Thread 518819180

You might as well believe in the holocaust then.

Modern construction is shit

most of those were built after the 10th century. while most people call the entire Middle Ages the "dark ages" it was only particularly bad in the centuries immediately following the collapse of the western roman empire. the handful of centuries leading up to the Renaissance were significantly less shit, although there was a lot of warring going on. the Holy Roman Empire and its contemporaries ironed out a lot of the disorder and feudalistic bullshit for a while, until Winceslas decided to be a degenerate

AYO SHEEEEIT WYPIPO DID NOT BUILD DAT SHEIT DEY DIDN'T EVEN NO HOW TO WIPE DEY ASS. DA BLACKAMOORS BUILD DEM.

>>518819180 (OP)
I deny all history. Trex skeletons are dragon skeletons by the way

>>518819180 (OP)
they were built in centuries by societies of masons who kept their construction knowledge secret. sometimes the people knowing the secrets died without transmitting them and construction stopped for decades or forever.

ANYTHANG GUD THAT CAME OUTTA YURUP LIKE ALL DA MUZIK AND DA ARTS AND DA COMPOZAS AND DA ARCHITECTURE AND DA INVENTIONS AN SHIET WUZ DA BLACK KANGZ!

ALL DA BAD THANGZ LIKE DA WITCH HUNTZ WUZ DA YTIES

THANG I LIKE? I MUSTA INVENTED DAT SHEIT! THAT COUNTS ALL OF ASIA! I LIKE SAMURAI AND ANIME AND SHEIT, DAT CUZ JAPAN IS BLACKED!

>>518819180 (OP)
OK zoomer

>>518819180 (OP)
I don't see what's so incredible about it. It's the same principle with everything nowadays. Churning out quantity over quality, in order to make more sales. Everyone's cutting costs and increasing margins. The country is looking for a firm to do a project? They always pick the cheapest option. Same deal with food, services, and other goods. Everything's of shittier quality than it used to be. I still have some appliances at home from 30 years ago that I use repeatedly every single fucking day. 0 repairs. They just work. They were built to last even only 3 decades ago. But now? Everything's cheap shit. Back then they built buildings to last as well. And they made them pretty and awe inspiring as a testament of whatever the fuck they believed in. Nobody believes in anything anymore, that's why there's so much soulless slop. It's not even infested the internet with AI slop. There's no escape from the slop.

>>518819556
stop with that liberal nonsense. feudalism was based and people were happy. you married a nice 16yo virgin from your village who stayed with you for life and gave you 10 children. 6 months a year you did not work and there were festivities all the time. no degeneracy no diversity no divorce no abortions no nothing. just a stable honest religious society lulling you from the cradle to the grave

>>518819180 (OP)
It's interesting how retards can't conceive of what intelligent, driven people can do. Kind of like a cat, staring at a jet taking off.

>>518820990
We believe in the stock market and specifically in tech stocks.

It was aliens.

itt Fat retail workers who have never built anything in their can't conceive of people who can build

ITS WUZ DA ALIENZ AND SHEEEIT

>>518819180 (OP)
Now show what the average house looked back then.

>>518819180 (OP)
>pulleys
>scaffolds
>master craftsmen

This boggles the retard.

>>518819556
They also took a long ass time to build. The construction of Notre Dame started in 1163 and was completed in 1345, 182 years later.

>>518821276
How is this brick shithouse comparable?

>>518819180 (OP)
those old buildings were made over multiple generations and wouldnt make "The Holy Gee Dee Pee" line go up like making cheap cardboard apartments to house illegals that could take out credit cards and buy useless shit and make The Holy Gee Dee Pee line go up.

>>518819556
>it was only particularly bad in the centuries immediately following the collapse of the western Roman Empire
Americans as always have idea what they‘re talking about. The Dark Ages were no worse than antiquity. The Roman Empire never collapsed. The rest of the post is horrible too.

>>518821678
>The current Illinois State Capitol building was constructed between 1868 and 1888 in Springfield
oh?

>>518821300
What is interesting is people like you whose ego is too large to consider the possibility, despite yourself clearly not being a builder or having any clue if the techniques and results are possible today.. they are not.

>>518822312
so true sister we can't even go to moon anymore by this time tomorrow we're all gonna be chucking pointy sticks and speaking in nignog jabbering and clicks

>>518819180 (OP)
The easier something becomes the less effort is expended toward it such that level of ease has a direct inverse relationship with quality.

>powertools and semi trucks
>architecture takes a shit

>game design is mostly point and click now
>new games are ass

>easier to be a woman than ever before
>all women become whores

ease destroys. seek difficulty.

>>518819180 (OP)
There is so much wrong with this graphic I don't even know where to start.

>>518822791
>chatgpt, recreate this image as if the buildings were made out of horses and sticks.
I can see some slop brained zoomer unironically interpreting the op image text in that way

>>518822692
>horse and cart
>convict population
>smashed her out in 5 years
>better construction than anything we build now
>The Queen Victoria Building (QVB) was built between 1893 and 1898
My local council cannot build a pool without it taking 8 years and blowing out their budget by 30 million.Slop apartment buildings take longer. A chink fabricated metro station we struggle with..

>>518822111
What's your point? It's neither as impressive nor was it built before the industrial revolution.

>>518819180 (OP)
The whole point of liberalism is to brainwash people into thinking the past was le bad and the future will be le good. People of the past were more civilized, advanced, and happy than modern (((experts))) teach you.

>>518821133
nigga thinks that period was great lmao. Like nigga, if you want to actually live a life, 1980s America in your 20s is the best time. Not living in a farm in some fuck ass 1400s European country, like Poland, where you could be killed by anything, ie, disease, foreign armies, civil war, etc.

>>518823297
God it must be tough for a greek tk come to terms with all this you guys are very gassed in your gay history

>>518819180 (OP)
>dark ages
>1500s
You’re just a full Millenia off

>>518823748
>brings up 19th century building that only proves my point
>you are the retarded one
lmao

>>518823339
> People of the past were more civilized, advanced, and happy than modern (((experts))) teach you.

Depends on how far the "past. If you think this time, based on the OP's post, around the 10th century, then boy, you're fucked unless you are royalty or at least above a merchant. Retards call Fueledism based, but it is only based when they are the ones on top. Also, we were not more civilized, we are probably around the same actually, the modern world just put more filters on people.

>>518823806
>Dark ages
Wrong term coined by a clueless American "historian".
The right name is 'middle ages'.

>>518823939
>Also, we were not more civilized, we are probably around the same actually, the modern world just put more filters on people.
I would argue that the modern world is "overcivilized".

>>518819180 (OP)
The construction of these buidlings took decades to centuries. They were extremely expensive and were funded by the state, the church and rich patrons, because they wanted the prestige and believed it will help them to go to heaven.

Yes, the architects had to have a lot of knowledge, but the main reason why they are impressive is the amount of time and labor that went into it.

>>518821767
i just like square towers nigger

>>518819180 (OP)
middle left is in a city that has a MUCH more iconic cathedral

>>518819180 (OP)
They used pulleys and wooden cranes, ninny

>>518823806
Also cathedrals look so good because literally all the wealth was spent to build them

Everyone lived in squalor while the only way to afford food was to work for the Catholic Church to build these pyramids in projects that lasted several generations

The church paid no taxes and had land and received taxes and received donations and sold heaven and pardons of sins for gold

All making it wealthier than most European countries combined
And since they don’t need to pay for an army or run any expenses, they just started wasting money on nonsense like giant expensive buildings just to find a way to spend their infinite gold

This situation pissed off europeans so much you had like 7 different reformation movements including the Protestant then the French Revolution which was as anti Catholic as Martin Luther, and this was after the French hugenot Protestants had all been massacred
The Catholic Church was hated like you wouldn’t believe

You still see some rémanents of this with hatred towards Jesuits
Jesuits are the inquisition of the Vatican, a direct copy of the Spanish Inquisition but under direct orders from the pope. They were tasked with torturing tens of millions of European for heresy or generally questioning the church’s power and corruption
They also run brainwashing centers and schools

The sins of the church caught up and ultimately both Protestants and the French Republic defeated them

And in the end fucking SAVOY game overed them.
The pope called for all Christians in the world to defend the Vatican from Italy. The Christian larpers came and did their larp. Massive army. I forgot, 40k or 400k. Either way it was huge for the time. Anyways Italy invaded anyways and the Christian larpers pretending to be soldiers and acting tough with guns and marching in lockstep all surrendered without a fight KEK
They don’t even believe in their religion or after life, at least Muslims actually believe they go to heaven if they die as martyrs

>>518820777
speak your truth king

>>518819180 (OP)
Most of that work was done by Norman engineers, who were usually well over 6 foot and had the brains to match. Of course they had brown eyes and black hair so the divide and conquer jews on /pol/ would say they weren't white.
>>518820990
It really is this. You absolutely could build something like OP's pic today, but it would cost such an unreasonable sum of money you'd go broke trying. Like those beautiful old cars from a few generations ago. We haven't forgotten how to build them, we just can't fucking afford to because all of our wealth has been stolen through usury and globalism. A car like pic related would likely cost several times more than a Lamborghini to build today.

>>518823164
>My local council cannot build a pool without it taking 8 years and blowing out their budget by 30 million.
>Slop apartment buildings take longer.
That's due to red tape and corruption, not inability.

>>518824045
You’re a deranged paco

Dark ages were between 5th and 9th century
Middle Ages is the period after the dark ages

95% of the European population died during the dark ages, all governement sand organized society collapsed, the economy collapsed, global trade collapsed, Europe became a rust server with raiders and roaming war bands, and everyone was either busy trying to stay alive or starving to death
Most died

It was such a shitty time that there isn’t even a single picture of charlemagne

Look all you want
Charlemafne, ruler of half of Europe, couldn’t afford a single painting or statue of himself
That’s how broke everyone was

>>518821999
Yeah for some reason the Byzantine empire is ignored in this conversation for many people. Some say it didn't even happen and time is missing (they think the dark ages are insulting Christianity), despite a complete timeline from Constantine to the end of the middle ages being complete and recorded both in writing and archaeology.

High IQ people aren't drawn to masonry anymore

>>518822312
>they are not.
There are comparable structures still being built

>>518822312
I was arguing with some retard that though the Paris catacombs were carved with magic and they used electric light, despite the fact that mines in fucking North America were carved out without explosives or electricity within the last 200 years. Our education system has failed wildly in explaining the past.

>>518824455
Look at all those fine details and craftsmanship. Imagine the skill requirement and effort put into it. Nope, can't do that. Gotta churn out soulless Cybertrucks. Disgusting.

>>518824348
/thread
>>518824045
The dark ages weren't a myth.

>>518824476
We lack the artistic ability to begin with but no, otherwise they would.
>>518824616
>falling apart after 20 years
Yeah so amazing mate, really compatible.
>>518824622
Catacoms are 300km. USAs longest mine is 35km. I don't think it was magic but I don't think one 10x smaller is comparable.

jewish thread

>>518819180 (OP)
>dark ages
This term is widely misused. Neither does it apply to the whole middle ages, nor does it for the whole of Europe. It's used to describe the early middle ages in England. And it doesn't mean that this time was particularly grim or harsh but it means that there are fewer historical accounts from then compared to the preceding and succeeding centuries.

>>518824761
>production of lead
This : >>518824511 I would say is the biggest red pill
>Charlemafne, ruler of half of Europe, couldn’t afford a single painting or statue of himself

There isn’t even a single image of the most powerful man in Europe at that time
And he lived late, the worst of the dark ages were before charlemagne

We don’t know what he looked like
There’s that one painting of "him" but it’s a completely random painting based off nothing from the 18th or 19th century
That painting is always posted, he has long hair and the crown, but it’s made up a thousand years after he died

We don’t even know if Charlemagne was blond or had dark hair
There isn’t a single depiction of him from his time

were they jewish?

>>518822111
>he thinks it’s only 200yo and believes mainstream history
Lmfao. Let’s be completely honest here. The old world was entirely more advanced than today’s society and everyone knows it, but is too afraid of being ridiculed as a nut by average normies. WW1 was waged to destroy the old world, WW2 was for redistricting and foundational building of the new world, WW3 will be to begin the new world order in total Masonic fashion. Embrace the chaos, deny the jew dominion over your consciousness

>>518824994
>Yeah so amazing mate, really compatible.
Here's a real one under construction.
Also, consider the architecture of the US during the Gilded Age of the US

>>518819180 (OP)
It's a sad state of affairs when people in the deep future look at technology we have today and conclude it must've been done with magic or supernatural forces. It's basically a sign that although we got a lot better in SOME things, in some respect we've rescinded into a real dark age of technology, where the older stuff we have is seen like magic, and we don't quite understand how it was built.

>>518824742
Once upon a time a car was a work of art that you'd cherish for a lifetime and your children would fight over inheriting.
I can't imagine someone seeing a Toyota Prius in a scrap yard in 30 years and saying "wow!" and dragging it home to painstakingly restore.

>>518825289
Looking it up I found a coin which may or may not be authentic

https://www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/personnage/Charlemagne/112805

So it means the real charlemagne was a chubby clean shaven fat guy with a double chin, hooked nose and dark hair kek

Coins were the one thing you would expect rulers to still do even during the collapse
They are easy to make, just find noble metals, even old coins, heat them up and re press them in a new stamp. That stamp looks like complete shit
(Pic related is a coin of lysamachus from 300 BC https://www.gazette-drouot.com/en/article/alexander-the-hero-in-a-coin-collection/31895)

But rulers need coins both to prove they’re the king and to control currency printing

>>518825346
Yeah it fucking sucks lol look at this

>>518825385
We're in the second dark age man. All creativity has ground to a halt, everyone is too busy fighting over the scraps of civilization to look up.
When one of the little brown crossbreed peasants finally does look up, and sees the great works of prior generations they assume it's fucking magic.

>>518825537
A lot of things used to be this way. Form wasn't sacrificed for the sake of function.

>>518825289
>>production of lead
I wouldn't gloss it over because it basically proves that new aqueducts, which were taken for granted during Roman times, weren't being built.
>>Charlemafne, ruler of half of Europe, couldn’t afford a single painting or statue of himself
But yeah, I agree. I'd also add to that the depictions of the Eastern Roman Emperors are very poor compared to those of Western Rome and classical Greece, despite the dark ages presumably not being a thing in the ERE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Byzantine_emperors
Some of the portraits look like they were drawn by a 10 year old. lol

>>518825385
>Egypt pyramids staring at you
It is sader state when people believe authority on everything. Why would they lie about our history, the smart man asked.

>>518825346
I don’t understand why Hispanics always create this style that looks like random broken pieces of bathroom tiles in low quality mortar

This style is very ugly and can be found everywhere in Spain Portugal and Latin America

The sagrada familia looks like a temple to chutuluh, it’s very disturbing up close, it looks like it is made out sand a snake puked out mixed with mucus
With the classic bits of colorful pottery and bathroom tiles randomly smashed together everywhere in the building sludge

>>518825864
>Σαγράδα_Φαμίλια_2941 (cropped).jpg
Are you the self hating wog?

>>518825976
>I wouldn't gloss it over because it basically proves that new aqueducts, which were taken for granted during Roman times, weren't being built.
I thought they pretty much all broke and went into desrepair

In France we only have one aqueduct left and there were like 60 in Gaul during Roman times, I’m assuming they broke a long time ago not recently

>>518825976
>Some of the portraits look like they were drawn by a 10 year old. lol
Especially fucked when you compare them to the fayyum portraits which is what literal brownoids had access to in terms of quality standard during the times of rome
Nearly photorealistic paintings

Christians destroyed most art pieces in the western empire and later Europe, statues that survived were usually buried and hidden, like the statue of laocoon and his sons

Btw why was lead mined for aqueduct? Pipes? I thought they used stone channels without any liner
A lead pipe is about the worst possible idea but they didn’t know that back then

>>518825976
>Julian the apostate is literally the yes meme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Juliancng8851obverse.jpg

>>518819180 (OP)
The dark ages were 476 to 900 AD.

These were not built then. These where built during the high middle ages/rennessaince

>>518825864
It's lacking the old world style.
Point being, massive ornate stone structures are still being built.
No one will spend the money on the fine details though.
Had a recently finished castle in mind, but can't remember the name or location.

https://www.youtube.com/@staticintheattic1984
Here's an incredibly redpilled youtube channel for anyone interested in topics like this and also the history of kikes and just how destructive they've truly been throughout history. Couldn't recommend this dude enough desu.

>>518825537
That said, a toyota is much cheaper and quicker to make than that thing. I daresay the toyota factory is the real work of efficient art here.

>>518826074
nah just googled/saved it

>>518826347
You can argue the dark ages began before the official fall of west rome though

>>518825990
>Why would they lie about our history, the smart man asked.
What's the answer to that question though?
t. Dumbass

I do. This isn't stormfront

>>518821767
if you cant recognize the sovl in this, you are not human

>>518826252
>I thought they pretty much all broke and went into desrepair
Yes, but it was most likely a gradual process. Could be wrong though.
>Btw why was lead mined for aqueduct? Pipes? I thought they used stone channels without any liner
They used large underground siphons in areas of shitty terrain. In fact it would often be cheaper to construct them underground, but they chose not to as a way to impress the plebs. Fascinating really.
>A lead pipe is about the worst possible idea but they didn’t know that back then
They knew about it (slaves that mined lead died early), but it wasn't that bad of a material as the pipes were quickly covered by calque and other minerals.

>>518826715
Small castles were basically just police precincts

VGH, the fortified places they use to ride out from to collect taxes.... the sweet crenellations they use to shoot the angry people they steal money from... we need to return....

they had a lot of free time, no internet

>>518826789
>In fact it would often be cheaper to construct them underground, but they chose not to as a way to impress the plebs.
https://youtu.be/7PSfBEhYNN8?t=1926
32:06

>>518826490
The whole world is "cheaper" and "faster" but everything is more expensive than it's ever been. The sheer detail they put into old houses (that somehow everyone could afford) is staggering by today's standards. We have nail guns now, we produce sheets of wood and plasterboard that can be installed in minutes instead of hours, they've deleted all of the inefficient detailing - but nobody can afford a home anymore!?
Houses should be the cheapest they've ever been.
And funnily enough, the Toyota Prius is probably several times more complicated than an old V8/V12 Packard. I lost my beautiful burl wood and chrome accents but I got apple car play and hybrid drive.

>tartaria thread
peak retardation in all honesty

>>518825992
I've seen a similar style in Florida.
It looks quaint on smaller buildings and cathedrals, but terrible on a massive structure.

>>518826789
>but it wasn't that bad of a material as the pipes were quickly covered by calque and other minerals.
Interesting

In France pipes is called plomberie which is the word for lead, plomb
Plumber comes from the French plombier as well, literally meaning "the lead guy"


We didn’t have pipes until very recently, I think pre industrial revolution or shortly after. Probably after actually since industrial mechanical automation began during the French Revolution and I don’t think running water existed anywhere back then

Though most renaissance era cities had public fountains, they weren’t here to look pretty, those fountains were where the entire city got their drinking water from, and those must have had piping

Earlier on cities used wells usually outside of town of literal muddy rivers
Yes people got parasites and died

I don’t know if these early fountains had lead pipes or just carved stone channels.
Either way the fact the word plumber exists means that we used lead recently, within 300 years ago, for most of not all plumbing. Idk if we knew how bad lead poisoning was then.

In French money is also called argent which is silver
And salary which is salt

>>518826664
I don't have a definitive one. But I find it suspicious I can go to almost any town in the middle of nowhere Australia and find an old building constructed in two years for a population of a few thousand.

>>518827213
Plumbing is older than that snailboy.
The word comes from Latin plumbum meaning lead.
The Romans and many more where using lead pipes along ago.

>>518826664
I would guess a worldwide civilisation existed that lost some type of war and their history was wiped out by the victors who coopted their lands.

>>518827213
>In French money is also called argent which is silver
>And salary which is salt
All the words you speak of are just bastardization of Latin.

>>518819180 (OP)
They were financed by kings, churches, wealthy indiviiduals, and even done out of love for the work.
Individualism makes this impossible.

>>518824511
You are full of shit you stupid frog. The only reason we think the dark ages are the dark ages is because a bunch of illiterate French peasants decided to try proto-communism during the French Revolution and destroyed most records and buildings of note regarding the so called dark ages and the early Middle Ages. The destruction of the great Abbey complex of Cluny (down to the removal of the stones themselves) should be considered as tragic as the destruction of the great library of Alexandria.

Every other generation, uppity frenchies should be marched out and summarily executed for their “i know best, now destroy everything else” arrogance before it spreads like an infection and humanity has to suffer the consequences for their hubris for the ensuing centuries.

Argue with my history degrees specializing in this time period, you nigger, i fucking dare you.

>>518827407
Or perhaps a cataclysm that happened closer than we think, say 2-300 years ago, and the survivors rebuilt with what was left.

>>518827064
>>tartaria thread
That isn't at all what the thread is about.
The youtube channel I linked here >>518826442 might be interesting to you. He actually does a very good job of disproving things like the Tartarian "mud flood" ideas, but also proves we've had several minor resets even in the last thousand years. A town disappears off the map and people don't understand why, we end up with superstition. There certainly were towns buried under mud, others were burned, some fell into the sea. Repeat for all of human history.

>>518819180 (OP)
tartaria... post-millennium reign bros...

>>518827299
>it's the society of oddfellows bro
>we inherited these buildings by like ancient peoples or something that like made solomons temple or something
>have you seen the maps the people are ruslim chink mongolian sandniggers that built all this shit
>so heckin based
>the controllers like hid this from us or something and like these buildings have windows that are above ground or something

>>518827668
ooo shit you watch static ok nvm disregard my shitposts

>>518827104
>It looks quaint on smaller buildings
Bro
https://www.uniquetoursfactory.com/index.htm

>>518827395
>The word comes from Latin plumbum meaning lead.
But the world wouldn’t stay in use after a thousand years without plumbers

It obviously came back during the Renaissance, the period where European chuds were obsessing over ancient pre Christian European texts and lost books/art and trying to copy everything and return to tradition, making everything Latin/Greek and rejecting gothic/german/Christian influences

For example Celsius, famous scientist
He’s actually Swedish
Real name Berg, meaning hills. Bro was so disgusted with his own Nordic culture he changed his family name to the Latin word for hills and became Celsius.

It peaked during the French Revolution where everyone openely larped as an ancient Roman citizen wearing togas, building only Roman styled architecture and furniture, and even restoring the Roman republic as a real sovereign nation after they conquered the papal states

Big obsession with the past and everything Roman. This happened before the renewal of plumbing as a practice in Europe so most likely the word fell out of use then was re adopted after being re discovered by renaissance scholars.

But they wouldn’t have used that word if the contemporary ones didn’t still use lead. Idk why they use lead. I feel like bronze would be better, maybe it was still too expensive by then?

>>518827668
lukewarm faggot. no half measures. tartaria is real. you might as well be one of those deboonker muh skeptic fags from leddit. let me guess. you believe in ball earth and are a and dinotard too. lolol

>>518827555
>a bunch of illiterate French peasants decided to try proto-communism during the French Revolution and destroyed most records and buildings of note regarding the so called dark ages and the early Middle Ages
Yeah I'm sure a bunch of French peasants went on a tour across Europe to destroy history.

>>518827555
I’ll argue them. The dark ages were more than likely the Millennial Reign of Christ from Revelation 20. History by far and large is fake and massively gay. The ruling satanic ‘elite’ families have taken over our history books to insane degrees. The big lie that’s been covered up is the fact that Christ ruled on this earth for 1,000 years and hence why these things were built by the saints who had received their glorified bodies.

>>518819180 (OP)
Holocaust is fake, the structures were built by White men.

>>518827698
>Quick boys world fair in a few years lets whip up a palace
>The National Palace of Barcelona (Palau Nacional) was built between 1926 and 1929 for the 1929 International Exposition

>>518827875
Lead has always been in use.
It's easy, soft, malleable and abundant.
The places you see that was created before "the dark ages" where still being maintained.
It's not like everything just disappears in an instant.

>>518824511
Feodalism and power of the church peaked during the high middle ages when those churches were built. And yet they are officially considered the reasons for the dark ages.

>>518827514
And that’s a good thing!

>>518827555
>The only reason we think the dark ages are the dark ages is because a bunch of illiterate French peasants decided to try proto-communism during the French Revolution and destroyed most records and buildings of note regarding the so called dark ages and the early Middle Ages.
Completely fake, we still have the most medical including religious buildings of any European nations
Also the French Revolution was about restoring rome, abolishing the two speed legal system and removing the power of the Catholic Church, it didn’t even remotely resemble communism

Maybe you’re confusing the revolution with the commune of Paris 100 years later, which wasn’t communist either but inspired Karl Marx, because it was a city where everyone volunteered to fight and serve the common good, self organized and managed to keep everything running even after the traitorous government sided with the enemy
It wasn’t communist at all but it was so impressive that it became what Karl Marx saw as the greatest state of enlightenment humanity could achieve and what his ideology was aiming for as a metric for success

>The destruction of the great Abbey complex of Cluny (down to the removal of the stones themselves) should be considered as tragic as the destruction of the great library of Alexandria.

You really have chutzpah.

>>518827299
A YMCA (gymnasium with pool) in my area was demolished around 15 years ago.
A stone structure with arched windows and skylights over the pool and ornate brass and tile work in the interior was replaced by a concrete, sheet metal, and glass slopbox. I'm sure the interior is drywall.
Disgusting
Now, all the steel and stone bridges are coming down to make way for concrete.
They handle the amount of modern traffic much better but look horribly bland and are outrageously expensive and time-consuming to build for what they are.

>>518827906
tartaria is literally r_ddit you faggot
world fair bullshit it's fucking garbage
retards like you think picrel was made thousands of years ago meanwhile in reality my scouser grandfather some other ragtag liverpudlians helped construct it in the 60's
tartaria is plebbit conspiracy

>>518828123
>The places you see that was created before "the dark ages" where still being maintained.
>It's not like everything just disappears in an instant.
Christian mobs individually destroyed every library, every temple, and every bath in the Roman Empire

The only structures that survived were those used as churches, like the ironically named PANtheon of rome, which is intact after all this time, like all these other buildings would be if they hadn’t been manually destroyed

Just like the statues who lost their noses, done by pickaxes

Look up the baths of Diocletian
> In the 1560s, Pope Pius IV ordered the building of a basilica in some of the remains, to commemorate Christian martyrs who according to legend died during the baths' construction,
oy gevalt!

>>518828221
It's not you filthy frog.
All french should get executed on site.
At least you already destroyed your nation both with your communism (french revolution) and all the niggers you imported.

FRANCIA DELENDA EST

>>518827906
The terrifying reality is we have cyclical cometary impacts that wipe entire cities or even civilizations out every 200 years or so. The evidence for Tartaria is real, the conclusion is incorrect. Three body problem was chinky soft disclosure.

>>518827875
>I feel like bronze would be better, maybe it was still too expensive by then?
Most likely a combination of cost plus needing copper and iron for other uses (military equipment, fancy utensils etc).

>>518828021
>bro see these dome mosque thingamajigs
>they like create energy from the aether or something and like it uses tesla coils or something
Grow up midwit

do boomers really think this was made by a dude with a brush smearing shit on cloth?
fucking lol

>>518828825
>piss filter
It was clearly AI generated.

>>518820777
checked. based niggerchad educating us yt bois.

>>518828312
>helped construct it in the 60's
>picrel 10 yrs earlier
tbf this is probably the best case I've seen against a lot of this. Seems they did build it from scratch.
https://chesterwalls.info/gallery/cathbuild2.html

>>518828548
>All french should get executed on site.
On sight*

>>518828661
>Most likely a combination of cost plus needing copper and iron for other uses (military equipment, fancy utensils etc).
I know but it only makes sense if lead is collected a byproduct of the production to something else and would build up as a side effect over time making it very cheap

Bronze was reserved for cannons during the revolution period
So still expensive

But lead is toxic, if they knew, they should have still used Brozr or just nothing
Maybe pottery, some pipes can be made out of terracotta

Tin also exists, we have a lot of tin roofs, though tin is taken by bronze and if they had very little bronze they probably didn’t have much tin either

>>518828943
No, on this site.
Every single frogposter has to fucking die.

>>518828672
See these structures allegedly build in under a day?

>>518821444
How many people nowadays have "houses"?

>>518828943
>But lead is toxic, if they knew, they should have still used Brozr or just nothing
>Maybe pottery, some pipes can be made out of terracotta
They knew lead was bad for them, but it was too good, same with us and plastics.
It's malleable, and cheap.

Bronze is too hard to work practically with. It would be extremely time inefficient and cost alot more.

Ceramic wouldn't work, too tedious, too fragile.
The aquaducts were made of concrete, but all piping was lead.

>>518825992
>hispanics always create this style
it's a modernist building aka french influenced there really aren't many other buildings like that one. You might be thinking of the arabic influenced plateresque? It's a different style, and was just one among different aesthetic schools back in the day.

>>518828943
>But lead is toxic, if they knew, they should have still used Brozr or just nothing
Other than calque mitigating the effects, one of the reasons they didn't really care that much was because they probably died of other causes before lead poisoning became an issue. Life expectancy at 20 was 48. A lot of things we consider deleterious to our health nowadays only make a difference once life expectancy shoots above 60.

>>518819556
>>518821999
>>518824525
"The Dark Ages" is simply referencing a "loss of records." That is, after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, people in Europe stopped keeping records of a lot of things, so modern historians don't know the finer details of what was going on during this period.

>>518819180 (OP)
This, and all arguments like it, are an admission of having a sub 85 IQ.

>>518820409
based

>>518819556
lol no, romanesque architecture was the predominant architecture style during the early middle ages, and it was still pretty beautiful, not to mention that byzantine style was also around at that time

Dark ages for the jews

>>518828672
you don't even know what a tesla coil is, you dumb fucking cock sucker

>>518828641
pole shifts are cumming. and the next solar coronal mass ejection. buy silver bullion and canned foods. godspeed.

>>518829381
>Life expectancy at 20 was 48.
Stop with these falls numbers.
You can not count child mortality when comparing life expectancy with then and now.
It fuckar up the data.

>>518830106
Read the graph again.

>>518830191
*table

>>518824511
>95% of the European population died during the dark ages, all governement sand organized society collapsed, the economy collapsed, global trade collapse
Bullshit on all points.

>>518828312
no it's not. I learned about it from Eddie bravo akshully and have been here since 2006. Reddit is a website for trannies and is like, the gayest most retarded looking website ever made. you are probably from there. tartaria is big on like normies social media like instagram. but it is literally too deep and too intellectual for you. you don't understand it. you are so afraid to even ask the question. what's wrong with asking questions or considering these things? it makes your whole reality fall apart. it's not normal, your reaction, crying like a bunch of emotional wahmen, like a bunch of faggot little babies because it makes you afraid to consider. just keep believing what leddit or the tv joe rogan physicist trannies on telly tell you then, dick head, you are literally too stupid to understand. inb4 muh basedence (i studied the physics at the undergraduate level, you stupid tranny retard). leddit is down the hall and to the left

>>518829851
The reason we've got so many jews talking about alien motherships and shit is we're entering the debris field again. Once people realise the danger we're in it'll be too late. Then again, there's a better than zero chance we'll pass through it completely unscathed, but that's the problem isn't it. We don't know, and the people who might know won't fucking tell us anyway.
At the very least I expect famine, which would probably do the world some good.

>>518824761
There was no need to smelt more silver for centuries since the Romans had literally ruined their own economy with overspending (paying mercenaries and raising soldiers wages with their hundreds of coups)

The de urbanization is not a loss of technology but a loss of state capacity as smaller states did not control the entire Mediterranean which was what was essential to subsidize the urban population (which was to a large degree slaves)

>>518819556
Dark age never happened. Western Roman Empire was just farmers before the collapse and stayed farmers after. The eastern empire went on for another 1000 years never experiencing any “dark age”

>>518827906
Asserting retarded statements is not an argument.

>>518830359
Retarded crash out

>>518830106
>23 year old child
Big brained Christian revisionist pushing the next wave of feminism forward

>>518830551
>There was no need to smelt more silver for centuries
Ok, what about other metals?
What about having to use wells instead of aqueducts or having to use cesspits instead of sewers? The standard of living enjoyed by the average Roman citizen was miles better than that of the average medieval peasant and the standard of living of the average patrician rivaled that of medieval kings. Henry VIII was shitting in a fucking box.

>make post stating how any why the "Dark Ages" weren't a bad as people think
>get a half dozen replies that it was sunshine and rainbows, and nobody died from diarrhea or bled out in a ditch after getting levied for Pointless War #1,093

>>518830883
>What about having to use wells instead of aqueducts or having to use cesspits instead of sewers
Why is this a problem?

>>518826865
>>518826715
smoll castles are best

>>518831829
>t. does not have 30 sons
>lmao sonlet

>>518821999
>>518824525
You stupid cunts he specifically said WESTERN Roman Empire, not the entire fucking thing.
And the Dark Ages was only bad because of the Scandinavians going raiding, which was quickly stopped when the British remembered the importance of constructing town walls, and training proper militias and was entirely ended when some of the Scandinavians who discovered the fun of nation building and called themselves Normans decided to use their new civilization to flog the absolute fuck out of their barbarian bretheren and chased them out of southern Europe.

>>518826490
What's the point if it's cheaper to make and quicker to make if it's sold for the same amount and lasts a fraction of the time?

We can build a house twice the size of a Medieval home in a quarter of the time, but it will cost ten times as much and last barely thirty years before the foundation has cracked and the walls are splitting while the medieval home is a thousand years old and only really needs some new thatching.