider Saint Thomas Aquinas, he has a whole theology to himself, do you need to read all of Saint Thomas' works to understand Catholicism otherwise you might go to Hell? Certainly not. Do you need to be Catholic to go to Heaven? No, but it is the only way to Heaven, and you should go and become Catholic now. If you would take the time to understand why that sounds confusing you will be that much closer to conversion.

>>518553559 (OP)
Yes
OP is based beyond all comprehension. I really hope its the same india hate monke. This thread would make him the most based brazilian on 4chinz ....there with dormogenes, bgc spammer, and all the barneyfag posters, fuck even early chris chan.

>>518562581
No, your evangelical christ cuck prot churches that give their money to pisrael is.

>>518553559 (OP)
The only true Catholics left are Sedevacantists. Anyone that listens to the pope after Vatican 2 is a sodomite retard. It's a dead religion.

>>518553559 (OP)
>the road to heaven is paved in blood & blasphemy
seems about right

>>518553559 (OP)
yeah i doubt a single brazilian has ascended to heaven
your whole mongral race is fucked bruh

>>518564152
Absurd and propagandapilled. Stop listening to supposedly Catholic e-celebs who are paid to promote and perpetuate controversy. They lead people away from the church with ultimatums that grow ever more complex with each show and hyped filled guffaw. The sedevacantists are protestant by definition "in protest of the Catholic Church", they are not "the real Catholics" just like actual protestants are not "the real Christians".

>>518554574
Sounds like you're just Anglican.