Thread 518797556

Most Americans have ZERO clue this system exists. While you're forced to pay FICA taxes that fund Social Security and Medicare, foreign graduates on student work visas get 3 YEARS of this tax break in our most competitive job markets - keeping cash that's automatically taken from your paycheck.

THE MATH THAT HURTS AMERICANS:
• Tech salary: $200,000 (Google, Amazon, Meta)
• American graduate: Pays $13,818/year in FICA taxes $186,182 take-home
• Foreign graduate on OPT/STEM OPT: Pays $0 FICA taxes for their work period $200,000 take-home
• That's $13,818 EXTRA CASH per year $41,454 total advantage during their work authorization

THE REAL HOUSING IMPACT:
This isn't about future benefits - this is about immediate buying power. This is a different battle from the institutional investors buying up properties - this is about individual buyers with a government-given cash advantage outbidding you directly. In tech hubs like Austin, Seattle, and Bay Area:

>Even 100 foreign workers with this advantage = $4.1 MILLION in extra buying power
>They target the same starter homes and condos as American graduates
>Your mandatory FICA contributions become their down payment advantage
>They get liquid cash now while your money goes to government programs

THE BOTTOM LINE:
They pay income tax like you do, but keep the 7.65% FICA tax that's automatically taken from your paycheck.

Whether Social Security will exist for millennials is uncertain - but their $41,454 head start in today's housing market is absolutely certain. That cash advantage lets them outbid you on homes RIGHT NOW.

This is why you're getting outbid.
This is why housing feels impossible.
This is the immediate cash advantage they don't want you to know about.

>>518797556 (OP)
Here's a foreign worker at a tech company (Oracle) asking a simple question:

>"I won the H1B visa lottery, but I have 2 more years of my student work permit. Should I DELAY getting my real work visa to avoid paying $10,000 in taxes?"

The comments tell you everything:

>"Just don't file it and save on taxes."
>"Deciding to apply later... can activate H1B few years later while still holding on to the lottery spot. Sorry."

THE SCAM, IN THEIR OWN WORDS:

1. They win the visa in the lottery.
2. They then INTENTIONALLY DELAY getting the visa for years.
3. Why? To keep their special "no payroll tax" status.
4. They openly discuss how to dodge thousands in taxes that YOU are forced to pay.

They see your Social Security and Medicare taxes as an optional fee to be avoided. They see our immigration system as a game to be manipulated.

This isn't a secret conspiracy. They're bragging about it right out in the open. They call it "saving on taxes." You call it getting screwed.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/got-h1b-in-first-year-skip-applying-to-avoid-fica-p3w52rnv

>>518797586
Here's a foreign worker on Reddit, complaining about finally having to pay the same taxes as you:

>"I just won the H1B visa lottery. Now that I have to start paying Social Security and Medicare taxes like an American, should I ask my company for a RAISE to cover it?"

The responses are even more telling:

>"Don't mention FICA... Just ask for a raise based on your performance... you can bring this up on the side."
>"Correct, nothing wrong in asking... but expect BIG eyerolls from HR. Gotta pay US taxes now unfortunately."

FICA stands for the Federal Insurance Contributions Act. This U.S. federal law mandates that employers withhold taxes from employee paychecks to fund Social Security and Medicare programs.

LET THAT SINK IN:

1. They get a multi-year tax break you never see.
2. The moment they're forced to contribute like everyone else, their first thought is, "How do I make my American employer cover my new tax bill?"
3. They strategize on how to hide the real reason and pretend it's about "performance."

They see paying into the system that funds our retirees and healthcare as a personal financial loss to be recovered. Not a civic duty. Not the cost of living in a first-world country. A pay cut.

This is the entitled mindset you're competing against.

https://www.reddit.com/r/h1b/comments/1cmqwc0/salary_increase_because_fica_taxes/

>>518797627
SOURCES (BECAUSE THEY'LL CALL YOU A CONSPIRACY THEORIST):

• IRS Tax Rule: F-1 students exempt from FICA taxes for 5 years
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes

• USCIS OPT Rules: 12 months standard + 24 month STEM extension = 3 years work authorization
https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-and-exchange-visitors/optional-practical-training-for-f-1-students

• Social Security Administration: Confirms 7.65% FICA tax rate for employees
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/taxRates.html

• National Association of Realtors: Foreign buyers purchased $53.3 billion in US property (2023)
https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-statistics/research-reports/2023-profile-of-international-buyers-in-u-s-residential-real-estate

• Bloomberg: Indians are top foreign homebuyers in US, driven by tech workers
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-01/indians-are-biggest-foreign-buyers-of-us-homes-as-workers-flock

>>518797627
They are not workers bud. They are gay niggers who are sucking diabetic jewish diarrhea dumps. US tech companies do not produce anything, other than quantifying online interactions into data that gay nigger government entities can use and abuse.

>>518797872
Doesn't change the fact that they are coming over here by the truckloads.

>>518797991
bumpu

>The problem is brown people
>Not the politicians that stole the money, made the laws, and paid to have them shipped here in the first place, so they could work at Mexican wages for private profit

>>518797556 (OP)
yeah we know, the US government needs to be torn down and reformed, but we have a large percentage of commies that want to abandon the constitution that have to be dealt with first.

>>518800043
Trump has a lot of shit to deal with and is probably the first president since Andrew Jackson to not have been completely bought out.

If we make noise, he will listen.

/pol/ claims to be white yet cant do simple mathematics
quite brown coded.

>>518803774
Show us the math. Where is it wrong?

>>518797556 (OP)
Thanks, ChatGPT.

>>518804518
It's from Blind. Notice how none of them actually address the core question and are deflecting and gaslighting. Par for the course. You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/foreign-tech-workers-pay-less-taxes-and-price-us-citizens-out-of-housing-jn3j8h47

>>518798992
yeah I was going to say something similar: they are gamers playing the game, within the rules.
The problem is the presence of these rules that allow them to do these things. The problem isn't the players themselves.
If it were illegal to do these things you'd be calling the tipline rather than whining in here to nihilists and doomers.

>>518800944
I don't get your angle. That guy did something and only Better.com's investors will suffer from it, if the company goes under.

>>518806414
>yeah I was going to say something similar: they are gamers playing the game, within the rules.
>The problem is the presence of these rules that allow them to do these things. The problem isn't the players themselves.
>If it were illegal to do these things you'd be calling the tipline rather than whining in here to nihilists and doomers.
These rules were originally put in place in good faith but these Indians are taking advantage of it to the max degree and ripping us off for years if not decades.

I'd go as far as doing a blanket ban on Indians for the foreseeable future. I personally would go further and ban trade with India because who knows they might smuggle humans or something.

They're basically Romanian Gypsies you encounter on European metro stations but on a national scale, when you call them out they get all defensive and accuse you of wrongdoing.

>>518806414
>dOnT HATE tHa PlAyA haTe ThA GaMe

ever wonder why you live in a shithole surrounded by parasites who'll shank each other over a dollar? hu$$lin is a brown trait and it drags everyone down

>>518807084
They truly are insufferable and only cause chaos and destruction in their wake

>>518808025
Related.

>>518808025
It's actually called profiteering. That's why the rent is so high. Universal rent control now.

>>518809002
It's called supply and demand

>>518809126
Yeah, I guess those youtube videos about ratcheting up the rent on your second property to pay your first mortgage, car payment, and groceries are classic "supply and demand".

>>518809544
You and your ilk only know how to cause pain and suffering for others. May it all fall upon your own head very soon.