Thread 518796449

Why wasn't Israel able to completely defeat Gaza?

>>518796449 (OP)
Wrong pic

>>518796449 (OP)
Because faggots keep screaming about
>muh genocide
and posting dead babbys
so Israels backs off

>>518796449 (OP)
>Why wasn't Israel able to completely defeat Gaza?
The orthdox jews, the ones with big hats and lochs, refused to join the war effort, even when drafted.

>>518796449 (OP)
the entire world opposing them and forcing them to keep giving supplies to their enemies.
no other nation in the world has been forced to feed their combatant enemies (outside of prisoners of war) during a war.

>>518796449 (OP)
Bernie did it

>>518797422
No other people has been kicked out of 109 countries

>>518796449 (OP)
Because they are en empire of illusion. As thin as a spider's web.

Modern Israel is a highly divided society. On the one hand you have a bunch of crazed, violent, destructive settlers and religious zionists, who are probably most simialr to the ones who colonized the place from around 1900-1948. On the other hand you have a bunch of Orthodox who just want to live by themselves and leech off the state and part of the deal of the nation's founding was that they could do that. But a huge chunk of modern Israel is a bunch of Germany/San Francisco-tier liberals who just want to be gay faggots and be fully integrated into modern globohomo. Just due to the way the society is and how it is structured, the IDF draws a lot from these people through conscription. It's a small army of people who just want to have managerial jobs and get fucked in the ass. It's a bad fighting force and does not believe iin the Israel project any more than Germans believe in Germany, or Britains believe in Britain.

>>518796449 (OP)
Shes bleeding from her implants.

Anyways it's pretty easy, wars back when were won by genocide.

Be it displacement, deportation, murder, killing all the men and breeding the women, you get the idea.

Then in the 18th or so century most "civilized" empires started having doubts about this, Austro Hungary had utterly failed at Germanizing or Hungarising it's many non Austro/Hungarian kingdom territories. Proving that just like Germany today integration only works if the subject wants to be integrated.

Then After WW2 when the last real war was carried out and actual population displacement happened. No other war really managed to really ethnically cleanse a territory.

And god knows we tried here in Croatia and Serbs in Bosnia etc...

It's as easy as that. If this was the 1930s the jew would come in and push everyoen else out. Egypt would have no choice but to accept the endless refuges or shot them on sight.

By far the biggest mistake of Israel as a country is that they didn't expel all the palestinains when they had the chance. Now over time Israel will cease to exist because nobody wants them there anymore. The WW2 Boomer kids who got drilled into them that Israel is gods lands and whatnot are all on their deathbeds, the new generation actuality hate them. China and the other new world powers literally do not are and prefer the Arabs for their oil. They also aren't infiltrated by Jewish Wealth so there no chance they survive mooching of America in the 2060s

because white faggots cried about dead mudslimes so they had to reign it in before someone did something.

>>518796449 (OP)
Because we're not allowed to win wars.

>>518798217
Thats what happens when you build a state on modern values of being the oppressed minority that needs help because a great injustice was done to them.

>>518796449 (OP)
pressure from international communities/feeling like they are losing both the global left and right. its not question of capability, its simply mercy. israel has the firepower and tactics to completely decimate that place to where it wont be habitable for the next 200 years

>>518797800
He is probably right. Probably for the wrong reasons. But yeah 2050 looks tough for a Israel in it's current form.

>>518798300
they didnt build the state, the british did, specifically Arthur James Balfour

>>518797422
The entire world that they helped to indoctrinate into globohomo. It's their own fault. They made their empire on emotions and empathy. And it fell of emotions and empathy.

>>518796449 (OP)
Because all of their "victories" were Hollywood produced garbage by a "terror cell" paid for trained and equipped by Israel?
And as soon as the natives began fighting back the IDF started shitting their diapers and committing seppuku?

>>518796449 (OP)
The international jew

>>518798463
Yes and Donald Trump is the real president of the US and thats why he can release the Epstein Files tomorrow if he wanted.
Oh wait no he has Mossad blackmailing him or someone close to him.

Same shit.

>>518798199
Yes jews care about what white people think. Lmao even.
>>518798217
You didn’t win the Yom Kippur War? What about the numerous engagements you’ve had over the past 20 years? Lol

>>518796449 (OP)
Dude can you get this brown whore out of my face please? I hate women

>>518796449 (OP)
>oh god!! They're killing us all! For the love of God! Somebody please stop the genocide!
>hehe, pathetic jews couldn't even defeat Gaza. Palestine strong! Palestine undefeated! The jews fear Palestine!

Why are they like this?

>>518798838
Taqiyya

>>518796986
This. I find the apparently popular idea on /pol/ that Hamas won militarily to be really bizarre and detached from reality. They used the strategy very common of weaker guerilla style groups of not wearing uniforms while hiding among the civilian population. And it seems that if it hadn't been for international pressure, even that wouldn't have worked because the Israelis were prepared to commit genocide. But in the end they gave in to international pressure, which Hamas was counting on. This is really basic and common insurgency strategy.

schrödinger's palirat
simultaneously being genocided and unable to be defeated

>>518799203
The Jews could have gone into the tunnels and cleared them out if they really wanted to find them and defeat them, but they were too cowardly and casualty averse to actually face Hamas without a huge aerial advantage.

>>518796449 (OP)
Because they are weak.

>>518799344
Sending your guys into enemy bunkers that could be booby trapped and have all sorts of ambushes or other threats is stupid when you can just bomb them.

>>518799203
>I find the apparently popular idea on /pol/ that Hamas won militarily to be really bizarre and detached from reality
This is like saying the US didn't actually lose the Vietnam war, because they could have just dropped nukes all over Vietnam, if it wasn't for the backlash it would have caused. It doesn't make any sense.

>>518796449 (OP)
Jews can't fight for shit.

>>518798569
Its not a victory if the defeated party doesn't surrender. All these wars were concluded with a UN enforced armistice.

>>518796449 (OP)
>stop mentioning Palestine
>focus only on the open air prison of gaza
If only you posted harder, that would have stopped the kikes

>>518796449 (OP)
THEY DIDNT DRIVE THE BULLDOZERS FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA

OH WELL THERES ALWAYS NEXT TIME

>>518796986
>>518799203
New completely obvious 50IQ shill narrative just dropped. 5.0 on the SARRRR scale.

>>518799756
This isn't anything like Vietnam. Or have you not read the actual peace plan?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70155nked7o

>>518800066
Palis and their supporters are the perfect Platonic forms of cope. >>518800080

>>518796449 (OP)
What happened to "from the river to the sea?"

>>518799203
So according to you, whatever is going on in Afghanistan must be some elaborate hologram display orchestrated by extremely anti semitic chuds who are wreaking havoc across the world with a keyboard, we have clearly won without a scathe.
Got it, jew(You).

>>518800080
>This isn't anything like Vietnam
I am aware, it was a simple hypothetical example to show how stupid your way of thinking is, but you are apparently too dumb to properly engage with hypothetical scenarios as well.

>>518800239
lmao >>518800080

>>518798569
Arabs never consider it a defeat as long as they still survive. They will spin this peace deal as a total Palestinian victory while they were crying about Genocide days before the peace deal was forced on Netanyahu
The only way you can win a war against Muslims is to literally genocide them.
They claim victory in Afghanistan even though they were occupied for 20 years because they weren't all killed off. Iran claimed victory after they lost 3/4 of their upper chain of command in 12 days.
Perhaps we should remember this the next time.
That you either kill every single last one of them, or they'll just treat it as victory, regroup and attack you again.
It is the Muslim way, it's part of their doctrine, it's called a hudna, where they sue for peace when they're weak, but with a dagger behind their back waiting for you to drop your guard then they go after you again. Muhammad used it in Islam's initial conquests.

>>518800154
>nou but with a bunch of extra keys hit
typical npc shitskin response

>>518796449 (OP)
Jews aren’t warriors. They’re schemers, thieves and liars, but they’re not warriors. The jew is too soft for war, which is why they typically make the golem America do it for them.

>>518799203
> I find the apparently popular idea on /pol/ that Hamas won militarily to be really bizarre and detached from reality.
Israel met none of their goals. The Palestinians are still there. They didn’t kill or remove them all from the land. Thus Hamas won.
Simple as.

>>518800271
I'm well aware that war is an extension of politics And didn't say that nations don't lose sometimes even without battlefield defeats. I'm saying two other things.

1. A lot of posts on /pol/ are making it sound like brave Hamas warriors crushed the IDF in battle. Aside from a few ambushes, Hamas was terribly ineffective against the IDF. It's like when people say the US military was crushed by "rice farmers" or "goat herders". No, it was more complicated in that (they still lost though).

2. The big difference between Gaza and Vietnam or Afghanistan is that Israel didn't even lose. Hamas is returning the hostages, Syria fell, Hezbollah is barely hanging on by a thread. Iran was embarrassed, and most importantly Hamas agreed to a peace deal that isn't much more than a surrender.

>>518796449 (OP)
> pop
> pop

>>518800361
So you didn't read the peace agreement. Got it.

All that toy. Yet. Can't even take a tiny strap of land.

>>518800595
>met none of their goals.
>>518800606

>>518796449 (OP)
Because that was never the goal. Israeli forces can level the place and kill everyone there at any time, and before anyone says "not without international outcry," what sort of outcry would there be if the gazans are all dead?

I'm not an expert on internal Israeli politics but this all slow walked, so either the strategy is to do all of this by bites here and there or this is stalling to keep Bibi in power. What always surprises me about Israeli strategies is that the primary push methods to the goal are stupid and should not work, but somehow they get everything they want anyway by using their various leverages from the background. Could just be a lack of skill or concern about optics. After all, what is a better dick move than putting it out there unvarnished and saying "Yeah, and what are you going to do about it?"

>>518796986
they just ignored everyone and did it anyway, what are you talking about you dumb nigger

>>518796449 (OP)
Because kikes are stupid monkeys and are very cowardly arming them to the teeth with western tech doesn't change that fact. All they did was lash out like a stupid monkey when it's banana get stolen

>>518800765
The win condition for Israel was to completely ethnically cleanse Gaza. You didn’t do that, you lost, jew.

>>518800606
>Aside from a few ambushes, Hamas was terribly ineffective against the IDF
How so? They managed to literally keep the IDF and Israel from achieving any of their stated goals for 737 days, while literally being a bunch of low IQ goatfuckers with no real training and outdated weapons and tech, that were packed into a tiny area like sardines.

>The big difference between Gaza and Vietnam or Afghanistan is that Israel didn't even lose
Israel has permanently lost all its good-will and good-standing reputation, which is much bigger than any actual physical war. All the old people across the world that has spent the last 50 years propping up and blindly supporting Israel in every single way, no matter what they do/did, are slowly dying off, and all the new generations have zero respect or support for Israel after this. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel suddenly finds themselves to be all alone with zero support from the US/EU in just 10-15 years.

>>518796449 (OP)
Israel only knows how to fight children and women.

Because they think they need their muzzie enemies next door for propaganda purposes.
Pallies have been very useful in the last decades giving jews constant victim status in the Western media.
>Oh woe is us, the muzzies are once again killing us, send money pls.
But that narrative is dead and the jew's special position of being global victims is quickly being erased.
They should have realized this and just nerve gassed the entire area and been done with the problem, as they won't be getting any sympathy points in the future and any attacks by Israel will just hurt their image more.

>>518800606
For someone they didnt crush in battle a lot sure appeared after ceasefire was announced. They lost all land gained in the war and basically have to go back to the wall as the world is now focusing on them so they can't do stupid shit.

>>518800295
>Iran claimed victory after they lost 3/4 of their upper chain of command in 12 days
That was actually a bad tactical move by Israel because it showed they were not in command of their bullshit. I would consider it a loss because part of Israel's advantage is that they are seen as untouchable, but they lost key structures in Tel Aviv, the missile defense was insufficient and costly to replace.

One of the most important considerations there is whether the US will intervene to protect the Israelis if they take such an action again. I would say right now, unquestionably the US would intervene if things turned badly enough against Tel Aviv, but will that be the case next year?

>>518801005
It was not. Netanyahu only started saying they would do that after Hamas rejected the ceasefire (almost exactly the same as the one they just accepted) in early summer. The win condition was getting the hostages back and weakening Hamas and their allies. Hamas are the ones that caved after Netanyahu showed he was serious about taking all of Gaza and killed the negotiators in Qatar and that the international response was "strong concern". The problem for Hamas is that it was looking like Israel was on the verge of committing to actual genocide and that any international response would be too little too late. Their key strategy just wasn't good enough. Maybe if Gaza was larger, or if someone less ruthless than Netanyahu were running Israel, it might have worked.

>>518800783
They want the land and to force Muslims between Israel and the rest of the west so Muslims take out the west for them

>>518801366
They lost 2 guys in upper command the 3rd survived and appeared after the war. The poster you are responding to is a dumbass kike who doesn't actually know anything.

>>518801042
Once again, international pressure to not commit genocide kept Israel from taking over. Hamas armed forces did not.

>>518801274
Please read the peace agreement. Please inform yourself just a little about what just happened. I posted a link above to a BBC article that has the full agreement. This was not a ceasefire Hamas would have made if they thought they could hold out much longer.

>>518800606
>Iran was embarrassed
This is a jewish shill

>>518801411
Good thing you are here to layout the insides of the IDF, because you are totally a conscript Master Champion Dark Lord or whatever the fuck your ghoulish kike mordor ranks literally translate to in english

>>518801692
You're not living in reality.

>>518800606
I once read a quote, Israel's greatest fortune is having the Arabs as enemies.

I think we saw that this time around, especially Hezbollah which proved to just be a waste of money for its benefactors, totally useless and ineffective. However, I don't think Iran was embarrassed, I think Israel was embarrased, their much vaunted impenetrable defense shields were just shattered and they had to go into full media blackout (which of course our media was happy to oblige) to not show the damage.

Hamas, I mean, I don't even know exactly what Hamas is, I do know it's been funded by Israel for a long time as a means to keep Palestinians divided, what we saw in the fight though was Israel dropping gazillions of bombs on a defenseless city while really struggling on the ground. Their ground offensives did not go well.

>>518799344
Americans cleared tunnels in Vietnam. Jews are just to pussy to do what they need to do to win.

>>518796449 (OP)
pisreal is hamas you retard!

>>518801849
You are living in a jewish fairy tale if you believe "Iran was embarrassed" in any way.
Iran hit Israel's stock exchange and the next day they were crying to daddy Trump to start bombing them. They got rocked hard by Iran.
They started shit they couldn't win and had to capitulate to Trump's decision, they couldn't drag him into a war and some half assed bombings were done where the US let them know in advance and then Iran retaliated in the exact same way by attacking that empty Qatari base, no war as the kikes wanted.
>but Iran got bombed
So did Gaza, and they didn't give up. Israel was bombed for a few days and was ready to start WW3 by desperately trying to drag the US into it.

>>518801451
>The poster you are responding to is a dumbass kike
I know, I felt like pointing out that there is an expiration date coming up and these actions are accelerating it. Astroturfing is not going to fix this, nor should it.

>>518802177
>They started shit they couldn't win and had to capitulate to Trump's decision, they couldn't drag him into a war
You misunderstood. Trump wanted war with Iran, he was tweeting about regime change. It was only when the polls came back and showed how universally unpopular his bombing of Iran was that he backed down I was. Interestingly Charlie Kirk allegedly fought hard against Trump to not get involved.

>>518801966
I think Iran losing much of its high command, air force on the ground, and setback to its nuclear program were pretty bad for them. But you're right that it wasn't one sided. Hezbollah was definitely the weakest link. They got trashed in Lebanon and had been major supporters of Assad, who fell soon after. I'm not sure that I fully understand Israel's strategy in Gaza. I think being extremely casualty averse may have been their biggest issue.

>>518802403
At this point I can't think of why they keep bothering trying to fit in here to push their stinking shit take, the rest of the world hates them now and they are resorting to removing emojis in goymedia to prevent normies from calling them out for being kikes in their own turf.
what the fuck makes them think they have a chance here?

>>518801849
>You're not living in reality.
Iran showed that they are able to strike literally anywhere into Israel with any of their missiles and rockets, and drones. It was so bad for Israel that they literally needed the combined help of multiple countries such as USA, UK, France, Germany, Jordan, etc. to help mitigate the attack and a bunch still went through anyway.

It also exposed how the Iron Dome and David's Sling are actually completely useless if there ever was to be a real attack on Israel. That's why they needed to beg USA for the multiple THAAD systems.

And let's not forget how Israel was all like "Iran is going to pay for this. The attack on them will be very hard, very devastating and they won't know what hit them" and then Israel ended up pussying out like crazy because all the other countries told them that they would not help them. So it ended up just being them dropping a few bombs on some AA systems from F35 jets and some "bunker buster" drops on the opening of 1 nuclear facility, which also ended up not even doing much besides slow down Iran's nuclear project by maybe a couple of months.

>>518796449 (OP)
The IDF collapsed because jews can't fight

>>518802856
>Hezbollah was definitely the weakest link. They got trashed in Lebanon
The IDF was only able to push 10km into Lebanon before they reached a point where they were completely incapable of proceeding any further. After they had been in that stalemate for ages they decided to give up and just started bombing the shit out of the north of Lebanon from planes.

You keep having this delusional idea that the IDF is some mighty force, but time and time again we see how absolutely incompetent they are when it comes to actual fighting. All they really know how to do is bomb places from afar. They don't know know how to actual fight if the enemy is able to fight back in any way.

>>518796449 (OP)
They did win. They just can't market it as such. You think palestenians will "just" rebuild? Or live in refugee tents for 15 years? No. They will leave themselves. Gaza is no more. Get real bitchboi

>>518802177
>Americans try to stop them 5 times before they get to israel
Okay I didn't think my hatred for israel could grow any more but it just did.

>>518802177
You can tell right away the author of this only has one set of grandparents.

>>518802856
I don't think Iran losing its high command was as much of a problem, they were able to recover quickly and strike back. I still remember the media being triumphant and then 24 hours later dead silent as Iran started BTFOing them. I was listening to an interview immediately after the attack with an Iranian and he was like, "look, these are soldiers, they know what they signed up for, they died, they will be replaced and Iran will respond." Their military isn't made up of faggots and women like ours is.

And even with Lebanon Israel had a goal of pushing up towards a river and I don't even think they got close to it, as weak and shitty as Hezbollah was, the IDF couldn't meet their goal in Lebanon OR Gaza City. It really is a shit tier fighting force.

>>518803195
they are quite literally only alive because of our tax payers
they gloat and boast when in reality they should be bowed, kissing our feet and thanking us for babying them while they are embarrassed, asking for forgiveness

>>518803135
They weren't trying to take over Lebanon, just neutralize Hezbollah as a threat so that they could focus on Hamas. They were very successful in this. The pager operation combined with the aerial bombing forced Hezbollah to agree to a ceasefire with Israel, and weakened them so much that they weren't able to assist Assad and are now suffering a crackdown by the Lebanese army, which had previously been impotent against them. Hezbollah hasn't been completely destroyed, but they're in very bad shape.

>>518803845
Moving the goalposts has been documented here a very long time ago, just to save you the embarrasment of being jewish here, buddy.

>>518796449 (OP)
>Why wasn't Israel able to completely defeat Gaza?
Because jews are dumb cowardly niggers.

>>518803487
Maybe you're right about Iran. I think Lebanon was a success for Israel though.

>>518804034
Syria fell and Lebanon is launching an operation to disarm Hezbollah right now. They got fucked up.

>>518796449 (OP)
Wasn't it?
It has obliterated them, got all its hostages back, humiliated its allies as an aside, got Hamas to agree to sod off and then some.

The difference between you and them was always that they have the power to genocide you but don't make an attempt, whereas you make an attempt to genocide them but lack the power to.

>>518796449 (OP)
Allah's will

>>518797422
>outside of prisoners of war
gaza is literally a giant prisoner of war camp

>>518804237
>well i got my shit kicked in in gaza repeating our vietnam/gwot, but i won EVERYWHERE else
>and then i woke up

I'm tired of everyone here trashing on Hezbollah. They defeated Israel in 2000 and 2003, which is a far better track record than any other arab armies. They clearly were skilled for a time, it's just that sabotage completely fucked them since half the people in Lebanon hate them and were very willing to rat them out or hand them pocket bombs disguised as pagers. All in all the fact that they were still able to decimate the IDF on the ground proved that their chain of comman had some chops left in it. Obviously them no longer being able to recieve huge shipments of missile/drone parts through Syria (with the consent of the government, they still occasionally smuggle stuff through there) is a major setback, they're still far too powerful for the Lebanese army to disarm without causing a civil war.

If u go to war there will always be somebody with something to say about it. Dont u kniw how WW1 started anon ?
U need to be allowed to win a war or strong enough to take everyone out.
Snd the finny thing about that is the stronger u are the more people will work together to take u down. Just like English domination over the workd ended. Who do u think supplied their enemies ? Their rivals like the french.

>>518804237
Taking out Hezbollah was successful, I agree, but their operation to seize and hold land was not.

>>518800066
SAAARRRR YOU MUST DO THE NEEDFUL AND HATE THE ENEMIES OF THE JEWWWWS

>>518803845
>They weren't trying to take over Lebanon, just neutralize Hezbollah as a threat so that they could focus on Hamas. They were very successful in this
It's painfully obvious from every post you make that you are completely clueless and have no actual idea about anything. The goal with invading Lebanon was to destroy Hezbollah's military capabilities to be able to strike into the north of Israel, and then create a buffer zone so that the Israelis could return to their homes in the north.

Israel had ~100k people who were evacuated from the north who couldn't return to their homes because Hezbollah was constantly able to fire shit at them, and even now a full year after the ceasefire(which the IDF were desperate for, because they couldn't stop Hezbollah head-on) you still have 50% of those evacuees saying that they likely won't return to their homes, because they still don't feel safe to do so. So by all means, it has been an absolute failure to attempt to secure the north if the people who lived there previously don't feel safe to return.

>>518804509
They literally bought the pagers themselves.
There's a reason only they got hurt and the rest of the world just laughed at them for trying to meme it into being "terrorism" when it doesn't get more combatant-targetted than letting them distribute it to their own.

Last i looked they weren't in half as good a state as you describe them either.

>>518804509
>everyone here is a jew
i suppose you are right

>>518796449 (OP)
Despite the turkish delusional lropaganda, the turkish hold no authority on the strip and weren't allowed to be involved, and fucking dont have the right to say about this since at least 1917 where the turkish scoundrels attempt to invade this mameluks territory was decisively beaten at the battle of beersheva .

>>518802856
>I think Iran losing much of its high command, air force on the ground, and setback to its nuclear program were pretty bad for them.
Losing their high command, air force, and suffering an alleged setback to their nuclear capabilities is nearly meaningless if they were able to strike back as hard as they did. A nation that is able to survive a surprise decapitation strike (with the help of assets working from the inside on top of that) and manage to force their adversary to ask for a ceasefire is a nation that is capable. Israel is clearly unable to survive a war against Iran on its own, yet Bibi will need another one sooner or later to avoid jailtime. How sad XD

>>518799285
t. rhinoplasty patient

>>518804917
>"Decapitation strike"
Seriously nigger?

>"Stop warring on Gaza! Or we war!"
>Israel doesn't stop in Gaza
>Barrage Israel with missiles, receive barrage back
>Israel doesn't stop in Gaza, Israel declares war on Iran instead
>In twelve days they dismantle it to the point freedom doritos freely fly in to poke holes in their mountains unopposed
>Iran and Israel make peace in 12 days
>Israel doesn't stop in Gaza

Nice cope faggot.

>>518796449 (OP)
they used the tactic of MY HECKIN BABYRINOOS NOO / genocide bleating to succesfully get all the hipster libtards and muslim dispora to annoy everyone in the world

>>518805243
Yeah, biggest redpilling event on islam in modern history.

>>518804917
>Israel is clearly unable to survive a war against Iran on its own
This is the biggest takeaway from all of this. There was such a huge shift in attitude from Israel and its leadership once they saw that they were struggling against Iran's attack, even with the help of more than a handful of other countries helping them intercept and shoot down rockets, missiles and drones.

It exposed that the Iron Dome + David's Sling are nearly useless against real attacks and mainly propaganda. It exposed that Israel is completely dependent on the help of others when it comes to an actual all-out war. It exposed that Israel's leadership doesn't actually have any idea what they are doing. And finally it exposed that Israel couldn't even really hit back at Iran in the way that they wanted because of a mix of incompetency and unwillingness from other countries to support them in an all-out war against Iran.

>>518796449 (OP)
I JUST JACKED OFF TO THE DUDE IN OP'S PIC

>>518796449 (OP)
>Why wasn't israel able to completely defeat Gaza?
amalek marches on

>>518797422
And what about their control of the United States forcing you guys to give them supplies to Israel? Paid by you fat fucks? You fucking moron. I wish someone would arm Palestine so they’d be equals, but Arabs are fuck ups.

>>518796449 (OP)
if u stop the conflict then the gibs stop as well
this grift has been known for a long time

>>518805468
The US spends magnitudes more on the islamic world than on Israel.
All the money in the world won't make the incompetent competent.

>>518805544
And then Trump happened.

>>518805326
The weird thing about this is no one’s talking about China’s rearming of Iran. There’s literally a new train rail that opened up during the war between Beijing and Tehran and it’s going constant 24 seven. Trust me the next one’s gonna be a banger. Absolutely no one mentions this new direct train that is supposed to be for trade, but I’m pretty sure a couple of those trains have arms

>>518805560
The muslim countries we bankroll in the middle east (Egypt and Jordan) we only do so to bribe them into never attacking Israel you dumbass lmfao.

>>518802868
They must continue because to give up would admit a total loss of confidence in their own survival. Admittedly admirable, but ultimately a hopeless endeavor.

>>518804686
>you still have 50% of those evacuees saying that they likely won't return to their homes
How many Israelis were rendered homeless or destitute during the never-ending land grabs and losses Israel has been engaged in?

>>518805161
Don't make it so obvious you're here to push an agenda achi! This is bigger than Gaza, this is about Israel's inability to exist without destroying or subverting all nations in the world. Iran's ability to turn parts of Tel-Aviv and Haifa (including numerous other military installations) into parking lots despite being hit first demonstrates that there was a lack of intel on Iran's capabilities. Even worse is when you kikes shamefully ran to us for help and Trump had to set up some theatre with Iran to absolve you of shame LOL

>>518805326
>Israel is completely dependent on the help of others
Yup, the curtain was torn asunder and we see Israel's strength is totally dependent on Mossad shenanigans here.

>>518805560
Sure they fucking do. I’m sure USA runs to arabs aid with B-52 bombers when you’re getting their ass kicked. You really think it’s only $6 billion. They literally give them almost $1 trillion in military aid. You’re a fucking moron.

>>518796449 (OP)
Who fucking cares, Trump wins again. Left wing pigs have been humiliated AGAIN.

Total Aryan Victory. Genocide over, mass deportations go, Antifa fags in bodybags. Let's fucking go baby!

And reminder: If you countersignalled Trump even once, you are a KEK. You were WRONG. I was fucking right, you were all wrong, you've got shit in your mouth and between your teeth. Get fucked faggots. Piss drinkers WRECKED FOREVER.

>>518805676
Uh huh, because their earlier attempts worked out so well for them...?
And also they are still receiving that greater sum while sum while still achieving nothing comparable.

>>518799203
What use is it for israel to destroy hamas? They need hamas to keep their militairy budget from usa

>>518805763
How did Trump win? This war should’ve been over long long time ago. Known as stupid as you fat fuck Americans. The world sees us as a Gaza victory and God as fucking small and useless and they just stale mates one of the biggest armies in the planet.

>>518805734
>Don't make it so obvious you're here to push an agenda achi!
Maybe take your own advice Ahmed?
Projection and lies are a poor answer to reality.

>>518805763
Trump didn't win shit.

>>518805746
Pretty stupid to rely on numbers you then undermine the credibility of.

>>518805961
Trump literally stareddown both Israel and Iran and now forged the best attempt at genuine peace in the ME yet.

>>518805937
hahaha, I accept your concession havan shli

>>518805844
That's not even true unless you also count propping up the failed US supported governments in Iraq and Afghanistan as "military aid"

>>518806133
Sure you do Ahmed, good on you for admitting defeat like this.

>>518801631
Statement still stands kike. If you destroyed them they sure popped up fast.

>>518806061
if you dont think Israel is going to break the ceasefire and then try to blame KHAMAS in a few weeks I don't know what to tell you. We've seen this play out so many times.

>>518805734
>They must continue because to give up would admit a total loss of confidence in their own survival. Admittedly admirable, but ultimately a hopeless endeavor.
what a fucking nightmare, always losing until everything goes black

>>518806007
>>518806061
>less than 60 seconds between posts
Looks like the JIDF is now supplying their hasbara agents with 4chan passes. Interesting.

>>518806150
>The biggest US supported islamic failures don't count!
Sure, that way you can just keep not counting until only the things you want to see "exist".
Alas reality consists of everything you dislike too.

>>518806254
Just like Iran they seethe very hard when they get wrecked and try to shift the viewpoint of their ass raping.

>>518806247
Like that time Hamas ran the clock on a temporary agreement and tried to blame Israel...?
They agreed before the eyes of the world to disband, if they don't the entire world empowers Israel's wrath.

The actual acrual world mind you, not the islamic cope variety.

>>518806254
Interesting, i didn't know that was possible without a pass.
Maybe it just does that once it knows you're not a bot.

>>518806378
Disband..... Yet now do parades in gaza. Do you guys like even read news?

>>518796449 (OP)
Because Trump stepped in to stop it.

>>518806456
Yes, we know they intend not to honor the agreement.
That's why they wanted the hostages out and the world to bear witness.

Breaking the agreement is breaking the truce, so either it goes willingly or its nightmare resumes.

>>518796993
Most Jews in Israel are "orthodox". The "Haredim" are who you are thinking of. Some are willing to fight and have fought well. But some have this crazy idea that even during a war they don't have to fight, but can study Talmud and other scripture all day. But the Talmud says they must fight.
Actually I suspect many are leftists in pretty clothes. But now they are being drafted, and they can choose to fight, or leave the country, either is fine.

>>518805857
You are a fucking moron. You don’t know what’s going on in Israel. He promised that he would destroy Hamas and he failed the people see him as a failure.

>>518806254
>4chan passes
theres a website mirroring 4chan that basically allows you to change flags, ids and bypass the timer, effectively evading bans.
merely mentioning it gets you banned
something about embedding other files in .png
its okay because you can always tell a jew apart once they say
>we
>anything regarding the anus, especially describing sexual fetishes involving it

>>518806596
What agreement? I don't think Israel is signing the agreement, but Trump and as he says, the other richest nations in the world.
The original agreement was offered a couple weeks ago, and the hostages had to be produced then. But Hamas thought they could delay and wiggle and squirm, and they didn't produce all 20 hostages alive anyway, so the deal is off.

>>518806456
These guys are fucking retarded. There was like a three day mini civil war in Gaza and Hamas is firmly in control and killed all their enemies. These guys are just fucking retarded most likely Jews in America. Israel failed with Hamas. And once again they came crying to the states to bail them out. Imagine having access to the best weaponry in the world and unlimited US funds and still losing and Iran is still gonna get a bomb.

>>518806778
We'll see, but I think he'll sweep the elections. The Hostage Families Forum will now be on his side. His opposition is what -- just Arabs?

>>518806875
They produced the living hostages though, and are currently overhanding the dead.

Hamas can buy time all it wants, it's still fucked whether the deal gets broken or not. The only difference is whether the individuals get out alive.

>>518806916
Iran will try to do something fast, because they're running out of water. Like, buildings are literally sinking. They need peace so that someone (probably Israel) can help them pump up their aquifers.
If you need tech support in the middle east, guess where you go.

>>518806249
>always losing
This is literally all Jewish history is. Getting kicked around whole CONTINENTS like a damn soccer ball because they can't (won't) fit in anywhere. I personally believe they made it all the way to ancient Japan and got killed there too, just look up the 'Tora-no-Maki' and how Tengu are represented. Pretty interesting coincidences with the long noses and being bringers of calamity lol

>start war
>get killed
>all your leadership gets wiped out
>libtards cry over the child soldiers and journalist doctors in gaza
>ceasefire
>hostages return
>israelies celebrates and withdraws immediately as they said they would if hostages were returned
>libtards commie still cry, global antifada still cries

>>518807010
Sure it is. 2 million people marching in Italy against Jews, millions all over the world. Sure Hamas is fucked. You’re fucking completed other more or just a fucking nerdy juice sitting in the basement scared to go out because the arabs on your street will slaughter you.

>>518796475
Would

>>518807144
Holy fuck you, Americans are Jude up to the point where u can’t even think straight

>>518807010
The deal is not broken if there is no deal. But the living ones are out, as I understand it. Hamas and the PA got back a lot of their favorite terrorists and other friends.

>>518807188
Yeah they never cared about Palestinians just their faggotty delusion.

>>518807199
We had 250k in Amsterdam the other day, as someone dryly commented: "Wow, that's like less than a tenth of the support Geert Wilders has.".

Loud minorities are only good at whining and whinging, they always fafo.

>>518807276
Did you spend a minute checking what I said?

>>518797422
Well Gaza is pretty much a giant concentration camp, with a few naughty tunnels that only few, mainly militants and smugglers, can use so of course Israel have to feed them or they would be responsible for their starvation.

>>518807308
Sure buddy, go tell that to all the world leaders currently gathered in Egypt.

And all i'm seeing in that regard are 2000 Palestinians they might want to not get killed by restarting their retarded war, but that Israel would love to kill if given reason to.

>>518807144
2 more weeks

>>518807418
You're joking right? Why is it Israel's problem?

>>518807472
They're making a deal. But if Israel doesn't sign it ...

>>518807388
I am glad you went to Iran and decided to speak about what was going on there at the behest of jews, not only that you are totally a structural engineer telling the truth here.

>>518807589
Because our retarded libtards islamic fifth column has abused our power to make it Israel's problem.

Thus ironically only dragging out and worsening the suffering there.

>>518796449 (OP)
It's because Jews aren't real men

>>518807418
400 miles of tunnels
and the "palestinians" ELECTED Hamas to rule them.
They were lining the streets cheering as hostages were brought back.

>>518807657
I am an engineer, but I have not been to Iran and have no plans to go.

>>518807647
Seriously?
They already signed and the USA controls them anyway.

>>518807589
Because they created the concentration camp and they are actively, and have been for many years, blockading it.

>>518804372
the biggest wall separating Gaza?
Belongs to Egypt.
They don't want them, because they're nothing but trouble.
Jordan doesn't want them either.
Both Egypt and Jordan have had leaders assassinated by "palestinians"

>>518807772
Seems wise desu, they kill even their own over imagined aid to Israel currently.
Because of course they were winning so well in that war.

>>518807694
It is no longer Israel's problem. Israel doesn't have to feed every random poor place in the world, and it doesn't have to feed Gaza. It sounds like rich Arab countries will be handling it from now on.

>>518807898
Seems more sensible desu.

>>518807589
yeah i dont get it either. when you're laying siege to a city state for decades, why would you feed them? doesnt that defeat the purpose?

>>518796449 (OP)
Because they don't want to.

It's an open air animal sacrificial chamber. They use this chamber to assure tax money from its slave colonies like the United States.

They pretend this open air prison, where they occassionaly genocide the prison population, is some kind of existential threat to them.

Similar to how their Temple required sacrifices to maintain their religion.

It is the most diabolical demonic State ever conceived and has taken a few millennia to root its cult into all facets of the globe.

>>518807789
Israel agreed to a different deal about 2 weeks ago.
Did they really sign the deal that Trump is bringing to Egypt?

>>518797422
Retard they are prisoners of war. And they invited the kikes in to be flipped violently. This war was going on for way too long to sit and watch. Whatever reason no countries stepped in when Israelis attack them is so fucking beyond me. Irish are cuckflag now

>>518807965
because they weren't laying siege. Maybe they should have, but they didn't.
They fought literally the nicest competent war in history, which cost IDF lives. Now hopefully they can just ignore the part of Gaza they won't control militarily going forward.

>>518796449 (OP)
Because God regardless of creed will always side with the innocent.

It ain't over they have been fighting since the colonisation in the 40

Scrolled this whole thread. Not a single Irish flag to be found.
Ireland is fucking devastated

>>518808124
>prisoners of war
Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005.
nobody seems to remember this because you're all zoomers.
Nobody seems to remember there are reasons for hating Muslims aside from "you're a jew"
You're either Muslim yourself so you have this distorted "we dindu nuffins" view of yourself, or you're a zoomer and just don't remember how many terrorist attacks Muslims do when you don't have your military balls deep in them keeping their attention in the Middle East.

>>518808001
I'm glad the internet and social media, for all its faults, has awakened the world to the JQ. They can buy Tiktok or whatever, but what's done is done. They've lost the youth of the West and so too their future. I wonder where they'll run when their states fractures in a few years? After Iran made a mockery of their air defense, I realized that a large chunk of boomers will live to see Israel disappear and be remembered and immortalized as a blight on the earth.

>>518808433
The JQ in the land of the Jews, is that it is all for the Jews. Temple on the Temple mount, not some mosque at a place Muhammad could never have visited.

>>518808196
>they werent layign siege
>they just stopped 99.99% of all trade, all quality building materials, and anything of note that could be used to enrich and maintain their society at all
>wtf why are they assailing us?

>>518800295
To be fair to the Taliban.
They did win.
The USA failed to achieve its objectives or hold the territory.

>>518808646
They couldn't even import potato chips because the Israelis said the aluminium in the bags could be used for rockets.

>>518808646
trying to intercept weapons, but the Palis cleverly found up they could dig up plumbing pipes and turn them into rockets.
Then complain the place they ruined was now an "open air prison". You broke it, you bought it.

>>518808634
It's over kike. Have fun being torn apart by arabs and niggers for centuries to come! Imagine being dumb enough to piss off not just 2B muslims, but even your own benefactors here lmfao

>>518808872
Do you not see how evil you people are?
Do you not see that for outsiders, who don't think jews are chosen or special in any way, your behavior is as evil as can be.

>>518808433
Thing is... no matter how many people know, nothing changes.

The jews maintain all seats of power. They control the money supply, banks, corporate industries, government seats, and operate the secret societies, and by proxy military industrial complexes. Their control of schools isnt as big as it used to be tho, since that was a narrative institution.
Even the cunts who know and have power to resist, don't, because their lives were made comfortable by bribery thru those same mechanisms.
They have only lost control of the narrative, and at this point in history they dont really care anyway, they pretend to, as if you are somehow resisting them by speaking out...

The social media thing is cool and all, not denying you that at all.
I never expected the jews would give the goyim such a leash.
They did not back in 2005 in the early social media times. It was all underground internet typing before that point and only a small group of people were aware, or able to resist the programming thru the schools and media systems and walk the general public.

>>518808872
delusional. just glass the place already you fucking coward retards

>>518809023
No I don't. There are vast Arab land, but those Palis that were kicked out of Jordan and Egypt expect a piece of Israel too. That's nonsense. Give them some land in Sweden if you love them so much.

>>518809150
We could have. But we didn't.

>>518809077
>The jews maintain all seats of power.
Only by controlling the flow of information so tightly. Now that this is gone and people know of the problem, we can take steps to kick this brood of vipers out. I'm not fedposting or advocating for violence at all and indeed you don't actually need ANY extreme measures to resist.
Simply informing people of what has been happening as the left and far-right have done has already awakened the youth. It's really that simple. Tell your friends and family about the issue and they'll come around. I still remember how just 5-10, let alone 20 years ago, even mentioning Jewish power in this country was a taboo. Now it's mainstream because we are winning.

>>518809077
So this is why Trump said he was going to Egypt to sign a deal with the other richest nations in the world, and Israel is not attending.

>>518809545
You were such simpletons that you had to get your information from us? Can't you perceive any useful information independently without our help?
The Arabs, that you think would help you, will laugh at such a pathetic one as yourself.

>>518796449 (OP)
mandatory conscription means your military is just the bell curve

imagine half of all people wanted to serve and the other half didn’t, now assume only 70% of those people end up serving, square cube law indicates that poor performance is magnified more than strong performance at scale

in the end you have the deaf leading the blind into a huge mess

I honestly thought they did too much destruction on an operational scale, concrete dust is fucking murder on armor systems, the merkavas were screeching from week one

>>518796986
>The posting of dead babies did it
>Not the the killing of babies
Jesus Christ dude I hope every single one of you tone deaf kikes die.

>>518808747
it's a little more nuanced than that.
we'd occupied the country for over a decade, achieved our goals of taking out Al Qaeda in the region and eliminating Bin Laden.
What we failed at was nation building, building a democratic nation that the people would support and would stand as a US ally after we left.
Which, we couldn't just occupy them forever, we had to plan a dismount. That'd been in the works toward the end of Trump's term, he wanted to leave Afghanistan, but yes the Taliban hadn't been totally wiped out. Trump negotiated with the Taliban and we didn't have a single casualty for over a year, and we were planning on leaving in 2021.
Biden got into office, decided that that timetable was too short and tried to extend it, without negotiating with the Taliban to do so.
So our remaining troops and staff were still there, past the initial agreed upon deadline that Trump had made with the Taliban. The Taliban hadn't accepted Biden's extended timetable, so they began making moves. We'd been slowly drawing down and had less than 5k troops left in Afghanistan, and we weren't going to be stopping the Taliban advances.
We expected the Afghanistan National Army, as Biden boasted, 300,000 strong, trained by the US, armed by the US, to hold off the Taliban.
Well they didn't. they either laid down their arms, or joined the Taliban.
Then the Afghani government we'd tried to set up, fell like a house of cards, and their president fled with a bunch of money.
In essence, our "loss" was not a military failing, it was failing to pick credible "friends" to run the country, and sticking around when we'd agreed to leave months before, and that part was on Biden.

>>518809714
Seething about the final and imminent demise of Israel and Judaism will not save your people. You may find salvation if you beg for forgiveness from the world, though. Especially if you beg the Palestinians for their forgiveness and help them rebuild.

Why are there so many jews on 4chan again? There's always this ebb and flow of jews.