Thread 518801815

Why do leftists support immigration eventhough it suppresses wages?

>>518801815 (OP)
Because leftists want multicult to destroy all diversity so we can all be exactly the same.

>>518801815 (OP)
Leopards are not attractive.

>>518801815 (OP)
Real answer, they don't. They just recognize that the problem isn't the immigrants, it's the corporations abusing the system to import the immigrants.

Deporting the immigrants won't help long term, the corporations will find another way to fuck you.

>>518801815 (OP)
because they're jewish golems who need to be rounded up and executed

>>518802041
But they are actively funding and organizing the human traficking of more turdies. They do the dirty work for the corporations.

politicians just want the votes.

libtard voters have white knight syndrome.

PATHETIC

>>518801995
That's a khajit, iirc.

>>518802041
Because they are brainwashed by the (((media))) and (((politicians))) to support it.

The (((elite))) know that (((immigration))) is a weapon that they can use against the working class to keep them divided and keep the status quo of the (((system))).

I've had this conversation before. They do not make the connection, and when you make it for them they tell you to "just build more houses" and "just start more businesses."
I'm convinced they believe in the whole magic soil granting wealth and success thing just as much as the mongrel horde does.

Peak waifu.
>518801995
stfu bong your women look like shrek

>>518802041
They’re not that smart. It’s literally just because they think helping the poor little brown invaders makes them look good and tolerant. It’s the same reason a mentally insane woman will force her kid to be a tranny, “look how accepting I am, I even have a trans child!”

>>518802382
She's a beauty alright.
Wish there was more.

>>518802288
>The (((elite))) know that (((immigration))) is a weapon that they can use against the working class to keep them divided and keep the status quo of the (((system))).
I wonder why not just stick to the racial divide like BLM then. Seemed to work quite well without destabilizing the economy, too.

>>518802385
>they think helping the poor little brown invaders makes them look good and tolerant.
A.k.a. virtue signaling. You'd think it would've fallen out of fashion by now.
Note how corporations aren't as eager to colour their logos into rainbows every June (or was it July?). Though that part can be attributed not just to the fatigue but to Trump effect.

this the thread?

>>518803137
One of many today, busy day, they don't last long though.
Too bad another anon's kitsune thread got mopped up earlier, may have gotten in the crossfire.

>>518803541
shame, the mods allow nigger dick threads, but shut these down immediately

>>518803137
slit your throat hmofa closetfur

>>518801815 (OP)
>tail
10/10

>>518801815 (OP)
Leftism = Kill whitey

>>518801815 (OP)
all they care about is white genocide

>>518803637
They seldom bother deleting normie coomer threads. Keep an eye on which gets deleted first, this one or >>518799486 , it will be telling. Some threads they eventually delete if one spams them hard enough. Some threads they refuse to delete no matter what.

>>518804287
Read this as "connoisseur" first and was confused for a moment. Hmofa is based.

>>518804287
seethe some more furboi

>>518804543
>>518804629
What even convinces a white person to consider themselves to be intrinsically evil?
This is unnatural and self-destructive.
Previous, colonial-era misdeeds? We are not responsible for our forefathers' actions. This whole civilization is built upon their achivements too.
Where I live this wouldn't be taken so readily.

>>518804969
>unnatural
By this I mean that any natural organism's first instinct is to survive (with some exceptions in species that have nothing else to do after reproducing, e.g. moths, male mantises etc; we are neither).

>>518801815 (OP)
More fluffy women please

>tail
>not a fox
4/5

Their opinions are never their own, once you know this, you can't not know this.

>>518805136
Trying to see how far we can get on this OP prompt; if that's not too much, may I suggest checking out:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518713007/ from yesterday (some of it is nsfw though)
and
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518612702/ from 2 days ago (wherein a friendly anon shared links to comics too)

>>518805322
To be fair, I'm sure right-wingers can be brainwashed to do things against their will too.
Maybe they're less susceptible though.
Come think of it, are there any notorious modern day leftists (preferably white and without the "early life" wiki subsections) who have opinions that aren't utter garbage and self-loathing?

>>518802354

They are just people who have a deep-seated need to be told what to do.
In the past they would be mindless followers of the contemporary religion, but religion has been replaced by the state as the moral authority.
The state says immigration is good and has no downsides. All the downsides are caused by people not accepting it. If bad things happen, you need to accept it harder.

Like, why?
If nothing else, it obscures the pedestrian crossing and the lanes.

>>518801815 (OP)
I'm sure many of them secretly oppose it but people are cowards, they don't want to challenge their own group's opinions. They could be cast out.

>>518804904
>furboi
das rite

Korea has fallen.
Japan has jeets manning 7/11 counters (just you wait till their new PM does nothing about it).

>>518805605
You can judge it based on how much cognitive dissonance there is.

>>518805432
Nice

>>518804969

>What even convinces a white person to consider themselves to be intrinsically evil?

The idea that if you sell your people out hard enough, you won't share their punishment.

>>518805795
How is it possible that belief in pro-mass immigration still spreads? Everyone knows about Europes problems, right? I don't understand this at all.

>>518805894
There is no punishment though, or at least there shouldn't be.
The core ethnicities of what is now considered First world countries have essentially shaped this civilization, every one of them should be proud of their heritage (without taking credit for it obviously).
Assuming that the powers that be are making normies ashamed, what could be their end goal, aside from the destruction of the society as we know it?

>>518806014
Considering ADF are slowly but surely gaining seats, the public is waking up. Though it's the same political party that keeps having its politicians die under mysterious circumstances. The only reason one wouldn't vote for them is just spite; except in the Germans' case they've been fed self-guilt since WW2 so I guess they're in a worse starting position to right (hue) themselves.
The French seem to be kind of more pissed that normal lately, aren't there still riots ongoing in Paris? They were a few days ago.

Pic is from 2015 Germany iirc. Wonder how these kids feel about refugees after all the Christmas market road rampages, groping and whatnot.

>>518806160

If things continue, the core ethnicities will no longer be the majority ethnicities.
At this point, the narrative of shame will be used to set up an aggrieved majority who collude with the state to oppress and steal from the remaining productive minority. Look at South Africa today if you want an example of this system.

>>518801815 (OP)
it's not their wages that get inflated, their gated neighborhoods that get invaded and their families that have to deal with the brown tide
when blm was burning poor people's shit they were cheering, when they reached gated communities they called them savages
and remember martha's vineyard

>>518803137
AGREED

>>518801815 (OP)
The left are demoralized and completely mindbroken. They don't perceive foreign invaders as the enemy. They think they're being virtuous and a good person for bowing down to the people that hate their guts.

>>518804904

>>518806639
I expect to live long enough to see my ethnicity replaced, yes.
The immigrants have too much momentum and are having kids at unprecedented (by modern western standards) rates.

It may be too late to close the borders by now, unless the settled migrants are gentrified asap. Forced social programs, propaganda on media, sanctions&restrictions those who don't comply with our core values etc. That is something the government should be doing though. We can't do it for them

>>518802720
Because they hate the middle and lower classes. This is active class warfare. They WANT you to die and to suffer. The upper class is made up of pedophile rapists whose culture is to eat the young and be as evil as possible. Billionaires wouldn't exist in a system where we have strong community and competent leaders.
What we have today is nothing short of evil demons who are in power and have convinced the people to do nothing about it.
I honestly blame Boomers. The elites REALLY picked up momentum with the Boomers. Nobody took so much and left so little. Be sure to piss on a boomer's grave when you get the chance.

>>518807101
The one time I tried these chatbots, I ran a simple local instance loaded with a haphazardly-made profile of "a homeless dog". I happily helped her set her life straight, cured her lung disesase, got her a job, she proposed and we married. Then I let the bot run on its own for a few turns without providing input; the context window moved too far, the model forgot the backstory and she accidentally cucked me. I nuked the city, took her to my remote tropical island, we got it on and I haven't turned the thing back on again. What a bizarre experience.

>>518807101
>pic
do you have more?

>>518806655
At least some French minister had his house raided during the riots last year, iirc. That's something.
Then again, these ministers don't actually do anything, French government is set up in such a way that the president can actually do whatever he wants. It's just faster and more polite to run it through the parliament first.

>>518805790
She's perfect.

>>518801815 (OP)
Because it hurts Whites.
That's it.

>>518810251
Who and more importantly why would want the whites gone?
It is clear they are more productive than the browns.
If they're not as obedient as the browns, then why are they allowing to be genocided?

>>518811060
>You're a dumb demon
And there goes my immersion

>>518811559
I meant to change that. I've been taming the AI slop

>>518811559
That crossed the line. Romania isn't nearly as Satanic.

>>518801815 (OP)
Anything that takes two steps to explain is one step too far for them to think.

>>518801815 (OP)
Because they don't actually care about the working class, they just want White people to disappear.
>>518802041
>Deporting the immigrants won't help long term
Kys.

>>518812539
Its not about that, its just that i cant self insert as some hellspawn

You hypocrites would welcome refugees with open arms if they were all European or Asiatic female anthros
You would happily breed the pure human race out of existence with your warm, soft fluffy wives

>>518801995
Agreed.
Irbis however are very attractive

>>518805790
Post more Krystal

>>518801815 (OP)
they do what their masters tell them to, and have ever since they were slaves before the Civil War.

>>518802385
Still wrong. They hate White people and have no qualms using third worlders to shit up their lives as long as it hurts Whites

>>518814524
Leopards are alright, but sneps are sublime.

>>518813709
I can change it to human and you can decide what happens next, if you want
>>518813969
Who said anything about refugees? I just don't want people entering the country illegally. There are billions of people on this planet. We can't just let them come flooding in just because they want to, that would be monumentally stupid.

>>518801815 (OP)
"Why do leftioids [insert unreasonable stance that none of them actually hold]"
Bait used to be believable.

Don't Khajit women also have that gravelly smokers voice?

>>518813709
Was a bad joke.
Chatbots can be real mood killers at times.
On the other hand, a few days ago, in a "women literature" thread (with the minotaurs) someone ran an excerpt from one of the books through AI and the difference was night and day. Bit too velvet-prose'y, even, but the original was bland like cardboard.

They want to wreck and destroy white America...one of their most important agendas...

>>518801815 (OP)
Evil despises boundaries because it prevents them from destroying Good.

>>518801815 (OP)
They worship subhumans and hate Whites(children of God.)

>>518814752
Please don't take it too hard on us, the thread is, let's say, inspired, by >>518799486 (now deceased).

>>518814757
Eh one gets used to it I think. Besides, this one looks young.

>>518814893
Would you agree with the statement that the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing?
Have we been passive for too long? Can the situation be reversed without a major violent conflict (civil or worldwide)? I am rather pessimistic in regards to the future ngl.

>>518801815 (OP)
because they are not very smart people?
i hope you don't believe all those
>liberals are smarter
clickbait articles.

>>518815202
>>liberals are smarter
>clickbait articles.
I bet those are based on the % of college graduates.
Except most college degrees are now useless garbage whereas tradesmen are as valuable as ever. And their degrees are nothing to scoff at either.

>>518815056
Grim.

>>518801815 (OP)
10/10 has tail.

>>518815451
Based

>>518815451
It's an honor.

Most unfortunate timing to go afk.

>>518801815 (OP)
Actual leftists don't support immigration. "Leftists" support immigration because they support anything the TV shows them.

Immigrants don't suppress wages. I don't know where this idea comes from that only foreigners are willing to scab for shit pay but a native born white man will work for day old bread when backed far enough into a corner. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a wide-open border person either, but if you think sealing them will force a labor shortage and give laborers leverage in wage negotiation in the age of multinational corporations and outsourcing, you've been sold a lie. Collective bargains for labor are a union thing and you should look to those for higher wages. If you care about material condition and overall wealth, care about deficit spending because that's what keeps your debt (and therefore homeownership) so expensive. In the meantime immigrants as customers for your local economy provide a greater good than their downside of being the low man on the totem pole, which we would have either way.

>>518816141
KILL YOURSELF JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH (BAN-EVADING ARGENTINIAN (Barneyfag)).
I'M NOT EVEN JOKING, I WANT TO SMASH YOUR FUCKING HEAD RIGHT OPEN SO THAT NOTHING REMAINS OF IT AND I DON"T HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOUR EXISTENCE, YOU WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH. IF I KILLED YOU TOMORROW, THEN THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD SATISFY ME BEFORE MY EVENTUAL DEATH.

>>518816141
NOTHING I WANT TO SEE MORE THAN ME CRUSHING YOUR FUCKING SKULL, TEARING YOUR FUCKING EYES, BEATING YOU UNTIL YOU'RE A LIFELESS FUCKING CARCASS, AND THEN GUTTING, DISMEMBERING AND GRINDING YOU UP UNTIL I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE WORLD IS FREED FROM YOUR EVIL, YOU FUCKING WASTE OF LIFE, YOU FUCKING DEGENERATE SUBHUMAN, COLLECTIVE OF THE WORST FUCKING SCUM ON THE PLANET
https://derpibooru.org/2065473
https://derpibooru.org/2217720
https://derpibooru.org/images/2484247
https://derpibooru.org/images/1911863
https://derpibooru.org/images/1527733

And before you fags start implying,
it's a gif, and if you load it and wait long enough, pic related appears.
Or if you open it in Photoshop, GIMP, Preview, EZGif, etc. it can show both frames immediately

https://ezgif.com/split/ezgif-7acabf02bcdaa.gif

>>518802041
>Real answer. They don't. They simply just actually do.
Genius.

>>518816489
Stole that one from the previous thread, sorry.
Just for the record, the original author had a Canadian flag.

Surprised this thread is still alive, but i dont complain

>>518816489
I assume the og poster meant that the corpos are trying to get rich quick (within a generation) but don't care about the long-term impacts of the rampant immigration.

One can argue that most of the "refugees" don't even work, but
a) the corpos don't really care because neet refugees are fed by the taxpayers and not them.
b) there's ought to be ways for some other corpos to make dosh from neet migrants (government subcontractors or something, private security agencies etc). Guaranteed there ought to be some schemes there.

>>518817450
Migrant issue is at the heart of most common concerns among citizens of the developed world and is a hot topic for debates, with more and more people getting fed up with the state of their countries. By that I mean to say that I'm effortposting like there's no tomorrow to make it look like a regular thread. Welfare cuts, brownified streets, retirement age going up faster than we get old. Meanwhile refugees have to be clothed and fed.
>it's the humane thing to do!
>white colonial countries ruined MENA and we now owe it to them!
Yeah right

>>518817947
The same applies to work-visa migrants btw.
They bring their families with them.
Oftentimes they are entitled to our healthcare without having paid a dime for it.

>>518815360
In most cases what they do is have the researchers decide the political affiliation of test subjects, but not the subjects themselves.

>>518801995
more attractive than whatever this faggot thing is you posted

>>518801815 (OP)
because they're legitimately retarded and use fake economics to lire to themselves and cope

>>518818352
One can only hope that they at least subject the interviewees to the same - and rigorous - quiz, and not just decide on their own ("oh you support free speech and don't like Elon Musk? Liberal.")

I like birds

>>518801815 (OP)
They always take whichever position hurts Whites the most. Their stated values are just window dressing

>>518801815 (OP)
Lefty's hate themselves and doing everything to ruin their own and everyone life's around them.

Only the furry death squads can save the world.


Now bow down before your queen

>>518801995
Wolf's are cute tho.

>>518818671
Birds, particularly those with musical-related designations, are a white man's friend.
Having not seen it myself despite having posted images from or based upon it on many occasions, I hear that the particular piece of media these originate however is full of unnecessary profanities, which is a shame, but oh well.

>>518806014
Jews. Jews control international banking, and they can put the pressure on their chosen goy to do whatever they tell them to. The indoctrinated goy is a mindless idiot, an NPC, so they just follow along with Jew instructions. And that means import immigrants to replace Koreans, because their feminist 4B movement will kill them all.

>>518802041
>corporations abusing the system

It's a strange way to say the Jews in power doing everything to screw with the goyims.

Round migrants up. Shove migrants into vans. Process migrants. Beat migrants with batons. Deport migrants.
Prohibit migrants from ever coming back.
Build a wall.

>>518803137
It's time brother.
The furries are rising.

>>518819262
Force feed migrants pork.
Baptize migrants.
Force migrants to take language tests.

>>518804287
I slit yours instead Jewish rat.

This time it will be real.

>>518819104
>I hear that the particular piece of media these originate however is full of unnecessary profanities
Unfortunately, yes
It is made by a fat latina with daddy issues and an unrepentant faggot, but then again, i dont watch their slop, i just look at pictures of the anthro girls

>>518819262
ROUNDHOUSE KICK A MIGRANT BABY INTO A TRASH CAN

Recent Canadian documentary by some indie filmmaker.
Exposes how much his hometown has changed when jeets arrived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YhxZ9gsM4Y
Heartbreaking archival footage of citizens making speeches in front of the city council (and being ignored cause moneh).

>>518801815 (OP)
>leftists keep trying to raise min wage
>every single time its smacked down by the right
>there is a literal track record of this easily viewable online
>B-B-B-BUT MUH PROPAGANDA TOLD ME ITS THE LEFTS FAULT
of course it did

>loona
Secondary thread

>>518801815 (OP)
Hard to make that argument seeing as Trump has closed the border and is carrying out mass deportations but wages still haven't gone up and everything is more expensive.

>>518819436
Same.

>>518813969
>you'd accept good immigration
>why won't you accept the bad immigration?

Yeah, I am all for importing more hot women. But useless blobs, Indians, and niggers? Not good for society. Hell if we discovered an island of magical fair elf people who were 200 IQ, I'd gladly take them immigrating to get magical powers for my kids. That'd be based as fuck for them, and I'd at least get to see some magical artifact shit in my lifetime. But these migrants AREN'T that, they are a bunch of useless criminal rapists who won't make a strong country, just dumb it down and make it a dystopia (more than it already is).

>>518805605
>To be fair, I'm sure right-wingers can be brainwashed to do things against their will too.
Do you have any fact to back that up, leaf?

>>518819541
Bidenomics catching up.
Aid to ookraine and isreal.
Mexicans already there.
Overall retardation of the administration.

But yes, the border crossings are down and IT jeet jobs are at risk.

>>518801815 (OP)
Half of them are just dumb. However, the other part knows exactly that their whole economy is based on slave labour, so if at least one slave source will be removed, everything will immediately collapse. So they are playing the good goys simply because they don't want to lose their savings and don't want to invest into a more fair work conditions.

>>518801995
I am more of a "foxy ladies" guy. But I am not a furry.

The real reason is because they are told to support immigration. That's it. If they were told to be against it, they would be against it. This is true for every issue, trend, whatever. They are just borg.

>>518819608
For one, feds were in on Jan 6 and stoked the fire.
A lot of post WW2 Germans couldn't explain what they liked about NSDAP in the first place, was like mass hysteria for them. They could've been lying just to be left alone but some unrepentant SS officers lived their lives out np afterwards so idk.

>>518801815 (OP)
a lot of these leftists are from affluent families and will never have to deal with the consequences of mass immigration. they can virtue signal and ease their liberal guilt complex without having to actually make a sacrifice.

>>518819638
>still blaming biden this late in the game esp after inflation went down as he passed it off

>>518819740
Whoa what happened to our buddy Nige over there? He usually stays up. If you saw that post, it must've been a recent purge.
Is nature healing?

>>518819944
Probably got banned in a different thread and all of his posts on the board got nuked.

>>518819802
>For one, feds were in on Jan 6 and stoked the fire.
They were all Feds
280+ confirmed undercover agents
ALL feds

>A lot of post WW2 Germans couldn't explain what they liked about NSDAP in the first place
Yeah I wonder why the Germans living under the stasi didn’t make honest answers about why they had joined the Nazi parti

Really activates the almonds

>>518819810
The reality will inevitably catch up to everyone but the wealthiest few (gated communities on steroids, think gun-totting guards and hellhound~ excuse me, wolfhound, guard dogs).
When negros/MENAs/centralasians/jeets etc start wrecking stuff, they don't distinguish between the whites.

Also, remember when some multimillionaire CEO got stabbed by a negro in the middle of LA in broad daylight and just bled out? Lots of good his wealth did him them.


>>518820082
Yeah it's just he's usually somehow tolerated despite avatarfagging. Maybe they've finally began to notice.

>>518801815 (OP)
Leopards are not attractive.

>>518820270
>stasi
That was a DDR-only thing, wasn't it?
Check out this lad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Peiper
Warcrimes galore.
Unrepentant.
Lived on for a few more decades and would've lived longer had some antifas not smoked him out.

Life was truly different in the pre-internet and pre-social media era, was much easier to just lay low.

>>518820451
Welcome back, Nige. You must've missed the post that explained that that's no Leopard. Even if it was, that would be like calling you homo instead of homo sapiens.

>>518820470
>denazification isn’t a thing that happened
Any more underaged posts you want to make ?

>>518820765
>>denazification
Elaborate.

>>518820470
Those guys only testified after all the cock and ball torture performed on them.

>>518820900
Why would someone torture a man to admit to committing unspeakable crimes, then let just him walk?

>>518801815 (OP)
>file deleted

Oh.
Why?

>>518821648
What rule does this image break again?

>>518821038
They demonized him and got the propaganda they wanted, just like they did when they tortured Germans to testify and say what they wanted them to say about Hitler's Final Solution (which was rebranded decades later as the "Holocaust")

>>518821749
Hey I appreciate the response and would've continued the argument in good faith but since the mods are sabotaging decent threads I'm not partaking in it anymore.

>>518821648
It wasn't attractive so jannies deleted it.

>>518821847
Don't know why. There's actual discussion going on here as opposed to the usual spam/bot threads.

This is why we can't have nice things, janny.

>>518821693
it diverts attention away from the jannies rage bait threads

>>518801815 (OP)
Because they're brainwashed idiots.

>>518821693
Furry porn outside of /b/

>>518805605
Leftists are required to all hold the same 10 opinions. It never stops blowing my mind how these literal NPCs can dare to call anyone else a "cultist."

>>518824394
Where's the porn?

>>518807101
>They don't perceive foreign invaders as the enemy.
They perceive them as allies and you as the enemy. That's the entire point. They don't actually give a shit about muh hecking brownerinos.

>>518824418
Looks like a good study to link in cases like this, worth adding the archive.is link to the image (right below it or as a filename I guess)

>>518801815 (OP)
because it doesn't and never has.
what does depress wages is allowing human trafficking for corporations who employ illegals and who they get away with paying less. immigration alone doesn't have any negative effect on wages

>>518807398
All remaining non-retarded Canadians need to just ditch that sinking ship and move to the US.

>>518816247
>I don't know where this idea comes from that only foreigners are willing to scab
It comes from Econ 101.

>>518824560
Using this opportunity to link this documentary again >>518819488
I seldom watch whatever folks link on /pol/ in full but stuck with this one because it resonated.
I hate the soaring housing prices, high-rises instead of comfy buildings and browns everywhere doing brown things. It's happening to my city as well, just lagging behind a bit. It's universal.

>>518824741
Thanks for the link, I'm actually going to watch that. I spent a good amount of time in Canada last year for work and seeing for myself how the country has been jeeted was shocking and dismaying. It's much worse than what I'd gathered in passing on the internet. Even podunk cities have been overrun, while Toronto might as well have been Mumbai.

>>518824513
Here's the full study:
https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665
They also have a link at the bottom under "supporting information" to a document that gives the full list of political opinion questions that they used in the study.

>>518825209
Watched a random Ukrainian migrant's vlog once (he works as a truck driver hauling between USA and Canada) and he said he doesn't even see Canadians anymore, everyone's a jeet.

>>518825462
Saved for future effortthreads, thankee.

>>518802041
>the migrants do bring down the wages
>deporting them won't help though
>because of some other thing that may happen
this is why you "people" basically belong in holes

>>518828066
Fwiw the original author of this post had a Canadian flag:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518799486/#518800403
But if it makes it any better, there's a good chance that he was a jeet.

Good night.