Thread 518724749

that true?

US Vice President JD Vance said Sunday that Washington holds more leverage than China in escalating trade tensions, while expressing hope Beijing will choose a “reasonable” path.

"If they respond in a highly aggressive manner, I guarantee you, the president of the United States has far more cards than the People's Republic of China," Vance told Fox News.

The comments follow US President Donald Trump's Friday threat to impose 100% tariffs on Chinese goods and restrict critical software exports after Beijing announced controls on the exports of rare earth minerals.

Vance acknowledged the situation requires careful handling. "It's going to be a delicate dance, and a lot of it is going to depend on how the Chinese respond," he said.

"We're going to find out a lot in the weeks to come about whether China wants to start a trade war with us, or whether they actually want to be reasonable. I hope they choose the path of reason," Vance added.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-has-far-more-cards-than-china-says-vice-president-vance-amid-trade-tensions/3715227

>>518724749 (OP)
>expressing hope Beijing will choose a "reasonable" path
I thought Trump was the TACO guy

>>518724749 (OP)
In a certainly light he could honestly make that argument. HOWEVER a pair of 3s still doesn't beat a full house. Americans (except that Dan guy) have always sucked major ass at poker and never do bluffs right.

>>518724749 (OP)
When you are strong pretend you are weak
When you are weak pretend you are strong

Sun Tzu

>>518725010
you realize this isn't some universal and necessary idiom, right? we're resting our balls on Venezuela's forehead right now. it isn't a bluff

>>518724749 (OP)
Tax Chinese fentanyl! Our economy relies on a criminal political party in China that kills hundreds of thousands of Americans per year, and these Poindexters like Vance are talking about them being reasonable. The average American is moronically stupid at this point.

>>518725085
John Bolton tried to get Trump to invade VZ in 2018. This is more neocohn crap disguised as MAGA.

>>518725085
if you have to talk about hidden trump cards youre bluffing

>>518725196
that has nothing to do with the argument
>>518725235
>if you say you can fuck someone up but don't show them precisely how you will do it by outlining every step of your plan and defining all the levers at your disposal, you're bluffing
I can see why no one listens to Poland in the real world

>>518724749 (OP)
JD Vance is the Dan Quayle of the 21st century.

He was only chosen because both left and right know he's a complete puppet, and don't want President Vance. Nobody's gonna take a pot shot at Trump while the prospect of "President Vance" looms

>>518725340
You didn't make an argument.

>>518725340
youre just mad im calling out your bluff

You're not going to get a meaningful answer for this on /pol/ because this board is now full of retarded brown shills who are absolutely confident that Iran, Venezuela, Yemen, North Korea, Russia, China, etc. have never at any point done anything except win incredible victories and make brilliant decisions that btfo the gay jewish west

It's a new kind of contrarianism so terminal that I can't even really comprehend it, like you assholes do realize this image was originally created with seven layers of irony right?

>>518724749 (OP)
Oh no no no Cards sisters?

>>518725196
MAGA was always neocohen crap

>>518725417
here's the argument:
>>518725010
>>518725085

>>518725419
not quite. my personal welfare isn't dependent on the geopolitical pecking order as established through the next decade

>>518725437
Trump is helping Israel build it's empire while ours continues to sag. The next president is going to reverse the tariffs anyway. Burgers just want to claim victory and pretend they're a part of the cabal of billionaires profiting from this shit.

>>518725591
but youre invested on n keeping the bluff alive

The US has more economical power obviously, so yes in that sense. Still, if both sides played all their cards and the whole world economy went to shit, I think there'd be more rioting and insurrections in the US than in China.

>>518725682
sure, I have national pride. but I'll take reality as it comes

>>518725437
>conservative is extremely butthurt that /pol/ doesn't support the GOP
Why are you even here? There are plenty of places you can go to talk about Fox News slop.

>>518724749 (OP)
> US Vice President JD Vance said ...
> that true?
No

>>518725752
so its an irrational my team is better than your team thing

>>518725685
> America is richer
> That means they have the best cards
No they have the most to lose.

>>518725909
I don't know if I'd say it's irrational. there is a clear rationale to the type of emotional cognition that results in patriotism, as it is a macro form of ingroup bias, which is a function of evolutionary biology.
now were we to lose the trade war to China and unable to accept it? that, I agree, would be irrational

>>518725614
>just grow different crops bro!!!
Your mom buying your groceries is the closest you've ever been to farming guaranteed fucking retard.

>>518726121
>evolutionary biology that created sloths and koalas
well have fun in your bubble and root and toot for your boys

>>518725812
Because I'm getting fed up with this shit. This board has become so contrarian that you now literally agree with the blackest gayest trannies on everything.

>>518724749 (OP)
>"Speak loudly and carry a little stick." - Vance

>>518725437
They don’t realise.

>>518726606
oh you're jewish, I should have guessed

>>518726579
evolution doesn't make everyone a winner
but thanks, anon. and sorry I took that jab at you about Poland's relevance. truth is, you guys have been serious about Russian's imperialist designs longer than most outside of Ukraine
also, your women can be beautiful and the men have a great sense of humor
Jan Blachowicz bless

>>518726722
>>518726707
Yes only jews don't want Chinese hegemony, the rest of us long for eternal Maoist rule

>>518725373
Man, these ai vids are getting more and more convincing.

>>518724749 (OP)
Really? Why is it that China has ignored the US and keeps imposing even more tariffs and bans on exports to the US while the orange pedophile is on Twitter kissing Xi's ass?

BRICS is all China needs.

>>518726826
Unfortunately your jewishness is too obvious for your subversion to work, sorry

It's not brown shills so much as it is zigger and chink bots

>>518725085
>Americans really think beating on an impoverished third world nation is impressive.

What a disgusting country full of disgusting people.

>>518726793
clearly sloths and koalas are winners since theyre alive today and survived for millions of years but i dont wanna blow your mind

>>518727261
sure, they're winners within the grand evolutionary chain, but they are relative losers compared to species that have capitalized most on a Malthusian world
I'm not sure why you seem so invested in attempting to hit me with a "gotcha." it's not going to happen because all of my statements are inherently qualified. there's no need to feel insecure, anon
>>518727234
that isn't the point of the argument

>>518726457
>just grow different crops bro!!!
Literally required for long-term sustainability and output of farmland.

>>518727412
you woulndt get it mason

They haven't even gotten China to agree on their Tiktok order.

>>518727576
well, I wish you good health and happiness, friend. buy me a beer if I'm ever in your neck of the woods

>>518727702
same back at you

>>518725010
so just everyones weak then?
maybe this chink just didnt know wtf he was talking about

>>518727412
Then what is the point? Why don't you tough guys go attack China or Russia? Why go after countries that are borderline starving? Fucking disgusting. America exemplifies cowardice and the worst traits of humanity. Your existence is a blight on humanity.

>>518724749 (OP)
he's absolutely 100% correct

>>518724749 (OP)
please Xi pick up the phone.. we can still be friends..

amerimutts produce literally nothing except what? corn and basedbeans and food products. and "financial products"

>>518727850
>memeflaggot seething about America
Many such cases. SAD!

>>518725437
/pol/ has redpilled me, jews and whites are the only race deserving to rule Earth. "Judae-America" is the only faith leading to ultimate liberty.

>>518727885
>magatards are still desperately trying to make Vance cool
lmao

>>518727950
>heh, all you produce is food
yeah, nobody needs that

>>518728082
you lost, tranny

>>518727988
Seething? No. I'm here celebrating. Trump being president has made everyday a celebration because the rest of the world can finally be rid of you. The best part is, you voted him in! Couldn't have made it any easier. You voted in the 'enemy from within'.

>>518724749 (OP)
The US is scared
TACO

>>518724749 (OP)
He is correct, China plays a big game but they are all show when it comes down to it.

We can do this the easy way or the hard way

Your Choice China

>>518727850
>>518727850
>Why don't you tough guys go attack China or Russia?
we are, both directly and indirectly; just as they are
>Why go after countries that are borderline starving?
to secure geopolitical hegemony
>Fucking disgusting. America exemplifies cowardice and the worst traits of humanity. Your existence is a blight on humanity.
prescriptive statements and ethical judgments are irrelevant in the civic arena

>>518724749 (OP)
Someone AI generate him and Xi playing cards
Put Kanye in there for two yees

>>518728195
It's pretty obvious to any non-retard that China picked the hard way. Your move.

>>518728160
No, you're just a subhuman yellow nigger and your country is collapsing in real time lol

>>518727632
chinks are just facetards
everything for fucking face
build a $20B meme bridge in the middle of fuckall for face
drive your cunt off a fucking cliff for face
fuck it

now theyre stuck playing face-chicken with this fucking mug. they KNOW theyre not good for it rn, but theyre gonna do it anyways, cuz muh face. and theres a very high chance vance and don not only know this, but are doing this precisely because of it. xis been doing his whole cult of personality thang for like a decade now. hes way too much of a facetard to back off now. hes worried his party will turn on him if hes perceived as "weak". he might even be right idk enough about chink internal politics to rly comment. i just know their macro game, which is just them fronting for face

>>518728217
You're losing on every metric. Enjoy. You deserve it.

>>518724749 (OP)
Not true at all. China doesn't care if their citizens starve. They can and will win any trade war, at any costs.

>>518728286
>Your move.
ok, your economy collapses and you all starve to death because we're no longer buying your lead-lined child slave-made trinkets lol

>>518728384
time will tell. in the meanwhile, stop fighting the wind

>>518728347
>build a $20B meme bridge in the middle of fuckall for face
lmao still mad about the bridge? btw it only cost $400M to build.

>>518728195
>>518728347
Extreme magacringe

>>518728384
>ignores reality
>repeats talking point
+1 points have been added to your social credit score, too bad you can't eat those

>>518724749 (OP)
We have an extra sub they don’t have anymore

>>518725085
Venezuela btfo

>Vance says America is holding more cards in the poker game of international politics
>look at America's hand
>a pair of 2s, a Yu-Gi-Oh card and Derek Jeter

>>518726457
Yes, faggot. Basedbeans fucking suck ass. They cost too much water and ruin the land.

>>518728243
kek

>>518724749 (OP)
They have more cards because it's a house of cards.

>>518724749 (OP)
>still using card game analogies after being humiliated multiple times and being forced to admit your bluff

>>518724749 (OP)
>BE CHYNA
>HAVE NO CARDS

SAD!

>we're enabling the emergency powers act on account of all the immigrants and drugs coming in through the border
>here's how we're going to use those emergency powers as leverage to wage a trade war with China
How is this shit not being dumped on in the courts?

>>518726826
>jews don't want Chinese hegemony
Coulda fooled me with how wall streets behaved since the 90s

>>518728629
This. First term Trump made a great deal with China and the commies then just delayed and ignored it and there was no reaction. This time they just go directly to ignoring it.

>>518724749 (OP)
>says Vice President Vance

>>518728347
>build a $20B meme bridge in the middle of fuckall for face
Literally frothing about a bridge in Asia lmao

>>518728988
there is a reason why they waited until now to fire back. worth the read.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1977266253837251066

>>518729097
They are seething because they still haven't rebuilt the baltimore bridge.

>>518729294
oh the one that fell over? Lol

>>518729549
They haven't even moved all the rubble away after a year.

>>518728489
and i bet $200M of it even went to building the bridge too
you misunderstand. id imagine purposefully, given the absolute (and actual) mongoloids that populate this board nowadays
lets dumb it down for ya
no one cares about the bridge. not us, not china, not even the ppl whos town is kinda nearby the bridge (it literally is in the middle of fucking nowhere lol). the bridge means nothing. no one cared to get to the other side. it saves a 3hr drive for literally no one, cuz theres nothing on either end of it. its entire use was CHYNA STRONK prop slop.
and so they got their useful idiots and sycophants in alt media to
>wow china so stwong
>china big bwidge
for like a day or so
now, personally, i think $400M is MASIVELY overpaying for what amounts to like a day and half at best of newsreel footy for droolers that already agree with the CCP narrative anyways.
but then IM not the one get $200B of that $400B paid directly into my acct. by contrast, the CCP memebers ARE

so you can see why i, nor anyone else rly, takes china all that srsly
theyre not a srs place
its literally always just posturing
if youre trying to guess what chinas gonna do next, at any moment, look at what would make them LOOK the coolest. THATS what theyll do. and so now orange hitler and his sidekick babyface got em running on a treadmill
so were gonna see how good their cardio rly is, not just how good they say their cardio is in the annual reports

>>518729908
i don't even know what to tell you, this is schizo levels of reasoning. your brain is completely fucked.

>>518725085
yeah lets hope you wont get btfo by a poor third world country 4th time in a row lol

>>518731190
you say this as if we didn't exit each conflict on our own terms. could've gone full crusher and nuked or full on destroyed, but America isn't evil despite what you want to believe due to your envy and insecurities. we basically get bored and realize it's not worth it for a variety of reasons, just as a grizzly bear may choose to not eviscerate an unusually aggressive rabbit

>>518729908
Quite. Thinking about, not building bridges, or even not rebuilding bridges that fell over (like >>518729731), shows how strong and confident America is - and it costs NOTHING.

>>518729167
They got Russia to reopen the Beryl mines. The company that owns them now is based in Beijing.

Xi is a close reader of USGS reports, Trump and Vance would shut it down if they knew it existed.

>>518729167
>>518733600
interesting read, but far from authoritative. if the trade war continues, we'll see what happens. I am of the opinion that it should be America's greatest priority to decouple from China as quickly as they can without causing tremendous shock to the system. it's probably a 10-15 year plan. it also makes the devaluation of the USD pretty smart as it relates to debt liability. I am not comfortable with a central digital currency, though

>W-we're gonna get you pesky chinks
>*Immediately 180s on policy that would hurt China (and everyone else too) again*
>suspicious futures movements moments before announcements
China and the Jews have thoroughly buttfucked America, huh?
What the absolute clown ass fuck shit is this?

>>518724749 (OP)
China can't afford a trade war.

>>518735743
right, they are $37 trillion in debt, it would be insane to start a trade war right now.. no wait, that's the US

>>518735743
>fascist dictatorship that knows how to put its nigger cattle to work and pampers their city onions cucks to develop stuff and be happy
>has millions it can sacrifice
>literally makes everything
No one can really afford it, but if any country actually has a shot as surviving, it's the dirty chinks.
I hate China as much as the next guy but this shit looks really grim.

>>518736022
China's debt is 300% of it's GDP, and has more debt than any country on Earth.
https://www.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/chinas-overall-level-of-debt-tops-300-of-gdp/articleshow/119593822.cms

>>518724749 (OP)
weird he does not mention any cards. what software do they need that they do not have or could not pirate. our trade is only 2.5% of their gdp, it could disappear for all they care. they dont need our basedbeans. they dont need our treasuries anymore either, theyve been selling them for gold. we cant even cut off their sea routes anymore, they have us beat in ship building and have hypersonics which we have no defense for and have been incapable of even developing a working prototype.

>>518736429
not even close, the total debt of the US is 377% of its GDP

Eyyy bro, it's cool that you have the cards and everything, but do you have "rare earths"?
>he doesn't
Well then guess what: nvidia can't make chips anymore.

>>518736593
Tons of software they need, but like you said, none of it can't be stolen either. Worthless EE cucks fight extra hard to make their shitty products as resistant to cloning as possible and some Goungdong no name company will still clone them anyway.

>>518736329
>fascist dictatorship that knows how to put its nigger cattle to work and pampers their city onions cucks to develop stuff and be happy
Youth unemployment was 22% until the CCP stopped publishing the numbers, and companies have been leaving China for SEA, Central and South America to produce instead. Along with India.
>has millions it can sacrifice
No they don't. The retard One Child policy fucked that up, and aging demographics means that all those families had one son, and he is responsible for taking care of the parents in their old age. Getting a families sole provider killed in a war is a great way to get country wide mass protests.
>literally makes everything
They don't make everything. They have to buy there chip from Taiwan, Japan, and SK only assembling those components in China and they've lost a lot of that since 2020. They mostly make cheap plastic shit that isn't needed.

>>518736854
A lot of people can't make a lot of things. Defense and aerospace companies are already putting out feelers for new sources of rare earths because they literally can't make weapons or even commercial jet engines without them.

>>518725010
and who won in the Boxer Rebellion? The smartest man of a retard civilization is still a retard

The Chinese economy revolves around some fat guy in his kitchen shooting flies with a salt gun for $19.99. Fat guy doesn't buy gun, city disappears to save resources.

>>518724749 (OP)
THE CARDS, DONALD

>>518736772
Keep coping little Dong. Also, post source. The USD is the world reserve currency, the Yuan not so much. KEK. This isn't even getting into how Chiner's true GDP is trillions less than what the CCP publishes, and how Chinks get loans and file that loan as an asset instead of a loss kike functioning first worl countries do. Which is why you can't use PPP to compare China to Western economies. China is literally smoke and mirrors.

>>518737419
>post source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_debt
>The USD is the world reserve currency, the Yuan not so much
irrelevant because 95% of China's debt is domestic, they don't owe anybody else anything

>>518737047
>Defense and aerospace companies are already putting out feelers for new sources of rare earths
Sources?

>>518737578
>Wiki
Not a source

>>518737578
>95% of China's debt is domestic
As is the US debt. So, you agree that the US debt is a nothing burger. Got it.

>>518737655
you literally linked to an Indian newspaper as your source, and now you are complaining about a wiki link that includes the actual sources? go take a shit on the street rajesh

>>518737754
again, not true. the US external debt is $20 trillion, China's is $2 trillion.

>>518729731
Nice

>>518725085
>Bro we can bully 3rd world shitholes
>That means we’re a world power still… right?
No Russia

>>518725010
When you are straight pretend you are gay
When you are gay pretend you are straight

>>518724749 (OP)
Chinese exports to USA are only 16% of China's total exports.

>>518724749 (OP)
All they have is rare earths but at the end of the day it's going to take us DECADES to even get 1 singular processing/refinery facility up and running, unless some miracle shit happens.

>>518737808
It was a fork of the Reuters article, and qouting the CCP. Got any more cope excuses? If Chiner.was doing gleat, you wouldn't CHOOSE to live in third world Spain with its failing economy, Wang Tu Smol.
https://www.reuters.com/article/business/chinas-debt-tops-300-of-gdp-now-15-of-global-total-iif-idUSKCN1UD0K9/

>>518724749 (OP)
May I see the cards?

>>518738262
Where are you getting those numbers? You do also realize that China takes other measures to flood our markets without it counting in their stats? They're slimy as fuck when it comes to flooding markets.

>>518724749 (OP)
debt cards and no choices. kek.

Try to conduct any kind of warfare without electronics. AHAHAHAHAH china fucks america each and every day and the US powerless.

>>518738371
>>518737959
You can cope all you want, doesn't change reality, lil Wang. And besides, you said it doesn't mean anything because the US owns 95% of it's own debt. KEK.

>>518738481
Retardation on display with this anon.

>>518738481
And if the US doesn't produce the most advanced eletronics what will China do with the rare earths? Soon enough countries will stop selling to Chineses cause the seek fell and they aren't selling anymore. You see where this going? It's a losing move on the long run.

>>518724749 (OP)
yeah but if you play uno you don't want to have more cards

>>518725437
I used to think like this until I came to terms with the actual reality of the US steadily becoming gayer and browner and more retarded over time. Have any of those trends changed? I don't see it. Our fate seems sealed. In fact, how do you even construct a 'we' or 'our' in a national sense in a country that is 55% white and falling? It's increasingly incoherent.

The whole 'rise of China' is driven to a large degree by China's relative ethnic homogeneity compared to the modern US, which allows it to bypass a lot of crippling issues that the US has inflicted upon itself via mass-immigration and de-segregation.

>>518724749 (OP)
>that true?
No. If we did have "more cards" we wouldn't tell anyone about it. Bragging about nothing is usually a desperation move.
"Project strength when you are weak" and all that.
Statements like this and the ones from town drunk Heggseth worry me. They are clear signs of weakness and decay.

>>518738481
How will China make chips when the only chip grade silica sand used for wafers is only mined in the US?
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/the-worlds-semiconductor-industry-hinges-on-a-quartz-factory-in-north-carolina

>>518738927
You construct it by enslaving everyone to american corporations

>>518738480
China's total exports in 2024 were valued at US$3.58 trillion
US imports from China in 2024 $462 billion
13%

>>518739036
>>518738959
Here's one MAJOR card.

>>518724749 (OP)
I think it's kind of a wonky metaphor; I don't think there are many card games where one player can have more cards than another and this is an advantage.

>>518739108
Where are you getting your numbers?

>>518737808
>you literally linked to an Indian newspaper
Lmao

>>518728347
>cuz muh face
imagine saying this while the fat retard on the other end is the biggest egofiend narcissist vapid nigger on the planet shidding, crying and lying about the most inconsequential retardation like crowd size

The only cards Trump has are all the credit cards.

>>518725196
Probably because Russia began building a long-term base on the island of La Orchila and digging out a mountain and filling it with nukes.

What if John Bolton was actually someone who just gave a shit about American security? And everyone whining about neocons are just a bunch of peacenik commie faggots?

>>518735743
Lol. Lmao.

>>518725010
The point of that is to goad your opponent into conflict dumbass. I'm fairly certain nobody really wants WW3. War with China would be nightmare tier for all parties.
>China would be on a starvation timer while the US had the biggest manufacturing hub in the history of mankind suddenly throwing everything possible at them.
>How many drones can they send before they starve to death
Doesn't sound fun at all.
>Captcha: VAX RV

>>518725112
>China that kills hundreds of thousands of Americans per year,

God I love China so much

>>518739123
AI tells me Silica Sand is mined all over the world, including China.
And unless we find some serious rare earth deposits in the US, that's one less card for us and a major card for the chinks.

>>518725085
>we're resting our balls on Venezuela's forehead right now.
Right after getting BTFO'd of Yemen, Central Asia, Ukraine, and countless failes color revolutions, sure. Also, you're not Lindsay Graham or Larry Summers, so quit the cringe sportsball cheerleader crap--there's nothing to be proud of about globohomo in current year.

>>518739036
>>518739123
>Returning to the question of Spruce Pine's particular importance, Mollick makes it clear in his social media thread that, yes, fully synthetic techniques are available to create similarly pure quartz. However, any sudden closure or interruption of the mining at Spruce Pine would likely cause "pretty catastrophic" disruption (and extra expense) for a few years as the industry scales up manufacturing.
It's something, but not really a huge deal.

>>518739340
>fairly certain nobody really wants WW3

Maybe you should read the words of General Chi Haotian (former Minister of National Defense and one of three CCP 'party elders'). Voice analysis confirms these are his words.

https://jrnyquist.blog/2019/09/11/the-secret-speech-of-general-chi-haotian/

You need to stop projecting your western 'peace at any price' mindset on the rest of the world.

>>518739108
Apples and oranges?
Why do you compare the total China exports against only US imports?
Estimated US export volume for 2023 was 3.05 trillion USD. That's not far behind China and a pretty good number considering we are not a manufacturing mass-producer and usually use a lot more for domestic industries and consumption.

>>518739340
>China would be on a starvation timer
China can already feed itself if it orders the agricultural sector to re-direct animal feed to human consumption and unlike in the mocracies the chinx will comply.

>>518739123
>"The world's semiconductor industry hinges on a single quartz factory in North Carolina"
>"the modern economy rests on a single road in Spruce Pine"
>t. tomshardware.com

>>518724749 (OP)
>I hope they choose the path of reason,

>>518724749 (OP)
ITT: more retards buying the two more weeks bullshit about china collapsing because a dysgenic neckbeard talked big. It's obvious China does not give a fuck. If this was civilization (the game) they are already on their way to an economic victory.

Yes, magatards i know they are a disgusting country full of dog eaters and human organ harvesting. They are also a very real nuclear power. So the reality is that western leaders are going to flex as if they have some magic ace card up their sleeve when all they have are mexicans, blacks, fags, empowered office ladies, and a small pool of tax paying white males.

Ching chongs dont need us... they are the world economic power when it comes to producing actual products. It doesn't matter if retarded boomers made it that way and flooded us with mouths to feed back home at our expense. That is just the way it is.

The only option to keep china from being the #1 top dog of economics is outright war, which would inevitably turn nuclear. Limp wristed politicians would rather try war brinkmanship at the behest of the turbo wealthy rather than pulling our horns in and reevaluating the situation to find a way to maintain our country and quality of life.

"oh heckin no-arino i cant have chingy chongawwoony having more pesos than me!", better poke chinaman until he concedes or "strong measures will be taken"...

like what nigger? Nuclear war?

In short, nafo faggots are terrible. just lies on top of lies. In two more weeks it will be two more weeks until the next faggot tries to flex on china for "reasons?".


Very tiresome. I wish ron paul would have won and deported your retarded neocon shit stirring asses to guatemala with your faggot ass basedbeans.

>>518739494
>AI tells me Silica Sand
>high-purity quartz (HPQ)
No wonder your retarded brown ass has to use AI to look anything up, and even then you get it wrong. Why do all browns treat "AI" like it's some all-knowing oracle that's never wrong? KEK.
>>518739587
>yes, fully synthetic techniques are available to create similarly pure quartz.
Have they ever been tested at a scalable, industrial level that is economically feasible? Or is it all theoretical.

>>518724749 (OP)
>that true?
If it were, orange nigger wouldn't have to brag about it.

>>518724749 (OP)
He's talking about literal pokemon cards, future reserve currency of the human race.

>>518741870
Cope. The US has developed a non-toxic, cheap and scalable technique for refining, sub-human. Just like the Ames process Chiner uses to refine and pollute the ever loving shit out of their farm lands, air, and drinking water. The US innovates, Chiner copies, and copies badly.

>A team of Ames Lab researchers at the Critical Materials Innovation Hub has developed a new, safer, scalable method for producing rare earth metals that utilizes the Ames Process. This new method, Rare Earth Metals from Alternative Fluoride Salt (REMAFS), uses an alternative fluoride salt in the production of rare earth metals, instead of the traditional rare earth salts that are made with harmful hydrofluoric acid (HF). Additionally, the method can be integrated earlier in the rare earth supply chain to reduce the number of steps required to convert mined materials to rare earth metals.

>“This process uses... sodium rare earth fluoride. The difference is that sodium rare earth fluoride can be prepared without hydrofluoric acid,” Nlebedim said. “It can be prepared at room temperature, and it is very easy to scale, so you can produce large quantities of it.”
https://www.ameslab.gov/news/researchers-develop-a-new-non-toxic-method-for-rare-earth-metal-processing
BIG OOF

>Critical Materials Innovation (CMI) Hub researchers at Ames National Laboratory developed a new technology for processing rare earth metals (Rare Earth Metals from Alternative Fluoride Salt (REMAFS)) that has now been licensed to Principal Mineral of Dallas, Texas.
https://www.ameslab.gov/news/cmi-technology-for-rare-earth-processing-licensed-to-principal-mineral
Already being used.

Also:
>Scientists develop rare earth free magnet for use in industrial motors
https://www.ameslab.gov/news/scientists-develop-rare-earth-free-magnet-for-use-in-industrial-motors
UH-OH, sub-human!

>>518725085
Your country is almost bankrupt. You have max 5-10 years left. 20% of your county's expenses is just interest payments now, and you are borrowing or printing more and more money to pay said interest, which just makes the interest bigger and bigger until you cant pay it anymore and your country defaults. It will crash way before that though, when inside players see that the crash is completely inevitable. Expect to see even more kleptocratic behavior within the administration and desperate measures to bring in more money, like for example punitive tariffs which might offset your bankruptcy in the short term. Everyone knows they just need to wait out the USA, your jews, bankers and other corrupt allies have completely fucked your country.

>>518724749 (OP)
its not, china faces the trump administration not the US

>>518724749 (OP)
Xi has no cards and that's part of the problem. Xi can't afford to look weak for even one second or the people will tear him to shreds. Everything China does is about one of two things, finding ways to import more food and raw materials, generating propaganda to convince their citizens that China is doing great and it's fine to eat plastic rice fried in gutter oil.

>>518724749 (OP)
>waging a trade war against the country that holds 3rd most US bonds
Weren't you guys JUST begging them to please please please take all your Goybeans?
What cards does the US have left?

>>518742814
The chinese people have always been slaves. In fact, the quality of life for their current slaves has never been higher. You are delusional if you think a people constantly ruled over by hyper violent and cruel foreigners for the entirety of their history are somehow gonna rise up and make china collapse. kek nigga they put up with mao zedong. pure delusion. self destructive delusion at that.

>>518743302
You are a jew slave

>>518743302
unfortunately, but that doesnt make anything i said less true.

>>518725010
Yes because China is not overcompensating all the time.

>>518728160
You sound upset, like you are trying really hard to prove something that is not happening.

>>518724749 (OP)
It doesn't, China has the means of production

>>518742454
The current US is an amazing creature. I really have no idea how it has functioned this long other than the total exploitation of single white males as the only tax payers. We have ran in the negatives for decades now due to not being able to stop paying minorities for breeding our women through baby bonuses, which effectively led the "we really like to fuck and not work" class beyond middle class prosperity. Like we cant stop paying these people more than we can tax white males which is in itself a dwindling group. The moment we do its helter skelter and all that noise.

Nafo troons are delusional scum. They are projecting victory much like a man dreams he is winning a fight where he already got knocked out twenty minutes ago.

Our elites are so desperate to pay these people and the foreign horde they let in that they are now fleecing their trade partners with tariffs. Yup, you're right. I think you are generous with the timeline but not too far off.

China let North Korea have nukes. Russia is letting Iran get nukes and letting Belarus think the nukes it as there are controlled by Belarus. The genei of nuclear proliferation has already ben let out. The biggest card would be to give Taiwan (or let them make) its own nukes. However, the USA is too retarded to convince other countries to pursue that route. In fact anyone not persuading nukes is retarded.

Best outcome would be a lightning-fast Chinese takeover of Taiwan. It would shake up the entire world, which needs to be done.

>>518742814
Go back to watching fox news

>>518741113
>>518743302
>>518744050


ATTN NAFO TROONS: PLEASE READ BEFORE CONSIDERING MAKING A THREAD. GIVE IT A REST FOR THE SAKE OF AMERICAN ANONS' SANITY.

>>518724749 (OP)
FAGGOT

>>518744775
>t.

>>518725085
>>>>>>>Venezuela
You proved him right.

>>518738046
>>518745638
you're outside of the scope of the argument. and obviously the USA is a superpower. to argue otherwise is a fool's errand
>>518739499
all of that is false. the Yemeni pirates capitulated; Ukraine begs for gibs every day, and then pays for them anyway through the EU; Azerbaijan & Armenia peace is due to American interests
we give up on certain maneuvers when the juice is no longer worth the squeeze, but that's only because we don't want to be truly evil and take by force while having no moral conscience about human toll (unlike Russia and China)
>>518742454
feel free to check in in 10 years

>>518745804
The USA is playing the greatest game of pretend ever and it will soon come crashing down once this two day special operation in Venezuela turns into another 20 years and trillions in debt.

>>518739797
>Why do you compare the total China exports against only US imports?
Because the USA is applying tariffs to imports from China. The point I am making is that the US is a minor factor in Chinese trade policy.

>>518745924
it's all a game of pretend. that's what geopolitical power projection is until shit gets real
we'll see who crashes and who booms when that happens

>>518743302
It's not 2010 anymore. Most Chinese college grads can't find jobs and are returning to the family farms. They have 300 million homeless. They still have millions living in caves. They have the worst debt and worst population collapses in the world.

>>518745924
Like Russia's three day SMO turning in to a 4-year war with 1.5 MILLION dead Russian males of prime age? Typical turd worlder projection and cope, like always.

>>518745804
>we don't want to be truly evil and take by force while having no moral conscience
Cut the bollocks. US foreign policy is more ruthless and reckless than Chinese and has killed and indentured a lot more people.

>>518746111
>Like Russia's three day SMO turning in to a 4-year war with 1.5 MILLION dead Russian males of prime age?
Yes.

>>518724749 (OP)
China can sell US treasuries and crash the market. US can't win

>>518746017
Damn, China is so friggin over....

>>518745433

two more weeks of never ending inflation until you are punished by two more weeks of inflation because the US elites wanted to fleece its trade partners to prolong the nigger-spic cycle.

give it a rest faggot. All china has to do is limit interactions with us and they win as they are on course to do already. I dont think that is a good thing nor do i cheer for it, but the writing is on the fucking wall and has been for a long time. US "leaders" are freaking out about this and pumping out the stupidest and most childish bullshit despite it being their own hatred for white males that led to this point in time we are currently in.

Fuck china, but the last thing i want to hear is a bunch of delusional faggots that have never done an honest day's work in their entire lives tell me about how any day now a homogenous society that makes actual physical products at a scale we can only imagine is somehow about to implode due to "pressure". You niggers say this stupid shit as i watch my own country get shittier and shittier over the course of the last 2 decades and it has only done so because the hatred of white males and the economic war waged against white males by US leaders and titans of bullshit industries.

It's like being terminally ill and the retard besides you keeps telling you about how the guy you dont lie stubbed his toe and its somehow going to kill him any minute now. Like at this point i dont give a fuck, dude.

>>518746296
lol hopefully you won't have to eat those words while living under a global Chinese hegemony
you stay-at-home idealists have no idea what true ruthlessness looks like. it goes from precision necessities to macro famine/terror very quickly

>>518746599
Supporting unconditionally what Israel is doing is as ruthless as it can be

>>518746692
please elaborate. I want to see how many posts it takes for you to resort to insults or to X out the tab
what do you consider ruthless about the current conflict in Gaza? why do you consider Israel (and, by proxy, the USA) to be the primary nefarious actor?
what sort of solution would you propose in the face of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc.?
try to answer any/all of these questions without resorting to Jewish genocide, which I realize is the average /pol/ dimwit's magic answer to every global and domestic issue

>>518746599
ok I'll bear that in mind once theyve bombed half the middle east, supported a genocidal apartheid state, trained up right wing death squads and funded a global.johadi movement

>>518724749 (OP)
Oh fuck.
When America has to pivot towards chest thumping propaganda you know it's fucking bad.

It's like 2008 again when there were tons of articles going around how Strong the American Banking system was and how a default could never happen

I gotta go get my money out of the bank on Monday, shit is about to combust

>>518746834
Stop consuming US mainstream media. Get independent sources and read some history books

>>518746419
guy you dont like* stubbed his toe

>>518746834
You said
>to macro famine/terror very quickly
Which is exactly what Israel is doing. According to your own definition what Israel is doing, with full US backing, is as ruthless as it can be.
>what sort of solution would you propose in the face of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc.?
Just stop being Israel bitch and those nations have no issue with you.

>>518746859
>once theyve bombed half the middle east
that's what happens when an area is the fountain of terrorist activity. we also have been responsible for giving the Jewish diaspora a home, the Abraham Accords, and strengthening relationships with the Gulf States
Iraq was arguably a moral evil, and I won't resort to whataboutism regardless of your infatuation with Chinese dominance
>supported a genocidal apartheid state
please elaborate
>trained up right wing death squads
please elaborate
>funded a global.johadi movement
which movement is that? how do you reconcile both bombing half the ME and funding jihad?
>>518746982
I consume very little media. yet another uninformed take

>>518742814
+$7000

>>518747047
by macro, I obviously mean global given the context of the sentence. Israel is not a superpower
>Which is exactly what Israel is doing
how do you expect them to react when there are multitudinous aggressors surrounding them, all of whom have no problem hiding behind defenseless women and children that they hold as captive domestic prisoners for PR purposes?
>According to your own definition what Israel is doing
my definition doesn't apply to wartime. terrorism is defined more particularly, which I'm sure you understand beyond your bias
>stop being Israel bitch
I knew you couldn't do it. you have no idea how much value Israel has for the US in terms of intelligence and technological trade, especially in biotech. we live in a zero-sum world. there is no benefit to partnering with Palestine or Yemen or Jordan instead that can outweight what Israel provides on the aforementioned fronts
>those nations have no issue with you
but they have an issue with one of our necessary partners

>>518747082
>supported a genocidal apartheid state
Israel
>trained up right wing death squads
School of the Americas
>funded a global jihadi movement
The US backed the Afghan Mujahideen which kind of metastasised

>>518747082
>I consume very little media
Whatever you are consuming, you are parroting mainline US opinion, which is very out of whack with reality.

>>518747271
Are you Jewish?

>>518747047
"dude, we cant stop fucking with sand niggers that would have no way to bother us if our leaders just stopped importing millions of them a year. that would be like crazy dude. practically suicide"

You are arguing with a nafo tranny fox news consumer. Do not let him lie to you. Just insult him and move on. He is not arguing in good faith to his own bullshit.

>>518747271
Ok, so when USA forces famine and terror on a population, it is good and necessary, when China doesn't do any of that it is bad and evil and we must send billions to Israel?
According to your own definition USA is as ruthless as you can be

>>518724749 (OP)
Of course not.

>>518725085
The US hasn't won a war in 80 years

>>518747082
>how do you reconcile both bombing half the ME and funding jihad?
The absence of circumspection, foresight, morals and principles in US foreign policy

>>518747438
>Israel
nature of the beast when Jerusalem has been fought over for a thousand years. plenty of Palestinians still live in Israel and are a part of the Israeli government. however, Judeo-Islamic conflicts will never be fully reconcilable. I'd rather support Israel; they have more to offer
>School of the Americas
this phrase means nothing
>US backed the Afghan Mujahideen which kind of metastasised
I see you avoided the reconciliation. clearly, you have no idea what you're actually trying to say other than the fact that you want to get bile out of your system
we backed the Afghans at the time when the USSR was the greater threat. you take sides in conflicts. welcome to the world, pal. it's the same reason we prefer to deal with India at this time rather than China, despite India posing its own threats
>Whatever you are consuming, you are parroting mainline US opinion
oh no, I'm supporting my country by understanding the rationale behind our execution of maintaining global dominance, what a stumble! spare me the moralism. you come from a place of envy, not because you're going to start the next world peace movement
>>518747546
no, but I knew you couldn't resist asking. if only you realized how richly ironic your concerns about my media diet are
>>518747614
there is no good and necessary. however, China would be and has been much more brutal, i.e., Uyghurs and Tibetans
NZ is a nonfactor so not sure about the "we" in that sentence. send billions or don't, Israel will remain protected because its existence overlaps with American interests in the region
China is not evil (even if they have historically been much more brutal), but I'm an American. I want my side to thrive
>>518747666
not too shabby when "losing" a war means leaving the place after kicking the other guy in the balls but not wanting to commit to annihilating his body
other empires have lost wars much more heavily

>>518724749 (OP)
> that true?
Are you serious? Of course it's true. If USA closes the market China is fucked. China economy is very fragile. However USA doesn't want to take drastic measures so they don't get too nervous.

>>518747922
>not too shabby

>>518724749 (OP)
lul they shidded their pants

>>518739882
Chinks already replaced US as source of söybeans they feed their pigs with. They started reducing imports during first trade war Trump started on his first term. They now import those from Argentina and Brazil. Lot of US farmers are getting fucked because they lost Chinese market that was half of their exports, but that is only good for JD and silicon valley friends because they are turning farmland into investment opportunity.

>>518747863

How else were they gonna get half the dune coons over here to our countries?

It's big brain nafo troon think. you wouldnt get it. just pay more taxes my guy. leave the thinking to the people that have already destroyed us. trust the plan. two more weeks.

-Q

>>518747863
>circumspection
yeah, totally should've let the USSR run roughshod
I do agree with you about Iraq and how it was a match lit by private profiteers
>foresight
has mostly been great, considering where we are today
>morals
>principles
fluid in geopolitics
>>518747976
you can be a self-hating American (and/or insidious immigrant) all you want. the most the US has ever "lost" in a war is not increasing its own death toll for purposes of annihilation. it has never weakened the US's power projection. any other empire wishes they could say the same, but they can't; they've all been fundamentally dismantled
just think about how exceedingly weak this "gotcha" is. do you have the capability?

>>518747949
>DUDE TRUST ME, IF CHINA STOPS GETTING WORTHLESS DOG DOLLARS CHINA IS GOING TO COLLAPSE RIGHT FUCKING NOW

Ruh Roh
I think retards are getting nervous
Hey @grok
Can we pull up Gold Reserve by country, Thank you

>>518724749 (OP)
No, that's not true. Chona recently has shown US that chinese hold americans by the balls by demonstrating that they can cut US off minerals used in military production, US shat its pants and backed down. Notice how clown Trump doesn't put ridiculous over 9000% tariffs on China and just barks hoping others will believe his bluff.
>whether China wants to start a trade war with us
Moron thinks we have memory of goldfish and don't remember US started this war because it woke up and realized their greed fucked them over and now they are completely dependent on China which isn't backward shithole anymore and it actually learned from all this copying to produce and improve their own tech.

>>518724749 (OP)
>far more cards than china
sure thing.. then why market crashed the other day?

>>518748162
Lmao you think gold reserves mean anything. What a dumb fuck. Gold reserves are only useful when shit hits the fan.

USA is the biggest client of China, that's the problem, for China. Also USA has a lot of leverage to cut other China clients.

>>518747922
>>518748125
nothing you say is in good faith. I have no idea why anyone would engage with you for any reason other than to insult you.

Faggot

>>518729731
You clearly have no idea how America works if you think Baltimore/Maryland governments being filled with degenerate retards is of any shock or any concern to America.

>>518748312
>G-G-G-G-G-GOLD DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING
>U-U-USA IS THE BIGGEST CLIENT OF CHINA

That's not even true
You're
1. Gay
2. Retarded
3. Behind on the news
4. nobody needs worthless fucking dollars, but everyone needs goods and materials

If you haven't noticed China already trades Oil in Yuan

>>518748400
your view of "good faith" is flawed. you just don't like that I won't agree with your worldviews
nobody needs to engage. most of you have no agency in the real world and things will play out as they will regardless of any single position in this thread
I won't apologize for supporting the necessity of my country's dominance

>>518747922
>nature of the beast when Jerusalem has been fought over for a thousand years
It was peaceful for centuries under the Ottomans
>>School of the Americas
>this phrase means nothing
If youre interested in what your government has been up to you should Google it
>I see you avoided the reconciliation. clearly, you have no idea what you're actually trying to say other than the fact that you want to get bile out of your system
Know idea how you got alp that out of me pointing out a historical fact
>you take sides in conflicts. welcome to the world, pal.
You do if you're an immoral power sticking its beak into other countries business on the other side of the globe.
My country did that for years and yet I don't feel the need to defend it online. You called the Chinese evil, but the US record is way, way worse
>oh no, I'm supporting my country by understanding the rationale behind our execution of maintaining global dominance, what a stumble!
Yes it's immoral. Not only that it's also retarded. Your government has been shafting you in its own way for 75 years
>spare me the moralism.
You were the one who brought up china being evil. Moralism for thee but not for me then...
>you come from a place of envy
I just like pointing out when hypocritical retards are being stupid and hypocritical

>>518748125
>you can be a self-hating American
Self-hating? I receive zero benefit from the military industrial complex or living in an Israeli puppet state. In fact they only bring me harm

>>518748125
>has mostly been great, considering where we are today
Blimey. Ok I'm out

>>518748518
Yeah that's very cool but if USA or Europe close the market China is in trouble. If you don't get that you don't know anything about economics.

>>518748658
>where we are today

>>518748566
yeah, and then it devolved prior to the USA being instated as the global hegemony. no idea what point you're trying to make
>School of the Americas
call it what it is. no one refers to that particular SEC this way. congrats on identifying power projection
>Know idea how you got alp that out of me pointing out a historical fact
because you haven't been able to reconcile your internal dialectics
>You do if you're an immoral power sticking its beak into other countries business on the other side of the globe.
we are interested in retaining global hegemony. deal with it
>You called the Chinese evil, but the US record is way, way worse
I didn't call the Chinese evil, but I can understand how parsing semantics may be difficult. I consider meat shield tactics and widespread famine evil. that doesn't make the soul of a nation evil
>Yes it's immoral.
>Moralism for thee but not for me then...
false equivalence. also, I'm doing perfectly fine, thank you. I live in one of the wealthiest counties in America
>I just like pointing out when hypocritical retards are being stupid and hypocritical
if only you had the capacity to actually do so. what you like doing is clutching your pearls online
>>518748587
if they "only" bring you harm, then you should stop using the internet. otherwise, learn to qualify your statements and upgrade your reasoning capacity from that of a 13-year-old
>>518748658
see you in the next thread whining about the immorality of the civic arena. you're too soft for this world, anon

>>518728195
>2fatfaggots.png

>>518748556
Nobody asked you to apologize for your faux patriotic persona in the support of the current thing.

Last (you). Enjoy.

>>518748761
>The country that is self-sustaining is going to be in trouble because their GEE DEE PEE might go down
Yeah man, and if Russia gets sanctioned it'll collapse as well

>>518748928
You didn't call the Chinese evil? Your words...
>we don't want to be truly evil and take by force while having no moral conscience about human toll (unlike Russia and China)

>>518748566
PLEASE STOP SERIOUSLY ENGAGING THE NAFO TROON.

Please, sir. he will go on forever. you will never get him to concede to anything remotely logical. for your own good, please disengage.

>>518748992
your (You)s mean nothing. this thread means nothing. as I stated before, all /pol/ is capable of doing is whining and bitching in an insulated and dying anime forum. none of you are trained to see and use the pragmatic levels of the world
>>518749049
notice the qualifier (e.g., meat shield tactics and lack of concern for death count in particular scenarios). also, stop using ellipses so retardedly
let me be very clear: no state is evil. this is what power is in a Malthusian world. you will never have a world where someone doesn't attain dominance at the expense of others. China and Russia and India are only doing what's natural, just as America is; just as UK, Ottomans, Romans, Prussians, Japanese, etc. have done before. it is certain actions that derive from want of dominance that can be considered evil, but even then it is never absolute
again: the world will never not be a power struggle

>>518747922
>this phrase means nothing
It meant something south of your border from 40's to 2000's. It is where you trained practically all military dictators in Caribbean, central and south America in and their supporting staff of goons. They re-branded it as Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation in 2000 and removed torture from curriculum. Notable alumni include last narco-dictator you removed from power in Panama, Manuel Noriega. Also quite a lot next potentially removed narco-dictators staff includes a lot of graduates, a lot of Venezuelan generals are graduates, including ones that run their intel and internal security.

>>518749163
Thanks. That's good advice.

>>518724749 (OP)
all cards are made in china now though you cant even find a made in USA deck

>>518749232
torture is and always will be a part of the curriculum. maybe you won't see it on the enrollment sheet anymore
thanks for clarifying that it used to be a formal term. I've only known it as WHINSEC
the rest of what you mentioned, I have passing familiarity with. I don't view it morally. all global hegemonies project power with varying degrees of brutality. America has been one of the gentler ones

>>518749222
>"China is truly evil"
>"Let me be clear no state is evil"
Nice
Hypocrisy, historical ignorance and pretentious midwittery are a bad combination.
And I'll use ellipses however I feel like ta.

>>518749039
>china
>self-sustaining

>>518749473
>we don't want to be truly evil and take by force while having no moral conscience about human toll
>AND
>and = if
do you understand sentential and conditional logic? there is a qualifier attached to that statement
I don't give a fuck what you think of me. again, you are of no consequence. you're a flattened chatterbox in an ephemeral thread on a dying website
keep using ellipses like a moron, then; it is of no moment

>>518746692
>t. Muslim

>>518724749 (OP)
We are going back to Afghanistan because of China and we built a base.
But the USA need resources from China to fight China
Same thing as Russia.
I don't think China is putting up with the USA anymore after the Afghanistan base to fight China thing .

>>518749248
no problem man. he will go on forever masturbating his own perceived intellect by regurgitating the finest fox news talking points. He will be shamelessly contrarian and insist on his own mental superiority despite saying things like...

>none of you are trained to see and use the pragmatic levels of the world

it's just edgelord "im already behind you kid" bullshit. Like being trained to think a certain way is somehow better than having a high IQ.

"heh kid while you were lifting weights and running i was reading books about how to use the katana."

its just all bad faith contrarian, yet entirely neo-con mainstream, edgelord bullshit. These dudes are like the henry rollins of right wing "thought".

It's just insider trading guys. They have no intention on being hard or soft on china, they're just gonna say shit to manipulate the markets.

>>518741113
Wumao shitters like you are so fucking lucky Trump is a softie who won't deport you like he should.

>>518749758
the funniest part about your posts-long, thousand-word tirade about me is that I don't watch FOX and I've definitely been involved in politics at a higher level than you ever will be (I have won national races for U.S. Congress as a Campaign Manager & General Consultant)
you keep trying to put me in a box because I don't agree with your worldview, and because I may have some overlap with some things that get said on certain conservative platforms
the reality is you don't have the stomach for politics. you're content to whine like a woman online, but you'll never do anything to actually civically engage on a meaningful level, even if that's as local as joining your public school board or getting in as a trustee as the local library
you are speaking into the abyss. so am I, of course, but I'm reflecting reality into it; you, meaningless ideals

>>518724749 (OP)
Let me guess.
The cards in questions are green cards for his wife's extended family?

>>518735615
Oh please tell me, Anon, how does one absolute clown ass fuck a shit?

At what point does "MAGA" actually work towards fixing America instead of ruining everyone else?

>>518749611
I've got a degree in philosophy which included a fair bit of propositional logic and I've no idea what you're on about.
The statement...
>"we don't want to be truly evil and take by force while having no moral conscience about human toll (unlike Russia and China)"
implies that China and Russia are truly evil AND take by force with no moral conscience - afaict from my experience of English
Anyhow whatever...
Dunno why you're so... worried about it considering you've now gone all Machiavellian realpolitik while willy waggling about global dominance.

>>518749277
USA produces cards and the best fanciest hand-drawn cards are almost all made in the USA with a tiny amount from Switzerland still being produced.

If you play cards with machine printed decks you're a pleb. Hand drawn cards or nothing. Heck I have a set of hand-drawn cards on thin tiles of real ivory. But I have tarot cards from 400 years ago, complete old English and pre-Civil War decks... you don't know shit basically.

I bet you thought you could make your gay post without encountering autism on 4chan. Well, you're wrong again.

>>518749758
Maybe he is a bot sent to enrage everyone? It wouldn't be surprising if they are up to that kind of thing these days.
Good night man. Time for me to hit the hay.
>>518749984
If you're not a bot, goodnight to you too anon

>>518750126
then clearly your degree is meaningless if you can't understand that "and" is used as a conditional in that statement
I've also reiterated my point about state morals several times over, but you are fixated on this one sentence because it somehow emotionally, psychologically and/or spiritually hurts you to admit that my framing may be different from how you initially interpreted it. you're like a starved dog on a bone. I'm sure your imaginary philosophy professors would be very proud of how you engage in dialogue
>Dunno why you're so... worried about it considering you've now gone all Machiavellian realpolitik while willy waggling about global dominance.
you can misattribute intentions and thought all you'd like. I could just as easily say you're in this thread because you're hungry to deepthroat girthy American cock. it's equally nonsensical, but it's how you're coming across to anyone who isn't mired in the most petty forms of bias
imagine having any view other than one informed by realpolitik. good luck at your inconsequential dissertation

China can talk all the shit they want but until they drop the yuan peg, they're just spitting a bunch of hot air regarding this trade war

>>518725437
Yea, real patriots support Israel. Only brown shills hate on Israel.

>>518749920
>trump
>deporting anyone
>worse numbers than obama on deportations
>record immigrants, but now legal so its ok
>hired a standing army for deportations
>deportations still dwindle

i dont like china. However i dont fucking live in china you paint chip eating true believer. I dont give a fuck about china. I care more about fixing this country than fleecing trade partners so that our elites can afford to continue fucking up this country.

What in your tranny authority worshipping commie brain do you not understand? it is past the point of return, retard. We have let in 50-100 million immigrants in the last 10 years. That is a force 50-100 times the size of the american military. we are so fucked that i dont give a shit about a bunch of dog eaters that the US will probably pay to go college here. its ogre.

Go back to watching football.

>>518725437
I don't think hating Jews correlates strongly with being brown. I think it's mostly just a terminally online thing because the type of people that spend every waking hour on 4chan or other online cesspools don't have much going for them; they need a scapegoat
I think there is probably a greater correlation between gang-unaffiliated mass shooters and a hatred for Israel

>>518724749 (OP)
None of those cards are playable because our president is too weak to even pretend to play one for more than a 24-hour period

>>518749984
>I have won national races for U.S. Congress as a Campaign Manager & General Consultant
Yup. The American empire is doomed.

>>518749984
Go fight that dragon dildo and conquer the second knot, you jordan peterson/ben shapiro clone

i didnt even read your post.

>>518728127
dilate, migatranny

>>518750701
anon, you're so mad that you can't even X out after saying good night like 6x. hopefully you have the wherewithal to realize that you are not capable of forming sound judgments. more universally, hopefully you realize your opinion will have no influence on how things play out. come see how America is doing in twenty years
>>518750730
I don't listen to them, either, and it tickles me to know that when you try to insult somebody, the things that pop into your head are particular types of dildoes and whatever "second knots" are
like I said, you don't have the stomach for politics so all you can do is chatter online in a thread that will be forgotten in about two more hours. you are ineffectual

>>518750501
>worse numbers than obama on deportations
like i said, a wumao shill. because anyone with a brain and any sense of honesty would never say something this fucking retarded outside of reddit, where the trained monkeys might actually believe it. tellme, Xiang Lao, if Obama deported so many illegals why were there 20 million more when he left office than when he came in?
you pretend to care about this country but then bitch and scream and moan whenever anyone does anything to fix it. you preted to be ambivalent toward China but you also shill total surrender to China as some kind of smart, patriotic policy choice.
you are a filthy, lying, third-world, obsequous, servile, mongoloid worm.
you will never be American.
you will never be civilized.
you will never be a free man.

>>518750744
Eurofags still seething over Based Boy Vance

Mad he made a fool of your little jewish midge?

>>518750888
I'll take third-world immigrants who will die for this country over many of our checked-out white "compatriots," 2bhwu anon

>>518750848
Ok chief. Thanks for the pointers

>>518751027
no problem. now put your actions into words and go get involved in some civic organization or start one yourself. and if you're not willing to get down into the trenches, then don't talk about what the sausage tastes like when you have no idea how it's made

>>518750888
all that text and nothing of factual substance said.. sad!

i took great pleasure in not reading 90% of it. I feel like my life is better for not having done so. I mean it was so stupid from the start and all.

>>518751110
Doomed I tell ya!

>>518750848

dude im not going to read your stupid blog. jordan peterson and ben shapiro do the same lame shit only better.

>>518751204
you clearly know more about them than I do if you're informed on the forms of their arguments
learn to be a pragmatist or else keep blaming everybody else for your problems
I will pray that you learn to love and help our country. otherwise, find somewhere else to live because there are thousands that will take your spot and fight hard for our interests

>>518751110
boy i knew you liked sausage

>>518751322
dumbass, nobody is going to read your blogs.

>>518751166
>>518751204
>>518751447
>>518751522
you've been whittled down in real-time. from paragraphs of ranting to pithy, sophistic remarks. always seems to go this way once you get to the MEAT of the issue. have a good night with your heads in the clouds, my brittle friends

China is weak
Worse than russia

>>518751564

>you have been whittled down in real time

by hot air? you just keep typing stupid nonsensical shit like you're jordan peterson. You have a low IQ. Brevity is the soul of wit.


In short, you have no point dumbass.

>>518751875
solid evaluation of a dozen posts you ostensibly didn't read
people like you don't amount to much because you focus on winning arguments rather than discerning the truth of the world
good luck out there

>>518752056
>discerning the truth of the world

more pretentious esoteric bullshit. Hot air.

>people like you don't amount to much because you focus on winning arguments

imagine telling that to a barbarian that has slammed an axe into your breastplate. how stupid. then having the pretentious audacity to utter...

>you could have discerned the truth of the world like me.
it's just pretentious stupid bullshit 24/7. cringola.

>>518752454
>>518751875
>>518751522
>>518751447
The eternity of Chinese humiliation will never end because of Chinese like this retard.

>>518752454
I wouldn't say that to a barbarian because we'd be on a bloody field somewhere. but you're not a barbarian and we are not in combat.
you are somewhat on the right track with your analogy, though, since you, by some miracle, managed to not apply morality to the ruthless actions of the barbarian
as this thread has run its course, I bid you good night. god bless our country

>>518729167
If this is true, it’s actually impressive.

>>518752501
you are one dumb nigger. If all the text back and forth with you inorganic shills hasnt clued you in that i am not chinese, then you are very stupid.


....oh i get it, you're trying to convince others that i am a chink. well, youre a dumbass.

>>518752795
>Chinese is so humiliated by being Chinese he denies it online
Every time.

>>518752631
goodnight eloquent dumbass

>>518724749 (OP)

The card that the US has is that it's a land of over consumption land whales and that means people want to sell stuff to them. China more than all, and that left them rather dependent on America. It's reciprocal of course, but there's no shortage of people wanting to sell to America, China will have a harder time finding people to buy at the scale America does.

>>518752844

whatever you want to believe tranny.

>>518724749 (OP)
>Starts a trade war with China
>"Hopefully China doesn't decide to start a trade war with us"

Absolute fucking retard and so are any miggers that slurp this shit up

>>518726606
>This board has become so contrarian
Where do you think you are?

>>518753092
been arguing with them for 2 hours and they have gave out. probably time for shift change or something.

yes, they are retarded. thankfully i have learned not to read much of their posts. they do not argue in good faith.

>>518753310
I don't even think they read half the time. It's just an endless stream of Twitter bot talking points. Just mock them for being retarded faggots. It's the best

>>518728087
>GMO 50ybeans and corn
>With 20 different pesticides and herbicide
>Food
The Chinese feed them to cattle for a reason goy.

>>518724749 (OP)
>>518724749 (OP)
>>518724749 (OP)
Reminder that the "no tail" posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize furfag degeneracy across the board.
You're welcome.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990

>>518729908
>I don't care about the bridge
>proceeds to write a college essay seething about said bridge

>>518752501
Let me guess. You're a "taiwanese" or "cantonese" who's desperate to show how not Chinese you are. Pic very much related

>>518755462
kek

>>518754709
i can tell they read a lot of useless jordan peterson crap and 48 laws of power slop.

If they are not trannies there is a very fine line between them.

>>518724749 (OP)
China was built entirely out of pure greed

>why build ar home with unions labor laws environmental laws human rights

YEARS of deaths fighting to establish the first world standard and what did these worthless scum of the earth do??

Spent decades getting filthy rich basically teaching china nothing matters just profit and production and NOW china has grown into a major threat

We literally live in the worst world ever everytime some spines rats get powerr they fuck everything over for everyone

China deserves to win the world since the nuclear rage the weild is totally just and fair the world raised china and china was taught everything by the worst garbage retarded scum losers. I hate this world is much its not even funny. Some pathetic sellout rat loser gets to go to china and make an absolute killing knowing they pay the workers pennies they pollute like crazy what kind of worthless rat would have pride in being rich after knowing the cost

I hope daily for this world to be totally erased people are just such utter fucking scum its painful. Burn in hell mother fuckers

>>518755699
>8 hours later the humiliated Chinaman is still seething
Get used to it. Humiliation is Chinese culture.

>>518726457
I bet you're such a good farmer you need to keep putting more fertilizer on your fields year after year as the soil depletes.

>>518755817
just keep implying you have won something you seething dumbass

>>518756077

you know he is. its hard work letting giant machines that cost 500k a piece do all the work for him. he's a real man and drives a real big truck and supports the free market and capitalism as long as his existence is subsidized and the government guarantees his shit gets sold or it pays him for his failures either way.


yep, hes a rugged individualist.