Thread 518564911

Why are Republicans so fucking stupid?

>>518564911 (OP)
to appeal to voters
most voters are fucking stupid

>>518564911 (OP)
But that Republican is correct though...
I don't understand Chris's thought process here. Or yours.

>>518564911 (OP)
Uh, the republican is right.

>>518564911 (OP)
Leftism is a form of contrarian mental illness.

>>518565239
Windmills and solar panels garness zero point energy from dark matter u retard

>>518564911 (OP)
We're reaching levels of gaslighting previously thought impossible.

>>518564911 (OP)
They literally don't though

Solar panels work in total darkness.
t. Solar cell researcher.
They actually turn more light into power when there is no light at all.

>>518565239
>>518565293
He means flyover retards don't understand the concept of batteries.

>>518564911 (OP)
Wait so how does that work?

>>518565461
A fucking medpack.

>>518565191
>>518565239
>>518565293
>>518565338
>>518565429
>>518565437
>>518565511
They're called batteries. Dumbass.

>>518564911 (OP)
Stupid people are everywhere. If you lump an entire group of people as stupid, that makes you stupid too

>>518565239
op is just trolling stupid shit

>>518564911 (OP)
Look at that retarded zoomer in the corner

>>518564911 (OP)
is this a troll?

>>518565502
Batteries are expensive and not energy dense enough with current technology levels. Plus the resources to build such batteries would require far more heavier and dirtier industries than we currently have.
So the republican is still correct.

>>518565568
Oil is a battery

>>518565461
they actually use power (a tiny bit in the watt-range) when it is dark because the system as a whole (inverters etc) use a tiny bit of power

it is insignificant but it is there if you measure their output

>>518565568
If windmills had batteries then why do they need to use diesel engines to get them moving?

>>518565706
There are only two forms of energy that work (beyond hydroelectric, since every place a dam could be put to produce electricity already has one there), hydrocarbons and nuclear.
All else is unworkable.

>>518565568
>>518565502
Using previously stored power is not the same thing as generating power.
It is the battery that is working, not the generator.

>but what if the wind stops
don't worry about it goy

>>518565627
Maybe, guess depends?
Solar works if its cloudy as long as its day, lower efficiency but it works
Same for windmills, they always work because the blades are huge and air is always moving even if you dont feel "wind"
So depends what level of technical and nitpicky you are being
He is 100% right if you assume she meant low light days and no wind days, and not, nighttime

>>518565989
You retard. How do you think a small breeze is going to start moving these? Reminder, each blade is longer and heavier than a semi truck.

>>518565948
>>518565882
Good lord, what a fucking scam, and they look like shit too, they completely ruined the beautiful landscape in western maryland.

>>518564911 (OP)
guess when there was no wind

>>518565989
>Same for windmills, they always work because the blades are huge and air is always moving even if you dont feel "wind"
Are you actually retarded? So wind that is so gentle that it can’t turn a weathervane is going to turn massive steel blades and churn a megawatt generator?

guess when it's dark

>>518565948
>chatgpt
lol brainrot

>>518565429
Seems like that might be the intent, although you have to wonder who is being gaslit at this point: the public who are quickly losing all faith in politicians, or the politicians who have to feign sincerity while performing such a clown act.

>>518565881
very believable.
Actually, putting some power into them and taking very long time exposures (multiple hours at least, in a dark room), was used as feedback regarding finding out issues.
They work as kind of an LED in reverse.

>>518565568
are leftists this retarded for real?
wind mills do not generate energy when there is no wind
solar panels do not generate energy when there is no sun
dispensing accumulated energy in a battery, is not the same as generating energy

>>518565502
>>518565568
Batteries are complete dogshit. The most "revolutionary leap" they've gone through is not dropping the charge as much when not in use. They were always dogshit, in fact Tesla himself said battery cars would be impractical and here were are subsidizing cars bastardizing his name.

>>518566547
It's the google shit, I've never used chatGPT, also it's not wrong.

w/o sun or wind those batteries will be empty like your faggot skulls, brown tards...

>>518566321
I'm more in favor of personal solar use than windmils.

If renewable energy is a hoax by the Chinese to make America weak, as these Republicans often say it is, why is China installing more renewables than anyone else?

>>518564911 (OP)
That is correct though. That said, solar panels are pretty good these days and worth looking into.

>>518565502
>>518565568
>muh batteries
The eternal cope of greenthink faggots for their unbearably shitty unreliable energy sources.
The only objectively efficient and reliable form of solar energy is building a dyson sphere. Wind will never be efficient or reliable. Go fuck yourself.

>>518565461
Shut the fuck up Pratykush, you stupid fucking streetshitting pajeet retard.

>>518565882
Because the blades are huge? What a dumbass

>>518564911 (OP)
I love my night solar and windless wind windturbines
Why are conservatives so anti-science?

>>518567756
You sound like an incompetent glowie fishing for more info.

>>518565461
Thats true
Just like people with fat genes cant lose weight even if they stop eating
Its basic science

>>518567692
You're dumb too, you put them where there's constant wind like on a coast or in gaps of mountains

>>518568073
How will people living everywhere else on the planet get energy from wind?
>muh batteries mufugga

>>518568153
Fucking wires you retard.

>>518568153
How do people in the desert get hydroelectric power? They don't. Wtf is wrong with you?

>>518568219
I'm sure there are extension cords to send power from timbuktu to antarctica, retarded nigger.
Unless you are willing to build nuclear reactors, you are admitting that your fetish for green renewable energy is a grift.

>>518567692
who told you the power was unreliable?

>>518565502
>>518565568
Batteries have massive energy loss and are not suitable for running entire grids. Ask the European countries that literally cannot use all the energy that gets generated with solar or wind. It's a complete and total scam

>>518568357
The laws of physics.
>solar stops producing useful amounts of energy every single night

>>518567885
Don't need any more info. Swiss flag + dumbshit jeetpost = (You).
I can't believe you are still coming back to this website after constantly doxxing yourself you pooskin dalit.

>>518566321
A windmill over its useful lifespan will use an order of magnitude less petroleum products to produce the same amount of energy a gas or diesel generator would. You fell for the propaganda.

>>518568439
And gas powered electrical production plants stop when you run out of gas, what's your point?

>>518568674
I have control over the amount of gas I use. I can't turn the sun back on if I want my air conditioning to work at night.

>>518568674
And they can reliably operate 24/7. Solar and wind cannot.

>>518565502
>>518565568
battery manufacturing destroys the environment more than BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL power generation does

>>518564911 (OP)
Solar panels are based.

>cover heating and cooling while you're out
>Most of NA gets more sun than Europe
>Provides an insulating air gap between roof

>>518564911 (OP)
Should have installed moon panels.

>>518564911 (OP)
Do people here think they will charge a battery that powers a city? They turn the gas turbines on when the green ones go slack. Jesus christ

>>518564911 (OP)
Because smart people don't like the Republican party

>>518564911 (OP)
They store energy for when it's dark/there's no wind, but they're horridly inefficient. Windmills in particular take about as much/more energy to build than they'll ever generate in their operational lifetimes.

One or two nuclear plants would generate more energy in a month than most green nonsense will in years.

>>518568761
Solar works 24/7 on the north and south poles for 2 months a year

>>518568754
>>518568761
It's called a battery bank retard

>>518568785
I love the sound of batteries going "plop" in the mornings when they get thrown in the ocean.

>>518565293
ALTERNATIVE FACTS

MEANWHILE CHYNA BURNS THE COAL INTO THE ATMOSPHERE ALL DAY AND NIGHT

TIME FOR CHYNA TO PAY THE TOLL

I believe in solar as a passive way to take the load of the grid in the summer.
But windmills is a total scam, windmills that reach breakeven by the end of their lifespan are rare.

>>518568533
He should be be left alone.
He never had the social skills to understand that he was damaging his cause.
I wish he came back.

>>518568963
>muh batteries!

>>518568963
I'm sure you must be joking, but please, you're making my head hurt.

>>518568761
Wind can, solar can too if theyre in the desert, oil and gas plants can only be run when there's fuel which is subject to market fluctuations

>>518568963
You mean the ones that catch fire every week and we have no way of extinguishing them?
Those battery plants?

Have you seen the stories of the 3 super cargo ships carrying electric cars that caught fire and sunk?

>>518568877
How many metropolitans are in those places with things like highways and such?
>>518569032
It's literally too unreliable. I cannot comprehend how retards ITT are unironically suggesting to set up the grid to run off batteries. How fuckin stupid can you even be?

>>518565568
>>518565377
>>518565502
>>518568646

You people don't even understand the snakeoil products you shill for.

If batteries are useful as you people make out then the US would not be exporting lng to europe. US is now the number one lng exporter in the world, because renewables don't work as well as advertised.

Have scientists and manufacturers work together to make a good product first before getting mad over people not buying what you are selling.

>>518569150
You don't think solar panels and windmills are subject to market fluctuations? Seems like stupid pill time.

>>518569032
All you have to do is replace the guts occasionally and windmills can produce for decades

>>518569023
Recently a dude who is a total leftist told me china is the most green nation in the world.
I told him china opens a new coal plant every week.
Dude told me to stop reading fake news and i'm too young to understand.
And i played it really safe, i'm good at hiding my power level around normies.
I hate lefties.

>>518567534
>why is China installing more renewables than anyone else?

How much of these renewables are hydro dams? The three gorges dam alone generates 20 000 megawatt.

Actually geothermal is the way to go. They are turning abandoned mines in Siberia into poweplants that can supply small villages

>>518569228
It's sunny all day in the desert clown

>>518567534
>why is China installing more renewables than anyone else?
They aren't, you're just an incredibly stupid individual that takes things you see on tik tok at face value

>>518569300
Not after you've built them genius, you think building a power plant isn't subject to market fluctuations?

>>518569343
cool story bro really epic

>>518569513
Thanks for reading my blog.

This thread truely made lose faith in 4chan. I just hope its trolling, or they are women - this is elementary.

>>518569150
>at night there is sun in the desert
Anon, I…

>>518569116
concession accepted
>>518569122
no not joking, windmills/solar etc. + batteries are a real energy solution in a lot of cases
>>518569218
yes batteries are more prone to fire, but the fires that occur are less damaging than the ones at gas-fired power plants

>>518569023
13% hydro, impressive
they need to bump nuclear to 50% and they are golden

>>518569504
You really are serious, aren't you!!!

>>518569343
Sounds like my stepdad
>we really need electric cars they so great
>huh?
>Just look a China they got EVs!
>Why would I want to emulate what a shit hole communist country is doing?
>*radio silence*

>>518569343
LEFTOIDS ARE STUPID MORANS

THEY WILL EAT ZE BUGS WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT

NOTICE HOW GRETTA NEVER PROTESTS IN BEIJING
CHYNA THE WORLDS WORST POLLUTER BY FAR

>>518566715
>They work as kind of an LED in reverse.
they don't work as a kind of LED. LEDs and solar panels are the same device fundamentally, just optimized for different operating modes. if it can emit it can absorb and vice versa.

>>518569665
>windmills/solar etc. + batteries are a real energy solution in a lot of cases
for your toaster and washing machine maybe, try running aluminium smelting out of batteries

>>518569352
They get a lot of power from hydro and also a lot from wind and solar. Until recently it was mostly hydro but now they get more energy from wind+solar than hydro. This is very easy to find information.

>>518569758
That's what nuclear is for

>>518569665
>yes batteries are more prone to fire, but the fires that occur are less damaging than the ones at gas-fired power plants
Im obvious nta but you genuinely think hooking up our power grid to fuckin BATTERIES is a good idea? Society isn't like your fuckin gameboy you dumb fuck

>>518569665
>yes batteries are more prone to fire, but the fires that occur are less damaging than the ones at gas-fired power plants

You are a fucking retard who should never reproduce

>>518569665
You realise, to me you're like a child asking where the sun goes at night time? You're functionally retarded.

>>518569821
I didn't say one thing about the power grid retard

>>518569694
You think building a power plant cost more or less after tariffs?

>>518564911 (OP)
it ALL depends on the phrase "...don't work..."

If OP had provided a clear definition of those two words, within this context, everyone would be in agreement.
But there'd be no thread.

Slide this clickbait nonsense.

>no windmills aren't subject to market fluctuations after you build them
>all you have to do is continuously replace parts and service windmills over time
Are these retards elaborately baiting? Anyone unironically this dangerously stupid needs to take a bullet to the head to protect civilization from their stupidity.

>>518569758
>washing machine maybe
Not even, I know a guy that's tried to do the whole off grid thing and despite spending lots of money and getting reasonably self-sufficient, the amount of average daily shit that he has to ration out to months (as if this is the 16th century again) if he wants to keep power. So yeah, he can run ovens, small tvs, charge his battery powered tools, etc. But his wife has to wash clothes like a fuckin peasant 300 years ago

>>518569840
Refute my argument then faggot
>>518569849
Your country runs on 30% wind power retard go outside

>>518569925
You have to replace parts and service power stations as well, and on top of that you need to continuously buy fuel.

>>518569878
What are you even talking about? Are you a woman?

>>518565882
lol not only that, but they need diesel engines to keep the components from freezing, oh and the refrigerant used in windmills is an evil CFC that if released through failure of the windmill is the equivalent of loosing 10+million cans of (insert substance propelled w/CFC's) into the atmosphere.

>>518569728
And the biggest reason that China is investing in wind/solar etc is not because it’s a good or efficient source of power generation. It’s because the are reliant on on coal and oil imports.

>>518564911 (OP)
Why are you ghey op?

>>518569855
You brought it up as a retort to fossil fuels you dumb animal do you even comprehend what youre arguing in favor of?

>>518564911 (OP)
he's right though, looks like YOURE the retard.

>>518570031
They still use over an order of magnitude less petroleum products over their useful life when compared to a gas or diesel generator providing the same power, factoring in production, shipping, assembly, operation and maintenance.

>>518570006
Nobody was trying to argue you don't have to spend money for reliable and efficient forms of power. It's the special nigger brained retards who are making the claim that global warmthink energies are some magical free fairy dust that are so great and will fix everything.

>>518569981
>Your country runs on 30% wind power retard go outside
>he actually believes this redditor nonsense
hahahahahahaha
https://www.ft.com/content/26765b45-ca67-495a-b82d-c2a435773280

>>518569878
Do you think building a windmill, or solar panels, is more expensive after tarrifs? What, in the world, do you think the point you're making is?

>>518569925
>can't dispute the argument
>debate the minutae

>>518564911 (OP)
This is so far beyond retardation it is shocking. The solar panels aren’t generating power when they’re not stealing electrons from photons; nor are windmills generating power when they’re not spinning a magnet around a coil. That energy is stored in a battery. It’s the battery that is providing the power. And this guy has the audacity to say the other side is stupid? Fucking hell. Ruled by retards.

>>518570190
>links to a paid shill site
kill yourself luddite boomer

>>518570049
it's not even that, china is the biggest player in the carbon credit scam.
Multinationals can buy "carbon credits"
So a company builds a thousand windmills in china, and sells the carbon score on the market.
A company in the US who has really bad carbon emmission problems buys these and now has a net positive emission on paper.
It's a massive lie, and on top of that, china doesnt actually build these windmills, they are only real on paper.
It's globalists scamming the system.

>>518570347
https://sustainabilitymag.com/news/octopus-energy-launches-ticker-to-expose-wind-energy-waste

https://highviewpower.com/news_announcement/uk-energy-security-undermined-by-lack-of-energy-storage-capabilities/

https://wastedwind.energy/2025-10-10

Its literally common knowledge. Perhaps your cultist mind is too saturated with dogshit

>>518568073
you're full of shit or retarded if you think there's constant wind anywhere around coastal areas, i live on a bay w/a windfarm they put up 8 years ago about 10 miles away, they are already tearing it down because of lack of wind in a supposed "windy coastal area"...

>>518570347
>luddite boomer
I love how you children complain about income inequality, inflation, etc. while being too fucking stupid to realize every single thing you fags want implemented curiously comes at the cost of the middle and lower class.. Every single time.

>>518570286
Its not stored in a battery!!! None of these super batteries exist...please stop

>>518568219
No

>>518564911 (OP)
>America has actually broke the principle of conservation of energy and didn't tell anyone
>solar panels and windmills are actually zero point energy machines
These illiterate midwife Science niggers tell some amazing fairy tales. Next they'll tell you cow burps are causing global warming despite the ruminant population being at an all time low due to humans wiping out massive herds of ruminants.

>>518570565
I'm middle class and pay taxes so you can live on disability

>>518570134
doesn't matter as they nor solar will ever produce energy @ a rate anywhere remotely near as cheap as coal/nuclear...there's no comparison in the economy of scale for fossil fuel/nuke compared to hippy shit

>>518570569
It's stored in a battery and these amazing batteries will be so amazing and have such great capacity and reliability in theory that all of our problems will be solved we just need to enact total global communism and then these batteries will be invented and society will be a utopia.

>>518569978
there are off-grid setups that work but they require a lot of land, maintenance and money to replace every 10 years
I know a guy that used water solar panels, he had hot water spring to autumn, winter was still on solid fuel
he had a lot of wood so was able to run it "for free", just time spent on chopping it all
I once visited him for 3 days to fill wood storage, 3 of us working 16h to have wood for winter
I use log burner to supplement gas heating, works well with wood leftovers I have but to rely only on it 100% would be too much work

>>518570642
If you're middle class and infavor of the green energy take over, you are a certified retarded person

>>518570541
It's really very simple
>Coastal winds work due to the differential heating of land and water. During the day, the land heats up faster than the water, creating warmer, less dense air over the land that rises. This causes cooler, denser air from the sea to flow in, creating an onshore sea breeze. At night, the process reverses as the land cools faster than the water, causing warmer air over the sea to rise and cooler air from the land to flow offshore, creating a land breeze.

>>518570692
>solar will ever produce energy @ a rate anywhere remotely near as cheap as coal/nuclear...there's no comparison in the economy of scale for fossil fuel/nuke compared to hippy shit
That just isn't true.

Don't worry fellas, whenever the green energy fails we can just haul the big ol stinky inefficient generators out for a while, completely negating our pretend environmental friendliness (which only works if you ignore the disastrous mining/manufacturing/disposal part of this tech)
Sure, some old people and children die of exposure in the meantime but it's worth it for my subsidized green tech tax exempt corporation to thrive at everyone else's expense!

>>518570771
>if you're in favor of this thing you didn't say but I imagined you saying you're dumb
Okay RETARD

>>518570286
lol this reminds me of my 10th grade science teacher, think it was intro to physics n chem, told us all that TV's took more power off than on. i talked so much shit making fun of my dumb ass teacher every single time I came to class and laughed so hard day after day @ him that they made me switch classes.

>>518570286
>dis nigga actually believes they save the energy in a battery
No they don't the energy goes into the grid it isn't saved fucking retard.

>>518567534
Same reason they run millions of miles of empty trains and built cities no one lives in.

>>518564911 (OP)
This is like democrats thinking light rail will take trucks off the road.

>>518570828
>>solar will ever produce energy @ a rate anywhere remotely near as cheap as coal/nuclear...there's no comparison in the economy of scale for fossil fuel/nuke compared to hippy shit
>That just isn't true.
Agreed, imagine believing solar will ever produce energy like that.

>>518565568
My car has a battery. Is it accurate to say it is running when there is no gas in the tank? No, moron

>>518570757
Funny enough the same "green energy" people want to outlaw wood furnaces too, right?

>>518570864
>Im not a green energy redditor, its just a coincidence that all my arguments line up with one!

>>518570802
lmao tell that to the company that went tits up in under a decade
>>518570828
source? ya i didn't think so faggot. i pay 9.13 cents/kwh solely because i live 10 minutes away from south texas nuclear project. you cannot get electricity cheaper anywhere in america

>>518571007
>my black and white worldview is real
kill yourself retarded nigger

>>518570828
Mate, stop being retarded

>>518564911 (OP)
And they work?

>>518569733
Really?

>>518565568
That's an entirely different matter. Germany for example doesn't have the needed batteries.

>>518564911 (OP)
If we ship all the browns and their worshippers to Africa and start right now, we could have nuclear everything in a week.

>>518570828
I cannot comprehend how you faggots unironically believe we're going to have some panels or bullshit the size of an xbox that sustains a fuckin hospital or some shit. Where do you get this fantasy from?

>>518571052
>>my black and white worldview is real
Lol I'm not your mother go argue with her cry baby

>>518565502
>>518565568
batteries arent windmills or solar panels. The statement is correct

>>518570084
>he's right

Lol you think the Republican nominee is a man. It's a nigger woman. And the Lt. Gov candidate is a literal faggot

>>518565568
>Wind generators are batteries
>Solar generators are batteries
????

>>518564911 (OP)
because they are jew worshipping, nigger loving, christians - IE bleeding heart cucks.

>>518571296
There are no batteries, when there's slack, they turn on the gas. Repeat, there are no batteries.

>>518564911 (OP)
lol but they don't?
>>518565239
>>518565293
only thing I can think of is maybe they're referring to battery storage, IE solar panels can generate electricity in the day and then store energy in the night. But that has limitations and efficiency cost (especially in a northern winter where it's dark for a long time) and even then the solar panel itself is not generating electricity so the Republican is still right.
And with windmills you can have multiple days of no/low wind in a row so batteries wouldn't be enough.

Another issue is that long-distance energy transmission is less efficient IE if you generate from a wind farm in a windy area and then send that energy to someplace 1000 miles away, you lose a lot of the electricity in the process.

I love renewable energy and believe we need more of that and less fossil fuels. But we also need to be realistic about the limitations

>>518564911 (OP)
saved

>>518564911 (OP)
did the idiot coward delete the tweet

>>518572269
1) Developing countries have far fewer emissions than Europe and the US
2) "They" do tell other countries not to pollute. Those countries just don't care. Pic-related, Greta Thunberg told China to lower their emissions. China responded by calling her fat.

>>518566855
Miggers have low IQs, as do leftist faggots. None of you have ever taken basic physics or engineering courses. Miggers power wash their toes off for a living after dropping out of high school, leftists waste four years debating made up gender ideology before serving coffee to toeless tradiemiggers.

You’re all low IQ subhumans and we don’t need you. Actively generating energy and “working” are not quite the same thing. A solar panel grid is still able to provide energy to your house when it’s raining because excess energy can be stored. It can only do this for so long and is therefore an unreliable main power source in climates where there are more overcast days than sunny ones. Both your stupid miggers and your stupid leftists are defending absurd falsehoods based on half truths. KILL YOURSELF SUB-IQ NIGGERFAGGOT

>>518572843
>pic-related

>>518572064
Rare nuanced take that isn’t just blindly defending king migger or defending politically convenient pseudoscience. Green energy is good to have around, there’s no good reason not to extract literally free energy from the wind and sun. It is also not as reliable as fossil fuels and has very real limitations, so we will always need some amount of fossil fuels for the foreseeable future.

See how easy it is to make true statements when you’re not a brainwashed cultist partisan faggot and just believe what your eyes tell you? Take notes, miggers and leftists.

>>518565502
>>518565568
there are no batteries
everyone just turns on the coal or natural gas at night
you can't just pretend grid energy storage exists when it doesn't

>>518568219
>wires
>PG&E Says It Probably Caused the Fire That Destroyed Paradise, Calif.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/business/energy-environment/pge-camp-fire.html
https://archive.is/xor0e

>>518573229
I can’t tell if you’re a troll or a lying faggot or an actual retard. Really hard to tell with how low IQ this board has become.

>>518568963
they don't exist
they just turn on the coal and natural gas at night
stop pretending grid storage exists when you know it doesn't
all you have are theoretical technologies with no implementation after decades and billions of dollars
liars

>>518564911 (OP)
They don't though.
He's talking about the batteries that can hold energy, not about the solar panel and the windmill.

>>518565568
Holy smoothbrain idont even know what you're trying to imply

>>518573376
you don't know do you
they've been theorizing about battery banks, pumped storage, running trains up and down mountains
literally none of this is implemented despite billions of dollars being spent in CA, UK, germany
I can't believe you didn't know that
>troll lying faggot retard low IQ
does this help with your cognitive dissonance about depending on technologies that you know don't exist?

>>518565502
May we see these batteries?
Because all I know is the vaunted wind farms aren't even running in parts of my country because there's not enough profit in producing energy with them.
That's right, even with European prices turning my powerbill 2000% higher than it was, the owners of the wind farms don't find it profitable to even run them.
And batteries? lol. Nowhere.

>>518573478
>the batteries
this isn't implemented anywhere, it turns out it can only be done at scale "in theory"
it's been 30 years since my state went with wind and solar and we still need LNG at night

>>518573478
they dont exist in the real world
there is no "battery banks"
nor is there any battery technology that would allow you to build them
at night they fire up the coal and gas

>>518572873
You're saying the same thing than the person who replied.
And they said it succinctly.
You acknowledge that in overcast weather, it would be unreliable.

The feeble minds of these people and msm have reduced them to near idiocracy.

>>518565502
the batteries degrade so quickly that they never amortize

>>518568761
Why not run an extension cord to space and make a solar panel moon that always faces the sun

>>518564911 (OP)
Solar panels are diodes in reverse.
They can generate light.
Leds can do the same... Be reversed to take in energy instead of producing light

How do solar panels work in the dark, and how do windmills work without wind?

Energy coming from a battery is not a solar panel or a windmill working. It's a battery discharging.

>>518574599
they just do, chud

most of the people blathering about this don't even know
but some do
batteries aren't merely expensive or impractical
the technology for storage even at current capacity DOES NOT EXIST
>As of 2024, the global gap between renewable energy capacity and battery storage capacity is substantial:
>Solar capacity: Global installed solar capacity reached 452 gigawatts (GW) in 2024.
>Wind capacity: 117 GW of wind capacity was installed globally in 2024, for a cumulative capacity of 1,136 GW.
>Battery storage capacity: Globally, 175.4 gigawatt-hours (GWh) of installed capacity in 2024, reaching a total battery storage capacity of 55.7 GW as of 2023.
>This means the amount of total wind and solar capacity greatly outweighs the ability to store that energy for later use. This disparity highlights why renewable energy is considered an intermittent energy source, where the amount of power it can provide varies throughout the day.
>The difference between current storage capacity and the amount required to meet climate goals is dramatic.
>IEA scenario: The International Energy Agency's (IEA) Net Zero Emissions scenario projects a need for nearly 970 GW of battery storage capacity by 2030, a 35-fold increase from 2022 levels.
>COP29 pledge: In late 2024, the COP29 climate summit aimed to increase global storage capacity to 1,500 GW by 2030. This would be a six-fold increase from 2022 levels.
>Flexibility requirement: The International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) estimates that over 1.5 terawatts (TW) of energy storage is required by 2030 to provide 24/7 reliable, clean energy.
there are no batteries
at best they were hoping to develop something by now
at worst they knew the whole time and just wanted more construction contracts (not to mention disrupting land usage by farmers)

why won't they address this
why is it ok to FOOL millions of your twatter followers with this lie

>>518568073
or we could just build nuclear power plants and sell all the excess energy to mexico like we used to

oh wait, we're not allowed to talk about that.
gotta pretend like energy is some commodity in short supply

>>518565502
>hur battaries
That doesnt change that the fucking power generators arent generatoring energy you nigger the batteries arent magic they dont last forever.

>>518565461
>t. Solar cell researcher.
Why lie? https://www.dsneg.com/info/shading-effect-on-output-of-solar-pv-system-50631996.html

The effect of shading is well known. Also before you bring up different cell types amorphous thin-film panels are generally more tolerant of partial shading than crystalline silicon panels but they are less efficient overall.

>>518565568
there -was- one of the extremely few large battery facilities in the world near me
it started on fire
now the groundwater tests positive for hexavalent chromium (just to note, that is very bad) among other highly toxic substances
since they can't store the daytime power of all the solar arrays here, they have to dump it into other states, which sometimes don't even pay for it
then at night they import energy at 50x the average daily rate because there's nothing near the battery capacity to store the solar power from the daytime
the energy prices are higher here than any other state but one

>>518572843
>Developing countries have far fewer emissions than Europe and the US
as proven by the air quality in bangladesh and the purity of the river ganges. lol

>>518564911 (OP)
Democrats:
-Stay home to stop the spread
-Megavaxxed cancer means it works
-Follow the arrows at CVS
-Eating meat is causing global warming
-Heckin science and NASA
-Beep boop Orangemman bad, Elon is Nazi
-Arresting violent illegals is kidnapping
-Trust the gov (double retard points)

>whoa magic batteries!
After using them for a year they only hold 80% of their original capacity. :/

>>518564911 (OP)
Moon panels and no wind wind turbines are the next American't frontier.

>>518566527
You guys need to learn English.
That looks like retard speak.

>>518565568
Yeah, because everyone wants to pay 95 cents per kWh for battery sourced power. Dipshit.

>>518575847
I was joking. The colder a solar cell is, the more efficient.
IRL though, it all was serious research.

>>518564911 (OP)
You can still use the vibrator as a dildo.

>>518575831
they don't even exist
there's a 1.5 terrawatt shortage of energy storage, they have to use coal and natural gas at night

>>518565883
Solar is fine at the individual level. Rooftop solar is kind of a no-brainer for at least half the country. We are still at extremely low adoption rates because of bad PR from real estate agents (useless scammers) scaring people away with stories about how solar panels can decrease the resale value of a home.

>>518571296

/thread

Democrats love their obnoxious gotchas that always turn out to make them look like retards. Which they are anyway.

>>518566855
when the sun sets do you think the world is over?

>>518571296
its midwit thinking, no its actual dimwit thinking
its like saying a car is unreliable source of transportation because you have to stop for gas

>>518564911 (OP)
Disagreeing with Republicans = science

>>518565627
Most likely. It's just subtle enough

>>518577400
but gas stations exist
viable battery technology does not
I'm sorry, you've been lied to
there's a 1.5 TERRAWATT shortage and every place you see wind/solar is a place that turns on the coal and LNG at night

>>518573675
You need to stop getting your news from migger twitter, functioning storage banks fed by renewable sources do exist. They’re not enough to make an exclusively renewable energy source viable, but they’re not theoretical.

I repeat, read a book and get off migger twitter. Trump is lying to you and never reads books.
>inb4 all books are written by LE LIBS I will never read your woke tranny engineering research journals!!!
Fuck off

>>518578309
>kike babbling

You’ll never be a woman.

>>518578309
>functioning storage banks
>They’re not enough to make an exclusively renewable energy source viable, but they’re not theoretical.
are you autistic?
the TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THEM VIABLE does not exist
it's been decades, it failed to materialize, this is not a matter of building more because the technology to scale up a.k.a. make it viable does not exist, as you just conceded
>migger twitter read a book migger twitter Trump is lying reads books books LE LIBS never read woke tranny Fuck
take a midol, damn

>>518569023
Check this one out from 2009
Add petroleum + coal for the equivalent of your fossil fuel one

Chyna doing pretty good I think

>>518565568
>>518565502
oh look, a pair of retards who don't understand the basics of thermal dynamics.

it's pretty easy to get girls

>>518568073
If the wind is too strong, they shutdown the wind turbines or else the blades would break, So not only do you not understand thermodynamics, you also don't understand mechanics and strength of materials.

>>518564911 (OP)
All political discussions are composed of leftists pretending to not understand things.

>>518567837
I'm sure those huge blades will do wonders for the environment.

>>518564911 (OP)
They are freewmapsn maspnic and gay communsit suites inbred illiterate they hate chriaitnsify they are not anything. Ht blind nasa fags atomic enrgy hoax fags and urk hoax fags

>>518564911 (OP)
Bruh I think Chris Mowrey might actually be retarded.
Solar Panels require a minimum amount of sunlight and Windmills require a minimum amount of wind.

The republican was correct.

>>518572064
They figured that out in the 1950s friend it was called nuclear power but the boomers won't let us have it until every last one of them dies which is why I'm now pro MAID.

>>518568963
what a wonderful Idea, wonder why nobody has thought of doing it yet.

>>518565338
Wrong nigger birxj satanic anif criminal reatrded dumbass no such as mental illegal you hate christiantiy you wtabic oig its 3 state you sruoid bitxh its long shanks its phollip the fair quoting fremch royal action that allied eith hitler inbred hitlsr was a leftist centrism means no election of drump you racially coleectivize amd get worh real priesthood sspx and claim territory racially organiz and make state nobility aristocracy and 6 foot 5 militant monarchs

>>518564911 (OP)
This guy is obviously trolling.
It's sad what professional retards stoop down to in order to make money off engagement.

>>518565568
If he was talking about batteries he would have mentioned them.

>>518565502
No we maintenance them we made them created them with yoir sruoid shit you are a dulbas nigger same impotent nigger headed labotomite dumbass goyim ernstmch teala marconi hertz volta the first batteries are roman catholic crenxh flat earthers niggers Mexican Slavic retsrd goyim and judem baby fucking shit had nothing to with batteries goldman sach does not innovate stealing is not innovation lithium batteries and first batteries are roman catholic white european innovation unapproriate no right to elxtricty radio nat socs tvs and flight of dumont in France and chemistry of chemistry and batteries volta Heinrich all science all engineering is flat earth european roman cathlkic not racial subhuman ma it's flurries out of thw ayngogue asswipe phony ass larping cosmonauts and astronaut micrometeorite hoax meteorite hoax doing fake moon rocks iis is impossible meteorites going 250k all 1 million per Swiss cheesing you delicate hoses amd fkae vessel to nowhere snd lies about chridt to smear trh holy hotlers and hapsburh and Phillips and Otto and longshanks

>>518565502
>>518565568
You do not need solar panels to have batteries.

>>518565578
Wrong its the case

lol these republicans never heard of moon light lmao even

>>518578309
even if they did exist, Its retarded on its face, Lithium is an extremely volatile substance. And the batteries when completely dead are horrible for the environment. They're harder to recycle than lead acid batteries.

Besides there are better ways to store energy at scale, you could create a reservoir at a higher elevation, pump water to that elevation and have a hydro electric plant to extract the energy.
You're too retarded to even understand how that would work. Besides, if they were serious about clean energy they would be drilling into Yellowstone and using that fucker as a big fuckoff geothermal plant. Turning a super volcano into a national park has got to be the dumbest shit idea the US government has ever had, the other wasted land mark, Niagara Falls could produce a shit tone of energy, but nobody wants to build a hydro electric plant there.
Outside of that, Nuclear could fill in the gaps. then you would remove the need for fossil fuels entirely.
But your goal isn't to actually get away from fossil fuels, your goal is to virtue signal and siphon money off to give to China to build these solar panels and wind turbines that are actually far worse for the environment than a natural gas plant.

>>518564911 (OP)
jews

>>518572173
its not even a troll

>>518564911 (OP)
no u

>>518565568
We're not talking about the ability to store energy, were talking about the ability to produce energy you fucking retard.

>>518565502
>>518565568
finally I get an opportunity to post this

>>518570134
Don't forget windmills are completely unrecyclable, and the only way we have to dispose of them currently is digging a giant hole and burying the pieces. Which also don't biodegrade so they'll just sit there basically forever.

>>518565502
Flyover states know how to use power tools… powered with batteries. They can nigger rig anything, fix everything, set up and maintain the power grid, etc. Fucking city faggots can’t even use a power drill and don’t know where food comes from. They believe groceries come from the grocery store. He can insult the working population all he wants, but it’s the fucking hicks that are fixing his car, stocking his grocery store, and keeping his lights on.

>>518564911 (OP)
uh yeah? """green""" energy is retarded just use nuclear

>>518564911 (OP)
Haha what an idiot
Republicans are so stupid and never heard of batteries
You morans! LOL

>>518564911 (OP)
He's right, they aren't working, the battery is, fucking retarded clown world. Uh, just cause my car doesn't start, doesn't mean it's not working. Same retarded logic.

>Why are Republicans so fucking stupid?
Well someone had to get funding from Israel and Republicans is just an extension of Israel so that's why

>>518569466
You’re extremely dumb if you deny thag

>solar panels work when there is no sun to warm the oil inside the panel
>windmills generate electricity without wind
>you are a retard if you believe these things tk be true
wew lad

>>518565502
the funny thing about batteries is that you have to charge them up
so if your solar and wind banks don't also have a tremendous battery capacity attached, they're less than useless

go look up the carbon footprint of such a battery bank, retard

>>518572064
Japan and China have solar lights/lamps that store energy during the day and then turn on at night.

>>518586259
Lol nope

Covid flooded these areas with MIGGERS, KIKES, AND NIGGERS, so now they resemble a kind of third world african country that still has white people but they are constantly being murdered by the aforementioned MIGGERS, KIKES, AND NIGGERS.

So like modern day South Afrika.

>>518565568
>They're called batteries. Dumbass

That's called battery power, dumbass

>>518564911 (OP)
Depends on what you're using them for.
They are a great source of copper wires usually

>>518572873
Imagine being this low IQ kek what a maroon

>>518572064
Batteries fucking suck. Our battery technology is trash and is holding up everything else. Batteries are inefficient, low capacity, and need replacing often.
Intermittent sources of power such as wind and solar are indeed a major issue.

Also why did that retard put scarequotes around "there's no wind"? What is he implying? That wind is eternal and you're stupid to believe otherwise? I don't even know what he's trying to imply there

>>518587415
>the jews WANTED americas borders closed, thats why we call em miggers!
lel

>>518564911 (OP)
>Why are Republicans so fucking stupid?
its red state christian education for you. Yes every single one of them is retarded.

>>518587750
Did reality hit you when you read his post? That sucks for you faggot lmao.

>>518587855
This is like the 5th post I've seen bashing batteries without anyone explaining which specific chemistries or anything just generic hatred of random battery lol

What can we do to destroy the world's food supply to levels that cause mass starvation and billions of death? How vulnerable is the food supply and how can we target it? The only way I can see this world getting better and preventing the total jeetification of everything is we somehow destroy so much surplus food that all the weak, the old, the dysgenic, the retarded, the violent, etc. end up killing each other due to mass starvation. All the people that need to take medications to live, that need infrastructure and services running to stay alive, that are already on the edge of violence and too stupid to work something out, etc. we just need world wide starvation. It's the simplest way to reset everything and end the scamming, the criminals, the degenerates, all of it. Imagine if every country had swathes of people who are starving to death in it what could snowball from that. All the damage to infrastructure, looting, etc. could compound the issue. After a year the survivors can rebuild in a world now free of billions of burdensome degenerates like pajeets. Is there any way we can target in particular the food supply of India? or do they already all just survive off of eating cow shit from cows that eat grass and we'd have to literally destroy all the grass and cows to end the jeet infestation? Do they have silos that store huge amounts of food? Maybe a small team of very dedicated people could make a few industrial accidents happen and cause the food supply of India to be deleted.

>>518588342
Yeah I realized that people like him are incredibly retarded and don't socialize with people. It's all good

crazy. I had no idea. guess I'm becoming a democrat now.

say, how much power does a solar panel generate at night anyways? same question for wind turbines on windless days. crazy physics I can't believe that we can still recharge batteries in the dark like that.

>>518565502
Nobody is using batteries here at the grid level lol

let's throw this cunt in the ocean like a car battery

>>518588452
you still need base load power plants if you want to use renewable energy. the battery technology isn't there yet. go look up cobalt mines. people are getting sick of environmentalists saying all this shit when it's still a pipe dream at the moment

>>518565568
And a power plant that runs on solar panels needs batteries why exactly?

>>518577400
holy shit what a gigantic retard.
>its like saying a car is unreliable source of transportation because you have to stop for gas
no, it's nothing like that at all. retarded analogy. only a retard would use this poor of a strawman.

>>518591138
>And a power plant that runs on solar panels needs batteries why exactly?
blocks your path
and sun

>>518565502
>>518565568
Batteries generate power?

>>518564911 (OP)
The people like OP's print is the same kind of people that say nuclear energy is not acceptable but will push for solar in England

pol btfo once again

>>518592610
insider here. the reason jeets are being shipped all over the world is to save getting egg on the face of the west regarding green energy. in a similar way jeets were being used as ai, they'll be put in underground hamster wheels to generate renewable energy, something akin to picture related. renewable in the sense that there's an endless amount of them. with a diet of bovine feces and urine scientists found two discoveries- their population was pacified and their corpses decomposed 4x faster and returned to elemental earth. by 2030 the west should be meeting it's emissions goals and be ahead of china.
why are their windmills in massive crop fields? how do they fertilize the field without chinese fertilizer? would the masses miss them if indians started to disappear? all machinations will be in place by 2028.

>>518565568
>They're called batteries
Solar panels and windmills are not the ones holding the charge. They pass that shit off to the batteries that are located literally anywhere else in the world.
At night/without wind, they are exceptionally useless.

>>518590532
Read the news dummy. They are building industrial battery plants everywhere. When the catch fire (which everyone eventually will) they have no way of putting it out. They burn for days will smoke that will kill you.
Big fights in NYC right now to stop them.

>>518582267
You know stuff.
My idea is building water towers so the energy pumps water up in the day then the turbines in the pipes produce energy at night when it drains.

>>518565502
>>518565568
What is Watt's law?

>>518564911 (OP)
This is a good troll post, although it’s kind of annoying because leftists are genuinely trying to gaslight Virginia voters on this and it’s pissing me off

You fucks saying batteries hurr, there arent batteries big enough to hold even half a days energy in a bigger scale

>>518564911 (OP)
Is this a joke?

>>518567692
Wood and fossil fuels and wind are all forms of solar power.

>>518565502
Then the solar panels aren't working, the *batteries* are.

>>518595137
Irrelevant, there's no proposal to use 100% wind and solar.

Also, it's always sunny and windy somewhere. The sun sets and the wind stops at predictable times, allowing older energy sources to be spun up as backup

>>518565882
This can't be real is it real?

Nuclear, geothermal, hydro
the only viable large scale "green" energy. If anyone says otherwise they need to have their teeth knocked out
Solar and wind? useful on small scales I guess. On an individual scale solar is great. Those shitty giant solar farms? produce fuck all energy and cost more energy to maintain than they generate in energy. They literally have diesel generators at these "solar farms" in cali to keep the power going when the panels fuck up or the weather is bad. Fucking scam shit for retards.

>>518564911 (OP)
They won't gain power. Anyway Green Energy is not viable on a mass consumption scale, unless you own your own Solar Panels/Wind Turbines, you will never see GE be viable due to the insane demand people have for power.

Solar panels do nothing unless it's 72-75 degrees farehneit outside on a cloudless day

>>518564911 (OP)
He's right and also they don't work when there is, either.

>>518565502
Blue state idiots don't understand the concept of longevity, maintenance, or waste disposal.

>>518565882
>>518566321
>>518595589
Wait until you find out they break down every five years and have to be completely replaced from scratch and they don't have a way to dispose of the blades so they just bury them in the fields and let them seep toxic waste into the soil for the next 10,000 years since metal isn't biodegradable.

>>518565883
Hydroelectric is shit.
Kills the salmon, eels and anything else which needs to swim upstream.

Nuclear is the cleanest and safest way of producing significant amounts of power.

>>518565502
Go charge a battery with a solar panel in perpetual darkness... it meeds sun to "work" retard

>>518581579
The fuck did I just read

>>518564911 (OP)
is this for real??? wtf? yeah of course they dotn work when its dark and there is no wind...
do they believe batteries are generators?

>>518597479
>metal isn't biodegradable
i'd like to introduce you to iron oxide.

>>518582267
>>518594883
BULLSHIT
explain why this doesn't exist in places with MASSIVE renewable usage like germany and california
SO MUCH money thrown at this and there's a 1.5 TW shortfall anyway
I don't need the details to know that this technology is unviable
otherwise the germans would have it
california would have it
when are people going to stop pretending

>>518600682
creating the next crisis btw. battery disposal will be a nightmare.

>>518594883
They already do this in a few places. The problem is you are spending as much energy as you are gaining. So it works best as a massive hydro battery, but it doesnt actually generate energy.

>>518601330
Power plants always overproduce (unless in certain places in california et al at times). The idea is to use the excess for things like reverse pumping, or trains up a mountain, etc.

>>518594883
That already exists and is how some hydro electric power plans work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses_Niagara_Power_Plant
At night the Falls are turned off and used for bot power generation and filling a reservoir (tourism doesn't matter at night). During the day the Falls are turned on for tourists and the reservoir is used for power generation.

>>518601330
It's only energy neutral or negative if you need to pump the water against gravity. If you're just redirecting a river that already wants to flow it's energy positive.

>>518581402
wait, you have to plant the blades to make wind turbines grow?

>>518601482
>Power plants always overproduce
That's expensive. It's not economical except in a few cases.

>>518601146
yeah probably
I've seen how they clean superfund sites
there's no such thing "beyond recovery" to them, they'll take every cubic foot of dirt out on dumptrucks and process it or leave it in a land-landfill
realistically, we're going to spend centuries cleaning up after these nutjobs

>>518602230
Why do you think they're called power "plants"?

are liberals retarded? obviously they meant they collect no energy when there's no sun or wind
holy shit libcucks are negative IQ lmao

>>518565502
that's literally not the point you fucking retard lmao
when comparing energy sources you're comparing their ability to GENERATE energy, not store it
christ slavs are dumbass niggers

>>518601330
all storage is lossy
my heuristic is if it was talked about in popular mechanics 20 years ago (or IFLS for you kids) and still isn't implemented in the places that need it, it's vaporware
people need to stop making important infrastructure policy decisions based on hope

>>518569727
I'm proud of you Son

>>518577051
The problem is, if mass adoption does happen in your area, you're left holding the bag.

>>518565502
>>518565568
>>518582681
kek
black ass gorilla niggers

>>518564911 (OP)
98 per cent of whole world population is stupid
off topic Republicans are controled oposition btw, if you dont know it yet

>>518565568
>>518565502
It's called burning coal whenever it's convenient

>>518565239
Your brown stupid IDIOT

>>518566855
You stupid fuck

Migatards are the stupidest creatures on earth even dumber then rocks