Thread 518626037

Whatever aid the west sends to Ukraine gets wasted because the leader of Ukraine is a jewish comedian who has no military training, experience, or background and squanders whatever he is given like some retard that doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

Case in point:

>>518626037 (OP)
That is the main reason the Russians haven't killed him. They've said this out loud on multiple occasions.

>>518626037 (OP)
ukraine still exists after 3 years
2nd strongest military is a joke
i think the joo does it pretty good

>>518626037 (OP)
Zelensky, Syrsky or AFU are not in charge of operations.
They get their fighting orders from literal negroid trannies dilating in Ramstein.

>>518626458
>i think the joo does it pretty good
Well, you don't know anything about war either then. Seems all the militarily competent Germans perished 80 years ago.

>>518626037 (OP)
>Whatever aid the west sends to Ukraine
only comes in at as a very slow drip.
so Ukrainians cant do shit with 10 abrams tanks and 3 F16 planes that took 3+ years to deliver.
also Zelensky isnt planning the military operations, thats what his generals and NATO advisors do.
hes just a figurehead.

Thats why Putin could take Kiyev'ev in just a few days...

>>518628031
they will just take it after the meatgrinder is finished.
at some point ukraine wont be able to do anything militarily as they are out of men.
then russia takes kiev fully intact and the survivors there will beg them for help.

>>518627751
>you don't know anything about war either then. Seems all the militarily competent Germans perished 80 years ago.
>t,

>>518628004
>only comes in at as a very slow drip.
You are right, but this is also why it is extremely important for Ukraine to conserve what they receive, use it wisely, and maybe even build it up until it reaches a critical mass (maybe). But just instantly throwing it at the front the instant it is received is a retard move.

>>518628031
>Zelensky was able to cause Russia to win slowly
Perhaps, but if Zelensky were actually competent he would have been able to cause UKRAINE to win.

>>518628351
>hahaha we're losing slowly
If this helps you /k/ope then so be it, but a real victory would be to actually be winning.

>>518626072
Makes you wish an AI disabled all their comms and weapons on the basis that modern society from the top down doesn't take war seriously

>>518630380
It's actually a bit more complicated than that. I don't think Zelensky is a total idiot, he just doesn't understand the military side of things.

>>518626037 (OP)
Seems nothing is getting into Pokrovsk anymore. Why Ukrainians keep getting encircled like this?

>>518626037 (OP)
>open expecting same apc pile up
>pleasant surprise Ukraine is sending tohers to die
Lmao

>>518626072
Why would you kill an asset? If you kill him someone competent could take his place.

>>518626572
Syrsky sure is giving orders as zelensky said if pokrovsk falls he will be fired. Suddenly 11 brigades were sent there. All disappeared though.

>>518631150
Prorussian accounts on Twitter say that the competence of Ukrainian troops is declining and their numbers as well

>>518626458
>i think the joo does it pretty good

RECOGNIZE paid shill-kike israeli VOCABULARY
KNOW (((their))) VOCABULARY WHEN YOU SEE IT
>meme flag
>"da jooz" or "da joos" <(spelling)
>"shitskin shitskin shitskin"
>"youre brown brown brown"
>"brown coded"
>"thirdie thirdie thirdie"
>"turdworlders"
>"meds"
>"mudslime, muzzie, muzrat etc"
>"pali(something)" etc
>"pallywood" or any bizarre israeli vocabulary dogshit
>"ackshully jews are based because they kill muslims!"
>"arab arab arab"
>"arguing about 'who's white' 'muh white race' shit and other retarded appeals to being 'white'

this is ALL israeli settler kike-speak
DO
NOT
ENGAGE
WITH
IT

>>518631511
>Syrsky sure is giving orders as zelensky said if pokrovsk falls he will be fired.
Something similar happened with Zaluzhny (Syrsky's predecessor) when Avdeevka fell. He either got fired or resigned IIRC at that same moment.

>>518631511
Doesn't invalidate my statement that they get orders from literal ngeroid trannies dilating in Ramstein.

>>518626037 (OP)
Ukraine nato command is embarrassing all they do it copy what russia does to be fair. The cope cages, drones tactics and even offensives like in op. The problem is they fail miserably cause 1 they no brains copying and 2 have less competency willingness in personnel as Russia does.

Zelensky is a actor nato commanders and ukraines are the losers here but they simply cant compete with russia in military the same way America can't compete with china in infrastructure development and engineering the personnel willingness and competency is not there.

>>518626037 (OP)
make a thread about this failed cunter offensive on /k/ please. lol

>>518630239
>to conserve what they receive, use it wisely
the issue with that is that the enemy is not standing still doing nothing, they are actively hunting the storage sites.
so you use it or you risk it getting blown up anyway without you getting to use it at all.

>>518626072
Exactly. Him and Syrsky are pure hilarity for Moscow.

Its also the reason why the allies didn't kill Hitler despite having men inside his inner sanctum ready to do it on an order given.

They realised he would be replaced by someone competent and fully aware of the situation and able to rectify the weaknesses. The west is trying to groom Budanov for power in the Ukraine though, so they're getting desperate now.

>>518626037 (OP)
I can't believe they did this, it shows how critically bad the situation is on the eastern front to risk sending all those vehicles packed with men and munitions down such an exposed vital intersecting road north of Pokrovsk.

>mfw the overwhelming air bombardments the last few days in so many major cities CNI's have led to the Kiev regime begging for a ceasefire with immediate effect due to serious risk of widespread freezing in the cities this winter

>>518626037 (OP)
>incompetent
This is by design.

>>518626458
>2nd strongest military is a joke
I agree, they lost a naval war to Yemen lmao

>>518626037 (OP)
>notoriously corrupt country does corrupt thing
>puppet leader doesn't seem to know what he's doing
>US proxy war slowly being lost
What a turn of completely unpredictable events.

>>518626037 (OP)
Just wait until the ghosts of Kiev get their f16s

The counteroffensive was 2 years ago. Yes, it was a fuckup, but do you have anything more recent? Mistakes happen in a war, but Ukraine holds. r*ssian gains are laughably small and their refineries are burning.

>>518634246
to me it looks like nobody actually wants ukraine to "win" and all the support is lackluster and halfassed and its always too little and too late.
oftentimes it even outright looks like the west is sabotaging ukraine, going back and forth with what they promise, or like when the americans just randomly turned starlink off so russia could advance or they give russia a heads up everytime they plan to do something and so on
the quality of the support is also bad, instead of the good high tech stuff ukraine gets old outdated stuff that is so inferior you are better off not using it (the radioactive bradleys from desert storm, the faulty javelins from the early 90s, the moldy Iglas and Strela manpads from germany, the artillery without targeting computers etc.).
and like I mentioned its all in drip fed in very low numbers so that its not in any way game changing.

Yes yes very sad

>>518636728
>to me it looks like nobody actually wants ukraine to "win" and all the support is lackluster and halfassed and its always too little and too late.
I completely agree. The goal was for NATO to win, it has more members, it doubled it's spending on defence, and Russia is economically weakened. Ukraine is a pawn of NATOs who happily fights in our interests. We do just enough to keep them fighting, the longer the war goes on the longer the cost to Russia and Putin will not live forever.

It's like Libya, we didn't actually give a fuck about the Libyan people, they were far better off under Qaddafi. It was about dominance in the region.

>>518626037 (OP)
but he doesnt handle it incompetently
Zelensky was always russian. His goal: To the last Ukrainian

>>518630498
you are just coping and implying that i said something i didnt say at all.
that just proves your sanity.
im just saying that Russia has drastically overestimated itself and massively underestimated Ukraine.

>>518626037 (OP)
Russia lost 1.2 million soldiers in 3 years

Russia is a fucking joke

>>518637126
>and Russia is economically weakened.
thats not really the case, their military industrial complex outproduces the entire NATO by 5x or so and it keeps growing.
+ they get more support from china and north korea, these are places that Ukraine cant touch and which also are massively geared towards military production.
>and Putin will not live forever.
Putin and Xi jinping recently talked about how they can easily age to 150+.
and even if Putin dies some other similar guy will replace him, maybe Medvedev or some other guy who is gonna be worse for NATO.
>It's like Libya,
its not like this at all
>It was about dominance in the region.
Russia dominates in Ukraine. NATO troops dont dare getting in there and they refuse to help shoot down russian missiles over ukraine.

>>518637419
90+% of all losses are Ukainian
either west Ukrainian or east (from the two republics)

the goal is To The Last Ukrainian. And it is gonna be achieved. Because the entire west and east want it this way

The only winning move is to not play

>>518636237
Wouldn't that mean Houthis are now 2nd strongest?

>>518637419
russia lost like 20 million people in WW2 and at the end still had the biggest military force in europe.
they can keep this war running for longer than US and EU can remain solvent or willing to support ukraine.

>>518626037 (OP)
>handling of the war
hamburgers?
now talk about handling of the Epstein Files

>>518636688
my turkish brother, the footage in OP was recorded within last 72 hours outside of pokrovsk

>>518637884
I guess it depends, if defeating someone in a higher tier gave you their spot, Afghanistan would be pretty high up there considering how many empires they btfo, but then where does that leave other countries like Vietnam and Yemen?

>>518637419
>Russia lost 1.2 million soldiers in 3 years
>
>Russia is a fucking joke
You're the joke if you seriously believe that. kek

>>518637126
>Putin will not live forever.
He should manage to live long enough to see this war successfully concluded at least. All the claims about him facing an imminent coup or dying from cancer or whatever never panned out.

But no one lives forever, that is correct. But his successor will be from someone among his inner circle, so don't expect things to radically change when that time comes. Russia is far too large and powerful for the west to slap a yoke upon. They did try that with Yeltsin, but it didn't work out. That's why Western Neocons loved to talk about Russia breaking apart into a bunch of smaller countries like what happened to Yugoslavia, because only then could it be weakened enough to vassalize. But this is very unlikely to happen for a number of reasons. It may be more likely for the west to splinter apart after it loses this proxy showdown in Ukraine.

>>518637126
>I completely agree. The goal was for NATO to win, it has more members, it doubled it's spending on defence, and Russia is economically weakened.

lmao nato failed so hard it will be dissolved one the ink dries on ukraines inevitable surrender

>>518637126
>>518639466
>lmao nafo /k/ posters are so unimaginably pathetic they can only impotently muse about Putins death as the only foreseeable "win"condition europe can fantasize about, from this entire pathetic failed war to balkanize Russia

why dont you just go back to saying "Russia has already lost!"