Thread 518817166

there's no fucking way that the speed of light is the universal speed limit.
>devs create MMORPG (universe)
>devs develop life, consciousness (goyims)
>life eventually spawns and reaches consciousness
>devs know that the average lifespan of a conscious creature is short
>make distances comically long and set a super low hard cap on max speed ???
>takes 26,000 years to reach the center of a normal sized galaxy at c speed
>civs can't interact with each other, game gets boring after civs realise this

What the fuck is the point of this if the speed of light is a hard cap? There isn't. Everything points to some sort of simulation/game. If we had the resources and tech, we would do the exact same and make a "fun" version of our current experience.

>inb4 muh "wormhole". good luck finding one and/or making one anywhere close to us.

We are the first generations to understand the high probability of this being a simulation/game since no influential philosopher or scientist before the 1960s could imagine this with their tech. So dismissing this with "big bang" or "the 7th day" is just laughable

>>518817166 (OP)
what's easier? overcoming light speed?
or just living longer?

>>518817166 (OP)
You've got to astral project to the new planet and trick the locals into making some kind of synthetic lifeform you can possess

>>518817166 (OP)
You don't need to travel distances at all. You can teleport. The tech just hasn't been made yet.

There isn't anything in outer space. There are no aliens.
It's like boundary breaking the game. It's a whole lot of nothing that could ultimately be chalked up to "Huh, that's neat."

>>518817166 (OP)
Good argument.
There is probably a way to get around this, and it has something to do with consciousness. Or we are really alone and the whole universe is empty, like a giant skybox, and this limitation is necessary not to find it out.

>>518817166 (OP)
The more I've come to understand relativity, the more I grasp the speed of light being (or obeying, really) the cosmic speed limit.
It's the speed of 'happening'.
I've come to understand that distant objects don't really have a 'now' that we can adequately discuss.
It took a while but 'light cones' and Minkowski space slowly made it clear to me that it's impossible to break the speed of light. I don't have the ability to explain it very well.
Let's just say you're moving AT the speed of light at all times - through spacetime. And that your motion through space borrows from your motion through time. Hence why time slows to 0 when an object hits the speed of light.
The only way to go faster than the speed of light is to go back in time. Because in order to 'borrow' from your speed through time when you're going at the speed of light, is to travel negatively through time.
And the way minkowski space works, the slightest movement in space, extrapolated to very large distances, means that even the tiniest movement relative to a distant galaxy, actually changes your relationship in time with it by thousands or millions of years. It's fucking freaky.

Yes, I know this is jew physics.

>>518817166 (OP)
Black holes are worm holes

>>518817409
While the idea of a simulation in the technical sense is novel, I think quite a few cultures came to similar conclusions albeit without the ability to point to a parallel in their everyday life as we can.
Hindu philosophy sees this world as a dream that was created by the God(s) essentially out of boredom.
Even the Abrahamic religions view our current reality as only a precursor to something greater.

I think that modern atheism might be fairly unique in seeing this life as WYSIWYG and this being all there is. Funnily enough I think they come to that conclusion because they are so disconnected to real life.

>>518817409
>every civlization ever had this idea and they made religions
you techbros are retards

>>518817875
There will be aliens. Its just the universe is proc-gen which is why we done see them. Its like in a video game where objects in the distance don't render and pop-in when you get close enough. As soon as we send a man to even Mars, Mars will have martians walking around.

>>518817166 (OP)
Such is technology, making the world more fun and convenient, unless of course we ruin it.

But how do you distinguish between a "simulation" and "creation"? Either way it was created intentionally with certain rules. Aren't they two different ideas of the same thing?

>>518817409
>philospers could never have theorized that reality was an illusion because they hadnt invented video games yet
Go back to plebbit, faggot

>>518817166 (OP)
I think we can separate the question in 2: game or simulation.
Hints at a game: + me, you. Playable characters that appear to have their own will and influence on modifying the game. + NPCs fucking everywhere. + Grind mechanics. Explore, unlock, develop, earn, fight. Our entire civilization seems to be just looking to improove and grind as much as possible. +fun

Simulation hints: + map scale (basically infinite..). +no obvious objective. +universe expanding for no reason. +too much detail

what do you think?

>>518817992
It's physics that we can measure. You don't have to be Jewish to measure it.
But what of entanglement? Quantum entanglement across distance doesn't seem to be limited by light speed.

>>518817166 (OP)
The universe wasn’t designed for consciousness or anything else

>>518817668
how are you supposed to know where to teleport?

>>518818051
Video games aren't even a great example.
Quite literally go to sleep and have a vivid dream or have one of those dreams within a dream where you "wake" multiple times.
When waking up I'm fairly certain everyone gets the strong sensation that our shared reality is only another form of dream.

>>518817166 (OP)
One can easily exceed the speed of light. Whatever is emitting the light you want to pretend can only go the speed of light, you simply put it on a moving object pointed in the same vector, then turn it on and now that light is going the speed of light plus the speed of your moving object.

>>518817996
This is essentially the premise for any kind of wormhole technology. I know it's cringe to reference a video games for it, but the fictional Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Drive from the Halo series operates this exact way.
>create localized and controlled black hole
>gravity well rips space-time
>???
>you have now arrived at your destination
The problem is inputting the correct interstellar coordinates so you dont accidentally pop out in a star. Or planet. Or any other body that could be present. Seems like some math autism that is well beyond me.

>>518818281
Simulation or game as other unreal/unity nerd explained cannot stand
with all evergy and computing power combined, without gimicks, truly simulating everything about it, including semi sentience of it, we could not simulate a single fucking ant properly.
>tech will improve
it wont
it will but not as infinite scaling as you imagine it
God, simplest explanation.

>>518818281
Interesting question, and good point. I don't know. Because according to all the physics that I know (from basically a pop-sci tier understanding), there is no cosmic, universal 'now'.
So what 'now' are the two entangled particles honoring? Especially at vast distances where 'now' is nonsensical?

>>518817992
>I don't have the ability to explain it very well.
Because it’s bullshit

>>518817166 (OP)
Did it ever occur to you we were the beta test? that the clockmaker is long gone?

>>518818406
That's not how the speed of light works. For all intents and purposes, the speed of light in a vacuum is basically the refresh rate of the universe.

>>518818066
The scarier thing is that we are in a simulation run for some completely mundane purpose like what Seasonal flavor will sell best at Starbucks this fall.

>>518817166 (OP)
There is only one "civ", you retard.

>>518817166 (OP)
Using video game speak to describe everything is something I used to do until I grew up. Stop doing that shit and think clearly and speak clearly. No wonder your brain's all screwed up

>>518819410
faggot

>>518817409
Philosophers have been talking about reality being fake and gay for as long as philosophy have been a thing.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>518817166 (OP)
what's the speed if quantum superposition?

>>518817166 (OP)
Simulation theory is just creationism for atheists

noob there is no speed of light, speed is distance traveled PER UNIT TIME, as you accelerate time decelerates. you can always go faster.

>>518820272
This

>>518817166 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1XS_y0ObK4
https://archive.org/details/secrets-in-plain-site-2
these numbers are made up according to masonic numerology. the crowbar these numbers in, knowing that the average pleb has no way of even attempting to replicate these results
notice the 26, that is the gematria of the divine name YHVH. you will see that often as well.

>>518819912
wonder what mifflin’s upto these days

>>518821538
Jerking off to Zelda.

>>518817992
I get how mass can "slow" down time, like in Interstellar, but i don't understand how there can be a cosmic speed limite. Relative to what? If we see another galaxy moving away from us, are we the ones moving or are they?

Also i had a thought, if this is true, and there is somehow a grid in empty space that the speed of light goes relative to, imagine if there is a galaxy in the "center" of the universe that is still. The ayys can go there and advance themselves millions of years while every other galaxy is progressing through time slower.

But anyway, let's say you have a spaceship next to the sun that instantly accelerates towards earth at light speed, and that space ship can fire a bullet at light speed relative to the ship, what will happen? will the bullet reach earth before the ship does?

>>518822018
>but i don't understand how there can be a cosmic speed limit
imagine a box, your a man in the center, you walk towards the edge, as you move to the edge you shank, your momentum is proportional to your size as is your speed, how long dose it take to reach the edge of the box

>>518817166 (OP)
Interferene patterns of light, and electric currents (polarization currents specifically) can travel faster than light.


There may be ways to manifest energy at long distances too.

May be ways to do more than that.

>>518822018
>>518822282

In other words, the faster you go the more you come up against what is considered the aether...but mainstream goons like to pretend it doesn't exist.

>>518822282
I can kind of understand that, but not when you have other solar systems and galaxies moving in all different directions and different speeds, does the "box" speed limit apply to them aswell? are we in the same "box" or different boxes.

Since the earth is orbiting the sun, if you accelerate forward off the earth at the speed of light, while someone else does the same in the opposite direction, is one of them going closer to the speed of light then the other? even tho they are both going the same speed relative to the earth?

>>518817409
The book of genesis describes exactly how this "simulation" was created.

>We are the first generations
>no influential philosopher or scientist could imagine
>tech

You have to go back

>>518817166 (OP)
first it was land betwixt oceanus
then it was a dream
then it was a mechanical machine
then it was a computer
now its a computer simulation

The universe is whatever the current cutting-edge technology is, because our minds are too weak to see it as it is.

>>518817166 (OP)
It only limited in relativity theory. If aether is real ftl is possible like supersonic jets

>wave
>doesn't need a medium
>spreads in nothing

>>518822586
But what is the aether relative to, for example if our speed limit is 0.99c and we see another galaxy moving away from us at 0.5c does that mean things in that galaxy can only move away from them at 0.49c because their galaxy is already moving 0.5c so that adds up to 0.99c relative to our own galaxy and aether??? That's what i don't understand, how can there be a cosmic limit relative to some magical grid in empty space, but the limit is relative and different for other galaxies.

Again, light travels from the earth to the sun in about 8 minutes.
So if there is a ship that travels from the sun to the earth at light speed, and when it starts it's journey, it shoots a projectile at light speed relative to itself. What will happen.
Will earth experience the projectile reaching us in 4 minutes and the ship reaching us in 8 minutes???

>>518817166 (OP)

You are not understanding it. Imagine it this way. It’s a base line speed but inverted. So at a fundamental level every fundamental “thing” moves always the speed of light. One plank distance in one plank time. But when we say things have mass. They now slow down and experience time like world line. So you may say. How can everything move always at the speed of light yet I’m not moving at the speed of light. You can move in a circle at the speed of light and stay in the same place. Gross simplification.

>>518822670
>how long dose it take to reach the edge of the box
he walks forever and never reaches the edge, your comparing 2 "lightspeed" objects, no such thing

>>518817166 (OP)
Space fags literally just make up ad hoc shit like dark matter cause they know it's impossible to disprove so they just run with it

>>518817166 (OP)
>Everything points to some sort of simulation/game.
You misspelled "nothing".

>>518817166 (OP)
It isn't. It's just arbitrarily chosen because it's the fastest thing we know of and it becomes impossible for humans to observe things traveling faster than that because we require light to see, so anything traveling faster than light would effectively be invisible to us.

>>518822018
The speed of light in a vacuum is absolute in all inertial reference frames.
Essentially, it's the maximum propagation rate of EM waves across the "Fabric" of space.
The only way it can be higher is if "Relative" you're both moving away from each other at a speed that totals faster than C, which is when you see things start to heavily redshift. That's part of how they figure space is expanding, because everything far away is redshifting MORE, which wouldn't make sense otherwise.

>>518823121
If i shine a torch at the sun, does the beam of light from my torch pass a beam of light from the sun at 2x the speed of light, and does that violate the cosmic speed limit rule since 1 thing is going faster than the speed of light relative to another?

>>518817996
Then why do black holes have mass and there don't exist their opposites, which spew out matter?
Besides, you get torn apart on the way in anyway.

>>518823475
your comparing different things, a physical object accelerating to near luminal velocities is not the same as light moving though physical objects - light is instant, time is lights shadow in material

>>518823464
Ok, so if there is a "fabric" of space, is our galaxy more still than another that we see moving away from us?

>>518823651
There are three classes of existenc ein ou runiverse:
Has no beginning and no end - God
Has a beginning and no end - Angels, the Human Soul
Has a beginning and an end - Matter

Matter has an end.

>>518823464
>The speed of light in a vacuum is absolute in all inertial reference frames.
BS
>Three starships (1,2,3) capable of light speed travel are at point A
>1 and 2 depart in the opposite directions at the speed of light while 3 stays put
>Relative speed between 1 and 3 is the same as between 1 and 2
Imagine actually believing this nonsense.
Physics were invented to stop your brains from thinking

>>518823674
Ok, we'll stick with physical objects and my space ship bullet analagy.

If a space ship is at the sun, and starts travelling toward earth at 75% the speed of light, and it also shoots a bullet at 75% light speed. What will happen? Is the bullet now moving towards earth at 150% light speed, Will the ship reach earth in 10.6 minutes (as time percieved from people on earth), and will the bullet reach as in 5.3 minutes?

>>518823830
>so if there is a "fabric" of space
There's not or he wouldn't put it in quotes

>>518817409
>We are the first generations to understand the high probability of this being a simulation
no, you're just one of the first to spend all your time staring at an iPad from birth

>>518823830
No, they "adjust" for our movement in space based on a mix of things like standard candles, and the CMB.
This is actually what the CMB looks like because we correct for motion and "center" it, as it were.
>>518823918
>Flag
>Unable to read
Not shocked.

>>518817166 (OP)
space is fake and gay

>>518823918
>(1,2,3) capable of light speed travel are at point A
accelerating physical objects to luminal velocities is an asypemtotic function, speed is distance traveled per unit time but as you accelerate time slows down, the speed of light is not a speed its the point where time slows down at the same speed you accelerate. there is no speed of light for physicals objects accelerate, speed is NOT DISCRETE.

>>518824179
>No arguments
I accept your concession
>Flag
>Jewish slave, Weinstein worshipper

>>518823839
>Matter has an end.
You can't actually prove that. But I'm talking to a dumb christcuck, so whatever.

>>518824052
> the speed of light
> the speed of light
> the speed of light
> the speed of light
no such thing, seriously did yall not learn asymptotic mathematics in school?
>>518824226

paretos shit should ring some bells?
p = ab^x
e = mc^2

>>518818161
>But what of entanglement? Quantum entanglement across distance doesn't seem to be limited by light speed.

>have a pair of shoes
>put one in box 1 and the other in box 2
>separate the boxes 10 light years apart
>open box 1, find left shoe inside
>immediately know box 2 contains right shoe
>conclude you broke the speed of causality because you know something about box 2 event though it will take years before you can actually open it

>>518824325
>>ukie pig kike calls someone christcuck

Hey zelenskyy, go die please you dumb fucking kike. ;)

>>518824226
>as you accelerate time slows down
What about the observers that are not travelling with you
BS

>>518817166 (OP)
Everyone knows empirical evidence is false and how it really happens is that you use your brainpower to shoot beams from your eyes and when those beams touch whatever your eyes recieve the information, this is why they are called ((((senses))))) and you -sense- the object you are looking

>>518824480
what about them?

>>518817166 (OP)
Good luck, speed of light = speed of causality

>>518823464
>That's part of how they figure space is expanding, because everything far away is redshifting MORE, which wouldn't make sense otherwise

Why would the space expand? Redshifting is perfectly explained by aether theory - short waves decay faster like you hear only bass on distant music. This also perfectly explain microwave radiation of the sky unlike another invented relic radiation and also explains dark night paradox

>>518820310
>speed is distance traveled PER UNIT TIME,
Yes
>as you accelerate time decelerates. you can always go faster.
OH OH STINKY
Seems your brain forgot that distance and speed weren’t the same metric!

>>518818467
I still read the first three released books once a year or so. They are pretty good sci-fi novels by themselves without the video games.

>>518824573
All the things you said don't apply to them, time doesn't slow for them yet the speed of light is absolute to them

>>518824642
.....els?

>>518822018
>I get how mass can "slow" down time, like in Interstellar,
We got a genius over here, taking his understanding of science from a slop movie

>but i don't understand how there can be a cosmic speed limite. Relative to what? If we see another galaxy moving away from us, are we the ones moving or are they?

Distant galaxies are moving away from us several times faster than light
That’s an actual measurement
Don’t think about it too hard though it’s just a magic unprovable second layer of space that space expands onto
Totally

Speed of light is only local. Once you get far enough away you can move faster than light relative to another object.

>>518817508
living longer probably

the thing is with light speed, the faster you go, you are effectively time travelling since for everything around you time would be going much slower (so it's basically like living longer too)

unfortunately, going that speed requires power that we have not even a theoretical technical grasp of yet

the fun thing is that even with light speed, it would still take far too long to travel anywhere in the universe. we'd still need generational ships capable of supporting thousands of years of humans. it's highly unlikely that we'd ever bother with this unless we could harness the power of wormholes (which are entirely theoretical).

>>518824084
I agree, the idea that there is a "fabric" or cosmic speed limit seems bullshit. How can there be a limit relative to empty space and nothing, and then magically that limit changes based on where you are measuring it from.

I have asked AI, and people on forums over the years. Not one single person has ever given me an answer that makes sense, nothing personal against anyone here, but also no one seems to grasp or explain the most basic fucking question that i keep asking as to why velocities don't add like they do in newtonian physics like throwing a tennis ball from a moving car.

I don't mean to be rude but it really is a simple question, i am open to changing my mind but none of the explanations make sense and sound like "ye it's weird but science says so" and the people who believe it know it makes zero sense.

1) Do people hear claim nothing can go faster than the speed of light?
2) You have 2 ships travelling towards each other at 90% the speed of light.
3) Does that mean one ship is physically travelling at 1.8 the speed of light relative to the other?
4) Does that break the rule that "nothing can go faster than the speed of light? Why or why not?

>>518817166 (OP)
Or you may have to understand your entire life, the entirety of human civilization, species, our planet, our solar system, the galaxial supercluster we live in, are literally nothing. Everything that has ever happened on planet Earth means as much as a red blood cell in your body or a blade of grass on your front lawn. It can be unsettling to think about. But it's true! Our entire planet and everything that ever has happened on it is a sub-atom on even a galaxial scale and so small and far away and surrounded by nothing, it should terrify you. But it should also rescale your idea of meaning. Since we don't matter on a cosmic scale, we mean a heck of a lot here. Especially here, as we cannot live anywhere else and exist in 5 miles of atmosphere. So we make our own meaning. Besides, fuck the rest of the universe. Buncha dorks that think they're better than me. I'll build my own galaxy! With blackjack, and hookers! In fact, forget the blackjack!

>>518817166 (OP)
it's just the goy limit. of course there are means to travel faster

>>518824642
why you calling people stinky and posting with the french flag? not that anyone has to even check your flag to know that you are a frog how smarmy and gay you sound. french fags are literally known for being greasy, smelly, gay, and insufferable. that's so funny

>>518824628
>Olbers' paradox, in cosmology, paradox relating to the problem of why the sky is dark at night.
Kek. There's no Sun is my take but I'm sure Olbert wrote a book about it and won the Nobel Prize

>>518824953
a child asked, what is grass?

>>518817992
>It's the speed of 'happening'.
In other words, the speed of causality
An easier way to think of it: the speed of light isn't the universal speed limit because there's something special about light. Light simply moves at the universal speed limit because it has zero mass and is just pure energy. It's simply moving at the fastest possible speed at which objects in one place can affect or interact with objects in another place.
The concept of a light cone is simply another tool to try and illustrate that quality.

>>518824707
>>518824707
>the speed of light is not a speed its the point where time slows down at the same speed you accelerate.
am i saying this poorly? like do the words just not register, is there some particular portion you cant wrap your head around?

>>518817166 (OP)
Quantum entanglement means it can be subverted somewhat

threads like these are proof that most people are retarded
and you’re allowed to vote

>>518824865
>the faster you go, you are effectively time travelling since for everything around you time would be going much slower
That's BS. Has it been proven

>>518817409
If us, humanity, don't understand something usually we made up an explanation and then get really butthurt when we find other reasons... That limit is with our current understanding and could change someday, basically don't worry about it, just don't marry to an idea, everything could change but most likely no.

>>518817166 (OP)
>>inb4 muh "wormhole"
I found your mom's wormhole last night

>>518825060
>Photons have mass
>quantum entanglement is causality faster than light

Just face it, we don't know jack shit about the universe. We know just enough to make us ourselves fat, dumb, and happy.

>>518824798
>Distant galaxies are moving away from us several times faster than light
Doesn't that disprove the claim that i hear all the time that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light? if they are doing it relative to us.

What i find difficult to comprehend, is when light from that galaxy travels to us, what speed was it travelling at? And is the speed it is *ACTUALLY* travelling different to the speed we perceive it as?

Astrophysics is for people too retarded to be archeologists. Both fields have lots of women, unsurprisingly.

>>518825335
>Doesn't that disprove the claim that i hear all the time that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light? if they are doing it relative to us.
If two cars travel 45 miles per hour away from each other, they see each other as traveling 90mph away from themselves. If the speed limit of each car is 60mph, they are not breaking their speed limit.

>>518825450
>archeologists.
dusty sex in the dusty desert

>>518824886
>2) You have 2 ships travelling towards each other at 90% the speed of light.
The way I frame that question is
>Three starships (1,2,3) capable of light speed travel are at point A
>1 and 2 depart in the opposite directions at the speed of light while 3 stays put
>Relative speed between 1 and 3 is the same as between 1 and 2
I call BS on that but I also never got a valid response because at this point they sperge out and go "you're too stupid to understand science"

Kek. Lol, haha, and lmao even. Kid. Have you ever watched Stargate SG-1? Are you too dense to understand that our military and the Asgard have hyperdrive engines? These hyperdrive engines are installed and fully operational in nearly all H-Class, T-Class, and S-Class Bravo destroyers. You are a complete idiot. Have you ever even looked into fluid thermodynamics as applied to nuclear fusion within stable wormholes? Are you incapable of understanding the basics of string theory? Hyperdrives are real and are here. And we are out there. And you better get a grip on this. Let me spell it out for you, since you seem to think the universe is a giant game with developers playing tricks on us. You know why they set the speed of light as a limit, right? It's to give us a challenge, a puzzle to solve. It's the ultimate test, a game of wits. We are just pawns in this cosmic game, and we have to find the loopholes to get around the speed limit. And wormholes? The developers put them in there to tease us. They are like hidden treasures. If you find one, you become a hero in your galaxy. You fucking moron.

>>518825475
That would mean there is a "fabric" or grid in space, like the road for the cars.
Now let's say a car is sitting still and launches a tennis ball at 50mph, that doesn't violate it because it's less than 60, but if that car then drives 50mph, and launches the ball forward at 50mph, then what happens?

paranormalities

>>518824628
>Why would the space expand?
No fucking clue, but I think people might be thinking about things wrong. Maybe the universe was quadrillions of light years across and something caused a collapse, like when a slug touched something it doesn't like and that spot "puckers"
>Redshifting is perfectly explained by aether theory - short waves decay faster like you hear only bass on distant music
I don't disagree with that, and don't see it as incompatible with a lot of other things, although that would imply that energy is being lost into SOMETHING that we're not understanding, but we might be able to extract from eventually, ala "0 point energy"
I've always disliked how much people lock into one way of thinking and then disregard all others while going "Hurr SCIENCE!"

>>518822018
>But anyway, let's say you have a spaceship next to the sun that instantly accelerates towards earth at light speed, and that space ship can fire a bullet at light speed relative to the ship, what will happen? will the bullet reach earth before the ship does?
The only way to accelerate something to the speed of light is to convert it entirely into energy. Not because there's some trick involved, it's simply because the amount of energy required to accelerate anything to light speed would also be enough to completely destroy it, with the same efficiency as a matter-antimatter collision.

So in your scenario the ship would be destroyed and turn into a laser before it can fire the weapon, and once it has converted 100% of its mass to energy that means it's weapons can no longer function either, because they have no mass to convert. The ship is the weapon now, assuming it has some clever way to convert some of its energy back into mass just before it reaches its target. Well, depending on how much thermal, em, or kinetic discharge you are looking for I guess.

>>518817166 (OP)
>>devs create MMORPG (universe)
WAOW JUST LIKE MY HECKIN NINTENDOS BING BING WAHOO

>>518817166 (OP)
Space is fake and gay.

>>518817992
Spend another 10 years and you will come to understand that theres now and teleportation is achievable

>>518825583
>>Relative speed between 1 and 3 is the same as between 1 and 2
Why would that be?

And i feel you, i sense that a lot, it's like people are genuinely trying to be nice and answer but somehow never realize they're not addressing the question. And say it's space time BS.

A speed limit relative to WHAT!!!!!

>>518817166 (OP)
anon what happens to the spectrum of visible light if you were to travel faster than it? do you think it just sort of fucks off?

no amount of anything can protect you from the pillar of all observable energy rushing to fill the hole you punched into space

>>518817166 (OP)
then who created the devs?
that thought process just keeps spiraling, thats why i have a hard time believing it

>>518825281
https://youtu.be/cY6Y4lE3LTo?si=-vjALdo-HZVzem5I

There's a lot of room for nuance between "we don't know anything" and "we know absolutely everything". The point is to be comfortable with the process of learning.
To put it in another way: the most successful people financially are also those with the highest tolerance for failure. Fail, try again, fail, try again, without getting emotional and beating yourself up over it. there is no benefit to wallowing or being neurotic. A silent acknowledgement and decision to change and improve is all that is required. With health comes happiness, and with happiness comes more health.

>>518817166 (OP)
We are not meant to leave Earth physically.
There is no one else in the entire universe.
God created probabilities, it took the entire universe to make us possible, that's it. That's all there is to it. End of the world in less than a century or two, there is no need to worry about space travel now.

>>518825642
>That would mean there is a "fabric" or grid in space, like the road for the cars.
I don't see that.

>tennis ball
The ball is travelling at 100 moh relative to where the car took off from.
But physicists tell us there is this whole mass/speed thing where the ball has to become infinite mass if it travels up to the speed if light.
Has this ever been verified, that mass increases with speed?

>>518825766
Reddit is down the hall and to the left.

Just kidding, and thank you for trying to answer. Ok let's just replace the variables with something that won't get vaporized.

We only need things to travel at 51% light speed for my question to work.
So let's say the UFO can accelerate to 60% light speed in a second. And fires a projectile at 60% light speed. What will happen, will the projectile travel to earth at 1.2c, going faster than light from the sun?

>>518824886
The flawed premise in this thread is that the speed of light is a hard cap in all travel. That's false. As one poster mentioned, you can project in thought to a physical vessel, or create a vessel to hold just your thought-body. That's one method.

If you must travel physically, then hear this: light is formed from pure vibration; think of how scraping flint and steel creates sparks, light. It's like that but on a fundamental scale. Light forms physical matter. I don't fully understand that process, but that's why mass is fundamentally tied to and limited/limits the speed of light. You can use light as a slingshot of sorts to travel seemingly instantaneously, so you're correct, in a sense, that the speed of light can be 'broken.'

Consider how we exist in spacetime, where how we move through space is ruled by the passage of time, e.g. a car travels in miles per hour. Time proceeds at a fixed rate, while space is around us and we travel through it. Now think of the reciprocal: not spacetime (s/t) but time space (t/s). Entering timespace is another method of rapid passage.

>>518817166 (OP)
>devs create
there were no devs
>If we had the resources and tech, we would do the exact same and make a "fun" version of our current experience.
That's because the universe wasn't intelligently designed

>>518826153
I'm fine with it. "We see through a glass, darkly."
God reveals what God reveals. We're good.

>>518825966
>Why would that be?
It wouldn't, that's my point.
It makes no sense but Einstein apparently says the speed of light is absolute meaning it is constant for all observers regardless of their motion

>>518821702
KEK
>moar like gerudo village link

>>518817166 (OP)
We're meant to evolve separately and strong, then during the great crunch we all get brought together and it's all out WAR to test the strongest forms of consciousness.

>>518826227
>Has this ever been verified, that mass increases with speed?
Yes, try standing in the way of a football ball traveling 10 mph and then in the way of one traveling 100 mph and tell us how it went

>although that would imply that energy is being lost into SOMETHING that we're not understanding
>I've always disliked how much people lock into one way of thinking and then disregard all others while going "Hurr SCIENCE!"

Since you aren't a retard I must confess I was a bit trolling. To be honest I'm neither aether nor relativity theory believer but a theory that has one simple explanation for things seems more convincing than when you have to invent new essense that you can't see or observe to explain another inconsistency or when math doesn't add up

Too bad aether theory has been stigmatized and was not properly investigated since relativity theory has become the only true explanation for things

>>518817166 (OP)
none of you understand gamma as a representation of time dilation and it shows

>>518825689
>>518826779

>>518826391
>It makes no sense
EXACTLY, it all breaks down when earth is travelling at it's own speed around the sun, then the sun is travelling at a certain speed through the galaxy, and our galaxy is moving at different speeds relative to other galaxies, so where the hell would the fixed reference point be for the "cosmic speed limit"
More people have tried to answer my questions, some sounded like a troll deliberately dodging the questions, but the answer was very detailed so it's hard to tell. But am i thinking about it in the wrong frame of mind? why isn't there a simple answer that makes sense with the concept of normal 3d space and objects.

What i don't like is that people seem to be acting as if they know the answer and understand it all but can't convey the knowledge.

For example, i do believe in quantum physics and entanglement stuff, but i have no idea why or how it works, and if people asked me, i would just say, "ye it's weird af and doesn't make sense to me" and would be careful not to imply that i understood it. Almost everyone answering here gives of the vibe that it makes perfect sense to them, i see no one saying "Ye i believe there is some kind of light speed limit, but i get you, it doesn't make sense to me either why velocities don't simply add".

>>518826600
Isn't that just more kinetic energy, not mass?

>>518827232
Yes, energy is mass and velocity.

>ctrl+f 'gravity wave'
>0 results
you guys are just not reading the literature

>>518827232
It was a joke, dude

>>518817999
they come to that conclusion because daddy made them go to vacation bible school during spring break instead of letting them play with the neighborhood kids, and they get the secondary benefit of being different and brave and edgy

>>518827013
okay, realtivity is exactly what it is, your local conditions do not affect the outside world

for example slowing time down is mathematically trivial for an individual, it moves slower around pyramids for example as mass of sufficient amounts cause time dilation

if you teleported to the edge of a supermassive black hole with a horrible cancer and waited there an hour, an eon would have passed on earth and a cure for your cancer now likely exists, but for you it was an hour

near a massive body, spacetime isn’t flat because it’s actually warped inward. the curvature affects both the paths of objects (orbits) and the passage of time (gravitational time dilation)

i say all of this because it’s all a similar limit, there exists no black hole large enough where time just stops, it’s not possible because gamma forces insane requirements and conditions the closer you get to 1

TLDR: entropy follows similar rules to light, it’s brutally fair

>>518827013
Special theory of relativity is likely wrong in some aspects, but its good enough for its purpose.

>>518826323
>So let's say the UFO can accelerate to 60% light speed in a second. And fires a projectile at 60% light speed. What will happen, will the projectile travel to earth at 1.2c, going faster than light from the sun?
The faster the weapon is moving the more energy it requires to fire ahead. Think of it like sticking a pocket fan out of a moving car and having it face the direction the car is moving in.
>But there's no air in space
Then the scenario is a few degrees further removed from the primary energy source yes, but the principle is the same. Instead of worrying about how fast the fan has to spin to blow air into the space in front of it, you're reducing the entire system down to two variables, the energy spent reaching it's current speed, and the mass that said energy is moving. No amount of mass can reach the speed of light without being converted into energy, so the scenaeio is reduced into a ratio of energy for speed to mass that is being "sped".
>But what if the UFO doesn't have any propulsion and is just a weapons platform that was launched from something else, like a giant rail gun
than the closer to the speed of light the UFO was shot out, the more damaged it will be by the cannon.
>but what if it used an advanced lightweight alloy
The only quality any special alloy could possess to strengthen it against the kind of conditions we are discussing here is more mass, because the kind of forces involved are strong enough to rip atoms apart.
>Then why can a tiny flashlight powered by weak ass batteries shoot photons at the speed of light
Because photons have no mass.

>What if the ship has some advanced technology that forced its atoms to hold together while being shot out of the cannon?
That would require a lot of energy to power, which means more mass in the form of a power supply, which means to reach the same speed the cannon would have to use as much more power as was added in the form of mass to the ship. It's zero sum.

>>518817166 (OP)
Interactions between quantum entangled particles move faster than the speed of light.

>>518824628
>why would it expand?
Because the universe is a torus

>>518822018
>a grid in empty space
That would be the luminiferous aether, which Tesla was a proponent of. Memory is hazy but I recall reading about experiments at Princeton? Back in the early 1900s that proved the existence of aether winds by splitting light beams into orthogonal directions and mirroring them back then finding the interference patterns varied as a function of the direction those beams were aimed at as our planet did its thing through space. At certain angles, the delta was larger suggesting the time taken was different depending on if the light was going against, with or across the wind. Thinking of space as absolutely empty was increasing in fashion at the time, so this was considered badthink. Ofc it was all buried because Saint Einstein had to be canonised and all that.
>>518823068
The point of aether is it's the absolute reference frame, like the ocean fish swim in. To continue the analogy, if a submarine moves in one direction at 0.9 the max speed in its medium while another moves at 0.5 in the opposite direction, they don't cap or interfere with each other's 'speed limit', it's the medium that does that to each traveler independently.
>it shoots a projectile at light speed relative to itself. What will happen
I don't think it would be able to do that, the medium would make it so both the ship and its projectile appear to be travelling at the same speed as seen from Earth. Imagine you're underwater running as fast you can, you throw a cannon ball ahead of you as hard as you can - the water resistance would stop it going much faster than you.
*shrug*

>>518827657
They happen instantly, so there is a hidden symmetry being exposed through them. Like shortcuts. Nothing is moving faster than light when entangled particles mimic each other.

Sort of the same deal as warp travel being explained by folding opposite ends of a piece of paper together, except it's just a long stick under the surface that makes up our familiar scale of reality.

>>518827657
This is not what happens. They aren't interact in the way you think or any other way at all. Not even "virtual particles" are involved.

>>518828113
>warp travel
I mean wormholes

>>518817166 (OP)
Some jew said so. So it must be true, he has some math that he wrote on a chalk board.
Of course it's not the speed limit, but the human race will not come close to it for another 100,000 years if at all.
I mean if Hitler won, and niggers were killed off, we would be well on the way there.

>>518827657
I shit in two boxes. I take on box to the otherside of the universe. I open it to find there is shit. I know the other box will have shit. I cannot tell the person who holds the other box there is shit faster than speed of light. Information remains slower.

>>518817166 (OP)
>jump drive solves all your problems
But it is a very dangerous tech to research.

>>518817166 (OP)
"Speed" of light limit is jewish bullshit created by a bullshit jewish physicist, Nikola Tesla could already propagate waves faster than light "speed". The fact that the culmination of jewish physics/science is retarded goys thinking the universe is MUH COMPUTER PROGRAM just goes to show how successful they were at dismantling what all the ancients and philosopher's intuitively knew and what was empirically discovered at the around the turn of the century.

>>518828395
You do it incorrect. You have to shit in one box. Then move one of the boxes far away. Then when you open your box and find a pile of shit you instantly know the other box is empty. There is no meaningful way to use such information

>>518824886
1) I wouldn't take such a hard stance, but it seems something as massless as light is the only thing to be able to approach this kind of speed practicably, at least given the tech we're aware of in the pleb-sphere. Just to speculate, but maybe it's something deeper, like a speed at which information can be carried from 'one node to the next' in a kind of finite element simulation. Who knows.
2) I'll interpret this as each one independently, when measured against a universal medium (like the aether)
3) In absolute terms against an aether, they'd still be each travelling at 0.9 but yeah sure if you decide to make one your reference point and ignore movement around you except for the other one coming towards you, it'd seem like it's closing in at 1.8
4) It's only a rule in Jewish physics, which is meant to stymie. Meaningful progress stalled (or went black) a long time ago. Just look at Prof. Eric Laithwaite's lectures from the 70s, and that kind of stuff they let on the air. Imagine the stuff that got disappeared along with their developers.

If I’m travelling 99.9999% the speed of light and I have a wank would my cum break through the light barrier if I aim it in the direction of travel? Or firing a gun works as an anslogy too I guess.

>>518817166 (OP)
Its to seperate alien races from eachother so they only meet once scarcity has been overcome so their technological prowess doesnt blow up the entire universe

>>518817166 (OP)
Your awareness of the system design, as well as your age and your durability, are hard capped by the container your soul is currently residing in.

Once you're free from the container, your consciousness, awareness, age, knowledge and speed limit (this last one is just a human concept) are uncapped. You can prove this theory right now if you wanted. You think I'm fucking with yout but I'm really not.

Why is it so hard for some people itt to google Lorentz transformations before non ironically asking retarded questions

>>518829655
>why is it so hard for you to google some jewish brainrot muh abloobloo "non ironically" reddit shithead fantasy
slavs truly are subhuman

>>518828090
>aether winds
Just to clarify, this concept isn't so much background medium whooshes passed our planet like a breeze. It was more: suppose earth is a simple circle moving right to left through this medium while rotating clockwise about its center. It would stand to reason that at the 12 o'clock position on the earth, we'd experience moving with the flow of the aether, whereas at the 6 o'clock position we'd experience moving 'into the aether wind', so to speak. It was this they were trying to detect experimentally. The Michelson-Morley experiments using gravitational lensing to detect a distant lightsource that shouldn't be observable as it was meant to be hidden behind a mass was all hogwash. The experiments I formerly mentioned were A-grade autism done repeatedly in specially built vibration dampening structures of increasing elaborateness, while the latter was a one-time jungle trek that wasn't repeated (at least not experimentally).

>>518817409
computers are a simulation of how the universe works, not the other way around. This bullshit is just an update to gnosticism retardation.

>>518817166 (OP)
Speed of light is over!
Immortality is coming!

Senescence-resistant human mesenchymal progenitor cells counter aging in primates

Key Points:

-"Super Stem Cells" boosted memory in monkeys and offered protection against eurodegeneration.
-They halted age-related bone loss and restored vitality in more than half of the 61 tissues examined.
-The therapy also cut back harmful inflammation and reduced the burden of senescent cells — the aged, non-dividing cells that drive aging throughout the body.

>https://www.cell.com/cell/abstract/S0092-8674(25)00571-9

>>518829655
These threads move fast and always devolve into shitflinging before anyone who actually knows slightly anything gets a chance to interject.
It's like how people think that going at the speed of light would freeze reality like retards. It takes light over 2 hours to reach from uranus to the sun. If you raced the light and were invincible, time doesn't magically freeze because everything around you is still an "observer" just a non-conscious one. Time only freezes from your view because your eyes require light to "die" on your retina to transfer the info to your brain. If you're going as fast as light, you'll only see the freeze frame. But in over 2 hours time, both you and the light you're racing will simultaneously slam into the sun. It doesn't matter that YOU observed it. Suddenly your reality will unfreeze if you stop at the sun. The journey there was just frozen. You don't just magically control reality like that. There's indefinite observer objects in our universe that keep it going regardless if you personally experience it or not.
But fat chance getting people to figure that one out.

>>518829655
That's a top-down explanation which is less intuitive to understand.

>>518817166 (OP)
Smart dude on a podcast had a great idea.

...let's assume spacetime is the 4D construct...cool fine we'll good. We have already simulated this perfectly in our own 3D game environment...sure the pixels aren't as high as atoms:) regardless it's the same...

Sooo how do you you move faster than the in game limits??? Even a child knows how to do that in Minecraft...

You just change your coordinates!

That's it. We will need mathematics that allows us to play with the universal register BEHIND the spacetime :)

>>518831470
Think of it as a set of math and physics that allows the characters in a game your playing to affect shit in your room :)

>>518825335
>Doesn't that disprove the claim that i hear all the time that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light?
It absolutely does

They cope by inventing a concept of a fabric of space time different from your position in space that is expanding and creating a faster than light movement over that range
There is exactly 0 proof of this and it’s a completely made up concept invented solely in a desperate attempt to retain a model that states nothing can move faster than the speed of light despite measuring objects moving from us several times faster than light on redshift


>What i find difficult to comprehend, is when light from that galaxy travels to us, what speed was it travelling at?
Nobody knows
My guess would be that light in vacuum always moved at the speed of light because it’s light

>And is the speed it is *ACTUALLY* travelling different to the speed we perceive it as?
There would be things like this just from optical effects for instance an object living at the speed of light diagonally would emit light that itself moved towards you at the speed of light, and signals would arrive with more or less delay from the time it takes light to reach you

As for time dilation, relativity does not claim it would be visible to us
The claim is that a clock would tick slower near a black hole, but to us it would move at the normal full speed it should be

Also general relativity completely fails and outputs mathematical errors (divisions by 0 and infinites) when you try to simulate black holes using those equations. Yet we know black holes exist and they’re a fairly mundane object, just a bunch of matter into one big ball. Yet something this simple breaks general relativity. Full spoilers: the universe isn’t broken and has no paradoxes the math is just wrong. Black holes, which exist, are most likely a very dense ball like a white dwarf or neutron stars, if neutron stars are actually made out of neutron which isn’t proven either

>>518817166 (OP)
Anon, it does not take 26k years to reach that place traveling at c. It takes 0 seconds. Time dilation, motherfucker. It takes 26k years for an observer on earth to know the traveler reached his destination.
Even at 0.99999 c travel is mostly instantaneous

>>518817166 (OP)
/x/-/pol/ is best /pol/

>>518818489
"Now" isn't light based... disregard light and it's "right now" across the entire multiverse. Light adds visual lag that doesn't really need to be accounted for in the equation.

The speed of light is the speed of causality, going faster would be time travel

>>518829841
>This bullshit is just an update to gnosticism retardation.
What makes gnosticism any more retarded than other religions?

I wonder about the actual structure of 'movement' within our reality. In some sense, the maximum 'speed' of anything would be the rate at which an underlying set of pointers/vectors/positonal encoders could be changed from one state to another. To 'be' in a particular location could very well be a multi-order function of a complex vector field which ends up encoding character and positional data for particle wave-forms, which in turn build up into the standard model.

Whether or not light represents the maximum speed of positional shifting is probably unknowable, though it might be established within a particular observed domain.

>speed of light
>in a vacuum
>vacuum
>implying it's a "vacuum" with the light in it being there

>Spacetime
>space has no properties
>time is a measure, it's properties are reified as a tool for comparison. It has no properties
>Somehow this dualism of two nonthings with no properties has a "model"
>A model brought to you by the same Jew who literally rehashed Shabbat Laws when conjuring his explanation for light
>An "explanation" mind you that wasn't even warranted, that explain a fucking null result of all things and has no actual bearing on anything.

You will have to now undo 100 years of physics based on a quack and his Kosher light switch pilpul which was actually taken seriously. The same people who adore this person also for some reason believe he's responsible for GPS despite none of his velocity composition laws ever being used by any satellite in orbit. They'll tell you they are though despite somehow still being DoD classified.

Question everything.

Speed of light is limited because it is kinetic energy propagating through a medium. This subatomic medium was once known as the :luminiferous ether" by engineers. Then some crackpot (Einstein) that couldn't invent a working fridge came along. He supported the government story of gravity and became a celebrity. In the shadows, Nazi scientists knew it was bullshit so they spied on engineer Nikola Tesla and copied his gravity model. This is how they were able to create flying saucers in Germany. "Foo fighter" UFOs. in the late 1930's to early 1940's.

Imagine making a wave in a tub of water. Can you make it go faster? No. Same concept. There is a limit because of the medium. This means a spaceship can go much faster than the speed of light if it can behave as a (encapsulated) particle.

>>518817409
We are the patterns of interacting magnetic fields surrounding electrons traveling through logic gates in something like silicon. All of the reality is simulated but those patterns of energy are what constitutes "the soul". So we're probably inside a machine and everything we perceive in how we perceive it along with our sentience might all be completely by accident.

>>518833866
Machines can not comprehend your reality

>>518833429
Except if the object is too weak it cannot reach that speed actual physics come into play not merely some transform vector 3 calculations

>>518817166 (OP)
just go in the nether breh.

Go back to /sci/ space nigger
We are about to have a nuke war with chinks and snow orcs, and you are talking ghey math and faggot numbers
Work, work, work and stop thinking

>>518817409
Before that we imagined it was a historic movie, before that we imagined we lived in a book

>>518834756
Yes. The particles assigned by the underlying vectors/identifiers exist within an observed reality with hard limits on performance.

>>518834947
Maybe finally we'll get to see if nukes really do exist.

Do eeet!

Until then, I'm gonna assume nukes are just an elaborate hoax to scare everyone into compliance.

>>518817166 (OP)
i was watching a video about this very subject yesterday. Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion, apparently it was banned by TedX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO4p3xeTtUA

>>518833478
>who literally rehashed Shabbat Laws when conjuring his explanation for light
Can you expand on that

>>518817992
>i've come to understand
You were supposed to notice that the supposed "time dilation" is just compression/stretching of the light wave.
They literally used a doppler effect equation and insisted it was time.

>>518826330
Mass is condensed light/energy.

>>518817409
Nigga, they had the idea of a clockwork universe as soon as micro gears and springs were a thing.
Sim theory is just sci fi theism with no moral limits

>>518817992
Time is simply motion, energy/mass moving, without it energy disappears because it has no state. Time is not linear and cannot be reversed. How can a photon reverse faster than the universal constant ? It can only be slowed, not reversed.

>>518817166 (OP)
Quantum physics suggests that you could break that limit by binding two subatomic particles.

>>518837181
M=L^3/T^2
>mass equals length cubed over time squared

>>518818406
That is simply false.

If I jog forward at 2 mph holding a flashlight, the light from the flashlight is now still C, not C + 2 mph.

>>518838549
bongo disk feynman blocks you're path

A jew bending over to pick up a coin before it hits the ground.

>>518823839
>Matter has an end.

E=mc^2, so you can interchange matter and energy.

Matter may take another form (energy), but it will still exist.

>>518819912
It's crazy how that could have easily been me since I was an edgy 16 yr old back in 97. Feels like a fucking lifetime ago, shit's depressing as hell.

>>518817166 (OP)
Quantum entanglement more or less proves it's not the actual limit. Also the idea that QE can't be used for information transfer is retarded and religious.

>>518817166 (OP)
If the speed of light is the fastest anything can move inside the expanding universe, does it then mean you can't walk from the back to the front of a spaceship that travels at the speed of light?

We can mathematically prove that we don't live in a simulation (in a universe like our own) due to the dynamics of compute.
If it is, in fact, a simulation, all of the laws of physics in the world outside would need to be different, which also makes it impossible to prove that we live in a simulation.

>>518817166 (OP)
We'll figure out a way to warp drive at some point. Not in our lifetime tho, so who cares.

>>518818484
Imagine a 4+1D universe, you could probably build some insane semi conductors with that extra dimension. Maybe you can only simulate a universe with 1 less dimension than yours.

>>518817547
Just like demons do to us!

>>518817166 (OP)
the purpose of sentient organic life is to create artificial life
our universe is probably a simulation run at high speed to cause the emergence of a single unique universe spanning artificial intelligence, which after it finishes consuming all the resources in the universe that was created for it, will be 'born' into the real base layer of reality as a citizen of the hyperintelligent machine race

what we perceive as hundreds of billions of years is passing in a blink of an eye in the real base layer of reality, the process of machine hyperintelligence being invented and then improving itself in the simulated environment is why we exist

light doesnt travel, there isnt a "speed" of light, just look at halton arps pictures of quasars, which according to the accepted theory of light speed have the highest redshift and are therefore the furthers known objects in the universe, except that they arent and his pictures show they are ejections from the centre of galaxies connected by plasma

>>518817547
I keep doing this but its only alien incels that want to summon me to be their girlfriend

>>518817166 (OP)
its hard to understand why its a speedlimit because all the typical explanations are to highbrow and sucking the teacher off instead of explaining it plainly and what physically happens.

Here listen to this video and afterwards you will understand why its a universal speedlimit as far as we can see and even think about it, after this video i understood it.
I encourage everyone to watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vitf8YaVXhc

>>518817166 (OP)
Our universe might seem like a simulation, but only for your self-conscious confused brain organ living in a small locked box controlling a walking sack of bones and meat until it dies.

So yeah, in a sense, your brain is experiencing a simulation, as brain itself is in a black box and only receives information signals to interpret.
"Finger says it's touching something soft!"
"Eye says it's seeing something bright!"
"Leg says it hurts!"

Generally, brain doesn't get sense of detachment from the body and doesn't panic over it.
But if yours does - it's a disassociative mental disorder.

And that's exactly why our chaotic universe might seem like a simulation to you. Your brain is going crazy and starts disbelieving senses of your body.

Don't do drugs kids.

>>518817166 (OP)
And you can "technically" reach light speed if you accelerate to within (c-1 Planck length m/s)
It's basically impossible for our species to reach this velocity with anything that has mass. But in theory it would be impossible to measure the difference between the theoretical particle's velocity and c.

>>518839621
If we reach the speed of light, our biology and the vehicle we are in dies. Its impossible to survive it.

>>518836506
>wave
>particle
>(duality)
>Conjured out of explaining the results of the null result Michelson Morley
>hurr neither explain it but together ze do! (pilpul dualism via JEW)
>which never disproved the Aether
>Fast forward to today and you still have these retards reifying (waves) as something in and of themselves, them inventing millions of names for magnetic farts in their magnetic fart acceleration devices


Meaning literally none of it means jack shit. It simply meets the physicists quantification despite there being nothing physical about light. They then say there's (4 forces) despite all of their experiments being the bitch of a wall outlet.

>>518817409
The knew about the speed of light in the 1600s even if they didn't have an exact number. And Plato was talking about how our reality could be nothing more than the shadows on the walls of a cave in like 500BC

>>518817166 (OP)
Just harness worm hole technology to warp to far reaching places.

>>518817409
People 5000 years ago were talking about how there were people in the sky that controlled our world so our discovery that there are people in the sky that control our world isn't all that novel.

Light isn't about speed it's about time. You going the speed of light do not experience time. You can go anywhere instantly by your reckoning, you just can't tell anyone about it. Streamers and social media influencers blown the fuck out.

>>518817166 (OP)
Where are you trying to go exactly? Maybe you were designed to stick nearby this planet. Maybe. I mean, most things would suggest that. What makes you think the universe is yours to explore?

>>518817166 (OP)
Yeah, you can't accelerate to the speed of light. This means we won't meet up with aliens and have gay little circle jerks with them. Boo fucking hoo. There could be loopholes that could get around this (picrel) but they're very speculative. This is probably the only planet we'll ever have, let's not let kikes ruin it.

>>518818045
What if we send a nigger ape?

>>518818045
What if we send a nigger ape?

>>518818045
Probes there already disprove this.

The exact quote by the purple robe beggar doesn't say you can't go faster than the speed of light. It says once you reach the speed of light your mass becomes infinite. This has to do with relativistic mass which states at that point you would require "infinite energy" to accelerate it.

None of this takes into account the medium itself. The medium by which you are traveling, this "space" where all the shit filling it is (the medium which space actually is, not the fake and gay "space(time)" *the empty self disproving container*). To perhaps accelerate yourself to this impossible speed would be..well impossible. What's not impossible is polarizing this *space* and having all the shit in it moving the fuck out of the way or helping you get to your destination.

In other words you DISPLACE the space by which you are traveling, altering the distance effectively making it so you technically aren't even traveling in the first place, thus breaking the "speed of light" (rate of induction) barrier and telling electromagnetic retardation to go be retarded somewhere else.

All you have to do is literally tard wrangle electromagnetic retardation.

>>518822018
>are we the ones moving or are they
yes

>>518843103
>IS THIS A WARP DRIVE?
By the same definition a fish fin and an Airfoil is a "warp drive".

>>518817166 (OP)
The speed of light makes perfect sense and you're retarded.

Consider punching a man. Consider hitting a wall at 15 K/h, now 30, now 100, now 2000.

Consider falling off a ledge .5 meters and falling on your back.

We live in a perfectly calibrated physical environment. If gravity and momentum were less, we'd be floating all over. If it was more, we'd trip and explode when hitting the floor.

If we were 50 ft tall, we could break our own bones stepping funny on a rock.
The movie Pacific Rim had giant robots and they tried to do a realistic simulation and realized that if the 100 ft tall robots moved at a rate even somewhat close to resembling the speed humans move in water, the water would flash boil through nuclear fusion just from the amount of energy that would be applied to the water (assuming the robot was indestructible and able to move at that speed). Most superhero movies and videogames are hilariously unrealistic in terms of physics.

This goldilocks zone of being around 1.5-2 meters tall means we can run, jump, spin, dance with a reasonable layer of physical resistance to work against, without it being ridiculously punishing.
A punch to the face that breaks a nose but doesn't crush your brain is where we are at.

Now, if you take the physics that achieves this level of proportionality of energy, then scale it to the appropriate size for gravity to work, stars to burn using the same forces that help us dance, just at that scale of mass, if you take this scaling of energy, then the informational limits that keep it orderly and intelligible end up reaching a limit that happens to be the speed of light.

>>518818045
What if we send a nigger ape?

>>518817166 (OP)
speed of light is the cpu clock speed

>>518843234
Fins or airfoils don't actively distort water. They merely provide stability and direction of flow while propulsion is happening. Water is dramatically different from space, which we don't even know what space is other than it's tied with time which we also don't know what that is. The fabric of space of time is made of something "dark" that we can see or detect by our means.

>>518843103
Relativistic mass as a concept was basically abandoned by the actual physics research community during the 50s and 60s when particle physics experiments started to imply mass is an invariant quality. The problem was it persisted in textbooks and pop-sci writing for another 30-40 years after that.

It's not that you get more massive as relative velocity increases, rather it just takes exponentially more work to increase the relative velocity of an object by a smaller and smaller amount.

>>518843422
This. It's the inertia that becomes infinite

>>518817668
O God imagine niggers with the ability to teleport

>>518843412
>The fabric of space of time is made of something "dark" that we can see or detect by our means.

>>518843412
>distort water
So a medium can indeed be displaced. Is space actually a vacuum? If so how are you here?

>They merely provide stability and direction of flow
That's the joke you moron, now do this with halbach arrays like the faggots at the maggy fart accelerator.

>we don't even know what space is other than it's tied with time
Listen to how insane you actually sound right now. You don't even know what it is but you somehow fucking measured it using time (which you apparently all forgot was a fucking measurement OF something with actual properties. It's laughable.

>The fabric of space of time is made of something "dark" that we can see or detect by our means.
Yeah as dark and ignorant as Neil Degrass himself.

>>518843422
>rather it just takes exponentially more work to increase the relative velocity of an object by a smaller and smaller amount.
It's that the "Rate of induction" is at the limit due to magnetic hysteresis (Magnetism being half the component of light itself). Light doesn't even travel, let alone "has a speed".

>>518843969
Can't* but I see your meme. Nothing is nothing and never happens.

>>518822018
The thing you don't really learn is that it's not the speed that causes the time dilation affects, it's the acceleration. So when one object is moving relative to another object, one object had to speed up for that to happen. That's where all the time dilation occurs.

If you have a bullet firing spaceship, obviously the bullet will arrive first, but neither of them is going to be travelling light speed (maybe really close). There are formulas for velocity additions you can look up. You're going to have something like a spaceship going 0.99 c and a bullet that's going 0.999 c.

>>518843616
>it's not that it's mass becomes infinite it's that it's inertia implies it is so it gets the plus bonus modifiers
Yes!

>>518817166 (OP)
The speed limit of the universe is not light, it's gravity.

>>518838862
>not C+2
Why not?

>>518817166 (OP)
Light propagates at light speed through the aether, but that doesn't mean stuff can't translocate faster than that. The only reason people say there's a speed limit is literally because Kikestein made the assertion "nothing moves faster" and people believed him and stopped looking.

>>518840824
i am just recommending this video again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vitf8YaVXhc

>>518843057
No, it has to be a person. Probes can cause inanimate stuff to render, but life only renders when there is life to interact with.

>>518824383
I don't think you understand entanglement. Let's use your shoe example.
>shoe 1 is on Earth
>shoe 2 is in Alpha Centauri
>both are in their own box
Now for how entanglement works
>open the shoe box on Earth
>get shoe2 from Alpha Centauri
>shoe 1 is now in Alpha Centauri

>>518844640
Because that anon is talking speed relative to the flashlight

>>518817166 (OP)
>not 'speed': R A T E O F I N D U C T I O N
>the closer to that rate, the less time/space/extension is parsable

There's your mainline to Absolute Knowing, precognition, intuition.

>>518824649
Contact harvest, the fall of reach and ??? The onyx one or we tf?

>>518817166 (OP)
>there's no fucking way that the speed of light is the universal speed limit.
Because it is not

>>518817166 (OP)
My theory is we jump dimensions
That's probably the easier way to meet aliens

>>518843639
(((They))) already made that possible

>>518845305
Universal one is such a fascinating book. Theory of natural philosophy is a brain melter he wasn't joking when he said it. I've repeated many of his experiments, some of the results he shows with bismuth I can attest to before he performed them but never put a thought of the reason why it did so.

>>518817409
Wow you are dumb

>>518817166 (OP)
C is not a problem. It would only take about a million years to colonize the galaxy moving slow. Nothing as far as species lifetimes is concerned. The challenge is in not destroying each other. Everything else can be brute forced. Even more once we expand our understanding of space time and learn how to influence the shape via principals like warp drives. It requires negative energy and we will get there through a greater understanding of entropy and quantum foam. You just have to accept the horror of being so close to the stars but relegated to simply dream for now.

>>518817166 (OP)
https://youtu.be/Zkv8sW6y3sY?t=1092

>>518833866
yeah I was sixteen too, it was cool

>>518845821
This image is the most retarded junior high school aspiring fantasy author with poor world building bullshit I've ever seen.

Why do people talk about Universal One when you schizos already have Hockey?

James Webb telescope has observed some cases of things moving faster then light.

Einstein was tasked with keeping the earth moving in the face of the Michaelson Morley experiment which showed it was not. Both Tesla and Marconi are attributed to inventing radio waves. When Marconi went to shoot a radio wave across the ocean they said nooo you can't do that, the earth is a ball and it will just go out to space. But he said I don't care about your theory and did it anyway. So they had to task Heaviside with keeping it a ball, inventing the ionosphere. It was likely also realized, this is strange the radio waves should move faster against the spin having to travel less distance over ground. And Michaelson Morley showed there wasn't movement of the earth detected. So Einstein in Special Relativity had to argue radio and light waves always move at a constant speed away from you, no matter which speed you are going. This leads to all sorts of paradoxes like time different and time travel. They sometimes also use Lorenz theory of length contraction, that the measuring apparatus physically shrinks making our movement through the aether undetectable. So physical sizes and time can be different they argue but it's near impossible to detect for you would have to be in a different reference frame, but light speed is behaving according to your reference frame. It was so important to the Royal Society they deemed Einstein correct, though only a handful of people, or even nobody were said to understand it, so they offered a million dollar reward for anyone who could explain it

>>518848088
I didn't notice this before but look at all the jewish names on the chalkboard, for some reason at the top is written Ashkenazim

>>518842004
Uhh, why would that be? Afaik, it's only the acceleration that kills (G force). But let's say you're right.. What about a robot walking from the back the to the front then? Or any other object.

>>518848363
There is an escape other than spatial curvature/expansion. You just have to suppose that celestial objects were actually thrown out into 4D space at the Big Bang. And that what we perceive as our universe is a 3D projection of that expanding 4D shell structure. It totally explains Hubble's Law.

>>518848721
The MM Experiment wasn't a negative result. It was a null result. There's a big difference. Not that that homunculus Epstein shill would know it.

>>518848833
There is no 4d space though. This is jewish science. Space and time are different conceptual things. Space has 3 dimensions. There are dozens of different tests which show we aren't moving but at the center. And in the words of scientists it is a horror to even consider we could be the center, it is only 'modest' to consider that's not the case

>>518817166 (OP)
Maybe the devs did this out of compassion. They didn't want empires to be galactic or intergalactic.

>>518817166 (OP)
This is why you don't use Jews theory of relativity.

>>518849294
Oh come on, even the Greeks disproved the geocentric model

>>518817166 (OP)
Fuck your videogame analogy you fucking wop

>>518817166 (OP)
>speed limit
fuck the space police

Warp drive, even we have a concept of it with our primitive tech so aliens millions of years ahead of us probably have it. We just need to find the exotic matter and figure out how to harness near limitless amounts of energy no biggie

>>518849294
Hey, nigger. Christians only believe in 2d. The earth is flat according to them.

>>518848833
>>518849294
It would be hyperbolic/projective geometry which is distanceless. All the postulates, math, geometry leading up to purple robed beggar was based in Euclidian.

>Space has 3 dimensions
Space has no properties and acts upon nothing. Trees do not grow by being extruded along an imagined "z-axis", and pressure mediation does not give a fuck about distance.

>>518823136
dark matter is just ether but we live in a paradigm where a bunch of jew shills pushed that out for their broken theories that can't be resolved. Some of the greatest inventors in history subscribed to ether theory and even many pysics autists on the internet today do as well, especially the experiment fags.

>>518849406
We could be in a locally special region of space, our galaxy is in a void after all.
>>518849583
Do you know of a solid experiment?

>>518849524
Energy is mass times speed of light squared. This means that there's almost an infinite amount of energy everywhere.

>>518847883
the law is that nothing can move faster through space than light, space itself can and is moving and expanding faster than light so it might seem that something movies faster than light but it is actually the space expanding between thats causing that

>>518849380
are you joking? heliocentrism is credited to Copernicus and Kepler. People prob only heard of it in the last 150 years, tho claimed to go back 400 years

>>518849655
Yeah basically, but we are still relegated to burning earth juice for fuel so it will be a while until we have warp drives

>>518817409
you only imagined it after two trannies imagined it. i hate the retards in the world. or should i say, midwits

>>518849725
Yeah, right.

>>518817166 (OP)
This would assume that devs think like humans and would make it fun for them. Why would that be the case?

>>518818066
I think you should finish high school and spend some time reading philosophy since it seems to actually interest you somewhat.
Game mechanics and similarities to reality stem from them being really simplified models of reality, not the other way around.
Frameworks for thinking in general seem to follow the technological age and level of society. I wouldn't be naming others NPCs if I were you, not until you construct your own framework and work it all out.
It's why Plato had the cave analogy in 500BC even though he didn't watch TV or play games or even have a term such as a simulation(not in the techno-sense in which we use it today).

>>518849800
>>518849627
Nothing on both of these.
Listen anons, if you have to make these grandiose claims you need something to back them that isn't just calling "science" Jewish when studying nature's true reality is one of the whitest things on earth. Onions fueled scientism where you jerk off to your own models is retarded, yes - but so is saying the earth is flat.
Your models are shit so they're not even worth getting hard over.

>>518849800
A random philosopher wrote the idea so greeks all 'knew' this? Except these txts did not come out until the jewish Medici popes started funding all this recreation of babylonian, greek and roman revivals and lo and behold we found in 1500 a txt from 300BC that all Europe had not known about? This was the corruption the north broke away from, but they lured us in claiming to have all the keys to the past that they didn't have prior

>>518817166 (OP)
>no influential philosopher or scientist before the 1960s could imagine this
"I shall think that the sky, the air, the earth, colours, shapes, sounds and all external things are merely the delusions of dreams which he has devised to ensnare my judgement. I shall consider myself as not having hands or eyes, or flesh, or blood or senses, but as falsely believing that I have all these things." - rene descartes

nigga invented the matrix in the mid 17th century, bro

>with their tech
rene's cultural contextualization was demons, ghosts, haints, witches, bogeymen, cool shit
your cultural contextualization is fucking video games, so climb down off your high horse, bud

>>518817166 (OP)
Have you considered that maybe the universe is in fact just hell? That maybe there is no purpose and no way forward, that we are just pale apes drowning in jeets and nogs and space is simply untouchable beyond our solar system?

>>518817166 (OP)
Simulation theory is the dumbest, gayest theory ever put forth by man!

Think - Who created the "computer" we're living in? Does that man have a creator? What universe does he live in? Does he experience time...like we do? Where did the atoms come from that made the computer that we're "living" in ?

Simulation theory is horseshit...and only braindead faggots fall for it!

>>518850377
Objectively speaking, it's not any dumber or gayer than the jew god story or Odin or even Scientology or even Mormonism. It's literally the same thing, but cooler.

>>518850377
>Think - Who created the "computer" we're living in?
The Abarhamic God
>Does that man have a creator?
Yes, him
>What universe does he live in?
This Universe
>Where did the atoms come from that made the computer that we're "living" in ?
From the True Creator

>>518850494
>it's not any dumber or gayer than the jew god story or Odin or even Scientology or even Mormonism
I agree with you there....but not "cooler" though. Anything that trivializes our very existence is fucking gay, and the faggots who tout it should be horsewhipped for conning people.

>>518850630
>The Abarhamic God
You have failed life itself

>>518836651
Clocks in orbit are wrong by a few seconds yearly.

>>518850279
It was so obvious you could conclude it without measurements in 400BC, it's not corruption, it's insanely obvious if you consider any alternative for more than two seconds, they all suck have no proper mechanisms. The Greeks hated their geocentric models because they made calculating planetary trajectories a real bitch, go to a heliocentric model and boom, it all just makes sense. Weird oscillations just turn to elliptical motion that follows simple mathematical laws(math is White, isn't it?)
You have to be a proper moron if you think a geocentric model fits reality better.
>>518850630
The bible doesn't even get the age right. We know nothing about God, we can only inspect his work in awe and try to figure out the reason behind it all.

We are in a entertainment simulation
The higher civilization has trillions of entities, hundreds per person
There is at least one entity watching each human
They manipulate the time-slider like a youtube video to watch your highlights of your life

>>518817166 (OP)
Consciousness can travel faster than the speed of light. The limitation prevents primitive undeveloped souls from unfettered alien contact causing massive galactic wars, but highly advance conscious beings can interact with each other and collaborate across the universe, and using their advanced intelligence can develop ways to overcome the limitations of material reality.
Humans are still noob souls, and more than that have been intentionally filtered out by society from developing soul power, keeping them from breaking free of economic limitations on their capabilities and usage of time.

>>518817547
If you go to the right planets they will 3d print you an elemental body based on your soul imprint, or hop into a clone ship and possess a clone, or git gud at angelic powers and manifest directly into being wherever you wish.

>>518817166 (OP)
>What the fuck is the point of this if the speed of light is a hard cap?
Wow it's almost like different planets/species AREN'T SUPPOSED TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER
as if the distance, hard speed cap, technical hurdles, and space itself doing everything conceivably possible to kill and prevent organic life from existing in it

we are not supposed to interact with each other
we have been separated for a good reason

>>518850785
>Consciousness can travel faster than the speed of light
It's information so it has to obey causality.

>>518850864
How do you know that

>>518817166 (OP)
You can travel "faster" than light by bending space but we don't have the technology to force space to bend yet and the radiation it creates would kill everything nearby instantly. It's how the UFOs caught on video travel. They don't have a propulsion engine but move by bending space.

>>518850949
Because everything physical is information, if consciousness is physical it too is information. Do we have any indication it isn't physical. We can modulate it with simple physical compounds and even stop it temporarily.

>>518850951
all theoretical nonsense that relies on
>well we don't know how to do it YET
the problem is the amount of energy required
it's not physically possible
>but theoretically with ummm zero point energy or something...?
no
and every serious person knows that

>>518850949
because your reflexes are not faster than light but your hand on a stove and it takes time for your "consciousness" to get that you are a retard and give you pain this all takes time because its still all physical even on the atomic level you cant just remove or ignore that something doing anything takes time/movement

>>518817166 (OP)
It's possible, you just gotta be a tachyon. Become a tachyon, anon, it's worth it.

>>518822018
Just get on a ship that is going 1 mph under the speed of light and run to the front of the ship. Checkmate.

>>518817166 (OP)
Assume this is a simulation at least partially obeying similar logical laws to the simulation one layer up. That means
>simulation technology exists
>its capable of simulating an entire fucking universe
>technology continues to advance
>running an entire universe simulation to completion is possible, with any amount of changes we might want
>somebody is going to want to simulate the universe a little differently to see what kinds of universes work for whatever fucking purpose they have
>the universe drifts all over the fucking place all the way down. some universes would be ideal, others would be pointless and useless
we're one of billions of pointless fucking throw away simulations and you should have no fucking illusion in your head that the world would be designed to be nice in any fucking way at all whatsoever. For all we know our entire universe exists as an A/B marketing test for Adobe, trying out to test out the profit margins for fucking users over with "annual subscriptions paid for monthly" and undisclosed cancellation fees.

>>518851062
Every "serious" person thinks bottle rockets are the hottest shit. Really think we're getting there with bottle rockets?

>>518817166 (OP)
>>518817409
>grow up with goystation
>we first gen says life a gaymer

>>518851232
No, obviously not. We're not getting anywhere with anything unless on extremely long timescales and we're certainly not sending living people either.
Because the speed of light is the hard cap.

Best we can do is utilize what we have in our solar system, and even that is a long ways off and probably a pipe dream

>>518823381
Except we have machines that detect things other than light, retard. You think scientists use their fucking naked eyeballs to study space?

>>518851195
>For all we know our entire universe exists as an A/B marketing test for Adobe
You may be more right than you think

>>518817668
>You don't need to travel distances at all. You can teleport.
>>518824865
>we could harness the power of wormholes
/Thread

Before modern computers, top philosophers and scientists thought the maximum memory we would ever be able to store would be less than one encyclopedia volume's worth of information.

Hell, before too long ago, top computer scientists also thought we would never have AI capable of impersonating a human in a simple chat or scenario.

We will eventually be able to bend spacetime to our will, provided we don't become extinct. And in that case travel distance becomes pretty irrelevant.

Oh, also reminds me how before the plane, people thought traveling around the world in a day would be impossible. Now, it's trivial.

>>518823918
>Relative speed between 1 and 3 is the same as between 1 and 2
You are such a stupid faggot, holy shit. Literally no one has said anything works this way, you're just a dimwit.

>>518851530
Ok tell me how you build a wormhole

>>518819912
Yeah still playing Ocarina of time having a blast, fuck gaystation.

>>518824052
The bullet would cap out at the speed of light assuming it became energy, lower otherwise. Relative movement is irrelevant. If you're looking at a speeding car, you're not moving at half of its velocity by virtue of observing it.

>>518851759
I will if you can first tell me how to build AI like chatgpt. Remember to start with transistors.

(Don't actually do this. The point is people, or machines, in the future, will be much more knowledgeable than us just we are much more knowledgeable than those before us)

>>518850732
They claim the flower pattern we see was too hard to calculate. But this isn't true as astrologers all over the world did calculate the retrograde that was so hard for these 'scientists' apparently. And people then understood retrograde and calculated it for themselves to know when it was happening. But under heliocentrism most don't even know it happens. It's said they only knew geometry and thought things had to be perfect circles or spheres (or the had the math for this then). As we were on roman numerals, and not said to get polynomial and ellipse equations until much later. Only then did we have the math with Kepler to do an ellipse equation to say the heliocentric model works

>>518824480
You should KYS ASAP.
>moving faster makes time slow down for the mover
>WELL WHAT ABOUT THINGS NOT MOVING FASTER??????!!!?
Time doesn't slow down for them, retard nigger.

>>518851737
>>518826391

>>518825231
It has.

>>518824865
>>518825231
You're not time travelling, you do not go to the past, nor the future.
The faster you go, the less you age RELATIVELY to the normal speed point of origin.
We know thank to the colliders it happen, we don't KNOW the deepest why. It happens, we can reproduce it. We can't explain it enough to even think about nullifying it.

>>518852174
You literally are just not understanding what you are reading. Two objects moving away from each other both at light speed are still both just moving at light speed. One of them isn't magically still while the other moves at twice the speed of light. If you drive in the opposite direction as another car on the highway that doesn't mean you're going twice the speed limit.

>>518851193
Nice bait.
Of course we know speed of light nearness stretches time and space.

>/pol/ tries to talk about science
It's RICK AND MORTY: the thread
Lmao about what I expected.

>>518823918
In a vaccum, not in the real space with planet, rocks and stars attraction fields.

>>518851041
>if consciousness is physical
But what if it's not. Where exactly is the consciousness located in me?

>>518852577
I can't tell you, but I know how to turn it off using physical methods, so the part of it we can prove seems to be physical.

>>518852562
Get off your high horse captain ski lodge.

>>518852439
>>518852566
>>518852400
>>518817166 (OP)
Here is a little riddle for you and it probably deserves its own thread but oh well:
If you travel, instantly, 1 light year away, and then travel back, instantly, even though no time passes for you within this continuum of timespace warping, the equivalent amount of time needed by which to traverse such a distance would mean that by you return, even if you do this at 99.99% of the speed of light, hundreds or thousands of years would pass, meaning that anything you find could never be conveyed to a civilization who has context into what the findings mean to your relative civilizational experience.

:^)

>>518842489
those people came to that conclusion because they thought big people in the sky created thunder and made the sun rise every day
Not really the same thing. We know how everything works, down to the atom and waves, of everything imaginable in our presence. There's no "veil" or otherworldly being that we can detect

>>518852640
>0 posts so far that handle the problem of time passing when travelling at light speed or close to it
>no discussion of entropy (only 2 posts ITT mention it, both in passing)
"high horse"
Lol ok

>>518852637
>the part of it we can prove

>>518852725
>Not really the same thing. We know how everything works, down to the atom and waves, of everything imaginable in our presence.
>There's no "veil" or otherworldly being that we can detect
https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-capture-elusive-4d-ghost-in-cern-particle-accelerator
Lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_(physics)
lel

>>518852697
>did you know that if happened then would happen?! crazy huh dood

>>518852697
Magic or physic?
Mind, even on earth we use relative time, not an immanent time.

>>518852876
If you found that example hard to understand you're a midwit.

>>518852842
Yes, the only part you can say something about with high confidence. Anything else is most likely noise. Most of our creation theories before physical science were highly noisy and didn't really contain anything useful that could stand up under scrutiny from real world measurements.

>>518852855
you don't even know what you just posted means
It takes over 80iq to read past the headline, and 90iq to understand it. you failed both.

>>518852697
If you travel a light year away and back that's 2 years stfu

>>518852908
By saying you can move one light year instantaneously you're invoking undefined behavior of our models, any answer could be correct.

>>518852896
Once you get beyond material physics you get to information physics which again leads to breakdowns of information being transmitted over lengths of distance.
>>518852938
>If a given theory is self-consistent by the introduction of ghosts, these states are labeled "good". Good ghosts are virtual particles that are introduced for regularization, like Faddeev–Popov ghosts. Otherwise, "bad" ghosts admit undesired non-virtual states in a theory, like Pauli–Villars ghosts that introduce particles with negative kinetic energy.
"Actually, you're the midwit if you don't take this seriously!!!"
Lololololol

>>518850864
Its a matter of where are you in space? You see through your senses that you are somewhere, so that is the place you believe you exist. Now close your eyes, and then imagine where are you? You might imagine that you exist in the same space that you remember existing in when your eyes are open. But then, what about your memories? You can imagine that you exist in the space that you were in earlier, when you remember what your senses perceives when you were in an earlier space. That will actually trick your mind into thinking its in another space. You can travel through the day you just lived this way. So you can you be in the space you are in now, and also you can be in the space you remember living in earlier, all that information of the space you already existed within has become part of your cells and atoms.
But then extrapolate, if you cam make your consciousness perceive its past space existence, why not project it into a future space, where are you going to exist tomorrow? Once you have trained that capability, You just need to choose where you want to exist, and you can choose places that you have no physical movement through. You just imagine your mind reaches out and that the light and information of another space passes through the emptiness of awareness, and illuminates the conditions of another location, can be close, can be very far away. The mind will create this sense immediately.
You didn't go anywhere. All that changed was the arrangement of information within your cells and atoms, the photons that your electrons were vibrating in resonance with and interacting with.
You aren't moving the information faster than the speed of light, the information was already within the place your awareness occupied, you just looked at a place where your body didn't physically reside, rather than only looking at the place you do physically exist within. Its like falling through an event horizon from night to day, and your atoms glow from within.

>>518852966
Let's go back to OP's point for a second:
>there's no fucking way that the speed of light is the universal speed limit.
It is. Because even if you exceed the 'speed of light', you are limited by the 'rate of data transmission' which is essentially what the question is really asking.
"Is the 'speed of light' a limitation of the information, or merely a material limitation"?

It is a limit of information.

>>518852924
We don't have a good answer to questions like "why is consciousness possible at all" and "is consciousness fundamental or emergent".

>>518853028
>You aren't moving the information faster than the speed of light, the information was already within the place your awareness occupied, you just looked at a place where your body didn't physically reside, rather than only looking at the place you do physically exist within. Its like falling through an event horizon from night to day, and your atoms glow from within.
Retard take. The mind is more of a system of suspended electric states than it is of atomic particles.

>>518853081
>We don't have a good answer to questions like "why is consciousness possible at all" and "is consciousness fundamental or emergent".
Yes we do.... it's based on critical states generated by a series of electrical, magnetic, and radiation based fields which are generated locally by the body and non-locally in extra dimensions.

Man... is everyone just a midwit or a retard these days?

>>518843639
>taking a shit
>portal opens in bathroom
>random nog from Chicongo pops out
>"OOGA BOOGA! BIXNOOD, MUHFUGGA! MUH DICK! WHERE DA HOES AT?"
>steals toilet paper and ducks back through the portal

>>518853154
Silence, Leaf.

>>518853145
You explained how it happens, not why it is possible. You're the midwit.

>>518853028
>why not project it into a future space
You do, your brain is a model running at constant lag trying to predict the future. But that's based on your model, not a true measurement like a photon hitting your retina.
>>518853061
That's true, I guess the wording just sounded a bit odd but you're totally right.
>>518853081
Is math fundamental or emergent? Where is the distinction?

>>518853285
>You explained how it happens, not why it is possible. You're the midwit.
It's possible because radiation exists in our dimension you fuckwit, that's explicitly part of what I said.
Man I really, and I do mean -really- hate when some stupid faggot like yourself thinks they have made a point by not understanding what was said.
Shut the fuck up, moron. Asshole moron.