Thread 518847442

Who was building these things back in the days? i work construction and everything we make is hard as fuck but theres hardly any detail in the stone work we make today

>>518847442 (OP)
People didn't have to work that much when they made those, because they didn't have Jew Bankers.
The donated their work to the Church, having most of the year as leisure time and donating was a good thing. Opportunity to better their skills too.
Nothing like it in the USA because we were afflicted by Jew bankers from the start.

Years built
1248–1560
1842–1880
1950s–present (restoration)

>>518847442 (OP)
This is now an architecture thread

>>518847442 (OP)
You cant believe in Tartaria without unironically believing in Yakub

>>518848012
LOL, mud flood fags aren't as idiotic yakub worshippers

>wtf what do you mean that commoners built this kind of stuff in the span of 300 years but skyscrapers made to optimize profits and give a 10 year return look like garbage?
Architecturally we peaked at art deco.

>>518847912
This is insane. Why is 4chan allowed to exist? Racist white nationalists are influencing impressionable young children and teens with preposterous drivel. Donated their work to the chirch most of the time? Had abundant free time? Those are patently false, and your premise about Jewish control of the economy is preposterous. Lots of people have money that they invest - to reduce the lack of artistry in modern architecture to an antisemitic trope is disingenuous. As a matter of fact, we have revolutionized architecture and design and underwritten loans on thousands of beautiful buildings in America. You're blinded by your hatred and it is shameful.

>>518848003
This is my favorite postwar Church. The Church of Saint Joseph in Le Havre. It's like something out of a sci-fi movie.

>>518848455
>no, goy! Don't tell them about life before the jews!!
I see some kvetching, but you don't refute this book. Page 29, the caption on the image of the cathedral. Book cites G.M. Trevelyan

now, get back into the oven, kike bro. Tired of your lies and shit

>>518848455
Look, before there was 4chan there was always something else. A place where the youth of the day would find ideas that challenged the status quo. Where they'd learn hard truths about the world perhaps without the knowledge or experience to process them constructively. You could try and contrive ways to restrict and shutdown these places, sure, and like a hyrda four more chans. Four more reddits and telegrams and discord services with private chats, they all appear with fresh coats of paint and new toys for you to get trolled by
Or idk you could raise your fucking kids to be prepared to understand these hard truths yourself, so that one day they grow up and learn how to discern for themselves which sources of what information are valid and which should be considered with a grain of salt.
You absolute fuckwit

>>518847442 (OP)
that specifically?
germans

>>518847442 (OP)
It took decades for them to build those things, imagine what you could build if you had decades to build on the same thing

>>518847442 (OP)
Just imagine how crazy it looked when it was first completed

>>518847442 (OP)
>Who was building these things back in the days?
Whites could never make something like that. It has to be space aliens.

>>518847442 (OP)
>Who was building these things back in the days?
Black people

>>518849131
it actually took centuries to build the cologne cathedral
kek
its a miracle they ever finished it

>>518847442 (OP)
gothic architecture is demonically inspired and it's a giant symbol of an ancient cult, usually describing the sacred marriage
the ''church'' is much older than they claim
there's also a lot of retards who claim it produces energy depending on positions of celestial objects

>>518848920
>Look, before there was 4chan there was always something else
Wiener Kaffeehäuser. Vienna coffee houses. In the 19th century, men met there to discuss news and politics, even forbidden subjects such as anti-monarchism (pic related is the "Cafe NAtional" where anti monarchist, leftist nationalists - yes, that was a thing - met). No idea if everyone was a Jew as one her ethough.

>>518849264
The Colognians didn't finish it, it was the Prussians. And if youb ever lived in Cologne for a while, you can totally believe this story,.

>>518849331
makes sense
lmao

>>518847442 (OP)
couldnt you find a better image mate?

>>518848455
>Donated their work to the chirch most of the time? Had abundant free time?
Medieval peasants worked less than half of the year full-time. The entirety of winter was more or less just light chores and handicrafts because you can't fuckin' farm in winter.
Sundays were mandated rest days, Saturdays were frequently half-days, all major holy days (Epiphany, Candlemas, Annunciation, Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, Pentecost, Easter, Christmas, etc) were mandatory rest days, as well as a pretty big chunk of saint's feast days being either full or half rest days (This particular type of observance varied significantly by region) - and there are a LOT of saint's feast days.

And it's true that significant amounts of labor and material were donated to The Church for construction, but it's also true that this is hardly true of every grand cathedral - some where financed and built by the people, some were sponsored by nobility, royalty, or the merchant class, some were financed via taxes and tithes, and some like Rouen here were financed by a culturally blind 'indulgence'

>>518848455
The problem could fundamentally be the loans. Church tithes and multigenerational thinking didn't produce razor thin cookie cutter bullshit. It produced real works of art. Construction loans have a term, and it wasn't 100-300 years to build a lasting cathedral in those days. Now it's built fast and build shit.

>>518850163
>chirch
actually I think it should be spelled this way.

>>518848632
That's a pretty neat one, anon. Like a 90's office building, a flak tower, a church, and a lighthouse had a baby.
I far prefer gothic but this is the least soulless concrete church I've seen.

>>518848455
gr8 b8 m8

Possibly during the 1000 year millennial kingdom of Jesus Christ and then the people making these would be saints who are serving God. This view has the reign starting when Jesus came back to destroy the temple in year 70, then when Satan comes out for the little season described in revelations to deceive the world, perhaps it was 1070, as this when other records start, or maybe they forwarded the calendar to around 1500 or 1800.

>>518847912
Pretty sure they were paid for their labor buddy. You can't create something like picrel working a few weeks out of the year for free.

>>518848455
By commenting and spazzing out about it you make it worse.

>>518847442 (OP)
>Who was building these things
Uhh, the builders?

>>518847442 (OP)
We don't really know, all we know for certain is kikes are lying about it on wikipedia and ascribing credit to architects who weren't even alive yet or were like 3 years old when the project finished. There is a huge gap in knowledge in regard to these buildings and kikes seem to have been deliberate destroying a lot of them for the past like 150 years

>>518847952
>2pbp
It took a long time to build these cathedrals, a century even.
Skilled craftsman, stone cutters, masons, wood workers, iron workers, etc.
One thing is for certain, they were built to last (unlike our stick framed houses in the US).

>>518848455
> Kveching
If you don't like being (((noticed))) stop being the cause of all the world's problems

You might want to get on that while the LongBeak tribe is still allowed to exist.

>>518847442 (OP)
Men were more serious back then and not a bunch of pussies and snitching bitches back then. Back then men were MEN and took care of business legal, questionable or even outright illegal in private like you are supposed to not do hall monitor little bitch shit because you didn't get your way. You don't need some wild conspiracy for that one. It's not rocket science. You guys are all just a bunch of soft asses. Also why you don't get girls.

Do you not follow scriptures? Everything and anything is there for decerning.
The builder caste. But these were built during the third age of man. All the monoliths at aren't weathered away pertain to those. The ones that are weathered in the dead deserts are from the second age of mankind. The first age is long buried.
Yet when we find veins of minerals, we are burning up and destroying relics of the past. Entire cities compressed into the fuel we so frivolously consume.

>>518851050
All I've noticed lately are jews outing other jews as being paricularly jewish
And a distinct lack of images of compelling ancient architecture or logic for why humans stopped building not just elaborate cathedrals but other strickingly ornate grand buildings on a frequent basis.
So I'll offer a suggestion. Wars funnel manpower and resources towards different endeavors and over time such things take up less signifcance in the dominate culture.

>>518848455
Fuck you Kike

>>518847442 (OP)
aliens helped the goyim to build them temples.

>>518851042
There are thousands of cathedrals and tens of thousands of Parish churches, monasteries, cloisters, chapels, abbeys you name it.
The work required vs population vs available calories doesnt sound right even over centuries.

>>518848455
Does it terrorize you jew? Knowing that no matter how much you lie and control the narrative. We know just how evil you really are. We've always known. But we've forgiven you, time and time again. Hoping that you would better yourselves. But you never have. You continue to transgress against us. We've run out of forgiveness for you. For you are a shameless people. Offended by everything. There is no redemption for you in the eyes of God.

>>518847442 (OP)
Modern construction is all about quantity > quality. They train you enough so you can put a shitbox together so jews can charge exorbitant amounts to the goyim. Back when jews didn't control everything, people took pride in their work and were trained in skilled trades under masters and journeymen for a life time. Buildings took a long time to complete and lasted even longer.

>>518848632
Certainly one of the more interesting post war churches is the Kaiser Wilhelm church in Berlin.
I'm not a fan of the modern look, but it contrasts very well with the pre/post war theme.

>>518847442 (OP)
Aliens

>>518849548
thank you

>>518850522
A cathedral dedicated to the Russian military
Lightning struck three people outside the main entrance a few years ago.
An omen, some might say.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/moment-least-three-people-hit-33344404

>>518851951
And they dominated the skylines. Typical homes used to house multiple-generation families. Even among the wealthy. Peasants did not have choice. Did not have rights. Were seen as a commodity to be used by a select few, always, to fuel their own purpose or desires. Be it raise buildings to honor their elders, to mark places of significance, or to serve as monuments to their greatness, this has been the way for a good portion of written history.

It was not as if people back then had the convience of fast travel, either. So what would there be for a person to do? Except create whatever it is in their local space as best as they possibly could. It's not like having pride in one's work is a modern value. And the arists and scientists at the time all courted the churches, as a means to further their own selfish sciences and creative puruits to the most fullest - they held all the fucking wealth, of course their shit got to look the finest. If you wanted to learn any art. Music. Science. You most likely learned it through the church because thats where all the literate and learned people fucking were.

>>518847912
fpbp

This guy has an entire channel on it. The cathedrals with thousand of ancient bones underneath their catacombs is pretty trippy, they're all over the world.

https://m.youtube.com/@Mylunchbreak

>>518847442 (OP)
the ancient world had much higher technology than is generally admitted. the pyramids were built using lasers as we saw in the documentary the great pyramid of giza. they also used water to cut the stone to make it fit perfectly together.

>>518847442 (OP)
Sloped roof+Tall windows=Class

>>518847442 (OP)
passion and dedication
people back then had nothing to do but hone their crafts

>>518848455
What a kvetching loser

>>518847442 (OP)
lol these cathedrals took forever to build. its like the big paintings inside, the artist who actually did it just died and someone else had to continue his work.

>>518847952
300 years ;D

>>518850856
According to the History of Central Banking, they only worked 14 weeks a year. So 38 weeks of free time, and they could volunteer some of that to the Church.
You're applying modern "common sense" to a reality free of jew banking, "Buddy"

>>518847912
The church were the jew bankers you idiot. They had indulgences and shit and out people into massive amounts of debt to be paid off via work.

>>518847912
that doesn't even make sense. even if we accept the "le medival peasants had 90% leisure time bro just trust me!" idiocy that yopu pulled from reddit at face value, banks didnt change the way labour was organized and operated, it was industrialization. the majority of the population is not sustenance/serfdom farming because industrialization and the ned of serfdom led to a n industrialized production and wage labour, not vaguely because of "jewish bankers". people stopped being dirt farming serfs and started being wage labourers working regular 9-5 wage labour in factories.


antisemites are truly the dumbest fuckers on the planet kek

>>518857771
If you mean the Charity of Pope Leo, they didn't charge interest, IDIOT.
You took out a loan (usually for a public works), then paid it back. If you didn't, the Church ate the loss, IDIOT.
And the whole indulgence thing... that only gets you out of purgatory sooner. You're an IDIOT and gibbering about things you have no idea of, just what Pastor Billy-Bob told you to hate Catholics, so you do.

>>518857964
More like 70% leisure time. I already cited the book. You cite your ass.
The whole idea of Banking was very different back then. Oh my gawd, then you gibber about farming... Yes, they were majority farmers all the way up to 1950s.
Oh, you're a jew... no wonder.

>>518858122
ok my double digit IQ friend.lets walk through this step by step like youre a child since you obviously have the mental capacity of one

the premise: people had 70% free leisure time even though this is objectively wrong i will accept this axiom as true for the purpose of this discussion

so the question then is is: how were they living, that is, what aspect of their lifestyle, gave them this free time?

>>518858263
They planted in the spring, harvested in the fall.
Simple as.
I mean, you're obviously having trouble with the concept because your cognitive dissonance is making you foam at the mouth.
Take a deep breath and take it in. They don't have a horse, a car, a cell phone... they just build a house and farm. Simple as.

>>518858812
>They planted in the spring, harvested in the fall.

good job! im so proud of you kiddo!

ok, no now, why did the population begin shifting away from agriculture to urbanization? why did urban environments begin producing increasing amounts of job opportunities leaving less and less people "planting in the spring and harvesting in the fall"?

>>518847442 (OP)
buddy whens the last time a job you worked on took centuries?

>>518858963
What do you think they did?
Flip burgers for a living?
Go be a dumb ass kike somewhere else. this playing stupid you're doing is annoying and just so fucking jewish...

>>518859062
HAHAHA whats the matter anon, why cant you answer the question?

>>518859062
oh and for the record
>What do you think they did?
the answer you are looking for is that industrial agricultural equipment changed how farms operated and but a huge dent in demand for manual labour on farms, and at the same time this was happening, the emergence of industrialized production meant labour demand in urban environments were exploding with factories opening up, and subsequently expanding infrastructure and increasing demand for auxiliary services

also for the record: you have obviously never fucking stepped foot on a farm in your life if you think agriculture is "simple as" planting in the spring

t. actually grew up in family full of farmers in rural Alberta

>>518858024
Oh no... the heckin interest!!
You only had to sell your life away to the church.

Fuck off. People worked on those things until they fucking died. The church was the bank, and traditional "banks" existed back then and weren't Jewish run either.

>>518847442 (OP)
some kiwi poker streamer i watch was schizo-ranting about this last night. majin, is that you? you think aliens built them or what?

>>518851951
>>518852877
is this shit really going to be the next contrarian moron conspiracy theory? that gothic cathedrals are "too advanced" and therefore must be the result of an elaborate jewish cover-up?
>what are they hiding? what don't they want us to know?
this shit is so tiresome. humans have been around for like 100,000 years. you really don't believe that in the last thousand years, we built some impressive buildings? look at the shit the egyptians built 3000 years ago. look at the romans' pantheon and colosseum from 2000 years ago. but gothic cathedrals are some mystical alien-tech that defies conventional explanation? this is why democracy doesnt work--people are just too fucking dumb. and the ones saying catherdrals are part of a conspiracy are people who think theyre smarter than the 'sheep'.

>>518847442 (OP)
industrialization put a lot of stone masons out of work, globalization completely killed the trade for those that remained. we lost a lot of skilled artisans when the silent generation died because boomers didnt feel like learning their skills. same with riveting and other mastercraft techniques. see, even if you outsource stuff to thirdies theres no guarentee they will actually do them correctly. The chinese for example were too stupid to figure out how to rivet like the americans, so they adopted an easier/inferior machine version that the soviets used. thats why we cant make catherdrals and v2 rockets anymore.

>>518850163
You're an idiot. As if chores and handicrafts aren't work. And "chores" back then were much harder than today. It wasn't vacuuming for 5 minutes and taking dishes out of a dishwasher. They still had to feed the animals. They still had to milk the cows. They still had to clean after the animals. They still had to chop the firewood. Even on those so called free days.

They had to take care of things that today happens automatically, like heating the house or washing clothes. Make butter, cheese, repair the house, repair clothing, make tools. Every peasant had a sidejob to make some extra money.

Plus they had to do unpaid labor for the lord for certain amount of time, which in some period and places was up to 100 days.

The idea they only worked for half a year was promoted by some author, who since then revoked the claim. But it keeps being repeated by morons who like to think "hurr durr we're forced to work more than medieval peasants". No, everyone today works less unless you live in a third world.

>>518852877
Look at the length of British stone walls in all the places. There are around 80k miles of such stone walls and each yard weighs 1 tonne.

>>518859999
Digits.
Look at US court houses. Look at their construction time line and the buildings themselves. Most took 1 year to build.

>>518851951
>The work required
They had more time to focus on craftsmanship without internet tranny hypno and video games
>population
There were plenty of people around, in fact cities were overpopulated by the 1500s thus the need for colonial expansion
>available calories
Churches would donate food to the workers. Bread, cheese and wine was widely abundant

>>518847442 (OP)
Millennial Reign of Christ, Revelation 20. The glorified saints or perhaps Christ himself, built these things. The timeline you’ve been taught is wrong and provably false. You’re living in Satan’s little season from Rev 20. Hence why everything is so fake gay and retarded. Secret societies with ‘elite’ satanic families run the world. Our economy runs on funny money that isn’t backed. Medical scene poisons you. Science is wrong. Space is fake, it’s the waters above. Nearly every major prominent figure through history is a Freemason. Find Christ, repent, as He is literally the only truth of this world. And He is your only escape from what awaits these satanic midwits. Off to work anon, got questions, read about Satan’s little season theory, crazy how it answers everything.

>>518861160
90% of land owner
10% tax
Better numbers than the EU

>>518857964
>>518858263
>>518858963
You argue like a sassy woman, what tremendous faggot energy. Even if anything you say is right it's impossible to take you seriously
>antisemites are truly the dumbest fuckers on the planet kek
You should move to israel

>>518859657
>Aliens built them?
Yes. The greys.
Watch Dark city , there is interesting line there:
"We fashioned this city on the stolen memories. Different eras different paths all rolled Into one"

This could explain tor example the lack of bathrooms in these buildings.

>>518858122
Who gives a fuck about your book? Amish people live a pre-industrial lifestyle. They do not have 70% leisure time.

>>518859999
Ancient Aliens built Pyramids to use them as pylons gathering energy from ley lines to power their interstellar ships.
After conquering Egypt, Romans read some very interesting knowledge kept secret until then, which allowed them to build advanced (for the time) works of art.
Cathedrals were just founded by the king who gave money for its construction, while the labourers came from all over Europe, depending on who they needed. It was a good paying work for those skilled.

>>518847442 (OP)
Lots of cheap peasant labor

>>518847912
>They donated their work to the Church
The masons guilds were paid handsomely to build these.

>>518847442 (OP)
time and money. pay us more and give us more time you dumb fucks

t architect

>>518865344
>he thinks medieval peasants were cheaper than current wageslaves.
shiggydiggy

>>518861160
>They still had to feed the animals. They still had to milk the cows. They still had to clean after the animals. They still had to chop the firewood.
Anon if you'd ever lived on a station for any period of time you'd know winter chores aint shit, and that's when you're dealing with a modern industrial number of cattle.
The amount of animals a medieval peasant cared for personal would be exceptionally low, feeding them in the winter is a five minute job - you're not fucking MILKING in the winter because the cows aren't in calf and there's no grass so the hay is being rationed.
So with no milk, you're not making butter either. Household repairs aren't that extensive, because the houses are small (easier to heat) and either fieldstone or wattle and daub which generally just means slapping some lime, clay or mud on it to fix holes, excepting the thatch, which you've DEFINITELY done well before winter.
Repairing clothing isn't all that difficult, and you're sure to have thread aplenty since the womenfolk are dropping spindle whenever they've got the time.
Frankly you have a retarded, revisionist idea of how difficult farm life is based on modern standards which just don't apply in the era of 'close enough'.
The only job there that really sucks hard in the winter is mucking the barn.
Corvee labor was rarely anywhere near 100 days, and was more often than not carried out at the same time as regular labor, since it solely consisted of working the rows assigned to the manor rather than your own, and yes, there were significantly less work days, January and December alone each have more than HALF A MONTH of obligate Holy Days.

>>518865344
guild craftsmen were peasants in name only, like successful merchants

>>518847442 (OP)
It took hundreds of years and was done by poor people
They were more patient and visionary back then
Its not possible under globohomo and NAFO today

>>518866059
>guild craftsmen were peasants in name only
They weren't peasants at all, legally speaking if you lived in a city and worked a trade you were not a peasant.
Technically speaking in medieval England if you as a peasant fucked off from the land to which you were bound and were not dragged back for 366 days, you became a free man like city folk.

>>518848455
they had about half the year off, kike shill. we have to work constantly and be driven to madness because of kikes

>>518850163
>Medieval peasants worked less than half of the year full-time. The entirety of winter was more or less just light chores and handicrafts because you can't fuckin' farm in winter.
>Sundays were mandated rest days, Saturdays were frequently half-days, all major holy days (Epiphany, Candlemas, Annunciation, Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, Pentecost, Easter, Christmas, etc) were mandatory rest days, as well as a pretty big chunk of saint's feast days being either full or half rest days (This particular type of observance varied significantly by region) - and there are a LOT of saint's feast days.
Luther kind of ruined all that, he considered holidays wasted days and Christmas an excuse for license.

>>518866256
Luther ruined a lot of things, and I imagine he's probably being tortured in hell with shit like picrel in recompense.