Thread 518811209

Why is this file type being pushed so hard? And how come whenever I download a webp it's a blank unusable 1kb file? Are you actually downloading the actual data or just a reference?

>>518811209 (OP)
Hello, politics?

>>518811209 (OP)
seems suspicious

>>518811209 (OP)
i think it's because the default photo viewer doesnt support the format. probably an easy fix

>>518811209 (OP)
webp is a jeet file type pushed by jewgle to save shekels

>>518811209 (OP)
yeah, shit's retarded but at least for firefox there's an addon to download webps as jpegs

>>518811209 (OP)
>not using a file converter

>>518811209 (OP)
webp is the image counterpart of webm, both developed by google. webm is fantastic and a straight upgrade to the gif/short video format, but webp is forced trash that is at best a sidegrade to existing formats and as such has no real reason to switch to it outside of it being forced.

I had to install a
>save as jpeg
extension.
it was getting annoying

>>518812017
not OP but it's annoying when files have a .jpg ending and you don't know it's a webp or avif until you save it. Only in a sick and jewified society is such a practice possible.

>>518811602
WHAT ARE YOU UP TO THIS TIME

>>518811209 (OP)
Just use the extension Save image as Type. Problem fixed

>>518811209 (OP)
it's just a single frame of webm. it's fine but 4chan doesn't support it so computer-retards seethe.

>>518811209 (OP)
>not downloading supported file package
>windows
SARR

>>518811431
stfu nigger it is politics
if you download any image from internet that is not .jpg or .jpeg you can actually get absolutely fucked in the ass

>>518812136
It is your browser problem. It says it likes webp

https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-http-headers-is-my-browser-sending/


Accept:

image/avif
image/webp
image/apng

>>518811209 (OP)
>And how come whenever I download a webp it's a blank unusable 1kb file
youre a retard, thats why.

Because they're making using computers worse and worse over time.
>Windows 10 "support" ending
>Google forcing webp
>microsoft forcing people to connect their account to windows 11
>some pc speakers now automatically turn off after an hour or so
>>518811988
This.

>>518811209 (OP)
to lower tech companies cdn fees in exchange for you wasting cpu cycles

>>518812192
computers themselves barely support it. none of my machines over the last 10 years have native webp support outside of showing the thumbnail. and there's simply no reason to use it over established formats.

>>518812475
the fact that it's a corporate greedploy that offers no consumer advantages is why webpee will never catch on.

Idk everything seems weird going into the Iot

>>518811209 (OP)
webp is gayfag shit so very definitely political>>518811431

>people (chuds) use google, a search aggregate
>people (niggers) mad they can’t charge for this
>google buys other companies and becomes only aggregate
>removes the search function, you are merely given a list of advertisers
>charges for webp

>>518812360
>less and less property for you.
>more and more property for anyone, from gov., to institutions, to gangs, to religions, to health care etc...

>>518811209 (OP)
why does anyone need more than jpg and png?

How about 4chan just starts supporting webp & avif files? wouldn't be an issue then

>>518812113
You can just:
save webp file
open in paint
save as jpeg
No extras required.

>>518811209 (OP)
Because G**gle created it, along with webm, and your job is to just accept it and not question it, AND like it.
See that image whose web address ends in .jpg or .png? Go ahead and enjoy your new WEBP image when you save it!!

it's slightly smaller filesize so it saves money.

webp handles recompression really well which is better suited to how the internet works now where stuff gets reuploaded and recompressed each time

>>518811988
>addon to download webps as jpegs
>converts the webp file BACK to jpg
Lossy transcoding, and you fell for it. If it doesn't pull the original, server-hosted jpg, you're getting an image that is even more compressed them the one on the server.

> .webp

I was born a .bmp man and ill die one.

>>518811209 (OP)
>no preview
Yep it's shit.

>>518812017
>not knowing what lossy compression
It's like taking an MP3, converting it to WAV, and then back to MP3 and thinking there is no difference between the audio quality.

webp +25% smaller for the quality, the bandwidth adds up, it's just the shit support that pisses people off. No idea why 4chan hasn't figured it out by now it would save 4chan on bandwidth.

>>518813905
Had to scroll too far to find the real answer

>>518812096
You're babyducking webm because it was the only format allowed here for years. Thank God they now allow the superior and more widely accepted MP4.

>>518811209 (OP)
I have noticed the same thing, and it’s especially common when it comes to photos from news sites etc.
it’s like they don’t want people to use the photos, so they make them annoying to use.

>>518812113
>>518812160
>>518813630
>what is lossy transcoding

>>518814506
this post sounds trans coded, which makes sense since webp is for trannies.

>>518813905
AVIF is much better. I get visibly greater quality at lower size on my server using AVIF.
Dunno why would anyone pick webp over avif now.

Also @OP. If you're noob, you suffer.
I wrote my own shell entry with a bat script and now I just right click in the same folder and pick Convert AVIF to JPG. Ez

>>518811209 (OP)
That and avif are the most shitty, most inconvenient piles of shit ever. NOTHING is able to read those without extra plugins or addons.

>>518811209 (OP)
it's just google trying to get a monopoly by pushing codecs for which they have patent claims. same thing happened with webm/vp8 which back then was inferior or at best equivalent to h264/avc anyway. steve jobs was kinda based for resisting adoption of webm and vp8 in ios which is why iphones and shit dont have native webm codecs to this day.

>>518813020

I remember during the 2020 altrun the SEC had just passed regulations outlawing the use of ForExs. I had like $14,000ish in ADA stuck in USDC and logged into my account to take my funds off site and convert back to ADA because of the rule change.

Didn't use a VPN. Account immediately frozen, locked out. Couldn't get in for like two weeks. Ada went from like .08 to .53 in no time.

I knew the run was going to happen. I always felt like I got cheated by that stupid rule change. It prevented me from jumping back in in time to catch the run. I charted $3 as my exit point.

If that one little hiccup hadn't happened and I got to sell just before the top like I originally planned I'd have over $400,000 right now. That was supposed to be my passive income stream. Easily could have made $40,000 a year in passive off of that with certain staking APY's.

I'll never get over it. The US government is a horrible monstrosity. It does everything it can to prevent its own people from getting a leg up. So I get why these dudes kill themselves and meltdown. It sucks. Our generation does not have wealth. It's condensed into the hands of a bunch of geriatric child rapists.

>>518811209 (OP)
It's fucking Jewgle shit. Fuck them.

You can download a Firefox extension that will cause your browser to tell the server it doesn't support webp, just install that.

>>518814985
Name?

>>518813933
Don't care.
A small sacrifice to make to prevent the spread of AIDs

>>518811209 (OP)

i remember the dumb faggot invented that shit getting butthurt about people talking shit about it on reddit

>>518814932
You’re quite wrong. Educate yourself.

>>518814985
Most sites don't give a fuck and still serve you webp.

>>518812136
I think all serious software uses magic bytes to identify files and ignores file extensions.

>>518811209 (OP)
It's Google's format, and Google will rank your pages much higher if you're using it, so it will be pushed through.

>>518812360
Programmable computer use soon.
>what
Daily rations for computer use. Heavy gaming for 30 minutes, then the OS shuts off the game's process. Then a strict power saving mode forcing your CPU to be locked to 4 cores and the lowest frequency it can run at, to save the environment.
That way you can still watch 1 Netflix/Youtube/Twitch stream OR file taxes and do general office work.
OS will also recognise adblockers and disable them on the kernel level, with your local and online accounts getting flagged for adblock violations. Keep trying to block the ads and you'll be issued a fine by the copyright lawyers.
Don't like it? Then don't talk about it, because talk will flag you with national counter-terrorism units as a potential security threat. They'll survey you regularly to ensure your compliance and record any transgressions of Sustainable Development Goals and the limits gouvernment has set on you in their accordance.
>and what the fuck does that mean
That you wouldn't be able to get an extra cheeky piece of cheese off the record at your local cheese shop, and that you would be severely limited to 1 cheese slice as rationed per day.
No you won't get a block, you'll get a slice from the shop and no more. And if they give you more than you are allocated, they lose their entrepreneur license and lose their business as well as joining you on the terror watchlist.

I'm not advocating any of this satanic tyranny, anon.
Just looking 10 years ahead of the Jewish curve.

>>518814713
This. Avif is much better

>>518815632
I've noticed this happening more and more lately, used to work better. Webshitters probably assume everything supports webp now so they likely have been cutting out the server-side logic that will ask if your browser supports it. That's my theory.

Still works with many sites though.

Use savewebp extension on Firefox or Waterfox

>>518815910
It rings all too true. Probably what's going to happen.
Plus making everything a service (you have to subscribe to).
I wonder if HP printers will still be around in 10 years.

>>518811209 (OP)
Its just that much better than jpg and png for most things online, because when you want to deliver something fast and cheap over the internet it needs to be as small a file size as possible.

Its actually amazing the quality that webp brings considering its rediculous low file size.

Of course its annoying that many apps cant open it, but you can convert with ffmpeg easily.

>>518811802
Yes, but it also saves you time when loading websites like news sites etc.

>>518812096
Its huge save on file size though.

>>518814320
I think its more a question of saving data, modern news sites are all hosted on AWS cloud slop that costs a fortune, everything costs a fortune, what used to be a server somewhere in HQ basement is now in CIA/AWS/Amazon infrastructure. Everything costs, HTTP cloudflare/cloudfront caching = $$$, EC2/ECS/lambdas = $$$, S3 storage for cropped images and originals = $$$, DB = $$$.

Everything just costs alot more after the jump to cloud hosting, but for some reason they dont really care, they like the scalability I guess.

>>518812017
>file converter
based. hopefully running custom presets too

>>518811209 (OP)
works on my machine, 4chan XT will even convert webp to png automatically
which is nice

>>518811431
web developer politics?

>>518814128
https://github.com/Tichau/FileConverter/?from=about
enjoy

>>518811209 (OP)
Because you will own nothing.

>>518816335
>>518816358
>open a lossy image in an editor
>save it as a lossy image again
Compression on top of compression. When will you fags learn? They should have never let low IQs on the internet.

>>518816335
I worked at a realtively large european news media until recently and the amount they spend on AWS alone was enough to buy new servers every month and they had like a team of people just maintaining their overengineered AWS setup. What could be done with one guy and a computer in the basement now needs a team of indians and a CIA glow nigger cloud.

I miss when shit was simple, I miss sloppy CMS written in PHP and I miss Varnish HTTP cache, I miss the DB server being on the blade next to the apache/nginx servers in the basement not some virtual machine owned by Bezos. Good times.

>>518811431
4chan doesn't allow you to upload webp, so it's relevant.

>>518816592
Its not made for that its made for one specific reason: Deliver images over the interweb, thats why its called webp.

Its like complaining about a mug being a terrible water container for running

>>518816450
Are you retarded?
>Here's a tool that will take your lossy image and recompress it to another lossy format.

Type ctrl+I to open up the information window innyour browser. Navigate to the media tab. Find the image in the list. Highlight it. Click save as. Save it as the actual usable file type.

Fuck Google. Fuck them right in their smelly Indian assholes.

>>518816335
a lot of data could be saved by niggers just not posting their worthless 3.5mb phone pics

>>518813020
>omg all the crypto bros fucking sudoku'd
there is one reported suicide by a Ukrainian who lost about 30 mil in assets of investor $$

>>518816727
They are talking about converting saved webp images, retard.

The real question is, why does this shitty board still not support video with audio?

>>518816879
You cry about webp like thats some thing exclusive to that, why is webp worse than jpg (The alternative for delivering images on the web)? Please explain like im a retard...

>>518813587
that would require maintenance and development work though

>>518816592
>>518816744
It's minimal loss. You'll notice that if you use the program for a while.
I mostly use it for png > jpg, webm > mp4 and flac > mp3
Also, I kinda like the jpg compression

>>518816947
Obviously because retards would abuse it and post earrape vids

>>518811209 (OP)
>Why is this file type being pushed so hard?
Google shilling their way of saving bandwith
>And how come whenever I download a webp it's a blank unusable 1kb file?
You're doing something wrong.
>Are you actually downloading the actual data or just a reference?
You are retarded.

>>518814251
>babyducking
hello sir anon
what is babyducking?

>>518817118
Also, you can set the quality to 100

>>518815030
i rolled my face on the keyboard and google shat this out:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dont-accept-webp/
(give face rolling a try)

>>518817028
Of course lossy compression is not exclusive to that format and you know that I am obviously not suggesting it is. I'm talking about lossy transcoding. Should be common knowledge.

>>518816636
Do you want a brown CTO teaming up with the roasties, boomers and 2025 European law? Please tell, was it a Windows Server upgrade because muh Linux was too difficult and it just worked 10 years ago?

>>518817118
>flac > mp3
FLAC is lossless and not a valid comparison here. However, some retards think that recompressing a 192 MP3 to 320 is a boost.

>>518817271
A baby duck thinks the first thing it sees is its mother.

>>518817283
>you can set the quality to 100
>Big number sound good!
That's not lossless.

>>518812096
webm sucks i get no icon/preview and end up viewing a hundred "webm" icons in a folder at a time that i have no idea what they are until i open them, and end up having to go through my history to delete that i opened most of them

>>518811209 (OP)
Screenshot it.

>>518818257
thats all i do

>>518817127
Even the porn board gif supports it.

>>518818638
that's not what "even" means
you expect it there, it's a board for AUDIO-visual content
you don't expect to get earraped during a political discussion

>>518811209 (OP)
>Are you actually downloading the actual data or just a reference?
it's might just be the telemetry tracking in webp. it tracks which computers have and send/received the image

>>518818638
Any board that supports it doesn't even have a 10th of the user base that /pol/ has. That's why they enabled it there.

>>518811209 (OP)
>>518811209 (OP)
It's to keep normies from saving images like the old days of the internet. You can easily fix it with an extension tho
I use it and you can right click on an image and choose .png or .jpg with the "save as"

>>518820566
I hate webp with a passion but do you have proof of this?

We had a couple threads on /pol/ recently about it
Yes, it's part of the overall enshittification of the internet and laziness aka 'cost saving' or "fast-cheap" for developers and website admins

Irrespective of the 4chan image upload protocols, it's an impediment at times to rapidly saving a particular image file but is also just as simple as copying the image and then saving it as .jpg / .png whatever

>>518821031
AVIF is great.
I can load a high resolution image at just a fraction the original size.
So instead of some 4MB JPEG of 3000x3000px, you get a 400KB at the same resolution and 85% of quality.
That means the user will see that image on screen ten times faster and smoother, than seeing some laggy huge JPEG.

>>518820995
i was told that there was networking code in webp a long time again, and before i could like into it it was being abandoned online until further notice.

i never heard anything else about the security issues with webp. what's wrong with it again?

>>518816335
>ts actually amazing the quality that webp brings considering its rediculous low file size.
I have never had Blue-Ray or HD TV, and I am missing nothing. I do not need to see an actor's pores on their face to enjoy a movie.
Fuck this high tech super resolution shit. Even the human eye does not see that well.

>>518821917
>time again
time ago*

>>518811431
This isn't a politics board, it's a board for politically incorrect speech. You have to go back.

>>518811209 (OP)
Because they always have to ruin everything

>>518811209 (OP)
It's so your computer does the task of rendering the picture instead of the website on which it's located. That way, servers can leach on your computer power instead of doing the work they're supposed to do.

There's only one format I hate even more, and that avif.

>>518822672
/thread
winrar
this

>>518811209 (OP)
The jews are subverting our file types, it's crazy.
Yesterday there was a thread about how they are subverting our light bulbs.
They are always up to no good.

>>518811209 (OP)


https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/save-image-as-type/gabfmnliflodkdafenbcpjdlppllnemd?hl=en

Don't like webp? Force your browser to regurgitate the file type you actually fucking want. I run a half dozen different extensions explicitly to deal with random changes to browser functionality that piss me off. It's easier than ever to go around this kind of bullshit, you just need to put in the 15 seconds worth of effort to actually take advantage of the existing solutions.

>>518811209 (OP)
It would seem as if the point is so the image can only be on the website you found it on and can't be taken and shared.

>>518811209 (OP)
you mean the things i can screenshots of instead of saving to my devices?

>>518815910
AI is the accelerant for this dumpster fire. Soon it'll really sink in that we're post verity and the normie throngs will screech for their master's solution. Britain is already trying to rip the first bit of fur out of the cat carrier -- always online ID.

AI is the problem they're creating so we'll all beg for the cure they want us to choke on.

>>518824217
>AI is
the final juice-hogging >>518750378 of the asset classes prior to imminent total collapse of the global debt market.
21st century tulip
The last short squeeze in other words
before the entire structural foundation is pulled out from under

>>518811209 (OP)
I just screen shot it and save it as a png or jpg.
I've heard anons say years ago that it has some sort of tracking compatibility.

>>518811209 (OP)
You can copy WebP into Paint.net and save as a JPG.

WebP is a protection file type meant to be disallowed by uploaders, because there's been a legal battle happening for decades now, towards image search like Google's, for indexing images from websites of people without their consent, so to remedy this problem, if they're converted to WebP less users will download them and use on 4chan and other sites for nonconsentful memes or obscene purposes.

>>518825579
I screenshot all my images, never download.

>>518812096
webp has no benefit for the user. it is entirely made to benefit the back-end. fuck shit like that.

>>518811209 (OP)
dumbest shit ever

>>518812017
You don't have to when it comes to images. Just ctrl+c and then paste in Paint or whatever art program you use, then save as png or jpg.

>>518823005
IIRC, there's a switch you can flip in about:config to force this in Firefox (and/or some derivatives)

>>518811209 (OP)
just use snip it

>>518812136
>Open in Paint, Photoshop or image editor of your choice
>Save it as whatever filetype you want
>??????
>Profit

>>518822512
also that image format was infecting computoring machines not too long ago - it is security risk

if you are forced to download any of such images (you should really do it for all)
1. download them in designated folder
2. get image conversion software of your choice that can be called by scripts or that can do batch conversion
3. do it and then delete all webshit format files

>>518811776
It's widely unsupported

>>518829260
What if the image uses any transparency?
It just goes black and is shit