Thread 518801247

>is surrounded by church leaders from all branches of christianity
>millions of so called christians support him
>somehow doesn’t know the basics of the gospel

maybe he is atheist idk

>>518801247 (OP)
Trump’s “Faith” has been a transparent grift from day one that only the most mentally broken boomer won’t admit is a scam, but it’s the lesser of two evils. I’d rather have a man who worships cheeseburgers and Jews but makes the country a better place to live in over commie pedocrats

>>518801247 (OP)
Trump is a secular Jew. Everyone but Evangelicals know this.

>>518801462
>pedocrats
would be nice if he released those files to prove this

Why are leftoids pretending to care about this? They don't even believe in heaven now they're using this as "evidence" that they were right about DRUMPF! being a bad orange man.

>>518801564
Would be nice if you had legitimacy and asked for the epstein files to be released while biden was president, but you don't because you didn't.

Evangelicalism is extremely performative which is why its practitioners have no problem following a guy doing the same thing. Pretty much all that matters is that you hate abortion, fags, and rep the prosperity gospel and you're good.

Just seems bizarre that none of these Christian leaders have told him how to get to heaven if he’s seemingly so concerned with it.

If he didn’t care about heaven he’d say stuff like “i want history to remember the good i did” or whatever

>>518801247 (OP)
Why would anyone think they're going to heaven?
Seems presumptuous to expect that.

>>518801247 (OP)
You know what? I respect his honesty. He definitely isn't going to heaven considering how many kids he raped

>>518801607
Based
>>518801247 (OP)
He's never been a total Bible freak, he knows instinctively Christianity is good for civilization

>>518802455
>Christianity is good for civilization
Latin America and Africa must be booming!!

>>518801247 (OP)
Trump said there is nothing that will get him into heaven. That was the context of reporters question and it is also part of the Gospel. You are putting faith in what God did to give God the glory and not bragging on your own works to get into heaven.

Here is the actual words Trump used for context enjoyers.

“I don’t think there’s anything going to get me in heaven. I think I’m not maybe heaven-bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly on Air Force One. I’m not sure I’m going to be able to make heaven, but I’ve made life a lot better for a lot of people.”

He also joked that if certain media figures were going to heaven, he’d rather be in hell, and quipped about building a wall around paradise if he were denied entry

That last bit is called self deprecation, it's a fun way to be humble and to stay grounded.

>>518802455
>he knows instinctively Christianity is good for civilization
Is that why he surrounded himself by Jews only his entire life and only even pretended to give a shit about Christianity when he needed the rural retard vote?

>>518801247 (OP)
>maybe he is atheist idk
something like that

>>518801607
oh wow, I guess that means Trump is right to not release them, despite the fact that he specifically campaigned on releasing them. Got me there, Chad.

>>518802101
You can be forgiven for that through Jesus. Jesus wont save the rich, he already said otherwise

>>518802815
He campaigned on releasing them, then he got elected and found out they don't exist. There is nothing he can do about that.

>>518801247 (OP)
A camel with have an easier time squeezing through the eye of a needle than a rich man will have getting into heaven

>>518801247 (OP)
Heaven and Hell aren't really concepts in Judaism

>>518802936
>then he got elected and found out they don't exist
Crazy that his own AG told him a few months ago that he's featured in files that "don't exist," which caused this sudden u-turn on his stance on them.

>>518803499
His name was in some records owned by Epstein, the records turned out to not be the "files" you were mistakenly fooled into believing in.

>>518803683
Cool I guess they can release them then and we'll see exactly that, yes?

>>518803791
The records like flight log and address book are already released, what other files are you talking about?

>>518803791
What is even more cray cray is how no one talks about Les Wexner

>>518803848
>what other files are you talking about?
The client list and whatever else comes after phase 1

>>518801607
Of course we did
The media kikes didn't report that shit but it was constant here, you disingenuous kike
We knew Biden and Clinton was in them so we knew he wouldn't release them but it was still constantly brought up

He literally worships apollo dude, he has a whole shrine in trump tower dedicated to apollo. Dude is a luciferian through and through, it's not even hidden lol

>>518804183
We know Les Wexner was a client, how about that why don't you mention or research that yourself?

>>518801567
Trump has repeatedly said in recent months, totally unprompted, that he’s scared he won’t get into heaven. People with working brain stems consider that a sign that Trump feels guilty on a deep level.
>>518801462
Yup… best moment of Mark Halperin’s career was repeatedly asking Trump what his favorite bible passages are:

https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE

Most Americans and I’m talking down to 3 years old would come back with “John 3:16, for He so loved the Earth he gave his only begotten son”.

>>518804356
How about we release the files and we can just see everyone involved?

>>518801247 (OP)
Trump panders to his Christian base but he's never been a Christian. Hes a materialis. He worships gold and himself.

heaven is only for pagan worshippers like myself. sorry chuddies!

>>518804473
Because then you are just making it political, in reality people just want to win in politics and Trump won. No one cares about Esptein. It's about winning.

>>518801793
It would require a change of heart and priorities. This scares sin addicts.

>>518804612
How is it political if there's presumably people on both sides of the aisle in the files? Let's have a clean bipartisan flush of all of this filth.

>>518804722
Because no one brings up the other side, all they talk about is Trump, because he won.

>>518804722
If it wasn't political then you wouldn't have brought it up on /pol

>>518801462
Oh the copes began!

>>518804779
I don't care "what people talk about." Release the files, enough pilpul.

If Almighty God forgives Donald Trump, we are all in the clear. I am going to steal whatever isn’t nailed down at my local Target.

>>518804853
>release the files
What files?

>>518801247 (OP)
>journalism in 2025

hanging is not good enough for these people

>>518804952
Oh boy back to square 1 we go!

See:
>>518804183

You think a guy as busy and business minded as Trump ever sat down to contemplate the existence of reality or a possible spiritual realm? He probably hasn't thought much at all about an afterlife from being to busy to even think about it

>>518801247 (OP)
Nah. He's just ignorant and never really was faithful until he almost died in Butler. He started to mention God a lot more after that. Happens to a lot of people who almost die and miraculously survive, they consider God more. Trump isnt catechized

Probably not getting anything from Santa Clause either. Poor baby.

>>518802897
The entire context of that verse is through God anything is possible. Most people are rich because they love worldly things. A rich man has a much harder time then a poor man to love God more but it's still possible.
The rich guy who donated half his wealth and forgave his debts in celebration of Jesus coming into town is an example.

>>518804981
We already know his clients, such as Les Wexner, why don't you hire a lawyer and do something about him?

One if the biggest absurdities of the 21st century is the inherently secular left, that has been promoting abortion and homosexual marriage for decades, lecturing anybody over their faith

>>518804373
I like
Psalm 96:5
Ephesians 6:12
Matthew 6:6

>>518804336
High level warlock

>>518801247 (OP)
He's a jew. He might not have actually converted to the religion, but he is part of their tribe and he thinks and acts like they do.

>>518805124
And what does their faith teach
>Anything is permissible if it feels good
The most jewish lie ever constructed

>>518801901
Some Christians believe in "once saved, always saved' theology and that because they accept Christ and have faith in Christ they are saved and always will be, regardless of how much they sin

>>518804986
Hes old and his health is failing. He's thinking about it.

>>518801247 (OP)
Faith isn't a choice.

>>518805124
Non Christians sure love to talk trash about Jesus the same time they tell you that you arent worshipping correctly.

>>518801462
You should see the mega churches in Florida. They have masses that pray for Trumps health and wellbeing. It's insanity. He is the complete opposite of what a "good christian" should be yet all these boomers and mouth breathers believe every word he says. Simpletons.

>>518801247 (OP)

trump did it just so they'd talk about it in the press
obviously it worked since you're talking about it lmao
this is what separates the high iq from the low ones

>>518805305
Just like Satanists. Odd cohencidence

>>518801247 (OP)
Because he's raped kids.

>>518803029
How shall you know this if you sold each and every copy of your bibles, cheaply printed in China, for profit to your cultists?

>>518805307
Im still having a hard time with this. The Bible emphasizes good behavior over and over. Faith should be your bedrock but then continuing to willingly sin isn't producing good fruit. Good trees can only produce good fruit and if a tree doesn't produce it's tossed into the fire.

>>518801247 (OP)
maybe trump is having another one of those oncoming death moments of clarity

>>518805506
You should pray for your enemies. It's a good habit. The blessings rebound to you and put your enemy to shame.

>Proverbs 25:21–22 (NIV): "If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you".

>>518801901
He is a humble man

>>518801564

https://www.bitchute.com/video/kxHBzAxP8tkW

>>518801247 (OP)
No shit.
I like Trump but you don’t become a billionaire by being a good man. A millionaire, yeah its possible, but to be billionaire you have to cut a few deals with metaphorical (perhaps literal) devils. The only exception to this rule are those born into billionaire status; theur fathers and grandfathers did the devil deals.

>>518805725
Every protestant heresy can be traced back to the political or social expediency it served

>>518804373
Eh I don't see that as a big deal. I enjoy reading books, but if you asked me "whats your favourite quote from any of the books you read", I wouldn't be able to tell you a single one. Why would I? I read books to enjoy them, internalize the important parts I think are worth holding onto, and then that's it. It's not like I read as if I'm studying for a test where I have to quote everything.

>>518805725
Yeah I dont believe in the once saved, always saved. Im an Orthodox Christian. Im not sure of my salvation. Wont know until I die. Its understandable that "once saved, always saved" appeals to some people over other Christian doctrine that does not promote that or that salvation is that simple and easy as saying a few words.
>Matthew 7:21-23

>LITERALLY says on camera "I'm not Christian"
>"Gee maybe he's an atheist guys idk"

>>518805124
>One if the biggest absurdities of the 21st century is the inherently secular left, that has been promoting abortion and homosexual marriage for decades, lecturing anybody over their faith
You deserve to be lectured for your faith when you hold up a triple divorced philandering con artist who may or may not have raped children as the hero Jesus sent to save your country
Your posts even does the same thing I said in >>518801705 ; your "faith" is just personal hatred of gays and women and everything else in the Jesus book is irrelevant to actually being a Christian. Evangeliscalism is just a bunch of people who cope with their moral failing by hinging their faith on the parts of the religion they don't actually have to worry about transgressing, like abortion, because they fail at the part where you don't covet your neighbor's wife or fuck children.
>>518805305
As opposed to the Christian belief which is
>anything is permissible and if you get caught just mumble that Jesus forgives you anyway so it's ok :)

>>518801247 (OP)
He had one chance. Winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
If you win the Nobel Peace Prize, God HAS to let you in.
Fuck you Norway. Fuck you for condemning this fine man to hell.
You could have saved him.

>>518801247 (OP)
Nobody is going to heaven unless they believe the glad tidings sourced from the scriptures.

>>518805725
>>518806145
To doubt "once saved always saved" is to doubt the promise and grace of Jesus. But yes, people should do the most they can to turn away from sin and do good works. Not for their own salvation, but for the sake of goodness.

>>518805307
>>518805725
"once saved, always saved" is a heresy
>1 John 2
>My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
>And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
>And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
>He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
>But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
>He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

>2 Peter 2
>20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
>21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
>22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

>>518806461
absolutely wrong
God will never remove his salvation from you, but you can reject God's salvation
don't spread heresy
see >>518806575

>>518801247 (OP)
I'm not going to heaven either. I'm very religious and I simply do not believe in Christian forgiveness. We are born innocent and become progressively more dirty as we age and sin with our actions & thoughts. Most of us aren't going to heaven - for sure not anyone here or anyone who's ever had access to the Internet.

>>518806640
You're a shitskin hindu don't chime in

I believe in heaven but I also don't believe I deserve to go there :/

>>518806907
Nobody deserves to go there, that's literally the point of Jesus.

>>518805725
The deeds are outward evidence of an inward relationship with Christ. Because, you've been forgiven are you going to continue to sin like a spoiled child who has never had to face consequences? That's why a Christian has to repeatedly turn to the cross in realization of the consequences of sin. There's the son of God, the perfect man, being put to death for our sins. In the material it was the vanity and pride of the Pharisees and their fear of losing power, the indifference of the Roman state, and the willful ignorance of the crowd. The first believers were his killers, but they are forgiven in order that they might be free to sin no more.
What does a lifer usually do, that's right, more crime. So, it's the same for somebody assured of their own condemnation. The other risk is in just believing anything goes, because of forgiveness, it doesn't, and sin always has a way of working doubt that can lead to complete destruction of the relationship with God. It's about staying forgiven. It's very humble of Trump to admit that whatever the person that deserves heaven is, it isn't him. That's the correct attitude because it is by grace we are saved.

>>518801901
Because they put their faith in the one who can save, Jesus Christ.

4chan: The Game

belief in heaven/hell is a sign of a low IQ

>>518801247 (OP)
Many people that are Proud™ to call themselves Christians.

why do i feel like this is ai

>>518801462
no shit, you can't be successful in NYC and not have your spirituality completely wiped out

We're living in the little season of satan. Evidence of the second coming in 70 ad, and the subsequent millenial kingdom(hint: it's all the "tartaria" architecture shit, plus an entire 3 timezone continent between russia and usa called Terre De Iesso or Land Of Jesus) has been covered up. Trump worships Apollo(lots of pictures of his apollo shrine in trumptower), the statue of liberty is apollo, if you look on one of the feet of the statue, it has been unchained... All of this debating on his religious views is pointless, dude is a tool of the current age. Hope this cleared things up for you ignorant idiots.

>>518801247 (OP)
Jews don't believe in heaven.. this is well known

>>518806206
I'm an Athiest you fucking nigger
Stop lecturing Chrisians you clown ass genocide bait.

Imagine my shock.

>>518801247 (OP)
I burst out laughing when he mispronounced Abrahamic while doing his 20 minute set at the Knesset. He's like "you guys love this Abrahamic shit". I think he literally said "Abe-ruh-hamic" like it was an exotic word, then smirked and said he doesnt use that word much. So fucking hilarious and makes me said he is so evil.

>>518806136
by not memorizing, you have no place to anchor your thoughts, and become guided by buoys of emotion.

>>518801462
How has he made the place better to live? Are houses more affordable? No. Are jobs paying higher wages? No. Is food more affordable? No.

>>518801462
>pedocrats

The absolute delusion lmao

Reminds me of that guy who got pulled over livestreaming who put up his hands and said "save me donald trump" while crying

Thats the level basically all Trump supporters are on at this point

>>518801247 (OP)
All world leaders are atheists
Also, get saved /pol/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tf72DtkGvI

>>518804373
>People with working brain stems consider that a sign that Trump feels guilty on a deep level.
Lol. I voted for him, but.. lol.

>>518801247 (OP)
im sure this isnt a misrepresented quote

>>518801462
It isn't that he is a grift, but that he never understood or even read the Bible before and it seems after his first term he started to become Christian. He needs someone to coach him on Christianity. He clearly just doesn't understand the faith.

>>518801247 (OP)
>It's real.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CxAkHmVKT2A
This is really bad. It's no coincidence that he has never once said that Jesus is his savior either.

>>518801247 (OP)
Even Christians acknowledge that the rate of ascendancy is like 1 per hundred-thousand. Maybe you are the fake Christian a Protestant perhaps?

>>518801247 (OP)
>somehow doesn’t know the basics of the gospel
He knows what protestantism is and he knows it's retarded
And he's too "busy" to get familiar with Catholicism so he's just hoping for the best, basically

>>518814096
>hurr durr Trump is a Christian

he’s a jew, with jewish children who loves jews. He makes statements like this which one hears jews say regularly. Nothing about him is Christian

>>518814237
Heretic detected.

>>518804373
I have not read the Bible but I like Psalm 23. It's peaceful. :)