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Anonymous (ID: hwK4EfF3) United States No.518847085 >>518847951 >>518850149 >>518851378 >>518853017 >>518855802 >>518856601 >>518858855 >>518862706 >>518864068 >>518864240 >>518864423 >>518865399 >>518865813 >>518866873 >>518866916 >>518867238 >>518867352 >>518867877 >>518871525
Nick Is Wrong
Nick Fuentes thinks it's plausible for white nationalists to "infiltrate the system" because he exists outside of it. Yes, young right wing men should go to the best colleges they can get into, but beyond that it's hopeless. These places are designed to be as antifragile as possible, to repel all attacks against the antiwhite system. America was built on the frontier spirit. White people will not succeed in the same way the Jews did, because we are not the Jews. We have 30 times the people they ever did. We need to create our own businesses, our own media companies, our own think tanks, our own PACs, and eventually our own universities. Nick's own success is a testament to the failure of infiltration.
Anonymous (ID: B4lBI7vQ) United States No.518847951 >>518848216 >>518850149 >>518859272 >>518864240 >>518866053 >>518866326
>>518847085 (OP)
Do not listen to Nick Fuentes! All whites should go to trade school and become plumbers. The Indian and Jewish ruling class will pay top dollar...actually scratch that. The Indians don't use toilets and the Jewish ruling class won't pay top dollar, but someone will need your services. Whatever you do, never join elite circles. If you're a zionist it's fine, but a white nationalist? Come on. You know you don't belong.
Anonymous (ID: hwK4EfF3) United States No.518848216 >>518850149 >>518863503 >>518866359
>>518847951
Total strawman. The universities, hedge funds, think tanks, and tech companies are constitutionally corrupt. We need to do what our ancestors did, not what the Jews did. For a variety of reasons that strategy is not viable. After spending four years in college I've learned that academia will not be saved. We'll need to start our own universities.
Anonymous (ID: gk/WEvyf) Argentina No.518849333 >>518849774 >>518850149 >>518853186 >>518860247 >>518869475
Honestly leftists are more based.
They are 10 times more racist than "nazis", they just know that niggers are inferior, but they don't care, because they don't have to deal with them, and get brownie (kek) points to say platitudes towards them.
It's all the same, for them crime is something abstract because they still live in their champagne bubble, they like immigration because they can pay less to workers, they can be "super genderfluid X3" because they are in their 20s and know they'll get a job after and won't be ostracized real society, but be applauded by their inner circle.
Meanwhile what do nationalists do ?? seethe about blacks all day ?? What do you think it's gonna happen ? The government will go "yeah, actually fuck niggers, let's kill them all" ??
Anonymous (ID: qvi62Xx+) United States No.518849774
>>518849333
Anonymous (ID: e/++Rsuf) Canada No.518850025 >>518850265
Infiltration is retarded. It has some practicality, but there's no fucking way the right will take over the country using Nick's strategy. First, the system is extremely hostile to us. Second, upwards mobility is extremely difficult now. Third, even if infiltration was successful, by the time it's complete, it'll be too late because America will be demographically fucked (although Nick doesn't really care about that).
Anonymous (ID: AptQB2bN) United States No.518850149 >>518864716
>>518847085 (OP)
Their goal is to destroy your ability to, "structure."
By this they mean creating white friendly companies and institutions.
It starts with getting everyone to just realize that they aren't white and they aren't American.
Then you must support the companies who's profits go to white causes and pockets.
Literally every other thing is a waste of time.
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>>518848216
>>518849333
Anonymous (ID: hwK4EfF3) United States No.518850265 >>518850428
>>518850025
Exactly. But if we create bottom-up institutions designed explicitly for us we stand a chance. The initial push is the hardest part, what we need to do is build our own companies and then siphon off graduates to our cause. We can then begin creating our own universities, PACs, and then start getting into government.
Anonymous (ID: e/++Rsuf) Canada No.518850428 >>518850575
>>518850265
I definitely think creating our own parallel societies is a great idea, but a big issue is that it's a legal minefield. If you want these new companies, universities, towns, et cetera to be White only then it's extremely difficult to enforce that without the government nuking everything. And if you don't make them White only then the entire pro-White movement we'd be trying to build would fall apart.
Anonymous (ID: hwK4EfF3) United States No.518850575
>>518850428
Exactly. Civil rights are the handcuffs currently on us, without the CRA we would've already won 10 times over. You can create an organization that explicitly works for pro-white causes, but what'll inevitably happen is that nons will apply for work, get rejected, sue, and then when they're fired for not working for pro-white causes, sue again. I'm not sure exactly what the answer to this is. Just do it anyways and hope it'll get to the Supreme Court?
Anonymous (ID: C1YpeBSl) United States No.518850880
Nick Fuentes is a literal 5'6 status seeking homosexual with a permanent chip on his shoulder and something to prove. He thinks that he's better than his fan base because they collectively gave him money thus making him rich. He buys and wears luxury niggershit just like Sam Hyde. Neither of these two cucks have anything to do with actual normal young white men. Both are grifters capitalizing off the idiots that fall for them. That's where their "success" has come from and nothing else.

You can't infiltrate shit because you will never get the chance. And even if you could, only the few could make it leaving being most others. This is the tiny Nick and Sam Jew strategy, to grift then say I got mine fuck you white man.

Hitler didn't get his and say fuck the average German man, he created a system that worked for them. Fuck Nick Fuentes and Sam Hyde.
Anonymous (ID: WBiWJhAI) No.518850957
WANT TO KNOW WHY JEWS PAY SHILLS TO SMEAR NICK FUENTES ONLINE 24/7?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/139a5uMMrgdNBAYf8UtRYA/

BECAUSE OF THIS:
https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes
https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes

>Nick Fuentes on the PBD Podcast
https://rumble.com/v6zd1l0-nick-fuentes-on-the-pbd-podcast.html

>The Assassination of Charlie Kirk
https://rumble.com/v6ytkcm-the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk.html

>EXPOSING Tucker Carlson
https://rumble.com/v6x2fjg-exposing-tucker-carlson.html

>Tim Pool is a FRAUD
https://rumble.com/v6u2uu5-tim-pool-is-a-fraud.html

>Conservatism is DEAD
https://rumble.com/v6ty8rr-conservatism-is-dead.html

>White People are DONE with Black Violence
https://rumble.com/v6sb2vf-white-people-are-done-with-black-violence.html

>The Effort to Delegitimize Criticism of Jews
https://rumble.com/v6s6jv9-the-effort-to-delegitimize-criticism-of-jews.html

>The PSYOP to Undermine the Mass Awakening
https://rumble.com/v6ryto7-the-psyop-to-undermine-the-mass-awakening.html

>Jews HATE The Catholic Church
https://rumble.com/v6qb3bq-jews-hate-the-catholic-church.html

>The Online Right Has Gone Full Circle
https://rumble.com/v5tt80e-the-online-right-has-gone-full-circle.html

>Your Body, My Choice
https://rumble.com/v5na9cq-your-body-my-choice.html

>Most Banned Man In America | Jake Shield's Fight Back Ep.9
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>It's Time to Tell the Truth about Jewish Power
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>The Fake Controlled Right Wing
https://rumble.com/v4x1vd5-the-fake-controlled-right-wing.html

>Nick Fuentes x Cheesur Stream
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>Nick Fuentes vs Gavin McInnes | Zionism DEBATE
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Anonymous (ID: f1V/b4lK) United States No.518851378 >>518852517
>>518847085 (OP)
Nick is a tranny
Anonymous (ID: hwK4EfF3) United States No.518852517
>>518851378
MTF or FTM?
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518853017 >>518864583
>>518847085 (OP)
>but beyond that it's hopeless
Honestly, when I hear stuff like this, I just think that's an excuse for you being a little bitch. You are a weak little bitch, a weak competitor in the marketplace, and so you get flushed out. Stop making excuses. Be cunning, be strong, be a predatory fish and not a minnow getting devoured.

It's like, imagine an athlete saying "it's so hard, I have so many disadvantages, wwahh". Then the champion goes out there and makes a fucking miracle happen, and you just sit around sucking your thumb.
Anonymous (ID: BhkAZ2UU) United Kingdom No.518853186 >>518853604
>>518849333
absolutely god awful, third world IQ "takedown" of the situation, fucking hell argentina and latin america at large were a mistake
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Anonymous (ID: gk/WEvyf) Argentina No.518853604
>>518853186
I'm being realist, I'm not saying they are good people, I'm just saying their way works for them, hell, they get dopamine hits every time they say systemic racism or socioeconomic factors, while they are the ones benefitting.
They have dialectic thought, since they are already upper class, having niggers behind them makes them look even better.
Meanwhile "racists" know that niggers are dumber (same as socialists), but they are retarded enough to say it out loud and regular people would chastise them, while still expect these people to behave like regular civilized people.
Look at how leftists treat minorities, like retarded babies. And they get social, economic or psychological benefit from it.
It's like when some guy crosses your car on the street, they don't care, but you are fucking fuming.
At the end of the day the problem is there, they are smart enough to not make it their problem, but use them as a prop for their own goal.
Anonymous (ID: RBt08/NI) United States No.518855802 >>518858194
>>518847085 (OP)
hes right you know
Anonymous (ID: xqfCjKQu) Mexico No.518856601
>>518847085 (OP)
retard he want you to be a good kike goy, and then betray them .

It's sounds plausible.
Anonymous (ID: +I84Ae07) United States No.518858194
>>518855802
>Nick Fuentes thinks its plausible for white nationalists to infiltrate the system because he exists outside of it.

He's a faggot that is only interested in getting views and selling his stupid meme merchandise. He is not a threat
Anonymous (ID: Mldtrqfz) Germany No.518858855 >>518859263
>>518847085 (OP)
Real red pill: Once you succeed in the system you stop being a mom’s basement dwelling gay theater kid with white nationalist ideals. You see the benefit in the system that rewarded our effort.
Classic Sorel.
Anonymous (ID: Mldtrqfz) Germany No.518859263
>>518858855
What I mean is white nationalist ideals need to use violence and subversive acts to unravel the system from outside. Once you enter the “functioning” status quo you will not hold anti-system sentiments anymore and even if your efforts will be internal to the system that benefited you. Sorel’s criticism was that all communist and syndicalists that entered the parliament trying to reform into a communist state would ultimately become like the parliamentarians they originally saw as enemies. They had their sinecure and trivial daily tasks and no longer wanted to destroy that.
Anonymous (ID: wi47hEas) United States No.518859272
>>518847951
This bro!!! Jordan Peterson told me whites should worship Jews and let them have all the positions of authority in society!
Anonymous (ID: HLroQo7S) United States No.518860247
>>518849333
Until you realize that whites are going extinct and losing control of major companies. Once two back-to-back non-white presidents run this country that'll set in. Then these supposedly based leftists and their white children will never have power again
Anonymous (ID: FW1+BPwh) United States No.518862706
>>518847085 (OP)
White people already created those universities. Americans in particular have this cowardly notion that you can always just run away to some new frontier to avoid conflict. But there is no more frontier - you either take back your own cities and your own universities by force or you lose and die. That's it. The hills won't save you.
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518863503 >>518863684
>>518848216
Organisation is all that matters.
The problem here is the lack of effective White organisation not planning, there isn't a single WN organisation worth mentioning, even the KKK is a meme.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518863684 >>518863986
>>518863503
I think the organization will happen naturally. The synapses will connect naturally. The goal is just getting more people redpilled. This is a "mass" problem, it's about getting an overwhelming mass of redpilled people using twitter, social media, and whatever we can squeeze out of this government. We should be pushing SUPER HARD for some kind of Section 230 reform that forces Google, Apple, and Youtube to host redpilled content. Blow the gates off the censorship and then we can make real progress.

I've always believed the only thing that's required for use to win is to tell the truth. Additionally, some humor helps disarm people and batter down their defenses.

We just need everyone out there redpilling. More and more redpills. It's never enough. Picture yourself trying to fill a massive lake with red dye one bucket at a time. We need more, and more. We need dump trucks backing up and pouring into the lake. Wake everyone up.
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518863986 >>518864270
>>518863684
>I think the organization will happen naturally
Organization at scale NEVER happens naturally.
It's always a conscious effort.
> The goal is just getting more people redpilled
Plenty already have been.
> using twitter, social media, and whatever we can squeeze out of this government.
You do realize that such platforms are either under direct or indirect jew control, right...?
> We should be pushing SUPER HARD for some kind of Section 230 reform that forces Google, Apple, and Youtube to host redpilled content.
Sure, but you are gonna need a FUCKING organization and lots of funding for that.
If Whites were organized they could lobby for such thing, they could even negotiate with external actors to get funding, for example I am sure the gulfies will be happy to finance a White lobby as a counter balance to the jew lobby.
But this can ONLY happen if Whites collectivise.
Jews can effectively influence US decision making because they are HIGHLY ORGANIZED, unlike Whites who are utterly agonized and are just pursuing materialistic BS.
The organised minority will ALWAYS defeat the disorganized majority.
Anonymous (ID: nI3m5Svc) Croatia No.518864068 >>518864910
>>518847085 (OP)
And once you create them, the jews will once again infiltrate them.
Anonymous (ID: A8roryiJ) United States No.518864240
>>518847085 (OP)
>>518847951
I just became a warlord. I run Memphis. So far so good.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518864270 >>518864445 >>518864828
>>518863986
>Sure, but you are gonna need a FUCKING organization and lots of funding for that.
No you just need to wheedle Elon to lean on Trump. That's all it would take.
Literally all we need is a platform to speak. Once we have it, it's game over. Before Youtube was clamped down, the right was winning debates all over the place, nobody could even argue it.
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518864423 >>518864523
>>518847085 (OP)
All of you coping faggots itt need realise that your half measures are doomed to fail. Idk how many of you are willfully ignorant of that but you either have to go to one extreme or the other. Either you want some kind of resolution that preserves your comfy life or don't worry about muh legal ramifications and go full Waco. Any solution that overlaps is already gamed out by the system and accounted for. Jews hedge their bets that Goyim don't truly want to leave the animal farm. This thread is a testament to that.
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518864445 >>518864873
>>518864270
>No you just need to wheedle Elon to lean on Trump. That's all it would take.
Orange man is compromised, his daughter is literally married to a kike, he is funded by kikes and he carries their water.
> Literally all we need is a platform to speak
Again, all mainstream platforms with the exception of Tiktok are under jew control (directly or indirectly).
And even tiktok is going to get sold to kikes thanks to Trump.
Trump is no savior.
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518864523 >>518864749
>>518864423
Sometimes, the slaves are just content with being slaves and fear life outside the plantation...
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518864583 >>518864821
>>518853017
The mentality of hopelessness is simply a demoralisation campaign. It's a successful one too. When you think to yourself you can't do something, the kikes have already won.
Anonymous (ID: ZRldQLPE) United States No.518864716
>>518850149
This organization was shut down on September 30th. It may be possible for whites to organize again. There was talk about this 10 years ago. They just pushed young white men out of the work force with DEI. But now they are surrounded by incompetence.
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518864749
>>518864523
Exactly. I would rather see people take the other extreme. Which is simply non participation. Mind you the arena in which this happens is mental. People are trying to solve this from the top down. Nick's solution is at just one that manifests from within so it would work. Humans do not decide to do things. We manifest our will. If what's in your head is defeated, you are defeated.
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518864821
>>518864583
I think that's also why jews are going full mask off these days.
> Look at what we can do, Goyim!
> You can't do shit to us, we OWN you!
It's pure demoralizion, that many fall for.
At the end of the day, Whites are quantitatively and qualitatively superior to the jew, all they need is a will to power.
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518864828 >>518864922
>>518864270
Stop being cattle and waiting for someone else to save you.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518864873 >>518865293 >>518865395 >>518865519
>>518864445
One of the things I don't like about the organizations you guys tend to create, is there becomes a "bidding war" almost for who can be the most radical guy. It keeps ramping up, and ramping up, everyone attempting to be even more radical. If you're not radical enough, they accuse you of being a jew, a fed, or a black person....etc.

If this organization is going to be a proto-state, a state-in-waitin, you need to understand that compromises will be made. It might be necessary to have a temporary alliance with the zionists, or the communists, or whatever. Get some funding, even if it's from sources that are less than desirable.

I think it's a balancing act.
A guy like Charlie Kirk was so far gone that he was almost completely compromised. He does what his paymasters say.
A guy like Mike Enoch is the opposite, so "pure" to his cause that he refuses to make any concession that might increase his chances of winning.
A true movement would have to be somewhere in the middle. You'd need purity of cause, but you'd also have to make concessions to gather power. Look at Fuentes, giving an Olive Branch to Kanye, and Sneako, and Loomer. He's making temporary alliances to get powerful, and it's working out for him.

I remember Asmon said, he does about 30% of his content for popularity, 30% of his content is what he's good at, and 40% is what he enjoys doing.
That's a balancing act, but it leads to success.
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518864910
>>518864068
As they have always done. However in other ages people were aware of the Jew and deliberately did not let them take power. However eventually the Goyim became lazy and figured they'd let the Jews handle their little details.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518864922 >>518865073
>>518864828
cattle to simply want freedom of speech? That's a right, that's literally a birthright.
Anonymous (ID: 8R4bSMa7) United States No.518865030 >>518865163 >>518865181
We don’t infiltrate things. We build them or we conquer them by force. We especially don’t infiltrate things that we built in the first place.
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518865073 >>518865305
>>518864922
You are already free. What you want is to be validated in that freedom. It's why they go to such lengths to make you think otherwise. So yes you are cattle for waiting for someone else to tell you that you may speak freely.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518865163 >>518865333
>>518865030
To change the system, you have to play by the rules of the current system. Pretend that you're playing a game of chess, and the only way to change the rules of the game, or play a different game, is to win.
That's the environment you're in. Right now, it's very important you understand the game that you're in, and what you have to do to win. You can't play by the rules you want, you have to accept your situation. If you're trapped in a hole, you have to figure out a way to escape using whatever tools are at your disposal.

Right now, infiltration is the strategy. You just can't oppose the system right now, it's too powerful. It's like a fucking unstoppable monster that keeps gathering steam. But it's super vulnerable to infiltration. I mean look how many groups have infiltrated, it's an open system
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518865181
>>518865030
So what's the difference between taking something back and away from your enemies and conquering or building? Do you people not realise that very mode of thinking is the result of Jewish demoralisation? If you are of European stock, you can do anything. The only thing that can get in your way is you.
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518865293
>>518864873
This is because groups like this are for groupfags. You can't just create an institution out of nothing and decree it has worth without attracting people who would rather find value this way.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518865305 >>518865419
>>518865073
Trump was supposed to be the guy we smuggled past the gate. We shouldn't be forced to do that 10 more times to get somewhere. That was supposed to be IT. It's totally reasonable to use that great feat that we all pushed for, to blow the doors of the censorship machine. I wanna see hitler speeches on youtube.
Anonymous (ID: LsOG6gpe) Canada No.518865333 >>518865573
>>518865163
wrongo brownoid.
whites change the system by refusing to participate in the current one
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518865395 >>518865707 >>518865935
>>518864873
> is there becomes a "bidding war" almost for who can be the most radical guy. It keeps ramping up, and ramping up, everyone attempting to be even more radical. If you're not radical enough, they accuse you of being a jew, a fed, or a black person....etc
Purity spiraling is a tactic often used by feds to destroy organisation, what is your point, exactly?
Organisations are still the most effective ways to pursuit collective interests.
> If this organization is going to be a proto-state, a state-in-waitin, you need to understand that compromises will be made.
As long as they do not endanger the core goals of the group.
> It might be necessary to have a temporary alliance with the zionists,
UnAcceptable, since the whole point is to FUCKING escape their grip, it's like expecting a host to ally with a parasite, the genetic interests of Whites and jews are inherently at odds.
> or the communists, or whatever. Get some funding, even if it's from sources that are less than desirable.
Again, as long as it doesn't jeopardize the core goals, it's fine.
> Look at Fuentes, giving an Olive Branch to Kanye, and Sneako, and Loomer. He's making temporary alliances to get powerful, and it's working out for him.
That's fine so as long as it doesn't compromise the goals.
If you concede the primary goal of of the movement, which is to be free of jewish institutional control and non Whites in general, than your organization is worthless.
Anonymous (ID: scJp8nT7) United States No.518865399
>>518847085 (OP)
>go to scam (((college))), goy
shabbhat shalom, hymie!
got a high apt usury contract to sell to me too?
filthy fucking kike
Anonymous (ID: UFuG+2Yj) Australia No.518865419
>>518865305
Nigga Trump and this administration is the Trojan horse that is the culmination of using this place and other imageboards as a test bed for psyops. Come the fuck on they put him up against Killary and Cumala, you really think this is organic? The whole thing is manufacturing consent with Hegelian dialectic. You newfag /pol/tards fucking disgust me.
Anonymous (ID: TyJdImgd) No.518865451
Most obvious federal derad agent award goes to, drumroll please - optics man. If only we just pretend we love jews, White Genocide will go away on its own! White pride is loser shit!

Its called D&C, and funnily enough, its the same strategy the left had after Kirks assassination. What do you know, Fuentes is antifa. News at 6.
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518865519 >>518865683
>>518864873
>I remember Asmon said, he does about 30% of his content for popularity, 30% of his content is what he's good at, and 40% is what he enjoys doing.
>That's a balancing act, but it leads to success
One thing to note about Asmon, he along with e-enemy (brown Fabio) is getting bankrolled by the same jewish company (night media).
It's unreasonable to expect someone being funded by jews to go against them, if jews ever FEEL threatened by one of their shabbos Goyim, they will simply cut funding or take him out (see Charlie Kirk).
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518865573
>>518865333
I always admired the classical polymaths. You know guys like Gauss, Galleo, Newton, Lagrange....etc. These guys are so fucking good, this is the CREAM of western civilization. This is what it's all about.
So when I think of the white ideal, that's who I'm thinking about, those guys.

The thing they specialize in is objectively analyzing their world, and then processing it rationally, and figuring out solutions. Tesla, Edison, Maxwell, these guys were incredible.

Just treat this as a problem to solve. How do you solve this problem? Take your ego out of the question, and think about it. Embrace the mantle of western civilization.
Anonymous (ID: 2asH1aQe) United States No.518865683
>>518865519
You are wrong, the best place to be is a high school.


The best place to be is the most isolated place possible.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518865707 >>518866035
>>518865395
I can see what you're saying. I think that you might have to think about it more in a market sense. Like "here's the cost we're willing to accept for an alliance" and that cost might be higher for one group or another. But if you completely write off a paritcular alliance, you're making yourself less versatile. It's like, you're removing squares on the chess board you can move to. It could fuck you over in the calculus. Just like in chess, a lot of these options won't necessarily be triggered, but having them open could be important.
Anonymous (ID: kg/+Cebo) United States No.518865813 >>518866090 >>518866515 >>518866598
>>518847085 (OP)
The thing people don’t understand about Nick is he’s a Hamiltonian. The regime,
both left and right, love Hamilton. The reason America sucks so hard is because Hamilton’s vision for America won. All power is concentrated in DC, the states are comparatively weaker, and the regime pursues endless conflict abroad to the benefit of an aristocratic class of moneyed interests. Wars abroad to assert dominance lead to endless refugees coming here. Nick, and people who think like him, believe DC can be won back. The fact is it can’t be won back. The solution isn’t a long march through institutions, the solution is secession from DC. If the states don’t secede then the people will never get their sovereignty back. The loss of our sovereignty is the root cause of our woes. Nick is not a radical, he’s basically a FoxNews Republican who believes we’re only a few elections away from getting it all back. We don’t want to share a country with liberals, leftwingers, progressives, Marxists, secularists, atheists and nihilists. We’d be better off going our own way then to be wedded to forces which are corrosive to civilization.
Anonymous (ID: scJp8nT7) United States No.518865935
>>518865395
>Organisations are still the most effective ways to pursuit collective interests.
you wish, memeflag hymie, we've found a far better way, one that is perfectly immune to your jewish attempts at infiltration, interloping, and pilpulling
Anonymous (ID: 0CoyiKoY) No.518866035
>>518865707
The cost is always higher for the White side.
Look at someone like Charley Kirk who made a career out of licking Israel's boots, look at what happened to him the second he decided to go against their narrative.
Look at Trump, he did nothing but suck Israel's dick and did NOTHING for his White base.
You are playing a losing game.
Jews currently have WAY too much leverage over Whites, they lost some of it due to liberals (their natural pet) stepping away from them, but they still have plenty of it.
Trying to make a fair deal with jews, would be like a 3rd world shithole country (say Nigeria) trying to make a fair trade deal agreement with the US, it's not happening because within the current context one party just has WAY too much leverage over the other.
Anonymous (ID: oVe9LVM1) United States No.518866053
>>518847951
It's true. But we need apps that recognize and suggest white owned businesses and products. That alone would help a ton, and businesses like Safeway would see: their customer base is very very pro white whoop whoop
Anonymous (ID: scJp8nT7) United States No.518866090
>>518865813
the existence of the devil's crucible is itself the critical failing and critical problem of the american question, it needs to be eliminated in totality, and anyone with federalist dreams after that executed on the spot
Anonymous (ID: fc/aA0+7) United States No.518866265 >>518866572
Nick is fully aware that the country is dying. He is just doing what he believes is the last non violent method of taking back America
Blackpilling is too depressing
Anonymous (ID: nN/VZlHz) United States No.518866326
>>518847951
Anonymous (ID: nN/VZlHz) United States No.518866359
>>518848216
>We need to do what our ancestors did
go to college?
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518866515 >>518866655
>>518865813
I don't agree. I think the founders were idealists. I think as the American experiment has progressed we've learned why a lot of the systems that existed in Europe were put in place.

One of the biggest things missing in America was an established Aristocracy. The constitution banned titles of nobility, and the government is thoroughly elected with every single precaution against a rogue executive. Even the two houses of Congress were basically a copy of the English system (house of Commons, house of Lords) but without the aristocratic element.

So America removed the aristocracy, and what do you know, became the football of a group of business titans and oligarchs. These two things are related.
If America had a homegrown aristocracy this might not have happened. We had something like that with the old Wasp elite, which unfortunately fell apart. The US security state pretty much works on seniority with little real oversight.

So I think there was a fundamental misunderstanding with why the aristocracy was necessary, and the founders were idealists who were guided by religious beliefs.
Anonymous (ID: u77vBu9k) United States No.518866572
>>518866265
>Offering a solution that knows wouldn't work because...it's le traumatizing otherwise
I thought Nick was supposed to be a redpilling based trailblazer (according to the Groypers), so why is he treading water and misleading his followers?
Anonymous (ID: uy1Y1vPF) New Zealand No.518866598
>>518865813
I disagree. He isn't "anything'. His political views are completely outside of American traditions and not consistent with the Protestant, White-settler vision the Founding Fathers have. Fuentes's conception of America is basically a Catholic autocracy with Brazilian demographics. In this sense, Fuentes isn't really 'American' at all - and he wouldn've have been seen as much.
Anonymous (ID: uc3mSms6) United States No.518866655
>>518866515
>The US security state pretty much works on seniority with little real oversight.
I worded this so badly, my apologies. I'm saying, the US does have some elements of an aristocracy, and they actually are pretty effective. Like the US security state pretty much works that way, and it's been pretty damn effective, if misguided. They took down the soviet union in 40 years. Pretty damn impressive.
In one sense you can just see the US as the security state, with the elected government as nothing but a facade propped up against it.
Anonymous (ID: KhR6Dvqo) Sweden No.518866873
>>518847085 (OP)
We should keep pushing the idea that getting an education is a bad thing for white men.
Anonymous (ID: eud+aYhM) United States No.518866916
>>518847085 (OP)
>Just go to the elite colleges that auto reject you for being a white male
>Then get a job at the government that auto rejects you for being a white male
Trump’s DEI rollbacks did nothing. He only made it so you can’t brag about excluding people based on race and gender. Hiring managers and admissions teams can still reject you and they don’t even have to disclose why.
Anonymous (ID: hriFBafN) Russian Federation No.518867143 >>518867361 >>518867399
two glaring flaws with the logic:

"fake it until you make it" doesn't take into the psychology of faking it. provided you aren't a serial killer tier psychopath, you're liable to fall victim to "telling a lie enough times until you believe it yourself." it's a very real psychological feedback loop, basically a form of "psyopping yourself." academia isn't left leaning because every tenured individual was carefully curated and audited as a jewish subversionist, but rather because the culture was carefully curated and audited, and the individuals gradually adapted to it over time. right wingers are no less susceptible to this, no matter how resilient and ideologically dedicated they may believe themselves to be.

the second flaw is there simply isn't that much time. the gradual subversion of academia took almost a century. whites are rapidly becoming a minority in a society that is becoming rapidly more antagonistic towards whites and white interests. every time the pendulum swings the other way, the left escalates in a disproportionate manner that the right refuses to meet. this is not a tenable long term strategy. that nick & others believe this is simply a "waiting game" shows that they don't actually have any real skin in the game, and if push comes to shove, they will always choose flight over fight (this, too, has been a losing strategy for whites)

the only conscious development for the white spirit moving forward is recognizing the unfortunate reality that there is neither a political nor an institutional solution to this problem, which at this point is existential.
Anonymous (ID: XYkdOOJM) Finland No.518867238
>>518847085 (OP)
Building parallel institutions and at the same time infiltrating the system are both pretty good ideas, thats what jews actually do, they diversify their approach or atleast used to, modern jews aren't as capable as the jews who did all the leg work
Anonymous (ID: OPNanKXt) United Kingdom No.518867352
>>518847085 (OP)
Yeah the system will be dead by the time zoomers come to power and they are the most anti-white generation.
Anonymous (ID: XYkdOOJM) Finland No.518867361 >>518867444
>>518867143
Good post exept the there is no political solution part, there is a political solution to every problem that was created by politics
Anonymous (ID: OPNanKXt) United Kingdom No.518867399
>>518867143
Tbh
Anonymous (ID: OPNanKXt) United Kingdom No.518867444 >>518867839
>>518867361
Not in the US where they are less than half white. The whites can't vooote their way out of it if they aren't the majority.
Anonymous (ID: XYkdOOJM) Finland No.518867839
>>518867444
Politics is just power relations between individuals and groups, voting is an incredibly small and insignificant part of politics, especially in America
Anonymous (ID: LIKDVDSU) Romania No.518867877
>>518847085 (OP)
George Carlin
>it's a big club and you ain't in it
And they will never let you just infiltrate shit , it's a tight knit group with resources to vet anyone trying to punch up ,they will find out who you are and your beliefs and they'll destroy you point blank
You wanna inflitrate positions of power where the NSA is balls deep surveiling and picking their prospects for the new generation
Number 2, these positions are already taken by nepobabies , CIA/NSA/FBI you name it , you don't get into shit believe me
Even Alex Jones admitted that his dad was CIA
Tucker carlson? Same shit
Andrew Tate yessir ,you dig hard enough and you realize all this shit is rigged so hard it's not even funny
Look at Barron trum , insider trading shorted the crypto market so he can get a yacht ,nobody saying shit( oh muh future Caesar) , nick making basedboys and groypers think they can mingle at ballrooms with these people gimme a break
We're slaves , we are slaves and the top tier has all the means and tech to keep us as such
Wake the fuck up
Anonymous (ID: D4FwxU66) Australia No.518869475 >>518870932
>>518849333
>they don't have to deal with them
Anon lefties get killed by niggers every other week.
Anonymous (ID: A8roryiJ) United States No.518870932
>>518869475
Yea they just come for a walk through the worst hoods and get robbed and shot all the time. Even gang banging niggas won’t go to the places they go. They really have no sense of danger until it gets past the point of no return.
Anonymous (ID: SpM/oWlN) United States No.518871525
>>518847085 (OP)
Who cares. Nick Fuentes is an fbi informant.