Thread 518705840

>News

https://www.cityam.com/hiking-vat-would-have-serious-negative-impact-economists-warn-reeves/

>>518705840 (OP)
She's mental

>>518705855
mental is synonymous with communist

>>518705840 (OP)
VAT is going to rape the scrounging class. Virtually everything has VAT added these days so combined with inflation it's going to hit them hard

>>518705840 (OP)
Sales taxes in American states are like 10%, would be nice

Why did chavs wear baseball caps? Are they more sensitive to light?

>>518705994
she's not a communist she's a socialist

>>518706080
>Cauldron the GCHQ nameBame reappears
Where've you been lad? Two week holiday?

what is that other claw thread all about. is it really josh's hand dox?

>>518706086
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/10/29/rachel-reeves-replaces-portrait-nigel-lawson-communist-uk/

I need to get out of this country. Sick of it

>>518705840 (OP)
say what you will about churchill, he was right about too much tax. it's not english.

>>518705949
its the other way around now

>>518706233
communist party co-founder was a socialist too, not a communist

>>518706080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8HO6hba9ZE

>>518706234
Gaza is nice this time of year, and property prices are dirt cheap too.

>>518706330
hahahahaha

>>518706295
>picrel
Wish someone would have a word with Rachel and explain this simple fact to her

>>518706351
Beaches are a bit overcrowded

>>518706351
I believe all that property has interested buyers

do you lose your virginity if you fuck trannys? get no luck with women and im tired of having no sex

>>518706234
> 1 good reason not to move to Spain

Spanish are filthy niggers

>>518706080
Everyone used to wear hats, flat caps turned into baseball caps. Much easier to put on a flat cap daily than a bowler hat. Good to wear when doing hard graft too. If anything chavs carried on traditional civilities longer than any other group. The real question is why did everyone else stop wearing hats.

>>518706360
you laugh but you obviously don't understand the difference between the two
socialist = state
communist = stateless
was the communist party a proponent of a state?
yes
so it was socialist, not communist
read marx

>>518706152
I doorstopped a turkish barbers when i was drunk and then went into the city centre and nearly got into a fight 6 times, unironically 6 times.
Few days later someone jumped in front of me in the queue at tesco and I royally kicked off at them when I was stone cold sober as well.
I told my dad i was getting radgy without any details and he told me he once battered his friend and put him in hospital for no reason when he was drunk on whisky, said he regretted it so much. I'm on a break from seethe.

>>518706614
what was he doing in a communist party then?

>>518706385
>>518706578
lmfao

>>518706614
what happens after we become stateless? will we all be on benefits and live happily ever after

>>518706578
looks like my kindroid gf

>>518706662
Free shit. They can't resist taking free shit

>>518706721
>Universe 25
be careful what you wish for

>Jeremy Clarkson: “@Nigel_Farage rarely talks about the economy and when he does, his numbers don’t add up.
>He says he wants to cut taxes and increase spending by £150billion. Huh?
>But before anyone has the chance to question his logic, he scuttles back to his safe space and starts raging about small boats.”
I remember when everyone was sucking off Clarkson during that farmer protest episode, and how he was the heckin future of the British "right"

>>518706721
No, historically any ethnicity stripped of a state has been persecuted and genocided.

who else here /team Leto/

back on keto

BUT i do have chips and onion rings in the freezer

>>518706614
brainlet take

>>518706820
>He says he wants to cut taxes and increase spending by £150 billion
>increase spending
On what exactly?

>>518706233
Jesus that looks like my ex… could be her daughter. Now that’s a scary thought, might even be my daughter for all I know.

>>518706947
your food is more depressing than the GCHQ demoralisation posts.

>>518706361
socialists of all stripes do it on purpose; gary's economics by the backdoor, gary was trying to nudge us towards taxing the wealthy, Labour are just ignoring their entire election manifesto on purpose, not sure to what end either because too much tax really does kill the incentive to work hard, you get strange things start to happen when tax is too high, especially when it's too complicated for the average person to comprehend. There's a reason all the billionaires/millionaires leave, followed by middle class disappearing and you're left with the usual trappings seen in socialist countries, national service, conscription, mandatory charity contributions and other such reorganisations of business to comply with unions & corporations, small business and personal property begin to look optional.

>>518706662
larping
present day and historic communists are all larpers selling a bill of goods
because anyone who reads marx knows communism isn't political and isn't something that comes out of politics
its a macro-economic phenomenon that manifests automatically at a certain point in time, out of capitalism
anyone claiming to be communist in the present socio-economic state of things just wants to centralise everything so they can gain power for themselves
which is exactly what history shows
but, thats the direct antithesis of communism
because communism is anti-centralisation

>>518706721
ironically, no, nothing would change except incentives

>>518706947
You need more fiber, it soaks up the cholesterol.

>>518707017
don't give a flying fuck, lost 8 stone this year

>>518706729
yes but didn't he want to bring in communism as the name of the party suggests?
>>518706986
she's american

>>518706820
Clarkson's always been a LARPing wet wipe.

>>518707064
sounds like you needed to

>>518706950
your counter-argument?

>>518707049
cholestrols good for the brain

>>518707115
indeed. it's nice gliding down the road rather than stumbling around being a sweaty mess

>>518706980
Immigration only ‘works’ economically with zero socialist security nets. No r nhs, bennies, etc none of it. You cannot compare Europe and America even today let alone last century.

help me understand commies, so after being stateless how are things governed, order maintained, does it remove the illusion of working for a corporate machine and affirms it by giving us roles to play?

>>518707172
Yeah, you done me. I conceed.
Am still sweating in Autumn

>>518706489
You already lost yours when your grandad slung it up your guffer gobbo ahahaha

>>518707067
Oh is that the chick dating the black fella. I remember mittens posting her loads a few years ago. Used to say she looked like me ex too.

>>518707252
ok but first, a question
do you agree that most issues today are downstream of scarcity?

>>518706838
This
Without a territory you can maybe live as jews or Roma at best and they only existed due to Christians morality and compassion.

Try living like that it places ruled by niggers and see how long you'd last.

>>518707142
Not all of it

>>518707254
anyone can lose loads of pudding, just gotta cut out the carbs laddie.

make a nice meat stew with onions, broccoli, spinach and cabbage, plenty of veg stock. you won't even know you're eating veg it's so nice.

>>518707142
precursor for testosterone
that's why i only eat maccies mozarella sticks

>>518707313
i think he's mexican
https://xcancel.com/Carmaxlla

>>518707254
It’s a pretty warm autumn tbf
t. 22 stone 6’2” unit

>>518706614
>communism
a belief in a society with no hierarchy, usually meaning everyone earns about the same
>socialism
a specific implementation of a state where only cooperatives are legally allowed, no shares may be sold on a market

all socialist states are in practice communist, while communism can even exist (for a while at least) under capitalism if government just taxes and redistributes everything

I hope your post isn't representative of the fabled ashkenazi high verbal IQ

>>518706820
Clarkson is a Tory. Why is anyone surprised he backs the Tories? No other right of centre party will ever be allowed a sniff of power in the UK.

>>518707319
yes i think so

>>518707416
Yeah that’s her, he was definitely black a few years ago when she was a small channel and mittens found her. Not been on Twitter in ages so not kept up with her character arc.

>>518707247
Also eurocunts lick unlimited govt asshole

Americans do not

>looking for the exit
Does Rachel think people aren't weighing up their options to gtfo

>>518707459
oh my bad it's some vpnigger

>>518706234
>Spanish culture

Afternoon naps and torturing animals

VAT is already the biggest unspoken about rape of UK peoples wealth. A literal tax on existence 20 per cent to the government in return for them doing absolutely nothing. People dare not mention this, in the bizarre hope its not really happening.
Fucking grabbler theft.
Biggest crooks ever.

O thou who crav’st thy country’s former state,
Forbear thy clamour, cease thy vain debate!
Thou yearn’st to claim what once was in hand,
Yet nay, good sir, that prize thou shan't land

>William Vylan

>>518707368
> broccoli

>>518707471
>Tories
>right of centre
hearty kek

LARPING WITH MYSE-ELF
OH OH
LARPING WITH MYSE-ELF
WITH MY PROXY COLLECTION
AND A ONE INCH ERECTION
IVE BEEN LARPING WITH MYSE-ELF

>>518706086
No, she isn’t. She’s a neolib just like every chancellor we’ve had for nearly half a century.

>>518707524
Animal torturing is optional. Quite like an afternoon nap tbqhwy

>>518707247
Truth. the reason the Mayflower expedition was disastrous the start with and a success years later was because they cast away the 'socialist' elements in favour of everyone pulling together to build a better place, rather than the governor taxing everyone and being miserly in distributing all the supplies, instead even the governor eventually was forced to start farming, hunting and fishing - putting aside all differences and helping by working together, rather than this current wealth distribution bullshit that currently exists here, it'll lead to starving eventually when enough woggies overflow the island and too much work is levied on too few workers.

>>518707540
VAT is the only tax the poor pay even though they're benefiting from a gargantuan welfare state

>>518707540
A 10% duty on tea was enough to form the USA.

>>518706820
>>518707471
There is an economic theory that by reducing taxes you increase revenue as more business gets done. Can’t remember who came up with it but I saw him on YouTube the other day talking to some yank politician or something.

>>518707471
He's not only a Tory, he's a die-hard Remainer as is James May. Clarkson is also neighbours with David Cameron, I don't know if they still do but they used to have dinners together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7oOJieTT4k

>>518707540
27.5% VAT is being floated "to bring us in line with Europe" which will apparently make it easier to sell into Europe. However the fuck those mental gymnastics work
It's going to crucify the scrounging class

>>518707679
Isn't it reduce taxes and more tax actually ends up getting paid
laffer curve

>>518707540
No one really cared when it was low and the scroungers feeding off it were relatively few in number and at least culturally compatible.
We could easily support an obscene number of fat women with fibromyalgia in this country until the sun engulfs us.

It's only now its onerous because its blatantly being used to battery farm infinite bomalians in four star hotels.

>>518707459
>a belief in a society with no hierarchy, usually meaning everyone earns about the same
lmao no
you've never read marx
first of all, hierarchy is part of the human condition, there's no getting away from it
so there will always be a hierarchy
even in a communist society you'll always have some people more able than others, and thats a good thing
marx wasn't against hierarchy as a concept, just against the class system whereby the rich exploited the poor and withheld resources in order to control them
secondly, nobody "earns" anything in the capitalist sense in a communist society
base needs are met, so incentives change
also, marx was very explicit about the fact that communism cannot occur until post-scarcity is reached
we've never reached that point before and we won't until AI + automation reach their peak
not that he knew this specifically, but he knew the principle, that ontologically, communism requires post scarcity
because capitalism only makes sense when resources are scarce
because the point of capitalism is growth
and the point of communism is redistribution
but if you're in a state of growth, based on necessity because of scarcity
how can you fairly redistribute? you can't, its a zero sum game
communism is incompatible with all systems based on scarcity
which is why all socialism and communism end up in social cataclysm
and they'll continue to until we reach post scarcity

>>518707558
Your iambic pentameter is flawless.

>>518707679
Think about it simpler than that, what money you don't tax from someone, is money they can spend on something else. If I wasn't taxed 20% VAT, I could use that to buy a second freddo bar etc. but apparently... gary's economics could redistribute that 20% tax to everyone's pockets and make everyone *sniff* rich *sniff*.

>>518707679
Laffer curve?

>>518707459
secondly
socialism is simply a managed economy, managed by the state
thats it

>>518707487
ok so then you agree that most rules in society, including laws are based on the fact that we're living in a state of scarcity?

>>518707780
No it aint
'what once was in hand'
'that prize thou shan't land'

>>518707599
do you live in reverso world mate?
neolibs are notoriously low tax + low spending
socialists tax high and spend even higher
which is exactly what she's doing

>>518707679
It's not a theory, it's a proven practice. I lived in Hong Kong when they had a flat rate tax of 15% and they had while I was living there for 7 years, a surplus every single year. To the extent I had free electricity and they would put on a beautiful New Year fireworks display. Yes there are other factors involved but a low tax rate absolutely does contribute to a healthy and friendly business environment and yes you do get more revenue by proving you are welcoming of business.

>>518707899
Harsh, but fair

>>518707618
Yeah socialist policies and ‘free stuff’ is your reward and for after you blood and soil to establish a community. If you then just open the gates and let anyone it it will all collapse. Especially the once you change the culture that founded that community. Especially x2 if the people you are inviting in haven’t been through similar genetic bottlenecks. The genetic bottleneck is probably a key factor here as genetic potential dictates everything about how a person interacts with the environment.

>>518707769
nah what I gave you were the most commonly accepted meanings for those two words, you're just rambling about your preferred implementation of communism while also denying those definitions

also Marx didn't even write that much about communism beyond the manifesto, his work is almost entirely criticizing capitalism not providing actual solutions, because there are none that actually outperform being able to sell shares of your company on a market

based slag

>>518707754
Ohh yeah that’s the one! Smart arse but ty, that was bugging me.

>>518707806
looks something like this I think

>>518707806
Yep yep
>>518707790
That thing la

>>518707841
>socialism is simply a managed economy, managed by the state
also wrong, that's just one of the possible implementations

>>518708036
>I've got your laugher curve right here
>BOSH

>>518707780
What do you think of my old English version

https://voca.ro/17RpQzYTHaOp

>>518707695
When Ellen Degeneres moved to the Cotswolds she headed straight for his pub

>>518708013
>psychopaths threatening to not procreate
Small mercy.

>>518707790
>Think about it simpler than that, what money you don't tax from someone, is money they can spend on something else
That isn't how it works in reality as we can see with the wealthy who horde wealth rather than spend it.

God I fucking hate r/Malelivingspace so much.
>18M First place, how'd I do guys
>NYC penthouse apartment where everything is grey, silver, high end mid century modern furniture that looks like some high end showroom.
It's the same with so much of r/London as well, which really should be named r/6figuresbutpretendtobepoor

>>518708011
>nah what I gave you were the most commonly accepted meanings for those two words, you're just rambling about your preferred implementation of communism while also denying those definitions
ok but thats not a rebuttal so I'll accept your concession on that

>also Marx didn't even write that much about communism beyond the manifesto, his work is almost entirely criticizing capitalism not providing actual solutions, because there are none that actually outperform being able to sell shares of your company on a market
this was almost a rebuttal but you're missing the overall context which is that marx's entire work was first and foremost a diagnostic critique of capitalism, and then a praxiological formation of the natural evolution from capitalism to the next phase of socio-economic development, which he dubbed communism. he wasn't trying to propose solutions at all, he wasn't forming ideology, he was a diagnostician providing critique and praxiology

>>518708200
Economist Jesus fixes this in parable of the talents

>>518708131
Over my head.
Nice baritone though.

>>518705840 (OP)
I misunderstood the headline. I was gonna say, you fuckers have to pay a tax to go hiking?

>>518706361
You can have lower taxes, sure. Just don’t moan when your public services are non-functional or non-existent. Also, someone has to pay for the upkeep of the illegal migrants the Tories and Labour brought in.

>>518708200
To be fair it's very hard to buy a bonus mars bar with 1/6000th of a tractor or whatever other mad thing counts as wealth in the eyes of envious rodents.
You'd rather have the functional tractor.

>>518708221
wouldn't even get out of bed for 6 figures. imagine actually contributing to boatwog luxury.

>>518708221
Go back to reddıt you sand nigger rapist enabler

>>518708118
all of which boil down to one thing
centralised control and regulation
doesn't matter how you look at it, thats what it is
the dynamic is always the same
you have a centralised authority, whether it be a state, a co-op, or whatever else, and that centralised authority decides how the economy functions
communism is the opposite, its decentralised and not managed
because it can afford to be
when you're in a state of scarcity you have to manaage things
when you're in a state of post scarcity, you don't have to manage things
or you need minimal management, depending on the setup

>>518708200
>muh wealthy horde it instead of spending it
wealth unused might as well not exist, I totally agree with that, but you have to establish a good reason to tax that money and unless you can see a war that we're currently involved in I don't blame any of the billionaires or millionaires fleeing the country to continue being rich, being rich is a good thing, being taxed by socialists to buy migrants favours is not what I want to see their money spent on.

You can FEEL the hostility in the air, it's fucking tangible at this point.

>>518708226
>ok but thats not a rebuttal so I'll accept your concession on that
it is a rebuttal, what you said is wrong by definition
>and then a praxiological formation of the natural evolution from capitalism to the next phase of socio-economic development
and every prediction he made about that evolution was wrong, i.e. wages in industrial England didn't budge until the country ran out of reserve rural supply of labor moving to the cities, at which point wages actually increased dramatically
>which he dubbed communism
nah he said in Kapital that state was "late stage capitalism" you faggot gorilla nigger commies don't even know your "theory" jej

good news lads
I'll be getting in bed soon

>>518708147
Yeah I learned a long time ago to be careful of these celebrities and their personas they put out to the world compared to their real personality. I still think Clarkson is ok, but I don't agree with him politically on the EU, and he did say last year that he knows a lot of farmers and people he works with who are very concerned about immigration and he has been vocal about how much Sadiq-head khan has ruined London.
So he's got some good points, plus I did enjoy Top Gear and can still rewatch the special episodes over and over again.

Yet all of that said, it's definitely something to be wary of if you admire these on screen personalities that they are doing just that, putting out an agreeable persona to a target audience and it's not who they really are.

>>518708200
>Horde wealth
He thinks people with money put it in a big room and roll around in it every now and again.
Bless him

>>518708123
Is it beer o’clock already? Alright time to get up. Think I’ll have a cheeky snakebite for breckie, with ribena so it’s healthy.

>>518708397
wrong again, socialism is about "workers owning the means of production" and you can have many permutations on the concept, from state socialism with state owned companies to decentralized cooperatives

>>518708317
Don’t give them ideas. Walking is one of the only free things left. That and sea fishing/foraging surprisingly.

What were old Co-operatives?
Were they commie or nah?

>>518708200
most of that wealth isn't hoarded in unproductive assets like real estate, it's in productive assets like stock and bonds
and your argument only makes a strong case for a land value tax, which most people ought to support in return for abolishing income tax

>>518708423
I saw a Paki lad yesterday, gave him the ol' death stare and made him feeling uncomfortable, he saw me later that same day and turned to walk in the opposite direction.

What did rRupert say about immigrants? Make the environment hostile so they self-deport. I'm doing my part.

>>518708221
The only good thing about floor to ceiling windows is bonfire night fireworks view
and perving
but they don't have guy fawkes and they don't have jimmy saville so they might as well have a cruise ship window

>>518708333
You can start by stopping the 22 million claiming benefits and motability without affecting any services

>>518708715
*feel

>>518708226
Shut up you paedo proxy nonce.

Co-Op bank
Co-Op funerals
Co-Op shops
Used to have building societies rather than banks too. The capitalist model had more socialist elements in the past.

>>518708792
Co-Op nazi zombies

>>518708397
https://hst.sh/pekufasoyu.apache
here is 327 kiwi/farms accounts
since u got banned
u might as well keep going and keep ban evading.
honestly surprised how insecure kiwi/farms is
i dont understand why they need 20k a year for this website
the security sucks

Wales is poorer than Poland

>>518708792
it had more socialist elements but was also much less communist in a very real sense, our governments nowadays are gigantic redistribution machines in terms of government spending, redistribution and size

>>518708285
Thanks. Here's the poem and translation

>ich herde thou woldest thine londe agayn
>stille thee tonge, by goddess Payne
>ich herde thou creest for thee contrey
>nay forsoth, that may nat be

>I heard you want your country back
>shut the fuck up
>I heard you want your country back
>nuh-uh, you can't have that

>t. Bobfric Vyllæn

>>518708594
I didn't say that at all. You obviously don't know what wealthy people do with their money. You're resorting to straw man arguments because you don't actually know what you're talking about.
>>518708707
>most of that wealth isn't hoarded in unproductive assets like real estate, it's in productive assets like stock and bonds
Completely untrue and I wasn't making any argument. I was merely pointing out that people don't necessarily spend and recirculate money if you cut their taxes.

>>518708919
Nowadays we are just planned economies with market interventions.

Hot choccy loicence, NOW!!

>>518708466
>good news lads
>I'll be getting in bed soon
GN,
Sleep tight, Jew!

>>518708754
You’ll bankrupt spoons, Tescos and Greggs overnight

Found one of the Lefties who posts here in support of Open Borders.
https://x.com/I_Am_Yain

>>518708682
>Hiking loicence
You could fake a news story about this and most of the population wouldn't be at all surprised

>>518708908
Kek, and you just know what Reeves will do to catch up. we're going to all be taxed another 5% on something, Starmer will print a couple £100bn from his sofa and somehow Wales population will increase 500,000, the speed on roads will go down to 10mph and the project is expected to be completed by 2050 or some other absurd time limit.

>>518708908
They've started mass immigration as well, they're behind us and will end up like us.

>>518708908
Dam I could probably get some cheap white pussy in that area then, could get myself a white wife

>>518708908
More Muslims in the UK than Welsh too.

>>518708908
Wakes is nicer than Poland and it isn’t full of polish

>>518708908
That's incredibly unprofound, comparing the entire of Poland to West Wales, which has always been a backwater.

>>518708979
>He actually said that
>Didn't say that me I didn't
He's getting cranky. Must be nap time

>>518708979
>Completely untrue
wrong again faggot, breakdown Musk's wealth by asset class, how much of that is in stock and bonds vs real estate, art, and gold/bitcoin?
you are retarded
>>518708981
the regulatory apparatus is much bigger nowadays but the economy is also more complex, I'm not sure how to answer that
what is a fact, though, is that we are waaaaaaay more communist nowadays in terms of trying to suppress difference in outcomes than in the past since all of Europe is basically a welfare state at this point

>>518709025
>every term for non Whites becomes a slur, lefttards puzzled
lol

>>518708457
>it is a rebuttal, what you said is wrong by definition
its not a rebuttal because all you did was deny the validity without supporting your denial with a counter-argument or claim
>and every prediction he made about that evolution was wrong, i.e. wages in industrial England didn't budge until the country ran out of reserve rural supply of labor moving to the cities, at which point wages actually increased dramatically
lmao marx never gave an exact timeline. you can't say he was wrong because its not happened yet when he never gave a timeline but instead gave a conceptual breakdown of the evolutionary process between capitalism and communism. which you could only track if you understood that evolution. and we're not even close to the end of that transition
>nah he said in Kapital that state was "late stage capitalism" you faggot gorilla nigger commies don't even know your "theory" jej
and he was right, but late stage doesn't mean you jump right to the end, late-stage also has its own stages it has to move through before the transition is complete

>>518708606
>wrong again, socialism is about "workers owning the means of production" and you can have many permutations on the concept, from state socialism with state owned companies to decentralized cooperatives
yes and the most common iteration of that "public ownership of production" is through the state which purports to represent the workers through safeguarding and regulation. but in actuality serves the interests of the elites, and always will until we reach post scarcity

>>518709170
>what is a fact, though, is that we are waaaaaaay more communist nowadays in terms of trying to suppress difference in outcomes than in the past since all of Europe is basically a welfare state at this point
Couldnt agree more. Capitalism is great if you stick to the rules.
There is a lot of pain to come.

>>518709050
yeah and that M4 that goes all the way through south wales will be fucked

>>518707679
the reality is that no one is worse that gov.uk when it comes to spaffing money, the more money gov.uk the more they spaff it, even crackheads get better value to the pound than gov.uk

>>518709025
Isn't /pol/tard kind of derogatory? Retard is a no-no word now.

>>518707127
The establishment of a dictatorship of the proleteriat was a key step in the dialectic towards the withering away of the state into 'stateless' communism. You don't know what you're talking about and your imagined distinction is meaningless.

>>518709119
>Welsh
>White

>>518708890
corrrr nice one leto mate
ngl though I only popped in to drop the deets on noncedan
might have a dabble if I have anything to add or reiterate
cheers

>>518709292
You some kind of nigtard?

Mad how some parts of this country look like the Soviet Union

>>518709302
nothing I said contradicted that
nice try though

>>518709320
Are you trying to say Tom Jones is non-white?

deform uk

>>518709258
>its not a rebuttal because all you did was deny the validity without supporting your denial with a counter-argument or claim
what you asserted without evidence I dismissed in kind
>lmao marx never gave an exact timeline. you can't say he was wrong because its not happened yet when he never gave a timeline but instead gave a conceptual breakdown of the evolutionary process between capitalism and communism. which you could only track if you understood that evolution. and we're not even close to the end of that transition
yeah isn't that just great? he made a bunch of predictions and when they all turned out in the exact opposite direction you go "well akshually m-m-m-marx didn't give a deadline!!111" lol
>yes and the most common iteration of that
except you were implying state socialism was the only valid iteration of that, which I countered with coops
do try to keep up you faggot nigger commie

>>518709403
You're very stupid

>>518709392
the labour areas do yes

>>518709392
USSR wasn't full of nigerians and bangladeshis.

>>518709431
NGO-funded forced meme just like those JD Vance edits.

>>518709451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBjMRvOB5M

>>518707841
everything is scarce, because human greed is insatiable. another important thing is humans are irrational, we arent robots to think alike

>>518709412
das rite

>>518709328
>corrrr nice one leto mate
Absolute state of you

>>518709328
all the accounts are auto emailed verified as well

>>518709259
capitalism is great, turns out it's our current version of democracy where 1 billion nigerians can become citizens after living here for 5 years, and boomers and poorfags can vote for infinity welfare, that's destroying the West

women shouldn't vote, net tax recipients shouldn't vote and non-Whites shouldn't be able to become citizens

>>518709538
"I don't think Burnham would say that"

>>518708986
This shit just slides under normies nose and they think its how its always been. You'd be hardpressed to meet someone who can remember when you were able to smoke indoors.

Bridget Phillipson caught out in another flight of fancy.

>>518707252
>help me understand commies
Commies believe they will be the ones running institutions rather than being the slaves in a field. Very few working class people are communist. It's the sort of people who don't do work with their hands. I've met 2 people in my line of work who attended University and both were gym bros. Weaklings are communist, grafters don't give a shit and want to make money.

>>518705855

The economy is on its knees as the monthly figures will reveal. The number of people paying their mortgage on their credit card is one stat the industry tracks quite closely and it is at new highs. At the same time the amount of income people are saving and not spending is also at a high. The buying public is absolutely locked down for a nuclear winter, thereby making such a scenario even more likely.

The one thing they needed to do was stimulate growth. Not houses for boatniggers, not state recognition for dirty arab terrorists, not pay rises for train drivers, growth in the economy.

you can only do that by either slashing taxes or making big investments, and to a much lesser extent by cutting red tape. She hasnt done any of those things, quite the opposite in fact.

It's going to get very bad now.

>>518709671
>Bridget Phillipson
another communist and fabian just like reeves

>>518709628
>You'd be hardpressed to meet someone who can remember when you were able to smoke indoors.
I member, and a pound or under a pint too. Go out with 20 quid, pack of 15g amber leaf for 1.99 then find your table in the pub and sit there drinking 15 pints while smoking your rollies. Nice kebab and chips on the way home for a couple of quid plus your bus fair home with your last quid. Minimum wage was like 4.50 too so you could do all that after working 5 hours part time somewhere kek.

>>518709779
the welfare state is coming to an end, all at once across the West

>>518709439
no, you're just inferring things onto what I'm saying so you can prop yourself up as superior, which is peak midwit behaviour. you imagine what I'm saying in your own head instead of verifying first, convince yourself thats the reality and run with it as if thats the case, argue a point that isn't relevent and then jump back in your egocentric shell when rebuffed. learn how to debate

>>518709437
>what you asserted without evidence I dismissed in kind
the evidence is in the logic, you couldn't argue against the logic so you dismissed it and hoped I'd move on
>yeah isn't that just great? he made a bunch of predictions and when they all turned out in the exact opposite direction you go "well akshually m-m-m-marx didn't give a deadline!!111" lol
yeah thats how it works? he made a bunch of predictions, but didn't date them, and when you look at his predictions and where we are in history you can plainly see we're nowhere near the time where any of his predictions are even remotely likely to come true
its like if you're waiting for a bus and you don't have the time its due
and every 2 mins you're saying to yourself
>ffs bus is late
how do you know the bus is late if you don't have the timetable or when its due?
fucking mong lmao
thats you with communism
he never gave us a timetable
he made diagnostic predictions of systemic evolution, it would be logically fallacious to even try to predict in accordance with a specific timeline based on all of the variables involved
he elaborated upon general principles, not timelines or prophecy
retard
>except you were implying state socialism was the only valid iteration of that, which I countered with coops
no I didn't you stupid cunt
I was making the argument that they're all fundamentally, ontologically the same thing
it doesn't matter what label you use
all centralisation is socialism

>>518709810
Why do they all have this hairstyle?

>>518709596
Cunt needs putting down, seriously.

>>518709887
"I think it looks proper smart mate!"

Rejoice, friends
Big government is over
From now on, instead of community
You will be left
In the marketplace
To fend for yourselves
Claw for yourselves
Stab for yourselves
Guard for yourselves
What little money, savings, dignity, and shelter you have left
After your jobs are downsized
And exported to Mexico
Tennis shoes made by slaves in camps in Indonesia
Computer jobs sent across the ocean to Indonesia
You will be next unless you bow down, lick our boots
And throw your benefits away
Your raises away
And this is all you have to look forward to
Forever and ever and ever
As more and more benefits are slashed
No more tax-and-spend welfare state
A windfall from tax cuts for the rich
As more and more people
Out in the cold on the street
Begging for money
And when that doesn't work
Robbing people
Carjacking
Home invasion
Everyone taught
That life is so cheap
There's nothing to look forward to
Except what you can score
(And smoke in a pipe)
Ending welfare as we know it
Means third world crime as we know it
So why is it
All these young people today
Misbehave

>>518709851
Thicky goblin can't even understand the theory he loves to waffle about. You really are a dummy

>>518709605
nice one, I might make a thread on him soon

>>518709779
Immigration won't stop yet, 10,000 people from that chagos island thing are eligible to come here

>>518709851
nigger I'm not reading all that, you're dumb as shit and there is no value engaging with you, any third party reading our convo has already made up their mind as to who is right

>>518710047
A 1% increase?
Oh no.

>>518709931
Could get a job as a justeat delivery driver in runcorn and wait until he makes his next order

>>518706233
that's a jew

>>518710040
haha you're that same mong who was seething because of the answer I gave about plato's cave and the art of war

>>518710060
I accept your concession
I want truth mate, nothing more nothing less
if you are right, and you can't show that you're right in a way that I will accept
thats on you, because i'm more than receptive to being wrong and being taught new things
you just have nothing to teach me

>>518709671
Why are we wasting time allegedly brokering these irrelevant "peace" deals?

>>518710137
No proof he lives there, cunt lies about everything.

I want Diane abbot to be the leader of the opposition of a reform government, Think of the laughs.

>>518710176
proofs?

>>518710195
You want truth.
The truth is you're a nonce with narcissistic personality disorder. How's that?

>gobbo tonguing letos arse
bit noncey

>>518710269
turn your monitor on

>>518710210
We're not, she's lying through her back teeth about having any involvement, that's the point the Ambassador is making that Labour had nothing to do with peace negotiations.


Anyway, I'm watching this and although the lad looks a bit weird he makes a very good point if you watch the video, highly recommend. Different topic entirely more about why is what we create in our country now so ugly compared to previous generations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYxrowovts

>>518710195
Wrong again dum dum

mad how brinnies have more of an issue with me getting on with leto than they do with noncedan spamming csam

>>518706295
Don’t need prosperity, just need everyone to be more or less equal and then go from there

>>518709671
what peace deal was she part of, my appeasing the phull sapport to palicuck saar gang and recognizing their country? lol

>>518710346
He's not making new points, these are all 10 year old takes at this point. People know the problems with the country, they want action, not them to be pointed out over and over. Britmoney already covered this anyway...I'm so fucking tired of this world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5aJ-57_YsQ

>>518709605
if you're really him why are you protecting bogshrimp on your site?

>>518710470
I know it's nothing new, Roger Scruton used to say the same things when he was alive but it's refreshing to me to hear a younger lad noticing and hearing his perspective.

>>518710448
only 6 points? Surely that is fraud and a number of other offences too.

>>518710403
why do you need everyone to be more or less equal when our biological realities are vastly different? should everyone be able to play in the NBA as well?

what we need is a society where every man is getting a good deal out of the social contract, and in the West young white collar men are being fucked in every direction by everyone else

>>518710215
The UK relies on its prestige and "soft power" when attempting to gain international advantage.

The sign that we've squandered this capital will be when formerly benign states begin snubbing us and offering unfair, even rapacious deals and we accept them.

whoops wrong link
>>518710210
The UK relies on its prestige and "soft power" when attempting to gain international advantage.

The sign that we've squandered this capital will be when formerly benign states begin snubbing us and offering unfair, even rapacious deals and we accept them.

>>518706234
and brown nipples

>>518710354
thats exactly what he'd say

>>518710501
I doubt he is lad
he's already seen my posts about the nonce on kf
I've already mentioned noncedan to him too
and he gave me those accounts after the fact
also he popped in the other day to try and tell noncedan that it wasn't me spamming the csam because he can see my logs, when the nonce was having a massive melty about me
that was last night actually
so if anything it looks like he's trying to put distance between himself and the beef nugget butcher

>>518710544
I presume no insurance at the very least. Any insurance he had would be invalid without driving instructor loicence
Two queer policing?

Fix you bots GCHQ

>>518707679
Yes basically cutting taxes stimulates the economy which increases growth which leads to more tax being collected. Rachel is suffocating the economy with more and more tax rises which basically puts it into reverse which hurts tax revenues which leads to a bigger black hole and more tax rises. You literally cannot tax your way to growth the chancellor is a moron.

She needs to make hard choices, for starters cutting the welfare bill there's already way too many retards on britpol that collect autism bux and shitpost all day that should be in work instead, I'd start with cutting their bennies.

might have a wank before bed
to fully grown adult women (white)

I wish I woke up with the mask. I could violently kill all these brownos and tratiors to an extreme reality wouldnt let me, while giving a good laugh to the general public as I humilate the police force...ahh if only.

>>518706234
Guess who else is getting out of the country?
>“I’ve booked my flight, by the end of the year I’ll be moving to Mogadishu, Somalia, The west doesn’t want us here anymore and it’s cool”
https://x.com/JamesPGoddard90/status/1977383233906966763

Watched Eden Lake last night. The reviews made me think it was some kind of brutal, blackpilled horror movie but really it was a bit of hyperbolic social commentary about the state of ryouth. It wasn't even that deep, as it might have been in a Ballardian kind of way. Really disappointing, though glad it wasn't more graphic.

>>518710791
I'm tethered on a phone fucks sake.

The economy won't collapse, the UK's economy is too developed to collapse. We could probably support another 5 million Somalis

>>518710869
Why are they all so ugly and fat?

>>518710912
Watching you govt asshole lickers die by the millions in ww3 will be fun

>>518710942
chicken shops on every corner ennit

>>518711053
Dya fancy a takeawayyyy?!

>>518710869
>gunna meet sum drill rappas and criminals on da run innit
He thinks they're going to send his bennies to him. Scrub that, they probably will

Explain yourself, Scotland

>>518711105
Is that bonny blue and lenny henry?

it's good to recycle laaaa x
>>518705764
>>518705764

>>518710987
I'm just dropping blackpills

>>518706947
I used to eat salami quite often but then I realised it's pretty bad for you. Too much cured and processed meat gives you cancer apparently.

Diane Abbott's stubble-covered arse. Texture like sandpaper.

>>518711226
Good lad. Just stick to healthy food like cricket protein paste.

>>518710501
why not?

>>518706980
>>518707247
Business idea: maybe everyone should have a chance to get a decent job no matter where they're from (Europe, Africa, Asia, etc). As long as people in the UK abide by British laws then maybe it's okay if they come here.

>>518710767
>>518711361
fucking done you there

Mad how a former German chancellor now works for gazprom

>>518711420
Shut up Occunonce

>>518711447
no he hasn't you mong

why don't governments just do what people want

>>518711522
yes he has "leto mate" you sad little cunt, he's shown you, bogshrimp and this genuine zoophile paedophile are all in the same circlejerk lmfao
absolute fucking state of you lad

>>518711547
Because some people want infinity Somalis, some people want a few and some people want none so we all have to compromise and have a lot of Somalis

I'm a paedophile i am I post CP in /uhg/ get caught, have a melty, and blame others for it

just booked next year's Cyprus holiday with mum for next June. 28 days in protaras, sea view room 1300 quid.

that's what i get in bennies each month so it's basically free. fuck bringing the bank card with me, always bring your platinum barclays credit card so hmrc can't see it all.

>>518711604
are they yeah
is that the only scenario you can come up?
fucking brainlet
you just believe what you want to be true
meanwhile I consider possibilities and don't decide until I see proof either way
and right now, regardless of him saying what he just said
what I've seen thus far suggests they have some kind of relationship but its not as cut and dry as being part of the same group
and him saying what he just said doesn't take away from that
go put up your wallpaper you freak

>>518711420
Counter-offer: you get a one-way plane ticket to the Democratic Republic of the Congo

>>518711459
That's not an argument. Anyway I don't think it's productive to get sucked into Faragist politics where people get disliked based on their culture or country of origin etc. Maybe we should focus on bread-and-butter issues that matter to everybody of all ethnicities (good jobs, decent pay). And we should have basic standards for treating humans fairly and humanely. That's why I'm sceptical about this idea of Britain leaving the ECHR.

im a paedophile and i think posting CP is dead funny me

>>518711890
That's nice.
I'm for deporting criminal migrants and executing violent ones, which the ECHR prevents.

>>518711547
Money
What the people want isn't what the corporate donors wants. It's why the Tories went counter to the people for the entire 14 years they were in Office because their foreign donors threatened to pull funding if they slow down immigration for example(cheap labour for their businesses).

proper disgusting paedo nonce me i am
get caught posting CP and ill just blame some polish legend i created so the brinnies won't think im a disgusting paedo from runcorn

>>518711604
so what?
they have gold pass, they give me money idc nigga ^^

>>518709887
even worse when they have it undercut at the back

>>518712121
>>518711447
>>518711604
he's fucking done you there

>>518711916
Called starmer. Enjoy getting donged in the bong tower.

>>518711879
Why do you propose this

>>518711977
Maybe our criminal justice system should punish anybody who breaks the law, whether they're an immigrant or not.

>>518712179
https://hst.sh/ziqewukaqe.apache
974 kiw/ifarms accounts
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Value Added Tony
VAT

>>518711708
i assume the people that want infinite somalis don't live in areas that would encounter them

>>518712210
good cos im a paedophile and i deserve jail i do.
im a paedo from runcorn

>>518710403
>Don’t need prosperity, just need everyone to be more or less equal and then go from there

You're not equal, tranny

>>518712215
Yes but were obligated to house domestic criminals here at cost. We shouldn't be obligated to do this for foreign nationals.
Also I realize I didn't imply this but I think ethnically british violent criminals should be executed too.

It used to be the case that we'd slay 1% of the male population every year for violent crimes.
As it stands now, not only do we have a tremendous backlog to clear, quality of evidence is much much greater.

>Crynonce was right all along
Didn't see that coming.

Josh IS leto

if you think he just showed up here and that it's not Jnigger, you're an idiot.

>>518712397
There is a reason the lotus eaters @ danks lot etc don't have females employed there. Nino was right about women.

>>518712371
>>518712179
>>518712079
>>518711916
>>518711858
>>518711522

anon, how do you manage to post under so many different flags?

what's the galaxy brain work-around to this?

>>518712228
nice one laaaaaa

>>518712536
Who cares, and who cares what trannyfarms gets up to. Just wish they would all fuck off tbqh. especially the brinnies from /lgbtq/ who never fucked off after the raids years ago.

I let out a massive fart in the middle of the street this morning as I was waiting for a bit thinking no one was around cause it was 5am and realised someone was across the street and they definitely would of heard it, it was a proper slappy sounding fart too. So embarrassing

>>518712602
Literally just ignore it. The business are going to be too busy to notice if it's your first hot chocolate or not, and they're not going to care.

can't wait to go back to cyprus

>>518712602
>free refill denied
but you can still purchase three mugs of hot choc to your table anyway, so fuck knows what they're thinking. possibly part of the digital ID in combination with genomics to 'predict' disease in people before it happens, and if they find out you drink too much hot choc? they're going to hit you with the pre-diabetes diagnosis and start you off on a diabetic diet and monitor your health closely, possibly even start you on diabetic medicine pre-emptively even if you had no risk whatsoever. it's fucking bonkers retard brain.

>>518712982
Found a beer stein from cyprus at the tip shop yesterday. Got it for me mum because she loves it there (not as much as greece mind) and likes beer steins.

>>518713070
It's just the ghost of the nanny state being puppeteered to pinch nhs pennies.
Same vein as forced ozempic for bennies claimants, remember that?

>>518707679
raising tax gives the gov more money - it's short term growth but ends up increasing inflation making things worse for everyone.
lowering tax gives the people more money, and thus allows the economy to grow long term.
the gov is greedy. they care more about filling their coffers in the short term rather than growing the economy long term. it enables them to present themselves as economically effective during their short tenure while fucking over the entire country in the long term.

>paedo proxy owner himself admitting jnigger pays him money monthly
LMFAO

>>518713299
to add to this; it's a flaw of democracy. it creates career politicians who have an invested motive influenced by self-interest. the uk's gov is plagued by them.

>>518713417
Probably besties on his discord and it is a bunch of troons and josh. Josh's mental illness could easily dominate the mental illness of the furfag troons.

>>518713206
The idea of genomics makes sense, to predict disease and prevent it from happening, but the implementation of it lacks any reason and purpose. If there is no disease, why restrict someone? also it plays directly into big pharma so yeah stuff like the 'vaxx' passport and ozempic for fatty become mandatory.

>people can't look after themselves, we, the all knowing intelligent state must make decisions for them
>so we'll cut childhood obesity by...banning refills at Wetherspoons
Stupid fucking cunts

>>518713533
Proper dodgy bastard, shouldn't be allowed around children.

>>518705840 (OP)
>>518705840 (OP)
>>518705840 (OP)
Reminder that the "no tail" posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize furfag degeneracy across the board.
You're welcome.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990

How will all these Indian and African students get jobs now since most large companies in corporate don't wanna sponsor their visa

>>518713954
Don't companies effectively get a discount on jeets because they don't have to pay NI for them?

>>518710266
the face

>"Friends" & family only contact me if they want something from me
Fucking sick of it

>>518713577
>ozempic for fatty become mandatory.

Fat cunt here, i started seeing demons and spirits and they put me on drugs that increase appatite and fuck with your metabolism, went from 180 to 290, fucks with your will power also.

Been trying to get on fucking ozempic but NHS is like naaah for diabetus only. Fuckers.

>>518714104
Poor me, poor me, pour me another drink.
Now bake a new one you soppy cunt.

>>518714120
>Been trying to get on fucking ozempic
Do you want to go blind or suffer kidney failure?

>>518714040
No, I think that got debunked

>>518714181
>Do you want to go blind or suffer kidney failure?
Do i want to be a fat fuck? Been hearing alot of stories about ozempic, monj and the like, so ill probably wait for it to be ironed out. Works for some, knowing my luck ill get all the side effects.

>>518713954
Not. My. Problem.

>>518714104
I get that as well and of course it's only money they want. I had to pay £1.5k to prevent someone in the family from being homeless a couple of weeks ago, brilliant isn't it?

>>518714514
>I had to
blackmail?
>pay £1.5k
>a couple of weeks ago
£1.5k every 2 weeks? nigga are they renting out a room at the palace or what?

Anyone else ever get the feeling to get a tent and camp in the woods and just leave it all behind?

>>518714780
Where will you poo

>>518714912
in a conveniently located designated shitting hole

>>518714670
Because I can't see family go homeless.

>>518714912
>Where will you poo

Mcdonalds, i'll still go into town and such.

>>518715117
God speed, Dick Proenneke.