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Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518771482 >>518771833 >>518773244 >>518774211 >>518774334 >>518774737 >>518775079 >>518776789 >>518776811 >>518777579 >>518778251 >>518778707 >>518778790 >>518780352 >>518780609 >>518780727 >>518780980 >>518780985 >>518781720 >>518783118 >>518783736 >>518784709 >>518785152 >>518785240
>Allah saves Jesus from dying on a cross
>doesn't save Muhammad from getting raped or being poisoned
Anonymous (ID: V1NJTTbw) United States No.518771521 >>518784864
makes you think
Anonymous (ID: cMw8RzTU) Canada No.518771833 >>518773188 >>518774198 >>518780470
>>518771482 (OP)
And I know it all happened because a magic book told me so
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518773188 >>518780681 >>518786222
>>518771833
historic records tell us about muhammad getting raped and poisoned
Anonymous (ID: NLfyKjl+) New Zealand No.518773244 >>518774104
>>518771482 (OP)
Allah didn’t save shit
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518774104
>>518773244
How do you know?
Anonymous (ID: lebJ0+BK) United Arab Emirates No.518774198
>>518771833
Neither is from the quran
Anonymous (ID: unszqUMq) Italy No.518774211 >>518774246 >>518790953
>>518771482 (OP)
Who says he wanted to be saved?
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518774246 >>518774868 >>518778112
>>518774211
You're saying Muhammad wanted to get raped?
Anonymous (ID: n4l4YRNc) France No.518774334 >>518774615
>>518771482 (OP)
>In the Quran, Jesus is described as the Messiah [...] however, he is stated neither to have been crucified, nor executed...
15s on google got me that information
You are a retard.
Anonymous (ID: FBR9oM0e) Slovenia No.518774432 >>518781660 >>518785061 >>518786174
>slaughters a jewish woman's entire family and village
>tells her to make him dinner afterwards
YALLAH WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING!?
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518774615
>>518774334
>he is stated neither to have been crucified, nor executed
Allah raptured him up to the heavens before they can kill him
Anonymous (ID: b3ISh1EK) Poland No.518774737 >>518777714
>>518771482 (OP)
Rape victims can't be prophets?
Anonymous (ID: unszqUMq) Italy No.518774868 >>518775486
>>518774246
Kinda
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518775079 >>518775486 >>518775872
>>518771482 (OP)
Where do you even get this stuff
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518775486
>>518775079
the pic? Found it on /int/
>>518774868
hmm
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518775872 >>518776020
>>518775079
Nope, the notion that he was raped or poisoned. It's probably a 2nd or 3rd class hadith collection like abu dawud or something but you do realize you don't have to take those as true though right?
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518776020 >>518776425
>>518775872
>he was raped
It's a sound chain of narration in Musnad Ahmad, Section: Narrations from Abdullah ibn Mas’ud (may Allah Most High be pleased with him). Approximately 848 hadiths are attributed to him.
>or poisoned
It is common knowledge. How did he die then?
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518776425 >>518776669 >>518776708
>>518776020
>It's a sound chain of narration
Can you cite the hadith?
>How did he die then
Most hadiths point that he died of natural causes following a fever. Some do say he was poisoned though.
This is why being a Quranist is the approach one should go for. Hadiths contain innumerable contradictions naturally because the people that collected them did so 200 years after the prophet's death and there were nearly 600k hadiths floating around that they had to filter. They also filtered them according to their own logic and morality sometimes, making the whole process untrustworthy. It's a good thing 90% of muslims barely know 3 hadiths
Anonymous (ID: QbLbmwVO) United Kingdom No.518776669 >>518777279
>>518776425
Being a quranist is even worse, how the fuck are you supposed to know what the ramblings that Muhammad wrote even mean? Like semen coming from between the backbones and ribs, not the balls.
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518776708 >>518777279
>>518776425
>Can you cite the hadith?
https://sunnah2.com/262
مسند الإمام أحمد بن حنبل (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, v. 3, p. 399, hadith# 3788).
تاريخ مدينة دماسكوس إبن هبات الله (Tarikh Medina Damascus, Ibn Hibat Allah, v. 46, p. 461).
نور الدين الهيثمي مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد (Mujma' al-Zawa'id w Munbigh al-Fawa'd, Ibn Abi Bakr, v.8, p. 261).
>Quranist
5 prayers a day comes from hadiths
Anonymous (ID: QbLbmwVO) United Kingdom No.518776789
>>518771482 (OP)
>Allah saves Jesus from dying on a cross
The full story is even funnier, the disciples got together in a room and Jesus wouldn't make them leave until one of them agreed to be disguised as Jesus and die in his place.
Anonymous (ID: ZZss0uI5) Austria No.518776811
>>518771482 (OP)
its kinda tomato tomato, you are by definition a moron if you pick any sandnigger make believe story.
it takes a special kind of retard to make sandnigger harry potter books from ancient past your "truth" world view
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518777279 >>518777445 >>518779158
>>518776669
>Like semen coming from between the backbones and ribs
It doesn't make sense under the light of hadith either. You're welcome to contemplate the Quran just as anyone else. What I personally understand is that its not a literal explanation of how semen's formed. Just like how the embryological stages are mentioned but its not 100% scientific either, more like mentioned as a display of God's infinite might and wisdom and to paint a certain picture.

>>518776708
>5 prayers a day comes from hadiths
First off, you don't need hadith to actually pray. Prayer was taught to muslims and it was taught and passed down the moment they converted. I learned prayer from my father not from the hadith and so did he and so on so forth. If the hadith serves as a reference, then so be it but it's not necessary to actually know what prayer is like.
My argument is that not all hadiths are false, some have to be true obviously it's just that you can look at the hadith collections with a grain of salt.
Al bukhari (the most authentic one) was compiled 200 years, among 600k hadiths and he used abstract things like his own morality of why a hadith should or shouldn't be included. Who's to say I'm not supposed to do the same?

>Musnad al-Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal
This was compiled before al bukhari with nearly 30k hadiths, it's clearly not taken seriously as something like bukhari or muslim within sunni schools
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518777445 >>518777860
>>518777279
>This was compiled before al bukhari
so closer to Muhammad's lifetime then?
Ahmad ibn Hanbal is one of the four great Sunni imams
Anonymous (ID: kzn8L1cO) Poland No.518777501 >>518777612
The fact that /pol/ hasn't picked up this meme from /int/ shows that it's brown board
Anonymous (ID: Dx6z9gGv) Poland No.518777579
>>518771482 (OP)
You can't rape the willing. They just happened to catch him in a frisky mood.
Anonymous (ID: Dx6z9gGv) Poland No.518777612 >>518779098
>>518777501
It started on the sharty though
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518777714
>>518774737
why didn't he predict his own rape?
Anonymous (ID: RP1P8jkS) Brazil No.518777819
the muslims don't usually deny allah had favorites in general though and that jesus was a prophet is not to be discussed in islam either
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518777860
>>518777445
>so closer to Muhammad's lifetime then?
That's of irrelevance, I clearly mentioned there were 600k hadiths floating around. That's 3k~ false hadiths generated per year since his death if we count only bukhari.
>Ahmad ibn Hanbal is one of the four great Sunni imams
And this is why sunnism is a cult that should be shot down, it puts scholars and their books on a pedestal, even above the quran in many instances. I explained the process of hadith collection above and you can't seriously think these are legitimate methods of history documentation. Who said what is not to be taken seriously. The Quran is authentic because it was written at the time of the prophet and we've got manuscripts of it all over the world that can be carbon dated to that exact period. What scholar that came ~200 years after the fact could possibly be as valid as that?
Anonymous (ID: zAxZB1xt) Bosnia and Herzegovina No.518778112
>>518774246
>wanted to get raped
paradox, rape is not consensual hence one cannot want to be raped otherwise it is not rape, but sex
Anonymous (ID: +W/X1Rjk) Canada No.518778251
>>518771482 (OP)
Jesus was his fav son, Mo is just a human loudspeaker
Anonymous (ID: uW2Tu9BI) United States No.518778647
DON'T LOOK UP THE AGE OF THE GIRL MUHAMMAD MARRIED
Anonymous (ID: GYZcYu5a) Germany No.518778707 >>518783613
>>518771482 (OP)
God works in mysterious ways.
Anonymous (ID: JdqP/rQV) Australia No.518778790
>>518771482 (OP)
Zutt are South Asian so why do these images depict them as niggers? It makes it more hilarious that Muhammad was gang banged by Indians
Anonymous (ID: kzn8L1cO) Poland No.518779098
>>518777612
My point still stands
Anonymous (ID: P5nvwTJ2) Poland No.518779158 >>518779511
>>518777279
Do you know any website where I could download history textbooks recommended by the Eygyptian Ministry of Education? Do they have any official website like that?
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518779511 >>518779552
>>518779158
Probably not, sorry. Your best bet is just using things recommended on the internet, there's no real obscure Egyptian history except the one after the 1956 revolution. That part is doctored by the government, not sure if it's valid or not.
Anonymous (ID: P5nvwTJ2) Poland No.518779552
>>518779511
OK, shukran!
Anonymous (ID: 4ZU6q37F) United States No.518780352
>>518771482 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: B6tfIY48) United States No.518780470
>>518771833
Even worse, it comes from a Chinese telephone style practice in Islam where two hundred years after Muhammud lived a dude could claim that his great-great-great grandad knew a guy who knew Muhammud and that guy claimed Muhammud got gang banged by niggers, and Muslim scholars of the day would treat that as canon.
Anonymous (ID: 4mf4fU4S) No.518780545 >>518780675 >>518780726
Since this fake hadith is getting forced a lot and no muslim is speaking on it i'll do it myself, Muhammad, in the Quran and the Hadith, has preached against homosexuality. If it got out that he participated in a gay orgy, it would ruin his reputation. So why did he bring his friend, Abdullah? Why did he let him tell this story? Why didn't they kill him for accusing Muhammad of being gay? How would an orgy with a bunch of travelling Indian men be organized? So many questions.
|OP, You reveal your own s*xuality (ID: AUNqKA3N) No.518780609 >>518780675
>>518771482 (OP)


Debunked crap that reveal your own sexual fantasm.
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518780675
>>518780545m
Why are you implying Muhammad had a gay orgy instead of him getting raped? Are you saying he was feling frisky?
>>518780609
>Deboonked
sure Abdullah
Anonymous (ID: xGvbDcu6) Estonia No.518780681 >>518780718 >>518785984
>>518773188
Historic records also say 6 gorillion chosen people died
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518780718 >>518781165
>>518780681
so why would Muslims fabricate their history and show Muhammad as a rape victim?
Anonymous (ID: 7qmOtX02) Denmark No.518780726 >>518780817
>>518780545
>fake hadith
I'm no muslim, but it's not "fake" is it? It's still a hadith even when everyone agrees it never happened, right?
Anonymous (ID: TNL0NrVo) Germany No.518780727
>>518771482 (OP)
glorious allah cannot help momo from being poisoned by jewish woman
omnipotent allah
Anonymous (ID: TrHcWbjE) United States No.518780806
Hahahaha look at all the fucking mudslimes in this thread seething and crying.

Third world should be cut off from the internet and allowing them the connection was the beginning of the end.
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518780817 >>518780960
>>518780726
>even when everyone agrees it never happened
it is sahih you dumbass
written down by one of the top 4 sunni imams and attributed to the guy who has 800+ hadiths to his name
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518780960 >>518781281
>>518780817
If it's sahih then why wasn't it included in bukhari?
Anonymous (ID: 5o+oSE62) Italy No.518780980
>>518771482 (OP)
CAREFUL ABDULLAH YOU ARE STEPPING OUT OF THE LINE
Anonymous (ID: TrHcWbjE) United States No.518780985
>>518771482 (OP)
Muhammad was raped by a pack of Zutt niggers in the year 630
Anonymous (ID: xGvbDcu6) Estonia No.518781165 >>518786422
>>518780718
Why should i know, i hate sandnigger cultists.
Or any kind in fact, christcucks and jews included.
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518781281 >>518781394
>>518780960
so you agree all hadith in bukhari like Mo diddling Aisha are 100% true and canon?
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518781394
>>518781281
Why are you acting like a nigger? Do you know what a hypothetical is? I'm playing devil's advocate to show that you have no idea what you're talking about. Listen, if you want to believe such things are true and factual to fit your narrative of islam is le bad then go ahead mate.
Anonymous (ID: tyUtFSWn) No.518781660 >>518782661
>>518774432
whoever sent him knew something.
"to mount someone with a matter" in arabic can mean "to annoy".
Anonymous (ID: ix5dqDV7) Israel No.518781720
>>518771482 (OP)
>believing old sand fairy tales
on behalf of the entire Jewish race I apologize to the goyim for inventing this bullshit
Anonymous (ID: OQutzuyN) United States No.518782620
99.9999% of hadiths are fake. This Hadith you guys are citing isnt just fake it’s mistranslated. HIDE THREAD
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518782661 >>518782864 >>518783296
>>518781660
>"to mount someone with a matter" in arabic can mean "to annoy".
the same word for mounting is used that's used for sex with women
why were they naked though?
Anonymous (ID: tyUtFSWn) No.518782864 >>518783024
>>518782661
>the same word for mounting is used that's used for sex with women
and you provided no contradiction that would exclude the meaning of annoyance

>why were they naked though?
indians sages walk around naked. why were they naked in front of people who feared them in addition to the prophet, instead of taking their time getting naked in a cosier place?
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518783024 >>518783296 >>518783304
>>518782864
>indians sages walk around naked
zutts were labourers not sages
>muhammad was hurt and exhausted out of annoyance
you can't cope out of this one
Just admit jeets raped Allah and use it to fuel anti-jeet hatred
Anonymous (ID: DraKf4SC) Italy No.518783118
>>518771482 (OP)
allah is such a nigger for waiting 600 years before telling people jesus didn't die on the cross
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518783296 >>518783408
>>518782661
The word you're looking for is "waṭi’a", meaning ride, step, fuck, invade, encounter, opress. The word used in the hadith is "Rakiba" which means ride, board, engage in, put together, overcome, etc. None of which includes fuck.
>>518783024
Just admit you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't explain why this hadith in particular is true, why it wasn't included in bukhari 20 years later and why only 2000 hadiths of hanbali were included in bukhari. Why shit talk something you don't understand? Just stick to muslims are rapists, at least you can argue for that using statistics of white hating refugees from war torn countries.
Anonymous (ID: tyUtFSWn) No.518783304 >>518783408
>>518783024
>entirely disregards a prophecy about...
>four items out of four...
>of communication...
>electronics
interesting.
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518783408 >>518783452 >>518783569
>>518783304
no idea what you're babbling about
>>518783296
A woman may be compared to a cow, horse, or camel for all are rakiba
Anonymous (ID: tyUtFSWn) No.518783452
>>518783408
of course you don't.
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518783569 >>518783649
>>518783408
>A woman may be compared to a cow, horse, or camel for all are rakiba
What? Where did you draw this comparison from? You can't ride or fuck a cow. What are you even saying.
Anonymous (ID: tiYI0hR+) Russian Federation No.518783613
>>518778707
Mistyrios ways are just random shit, which is working even without circumission of Abrahamstein.
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518783649 >>518784117
>>518783569
تفسير القرطبي الجامع لأحكام القرآن (Tafsir al-Qurtubi, v.15, p.172)
>no we don't rape cows or camels or goats or other animals
lmao
Anonymous (ID: NS5E1lWY) United States No.518783736 >>518783835
>>518771482 (OP)
>doesn't save him from dying the same way he said he would die if he was a false prophet
What gives?
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518783835
>>518783736
>aiiii my aorta, save me alla-ack
Anonymous (ID: Pf81MXlk) Egypt No.518784117 >>518784178
>>518783649
Ah yes that scholar that said things from the 13th century, commentating his own interpretation. As if 20 other interpretations don't exist. I'm done here
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518784178
>>518784117
>I can't refute here
Anonymous (ID: t8ynHkOI) No.518784709
>>518771482 (OP)
ZUTTED
BUTTED
NUTTED
Anonymous (ID: BBzq46vY) United Kingdom No.518784858
wtf, what a gay ass homo religion
no wonder these guys are footsoldiers for jews
Anonymous (ID: TxNmK4yO) No.518784864
>>518771521
It was consensual
Anonymous (ID: F3LMBCgv) Mexico No.518785061
>>518774432
sandniggers are retarded like that
Anonymous (ID: ctqnBB+E) Croatia No.518785152
>>518771482 (OP)
>getting rapped and poisoned is a blessing from alah
Pirbusparollllahhh the most merciful one alll bahir.
Anonymous (ID: bBJvIe6I) United States No.518785240
>>518771482 (OP)
But what about the fourth witness?
Anonymous (ID: HTZK//gz) United States No.518785984
>>518780681
They don't actually. That's the joke of it all.

Rome has historical records of them killing the people that saw Jesus's ascension. You want me to believe they were willingly executed to keep the joke going? Lmao
Anonymous (ID: HTZK//gz) United States No.518786174
>>518774432
I masturbate to this story a lot.

>Mohammed, dying in pain, asks the woman whose family he just killed, and probably raped, ".....Why?"
lol
Anonymous (ID: YJ5m6zrg) United States No.518786222 >>518788666
>>518773188
And what do the records say about Jews? Yea that's what I thought, Kike. Go burn in an oven.
Anonymous (ID: glznC7ZZ) Spain No.518786422
>>518781165
based
Anonymous (ID: yufvnv3D) No.518788666
>>518786222
fuck jews
Anonymous (ID: DraKf4SC) Italy No.518790953
>>518774211
lol