Thread 518629708

Is it compensation from all the low T everyone has from all the gooning?

politically

>>518629708 (OP)
You may not believe this but some people are making car payments on shitboxes

the cheapest new car in brazil costs 15k dollars and our minimum wage is 200 dollars

>>518629708 (OP)
You have to hate yourself to buy a mitsubishi.

>>518630219
The only mistubishi a self-respecting man can drive is a forklift

Because they think $500,- per month for 60 months is cheaper than $20.000,- up front.

>>518630036
Is this real? Well i suppose if you really need a car and have no money saved.

>>518629708 (OP)
Do you fix your shitbox yourself?

>>518630219
You might be on to something there

>>518630167
200 dollars in what? Brazilian dollars, per week, per hour? You might as well through out history dates or something. Give your numbers context.

>>518630575
month

>>518630167
So enter the shitbox. Im not from brasil and i cant afffort a new car. It would not be wise to waste your money on that

>>518629708 (OP)
Consider the following:

>>518630559
Si

>>518629708 (OP)
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/why-do-poor-people-waste-money-on-luxury-goods
>In contrast, “acceptable” is about gaining access to a limited set of rewards granted upon group membership. I cannot know exactly how often my presentation of acceptable has helped me but I have enough feedback to know it is not inconsequential. One manager at the apartment complex where I worked while in college told me, repeatedly, that she knew I was “Okay” because my little Nissan was clean. That I had worn a Jones of New York suit to the interview really sealed the deal. She could call the suit by name because she asked me about the label in the interview. Another hiring manager at my first professional job looked me up and down in the waiting room, cataloging my outfit, and later told me that she had decided I was too classy to be on the call center floor. I was hired as a trainer instead. The difference meant no shift work, greater prestige, better pay and a baseline salary for all my future employment.

a lotta ppl dont know shit about how to fix even the most minor of things
if you cant even muster that, you should not drive a shitbox
so that is who is paying car payments
yuppies, basically

>>518630653
Too rainy in colgateland for that

>>518630775
If you were paying a mechanic every time something needed fixing would you think a new car on payment was cheaper?

I bought a shitbox with that idea and immediately spent $5000 in repairs right away.

>>518630649
Yep, everybody buys shitboxes here. But even them are expensive as hell. A car from 1997 costs like 2k dollars

>>518630929
I guess it depend if you trust your mechanic. A local dude here is really good and wont fuck you over. Obviously its gonna be more expensive than donit all yourself, but, to answer your question. I think its more expensive to take a carpayment which is 500a month or more than to take the shitbox to the mechanic

>>518630575
200 bowls of uma delicia

>>518630994
I really dislike the ford ka to be honest. But, its got a ice engine so its better than an ev i guess

>>518630807
Nothing wrong with outsourcing technical expertise when you can afford to do so.

>>518630963
What needed fixing right away? ls swap doesnt count

>>518631104
I think a large portion of those that pay monthly aren't mechanically minded and have been ripped of by a rouge mechanic before. They then decide it's cheaper/less stressful/more predictable to get a new car with warranty and fixed monthly payment.

>>518631194
yeah most people don't like it as well, but it is the cheapest car with a decent engine there is
If you want to spend a little bit more you usually get a Fiat Uno or a VW gol

>>518629708 (OP)
I have nothing else to spend my money on

>>518630344
>>518630219
>>518630567
I remember the Evo reviews in Top Gear.
"Amazing car", "better than the Impreza", "you'd be the biggest nerd to own one if you're a man, but if you're a girl, wooo!"...
Then in one of those reviews they mention the turbo that made that version the best only lasts 1500 miles.
Meaning you'll never use it if you want to keep affording the car.
Meaning it's the most uncool thing in the history of sports cars. Like an MG42 that is only capable of single fire.

>>518631356
Ive never seen that. Is it really called a gol?

Hey im not traying to bash your transportation method, even if its a ka ;). Whatever runs runs, right? You do some of your own maintenance?

>>518629708 (OP)
Newer stuff generally doesn’t breakdown randomly, this is important as breakdowns fuck up making money. So might as well have a payment and security of mind

>>518631472
Never heard of a turbo that can be switched off thoughverbeit. Its bolted to the exhaust

>>518631494
Yep, it was made by VW Brazil, it's a poor man's Golf, it's legendary here and people usually tune it to hell because it's cheap as hell
> Whatever runs runs, right? You do some of your own maintenance?
Right now I haven't got a car, but soon maybe I will

>>518631472
Also with the evo you have endless problems with the hydraulic pumps for the awd system, you also need to exchange that every xxk kms and it costs like 2500.
The impreza however just drives and needs minimum maintenance.

>>518629708 (OP)
shitboxes are gouged to shit, everyone thinks theirs is a mint condition classic even with thousands in repairs just around the corner. and depending on where you are if it was ever cheap its been in the hands of a mexican and possibly over the border

>>518629708 (OP)
>enshitification has finally hit the used market

Cars start falling apart at 100k miles now. I just sold my shitbox recently for this exact reason. 125k and 9 years old. Never abused it. Bought "muh reliable jap brand". Changed the oil, rotated the tires, did all the scheduled maintenance...

Didn't work. Something new was breaking on it every month. $200 for that. $1500 for this. And thats with me doing the work. If I paid someone else, these repairs would easily equal the cost of a nice new car. The trade in value was fucking nothing either. Not even worth fixing up to sell. I wouldn't have got my money back.

Shitboxes were the play back when repair parts didn't cost $2000 for a plastic radiator. Every car still on the road after 200k is some boomer fud that can fix cars but can't do math.

>>518631734
Looks pretty nice. Never knew it existed

>>518631612
I think it has a bypass switch.
There's no way they can sell a car with that low a mileage cap on the turbo without one. Customers would bitch every 1500 miles.

>>518631770
I forget what part it was, but the Imprezas of the same period as the Evo 8 fcrqhqpsufn3psp do have a time bomb deep in the engine that's a nightmare to get to.

>>518629708 (OP)
Most Americans can better afford 3 years of 700/mo payments than a one time payment of $5k

This whole damn country is propped up by debt and financing. It’s unreal

>>518631996
What car?

>>518632045
VW basically made tons of unique cars for us. Fiat as well

>>518629708 (OP)
I drive a shitbox GMC pickup and it's the best vehicle I've ever owned
>New Hondas
>New Acuras
>New Toyotas
All some gay shit wrong, usually with some suspension component or A/C bullshit. This thing just works and it's easy / fun to fix.

>>518632141
Toyota

>>518632253
Be more specific, Toyotas are normally pretty good. Was it a new(er) model? Which one? Manufacturing year?

>>518632253
I guess you’re embarrassed to say which car you bought?

>>518629708 (OP)
>Why are people getting carpayments instead of driving a shitbox
status mostly, and predatory lenders (surprised?)
people dont want to be perceived as poor like its fucking aids or something
so they get locked into car payments that are $500-700 a month and the interest is so high they will never be able to pay it off
the lenders love these people who just want the car but havent considered exactly the long term financial burden is

>>518631356
VW do Brasil had some sick cars we didn't get here. Jealous.

Will gladly drive my '15 tundra to shitbox territory and keep it there. Plenty of old cars have dumb problems depending on the previous owner. I've had bad luck with used cars otherwise I'd have gotten something cheaper. Used car market is total trash in Florida but shit in NC there's plenty of decent used cars at great prices.

>>518629708 (OP)
I've been driving shitbox for 17 years and sofar have refused to buy a new one. My car makes dealships seethe.

I bought it in for recalls once and they tried to sabotage it. They swapped out my left door control pod to a broken one and left my airbox unclipped.

>>518631996
Is this true?

Fuck thats expensive, my new radiator was 70euros, unironically

A Toyota made part for a 10 year old Toyota will last. Once they stop making the part-- you are stuck with ONapaZone shit parts. If the part takes 4 hours of labor to replace and now only lasts 15k miles instead of 150k miles-- is it worth it? Times that part by every part you need replaced on your shitbox. If you have to drive through niggertown or get to work on time-- well, your fucked. Chink made parts have failure rates out of the box pushing 20%. A one in five chance that the "new" part never works from day one.

I have old shitboxes and reluctantly-- a newer car too. Another thing ivy league jews did to destroy our country and extort us.

>>518632172
Thats cool. I never knew

>>518632410
Prius probably

>>518630567
What's wrong with this one?

>>518629708 (OP)
Suburbs
Suburbanites egos and personalities are tied to what they drive. They are very fragile and inclined to hostile rage when it comes to their shiny metal boxes.

>>518632683
Its fine now. It had a leaking headgasket

Shitbox chads keep winning

>>518630787
In my early 20s, I used to dress like a slob. Always tshirts and jeans to work. I got pulled aside by a particularly wealthy consultant. With an air of exhaustion at his own effortsI he said "Look, I know it sucks, but people do in fact judge you based on the way you look."

It was good advice. I ignored it at the time but its proven to be true.

>>518629708 (OP)
I dread the day my polished shitbox finally dies and I'm stuck with having to buy some 2020 nu-car that sucks dick.

>>518632983
Preach! And yes, the color of winning is rustbrown

>>518630167
you can't fit a car in your narrow favela roads anyway.

For you it's a moped scooter.

>>518633371
Why not just buy another shitbox?

>>518629708 (OP)
All the illegals bought up the shit boxes so you can't find any good ones anymore.

>>518631314
I'm in that boat. Used to be really anti lease, finance etc, but these days I make enough money that I would lose more from missing a day of work due to car trouble than I do in four months of lease payments. I'm handy enough but I don't enjoy working on cars myself, it's a PITA

>>518633371
Yes buy another like anon said, they’re still out there

>>518633533
Same boat. I had shitboxes for 25 years that were supported by my constant repairs. Finally got something new and its peace and security.

>>518633237
You mean suiting up?

Im trying to find a suit but im top heavy so it fits weird

>>518629708 (OP)
cars are for poor fat faggots.

>>518630649
If nobody buys new cars, where are the used cars coming from?

>>518629708 (OP)
Why haven't you got yours done?
A real man would have that shit fixed or sold by now.

>>518633449
I've contemplated storing a second model of my shitbox for future use but I don't know where I could store it without accumulating exorbitant long-term fees. It's just that the shitboxes of the future are likely going to be overcomplicated piles of shit that don't have the same integrity as say a 2005-2015 era vehicle and will be designed against consumer repairability.

>your vehicle is disabled because the external "whurr" making sound box is no longer functional and requires an AES256 encrypted firmware update at a registered dealership, repair cost will be $1800

>>518633237
You can prove this to yourself. Pay attention to whether people argue with you when you dress up vs accept your opinion. In my experience, when I am unbathed, dressed slovenly (comfortably) I am not taken serious. When I wear a suit, or even just a button up, I am. By the same people that saw me dressed as a slob the day before. Dress and presentation ARE WHO YOU ARE. It is not the version of yourself you have in your head. It's who everyone else sees.

Some may see this as hollow, but I would push back and say that saying the person you see yourself as being the real you is the real hollow perspective. Who gives a shit about the virtues you extol inside your meat helmet. What happens in the real world and what people see is the ONLY thing that matters.

>>518631734

It comes with check engine lights that can never be fixed.

>>518630219
They truly are the most awful Japanese car. (Sorry Lancer fags)

>>518633922
Truth, but i want anons not to take stupid carpayments and just save more money.

>>518633970
Nobody buys this

I drive it till its dead

>>518632725
>wahhhhhhh r/fuckcars
>shiney metal box wahhhhhhjj

Why do poor people try so hard to convince others they aren't coping? Why do they try to convince us their poverty lifestyle is completely by choice? We all know if your rich uncle died and left you $1million the first thing your coping ass would do is buy the car Im driving.

>ILL NEVER CHANGE
>FUCK PUSSY I DONT NEED IT
>I ACTUALLY LOVE RIDING THE BUS
>I ACTUALLY LOVE THAT IT TAKES ME 45MIN TO GO TO THE FUCKING STORE
>I ACTUALLY LOVE HAULING ALL MY SHIT AROUND ON A BIKE IN THE RAIN

Everyone knows somebody like this. Then one day a few dollars hits their account and they turn into the biggest materialistic faggot you've ever met.

>>518634007
I have an old volvo 240 in the driveway. Its not road legal, i put it on hold with taxation and insurance so it doesnt cost me.

Its rotting away thoughverbeit

>>518634132
Good arguments, maybe ill try to dress better in the future

Just got my hands on a 2000 Chevy Silverado, gonna keep this thing limping to a million miles.

>>518634803
Had too look it up. Thats a nice car, dude
Hows the rust?

>>518633873
>Do not redeem the cars Saar!!!

>>518634803
If you live in a rust area, spray the underside with fluid film or wool wax every fall

>>518634619
Wish I had storage space, I'm stuck watching my shitbox slowly decay from road salt corrosion everywhere. I hate it because I don't really know how to fix it, even if I could weld metal back on, the metal on the car gets so thin nothing can be done. I'm currently trying to build some experimental sacrificial anodes to put on the body but it's been tried many times with limited success so I'll need a more intuitive approach.

>>518635187
I try to use rust paint on everything and have been building it up over time, seems to actually work not bad. Only problem comes from rust inside frame rails and things that are difficult to access or clean out rust build-up.

>>518634945
>>518635187
Honestly the rust is pretty good for its age, had to replace some brake lines but that's common on this truck. I'm about to have my first kid, part of the draw of this truck is it's the three-door variant so we can do the car seat and such no problem.

>>518631472
The only real Evo was the VIII. I want to import an Evo IV, but the JDM import market is a meme now thanks to the import restrictions on the cool 90's cars going away. I saw a Skyline just last night.

>>518629708 (OP)
I like having nice things. The European automaker fears the Samurai

>>518634601

It depends on the use case

For most Americans driving a car is probably a necessity

But in SF even rich kids and people who own a car prefer to take the bus most of the time

I saw a video of Prince William riding a scooter and reflected that for the use case of conveniently moving around a country estate a scooter is probably the optimal means of doing so

And this is a man who has access to Harrier jumpjets and such

>>518634619
Dad had one of them. Years and years, miles and miles. Full of rust and the fuel pump started giving in, no uphill starts. Switxhed to a Ford bexause he likes those for some reason. The Ford well for a few years until an electrcal failure. Not even the dealer had an idea what went wrong, but did give some trade-in money.

Anyway the three-digit volvos are made to operate after the nuclear holocaust, look into wood gas. None of them had any trouble with the recent fuel fuckery. I still see Amazons and PVs relatively often.

>>518629708 (OP)
I'm not mechanically inclined, I travel a lot due to this shit gig economy. If I didn't travel I probably would have picked a small hatchback like a pet cruiser, or mini Cooper instead of a new truck.

>>518630418
>Because they think $500,- per month for 60 months is cheaper than $20.000,- up front

But it is?
Asuming wage growth + inflation + raises + time, 500 a month is better than 20k upfront.
You then have to understand that cars depreciate and a new car depreciates less.

Anyway, flashy cars and are for suckers, buy second hand and never more expensive than 5000 dollar/euro.

>>518636704
>and are
are, just are, no and

>>518635774
Looks nice! How many horses? I dont think they sell those here thoughbeit

>>518636414
Every single generation of these Volvo wagons is stunning.

>>518629708 (OP)
The results of Capitalist culture and non stop marketing and advertising on the human mind. In other words driving a "shit box" makes you look poor and unsuccessful to others and most people today are weak minded insecure scum who care about that.

>>518636414
Cool story. Your dad was based at first it seems.
Yes these engines, volvo reblocks never die. Its the fucking rust always

>>518636704
> new car depreciates less.
Amazing bait, I bite

>>518629708 (OP)
small cocks

>>518629708 (OP)
Used car prices are so inflated here that they almost cost the same as new cars

>>518637298
thank u for this gem. shitbox is the way

>>518637098
That’s just not true. Cheapest new car is around 20k pretax and it’s small and dangerous to get in collisions in. For same 20k you get a respectable used mid level car that will break down about as often as the former, but is much more comfortable and safer.

Safety when driving the same road as soccer moms is most important. If I cared about saving money at all costs I would ride a motorbike(and die because some cunt didn’t look before merging)

>>518632417
You can repossess the car and sell it to the next sucker. Dozens of times for every car. And they all still owe you money when you're done. That's what capitalism is all about. Making debt slaves.

>>518636873
355 HP stock, very fun with AWD

When you are caught in the debt trap, you can never get enough cash together to buy anything. All you have is your future income. Once your cash flows have been eaten up by debt, you lose your capacity to save, and you lose your capacity to invest, which are the only ways you can stay afloat and get ahead, respectively.

The average person doesn't have $5000 for a used shitbox car and they can't wait a year to save for it. You need a car to get to work to make money in the first place. Faced with a year without a car to save for a shitbox (difficult if not impossible) and $500 payments on a NEW car, they take the payments. Auto manufacturers finance their own products and make sure almost anyone can qualify for the loan.

Everyone experiences this with real estate, but they still claim all debt traps are about being lazy and stupid. Nobody goes homeless while saving the down payment for a house which can take years if not decades. You have to pay rent which severely limits your capacity to save. This is the trap. And the harder people get squeezed, the further down this goes. From real estate to cars to cell phone to repairs for cars to paying for groceries with a credit card and so on.

Rich people's excess of money allows them to invest and make even more money. Poor people's lack of money forces them to take on debt which loses them even more money.

>>518637655
Nice, thats plenty. What engine is it? V6 or something?

>>518637985
Yeah turbo 6

>>518637899
It’s illegal to be homeless in Florida.

>>518638057
Noice, probably sounds great

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ninvP_9ns00

>>518629708 (OP)
In my country it's because Obama destroyed the used car market with Cash 4 Clunkers.

>>518638164
So they give you a home?

>>518636989
Baby duck syndrome perhaps, I guess his first new car was a Ford and it left an impression.
The Vovlo had been all over Lapland, we got it for dirt cheap and it worked for us for ages until rust and fuel pump.

>>518638552
Fuel pump is an easy fix thoughbeit

>>518637032
>Amazing bait, I bite

Kia gives a 5 or 10 year warranty or whatever, as long as thats active it doesn´t depreciate as fast.
But again, new cars or flashy cars are for faggots, cars with limited sales are for suckers too.
Good luck finding a transmission for a Mitsubishi Lancer from 2014.

>>518632508
>Times that part by every part you need replaced on your shitbox.
New car mentality.
Cars made pre-2011 have very little parts that require replacing beyond friction parts and normal wear. So that 'ONapaZone' part will probably be a once every 5 year purchase maybe.
There is a period between 2012 and 2016 where manufacturers were transitioning to the modern "everything is a sensor" mindset and the cars have a combination of computerized sensors and traditional analogue that makes repairs a nightmare.
Modern cars are a nightmare because the parts are not sold to consumers and all of them have computerized sensors that inform engine behavior, so the slightest error can cause performance issues and increase the effect of problems or introduce more problems later.
It's a nightmare. Old school is the way to go if you aren't part of the "has a job + savings + good credit" portion of society so you can consistently qualify for, maintain and insure a new vehicle. The people I see struggle with vehicles the most are poor & middle class people who have a hard time saving for emergencies. They tend to drive older cars and fix them when they have the money.

>>518629708 (OP)
susie will make fun of sarah if sarah doesnt have the newest car and sarah would be so embarrassed if her bf showed up in a car thats older than 3 years old.

>>518630167
Here it's 10k+ and 80 dollars monthly.

Seems strange to me since Brazil is doing so well economically speaking. I always thought Argentina, having a history of protectionisms that causes cars worth 5k to be worth 10-15k, was unique.
I feel your pain monkey bro.

>>518639087
80 dollars weekly*

It's very hard to find good shitboxes nowadays because of Obama and then the scamdemic

>>518629708 (OP)
Many people are priced out of houses and mortgages so theyre free to get better cars. And manufacturers are free to make more expensive cars

>>518629708 (OP)
>buy shitbox
> timing chains break, rear main seal blows, catalytic converters get plugged, turbo engine stops work
>go to mechanic
$9001 + tip to repair
Very cool.

>>518629708 (OP)
A lot of the shitboxes were rounded up and shipped overseas or used for missile practice. Probably to keep Americans from buying them instead of newer cars

>>518634601
Yep. Seen it many times. People who lie to themselves are just the worst.

>>518640399
I dunno dude, i think alot of ppl get on carpayments and are better off not doing that.

>>518640218
This is evil

>>518637391
they hated him, for he sproke the trvke

>>518629708 (OP)
I'm not poor?
I like reliable cars?
I enjoy cars with some luxury?
I drive off-road in remote areas?
I'm responsible for children and I want to keep them safe?
I like an aesthetically pleasing vehicle?
I'm not fucking poor?
Ya lots of reasons.

Think back over the last 4 or 5 yrs how many area's were flooded, the news showing acres of new and used car lots, huge parking lots of flooded cars,..where did they all go?

Currently driving a 2016 Civic. 108k km. What's the play when it's time to turn it over? I'm not buying new and everything used but newer now is kind of shit plus they all track you for the matrix. Part of me keeps thinking about buying something from the 90s/00s instead.

>>518641233
>>518639344
>>518640218
Do NOT Research.

>>518638522
Yeah, a special kind of home where you get raped by gang members. And if/when you get out, it's practically impossible to get a job or a lease as a felon. So in Boomer logic - just don't be homeless and you're fine!

My car was 15k when buyed and was 2 years old
Now its 12 or 14 years old and still strong
But Im sick and tired of needing to replace oil and filter every year

Check electrical vehicles they wont need yearly scamservice right

Wat, WV and all others still require some inspection scam every other year or else your warranty is out

What fucking scam no thank you Ill pass

Kind of fucking losers cant make a product with warranty and not require "service" "inspection" requiring giving them more schekels

>>518635710
Get gapped my sleeper E93 N54 FBO STAGE 2+ will do donuts around your S lol. I’m not even going to show you what’s in the garage you do see my driveway is empty right!
Trade that in for a new one

(Nice car tho the new ones are the best car Acura has ever made)

>>518641716
1 a year? 2 a year or every 2000 miles I have 5 cars so I can’t drive them all. 2 of them I take to the dealership 2 I do my self and 1 I take to AAA it’s $100 which is a good deal for the work and oil type I get my Mercedes and Audi done at the dealership I do the BMW at AAA and do the volvo and grand marquee on my own. Maintenance is worth 100x a repair

>>518641399
Buy a 2001 passat tdi, those go forever

>>518630219
Beats nigsan

>>518641716
> But Im sick and tired of needing to replace oil and filter every year

Why that? I think its the most relaxing job ever. With some beer and the likes

>>518629708 (OP)
shouldn't gooning increase your T, same way working out increases your strength and endurance? scientifically

>>518643505
> scientifically

Im sorry this a political discussion.

>>518643621
what is politics if not a science? a religion?

>>518644117
Carpayments

>>518630167

Just wait until BYD gets their new factories going full tilt over there and they're going to sell you some piss cheap cars for 5k a pop.

>>518644413
Ev tech is scary. And charging is stupid

>>518634508
hey colgateman is that a Mitsubishi Colt CJ0?

>>518644413
They teated this, if you go 130km/h you can drive 374, is what it showed. Thats just too little, and this is a new one, its gonna diminish down.

>>518644968
*374km

>>518643365
>Why that?
Not allowed by environment laws to do it infront of my own house I have to drive to rent a lift and collect the oil into a pan and if I leave one drop behind the fee is 300 eur
Oh the lift rent is 40 eur

>>518645056
Is anyone actively checking that shit? They have so little to do overthere?

Dont need a lift, you have a jack

>>518645494
Neighbors rat out, its Greta country man

>>518630036
>>518629708 (OP)
Does that say your shit box has 14 psi?

>>518644900
Unironically its a 1994 lancer 1.6

Basically the same engine as the colt

>>518629708 (OP)
boomers. boomers wanna walk in to a clean shiny floor with dudes in suits, be 80 years old, sign the a lease for 20 years, and roll out in a brand new 2025 lexus, hyundai, acura ect. honestly i cant blame them. thats smart af

>>518629708 (OP)
It's better that it stays that way. We don't need the flipper culture to drive used car prices up

>>518646383
Yes, around 14 psi, why?

>>518646901
Hey if you can sure. They can do it, but if you’re younger i would save money and go for the shitbox

>>518631239
True but there is something to learning the basics. You don’t need a plumber because your fill valve is broken on your toilet. You don’t need a mechanic to change your brakes. You can pay for it but if you are remotely concerned about money you should try to learn to fix your own shit. Before saying your time is more valuable 60 percent of Americans can’t come up with a $1000 without using credit

>>518629708 (OP)
I want to buy a new car but they all seem to be rolling data collectors. Probably should just stay with my shitbox until it shits the bed.

>>518648570
What do you drive?

>>518647011
>around 14 psi, why?
Looks like it's actually saying psi is on the outside of the gauge. Idk what the inside is

>>518631104
>$500/month
That's insane. I lease and I only do that because it's $180/month. It's much harder to find a decent old car for that price post-COVID unless you're going into 25+ year old cars that have no service history or are the cheapest fleet cars disposed of at 300,000 miles.

>>518648872
2001 Audi A3. Most stuff in the interior has broken. But the engine still runs without issues. Just the regular maintenance stuff, changing oil, brakes, timing belt, etc...

>Why are people getting carpayments instead of driving a shitbox?
Not everyone works at Taco Bell.

People are just getting scooters and some of them aren't gay.

>mfw never had a car payment in 31 years of living

I've drove shitboxes my entire life. Dad bought me a used mazda which I drove from 2013 - 2021. Ended up with like 230,000 miles on the OD. My schizophrenic uncle killed himself in 2021 so I flew out and drove his 1998 Ford ranger back to my location. He didn't drive much so it only had like 80,000 miles on it. Had that car for 2 years, then my grandfathers older brother died at 95 in 2023 and the wife couldn't drive and moved to a nursing home. Flew back home again and drove his 1999 Toyota avalon back to my location like 1,500 miles back. Sold the Ranger to a friend for like $2,000 because it was a lemon and probably cursed. Still driving the avalon to this day, I even put a 12" sub in it and a new speaker system myself. Just over 100,000 miles now. Thing is great, but dinged up because the geezer would bump into shit all the time. Don't really see a point in fixing minor cosmetic stuff, I keep it clean inside and out.

Had to pay for maintenance, gas and upkeep for all of the aforementioned, but I still got by just fine. Feel lucky to have been born into this, My grandparents have a car they rarely drive anymore so whenever they pass I'll just get that one lol.

>>518649090
No you’re right, the middle part is kph x100.

Sonita allmost 195psi

>>518649355
I work at an okay job but still drive a shitbox, many people do. My co-worker bought new with all the maintenance packages and whatever and was complaining about how they just got dinged $700 CAD to lubricate some brake caliper pins. Shitboxes will always be king over Jewish paymobiles.

>>518649098
180 a month isnt that bad. But i hear more people have like 500-600 a month

>>518649742
>Sonita
Is that the model of car or were you trying to say "so it's almost "

>>518649750
I don't have a retard brain so I don't live in normies psychosomatic 'don't save money' playground.
The dealership offers coupons and deals, I use them.
$200 for 3 years of oil changes, prepaid.

The biggest expense will be a ceramic coating that I will do soon but it lasts 2-3 years and makes the car look very good.

>>518650080
So its allmost* im phone posting, my apologies

>>518629708 (OP)
I don't even drive. I walk and I can't imagine you poors dedicating 200-500 a month just to get to work and back when you should be saving money.

>>518631472
>Like an MG42 that is only capable of single fire
what if i wanted to shoot 100 dudes once instead of one dude 100 times though

>>518650215
It's ok, my phone fucks stuff up too.
What car is that? I thought you typed sonita which also has a Mitsubishi engine

>>518649121
Nice, those r good. Probably allmost no rust aswell

>>518650280
>I walk

>>518650378
Unironically its a 1994 lancer 1.6

>>518629708 (OP)
I dunno. I drive a 30 year old car. I like my car. The smell of plastic has finally gone and it's totally comfortable. The only problem with the car is that people complain that it is too old. Wife doesn't care either. It's just weirdos who have no impact on our money who say something.

>>518650634
There are small specs of rust on the hood and on one of the passenger doors. But the rust hasn't grown for like a decade now so I dont worry about it.

>>518650132
>$200 for 3 years of oil changes, prepaid.
That's a shit deal even with inflation considered over three years, they wouldn't be offering you that unless you were being stiffed.

>>518650910
Its probably zinkdipped, the whole body.
Atleast thats what theybused to do at audi

>>518650887
*20 years old. Not 30.

>>518650933
$70/change is very normal in the USA even for a non-Luxury car. It's only going to be cheaper if you pay a literal retard shop to do it, or do it yourself. Which, if you can afford the service, it's not worth it.
It helps that I live in a very nice area as well: driving around is 20x more kino than in a shithole city.

>>518650819
Don't know much about them but I'm under the impression they're good. Think I've seen them in racing games

>>518650992
It's like 4-5 small weird spots on the hood where the paint has fallen off and there's rust under. Like half a cm in diameter. Then the classic in the corner of one of the doors.
But the engine runs perfect still, some issues with the cooling system. Have changed thermostats and everything but it still complains about being too hot.
But all in all it's been real cheap to drive. Have had it since 2010. Aside from fuel, oil, washer fluid, and coolant, it has cost probably about 1000€ in maintenance.

>>518651220
Sand that shit down and repaint it

>>518651182
This is the lame version. There real one is the lancer evo gsr from 1994. It has a 2liter turbo and 4wheeldrive, no crazy horsepower but enough for having fun

>>518641209
Almost all US manufacturers and many Korean manufacturers are now designing their cars so that critical components such as their drivetrain fail at 60,000 miles, no matter how well the vehicle is serviced. Planned obsolescence needs to be vigorously controlled through legislation

>>518651068
Changing your car oil and filter is about as difficult and time consuming as changing out some deep fryer oil in your kitchen. I can't understand why anyone would even need to take a car in for this, it's almost at the level of needing a mechanic to refill your gas tank. $70 USD is ridiculous, you could do it yourself for half the price or even less if you buy oil/filters when they're on sale and store it away.

>inb4 muh value of time tho
You spend more time waiting in the little cuck room at a garage while a real man works on your vehicle than if you did it yourself.

>>518632594
HAHAHAHA
>>518632355
This.
With Toyota you go places.

>>518651220
Maybe get a new radiator too, and check for air in cooling system. It takes a while to airbleed the system

>>518651490
Its ok. Maybe boring to todays standards thoughbeit

>>518630167
So why the fuck would you buy a new car?

>>518651579
>You spend more time waiting in the little cuck room at a garage while a real man works on your vehicle than if you did it yourself.
Personally I don't live in a shithole part of the USA, so it's not like that for me. I just go into town, maybe have a meal, come back and it's done.
Also I make $250/hr so it doesn't matter to me, at all.

>>518651591
What do they have?

>>518651834
Its a rocketpod from a hind or something

>>518651795
Sounds like a copepost to me.

>>518629708 (OP)
>instead of driving a shitbox? politically
That compression looks ok, what are the specifications?

Try to do a warm reading.

>>518651897
K

>>518629708 (OP)
because many reasons, some are:

personal finance rates are less than the car loan and so you may take that money you would put in the car from the car (1-4%)
>why not from your stash?(5-14%)interest
because u can put it in a dividend stock in a tax sheltered account (16-19%) and save the difference

you may also only be able to claim a portion of the sale as a business expense, but can claim the lease payment entirely
you may want an electric car that is disposable
you may want to make someone else happy because its cheaper to pay the loan than a whore

theres more, depending on yourviews

>>518651863
Thanks, I thought they were pod racing

Used car prices are retarded right now, it makes sense if you stay in a certain budget and don't feel like wrenching.

>>518629708 (OP)
Car For Clunkers program killed used cars like that in the US. Which was the plan. Now go get a car loan goyim.

>>518629708 (OP)
Because I can afford new vehicles that is why. When something doesn't work properly I go to the dealership and make a wagie fix it. Why do shit box enthusiasts care?? The less people driving shit boxes means cheaper shit boxes. Aren't poor people always concerned about price of everything?

>>518629708 (OP)
My cars are 18 and 21 years old shitboxes.
Some chem FYIs,
You can remove rust using phosphoric acid. It converts it to Iron Phosphate, which you can simply paint over. It's what they put in "rust converters", but you can buy it for 1/10th the price. (use 10-20% solution, usually it's supplied about 80%).
Also, if you make up a solution of 100g of citric acid in 1l of water, neutralised by 63g of baking soda, you now have a sodium citrate solution which can be used to de-rust parts over night. They come out like new. It's close to neutral pH so doesn't cause any additional damage to the base metal. It only complexes the iron ions away from the surface. It's like Evaporust, but very cheap.

>>518651555
>Planned obsolescence needs to be vigorously controlled through legislation
Just call your congressman, bro.
Problem solved!

>>518645056
That doesn't even make sense
You can get oil collection pans and then just take it to the oil recycler

>>518633922
Ex rental. Ex fleet.
They buy them new, run them for 3 years, put huge milages on them, abused by customers / company drivers.
Clock them back to ~35k miles and sell them 2nd hand.

>>518653930
I assume you also afford someone else to satisfy your wife? Having such a lack of rudimentary skill that you aren't competent to even change a tire and have to pay others to compensate is nothing to be proud of.

>>518635187
Do the interior panels, and box sections also. You can get long tubes to reach inside.
Use the stuff that doesn't stink for interior panels though, not the regular stuff.

>>518654769
It's Europe though, they probably have at least 100 laws pertaining to oil changes and proper licensing and qualifications.

>>518629708 (OP)
>Why do shit box enthusiasts care?
They don't. You've posted in a slide thread.

>>518655253
>a slide thread
That implies any thread on /pol/ actually has value, which it doesn't.

>>518649090
>Idk what the inside is
It says kPa x100. That is kiloPascals x 100. That is 100 x 1000 N/m^2. For comparison, the air around (You) right now is around 101.9 kPa.

>>518655253
>You've posted in a slide thread.
What are they sliding?

>>518654769
I burn my waste oil, we're not allowed to but I do it anyway. There are inspectors who sometimes check burnheaps because dumb farmers spill the oil when they're slugging it on the heap and it stays around the edges after the fire has burned out

>>518630418
They don't have the 20k upfront. Thats why they pay for the car with a loan

>>518655476
Cheers m8

>Buy old car
>New leak appears
>New noise appears
>Worn part appears
>"It's just known for being like that bro, the electronics always go out haha"
Yeah fuck that, I've thrown way more money at old cars than buying a newer one just a couple years old so the heavy deprecation has mostly gone off it and still has some warranty along with better MPG than these old bangers.

>>518629708 (OP)
Shitboxes now demand a premium. Decades of making bad shitboxes has left the market dry. For example, buying a 5-10 year old chevy equinox is the opposite of making a good financial decision. Gone are the days where people bought over engineered jap shitboxes in the 90's and 2000's for cheap just to sell 5-10 years later for even cheaper, creating the shitbox market.

>>518639087
>Seems strange to me since Brazil is doing so well economically speaking. I always thought Argentina, having a history of protectionisms that causes cars worth 5k to be worth 10-15k, was unique.
People overestimate how poor Argentina is, just like they do with Greece.

Americans are conditioned to believe that if you don't have a nice car you are worth less as a person.
Americans fell for jewish tricks yet again and conservatives will defend jews leeching off them.

>>518655785
Buying a new car is like using public transport. You have to be some kind of leftist faggot or nigger to do it.

>>518653751
Cash from clunkers happened almost 20 years ago for pre 1990s cars that would consume enough fuel to repay for a new car within 50k miles, plus having a giant pollution problem. The problem is the new cars (2014+) being stupid. 2000-2012 is where it’s at. Another 5 years and used electric cars will start to make sense

>>518656264
To be honest i think before 2030 some shit is gonna happen.

> “in 2030 youll own nothing and be happy”

>>518656264
Quality-wise automobiles peaked somewhere between 1987 and 2005. Electric cars are much worse for the environment than ICE cars and really don't make sense for most people.

>>518629708 (OP)
The 2.4 in your pic was the best engine mitsubishi ever made. It is easily capable of 300k miles plus. I wish they put them in the 3000gts, but that was a dodge partnership so they went to shit.

>>518655165
Probably. Well have it soon enough too

>>518655591
I didn't see why not.
Brake fluid on the other hand is impossible to recycle around here. Everyone tells you just dump it in the ground or throw it in the trash.
I didn't want to do either. No clue what to do with this shit. The parts store takes engine oil for free but flat out refused brake fluid

>>518657043
You can burn brake fluid to get rid of it, it sounds bad to do but it's just glycol and is better than it finding it's way dumped on the soil. If all these ecofags out there cared so much they'd have a proper system in place to take all these things for free.

>>518657043
>No clue what to do with this shit...
So... To get rid of used brake fluid I take an empty gallon jug (usually an anti-freeze container for reasons I do not fully comprehend) and I fill it with the cheapest cat litter I can find. (The same cheap cat litter I use to clean up oil spills and such.) Then I pour the used brake fluid into the litter filled jug and I leave the top off for awhile. (Because some of the moisture evaporates.) Then, I cap it and put it in the regular trash can in the shop and pitch it into the landfill where it belongs.

Cheers!

>>518655785
>>New leak appears
Ignore and drive fag.
>>New noise appears
Ignore and drive fag.
>>Worn part appears
Ignore and drive fag.
Simple as.
t. proud user of 25 years old Korean tech

>>518656759
Why the fuck do you keep reposting this thread with the same exact pics? You've been doing this for months now.

>>518657792
That's basically what I just said.
Mine goes in antifreeze containers to because they're just there. Also they're the same yellow as the brake fluid container.

>>518657974
It raises a more serious question about Western society in general and why it is so bad. It's entire nations filled with people who don't know what or how to do anything and their first instinct when faced with a problem is to call someone else, or pay someone else, or vote for someone else. The people make a nation and if the people are weak and pitiful and stupid and useless what does that say about the country? It's not just competency with cars which acts as a good litmus test, you've got people walking around who don't even know how to use simple appliances like an oven or washing machine, they get confused about very simple instructions, the rank close to the average of people. I have to live in the same country as these people and suffer for it.

>>518656914
Depending on the market electric cars can make a lot of sense, especially as a commuter car or as a city car. 90% of the people don’t go beyond 30km in a given day and only drive beyond 100km less than 10 times per year. When that is the norm being twice as efficient and stabilizing the electric grid at the same time then electric vehicles start making sense

>>518658433
I've seen a lot of people talk about how porn has ruined their sex life. It's funny because I've never had a porn addiction and my sex life is great. I get laid at least once a week and I've never had any problems with women

>>518630610
there is no way macacos are that poor

yes more and more people are turning to older cars that arent impossible to repair due to electronic bloat and dont cost 50+k

>>518635710
>Acura brings back the Integra as a sedan

>>518630167
Why are you buying new cars then, favela monkey? I drive a 15 year old beater I paid 1200 upfront for.

>>518658655
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

>>518655785
T. Idiot that buys entire new modules and pays a commercial mechanic to do everything

Buying a prefab brake line from the dealer and paying to have it installed is $3000

A 25' roll of brake line and a flaring kit are $50

Years ago I bought a 2014 low mileage clunker from an elderly person and I liked the car and wanted to get it to 100k miles. But I got rear ended and the car ended up getting totaled off of $6700 in repairs. The cheap cars are nice but its just 1 accident away from getting totaled. There wasn't that much damage. I bought a 2024 car that was a loaner vehicle for the dealership and had 7800 miles on it. The money I got from the insurance company was not enough to buy something decent. The turn signal knob on my old car stopped working because of plastic fatigue. While I was driving I suddenly wasnt able to use the turn signal. Not a good time. I like driving something newer and I have more money now so I like the heated leather seats and steering wheel. I dont know how to work on my own car and dont have the space to work on it. Old car was fwd and now im in awd and it feels safer. Better to spend some more money and have a safer car. Old car was a death trap. Id rather spend the money and be less likely to die in a car crash

>>518629708 (OP)
Because in America, a car that just has a good engine, a radio and an air conditioner for a fair price like the Toyota Hilux Champ is literally illegal. We can't buy them. A $40,000 Tacoma is the only street legal alternative

>>518657043
Put it in a sealed bottle and throw it in the trash. Landfills have anti leak linings and stuff now, even if it leaked the other garbage would absorb it

>>518633237
you need to stand straight as well, humans instinctively place you at the bottom of the pecking order if you look hunched/afraid/timid/look at the ground

>Why are people getting carpayments instead of driving a shitbox?
Kike mind tricks played on bottom-feeder goyim.

>>518640218
cash 4 clunkers
been a few threads here about how it was used to destroy the cheap used car market.

>>518632225
truckniggers aren't people thoughbeit

>>518632460
Replaced mine for £50, but now the oil has started leaking somewhere instead. :)

>>518632446

>trash
>in Florida
say it isn't so...

>>518629708 (OP)
Almost 220,000 miles on my 2005 Nissan, and still going strong. With you man. Red Shitbox Leader, checking in. All shitbox leaders report.

>>518641057
kek

>>518633237
>>518660670
I dress and live like a hobo but when they see a gnote their attitude changes and sir is at the end of every sentence.

The neighbors stop talking shit when you break out a fully kotted out home shop and help them after they sat there watching you do absolutely no work for years not even knowing what you're sitting on.

An anon once said after working retail, when he sees someone that looks like they're homeless he just assumes they're really really rich.

I want a BYD but I can't have one because I live in the land of the free.

>>518660988
Seething Prius owner detected

Because I'm not broke and coping by pretending that I am making a concise choice to drive a shit box, because I can actually afford a new car off the lot?

>>518649360
>reddot

>>518630167
i would drive a brazilian made car. not for long because it would break down. but i would drive it

>>518636704
>Asuming wage growth + inflation + raises + time
Inflation and time are the only two parts of this that are actually happening.

>>518662146
You probably already do, all euro companies build their cars here

>>518661816
>buying new
>buying a 2025 car new

>>518631996
Everyone responsible for the cash for clunkers program that decimated the usedis car market should be rounded up and publicly executed. That's a major reason why used cars are so price gouged now.

>>518661708
nah, you're just a faggot and you're all the same. You all say shit like this and have retarded republican stickers and Billy Badass skulls on them.

>>518662392
Let's do it!

Still in my 1987 Toyota Hilux, not a shit box. The most perfect automobile ever made

>>518632417
>predatory lenders
ALL lending is predatory.

>>518629708 (OP)
There's two ways to see it.
>Drive a different shitbox every year
>Invest in a brand new reliable car
The only wrong answer is to buy used cars that aren't shitboxes (i.e.: the 2019 model with 75 000 km).

>>518662666
Complete retard

New cars rust through within 8 years

Also never buy a new car, most of the problems show up within the first few years, and it looses most of its value the second you drive it off the lot

If you get a 15 year old car that's known to regularly make it to 300,000 and it's only at 100,000 then you have a safe bet.

>>518663151
>Reliable
keyword in my post

>>518662666
>Drive a different shitbox every year
I've been driving mine since 2015 (made in 2007) because it just never dies and it's still going strong. Realistically if the engine is still in good shape all a shitbox needs is replacement of suspension parts to give it another decade or two of life. Run a couple cans of BG44K or similar PEA containing product through the gas tank to clean out the engine cylinders and injectors and it will be back to near new performance. For a shitbox parts are often surprisingly cheap given the high cost of everything else you would normally buy like groceries, bills, rent, etc..

the obvious answer is lexus. learn how to fix lexus and only buy lexus
its lexus, toyota but more autistic

>>518663365
That's one way to do it.
I've done both.
The yearly repair costs are pretty much what you would pay with a brand new car once you take away resale value and apply your initial cost to the car's lifespan.

>>518663309
Nothing new is reliable, dumbass
It's all computerized jeet shit assembled shitskins from recycled pop cans

>>518661211
296k on my ,2006 Toyota tundra. Changed the front and rear suspension when I bought it. Done brakes all around, new radiator, u joints, oil changes. Never had a single issue with the motor since getting it at 160k.

I understand paying for a nice car when you make a lot as a salary man but there's freedom in not having any jew payment and knowing how to fix everything yourself.

>>518663623
I've found repair costs to be extremely cheap, like maybe ~$2500 in total over 10 years to really overhaul everything.

>>518663885
That's sadly not the case, everything is $500 or more now except oil changes

>>518663759
>paying for a nice car when you make a lot as a salary man but there's freedom in not having any jew payment
You're talking to slaves there.

They're all drowning in debt and live paycheck to paycheck just to keep up s fake image.
They are NPCs, worker drones. Most think changing a lightbulb is technical and dangerous.

>>518629708 (OP)

In USA Mitsubishi made these 16v engines with a big turbo on it. The car was called Starion or Galant VR4 and was kino af.

>>518629708 (OP)
I paid 4500 cash for my little Fiat. It's been pretty dependable so far. I also paid 3000 cash for my little Honda bike so I even have back up transportation. If I ever buy a car on payments I am decidedly not going to trade either of them in

>>518664117
16 valve
Not 16v

16v is 16 volt
They make cars in 12v 24v and 36v

>>518632831
Headgaskets only leak when the heads are warped. At that point you might as well buy a new car

>>518662123
Oh fugg, my sympathies anon

>>518663998
I don't know where you're sourcing your parts or for what model of car but mine are always dirt cheap, then you can get other things from the auto wreckers which is even cheaper.

>>518664229
No shit it's 16 valve not 16 volt. Are you a zoomer? Valves per cylinder was a measure of higher performance in ICE engines. That's internal combustion engines, not a militarized immigration police force. Battery cars are a meme.

>>518662123
>Hurr we only make $1.67 per hour
So did we in 1930

Pao de queijo Is $6 A dozen FROZEN here
I dare you to Say what you pay for it fresh

>>518664483
You're the fucktard I just had to lecture

>>518664669
You're the fucktard lecturing on a topic you're wrong about LOL. Dunning Kruger in action. Sad!

>>518631734
That looks a lot like a late 80's Fox. Fastback wasn't offered here, though.

>>518629708 (OP)
shitboxes arent allowed in cities anymore, Jeroen.
My car is 10y old and I will have to get rid of it in 3 years

>>518664733
V means volts even in cars
Kys

>>518654921
Lol im a heavy duty diesel tech by trade. But okay.

>>518665025
That's 32 valves my dawg. Northstar is a V8 with 4v per cylinder.

before boomers ruined trucks, find a regular cab anything from the 90's

NEW THREAD

>>518665637
>>518665637
>>518665637

>>518630167
>>518630036
>>518630219

>>518659220
That's not an Integra, it's a TLX Type S

>>518666273
>Spamming/flooding
>Begging/advertising
>Off topic
>Extremely low quality

the average age of cars on the road in the US is 14.5 years old. the oldest it's ever been. people are definitely driving shitboxes more than ever.

>>518668478
Old doesn't equal shitbox
a shit box is a dilapidated rust bucket with a misfire, no bumper, and a moldy interior

>>518668571
be real. no one in the US besides enthusiasts maintain their shit. they're shitboxes. mainly altimas, mirages, older ram trucks, etc.

I've got a v8 dakota laramie that I love, shits simple, from a simpler time. I can still get up in it and have room to work without having to remove too much shit to get to at engine components.

>>518656914
Fuel injectors and OBDII for the win.

>>518634803
I like my 2001 Silverado with the 6.0 it has 300k mile but its burning some oil now, a quart every month it seems. I think an overhaul or mechanical diesel swap is due.

>>518662265

Enjoy your shitbox you poor

>>518664669
Context anon... context.