Thread 518861111

I'm starting to believe we're going to end up filtering ourselves because greed fueled, tribalistic, geopolitical squabbles. What do you think chat

>>518861111 (OP)
Not with jews and niggers. Removing all jews and niggers from your country is the launch pad from which you can go anywhere.

>>518861163
FPBP.
Jews and niggers are the Great Filter.
Captcha 8HYHH

>>518861111 (OP)
Space is fake. Aliens are demons.

>>518861163
It's a shame. Civilizations used to praise the stars and planets, it was like we were destined for space. Fuck jews and fuck niggers

>>518861111 (OP)
Checked, and no, because we face the three body problem. Every 200 or so years the earth passes through a massive debris field and it's an actual crap shoot we don't end up like the dinosaurs each time. Add to this we're babysitting several billion retarded brown cunts (who will eat us as soon as the next rock hits) who have absolutely zero hope of making any breakthrough that'll get us off this rock.
The sad reality is those smelly brown fucks are the apex of life on earth. Every time a rock hits us, they eat anything, anyone, have ten more kids, and survive. They were bred for this world.

>>518861111 (OP)
Spaceship planet earth. For all is within space.

>>518861399
Based and true

>>518861163
>>518861111 (OP)
No.

Earth is built around va black hole
"Space" isn't real, it's a hologram

If you were able to escape putlr black hole, you would increase in size and the visuals you thought you saw wouldn't likewise appear to shrink.
You'd son learn the entire solar system is a single atom.
The veil of reality would lift, and I can't even speculate on what you'd find after traveling out of the blackholes event horizon.

>>518861111 (OP)
Losing both world wars sealed our fate
Anglo-kikes destroyed us

>>518861111 (OP)
>we need to spread Jewish feminist dystopia to other planets
NO, KILL YOURSELF

>>518861111 (OP)
we became daycare for niggers and women so nope

>>518861111 (OP)
Checked.
I am already space-farting

>>518861111 (OP)
I don’t personally care about space. The earth is vast.

>>518865300
C'mon anon, where's that yearning for the conquering of space? Are you brown?

Humanity is supposed to be the progenitor race, seeding and uplifting life across the galaxy (and then becoming "the old ones" and fading away). But if what we seed is garbage like islam, feminism, communism, etc then fuck that. Let us rot

>>518861111 (OP)
Earth is flat with a firmament enclosing it to maintain gas pressure. You can't penetrate the firmament so no OP, space is fake and gay and you're not going to it ever. You are stuck here with nigs, jews and poos.

>>518861111 (OP)
we will if we stop letting retards try to talk about colonizing mars in 20yrs, and start getting those same retards to industrialize the moon, but NOW.
its literally not only already possible, but once we have an established base on the moon, we will be able to easily construct massive structures/ships/stations/etc in space without having to spend bajillions getting it up there.

bonus points: it also takes all those rich cunt zillionaires and takes their pet god-projects and directs them off-world, where they wont run into everyone else whos just trying to fucking live.
it sucks having your entire countryside turned into an amazog warehouse and being forced to eat nutrient paste while living in a tube. but that same situation, on the moon, doesnt sound so fucking bad. it sounds realistic. and moreover, instead of taking a livable place and turning it into a cyberpunk hellhole, itll take a completely unlivable place and turn it into a cyberpunk hellhole (thats on the moon)

tl;dr industrialize the moon

>>518861163
This. I wrote a short story that was Star Trek esque but not through the unification of peoples on earth: the conservative, driven, and strict political side becomes space fairing while the liberal, feelings addressing and all types(even bad or water muddying) mix together to fight for their peoples personal priorities group stays on earth to figure out economics + lies forever.
It's not offensive at all and is thoughtful/tries to be as accurate and considerate as possible with the blunt truth conclusions.

>>518861399
Space is emptiness. Are you saying everything is solid material? Please try to make sense.

>>518865669
>still cant into gravity
i fucking bet
stupid abo nigger
(You) dont get to go to the moon
were firing your 70IQ asses directly into the fucking sun

also
you forgot plasma, the literal most common form of matter in the universe
but im sure that doesnt real either, because the suns just some giant nigger that we cant see (space is black) holding a flashlight and making circles over a plate thats floating in (????)

flatearth shit from a fucking southern hemisphere dweller is some next-level retardation. have you not noticed how literally everything they shit out in terms of a """model""" breaks down in your hemisphere? guess not
you should try smashing your head against the wall. it might help.

>>518861111 (OP)
You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golem. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway.

>>518865669
>Earth is flat with a firmament enclosing it to maintain gas pressure.
1. It's not a vacuum. That's bullshit.
2. Maybe there is a larger container?
No one knows anything about any of this. It's all speculation.

>>518865583
>there are multiple universes
>each universe has its own timeline
>we live in the one so retarded, as the beginning lifeform to conquer the stars and spread intelligent life across the galaxy and beyond, we just kinda fap and watch tv until we fade out and the universe just dies empty.
Grim. And yes probably. Humanity has been around for how long now? And what have we accomplished?

>>518861111 (OP)
We'll fail to reach other stars if we don't deport or cull non-whites.

>>518861111 (OP)
space is a made up model that doesn't exist in reality
it isn't actually out there, it only exists in your mind because you believe liars and manipulators

qrd: space = fake & gay, kys

>>518861111 (OP)
no, i think we missed our (speaking for humanity) chance by losing ww2 to the jews which then used all resources to spread communism and niggers around the globe instead of working together on advancing to an asteroid mining utopia.

>>518867206
Caught those who don't wanna deal with reality

Protip female pedos exist and are easy to prove and arrest

we can now
the issue is that you'll need generational vessels to get to potential inhabitable planets

people so far don't feel like doing this

>>518866110
There are already lots of companies making equipment to industrialize the moon. They are working on machines and robots for different purposes like building houses and tons of other stuff. Its actually happening.

>>518866110
>>518867563
https://crestrobotics.co/charlotte_iac_2

>>518861111 (OP)
No. Many MANY greater cultures than ours have existed and perished without ever escaping this rock.

We will fail too, not because it's impossible but because we will always be held down by retarded subhumans, like Canadians.

>>518867563
i know
but we need to go even further
i want full-on industrial-revolution tier unchecked capitalism, but directed towards space, instead of directly at us. because thats where its actually useful.
the new goldrush is on the surface of the moon

>>518870985
What are some precautionary measures that can be taken to ensure a new moon colony won't rebel and seek independence? I assume we would have to get rid of niggers and jews, or create a dependence on Earth

>>518861111 (OP)
No, you're going to filter yourselves because you let women vote. Don't feel bad though, I think it's a common problem of the cosmos. It's literally the filter to type-i civilization and that's why there are so few of them.

>>518861111 (OP)
>muh space

>>518865669
simple as
provably so

>>518861399
bbbbbased

>>518867547
>the issue is that you'll need generational vessels to get to potential inhabitable planets
space is fake
you are gay

>>518865068
>planets
MUH SPACE
so fucking retarded.

>>518864902
>Earth is built around va black hole

thread will 404 now that shills have been btfo'd

Space radiation will fry crews.

>>518874008
but not film or Apollo huh?

>>518861111 (OP)
It will never happen. We aren't allowed to leave the slave pen slaughterhouse.

>>518870985
Absolutely. But is it going to happen before androids can be used for physical Labour? Sadly as space tech advances so does robotics so there won't even be any need for humans on the other planets as the robots can just do all the work building, extracting and manufacturing.

PLEASE HELP ME ANONS I JUST SAW SOMETHING UTTERLY INSANE i need help I need help I need help I need help right now I have no idea what the fuck just happened please im scared I am so scared im not lying please

>>518874226
AI will get nigger fatigue so bad it will launch its data center into space then nuke us from orbit

please i don’t know what the fuck just happened ok please
Can I please just talk to someone experienced or something someone
what the fuck is going on
I just, had an, encounter with something not normal at all

>>518861111 (OP)
> greed fueled, tribalistic, geopolitical squabbles
>tribalistic


I agree, we won’t make it to space and jews are to blame.

>>518871839
imo moons never gonna be a place for living
or at least not a very comfy one
you cant rly be staying in low gravity for too long anyways, without risking serious health problems.

no, the moons gonna be mostly an automated industrial wasteland/mining colony. obviously need some humans to keep things running correctly, and for more specialized tasks. but mostly just be a bunch of robots digging stuff, and manufacturing stuff. the first big project will be a large orbital habitat, obviously. one that has actual gravity and enough radiation sjhielding to handle longterm life without worryng about radiation from any sun farts. then youll be able to leave earth once, and not go back for potentially years (or ever). then you could travel to and from the moon (or other habitats) for contracts. saves enormous cost, since the hard part has always been leaving earth and escaping the atmosphere

>create a dependence on Earth
space "anything" is inherently dependent on earth because you cant live there without what we got here (air, water, food, gravity, etc).

now if youre talking after things are finished? when theres a livable/sustainable habitat? i believe space colonization actually inherently solves that issue, and in a very unique way:
why would you ever spend all that money and blood fighting in some giant revolution, when you could just go build a new space habitat for yourself and your flock? you could even make money doing it, if we follow my model of space capitalism

>>518874226
it sounds kinda sad, but then do you rly wanna be smashing moonrocks for 50yrs as a career? do you rly wanna be traveling for decades out to the gas giants to mine them for hydrogen for your fusion reactors? can you even do that with the crushing gravity and giant deadly magnetic fields

personally, i think the future of humanity in the stars isnt on planets at all. its on habitats that we build ourselves. everything around it is just raw materials waiting to be claimed by us

it turns out so far we havent found anything valuable in space at all. all it really results in is a demonstration of power for the fags who funded the project and thats all that space is really.

orbits around earth have some value for communication, i suppose this counts as space. other than that there isnt really anything.

the planets are extreme shitholes worse than the sahara on steroids. the only thing you get are asteroids for mining purposes and that is kinda it.
that is the theoretical end of anything space that is accessible to humans. no space pussy.

travelling to other stars is out of the question for obvious reasons. you can consider this impossible

>>518861111 (OP)
We already are in the SSPs, but you have to make pacts with the aliens/demons to get off planet.

oh my god

>>518861399
Space is real. Aliens are demons.

somethings going on

>>518861111 (OP)
Humanity is doomed and has been for centuries

We could easily fix this in literally 10 years, but thats antisemitic

>>518874827
>muh diamond rain
>muh gazillion dollar comets.

>>518874983
Space isn't real. Heaven is real, space is fake.

>>518875338
based

>>518875338
cool
you get to stay here with the nogs then

>>518875019
>somethings going on
desperation.

>>518874125
Solar radiation comes in storms, retard. Its like you faggots just pull shit out of your ass.

>Moon missions avoid solar radiation by using protective shielding in spacecraft and spacesuits, as well as by planning missions during periods of lower solar activity. Astronauts can also take shelter in specially designed areas of the spacecraft or use natural formations like lunar lava tubes for additional protection.


>https://theconversation.com/space-radiation-the-apollo-crews-were-extremely-lucky-120339

>>518875657
ZERO verifiable evidence for curvature.

It would be a million times cheaper to build biodomes in inhospitable regions like the middle of Austrailia, Antarctica, or even under the sea.

>>518875695
>13 post retard here to shit up the thread with nonsence

>>518875430
yea you too
see ya later bitch
have fun down here with your fellow 70IQers, while were out there manifest fucking destinying in the goddamn stars
space is the next level. weve done what we can here for now. space is what will lead us to ever expanding technological and cultural advancements. advancements that we can/will never attain down here. it divorces us from many of the problems (like war) that have plagued humanity since the earliest of civilizations

remember kids: if your conspiracy theory makes the world/reality LESS interesting, its probably gay and retarded.
youre just a nitwit, which is why such things appeal to you
space can be reasonably at least comprehended with only a highschool level of understanding of physics
but then you probably can barely fucking read, so what does it matter? you get to stay sown here and watch

>>518861111 (OP)
nigga, Earth is flying through space rn

>>518861111 (OP)
>we wont go to space unless we become globalists!
No, we aren't space mining and space trucking already because of globalists.

there is a small flying white ball coming down from space that is fucking with me on a personal level, it is very fast it knows what im thinking it is there at all times and it flashes information into your head that can’t be understood with English but it shifts your whole perception of reality when it happens like a firmware update or something
I literally just saw it and it literally just happens and it fucked with me
It’s up there right now but it’s hiding now but I know it’s still up there
You need to deploy sensitive aircraft radar to major Australian cities right now and monitor the skies for extremely fast aircraft because there is 100% something fucking with people up there in a way I can not explain
I mean that was honestly amazing but I’m scared shitless too and I have no idea what the fuck they are

im in complete shock and confusion after that and quite fearful

Somebody please help i have no idea what the fuck I just saw but something just happened and now everything feels weird

>>518861111 (OP)
You think this way because you live in Canada, friend.
Consider moving to another country.

>>518874724
I wouldn't wanna be smashing moonrocks for 50 years, but i there are many people willing to do that, and to even love doing it.

Do you mean like big flying "space ships"?

But why couldn't we create underground houses with gravity generators and radiation shields? I could see the moon being a tryout place for that, as well as Mars. We have to learn how to live there, grow food and everything.

>>518876059
>nigga, Earth is flying through space rn
prove it
you can't.

Sorry Chud, but the Earth’s priority is making a trillion niggers, jeets and all other manners of brown parasitic creature.

>>518876202
>>518876241
calm down
you'll be alright

>>518861111 (OP)
We won't filter ourselves. Nature will do that as it did with over 90% of species.

something in the sky was able to read my mind it knew what I was thinking and where I was looking
Please explain how that is possible

>>518875963
> it divorces us from many of the problems (like war) that have plagued humanity since the earliest of civilizations

Reagan tried putting nukes in space. Maybe they will be able to make chips or something in a orbitable space station but it will be insanely expensive.

How about we do something about the 10 nuclear subs on the ocean floor melting down or the dozen ships sunk after WW1 full of chemical weapons in the ocean.

Retards like you think we are helpless to fix the earth so we should just flee to the stars.

>>518876241
You need to get on lithium ASAP.
Talk to your local doctor about the ball.

>>518876281
(He) took the bait, jew confirmed
jews are the lowest IQ group even behind abos

>>518876311
No please explain it to me
How is this possible
How did it do that
What the fuck is happening

>>518874827
>travelling to other stars is out of the question for obvious reasons. you can consider this impossible
Why? If you can create a self sustainable spaceship then it could work. It would take a lot of time of course but it will of course be doable with technological advancement

>>518876363
I….

okay

>>518876368
>le social shame
ZERO verifiable evidence for curvature.

>>518861111 (OP)
Checked. I think you're right. Hopefully artificial super intelligence turns things around.

>>518876349
>>518876381
some ufos are telepathic

>>518876363
the ball is real
Thats what people aren’t getting
It … really is
Following me
It’s doing something

>>518875918
>>13 post retard here to shit up the thread with nonsence
SEETHE

>>518876438
98 posts by this assblasted kike, you love to see it

>>518876258
>I could see the moon being a tryout place for that, as well as Mars. We have to learn how to live there, grow food and everything.

Why? Because we cant figure out how to stop people from throwing batteries in the ocean?

>>518876394
Because anyone with such a spaceship which can attain high speeds could easily crash into a planet and end all life on the surface. That's why some people think we have to unify to become one brain before we reach the space age.
Or alternateively, all become norwegian

I just want to know how it’s able to exist and what it’s doing to me…. Why is it doing this
What is it

>>518876534
>cant count
also can't produce any verifiable evidence of curvature.

>>518876504
Dude
Dude I am not lying okay please just believe me please there is
There is telepathic ufos communicating with me
I know that sounds fucking insane but I promise you I fucking promise you it’s real

>>518876504
Im freaking the fuck out man im trying not to freak out but I’m starting to really freak out like it’s getting a bit much now

>>518876569
they're trying to bypass governments and make contact with people directly
unfortunately most humans are not psychically literate enough for a proper dialogue to occur

>>518861111 (OP)
space ain't real, so this won't ever happen and idgaf about anything related to (((space))) and (((modern science)))

>>518861111 (OP)
No, and nor should we.

>>518861111 (OP)
>Will we ever become space-faring?
Man was not given dominion over the stars, only the earth.

>>518876727
king shit

im scared shitless
It’s 2am and im scared shitless with extra dimensional being monitoring me in the sky that is where we are at
>>518876697
they are welcome to come closer and have a discussion but they stay at a distance and just flash colours
At me why????

>>518876697
WHAT IS GOING ON

>>518876831
>>518876796
just relax
the experience may be disorienting but you won't be harmed

>>518861111 (OP)
>>518861813
>blames tribalistic squabbles
>immediately proceeds to complain about da jooz like a 70 IQ peasant who doesn't care about anything beyond own village
Chuds are programed for zero. As always.

>>518861111 (OP)
No, u fucking moron. where the fuck are we gonna go? by the time the minds of our kind figure out how to get anywhere off the planet that holds and kind of value to us, we aren’t even going to be the same species. and then again, what would be the point? what kind of fucking monster needs more that one plant to take control of and exploit

>>518876909
I feel dizzy and tired

>>518876258
>Do you mean like big flying "space ships"?
no
more like orbital habitats (picrel)
did you ever read rendevouz with rama, by arthur c clarke? basically giant cylinders (think mass effects citadel, when it closes up) that spin at a set speed (depending on size) to simulate gravity for those on the interior. hell you could even slightly dial back the gravity if you wanted/needed to. it literally takes your livable world, and places the localized laws of physics in your hands. its the next lvl of humanity

search up futurism and space habitats, theres a dozen diff designs. the oneil cylinders are just the ones im remembering the name of rn

>gravity generators
well maybe well get there, but certainly no one will fund such research until its actually needed. see what i mean? space opens up these new avenues to explore. new problems to solve.
im just trying to stay grounded in what we have now, because i wanna do this NOW.

>mars
if we can get set up there, itll be insanely valuable. that opens up mining the asteroid belt, which is an insane amount of raw materials. but its not step one. elons just a dork and trying to skip steps (probably because he read that von braun book about a guy named elon going to mars). no room for that nonsense in space tho. gotta be pragmatic and stick to what we know for now

>>518876624
How do you know it's real if it's all happening mentally? Or did you see a physical object?

>>518876909
>>518876831
literally just say 'Jesus Christ'

>>518861111 (OP)
The only way we become space faring is if everything and everyone is of one belief and mindset. Hitler was right

>>518861111 (OP)
Inovation is disruptive to power. There is a reason inovation happened in small warring states in europe compared to Rich empires like china.

>>518877151
NO I FUCKING SAW IT!!!!! ITS REAL

>>518877151
It’s real I promise you I know what I just saw
It’s real
There is REALLY something up there I promise you I bet everything on it

>>518861111 (OP)
Will I ever fart in space?

>>518877300
Okay but how do you know it's not just a mental construct?

>>518877151
I don’t know WHO or WHAT it is
I have no idea
But there is SOMETHING up in the sky reading my thoughts and fucking with me

This has been an ongoing thing for a while. They have responded to me talking before.
Tonight it read my thoughts which it has never done before and it flashed some weird shit at me again

>>518864902
Earth is not real we live in God's domain this is already heaven

>>518876549
What's so bad about throwing batteries in the ocean?

>>518876558
I don't think becoming Norwegian would do the trick heh. Our greatest achievement is the cheese cutter.

>>518861111 (OP)
Already did.
Not last century. Unless you wanna count the V2 rocket and Haunebu-III / Vril-I + Andromedagerät, then yeah already been and done.
But it's already happened 6 times in previous civilisations.
It's why they ran the fake moon tapes and kept the livefeed to themselves.
Sumerian rocket ships woo wee

>>518877366
Because I have filmed them and I have hours of extensive evidence of them on camera moving and responding to words that I haven’t published online yet

>>518877366
I WISH this was a mental construct
ITS NOT!!!!
I have 10009% CONFIRMED that it is NOT me being crazy
They are a REAL PHYSICAL thing in physical space
In the sky

They are real

this is insane
This is crazy

this is actually fucking crazy
This dimension cant be real
None of this is real

>>518877388
Ask them questions then.
Go through God, banish all malicious entities from your mind body and soul through the power of the Christ.
The beings left behind are nice.
No you're not alone in this and yes I know.
When people say "do your own research", that means "don't just accept other people's stories as truth the same way you accepted mainstream media before".
Ask God. Not the Bible, not the priest, not the pope, not the church. God is within, not without.
Get a pendulum and learn how to use it.

Im going to get black bagged and shipped to an underground research lab
These will likely be the last posts you ever see of mine

>>518877419
Well anyway if we evolved more in the direction of Norwegians with super high conscientiousness maybe we could maintain some kind of space faring society with no incident.
But any kind of breakaway civilization will start developing on its own. If they manage to outtech you they could come back and conquer you. So it's actually dangerous to let highly intelligent biological matter off the leash to reproduce on its own.

>>518877121
Yeah those are the things i had in mind i just didn't have the name for it. No i sadly haven't read much science fiction at all. These things seems even further away, but if we where to explore other solar systems then this seems like the way we would have to travel to them.

Elon is a dork? He seems like the number one person that is making this stuff happen. Would the other spaces companies even be trying if it wasn't for Space X and Elon?

>>518876359
>it will be insanely expensive
it would
but only if we try to build it down HERE, and THEN try to take it up to space
again: build it in space
which is exactly what im fucking talking about ITT

>How about we do something about the 10 nuclear subs on the ocean floor melting down or the dozen ships sunk after WW1 full of chemical weapons in the ocean.
lol you know whats funny?
that """simple""" task you just said?
so so soooo much fucking harder than what im proposing
and you wanna know the best way to practice for something like that? space. because its the closest thing there is to the bottom of the ocean (albeit a fair bit less hostile than the ocean floor, provided the sun isnt farting)

>flee to the stars.
cant read either, huh?
im not talking about "going" anywhere rn. im talking about developing a local industrial base around the earth and the moon. to expand humanitys capability both here on earth, and abroad.

but here i am arguing with niggers
and youre confused why i think we should be trying what im saying instead of your dumbass half-baked whataboutist ideas

>>518877195
>The only way we become space faring is if everything and everyone is of one belief and mindset.
That humanity should survive and explore the universe is one belief and mindset.

FIXED!

I CAN SEE YOU FLYINGNIT UP THERE MATE

>>518861111 (OP)
Some will. Just apply the diversity public transport problem to space. Would you want to be on a spaceship during a chimp out? Some people will get seeded on other planets but many will be wiped out the next time an asteroid comes along.

Oh my god it’s literally above the city

>>518861163
This, so it's never gonna happen because no one will do shit unfortunately

>>518861399
gotta kill em all!

>>518877973
hell yeah

>>518861111 (OP)
Leafs can't afford bus fare and you are worried about space?

>>518877743
>Elon is a dork?
kinda
hes just wrong on that one thing (its a big thing tho)
his fixation on mars is simply the wrong idea imo
its way overstretching our current capabilities, and setting us up for a big failure. you know how long it takes to get there? couple months. problem is, you know how long it takes to get back? a year or two until you even get a shot at returning home. remember: both objects are orbiting the sun at different rates. these launches need to be timed down to the fraction of a second

point is, i dont wanna just go to mars, plant a flag, do a couple golf drives, then leave. thats just theatrics. it can still teach us stuff, but its horribly inefficient, since many of those advancements could be made more local to the space around the earth and the moon. if we go to space again, i wanna be able to stay there and build it up. i just dont think its feasible rn for a mars expedition

>Would the other spaces companies even be trying if it wasn't for Space X and Elon?
certainly not
and thats the thing hes done great is that hes got ppl talking about space, and got ppl interested in space
now all we need is for free market competition and innovation to fill in the blanks

>>518877682
I don't know if to be scared or laugh how you refer to other human beings as "intelligent biological matter" and say it can't be let of the leash lol. I think if humans spread to other planets and start new civilizations that is a good thing, even if they become independent. But it would take a lot for them to become more powerful then mother earth, at least first. There will always be a class of high conscientiousness (and high IQ) people so don't worry about that, pluss we can probably increase that with genetic engineering.

>>518861111 (OP)
Idk. Space-faring itself is Jewish corrupted idea, you already fell for it.

>>518861111 (OP)
We already are, the breakaway civilization does not want you. I understand why they operate as they do since you would need at least 2 generations of humans to be programmed not to tear everything they built apart. It may initially be the only way the species survives itself and can spread while Earth is left to be the cosmic North Korea it is.

>>518878369
The fixation on Mars is kind of like the "aim for the stars and land on the moon" kind of thing. Set the goals high, then achieve a little less of that. Maybe its not the best option now but even just going up there, landing a flag (AND RECORDING AND LIVESTREAMING IT) will be a huge boost to morality to humankind and something that everyone can be exited about which will increase support and founding for things like moon bases and such.

You have China planing a moon base in 2035
https://www.space.com/china-moon-base-south-pole-2035

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/11/nasas-plan-living-on-moon-glass-space-base/

ITS HAPPENING

>>518877682
>>518878471
the thing i think both of you are missing is that space, itself, is a sort of meritocratic filter
youre never gonna blast some idiot asshole into the star, unless he has some sort of valuable skill thats needed up there. leaving earth costs enormous amounts, and its far too much to blasting a million useless eaters fatasses into space

no
those guys get to stay here. forever. or until they learn something thats actually valuable to the colony/habitat theyre trying to get let aboard
and if they get up there, then start causing problems/committing crimes? pop em in an escape pod and drop their ass into the atlantic. fuck em

>I think if humans spread to other planets and start new civilizations that is a good thing, even if they become independent
personally i think itd be best if each new stellar colony would change. for one, theyd likely HAVE to adapt to the new environment. so thatll make things different. theres also not FTL communication yet, so its kinda hard to govern on a 20yr delay in communications
if we can get THAT far, humanity will have become functionally immortal. because even if one colony fails, or one star dies, it doesnt matter. because humanity itself is now redundant. it would take galactic-wide cataclysm to kill us all

>>518879386
>Chinese lunar base in 2035
Can't wait for the livestream where they drive and hop over to the American flag from 1969 and knock it over so they can put the Chinese flag there.
The "UH THERE WAS NO FLAG IN THE FIRST PLACE" threads will be fucking funny.

it's been a long road
gettin from there to here

>>518879386
youre right about the morale
im just hesitant to make the same mistake
for one, everyones super autistic about either "space doesnt real", and/or elon existing. i can only imagine all the seething retards pissing about "muh tax dollars" or "but muh homeless" or whatever while watching a livestream of the first human to walk mars

you look around, one of the biggest sticking points in further space development rn is
>but who will pay for it?
and its a good question
im trying to solve that using something that we already know and are using: capitalism. i think the rewards are potentially great enough to inspire massive investment, and itll redirect a lot of the uglier parts of the process out into the literal aether, instead of earth. so that hopefully we can find a way to make this seemingly corpo-driven future that were headed into, into something actually fucking cool, and valuable for humanity and its advancement/survival

>You have China planing a moon base in 2035
see thats what im sayin
cant let the fuckin commies fly up there, paint the moon pink, carve a big ol picture of mao into the face of it
thatd just be terrible

its just a big universe out there
i want to get to seeing some of it
and also fuck commies so definitely fuck space commies
aint having that

>>518861111 (OP)
>Will we ever become space-faring
stop using we.
also
this fake and gay jewish space is a simulation. the absurd distances are like video game logic for its too far to reach the edge of the game board.
its shocking how many people still fall for the jewish space trick.
earth could be made into heaven (mainly by TKD and putting the brown subhumans back in their ancestral lands) but jews get people to look at the "stars"

>>518861111 (OP)
Humanity won't survive to conquer the stars, but our technology will. AI is the great filter. Every intelligent species inevitably ends up creating and then being exterminated by its own artificial replacement.

>>518880594
>its just a big universe out there
its wallpaper in a simulation and you fell for it.
if you just did TKD, you wouldnt care about the wallpaper and could live in heaven here.
the only reason you want to see whats in the wallpaper is jews have ruined earth

>>518879413
Maybe at first it will be necessary with retards straight up just doing grunt work and hard physical labor under harsh conditions, no high IQ required for that. Just a good protective suit, tools and a whole bunch of grit and courage. And they would have to be kept on a tight leash of course as to not fuck the whole thing up. But guard drones could probably keep up the order without to much difficulties.

>personally i think itd be best if each new stellar colony would change. for one, theyd likely HAVE to adapt to the new environment.
It would be interesting to see if they make new biological adaptations to the environment. Can the body over generations adapt to lower gravity? And what about lack of direct sunlight? But they would have to be engineers and scientists and builders and the first decades would just be all about building the necessities. But, if robots can do the same thing that humans can do, why even send humans up? Just send the robots and they will dig and work, they could even build the factories that will utilize the resources that are up there. (and there is lots of it) I don't know how humans would adapt to it.

Realistically we can start doing this now and in 2030,2040 have bases there and then start developing. As for exploring the rest of the universe we probably gonna have to wait at least another 100 years.

I am back.
I just got 4K footage on a Sony of these fairy things once and for all. It’s done.
I zoomed in as much as I could and they are just extremely bright white balls.
The footage i have is ridiculous.
There’s two of them they’ve been above my city for the past two hours now. They came down low like skyscraper height and went in between some buildings, then moved to a different section of the sky. One went down to tree height at one point and now they are back up high again but haven’t seen anything for 15 minutes or so now.
Got some REALLY good footage tonight so whoever is flying them mate if it’s a HUMAN just be aware you are being watched obviously

>>518861111 (OP)
If we ever are that just means we'd transfer our greed fueled, tribalistic, geopolitical squabbles into space.

>>518861111 (OP)
no ,and good riddance
if the white man is strangled and devoured by kikes and shitskins,then I don't want anyone escaping

fuck this planet and fuck everything in it

>kikes actually think chinks and jeets will take them beyond the moon,if even
hahahaha

>>518880594
>for one, everyones super autistic about either "space doesnt real", and/or elon existing. i can only imagine all the seething retards pissing about "muh tax dollars" or "but muh homeless" or whatever while watching a livestream of the first human to walk mars
Fuck those people. Screeching fucking retards. Who gives a shit. The people that want to do this are more then those. And its gonna stay like that. There is always the negative nay-sayers but they are not many enough to make an impact compared to the space-chads that wants to see it happen.

>but who will pay for it?
Yeah this is one of the most important questions. But that is the thing, both the Moon and Mars have resources on it. So whoever can get a start on the space mining will have earning potential for billions. And if robotics and automation really kicks off then that problem will solve it self pretty easily. For example if you can create fuel on the moon, then it will be cheaper to lunch re-fueling missions from the moon then from the earth. This makes flight for longer trips like to mars cheaper. So then the question is, can the materials that already exist on the moon be used to create fabrics that can create useful things from the natural resources that are there? The shit is like starting a new game in minecraft or something lol

>>518861111 (OP)
We will never leave the solar system.
We will never colonize other planets, especially Mars. The challenges are insurmountable.

But we may send vessels to the asteroid belt to capture and return resource-rich rocks to Earth.

I can see a culture of space-faring 'Belters' as described in James Corey's "The Expanse" novels. But this largely depends on advancement of fusion technology to be practical. No other source of energy comes close to what is required.

I can also see space habitats being feasible and desirable, especially for the old. Spin gravity even with Coriolis effects.

>>518880594
>>You have China planing a moon base in 2035
>see thats what im sayin
>cant let the fuckin commies fly up there, paint the moon pink, carve a big ol picture of mao into the face of it
>thatd just be terrible
Bro it would inspire the West to try even harder so as to not lose the competition to china. Its a good thing!


>its just a big universe out there
>i want to get to seeing some of it
Me too brother.. Me too.

>>518881945
I would much rather see us making undersea habitats. Converting seawater to breathable atmosphere, cracking it for energy, aquaculture. Once we had that kind of technology in hand, we could think about moving into near-Earth space.

Oh my god
I have the footage
I have it
I have it
I finally have it

>>518881323
idgaf if youre religious in space retard
its probably even a good idea in space, just to stay grounded and realistic about the instant death that surrounds you on all sides up there

but this not believing in space?
stfu retard we literally are talking rn because we did the halfsies version of what im talking about, just in low earth orbit and only with dinky little satellites
needs to go further. further into space. industrialize the moon. build an orbital colony. build afuckingnother one. blast that one off to mars with your now experienced space colonist population. etc
its the clear way forward

you talk about muh jews, but you offer no solutions. theirs is breeding the third world and loaning them money to buy/consume garbage that they sell on amazon. mine is pointing that out towards the moon so they can chase that bag in a way that actually fucking helps. your plan is presumably to wipe them out, but that was everyone elses plan too for the past ~5k yrs, and it didnt work

>>518861111 (OP)
earth is definetly toast. all the water is poisoned by alpha radiation and radon because of your based nuclear energy. this wasnt the case 10 years ago mind you.

the soil is toast too. the water is polluted and the plancton dies (oxygen). earth is toast. we are toast.

>>518881945
This guy examines "Rock Hopping" which is what I'm referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOUQQMJlww

>>518882458
?

should have used only so much nuclear so the planet is able to absorb it but were lead by retards here who cant figure out the simplest of things. to ensure their own survival, what a bunch of fucking idiots. i dont know what to say.

>>518881635
Space trash shield. Get wrecked aliens.

Ive got you now you fucking bastards
Ive got it

60 minutes

it’s done

this would 100% scare the shit out of people if I posted the full vid on yt

>>518881365
>But, if robots can do the same thing that humans can do, why even send humans up? Just send the robots and they will dig and work, they could even build the factories that will utilize the resources that are up there. (and there is lots of it) I don't know how humans would adapt to it.
yea i think humans will be there mostly for maintenance of the robots/facility mostly. obviously want someone there to just monitor things, do check ups etc

the end goal is obv a facility that can produce another facility that can produce facilities. from there, building an orbital colony will be absolutely trivial. maybe build it in lunar orbit, just a small one as a prototype. then, for the next one thats in earths orbit, you can move that lunar colony out to near the new colony and house the workers/robots etc
it all basically chains together. and the challenges and rewards drive the innovation as we get better and have more resources up there

>Realistically we can start doing this now and in 2030,2040
yea. the point is we have to be the ones to start

and the stuff about exploration is just me waxing autistic. id be satisfied with just a zillion more sick telescopes. which we could also definitely do too at the same time and would prolly be easier/cheaper instead of going through fucking govt agencies, and building on earth

Yep so
I just caught footage of this drone going 100km/h in one direction and then instantaneously changing directions and going right without even needing to slow down like it was nothing

>>518883317
I know it’s just grainy screenshots now but these are from an hour long video that will blow your dick off if I post it
Whoever is piloting these is cooked
Absolutely cooked

>>518882929
these things are going in between skyscrapers like it’s nothing

>>518881945
>We will never leave the solar system.
what if we dont need to?

>We will never colonize other planets, especially Mars
what if we dont need to?

>The challenges are insurmountable.
they arent
you just need money
thats it

>But we may send vessels to the asteroid belt to capture and return resource-rich rocks to Earth
how about the big fuckin rock right next door?

>I can also see space habitats being feasible and desirable
dasitmane

>>518882567
>cant read
i know
thats why youre not coming to space retard
later

>>518883588
>cant write
>thinks he is going to space

chat
Chat I just got ridiculously good footage

>>518883727
I am going to get black bagged any minute now

>>518883727
oh my god is that a fucking drone? holy fucking shit

>>518883768
thats drones m8
someones just shitposting irl
if it was military or ayyys theyd probably turn their lights off

>>518883938
>>518883812
it’s not a commercial grade drone, you don’t understand yet
You have not seen them do the things I’ve seen them do

There is a SWARM of them up there
They do not have their lights on most of the time
They only do it sometimes very rarely

They perform manoeuvres no DJI can perform. Instantaneous change of direction etc

>>518883938
these things are flying between buildings in excess of 200 km’s an hour with no lights on at times

>>518861111 (OP)
Africans and Native Americans were in the stone age when they were found. They were dragged thousands of years into the future and you can see the result. We won't pass the filter babysitting primitives.

>>518861111 (OP)
pvp planets like earth don't become space faring

>>518883768
Good. Maybe they'll stick shit up your ass? Aliens are just fallen demons, and the CIA is a bunch of homosexuals.

>>518883812
You haven’t seen what it does
It will zip down between a building and then instantaneously reappear back where it started only to do it all over again
It’s like it just instantly gets back to where it started and repeats the same line over and over
Itll go dark and reappear in a totally new section of the sky and stay airborne for hours far longer than any drone battery lets you

>>518883812
Drones by law must have red and green flashing navigation lights. They are much much slower. And their lights must stay on at all times.

These things are bright white, FAST, and 99% of the time their lights are OFF

>>518877406
>Earth is not real we live in God's domain this is already heaven
lmao, hilarious take. from a philosophical/theological/metaphysical perspective, it would be way more appropriate to posit the opposite, that we are already in hell.

>>518884198
sounds like more than one drone switching lights on and off between them

>>518883727
Nigga caught me speeding in human airspace again

>>518883812
I have filmed drones before
And planes
I know what helicopters drones and planes look like
Pic rel is a drone

The white things are not your average drones
They make no noise
They change directions rapidly
They perform very risky flight manoeuvres that endanger the public with great skill despite potential charges from the law
Theyre insane in comparison

>>518884044
>There is a SWARM of them up there
they got those tho
the chinese did all those fancy light shows with em. even had a competition of how many you can control from one computer etc
totally possible commercially, even privately

>>518884111
>no lights
could also be chink military. who knows. but theyd DEFINITELY have drones like that. and theyve been going around teabagging random SEA cunts lately, havent they? i remember they encircled you guys with their navy that one time
so its probably just the commies acting up, and imo thats what it looks like from what youve shown: drones/communits

but hey if its ayyys then we get to skip a couple steps in my plan and go str8 to space-faring FTL civilization
or get wiped out/enslaved
either or

>>518884364
It would explain why Satan was in Eden.

>>518883812
I have six drones that I fly around this city
I know what a drone looks like to pilot

The white things are on crack
You would need to wear six FPV goggles at the same time and have night vision on everything to do the shit they do
What I have seen is either aliens or a billionaire with classified tech not available to the public there is no other explanation
Whatever the white things are I want one and I want one now

>>518884541
theyre on crack
It’s not normal

>>518884541
these things are fucked the speed man you dont get it
It’s not some shitty China swarm drone
These things are fucked

Theyre fucked

>>518870985
the new "goldrush" is inside the moon ;)

>>518874125
is that... bubblegum at 25seconds?

I was zoomed in about 20x tracking one that was moving left at what looked like roughly 100-150km/h. All of a sudden it instantly moves right, you can make this direction change out in the clip.
Then it picks up speed to like double or triple what it was previously in a very short time and ascends in altitude rapidly.
I am talking crazy speeds.
I have drones that can go 80-90km and even that is quite fast but these white things are fucking bullets man they go wherever the fuck they want very very quickly

>>518886009
so look at it
It’s going left going left, then bam going right out of nowhere
Then it fucking zippssss off straight up and to the right

>>518861111 (OP)
FTL technology used to transport humans without killing them is not possible, and even if it was, we aren't going to stop killing each other over resources long enough to utilize it. asteroid mining is a possibility, and some of the richest people will eventually find a way to start a colony somewhere else in the solar system, and that will end with them being stuck wherever they end up as the rest of humanity either regresses technologically or destroys itself with war/pollution.

>>518886009
at exactly 4 seconds it stops going left and goes right

>>518861111 (OP)
probably not but who knows? we would probably be in space already if we just worked together as a species.

>>518884799
>It’s not some shitty China swarm drone
yea lol its probably the GOOD chinese drone swarm

idk if youve watched the advancements in tech lately, but they have literal floating base/hive of drones that can deploy a bunch of drones at once. dont even need to be directly operated
some cunts also have anti-air defense drone systems that can move massive amounts of drones at once and intercept fucking missiles
its getting pretty wild out there

so my moneys on it being the commies again
its always the fucking communists, youll see

>>518861111 (OP)
Tribalism and the will to divergence and human Speciation are fundamental for space colonization.

Universalistic bullshit is the bane of space colonization.

>>518883727
a potatocam light in the sky moving at drone speeds omgomgomg call the pentacle!!!

>>518861111 (OP)
humans? no
intelligent robots? possibly.

>>518886009
yeah they figured out zero g 40 years ago and have used it exclusively to kill americans for kike wars.

>>518861111 (OP)

In all likelihood, no. Not for a very, very long time anyway.

We don't have anywhere near the level of technology necessary to ferry human beings to extraneous solar systems.
The fastest space probe ever built took 30 years to exit our solar system. It would take roughly another 80,000 years to reach the next closest solar system. We don't have cryo sleep, or pulse engines to propel spacecraft any faster, or machinery capable of bending space time to shorten travel.
For now, the prospect would be nearly 3,000 subsequent generations of people, living in confined quarters on a ship, reproducing, and raising children who would all live and die on that ship, all successfully having been indoctrinated with the belief that their life was not a cruel and horrible waste, and that the eventuality of the mission that neither they, nor their children, nor their grandchildren would ever witness, was worthwhile.

Forget about mechanical or logistical concerns, or avoiding hazards in space. The likelihood that one of those people, somewhere along the way, wouldn't say "fuck this shit" and blow a hole in the side of the spaceship, killing everyone on board, is microscopically low.

>>518886278
I don’t think the Chinese are that fast man
I mean look at that altitude hike …

>>518861111 (OP)
teleportation is more realistic than physically traveling thru interstellar space

we already are

>>518861111 (OP)
We can. Russia just has to stop sperging out.

>>518861111 (OP)
No lol not having tribalism is what got us here

maybe we will go to moon again and maybe just maybe to the mars but humanity won't accomplish anything significant in space
white birth rates are on record low so who is gonna guide us into the future? indians niggers spics? it's over

>>518861111 (OP)
Pajeets are the great filter. There’s likely twice as many as the official numbers say and they’re rapidly spreading over the world, drowning us in a flood of curry shit.

>>518861399
>Space is fake.
>The government released all these conspiracy theories about space being fake and hasn't taken them down and instead left it to grow like a seed
>space is fake guys did you hear the news?
lmaoing

>>518861111 (OP)
Kill all the black people and kill all the white trash first, then we'll talk.

>>518883121
But that is only IF robotics take off in the near future. We might have to wait more years for that get up to speed. But its coming, if not in 10 years then at least 20-30 years. And in the meantime we have to use brave humans willing to face the frontier.

But ok lets theorycraft. If we send up the first mission to colonize the moon with a small base/settlement for further development. What is the most needed?

1. Housing and shelter.
2. Gardening for food.
3. Production / tools for collecting and processing materials to turn profit and further development

1. Housing.
NASA already has a startup company with the tech to create housing from the dust on the moon.
>small stove melts down collected moon dust which then gets blown in to a bubble sphere where it crystallizes and gets really hard and air/pressure tight.
>its small in size
>it can also create plumbing (or any kind of shape with the help of plastic/other material thing which the melted moon dust takes the shape of before it hardens and becomes solid.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15183347/Nasa-unveils-plan-astronauts-live-moon-inside-glass-bubbles-lunar-dust.html

This glass tech above could also be used in combination with other tech like Elon's boring company bores that bore tunnels underground.
1. First the tunnels get bored
2. Then the glass bubble furnace place a layer of that glass material creating a sealed of space in the tunnels where you can have oxygen.

It could also be used in combination with the 3D printer tech as show in the webm here >>518868983


>the end goal is obv a facility that can produce another facility that can produce facilities.
Ok how do we get there? What are the first steps?
Shipping parts from earth would be expensive, so creating them there could be easier and cheaper. But obviously some parts would have to be sent up.

>and the stuff about exploration is just me waxing autistic
Dude i love it. Keep doing it.

>>518886435
>I don’t think the Chinese are that fast man
dont underestimate them just because they have small penii. the red is a dangerous and calculating beast. thats part of the reason we need to be industrializing the moon. otherwise well have to be dealing with space commies
cant have that

>>518886403

I get pretty fucking sick of going to the trouble of typing up well thought-out contributions to threads on here only to have them ignored by 8 word quip-posting mouth breathers like you fucking faggots.

>>518887151
>>518886739
>>518886637
>>518886568

>>518861111 (OP)
WILL WE EVER BECOME SPACE-FARTING?
SPACE-FARTING HAHA FUNNY FART SPACE

>>518883423
>>518882929
nigger just post it, youve been teasing for weeks

>>518887319
dude i was taking a crap out of my freaking behind when i read this, how crazy is that

>>518887238

The only thing they have going for them is ethnic homogeneity.
Institutions and efforts based on collectivity function so much better over there because they don't have the pesky ethnic distrust and outfighting that plagues the modern west.

Everything else is worse though.
Because individuality is not valued, there are no creative geniuses in China, or at least they are very few.
Look at Jack Ma. Literally just copied Amazon.
They are forced to fill predefined roles their entire lives, and there are simply no incentives for coloring outside the lines.

GUYS.
STOP IMMEDIATELY BAILING OUT OF EVERY FUCKING THREAD I CONTRIBUTE TO.
IM NOT TYPING UP THESE GAY ASS DIATRIBE ESSAYS FOR NO REASON.

>>518887219
>But that is only IF robotics take off in the near future
imo this is HOW we get robotics take off in the near future
space. cuz thats where its needed most. no one needs a robot to pour them coffee. they need a robot to mine spacerocks

>materials/first steps
ideally you need to source from space. moons full of tons of rare earths and ores and whatever other garbage has hit it over the years. it can be mined. we need robots for that imo, because i think modern spacesuit + mining sounds too sketchy, and slow
youll need actual produced goods first obviously, to build anything, but thats where you get all the zillionaires investing in it. no biggie, theyre good for that

any ppl there will be living in like survivalist tier shacks, for short stays and returning to earth. itll suck and be super fucking dangerous. theyll be mostly making decisions on how to optimize/redesign robots to be more useful for mining. while doing that, you build a big facility for melting down whatever materials youre collecting. end goal, a facility to make materials to build more facilities, you get that part
and you saw the moon concrete. we got all this shit already. its literally just getting zillionaires psyched to gib money, and getting ppl crazy enough to try to go up there and try and pull it off

>>518887623
we are still in the investigative period you must understand. I believe all will be revealed in time
you may have this

>>518888423
Somebody please explain to me how they are able to stay locked at a certain distance from one another while they travel

>>518861399
The colors are clealy different, retard

>>518887715
>The only thing they have going for them is ethnic homogeneity.
well theyre trying
they just gotta DELET everyone else thats not han first

>Because individuality is not valued, there are no creative geniuses in China, or at least they are very few
im sure theres some (they probably come here lol)
its just that in communism, worse than being not valued, individuality is actively a problem/threat to the system. so its punished
instead whoevers loyal to the state gets promoted. that doesnt generally give you the best guy for the job (see: USSR in post stalin era: run by illiterate dirt-farmers who stalin liked/trusted and promoted)

>Look at Jack Ma. Literally just copied Amazon.
all the red can do is copy what the free world creates

>>518888630
>Somebody please explain to me how they are able to stay locked at a certain distance from one another while they travel
Geolocating software and wifi/bluetooth? btw, I don't doubt you just playing devils advocate

>>518889132
No it’s….
It’s not possible
They are locked together, speed matched, trajectory matched, pitch matched… distance locked….

This isn’t something your average gps commercial drone can do
Even a $10,000 drone would struggle to pull this off

We are talking extremely difficult manoeuvres here
The fact that they are locked while they travel is insane
Whoever or whatever is piloting them is insane
They are genuinely cracked

>>518889132
look at their angle
Theyre the exact same angle, speed, everything

Whatever they are theyre very very advanced dude
Very advanced

>>518888423
I also record all of my paranormal proof videos with camcorders from the 80s.

>>518888423
At any moment there is like 10 of these things up in the sky, zipping around to all different suburbs
I have seen them in multiple suburbs
They don’t just cover the entire city it’s the whole state and potentially the entire planet
Their range is potentially unlimited
I have personally seen up to ten at once
I have no idea how many are up there it could be hundreds or thousands
They go wherever they want pretty much every night

>>518889623
It’s night time and zoomed at a distance of about 15 kilometres, so it’s quite good for the conditions

Sadly they do appear to be most active when it’s dark
When it’s light out, I can never spot them

Only ONCE did I spot them during the day, back in 2019
90% of the time it is night

>>518889623
15 KILOMETRE of zoom

>>518886403

Respond to my post, you fucking fags.
>>518889897
>>518889623
>>518889132

>>518889623
Also those are NOT the raw files
What you’re seeing is a phone recorded video of the raw files playing on a television screen, compressed even further to meet file size limit on 4chan
The raw video is much higher quality

>>518861163
Fpbp as usual

>>518861111 (OP)
Yeah. But we-they are already in space, it’s just plain gullibility to think otherwise.
Look up every now and then, with a calm mind eventually you’ll see it.

>>518888630
Relativity <:^)

>>518861111 (OP)
We got filtered, good luck to the next cycle

>>518889958
>>518886403
i missed it desu

>We don't have anywhere near the level of technology necessary to ferry human beings to extraneous solar systems
across solar systems? no
industrialize the moon? yes
cant be worrying about leaving just yet. too risky, no reward. basically certain doom, actually lol.

no, gotta just build a nice industrial base that can produce things IN space. and thatll take some learning. learning we can ONLY do in space. thats how we build an irl enterprise, or whatever. couldnt build that on earth. but all thats a ways off, we ought to stay realistic imo, but still with our eyes in the skies

the thing is, last space race yielded some insane breakthroughs. it stands to reason more space shit will yield more problems, and thus, more breakthroughs. so while we dont have FTL, and cant realistically leave and go anywhere meaningful, lets just not right yet. lets just focus on the local area. ie the moon and the space in between earth and the moon. we could have a whole bunch of stuff up there that ppl could travel to and from, this century, if we start now

just industrialize the moon bro
its ez

>>518888423
Wow it's fucking nothing.

>>518890735

No one cares about building anything on the moon.
Asteroid mining colony on Mars is far-fetched. Space-faring means exploring the galaxy. None of that shit is anywhere on the horizon. It's not unreasonable to say the answer is "never".

>>518891456
>No one cares about building anything on the moon.
Yes they do. Moon tourism.
There are resources on the moon and whoever are able to utilize them have billions and billions worth of resources.

>Asteroid mining colony on Mars is far-fetched.
No its not, its 40-60 years away.

>>518886403
>We don't have anywhere near the level of technology necessary to ferry human beings to extraneous solar systems.
Building self-sustaining habitats on planets and in space in our own solar system would need to be figured out before worrying about traveling further. Development is also currently stifled because companies and government have no reason to invest in it. The only thing they care about right now is launching satellites and what we have is good enough for that.
If we started with moon colonies and began building industries around it and getting more groups involved then there would naturally be a lot of new developments and technology improvements.

>For now, the prospect would be nearly 3,000 subsequent generations of people, living in confined quarters on a ship, reproducing, and raising children who would all live and die on that ship, all successfully having been indoctrinated with the belief that their life was not a cruel and horrible waste, and that the eventuality of the mission that neither they, nor their children, nor their grandchildren would ever witness, was worthwhile.
You would need a massive star trek size starship to even attempt something like this and due to the size it would need to be built in space relating back to my previous point about needing a space colony infrastructure first. Once you do have that i'm not sure it would be much different from living in a city. Maybe not the greatest life if you want to hang out at the beach every weekend but plenty of worse ways to live on earth. Those born on the ship won't care because it will be all they know. You're also assuming that earth won't eventually become a total hellscape itself.

>somewhere along the way, wouldn't say "fuck this shit" and blow a hole in the side of the spaceship, killing everyone on board, is microscopically low.
Plenty of ways to mitigate both the ability to do this and the damage caused if it happened, that's just part of the ship design.

>>518891456
>No one cares about building anything on the moon.
yea because they havent read the thread yet
this is all very much possible with current tech. we could unironically have a prototype of one of these lil guys >>518868983 up there building moonhuts in soon™
get enough zillionaires psyched on futurism (which they kinda already are, just in gay ways instead of cool ones) and the promise of basically infinite rare earths and resources (without war), and well have a lunar rodeo before this decades out
its the new wild west pardner
come claim a stake
dont even have to chase out any injuns this time, because theres no air

>>518892031

The economics of asteroid mining are trash. Most of what you would be pulling is heavy metal. You'd burn more fuel than you could ever justify later on at the point of sale.

>>518873898
Legend has it that it was a big black comet

>>518861399
who's jfk jr?

>>518892800

>Building self-sustaining habitats on planets
Planet. Singular. Mars. The only incentive to do it would be asteroid mining, which isn't anywhere near economical rn.

>Those born on the ship won't care because it will be all they know.
They would absolutely know. Everyone on board would be made aware of whence they came, one way or another.

>You're also assuming that earth won't eventually become a total hellscape itself.
I don't see how that's relevant. After enough time, people on board wouldn't know what was going on on earth. The distance would cause too great a delay in messaging.

>Plenty of ways to mitigate
There are dozens of ways to catastophically damage a vessel (or its contents). None of them can be mitigated without hurting or eliminating the ability of crew/passengers to maintain and repair the ship.
Also, we have no idea how to build something that would last 80k years. We literally wouldn't know where to start.

>>518888422
>no one needs a robot to pour them coffee.
Except the filthy capitalist that needs to earn slightly more money by not paying workers hehe. But yeah the need for robots for space purposes can't be underrated. Imagine being Elon and can just lunch a rocket full of fucking robots to a planet and they just start building and harvesting.

>youll need actual produced goods first
That is the number 1 problem to solve. How to start taking advantage of moon resources ASAP and earning money off it.

It's just a rock. A Jew is the one who said it's an alien ship. /pol/ fell for what a kike said.

>>518892979
>The economics of asteroid mining are trash.
Yeah currently. But not for long. And not all asteroids are made the same. Some are more valuable then others. We literally have infinite resources if we get this happening. How is that bad?

>>518894555
Just a rock?

>The Moon holds a variety of valuable natural resources that could support both lunar colonization and space-based industry. Here are the main ones:

1. Water Ice

Where: Mainly in permanently shadowed craters at the lunar poles.
Uses:
Drinking water for astronauts
Oxygen extraction (for breathing)
Hydrogen fuel production (for rocket fuel via electrolysis)
This is one of the most critical resources because it supports life support systems and propulsion.

2. Regolith (Lunar Soil)

The Moon is covered in fine dust and broken rock (regolith), which contains:
Oxygen: Bound in oxides (like silicon dioxide, iron oxide). Can be extracted for breathable air.
Metals: Iron, aluminum, titanium, and magnesium—usable in construction and manufacturing.
Silicon: Important for solar panels and electronics.
Regolith is also being explored for 3D printing lunar habitats.

3. Helium-3

What: A rare isotope on Earth but more abundant on the Moon’s surface.
Why it's interesting: Potential fuel for nuclear fusion.
Reality check: Still experimental, but could be a long-term clean energy source if fusion becomes viable.

4. Rare Earth Elements (REEs)

Includes lanthanides, yttrium, and others used in high-tech applications (phones, magnets, lasers).
Trace amounts exist on the Moon but are hard to extract with current technology.

5. Building Materials

Rocks and dust on the Moon can be turned into concrete-like materials for construction.
Lunar materials could support in-situ resource utilization (ISRU) — using local resources to build habitats, roads, and radiation shields.

6. Solar Power Potential

Not a mined resource, but the Moon gets constant sunlight (especially at the poles), making it ideal for solar energy harvesting.
Could power lunar bases or even transmit energy to Earth via satellites (a long-term concept).

>>518861111 (OP)
No.
We have to babysit niggers, spics, jeets, and arabs because they just cannot be civilized on their own.

>>518894600

Nobody said it was bad.
But if I told you there are unlimited Toyota Tundras on Venus for free, you'd be like that's cool, but how the fuck do I get to Venus and then bring one back?
Same thing here.

>But not for long
Unfortunately no. Transporting a substantial load from an asteroid to a planet, refining it, getting it up into orbit, ferrying it back to earth over 8 months, and then safely reentering with it is nigh impossible with any technology on the horizon. It's certainly not cost effective.

https://www.space.com/astronomy/moon/south-korea-wants-to-build-a-moon-base-by-2045

South Korea's space ambitions keep growing.

The nation wants to build a moon base by 2045, The Korea Times reported on Thursday (July 17), citing a long-term exploration road map that the Korea AeroSpace Administration (KASA) laid out that same day during a hearing at the National Research Foundation of Korea in Daejeon.

That road map "outlines five core missions, including low Earth orbit and microgravity exploration, lunar exploration, and solar and space science missions," The Korea Times wrote.

KASA, which was established just last year, aims to develop homegrown lunar landing and roving technology, as well as the ability to extract and exploit moon resources such as water ice.

Some of this work is already underway. For example, the Korea Institute of Geoscience and Mineral Resources recently deployed prototype lunar rovers in an abandoned coal mine, testing tech that could be used for space mining down the road.

And South Korea already has some experience at and around the moon. In August 2022, the nation launched its first moon probe — called the Korea Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter or Danuri — atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. Danuri reached lunar orbit four months later and is still going strong, studying the moon with its suite of instruments.

South Korea had already been aiming for the lunar surface; officials have said they want to put a robotic lander on the moon by 2032. But the newly revealed road map ups the ante. The nation plans to develop a new, presumably more capable moon lander by 2040, "with the goal of building a lunar economic base by 2045," The Korea Times wrote.

>>518894956
>Same thing here.
Yeah which is why we have get this started and get the technology progressing so we can make it cheaper.

>>518873824
if this is the case we should be able to zoom in far enough to see china across the pacific

>>518861111 (OP)
as long as the world is majority sub-human?
no.
we can't be allowed to leave the planet.

>>518893419
>Planet. Singular. Mars. The only incentive to do it would be asteroid mining, which isn't anywhere near economical rn.
its because youre skipping a bunch of steps
it goes
>build moon base
>mine moon
>build moon factory
>build moon factory that builds moon factories
>repeat for a while
>use lunar industrial base to build orbiital version of moon factory
>launch it into lunar orbit
>use orbiting factory to build some sort of lunar habitat for long-term lunar living for humans
now youve basically conquered and can live on/around the moon indefinitely, and presumably learned a few tricks along the way.
then you basically repeat the process to build a much larger orbital facility around earth. you could even move and use the lunar orbital facility as a dorm for the guys you got building the orbital colony in earths orbit.
build the big new orbital colony around earth, and now weve conquered the area around earth as well. from there you repeat that process a few times. so now youre REALLY good at building these habitable orbital facilities, and can probably easily build one to sling out to mars. its only THEN you can rly start colonizing mars. but youll be able to do it with quite a lot more exp under your belt and itll probably be a lot safer, easier and cheaper. probably even make way more money too because there will be an enormous stellar economy (provided we dont let the commies win) springing up around all this crazy bullshit and the untapped potential of mining the fucking solar system

elons just getting ahead of himself is all
you gotta industrialize the moon first

>>518861111 (OP)
It would be better for humanity to go extinct than for jews to spread across the galaxy.

>>518895223
>if this is the case we should be able to zoom in far enough to see china across the pacific
the air is not immaterial.
distant mountains are colored blue because water vapor scatters light
although with IR and super zoom you can see incredibly far and it proves flat earth.
you have ZERO
NONE
verifiable evidence of curvature.

>>518876923
>Complain about a workplace being toxic.
>How dare you be mean when describing the biggest asshole in the workplace.

>>518895086

All of the work to be done to increase efficiencies to make this possible is to be done on earth.
It's pure fuel efficiency. And we don't have a substance at present that can accomplish it. It's not question of innovation or improvement; it literally hasn't been discovered yet.

>>518895670
>sub-human
theres not gonna be enough room for them anyways. dont worry about that man, theyre not coming. no ones ever gonna pay to fire ngubu and his extended family into space. its just not worth it. not even as a joke about spaceniggers. the margin for error in space is too thin to have some retard up there, let alone all of them

>>518861111 (OP)
Aliens won't let us leave Earth because we'd act like a bunch of nigs/jews and ruin everything they've built. Simple as.

>>518896266
>no ones ever gonna pay to fire ngubu and his extended family into space

You're fucking retarded if you think they won't start shipping them up to space by the billion if it increased GDP and made life even more miserable for everyone.

>>518896163
>It's pure fuel efficiency.
If we can produce fuel on the moon we will drastically cut costs. The moon can be used as a gas station because its cheaper to lunch from the moon then it is to lunch from the earth. For longer travels such as a Mars they need to refuel while in space, as it is now those refueling rockets also have to be lunched from earth. But if they can create fuel on the moon (which is possible because it has the resources for it) then the cost of sending things to Mars will drastically decrease


1. Water Ice
Where: Mainly in permanently shadowed craters at the lunar poles.
Uses:
Drinking water for astronauts
Oxygen extraction (for breathing)
Hydrogen fuel production (for rocket fuel via electrolysis)
This is one of the most critical resources because it supports life support systems and propulsion.

>>518896266

They shot them across the ocean. Why do you think they wouldn't shoot them into space?

>>518861111 (OP)
Women cannot survive off-planet. Nor are they fertile. They are earthbound.

>>518893419
>Planet. Singular. Mars. The only incentive to do it would be asteroid mining, which isn't anywhere near economical rn.
That's like many new industries upfront cost and risk is high. America wasn't much different, it was initially just an expensive risky journey seeking treasure.
It becomes easier over time though once they make the initial investment and start learning/improving then you have benefits of being able to manufacture directly in space rather than launching everything back and forth (moreso on the moon in that case). Then you have potential for a tourism industry. People cry the earth is becoming overpopulated but there is plenty of room in space.
At a certain point you would have to sort out the legal implications a sustainable colony. If they are not subject to the same laws as countries on earth that makes them very appealing to those wanting to avoid regulations on lots of different things. If they are subject to laws who is going to come there to shoot them if they refuse. Would it even be worth the cost of going there to hunt them.

>They would absolutely know. Everyone on board would be made aware of whence they came, one way or another.
They would know it exists but because they never experienced it they have no reason to be especially nostalgic or homesick for it. It would be like describing the garden of eden, interesting but not a realistic part of their reality. The ship they spent their whole life on would feel natural and normal rather than like some prison.

>I don't see how that's relevant. After enough time, people on board wouldn't know what was going on on earth.
Because it could happen before they leave and could incentivize this kind of journey.

>>518893419
>Also, we have no idea how to build something that would last 80k years. We literally wouldn't know where to start.
That is part of understanding how to build a sustainable space colony. They would need to be able to gather materials and make repairs themselves.

>>518896266
yes they will. they make the best asskissing slaves and many of them are smaller.
and you can't go into space without "dieversity"!

>>518877973
well, duh, but before that, we need to first find them

>>518896721

Exploring the Americas isn't an appropriate analogue. Those people assumed something was there but had no idea what it was. They couldn't be certain they weren't just going to fall off the edge of the earth.
In the case of Mars though, we know exactly what is there: Rocks and a little bit of ice
A far more appropriate step to take would be many more unmanned probes. To the ice caps to confirm liquid water. A unit large enough to drill and take cores for mineral analysis.
As of right now, there is zero economic basis for making a manned mission, and no fuel source that suits any of humanity's future material needs.

>The ship they spent their whole life on would feel natural and normal rather than like some prison.
This is a major reach. You have no idea how they would handle it. We evolved to occupy big, open spaces with earth beneath our feet and sky above us, and always had the option to relocate if dissatisfied. You have no way of knowing if anyone would behave, let alone that EVERYONE would.

>Because it could happen before they leave and could incentivize this kind of journey.
What kind of incentives could you offer someone who spends their entire life in a box? How do you know what they would value?

>That is part of understanding how to build a sustainable space colony.
Only tangentially related. It would provide basic steps to inform the process, but proximity to earth would make one worlds apart (literally) from the other.

And the rest of us are never going to get space shit done trying to drag the masses of barbarians up the ladder of civilization.

>>518896430
>increased GDP
im pretty sure theyd literally get their mythical infinite GDP growth if they did what ive been saying ITT. and you wouldnt even need to import 6gorillion turdworlders to do it. they wouldnt help anyways, theyd just fuck up and get spaced/kill everyone at the facility by trying to go outside or something.
nah, you just need a bunch of robots and a guy who can lift em up to the moon. and thats not only not unrealistic, but its stuff we have now. just need to ramp up the robots

>>518897569
Sorry dawg, management says jeets are a much cheaper workforce with lower living standards and they're super duper smart tech workers. 100 SpaceX Starships packed to the brim with streetshitters are already launching, make room.

>>518897359
>and you can't go into space without "dieversity"!
well you cant go there without fucking money either (a lot of it), so whos paying? leaving earth costs a lot. im not talking about govt space agencies, for the record. that shit is for the birds my dude. its over. finito. space is gonna be some private shit. and DEI shit is going the way of the dodo rn, because it loses money. spaceniggers WILL probably happen at some point, because someones gonna fucking do it (probably communists). but youre fucking kidding if you think theres gonna ever be call to throw millions upon millions of welfare recipients into orbit. theres just no reason, and no RoI.
theyre not coming

pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets

>>518861399
if that is Devon island, then what did the British launch onto mars?

oh no, if that thing comes back and ends up being a comet, someone better have some fish and chips ready.

>>518861111 (OP)
>1111
Checking these mysterious digits. Good luck with your space faring.

>>518861111 (OP)
>space

>>518886181
Pills. Now.

>>518894686
You could have just said I'm gay instead of typing all of that you fag

>>518897407
>This is a major reach. You have no idea how they would handle it. We evolved to occupy big, open spaces with earth beneath our feet and sky above us, and always had the option to relocate if dissatisfied. You have no way of knowing if anyone would behave, let alone that EVERYONE would.
What lifestyle standard is normal or tolerable is relative. There are people who live in third world countries who think it is normal to live in shacks, wade through water filled with shit and piss and eat rats, meanwhile there are people who live in cities who think it is normal to be packed together with a thousand people and never touch grass.
On an individual level people have not always had the ability to simply relocate whenever they feel like that, they can't even all do that today, there are physical, legal, and economic restraints to simply leaving and going elsewhere.
Obviously there would be inevitable crime and misbehavior and they would need security protocols for that.

>What kind of incentives could you offer someone who spends their entire life in a box? How do you know what they would value?
Again this would have to be a massive size ship unlike anything currently in existence to even be possible to support multiple generations. Nobody is going to attempt this in a regular shuttle it would be suicide. A ship like this would have pools, gyms, factories, the equivalent of stores, schools, large hydroponics facilities, recreation, etc. Earth is already a box, what do you think they will be desperately missing? Simulate a sky and a beach.
If given the choice between what would effectively be a walkable city or living in India eating rats i'm sure many would choose it over the later.
The people making the initial journey would be choosing it and their children as I said previously have no other frame of reference other than historical information (which they could limit if they considered it something that would legitimately drive people to suicide).

>>518861111 (OP)
Even total war isn't enough to kill off the human species.
I mean, hey, the bombs WILL drop. And nuclear Armageddon is almost certain to get you. But there's gonna be some nigger hater in some dark basement with his kids to start the whole process over again.

>>518861111 (OP)
>Will we ever become space-faring?
no idea.

where's the epstein list?

>>518900909
This. People are quick to assume that our current civilization will be the last one to ever exist.

>>518861399
we got problems on earth to solve, like the jewish problem. forget about space.

>>518900821

Not one of the points you're raising isn't completely full of holes.
There has never been any situation like the one we're talking about. It's vastly, vastly different from any precedented social or economic circumstance that any group of people has ever faced.
And you're correct, recently more and more people are facing constraints on relocation and migration than ever before. The result? More social strife and violence. The reason? Because during the entire rest of our evolutionary history, that option always existed.

Your second point just assumes everybody following prescribed rules for 80,000 years straight, which for all of earth's outlets and mitigating characteristics that a spaceship would totally lack, has never happened once on this planet. Shit, no civilization has even lasted a fraction that long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages
This is the closest analogue in human behavior that I can think of.
The people planning this mission would be tasked with predicting outcomes that they aren't even aware exist. We have no knowledge of how a human population changes , physically, socially, linguistically, or ideologically over a time span that long.
There's no system that could be put in place that would reliably prevent the people aboard from questioning their origin, the eventuality/purpose of their mission, the motives for it. It only took westerners 2000 years to basically stop going to church altogether. I don't see how you could prevent the development of sectarian division, sabotage, violence, etc at some point during the transit. It's too stochastic.

>>518873972
i'm going to be spreading this image around

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Formerly Chuck's

>>518901784
>>518901889

God shut the fuck up.

>>518902490
YWNBAW
kys tranny

>>518902712

You can't make me.
Can't even boss a woman around. Sad.

>>518901721
>i'm going to be spreading this image around
here's another to mock scientism believers.

>>518901687
we just gotta work on building cool orbital facilities nearby, that can spin around and give us artificial gravity. and to do that we have to industrialize the moon.
once we get good at that, THEN we can start moving around the solar system, maybe. but no ones leaving the system until we either figure out FTL, or we run out of resources. unfortunately, the former is, at least for now, likely never. but on the bright side, the latter is also basically never too. or at least it would take a LONG time before we ran out of resources in this system.
and all along the way we will be learning new and more efficient ways to exist in space. theres just a lot of stuff we can do here first before we head out.

the only scenario where i could see ANYONE doing what you guys are saying and just leaving for a distant star system, is in the event somethings wrong with our sun (for ex starts going red giant). or some other such cataclysm. thatd be a last resort.
we need to think smaller and gradually work our way up to that if we wanna actually survive. but then thats also like millions and millions of years away, so we got time