Thread 518855889

Why are porn addicts so insufferable? They remind me of pothead. Porn is OBVIOUSLY bad for you, but if anyone suggests limiting porn in ANY WAY, even just requiring an ID like we already do for alcohol, tobacco, gambling, and guns, they FREAK THE FUCK OUT.
Its not censorship to require an ID, its not illegal, its not banned.
Its not infeasible to required ID, we already do it.
Corporations should be held accountable for predatory practices, we already know about this with cigs and still fighting vapes.
Stop strawmanning with religion, non-religious people can clearly see the detriments of porn.
Its not a slippery slope, we've literally had ID checks for dozens of things, even flying on a plane, or driving a car, getting a loan or other things already mentioned.
You should have to prove you are an adult when accessing drugs.
What the fuck is wrong with these people? Why do they lose 100 IQ points the moment they think about porn? They just fucking lie like a leftist defending gays or trannies.
This isn't a left and right issue, its good and evil. Its so fucking tiresome, such pieces of shit.

>>518855889 (OP)
pornosexuality is a real thing . They are terrified of ID4porn not because it will effect the users access - but because they will have to update their cultural OS into admitting they've been a hardcore user for most of their life

>>518855889 (OP)
Loicense was needed for taxi drivers in NYC. Adding it as a requirement for the rest of the country was a greedy Jewish trick to steal more tax dollars from us. Jews really do lie as easy as we breathe. They truly are soulless vermin

>>518855982
reminds me of women who support abortion, they trap themselves because admitting they were wrong makes them a murderer. So obviously they will defend it until they die.

we know that ID4porn, actual age vertification, is going to be waponized to end free speech on the internet. Almost like (((they))) caused a problem and then sold us a solution

I wonder what the sexual culture of ancient rome was really like. Was their empire powered by people gooning to aphrodite in temples and bathhouses?

>>518855889 (OP)
>Its not a slippery slope
How many times have we heard that before?
>I'm sure THIS time that we give them an inch they won't take a mile
Call me cynical but I have no confidence in that.

>>518855889 (OP)
The screeching retards may as well be presumed to be jeets.
If they are demonstrably not jeets, the insult is even worse.

>>518856042
Typical jew spreading false claims of a fallen empire. Just like Russians got stuck with drunk label for jews spamming alcohol distilleries. Or germans getting stuck with degen sex pests stigma when it was literally kikes who owned and pushed brothel normalization.

>>518856042
>is going to be waponized to end free speech on the internet
No its not retard. You already provide ID for dozens of things online that I already listed. Youre literally just lying.

>>518856044
>alcohol, tobacco, nicotine, gamlbing, driving, flying, opening a bank account, geting a loan, registering to vote, going to the doctor, buying prescription drugs all require and ID
>UM ACTUALLY YOU CANT REQUIRE ID FOR PORN BECAUSE ITS LITERALLY THE END OF FREEDOM???????

See, the real reason is that I dream of a woman who will be both loving and reasonable, but I've lost all hope that a human female could be both. Which is why I gravitate to anthros, not even sexually. Plus they're cute.

>>518856029
I'm pretty sure women who support legal abortion just want to be able to terminate a completely non-viable ectopic pregnancy without the doctors, who already fucking know it's non-viable because they're doctors, needing to go consult the hospital lawyers and ensuring they're fully complying with some shit law that was written by retards who had zero chance of getting into medical school (like you). Don't be a complete coward your entire life, faggot moron.

>>518855889 (OP)
>Why do they lose 100 IQ points the moment they think about porn?
It's a scientifically proven fact that sexual arousal inhibits reason and decision-making, so by inducing it artificially via porn you're essentially making yourself retarded.
That being said, the situation in my country is proof that ID laws are 100% a slippery slope designed to suppress political opinions. Either ban porn completely or keep it fully legal, fuck off with the ID shit.

>>518856192
Do you think it'll stop with porn?
>We pinkie that this time it won't go any further, we won't ever require ID for any Internet activities that aren't pornographic
>And yet, I'm seeing a lot of publications about the harmful psychological affects of social media...
>Look, some teenage girls killed themselves
>Surely it won't be so bad if we require ID for just this one additional thing, nothing else though we swear
How do you keep on falling for this?

Another argument
>But its the parents job! if they can't stop porn its their fault!!!
They are basically admitting their parents are failures because now they are defending porn access to children. Its actually insane.

Then they simutaneously say "the government can't do it so it will just go underground!!!" (even though its not even banned). And how the fuck is a parent supposed to stop this situation with their kid if corporations and governments can't stop it?

Which is it? Is it an unstoppable force that no one can hold back, or something so simple to keep away that a parent can easily do it?

>>518855889 (OP)
>Porn is OBVIOUSLY bad for you
No
>Its not censorship to require an ID, its not illegal, its not banned.
Requiring identity to access information is tracking and censorship.
You can't ask the government to take your ID for reading certain books

>>518856326
All of the things Ive listed have been using IDs for longer than you were alive. So yes, it does stop. It stops because people say it stops there. Its not a fucking on/off switch. Fucking idiot.

>>518856291
>um we need free abortions for any reason because there is a 0.001% medical problem!
>actually abortion statistics show that over 90% of abortions are just because they felt like it
>Just ignore that laws can have self-preservation options for the rare circumstance it can actually be fatal

>>518856382
Look at yourself; you're advocating for IDs for additional things right now. You're proof that it never stops.
You say there's no slippery slope but most of /pol/ is wise to this.

>>518856346
>No
Yes. Its blindingly obviously bad.

>>518856464
>heh, actually it is a slippery slope because requiring IDs for more things than what we have no means it never stops!
You're just saying that nothing should have IDs because if we allow any IDs then everything will eventually have IDs. You're just retarded. Different things require different examination.
You can ride a bike without an ID, but when you use a car, you do need an ID. Why don't we need IDs for bikes? Because we determined that you don't. Why did we decide you need a license to drive? Because people agreed that there should be basic controls when operating a dangerous device.
Same with drugs, we decided some drugs can be over the counter, and some drugs require IDs.
Its such a basic concept that you're purposeful misunderstand reveals you're pathetic intellect.

>>518856711
>You're just saying that nothing should have IDs
This is an actually fallacious example of a slippery slope, as well as a strawman.
Regardless, you shouldn't trust your government as much as you do.

>>518856933
I dotn trust the government, but I also don't trust predatory corporations. There should be a mechanism of accountability. There used to be ads for cigs for children, now we have ads for gambling and porn, and we are pretending like this is fine.

>>518857044
You do trust your government to not extend the same reasoning they employ to require IDs for porn to require IDs for basic Internet access.

>>518857190
Thats why we fucking vote, idiot. Its like you purposefully misunderstand things that are obvious in order to keep running from an indefensible position. I've provided multiple examples and you have only provided pure speculation and feelings. You are literally an addict defending your drug.

>>518855889 (OP)
I don't care to partake in a porn debate, I'm just here to post Renamon.

>>518856711
There is a difference between normal and digital ID. For example, when you buy alcohol from a shop at the moment, the cashier simply just looks at your card and then sells it to you. But with a digital ID he will scan it, then the information will be entered into a database, and now the government knows where you were, what you bought and at what time.

>>518857352
Unlike most on /pol/ I won't claim that voting is totally useless, but I will say that it's much less useful than you imply, especially since people like you are very susceptible to propaganda to make them vote for things they really shouldn't.

>>518855889 (OP)
>Go a month looking at anything lewd or touching myself
>Nothing about my life improves

>>518855889 (OP)
>Go a month without looking at anything lewd or touching myself
>Nothing about my life improves

>>518857507
>its propaganda to want age verification on accessing dangerous and harmful content
I dont think 9 year olds should drive cars, drink alcohol, smoke, or do take opiates. Or access porn.
You can access it, just show your existing ID you already have, like you do to drive and buy alcohol.
Wow, so crazy, so propaganda!
All you do is retreat to you're next rhetorical trick without ever actually defending why porn isn't bad, why limiting access is harmful beyond pure speculation.

>>518857502
Im not advocating for digital ID. I'm advocating that corporations need to prove they are actually legitimately checking ages, which can be done in many existing ways. Just like banks, credit cards, ordering things online already do this. We don't need anything new, we just need to hold corporations accountable.

>just give your ID online to people, it definitely won't get stolen and used to fake identities
>Discord just got hacked and leaked 100 000 government IDs
I'm starting to believe all this porn ban talk is instigated by jeet scammers to make their scamming easier. That and to make it easier for jews to gather blackmail

>>518857733
I don't care if porn is good or bad. That's entirely irrelevant to my point, which is why I haven't talked about it.
This anon >>518856312 actually agrees with you that porn is bad, and yet he agrees with me that the ID requirement is bad.

>>518857853
You already give that stuff out to everyone else. Why does porn get an exception?
Also, the Discord hack and UK ID are a product of incompetence and bad policy. The UK government is pushing digital ID for obviously nefarious purposes, so of course they don't care because the purpose is not to help anyone but the government.

>>518858005
I in fact don't give copies of my ID out to everyone. It's only ever requested of me to be shown physically in real life.
>The uk is incompetent, but we'll never be hacked
>Meanwhile the Pentagon gets hacked all the time
>But don't worry, the porn sites will have state of the art cyber security

>>518858221
>porn sites are the government now
These sites already know who you are, they just pretend not to, and there are no laws holding them accountable for it. They KNOW for a FACT children are using their site and PURPOSEFULLY do nothing. And you are DEFENDING THEM.
Why don't you offer a solution to corporate bad actors? You are offering nothing besides panic and speculation.

>>518858498
Who is the "they" that know who I am? Which of "these sites" is it you schizo? Are you talking about porn or Facebook?
Also I don't give a fuck about your children. You should take care of them instead of thinking about them when discussing porn.
But yes, social media platforms should be banned from selling personal information, not that this has anything to do with the discussion.

>>518858827
Porn sites know they have children on them, and they get them there on purpose. This is bad and should stop.

>>518855889 (OP)
>>518857418
based fellow aryan fox enjoyers. the impmon (jew) fears the foxwife

>>518858882
Then control your child you idiot.
>But w-what about some single mother niggerino
I don't care

>>518857817
So how do you suggest that we limit digital information via non-digital means? It's also worth noting that whether or not a website is a "porn site" isn't as black and white as most people think. Plenty of sites host porn despite it not being the main focus, like the one we're posting on right now. Would you want the posts you make here associated with your real identity?

>>518857682
I went 2 years of doing this plus 3 years of being vegan just to see if it actually did anything. Neither did anything, being vegan made my poop smell worse and I felt short-tempered and brainfogged sometimes. No-fap for 2 years did help me focus my time on other things more efficiently for a while but I think it was just a break in habit causing me to do that, because eventually I went back to doing everything I was doing before just without masturbating. Anyway, we should remove all jews from the US and anyone who ever supported them being here should face extreme prejudice.

>>518859009
>how?
Like its done when you buy/access anything else online that requires verification like banks or online shops??? Like entering a drivers license number, or a credit card, or other proof. You've probably done it before.
>site is called pornhub
>it sells porn
>um guys how do we know which places are porn sites????
You know what is, I know what it is. So why pretend like we don't?

>>518859231
Porn is free you retard, and unless you're a zoomer you'd know "buying porn" is the most common type of scam online, which is why most banks and payments processors won't even let you.
>um guys how do we know which places are porn sites????
Are you just trolling at this point? Sites like Twitter are the primary host for porn these days.

>glowniggers wanting more ID measures
Shocking

>>518859231
>Like entering a drivers license number, or a credit card, or other proof.
Those are all digital means.
>You know what is, I know what it is. So why pretend like we don't?
It also just happens that almost all of the major social media sites and forums that allow you to post anonymously (Twitter, Reddit, Discord, 4chan etc.) allow porn. If you or the government you love so much really cared about the ill effects of porn they would just ban it entirely. That way you remove the problem while maintaining internet anonimity, but instead they advocate a policy that would associate the majority of internet posts with an ID. It's almost like they don't actually give a shit about your children and actually just want to regulate opinion.

>>518856480
Prove it nigger

>>518859572
>Those are all digital means.
so then we already have "digital id"? then what are you complaining about?

>>518859510
>still pretending like you don't know what a porn site is

>>518855889 (OP)
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>>518856382
I say no to globohomo digital ID, kill all glowniggers, tribunal and hang them after full legal proceedings for their Smith-Mundt Modernization Act crimes

>>518855889 (OP)
Porn is bad
Digital ID is bad
Two wrongs don't make a right, nigger.

>>518859606
Yes. Thats my position. Glad we agree.

>>518856192
>>518856154
if the major sites are ID locked and hypnotube isn't than i think there is more going on here than 'protecting muh children'

>>518859597
>so then we already have "digital id"?
Yes, but we don't need it to access the internet as a whole (yet).
I'm convinced that you're purposely being disingenuous at this point, which is why you never answered my question:
>Would you want the posts you make here associated with your real identity?

>>518855889 (OP)
>Its not censorship to require an ID, its not illegal, its not banned.
>Its not infeasible to required ID, we already do it.
fuck off glownigger
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