Thread 518607117

>>518607117 (OP)
It crashed today retard. Internet funny money is not worth six figures.

i mean, the president of america just used it to steal 88 million dollars from dumb goyim who were putting in long calls so yeah, its pretty based.

>>518607148
it crashed down to $112k from 115k.

>>518607117 (OP)
limited capped thing is a bad kind of currency.

>>518607117 (OP)
It’s a commodity not money

>>518607148
Zoom out. It's back to where it was 3 months ago. Still 2x the price 3 years ago. Although I regard anything above 10k as ridiculously over valued as what was l when I bought mine.

>>518607117 (OP)
Yeah, except transactions aren’t obfuscated and the feds can make you pay taxes on it. There also needs to be a money-by-mail service in place instead of KYC exchanges.

>>518607448
>commodity
sure bro, commodities exist in real life though

The problem is nobody wants to trade it.

I run an online business and I TRY my best to get people to pay in Bitcoin, but NOBODY will do it.

People will only ever pay in USDC/USDT

I want to earn BTC but its impossible, people who buy it only hold it and never use it for anything, kind of defeats the purpose.

>>518607117 (OP)
Crypto in general yes. BTC is not really good for paying for stuff. Transaction fees are way to high.

>>518607989
give them 10% off if they pay in bitcoin... are you even jewish?

>>518607117 (OP)
>power goes out

One cheeseburger and a large soda?

That will be 6 dollar plus a 62 dollar transaction fee.

>>518607117 (OP)
>ALiens invade
>shut down entire globe's power grid
>money = null

Shitcoin was created so pedophiles can secretly sell their CP online and their home made drugs.

Just release the Epstein files already....

>>518608075
Lightening network solves this

>>518607117 (OP)
why do you retards pretend you use it as money? Whats the point of pushing this lie?

>>518607117 (OP)
where we’re going you’ll forget you ever owned this

>inb4 2 more weeks

this but unironically

>>518609247
i use it as a bank.
it replaces jew banks.
i no longer need to give my money to a jew.

>>518607989
because its the world's savings account
people don't pay out of their savings account, they pay out of their checking account

>>518609299
Your ultimate goal with it though is to convert it to fiat one day

>>518609299
It's all ran by jews. The only safe place is in your possession

>>518607117 (OP)
>money
It's an asset. Like a stock, but even worse because nothing backs it.

>>518609717
Sometimes when they say this stuff I wonder if they are just delusional or they have no idea what they are investing in actually is

>>518607148
Oh no! It crash to only 20% gains!

>>518607419
Why?

I wonder, how many people are holding it because they truly want a "decentralized" bank system and how many hold it to cash out into american dollarinos

When shit hits the fan for real we'll see how stable it is and how many people will take 50% loss and panic cashout. A lot of people are talking about it like it's some insanely intricate system that can't be brought down ever and will destroy conventional banking system but is it really the case?

Whoever bought and rode the x100 x500 x1000 train and became a millionaire is based. But now you can't even expect a x2 profit, I know that the profits are still decent but not x100 level. So is it such a great system that you would trust your money for the next 30-40 years for example?

>>518610050
It crashed 80%+ like 5 times and keeps growing stronger

>>518607117 (OP)
How and why
It’s absolute bullshit, just like the rest of this godforsaken world
Fake and fucking gay

>>518610162
Study economics

>>518610205
Explain in simple terms what makes this worth for humanity to invest energy into.
What is the benefit except massive cope and more fake shit. Also I invested into it when it was below 40k but still think it’s absolute dog shit trash and cannot get the cringe people worshipping crypto

>>518610260
Austrian economics

Bitcoin mining is the solution to the cantillon effect and triffin dillema.

>>518607117 (OP)
it is a currency but yes it is much better than any of the government owned currency, which is currently being printed at record levels and being handed to migrants & illegals to replace us all.
crypto-currency is also not CBDC which government will attempt to use to rugpull cash holders, physical gold/silver holders might once more be asked to hand in their stockpile to the banks so the government can control the money supply, they did it before and will do it again but with cash this time.

>>518610329
In what way does bitcoin and bitcoin mining help humanity in any way to live better

>>518607117 (OP)
>Grid goes down
...
>Da-where id'z muh mooonies?
...
>Uses a single point of failure.
>That not so smort phone.
>Gets simjacked.
>Loses everything, uninsured.
...
>Hello SAAR, you have virus on you composter, I canz fix for one time offer of $199.99 in Google play cards
>Openly gives remote access to Indian scammers (because they can't hack for shit)
>Loses everything, uninsured
...
>Flood happens
>Phone and computer get soaked and destroyed
>"All muh Moonies is gone"

What you're watching...is 'The Tulip Reveloution' 2.0. If you don't know what that is, go look it up before speaking to me about it. 'Value', is placed upon objects by the holder. Even if the object is utterly worthless. People were spending EXORBITANT amounts of money on flowers...that fucking died. Or, could just be grown. When people realized that...the value dried up.

>>518610363
This >>518610329

>>518610409
Alright I understand, it has no use in the long term. Great

>>518610446
If you don't understand economics what's the point in replying?

>>518610389
kek. and what happens when CBDC is introduced and you need digital ID at all times to prove your identity so the government can track how many steaks or beers you bought and police you for 'destroying the environment' or freeze your account for too many shitposts. power cut will affect it just as badly too, really don't understand the issue with crypto, at least the government doesn't control it and you can decide how to use it instead of government deciding randomly to fund £100bn for eternity to Jewkraine or whatever conflict or shit you don't want.

>>518610510
You never even tried to explain the use in simple terms. I can ask AI without having to study nowadays, I want to hear it from the human who proposes and defends the great idea and value behind bitcoin or crypto currencies that see so much widespread use in the world lol

>>518610577
Ask a.i. what the cantillon effect and triffin dillema is, and ask for information again without being a shithead.

>>518610571
imagine this; you get a government elected that has barely any support and for them to get funding, instead of them going to the central bank like they do currently, they have a worthless government currency that nobody uses because everyone uses crypto-currency that is stable, the government now has to beg people to support them on whatever insane plan they want to fund. you could just close the wallet on them. they can't even print a billion £££ to buy whatever insane shit they want because their currency is worthless. it doesn't work this way currently but it would be great if it did work this way.

is it time to collectively sudoku

I should have bought Bitcoin during covid when it was 18,000. I bought it at 30K when it was going up again.

>>518610660
I asked and it isn’t a miracle solution to them. Also crypto currencies have drawbacks as well and aren’t used in the world. So there goes that grand use. What a bummer. Well at least I hope pseudo intellectual faggots like you keep pumping it so I can sell it and buy something real

>>518610571
Lulz. Why the fuck are you speaking to me? You're a TINY LITTLE insignificant Island nation which once held power kicking, screaming & grasping at relevancy. Still acting like you run shit. You run...nothing.

The slaves in your country may accept that. But here, we'll just fucking shoot you. The same way we did before in 1776. And sent you little cockroaches scurrying back across the Atlantic. Where you belong.

We own...YOU. Noth the other way around. You bullshit fake nation, is smaller than numerous of our states. And even that, smaller than our 5 largest counties.

>>518610760
Have I struck a nerve? easy to tell who runs your life...

>>518610571
And to be clear, I'm not completely against crypto. I'm against single points of failure. I try to get rid of all single points of failure. It makes like easier and safer. HOWEVER...(((they))) want a 1 world currency. One in which they control for total market manipulation. You can't do that with numerous forms of currency. I mean, you can. But it's way harder and requires entire nation control. Which they can't succeed in gaining.

2. Everyone keeps looking at block chain as if it's infallible. Every single transaction is both logged and traced. You can't do that with cash. Which is why they want to get rid of it. Wallets can EASILY be hacked. Ask North Korea. They stole billions in BTC. If you want to hack my real wallet, it's going to require a gun. Which, you ladies, aren't allowed to own to defend yourselves.

Crypto in itself, is total control. The idea of decentralization is a good idea. However, if you know anything about computers or networking...can NEVER be accomplished digitally. Ever.

It's best to go with PHYSICAL currency. Be it in gold, silver or other precious metals. In order to rob someone of that, you're going to need more than a laptop. And I have a chance to stop you.

I'm against central banking for the reasons that we see now. Accts frozen due to 'wrong think'. FEDs swooping in if they don't get their cut. Etc;

But crypto, is central banking...now centralized. There has to be another way. And I think that physical currency that actually has more value than 1's & 0's or the paper that I wipe my ass with...is the best option.

>>518611197
Well, the thing is...we don't give 2 squirts of piss of 1 single fuck what you do over there. We know that you're a slave nation. Now, the occupants are realizing that you're a slave nation. And you're trying to push your slave shit...elsewhere. But, we don't give a fuck about you guys or what you want. And unlike other countries...we can smoke you clowns, in less than 15 minutes. Your entire .mil, would go *POOF* in 15 minutes. So, I mean...you can try to push your shit all you want. But, it's just...not happening over here.

>>518611555
Okay boomer

>>518611555
Shit a quality post in my incel neet board? It’s over

>>518610014
because everyone saves it expecting it to appreciate so nobody spends it stagnating the flow of goods. Can lead to deflationary spiral. Also no new issuance of money means the supply distribution is mostly fixed which leads to a sort of techno feudalism only its jew nerds at the top instead of a chad land owning elite

>>518607458
zoom in
we are back a prices never seen since... 10 days ago

>>518612076
What people saving money!?! OY VEY!

WHAT ABOUT MY LOANS AND INTEREST!?! OY VEY

You want to know how to get Bitcoin?
You work for it.

>>518612395
>You want to know how to get Bitcoin?
>You work for it.
https://www.securityweek.com/florida-teen-charged-massive-twitter-hack-bitcoin-theft/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2kgndwwd7lo

>>518612569
https://www.kitco.com/charts/gold

>>518612395
why should you be able to save anything ? what have you contributed to earn that which you call money? only thing you did is buy some bags and hold them, and we should be raised to elite status for that according to you. Just for existing and holding some bags. Great society you got there

>>518612822
and you should be raised*
typo

>>518612569
https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart

What was "The Tulip Revolution", tell me about it.

>>518607117 (OP)
>that'll be 0.000015 BTC for the soda, sir
>no wait 0.000016
>no wait 0.000017
>no wait 0.000014

>>518612895
the thing is, without a stablecoin to trade against (like fiat) it becomes an impossibility to price goods accordingly in bitcoin.

>>518607117 (OP)
1

>>518607117 (OP)
Far from perfect, but it's honest money and that's what counts.

>>518612822
>why should you be able to save anything
Because I can and will, I value my time, who the fuck are you?

>>518607117 (OP)
>be jewish money printer owner
>go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>buy coins
>price you out

I skipped the buying bitcoin out of desperation step and just bought property.

>>518613373
Bitcoin value increase has slowed dramatically. The lucky people who bought early might get rich. No one will get rich from buying bitcoin now.

I beat bitcoin with property over the last 5 years and without the insanely high risk associated with bitcoin.

>>518613373
I would go as far as saying that people who buy bitcoin now are stupid. You can do just as well with other investments but at a fraction of the risk.

Bitcoin is for young men that can afford a home.

>>518607117 (OP)
Yes.

>>518607117 (OP)
>can't pay taxes or buy groceries with this
Cool virtual Monopoly money.

>>518613373
Hard to argue with that. But you still need to pay taxes and all that jazz when you cash out. I know that's a good problem to have and all, but it still puts you right on the ZOG radar too. I feel like gold and cash is still way more anonymous.

>>518607117 (OP)
>7 transaction a second
>having utility in a population larger than 1000 people

lol

>>518613197
you can only "save" in your precious bitcoin as long as you are able to sell for dollars later on, so you depend on the bank and its debt notes for your savings. You also depend on power and internet companies to keep your infrastructure running.
I dont expect you to understand but i will try. If you can put your wealth into an object or thing it can be stolen . Such happend with gold, many times. Your bitcoin cant be stolen , ok good but they're not material they depend on civilization running. Like fiat money.
You want to "store" value into objects or digits, ok. So do jews, and have done so for millenia so they got quite the run ahead on you. Bitcoin? they own upwards 70% of supply already. Its their game, you're just another pawn

>>518612790
If gold was first discovered in 2009, it would be worth just as much if not more that bitcoin today due to crazy speculation on it's potential new use cases of this fantastic new elemental scientific discovery. The world would be in a buzz trying to find applications for this new substance with amazing unique properties, such as a type of money, jewelry, in electronics etc that people would be figuring out year by year. There would be massive hype and massive demand but very little supply in the first decade of its discovery due to taking time to build mining and refining infrastructure, so the price will overshoot due to everyone on earth wanting this amazing new pretty gold element.

Bitcoin started trading at an artificially and arbitrarily low value of 1 cent or whatever. That's a ridiculous reference point to start measuring and comparing the two different asset classes and their gains over time. You should use some kind of proportionality.

For example, an extreme opposite reference point would be that in the period 2015 thru 2025 represents the last 0.419% of gold historical use as a monetary asset as it was first used as money in 600BC, and its use case and mining development was stretched over a really long period of time to allow supply and demand shocks to be absorbed slowly over centuries, instead of being concentrated in a decade or two with a crazy flurry of speculative fury in the market drive prices through the roof very quickly had gold been first discovered in the modern technological era in 2009.
This is equivalent to the last 26 days of bitcoins history proportionately. So we can compare the last 26 days of bitcoins performance vs the last 10 years of gold.

>>518607148
completely normal and to be expected

>>518609437
my ultimate goal is to spend it. that's the point of money, and savings.
if i can't buy what i want via bitcoin, i will have to exchange it to another form before making the purchase.
>>518609512
learn what decentralised means

>>518613507
>I would go as far as saying that people who buy bitcoin now are stupid
People who 'sit on it' are stupid. People who daytrade it, smort. Volatility is what you want for profit. Especially if the market is predictable.
>You can do just as well with other investments but at a fraction of the risk.
$BTC fluctuates in the 1,000's/day
$ETH fluctuates in the range of 25-200/day average. If you're in in the right time and out in the right time...it's much more profitable.

It's just, not a good idea for a long term currency. It IS the tulip revolution 2.0. It IS a pyramid scheme. Just like the regular stock market is also a pyramid scheme.

You gotta 'learn to thin like them'. If you play it right, you can make really good money. BUT, if you're one of those "I'ma buyz da Bitcoin fo' life and sitz on it liek a 401k" people...you WILL be the one left holding the bag. This shit crashes, every 4 years. The general stock market crashes, ever 10 years. Just gotta pick your poison well...then...go buy gold/silver/platinum with the profit ;)

>>518607117 (OP)
>>518607148
Its not money its a decentralized bank ledger. The blockchain is just a bullet proof record of what is happening with all the money. Your holdings are on the blockchain via this ledger.
>Whats wrong with bitcoin
Well. For one it is only capable of doing 7 transactions per second. The entire network can only do 7 transactions per second. Let that sink in. Its one of the reasons ethereum was created. You might not notice it now because the transactions are so expensive nobody wants to do them anyway. So they just basically made it worth so much that its other features like poor performance could be tolerated. But if bitcoin were ever to become a type of "currency" or "money" it would fall apart. You would be waiting 30 days to order a big mac.
>Whats good about bitcoin
The technology is simple and more or less bug free. Thats probably the reason so many people like it. So now the current cope is that its a "store of value". So its basically a really slow place where you can store lots of money. And potentially earn a lot while doing so. However these people are in bigger danger than they realize. Because more than likely its not worth what its going for right now.

>>518613507
>Bitcoin is for young men that can afford a home.
That's a lot of people.

>>518613800
>>518613852

>>518614058
Foolish young men. Holding it long term is high risk. They might find all their effort is for nothing.

You dont save into something that is very high risk. Its become a stereotype now. The underachieving young man putting all his savings into crypto in the hopes of buying a home one day. Thinking he is smart and evangelising to others (buy my bag) when he is actually making huge mistakes on the most simple of things.

>>518613959
yeah decentralized
> here's your decentralized currency goy
> oh wait you gotta register for KYC if you want to get it
> oh we control all the off and on ramps
> oh did we mention that anonymous wallets are illegal now?
> enjoy your decentralized currency, we totally don't control it goy
still better than fiat but please, don't believe for a second btc or any other (((crypto))) is the way out of this mess

>>518607419
Bitcoin has an unlimited cap as it can be subdivided infinitely. This orientation reflects the fact that goods and services become more abundant as the world grows more efficient. Bitcoin is the perfect money because it represents this reality.

>>518614246
>its rare
>we can divide it infinitely

Then it ain't rare.

>>518614178
>Foolish young men. Holding it long term is high risk. They might find all their effort is for nothing.
This

>>518614230
it is the most decentralised form of money created. im not so concerned by its lack of privacy features as im not a pedophile.
try monero if you like kids.

btc is the way out of the mess since jewish power stems from their banks, and btc offers a bankless form of finance.

>>518610571
>really don't understand the issue with crypto, at least the government doesn't control it
most prolific way for alCIAda to make payments for their one pice army that are dping revolutions atm in Asia.
>goverment not controling it

>>518614281
Look at a long term Bitcoin chart bud

>>518607989
Because at some point it will run out and instead of thinking of whole BTC’s we’ll be talking about satoshis instead
Spending it now to buy frivolous shit will some day be the same as spending 10000 btc to buy a pizza
The smart people (those who hold at least SOME btc already) have figured that out already and are not wasting theirs, and once midwits finally find out, a couple halvings from now, it will all get bought up until we reach the final price for btc
I’m not going to pretend to know what 1 btc or 1 satoshi will be worth at that point, but it should be abundantly clear that it’s much, much more than what we’re currently at and now is the time to accumulate (or be a seething noicoiner who will an hero later), not to spend it

>>518614451
Some day its value will be zero.
Well actually I dont know that for sure. Id say its 50/50.

>>518613959
you cant "save" in the form of money, money is intended to be a means of exchange only between goods, not hold inherent value in itself. As economies grows money has to be printed if you want people to keep using it, if you dont expand the supply then you run into deflationary spiral. Thats why the only real way to save in fiat is to generate interest in the bank, you're not earning money you're preserving your purchasing value. But bitcoin doesnt generate interest you can only hope it appreciates, and that its tradeable for fiat in the future only way to spend it. Trusting in bitcoin to last decades is the same as betting on the USD, cause they both go hand in hand. If usd collapses its game over for crypto. So you're just hoping you're savings appreciate more in the scheme than in the bank generating interest through the years

>>518614451
Nah we will switch to dog coins instead of being priced out.

>>518614528
You're a retard.

>You can't save money
>Let Jews print money for free
>Give it to a bank
What?

>>518614344
btc as it is right now depend 100% on the bank. Try getting anyone to sell you anything for bitcoin, if they cant trade for dollars, and the dollars are born in the bank. Bankless my ass lmao. Also most people cash out through the system these days

I have a house that I bought for 900k and renovated. So let's say its a million euro house.
It goes up in value AND I get to live in it. Since its my primary residence I pay no tax on capital gains if I sell it. It will always have value. Its value falling to zero is a very slim chance. Massive war in europe and Ireland?

Bitcoin just cannot compete.

>>518614246
Do you know "How a computer works"? "How a cellphone works"? "How a LAN works"? "How a cellphone network works"? "How an ISP works"?

If any piece of that...goes down. So does your moooonies.

That's NOT incorporating hacking into the variables either. If Bitcoin represents your reality...than you are a low IQ nigger faggot. However, that 100 oz of gold 500 oz of silver and 100oz of platinum that you could have instead...ta-da...it's still there and still hold the same value.

BTC is good to 'make money off of'. Just not as a mainline currency. Or a saving acct.

>>518614419
I have, since 2011 8^)

Like I said, every 4-5 years...it crashes. Go look at your charts yourself. I mean, if you get in after a crash...and sit for 3 years 11 months and 29 days then sell and make a profit as a long term investor, good. You did well. But, if you bought in 1/2 way through the gain process over those 4 years expecting it to infinitely go up forever...you're fucked.

I will say this. You only lose $, if you sell. And the crypto market ALWAYS rights itself. It just, takes years to do so. I just think that it's 'wiser' to day trade it, then take the profit and buy things with actual tangible value that DON'T depreciate. Like land or prescious metals.

>>518614693
you're the retard, crypto is a jew game from day 1. Its finance its their world. It trades like a stock, has exchanges, pumps and dumps. Its their fucking game you're just a player. A lowly fish in a sea of whales. They can crash it to 0 or pump it to trillions, they end up on top. They already own most supply anyway

>>518607117 (OP)
every btc/eth holder is planning to exit to fiat. let's be honest. it's not a currency and it has been like 20 years. i cant buy gas or groceries with crypto. it's not backed by an underlying asset like a stock. it's all air. i sold all mine recently.

>>518614158
>lets compare, using graphs, the gains of a brand new asset called bitcoin that was invented in 2009, started trading at $0.0000001 cent (because, uh, reasons nobody knows, but it makes really big, and impressive to midwits, percentage gain numbers when you start with really tiny numbers like that) on an obscure rigged internet nerd scam markets 15 years ago that hardly anyone knew about. Lets compare the gains of that thing to a very mature and established asset class called gold that has been around for thousands of years, has a very high supply already, all its use cases have been figured out over centuries, and it was already trading at $1000 in 2009
Thats a totally not disingenuous and jewish-like thing to do. Only midwits fall for that propaganda, unfortunately there's a lot of midwits.

>>518614344
Privacy is not the issue here, but you either don't understand that or pretend not to
Kikes control it 100%, precisely like they do with our fake and gay fiat currency today. BTC paves the way to CBDC, which is absolute and complete tecnocentralized slavery
BTC basically already is like that in a way, as the only way you can spend it is by converting it to fiat, and whenever you do that you need to pass by the kike gate
In the future, if they decide to piggyback their CBDC on BTC, they can easily do so. Every BTC in existence can and will be tracked back to a digital ID. If that's not possible, those coins that belong to anonymous wallets will just be blacklisted everywhere. So it's either you start using those BTCs to actually exchange goods directly (under the ever seeing eye of the technokike, which can and will fuck with you for that) or you use it as fiat with extra steps.

monero fixes that problem, and is de facto banned everywhere, and that tells you something

> btc is the way out of the mess since jewish power stems from their banks, and btc offers a bankless form of finance.

The one and only way out of this mess is extreme and widespread violence, and if you haven't gotten it already there's really no hope for you. It's not a technical problem we have, it's a political one

>>518614528
>you cant "save" in the form of money
jew/monkey detected. ofc you can save money. if you want to make a large purchase you need to save.
bitcoin allows you to save without keeping your money in a jewish bank. jews can no longer lend my money and earn interest off of it. that's huge. the ability to send bitcoin around the world in mere minutes makes it an excellent choice for purchases.
>Trusting in bitcoin to last decades is the same as betting on the USD, cause they both go hand in hand. If usd collapses its game over for crypto
no. bitcoin doesnt need any particular currency. if usd dies then well talk in terms of BTC/RMB or BTC/Yen or BTC/gbp when discussing price to normies.
>So you're just hoping you're savings appreciate more in the scheme than in the bank generating interest through the years
yes it is pretty much guaranteed to overperform jew banks. i also dont need to worry about jewish nigger bankers with sloped foreheads going bust and losing my deposit.

>>518614701
>btc as it is right now depend 100% on the bank. Try getting anyone to sell you anything for bitcoin
plenty of purchases are made through btc. some people live 100% off btc.
>btc as it is right now
they said the same about the internet, carriages, electricity etc.
you can wait until its completely matured if you want.

>>518614923
the only reason anyone takes your btc is they can cash out for jew money aka fiat, which is what you pay taxes with. Its also the only reason its holding any value at all. How can you not see this?

>>518612822
We live in a society where teenage whores make millions of dollars for spreading their legs on the internet
Where the children of billionaires get rich scamming plebs out of all their money without any repercussions
Where insider trading is so blatant that even mainstream news has no other option but to talk about it

And yet somehow this fucking disgusting kike is absolutely foaming at the mouth over the fact that lowly frogposters are making money that they
>did not earn
Very curious indeed
You disgusting subhumans deserve nothing less than public mob justice, may the tire around your neck burn you slowly and painfully
YOUR KIND created this society and now you’re going go cry foul play and try to flip the table? Fuck you

that would be the Reichsmark, based on material value and labour. worked great and makes the economy incorruptible by jewish gold
Bitcoin is based on nothing real at all

>>518614903
>Privacy is not the issue here
>lists a bunch of privacy related complaints
dude, you're a pedo. we get it. just use cash then.
all digital money can be tracked. you think you bought those pics of little girls without the NSA knowing but they know. you're not so clever.

>>518614923
>bitcoin allows you to save without keeping your money in a jewish bank.
So does buying gold/silver and platinum faggot. The difference is your not hacking my silver/gold & platinum. And when the lights go out
>A) I still actually have my shit
>B) it's still TBD exact same value, if not more
This is a first. Nips, are usually really smort. I'm kinda of blown away by your stupidity right now. You e gotta be a tranny on a VPN.
>TRANNY DETECTED!!!!

>>518615021
Almost all bitcoin holders own only a small fraction of a single bitcoin. You are making small change.

>complaining about teenage whores on the Internet.
GAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY

>>518614923
> ofc you can save money
yeah of course you can save money - when money is just a representation of actual, real world value
it is not the case, and it hasn't been for a long, long time
BTC is today perceived as being some kind of store of value, and it is not - for the aforementioned reasons. It can be fucked with same as fiat - and it is already, as any monkey can see. The extreme volatility and the huge sudden jumps up/down are a symptom of that - market manipulation.
Sure, it is better than fiat. Like gold certificates can be. But again, if you think you can escape the kike's hand by buying BTC you're not reading the room.

>>518614996
>the only reason anyone takes your btc is they can cash out for jew money
the only reason anyone takes your fiat is because they can cash out in btc

see what I did there?

everything can be bought/sold for money.

i sometimes buy fiat so i can cash out in btc later on.

>>518614992
nigger btc is 100% co joined with the system its not outside it. It doesnt exist without being traded against usd. It would be nothing. Its just another way to transfer dollars, outside banks. Someone takes your dollars, gives you magic internet digits. You send magic internet digits. Somebody trades magic internet digits for dollars in other part of the world. The dollars are whats valuable there, what people want. The bitcoin is just a means. This is obvious even to crypto shills but you want your bags to pump lmao, scared of the dump today arent you

>>518615073
You're arguing in bad faith, like a kike
I'm not wasting more time with you

>>518614892
Try to monetize gold.
You need purity tests, scales, vaults, security, etc. and nobody is going to trust ft. Knox or China is actually holding it.

Monetize Bitcoin
It's confirmed pure and audited 24/7/365
Transferred anywhere in the world instantly.
Actively being programmed and developed.
Security is a global put option on kWh making it not only unstoppable but also making electric cheaper and more efficient across the globe.

>>518615147
You're a tranny

>>518615147
No one i pay with cash is buying bitcoin. Lmao. Where's every bitcoiner is dreaming of one day having cash.

Admit it.

>>518615074
>The difference is your not hacking my silver/gold & platinum
The nip isn't allowed to have guns to protect a PM stash so he wants to save it in a jewish slush fund instead.

>>518615139
>It can be fucked with same as fiat
by fucked with you mean buy/sell in large quantities? because thats what they're doing.

you want a form of money that you can't buy/sell in large quantities? lol nigger. you hate cbdcs but you seem to want them.

>>518615206
>instantly
Uhhhhh is somebody gonna tell him?

>>518615147
you dont pay tax with btc, and as of now people are paying taxes on crypto gains lmao so much for the independent system

>>518607117 (OP)
Most unstable value for a currency to ever exist award. Nobody uses it as money its just for gambling and money laundering.

>>518615021
your bags wont make you rich. Get a real skill wannabe "trader" hustling scamming vermin

>>518615150
>It doesnt exist without being traded against usd. It would be nothing
not true. it would be traded against other currencies or other assets. or even used for barter. or for work.
you're an argentinian jew.
lots of jew pedos in argentina.
>>518615163
you're a kike pedo.
go use monero then.
>>518615208
pro-banker kike
>>518615213
bitcoiners know that their purchasing power will increase over time as:
1. adoption grows
2. people move away from jew banks
3. fiat gets inflated to oblivion

why do you keep money in a savings account?

>>518615248
Look up lightning network and lightning network reference rates.
There's an entire economy being built while you nocoiners seethe.

>>518607373
It only just started
It will go down to 100k next month then 50k then 20k then 10k ...

>>518614522
Not possible, you are saying that there might come a point where btc is so worthless that the people who didnt sell in time, would just give their holdings away kek, do you understand how retarded this is?
It’s not a stock, if a company goes bust, the stock goes to 0 not because that’s what’s mutually agreed upon
You are suggesting at some point all remaining btc holders will mutually agree that what they hold is worth 0
Can’t take
>it will go to 0
Posters seriously

>>518615410
you're deluded the only reason it even gained traction was the incredible dollar profit it was giving its early investors, otherwise it wouldve remained a nerd experiment discussed in cryptography forums

>>518615410
>why do you keep money in a savings account?

Most of my wealth is not in a savings account. The money i do have in a savings account is for convenience. I use it to buy things.

>>518615460
There is a single bitcoin holder that has so much bitcoin there isnt enough money in bitcoin to cash him out. Which tells us that bitcoin isnt worth shit.

>>518615417
Im a landlord and a home owner. If we could bet money, im sure you are the one seething.

>>518615346
The state of this seething kike lmao

>>518615460
lmao, the way things are going, within the next 3 decades the only thing of value will be food, gas and ammunition

>>518615511
Wow saving in an asset that isn't inflated away and actually increases in value is so delusional amiright goys?

You should be working for Mr Sheklestein and in debt.
Because that's the way it works!

>>518615613
you dont even get the point i was making cause your probably just got to belgium from the congo. I have no problem with you retards dumping on each others in your little ponzi i was questioning the concept of being able to save your wealth at all, you know that very thing that made jews powerful by the use of GOLD, something belgium people know plenty about (not you nigger). So go be a retard elsewhere, ngububu

>>518615511
thats just your speculation.
even if so, who cares? its a solution to the jew banking problem.
christians dont seem to care that their religion only gained traction because of Rome's trans movement.
>see pic.

>>518615513
so how do you save money for when planning on making a large purchse?
bitcoin replaces most forms of low risk assets that give reliable, small returns (real estate, bonds etc)

>>518607117 (OP)
>I hate money with no intrinsic value only propped up by the government's faith in it
>I prefer money with no intrinsic value only propped up by random people's faith in it
Even ignoring that Bitcoin makes a shit currency due its instability. If you want ti buy something but the value of money is unpredictable do you buy it? Do you buy an xbox when it could cost 20% more or less in a week?

>>518615679
im sure playing the jew game of finance will turn out better for the goys

>>518615755
go play around in your fiat savings account with the 2% interest per year whilst the jews inflate currency at a rate of 100% or 300% whatever number they like, some day you'll get screwed by the jew and then you'll want money or a currency that is safer than what is currently available.

>>518615589
You're reliant on the government and replacement of the Irish people.
You're a traitor and have to deal with renters.

I guarantee I have more than you, but why make this a dick measuring contest.
Debate the topic.

>>518615764
no its not a solution its a mid step towards digital currency. Now CBDC is all the talk and its even a shill point now lmao. Youre all being played

>>518615100
The “people” who want to you stop caring that ewhores are making generational wealth by whoring out online
Are the same “people” who want you to stop buying btc
Things that should make you go hmmmmm

>>518615877
learn the difference between decentralised and centralised.

>>518615829
Lmao that's a good one.

>>518615764
>How do I save?
I have a pension and multiple properties.
>how do i buy things
Using money from my bank account.

As for bitcoin replacing low risk investments, it sure as fuck isnt low risk.

>>518615755
Didn’t read, go be a seething kike somewhere else

>>518615899
lmao.
they also desperately try to stop anti-semites on /pol/ from getting into bitcoin.

>>518615846
nigel my country knows plenty about being screwed by jews ok ? thats why i can identify the crypto scam for what it is , i cant believe you dumb clowns cant see it. Sure some of you will get rich (not the late buyers) but longterm you fall into their trap. There is nothing about bitcoin which threatens the bank system

>>518615454
Down to 10k and I still won't buy it. Would consider jumping back in at $800

>>518615957
wouldnt expect more from a nigger, go back to the congo

>>518615206
Ok, i get that, but can you refrain on gloating about bitcoin gains vs gold gains over time, its an apple and oranges comparison.
Also, I bet if bitcoin was IPOed in 2009 in a formal way in a proper market with high liquidity, and all major big player global investors and retail investors were given the white paper and explanations on the technology and its implications, it would have started trading in the thousands of dollars on the first day of trading, not at fractions of a cent. So the gains wouldn't be as crazy as starting from an arbitrarily low value of fractions of a cent because the technology was released very slowly into the unregulated low liquidity internet market made by some guy in his moms basement, basically by word of nerd internet forums.

>>518615940
You're a boomer and don't understand this.

Nobody gives a fuck about your pension and multiple houses it's played out jewish scam and they're killing your people to prop old traitor shit heads like you.
You should kill yourself.

>>518615940
Bitcoin replaces property as a low risk investment. investing in property in the future will be less brain dead and require some skill.

I also never asked you how you buy things, slimy irish jew banker.

it is low risk. zoom out on the chart.

>real estate needs constant bail outs
>banking needs constant bail outs
>pensions need constant bail outs
bitcoin doesnt get bailed out. (((YOU))) are supporting a high risk investment that is low risk and continues to fail.

>>518607419
what

>>518616008
My great grandfather chopped the hands off stealing niggers, and one day, my generation will chop the heads off stealing kikes like you
There’s your (you), desperate faggot

>>518615988
>>518615454

>>518612822
ahhh my eyes you fucking communist trash

>>518615410
>everyone who thinks crypto is a gay scam is a jew

>>518615454
You missed out, faggot. You will never be rich.

>>518616141
>implying jews would never invest in bitcoin.

>>518616027
You're seething about a chart showing 99%+ losses on gold from 6 years after Bitcoin was launched.

>>518615912
Its only use is to trade for dollars, dollars are centralised.

>>518615755
jews didnt get rich from saving, but from inflating currency

>>518616113
of course he did thats a regular thing in the congo jungle among you niggers

>>518616188
no they first accumulated gold for centuries, which gave them the power to invent currency. Or dou you think europeans just bowed and sucked their cock cause they had funny hats? they had shit loads of gold retard

>>518616177
you dont get it
posting those charts makes you look retarded to non midwits
i hope you get it now.

>>518615962
The banks are a threat to themselves, they think by becoming more central, introducing digital id and CBDC along with having even more control over the currency that they have improved the currency - this has merely made the currency more worthless because it is less possible to buy stuff I'd want to buy, they've already ruined fiat by printing that into oblivion and making it impossible to 'get ahead' or reach milestones like buying a house or god-forbid working a job for a decent wage.

Now the plan is to restrict the amount of/type of product you want to buy. They want to ban petrol/diesel cars by 2030, this helps them block payments for vehicles or restrict the amount of fuel, tax the amount of miles driven, but did this improve the economy? no, it made it more likely that I have less money to spend and I end up with a product I don't want (an electric car instead of a petrol car) and I am then also restricted by having to pay for electricity to charge my car, waste my time waiting for it to charge the car and I need to rely on slaves abroad to dig copper and rare earth minerals to build my electric car.

Crypto currency doesn't have a central bank that is printing the all the coins into hyperinflation, it does not tax me (though does charge a fee for using) and does not tell me what I can or cannot buy, it is an exchange of currency. I'd prefer, if I could put all my money into crypto & gold/silver only but that I still see a value in fiat/cash means I can still buy shit around me before they usher in their cbdc.

>>518607117 (OP)
>isnt used for real transactions
>is just the equivalent of gold for crypto boomers
lel

>>518607117 (OP)
Idk anything about bitcoin and can't be bothered to learn about that internet meme shit. I feel like it won't even be around in a few years.

>>518616233
nothing wrong with gold, its the fact dollar isnt backed by gold is the problem

>>518616141
>its a scam where everyone ends up in profit every 4 years.
lol. buy and hold.
>>518616180
no its not. people have purchased houses and land with it.
that buy eyed jeet chamath bought land with it and regretted it deeply (lol)

also what are you arguing for? to stick to the rigged jewish banking system?

>>518615021
>We live in a society
Indeed. I don't evwn want to reply to anything you said past that. You keep thinking about teenage whores.

>>518616317
There is something wrong but of course you'll call me a commie just for pointing it out when its basic common sense. Land was the way to store value , you need soldiers to defend it, it creates a local hierarchy. the moment people stored in gold, it opened the way to jews. Its what their whole religion is about, gold. Now they can steal your wealth, now they can bribe. Now they can save and transfer such mercenary thief wealth through the ages to continue their plans and centralise their power. You know nothing how the world operates

Nobody buys or lets you sell bitcoin when the market looks unstable. It's a scam.

>>518616458
>You keep thinking about teenage whores.
Could everybody stop talking about Epstein... Please!

>>518616343
only because the sellers could trade for dollars, you do know you have to pay tax on properties sales right? government doesnt take btc

>>518607117 (OP)
Not controlled by any one person and it's also completely fucking worthless. Great features, however, its deflationary design makes it completely useless as a currency.

>>518615899
Pictures of naked women are free.
>>518615854
Rentoid seething intensifies. If you were wealthy those immigrants would be making you money.

>>518616550
it depends on the seller.
bitcoin is the best we have. we are fighting for a better jew-banker-free world?

you want us to stick to the jew-banking system. why, mr steinberg?

>>518616554
Oh yes we need a Jew to control the money and inflate it or we can't have a currency!
I forgot that is the rule.

I guess I'm just a stupid goy.

>>518616510
Epstein raped teenage girls. They weren't whores for the most part. Trump probably did too.

>>518616591
You're a sad boomer sell out, I hope you live long enough to get what's coming, and I hope your ancestors torture you in the afterlife.

>>518616685
Low IQ post. Inflation means people actually get paid. If you want to live in a kiked society where all wealth is centralized, you're the jew, not I. We've already had this debate in American history anyway. Gold cucks lost.

>>518616631
you know nothing about me so dont draw conclusions . Lets be clear only work creates wealth. From harvesting a crop to building your house. Everything else is means of trading the output of this work. Money. Now the tribe we complain realised they didnt have to work if they acted as middle man so they became merchants. Just moving goods never creating, only trading. Then they figured they could make money their trade and you're playing right into their game. Currency must be created through real work , through wages. Not as debt, not as wasted computer power but wages, real tangible output. Crypto did get something right which is creating alternative currency which is not distributed by a central authority that is a key aspect to a more fair system

>>518616804
>Inflation means people actually get paid.
Lol wat?

Look up cantillon effect.
Jews steal your savings and dictate policy for free!

>>518616905
>ignores the question again, changes the subject
ok im done here kike

>>518616911
You're wrong. It's that simple. The last century of monetary policy proves you wrong retard. Inflationary currency is the only way to make the system work.

>>518616905
>not as wasted computer power
It's a put option. A minimum sell price.
It creates a local kWh futures market making electric cheaper and more efficient.

It's a genius solution you don't understand.

>>518614035
>inb4 layer 2 lightning network cope

>>518616997
Even John Maynard Keynes admits he didn't have an end game for his economic theory.
Infinite growth? You really think that's the answer?
More debt, more immigrants, more control?

You are arguing outdated economics that's failing in real time.

>>518617075
>infinite growth for me, but not for the
Ok kike. Or more accurately, low IQ wannabe kike.

>>518617210
What are you trying to say infinite growth for me?
Everyone is saying I'm a moron for 10+ years.

You saying the Jews should dictate monetary policy and ruin the world with no risk?

Pick a side faggot it's either bitcoiners or the jews.
>B..but Jews own some BTC
Yeah and when they spend it it's gone.
Can't print infinite amounts to keep the goy cattle in line.

Level the playing field.

>>518617002
i do understand it is a driver for cheaper and more efficient power but its not about that its about what money should be
>>518616970
im not ignoring it im telling you crypto is playing right into jew banker hands brainlet precisely because its useless without fiat. You need a new form of money beyond bitcoin to solve this problem. Something that is actually related to the real world, you know like production of goods and work

>>518616071
I can respect people who invest in bitcoin with a plan to exit it and dont pretend its low risk.

The buy and never sell and its low risk people are morons and will end up broke.

>>518616797
The mother of my child is an immigrant.

>>518617481
Local kWh futures contacts will be the new currency because issuing BTC denominated debt won't work.
The catch is the currency/debt will be backed by local energy production and support the local economy.
Mine BTC when you can't use the kWh for building your community.

Replaces the jews with local powerplants as the benefactors of the cantillon effect.
Allows for local production solving the triffin dillema.

>>518617591
I don't care, go talk about that with your neighbors who want to kill you.

>>518617710
Bitcoin wasting electricty doesn't mean its a store of value anymore than me heating my house with the windows and doors open would be a store of value.

Do people say these things just to get a reaction? Is it trolling? You have to get the energy back out for it to be a store of energy value.

>>518617743
My neighbors are rich white people. Lmao.

The people waving irish flags and complaining about immigration are all unemployed. Their complaint? Any welfare going to immigrants should go to them instead. Its their welfare!

Everyone laughs at them.

>>518617710
too bad 90% of supply has already been mined and half of it is owned by like 5 jews, not a whole lot of replacing there but whatever

>>518617827
It secures the ledger and makes people like you seethe that you can't steal and devalue it.

From there you can build bigger main powerplants planning for future growth and eliminating the need for expensive peaker plants.
The local kWh futures market is a beautiful invention.

Also you can innovative miners like this conserving energy and being paid to secure the network.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkVOJAWP688

>>518617879
It's hilarious you're profiting off the government abusing your people I'm laughing so hard.

>>518617882
You're worthless to reply to that other anon was right.

brown hands typed this

>>518618044
yes yes maybe if we started again, most of it was mined by nerds in their underpants with their desktop cpus, and you dream of giant power plants being built in competition for the remaining what.. 5% of supply? one cheto finger sell button from one of these neckbeards causing utter chaos is that what you want? you probably dont even have 1 whole btc lmao

>>518618173
lmao retard this destroys your stupid power plants argument. who cares about the 10% remaining btc most btc is already sitting in wallets or being traded

>>518617882
You can just pump your wealth into any other shitcoin that rises and crashes eventually. It’s innovative.
Genuinely crazy how this shit is getting hyped by twitterfags. There is nothing remotely useful about cryptocurrencies except rug pulls. wtf do you even do with it except buy meth or crack

>>518618234
You're so far up your own ass cheeto fingers got you seething.

>>518618333
i'll repeat it for you, most of btc has been mined. Like 95%.

>>518618139
My people arnt unemployed scroungers. Why do you think white people are okay with immigration? Most of them come for work. The people they are replacing refuse to work.

>>518618456
Yeah that's the distribution schedule.
Just because you missed out doesn't make you right lol

No coiner seethe

>>518618567
If i sold my property and bought bitcoin I'd have 16 bitcoins. That would put me in like the top 0.1% of bitcoin holders but why would I want slower growth and more risk??

>>518618567
you also missed out you definitely hold less than 1 btc. Probably bought at >80k for first time thats why you shill so hard. Oldfags wouldnt even be posting here. Doesnt make it any less of a jew scam and your power plants argument any less crap

>>518607117 (OP)
GMS!

If blockchain technology ever sees the light of day for the common person, it will be government controlled. No government in their right mind would ever give up on the power provided by fiat currency and numerics.

>>518618518
So instead of fixing the economy to make it worthwhile to participate, you replace your people with a slave class?

It's a bad solution and there will be fall out.

All I'm saying is Bitcoin fixes the economy and creates real growth and makes everything cheaper.
Your government hates it and wants to control everything and have a slave class.

When the bombs go off remember this should have been prevented but you were too selfish to learn.

>>518618759
The economy is worthwhile to participate in. Worked hard my whole life and now im well off. You could do what I did working in trades.

Would be long hours tho.

>>518618850
which trade

>>518607733
ok legalize conjoins then

>>518618862
Electrician or plumber? They charge a lot more per hour than I make and I ended up rich.

I suspect they are lazy and dont work a full week.

>>518618917
yea i guess with everyone in your country being computer fags nobody knows how to fix anything

>>518618862
There is a downside to trades in this country. A cycle. The economy is good right now. Demand for trades is enormous. You might get in now and then our economy crashes and there is no work for you.

>>518619045
I did a plumbing job myself recently.

>>518619048
everyone needs their shit fixed asap there is always work. just dont be a jew and adjust

>>518618323
Kike seethe goes a long way you just wouldn't understand

>>518619098
Irish tradesmen are conmen and gougers. You could clean up here if you are honest and work hard.

>>518618862
dumb asses will say plumber, electrician - the classics - and they're not bad
the real sauce is
locksmith
bonus goes to arborist (the climbing particularly links up to other trades that pay well, like climbing pylons or wifi towers to install/fix shit)

>>518607117 (OP)
>longest lasting pyramid scheme ever created
ftfy

>>518607148
OK retard

>>518615417
layer 2 cope kek

(((Here Now))) – Jewish occupied governments / central banks / media / etc, digital surveillance, censorship, wars, A.I. taking away jobs, Dollar and other currencies quickly losing value, etc

(((Future Plans))) – Major wars, high unemployment, massive economic crash, loss of property, difficulty getting food and basic necessities, universal basic income, crypto currency, world government, social credit, digital prison, required injections, depopulation, slavery, etc

>>518613800
you can only "save" in your precious ARS as long as you are able to buy products later on

>>518614270
if you invented a laser that could divide 1oz gold coins into a 10.000 pieces there would not be more gold, and it would cause the price to go up if anything since more people can suddenly buy a little bit of gold.