Thread 518861383

What if Ukraine didn't have a corrupt jew Zelenskyy in charge,
and the ukrainian leader would submit to Russia when they invaded?
Then Russia and Putin, after taking Ukraine, they would be ever more cocky and confident,
they would attack NATO countries like baltics.
Then a big war would happen, then NATO defeats Russia.
After this Ukraine regains independence from Russia.
With zero loss of Ukrainian males, no deaths.
Do you agree?

>>518861383 (OP)
>Then Russia and Putin, after taking Ukraine, they would be ever more cocky and confident,
>they would attack NATO countries like baltics.
why? for what?

there was an actual political/economic/ethnic conflict between Russia and Ukraine. That's why the war happened.

>>518861453
There was nothing that justified a war

>>518861383 (OP)
If Zelensky is corrupt then why doesn't Putin pay him off? Is he stupid?

>>518861536
Sure thing, zogbot. It certainly was unexpected and totally unjustified invasion of poor innocent Ukraine by bloodthirsty heckin' bad ruZZia

Putin is also a jew, like Zelenskyy. Two jews send Slavic males to kill each other.

Slavs should fight the jews back. And fight the evil rotten west too.

>>518861684
True

>>518861536
>There was nothing that justified a war
quite plenty of shit actually was going on in Ukraine in run-up to and after Maidan
Everyone knows this as long as he's not a lying jew

>>518861836
Nothing that justified a war, though

>>518861898
>Nothing that justified a war, though
Pretty sure people dying on basis of ethnicity and language is a justification for war

>>518861557
So he can just take the money and still continue his retarded course? Been there, done that, back in the 2000s. Why do you think we are here in the first place? Cockhole government turned out to be an untrustworthy partner.

>>518861931
It's not

Zelenskyy is a jewish traitor, sold off his nation to the West for bribes. Never choose a jew for your leader. Jews are slimy creatures, lizards, traitors. They are only loyal to another jew.

>>518861383 (OP)
so in your eyes a corrupt leader defends his country and a non corrupt leader gives it over to an invading force in hopes of someone else coming to rescue them after they get fucked in the ass by the enemy for years and years, makes sense

>>518861557
He gets enough money from the U.S.

>>518861898
Everyone kind of expected Ukraine to just surrender. It was a miscalculation. Whence the name - special military operation.

>>518861898
Do you know what a war is? Diplomacy by other means. Russian diplomacy failed over and over, 10+ years of failures. When you continuously fail for 10 years, it's about time to learn and use other means.

>>518861536
Wow lack of self awareness coming from that flag.

>>518861684
this but unironically

>>518861953
it is

>>518861980
ziggers did, no one else believed that.

>>518861989
War is the opposite of diplomacy. Both are methods of influencing other nations, but once is defined by coercion and the other is defined by the lack of it

>>518861383 (OP)
Zlonsky is not ruling the country, he's saying what most of the guys in the round table agree on
Would be no war if our language wasn't prohibited
But if you do prohibit it, there shall be war

>>518862049
Why do you never argue in good faith?

>>518861383 (OP)
You are a moron. If the Kiev kike would have agreed with the peace terms, Donbas would have still been in 404. You can thank Boris Johnson for the 2mil dead Ukrainians and countless mercenaries.

>>518861453
>there was an actual political/economic/ethnic conflict between Russia and Ukraine. That's why the war happened.
The war happened because russia wanted to conquer Ukraine and burn loot murder it. You know this of course you disingenious lying rusnigger.

>>518862106
Because people don't argue when they state facts

>>518862049
>ziggers did, no one else believed that.
Ukraine was pretty much overwhelmed and had no chances of fighting back. The only reason it did, was because NATO pledged full financial and military/logistical support.
Yet here we are today, and Ukraine is about to lose yet another city. Was it worth it? Dunno, but Ukraine isn't recovering from this, especially after it lost ~40% of its population, that's never coming back

>>518862015
Glass house dude. Both of you.

>>518861383 (OP)
>Then a big war would happen,
>With zero loss of Ukrainian males,
Polish scholar

>>518862115
Literally every single one of my friend's fathers is alive, aswell as them too
We live 40km from the border

Western Europe wants war in Ukraine because Ukrainian females are fleeing to the west and western males will marry them and have children.
And after all males in Ukraine will be dead, they will use Ukraine for food production, agricultural land.
It's a big plan.

>>518861383 (OP)
typical polak, dreaming of that big russkie cock sliding up his ass

>>518862099
What do you think "by other means" means? Are you one of those famous young Americans who can't read/write English? Why don't you go to school?

>>518862156
what are their jobs?

>>518862106
Russians are cowards they won't fight their own government who doesn't even give them roads or hot water.

You also have a hubris that needs to be smashed.

>>518862115
>You can thank Boris Johnson for the 2mil dead Ukrainians
and the jew elensky

>>518862022
>siberian natives
I highly doubt that. Actual natives are so fucking rare I have only seen one in 40 years of living here. Bet no one outside of Siberia even knows what they're called.

You can regain lost territory. Poland lost it's territory in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_poland
>The Partitions of Poland[a] were three partitions of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth that took place between 1772 and 1795, toward the end of the 18th century. They ended the existence of the state, resulting in the elimination of sovereign Poland and Lithuania for 123 years.

>>518861684
>Sure thing, zogbot. It certainly was unexpected and totally unjustified invasion of poor innocent Ukraine by bloodthirsty heckin' bad ruZZia
It takes a special kind of subhuman nation to have your officials mock concerns over the invasion, including your foreign ministry posting John Travolta being lost on Maidan Square, to then come to the last channel where you are still allowed to interact with your superiors, and declare innocence and attempt to mock descriptions of your authoritarian, fashist shithole. Eat shit, vermin, you cling to the Csar because you are a worm in your life.

>>518862187
Mugging is not charity just because it employs "other means". The difference is obvious

>>518861557
Er, Gayman brü, Ze is a GRU double agent. Every decision Ze makes leads to less Ukrainian piggies and more territory for Rassia. It's awesome having him in charge. Imagine Ze capitulating. How would Russia ever get Odessa back?

>>518862041
than what stops russia to transfr some russian ethnics in a coutry,falseflag them and then invade?See how thin your cheek is vatnik?

>>518861684
Crimea

>>518862165
I have a girl and we live together
You're just an incel thinking that all women are whores lmfao

>>518862207
>Russians are cowards they won't fight their own government who doesn't even give them roads or hot water.

>>518862287
Actually yes, monke thought this way and it was the end goal before his schitzophrenia kicked in

>>518862286
>than what stops russia to transfr some russian ethnics in a coutry,falseflag them and then invade?See how thin your cheek is vatnik?
NAFOids will do nonstop tinfoil loonacy in order to justify their low-IQ takes on anything

how can the west coup a territory if you do not already covertly control what was supposed to be an independant nation? and to do so with simple lobbying? kek, no more a coup than a russian is human. get wrekt slavshit seethe niggers.

>>518862282
What are you even trying to say here schizo retard? We were talking about geopolitics just seconds ago and suddenly you're trying to describe how your day went? Make it make sense.

>>518862330
>roads or hot water
>TRAAAAMP! RASSELI BARAKIIII!
Kek

>>518862388
You obviously have Russian DNA.

>>518862379
We have less than 4% of multicolored population, unlike US or russia

>>518861383 (OP)
>submit
fag

>>518862388
>one is defined by coercion and the other is defined by the lack of it
Mugging and charity
War and diplomacy

>>518862156
how many fathers does your friend have?

>>518862355
>nonstop lunacy theory
like the nazi biolabs in ukraine ?
https://www.rferl.org/a/belarusian-prankster-tricks-russian-teachers-tinfoil-hats-foreign-threat/33198243.html

>>518862355
You were saying on February 23, 2022 that russia is peaceful and will not attack Ukraine and evil HATO is trying to paint poor innocent russia as a bad guy. You russians always lie.

>>518862395
your pic is lowIQ bait and you know it. There's horrible run-down streets in every country, but Russia has been doing pretty well comparatively to previous decades. Surely a lot of work is to be done, but it's by no means horrible.
Major Russian cities are also the first among Europeans to implement robots to do food/goods deliveries.

But what's the point of me telling you this? You already know it. Your agenda is different here

>>518862126
the war happened because your bussy looked so moist

>>518862099
>>518862427
He literally has a point goys
It keeps failing, as they keep spitting out empty promises like a spoiled child

>>518862427
And you have sub-Saharan African DNA. Although to be fair, even they make you seem pretty retarded by comparison. Why are you even here, there is no scat being posted here right now. There's nothing here for you.

>>518862465
Mugging and charity are completely unrelated, describe a relationship between individual people who are moral agents.
War and diplomacy are related and describe a relationship between nation states which are not moral agents.

>>518861383 (OP)
The entire point of him appearing was to demolish Ukraine. He was a cia op. Like all cia ops you put a guy in a shit hole country to make it worse.

>>518861453
>>they would attack NATO countries like baltics.
>why? for what?
Russian control of the Baltic Sea, same reason Russia wants southern Ukraine to control the Black Sea. Getting back parts of their land empire is also a plus, of course.

>>518862481
>like the nazi biolabs in ukraine ?
biolabs were confirmed by Victoria Nuland though

the fact that the US has biolabs in many countries, to collect DNA material for experiments is a well-known fact, and they do it on official contracts with the local governments

>>518862476
I guess one more than you do currently idk
Not sure if you have one

Are you goys incapable of understanding that making ukraine pro western democracy that is in NATO is a direct attack on russia? This entire war was caused by western provocateurs. Paid for in ukrainian blood. Russia has done best it could do, it defended itself while not escalating into full european war or losing too much blood

>>518862560
>Russian control of the Baltic Sea, same reason Russia wants southern Ukraine to control the Black Sea. Getting back parts of their land empire is also a plus, of course.
cool, and do you realise that there is virtually no reason for Russia to control those natural barriers if there is no threats posed from the west, right?

>>518862582
Oh come on, even a zigger such as myself would not give you that last point. There was a shitton of ways to lose less people.

>>518862621
When are you moving back to russia?

>>518862575
having 2 fathers makes the kid very highly to be a faggot as well.

>>518861383 (OP)
What?
Russia would made filtration camp just like in chechenya killing anybody that were able to resist, rest of the country would become worst shit than russia just like in belarus in 2 years

>>518862582
>don’t you understand that [russian cope]

So instead of Ukraine, Russians managed to get more countries into NATO and also managed to get them together to help Ukraine. And it’s still working LMAO.

Maybe Russia needs to fuck off, nobody needs their permission to be in NATO or not.

>>518862540
>sub-Saharan African DNA
Nah, im good.
>Starts thinking about what comes out of assholes
We already you have Russian DNA. What I do not understand is why you are living in Estonia, could you please elaborate on why you prefer that over living in Russia? I am curious.

>>518861453
>why? for what?
Imperialism. To get territories and population.
If Russia would get Ukraine for free with minimal losses, they would go after next countries like Baltics. This could trigger some big war with NATO. Meanwhile Ukraine would just wait for the results of that war, without losing 50% of the population.

I am not saying Ukrainian military shouldn't fight when Russia invaded, but after Ukraine lost military personel, they should stop and not send civilians to war.

>>518862569
https://www.nti.org/risky-business/russian-biological-facility-build-up-underscores-need-for-enhanced-transparency/
infact rusia has biolab too

>>518862540
Mugging and charity are alike in that they both involve transferring money from one person to another.
Similarly war and diplomacy are alike in that both involve influencing other nations.
In both cases the former is distinct from the latter in that the former is defined by coercion and the latter isn't.

>>518862651
>When are you moving back to russia?
when will you transition back to being a male?

>>518862649
>There was a shitton of ways to lose less people.
Please elaborate.

>>518862649
Well, explain, I am not very acquainted with the facts.

>>518862156
There used to be 40 million of you. Make another headcount.

>>518862681
>If Russia would get Ukraine for free with minimal losses, they would go after next countries like Baltics.
I'm sorry but you're absolutely retarded.

Baltics = tiny territory, tiny population, no resources, nothing.
Imperialism my ass. Go back to school and do geography/social studies

>>518862658
I don't really know if I can count your imaginary father as real anon, pretty sad about the loss tho

>>518862710
There's 60 now, we live in your walls

>>518861383 (OP)
What if you fuck off back to preddit and stay there.
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>>518862286
Russians don't do shit like that. They have other methods.

>>518862737
>Go back to school
Where did you go to school?

>>518862737
then russia must offer a guarantee it will not attack.Oh it did that with ukraina and still attacked. -__-

THE WESTERN EUROPE WANTS THIS WAR
They want to take over ukrainian females and ukrainian agricultural land.

>>518862795
He went there for free without needing his mother to be raped in highschool

>>518861684
Yes, especially considering the fact that literally a day prior you claimed that you do not intend to invade.

>>518862684
>https://www.nti.org/risky-business/russian-biological-facility-build-up-underscores-need-for-enhanced-transparency/
>infact rusia has biolab too
and? Everyone has biolabs.

Problem is that Russian biolabs are in Russia.
American biolabs are in Ukraine.

>>518862793
like what?They do shit like that in moldov i know i was there.

>>518862287
98% referendum to join the Russian Federation. All of them were Ukrainians and now are Russian. Eat shit, swamp dwelling faggot.

>>518862737
That would be true only if russia were a peaceful country not run by psychopathic thieving niggers such as yourself. The only reason Monke has not attacked Baltics is because of NATO. Otherwise you would have been rejoined with your fellow rusnigger slaves.

>>518862795
>>518862831
UK

>>518861383 (OP)
Russia wants peace. There would be no war without Jews and you stupid dumb Pollacks shouldn't be allowed to have a country because you're too stupid to understand this despite centuries of being oppressed by Jews. This is why people rightfully call you stupid.

>>518862672
I never said you had to be dissatisfied with your brown skin, I just pointed out that you had it. Also go take some English classes, that second sentence you conjured up is a travesty. Even for a brownoid.

>>518862689
Even if I accept that, it doesn't even make a difference. Mugging is something that involves moral agents. Someone who is capable of moral agency has to justify evil. The mugger and the mugged are both moral agents.
A nation state is incapable of moral agency, thus does not need to justify evil. Might makes. Simple as.

>>518862744
oh i see now, you're below conscription age. really disingenuous to play the "i'm still alive, as well as my school buddies" card

>>518861684
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>518862816
Dude I already said that you're an ince-..
Wait a second
>weird misstypes
>incomprehencible grammar

>>518862862
>That would be true only if russia were a peaceful country not run by psychopathic thieving niggers such as yourself.
so I run a country now? Cool, when is my inuaguration?
>The only reason Monke has not attacked Baltics is because of NATO.
Or because there is no need to, as Kaliningrad exists to protect Russia's western frontier.
>Otherwise you would have been rejoined with your fellow rusnigger slaves.
you have no case in this discussion

>>518862681
My problem is that there is no reason to defend baltics from russia.

Would you rather live in moscow or paris?

That is your choice. Russian occupation or American occupation.

Everyone on /pol/ would rather live in Poland than France. And that is because Russians took better care of Poland than Americans took care of France.

Who can lead Europe besides Russia or America? The German english speaking bureaucracy is desperate to genocide Europeans by niggers. They are not a power, they are a schizophrenic slave of America. Russia is much better than that. You would rather be ruled by Brussels than Moscow?

>>518862842
russia does not own ukraine.its not the same country.

>>518862863
And why did you move to Lithuania afterwards?

>>518862866
> Russia wants peace

Yes, that’s why we’re in Year 4 with no denazification or demilitarization or any Kiev and over 40% of Russia’s GDP is wrapped up in their war factories.

MUH PEACE

>>518862882
I'm 27, while being in a uni for 2 years in Germany met a lovely girl of my age, now we live together
Sometimes we drive back to see her family

>>518862156
>Literally every single one of my friend's fathers is alive, aswell as them too
>We live 40km from the border

child of oligarch, buys his way out of everything

>>518862681
They were going for Geoegia 2008, that's it. Win, sign a favourable peace, move out. Didn't even install a puppet there. They are retarded though, 2014 is long gone.

>>518862538
>quotes a kike
>on /pol/
you shills are too transparent

>>518862921
>russia does not own ukraine.its not the same country.
this is a bankrupt argument, countries are owned by people, not by institutions.
And many Ukrainians are Russian (and many Russians aer Ukrainians)

surprise surprise, that's why borders always change but people never do

>>518862438
>We have less than 4% of multicolored population, unlike US or russia

thats what they are prepping you for, you retarded fucking idiot
get ready for some NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGERS

>>518862874
A nation state's actions are determined by people who are moral agents.
(I'm sure some people would be sympathetic if you were to argue that the people in charge of the Russian government are literal demons, but I think we can ignore them)

>>518862874
>, I just pointed out that you had it
Sounds like schizophrenic delusions. Does it run in your family? Genetically damaged individuals often share some attributes with their closest kin.
I am not dissatisfied. I get to live in peace and properity while others have to doublethink-conjure up an Identity of a nationalist while living abroad. Its bizarre. Its psychiatric, even. Did you ever get tested?

>>518862911
Russia had no need to invade Ukraine. But niggers can't go against their nature. Rusniggers are violent thieving psychopaths who understand only force. When are you moving back to russia to join your fellow niggers?

>>518862922
>And why did you move to Lithuania afterwards?
because UK is a shitstain, place is too dangerous and too poor for most people nowadays, also lots of crackheads

>>518862863
Honestly impressive

>>518863007
>Russia had no need to invade Ukraine
sorry but this is just your stupid opinion bud

>>518861383 (OP)
Georgia submitted. Nothing had changed. The EU is their largest trading partner.

>>518863010
>because UK is a shitstain, place is too dangerous and too poor for most people nowadays, also lots of crackheads
And what about your ancestral home? why not move back there?

>>518862967
Nope, my hands just killed russians way too often without needing a gun

>>518862961
>Sometimes we drive back to see her family
while there is a ban on males leaving the country? at least get your bullshit stories straight first, faggot

>>518862920
>Everyone on /pol/ would rather live in Poland than France. And that is because Russians took better care of Poland than Americans took care of France.
Shut the fuck up dumb nigger, in parallel to USSR west was going through cultural, economic and civil peak of such magnitudes that only issues left for you were made up problems about gays and minorities.
Everything that Poland is today economically and culturally is thanks to Poland itself and to period after eastern block. This is easily verifiable by the fact that Poland is doing better than literally every single post soviet country.
Worst of all what is the point of talking to you? There genuinely is no argument that I can make to convince you that Russia is not trustworthy, you are too far away and too divided by literally nonexistent issues that kikes created for you.

>>518861383 (OP)
you somehow missed the whole point of ukraine's existence after 2014

>>518862850
So when will russia grant Chechnya Independance? They had a vote and 90% voted for Independance from russia.
Russia only cares about the will of the people, right? :^)

>>518863059
You can ask this rusnigger this same question over and over again and he will refuse to answer every time.

>>518863007
hohol refugee detected

>>518863059
>And what about your ancestral home? why not move back there?
I'd need to pick which one, since my parents have roots from many countries. I'll see how situation evolves, job market is starting to go to shit in Lithuania anyway recently, might need to move eventually.
Albeit this means I will have to sacrifice my gun hobby, as pretty much Lithuania and Czechia are the only two countries where you can easily get a gun permit and carry daily

>>518862700 >>518862704
Come on guys, 3 years is not enough time to straight up forget the opening blunders. A ton of operational errors, logistical fuckups, straight up mismanagement. In an ideal world most of our chain of command would've been sent to the fucking uranium mines back in the 2022 for their gross negligence. Plus a distinct lack of strikes on delivery lanes for all the shiny tech cuckraine was getting is absolutely infuriating. Sure, let's focus on the optics and refrain from bombing every railway between Poland and Lvov to oblivion, what a bunch of jackasses.

>>518862994
>thats what they are prepping you for
>thinking we will accept immigrants without passports
Anon, 40% of your population is brown because you allowed them in
You still do nothing about it either

>>518863084
If he's not on the front line, he's actually useless and worse than a dead Zigger for the West. At least our dead Ziggers don't live off your tax funded aid.

>>518863115
Thats okay. If he comes here and abuses one of the last ways of communicating with actual people, I will give him some attention that his poor little broken mind desires.

>>518863160
Doesn't change the fact that it's gonna be 4 years now

>>518862984
Yes and? Georgians were the majority population of Abkhazia by far by every single population census including by USSR and RF, despite that Russia removed the majority autochthonous population in favor of a minority it prefers.
Thereof everything you write is cope and ultimately Russia will do whatever it can and then justify it post factum.

>>518863138
>I'll see how situation evolves,
So you are a pure opportunist that has no roots.

>>518863224
Doesn't change the fact that someone in your family is dead, and you are likely to follow.

>>518863160
>In an ideal world
In an ideal world, everyone who supports ziggers or the Invasion should hang. If you support it, we shouldnt even give you any attention whatsoever.

>>518863225
Russia, China and the USA do whatever we like.

>>518863002
The nation state is an inherently coercive institution, it is literally a monopoly on violence. To accept, be involved with and to support the state is evil in and of itself.
Don't come here with childish retard shit like pretending all governments aren't inherently coercive. Russian government isn't unique you absolute muppet. Do you think that if a nation state that is weaker than the US does something that the US doesn't like, then US government will be just like "ok we don't want you to do that and it upsets us greatly, but we can't use violence in lieu of diplmoacy so we won't do anything about it"? No it's war. Right then and there.

>>518863003
You're the one who came to this thread and started randomly talking about running DNA tests on people you've never seen, never met and never heard in your life. I don't think you get to call anyone schizophrenic, tranny. No go mend your axe wound somewhere else, you're really uninteresting and low IQ. Even talking to a woman would be more stimulating than you.

>>518863106
waiting for lithunainan flag to respond to this.I dont think he have the balls.

>>518863084
There's no ban if you have a permit to visit your kids, or relatives as long as the system trusts you
And it trusts me after giving them enough evidence over the years
>at least get your bullshit stories straight first, faggot
anon.. are you?

>>518863270
>and you are likely to follow.
I hope you or someone in your family gets killed as well.

>>518863100
>only issues left for you were made up problems about gays and minorities.

Bro you have no idea how bad life in the west is. Of course as a Georgian you probably hate Russians because they are whiter than you.

>>518863274
Stop giving me (you)s then, or accept being a part of the problem.

>>518863058
A lot has changed see
>>518863225
We were the majority in Abkhazia, now we have almost 300k people in a country of 4 million, 300k which is more than entire current population of Abkhazia, that can't return home.
Of course worst of all Russia is always lying because despite the fact that we are not aggressive to Russia, Russia refuses to resolve the conflict where we were the majority population.
Thereof Russia does what it wants, not what is right ethnically or some kind of delusion like this.

>>518863126
shut up zigger troon

>>518863291
You gotta hope harder then. My family counts 3 people of which 2 are ineligible even in a total mobilization. I'm your last hope, bud.

>>518863270
Literally nobody died, not even the fathers or mothers of my friends, even distant ones
If you believe the media that much you might also get interested in selling your son for a bag of chips or a new lada anon

>>518861383 (OP)
No, slavic wars always involve countless dead, whether for or against them.

>>518863290
>And it trusts me after giving them enough evidence over the years
that's why you ignored >>518862203, their jobs is being barrier troops

>>518863280
The difference is that russia is weak. You went too far and now will suffer the consequences.

>>518863282
I dont need to run a DNA test on you. It is obvious you have russian DNA. there is something wrong with you people. Its the result of decades of Oprichnik mindfuck. You are so broken you latch to the most powerful thing that accepts you, in your case the mighty puccia. You literally live in the enemies state, because your own home is a shithole, yet you shill for it.
That shits psychiatric, son. There is simply no logical explanation except delusions and doublethink on your part.

>>518863317
At least you're not dead on the front line. Look at the hohol in this thread, apparently he prefers to keep his own life over keeping the former Ukraine.

>>518863280
Sure, then why create moral optics at all? Genuinely what is the purpose of posturing on/pol/ if your ethics are arbitrary since you ultimately do what you will and justify afterwards.
The reason why this is important is because majority of posters make moral arguments here.

>>518861383 (OP)
fuck off nato trannie. you already lost.

>>518863354
So its a family of genetically unfit people hoping that Europeans get killed for no reason except glee and identification with a strong entity such as Russia.
So Hitler was 100% right about you.

>>518861383 (OP)
Hard to speculate. Russia did mess with ukies since 2014 and the result was not enough. Logically, otherwise 2022 invasion would not be required. Now that the dust has settled, I think russian invasion was inevitable.

>>518863394
>The difference is that russia is weak.
Is that why you prefer to yap at us online farther away from your beloved motherland Ukraine?

>>518861383 (OP)
Why join EU when you can join Russia and have their infinite energy. EU has none

>>518863303
bankrupt argument,russia have more muzzies and churkas

>>518863426
Well, if you consider being too old and too young "genetically unfit"...

>>518863282
Governments do have a monopoly on legitimate violence, but that doesn't at all imply that any action by a government is justified.
>be involved with and to support the state is evil in and of itself
It's interesting that you've now adopted this anarchist viewpoint, but I think it's actually in line with my original point, that the war is unjustified, or "evil".

>>518863426
Hitler was an idiot bro. Prussia was a beautiful piece of military machinery and bumbling austrian peasant uses democracy to take control of it and runs it into the ground. He allied with meds and romanians against russians. How can you argue that italians and romanians are white but russians arent. What a retard.

>>518863379
I am playing vidiya and responding slow because I'm not a redditor nor a nolife
>>518862203
IT specialists mainly, media, some design machine tools
We kinda hang out in garadge from time to time doing sum shi when my wife is at work

>>518863416
We learnt that from the USA. You see, you can name your shit, for example: peace through strength, bomb anyone you like, and everything starts looking hunky dory.

>>518863479
Any white person laughs at how pathetic and weak russia is. I'm just waiting for your total collapse so I can visit moscow and buy prime russian pussy for the price of a pack of cigs.

It was all just a prank (ukraine is not in the joke)

>>518863498
I like how you didnt go into the part where you hope Europeans die. Well conditioned. >>518863479
Arent you doing the same. You yap online about how powerful your country is while being away from all the fighting. You think posting on 4ch made your country powerful? What part did you do?

>>518862842
Every countries labs are not run by the US Dept of War, faggot. Imagine the Russian army had a biolab just across the border in Canada or Mexico.
Especially since Russia knew covid came from a lab.

>>518863649
Eh, I just didn't bother reading further.

>>518862528
>flag
>over 20pbtid
peak irony

>>518863538
>How can you argue that italians and romanians are white but russians arent
kek nice one anon
Also, much more importantly, Romanians and Italians are European, Russians are not.

>>518863566
>and buy prime russian pussy
I suppose Swiss females aren't attracted by a hohol refugee with small dick and small wallet.

>>518863677
Damn... you showed me. Learned english, came to an international forum, to tell me you dont care and russia stronk. Hecking based. Totally not the way a 15 y.o. schoolgirl acts.

>>518863303
>Of course as a Georgian you probably hate Russians because they are whiter than you.
kek

>>518861383 (OP)
>then NATO defeats Russia
Big if true.

>>518863746
Am I wrong though? Your comment was a poor attempt at riling me up, ignoring that is a-okay. Russia stronk was also not the point of my posts here, that one is entirely on you. You asked me to elaborate the ways we could've saved some of our lost forces, I answered. Don't want answers? Stop asking questions, especially ones with a (you).

>>518863817
top kek

>>518863566
>I'm just waiting for your total collapse
Give us a deadline, nigga. How many more weeks?

>>518861383 (OP)
>>518863424
sorry, Poland, the AI has spoken. I do believe you're fucked.

>>518863692
I'm having fun in this thread, tf you want me to do?

>>518861557
>If Zelensky is corrupt then why doesn't Putin pay him off? Is he stupid?
The west can afford bigger bribes than Russia, Russia has only economy size of the Italy. Also the west can also offer child rape clubs, they can invite Zelenskyy there, and to Lolita Express planes.

>>518863746
I came on an international contrarian forum to laugh at the woke left and booze online with brit/pol/ long before Ukraine became a popular pet of the left.

>>518863859
>riling me up,
In what way? Genetical unfitness is, thankfully, not a reason to be excluded from a socialist society.
and you didnt read the rest.

>>518863282
> Do you think that if a nation state that is weaker than the US does something that the US doesn't like, then US government will be just like "ok we don't want you to do that and it upsets us greatly, but we can't use violence in lieu of diplmoacy so we won't do anything about it"?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but to me it’s seems like this is the exactly what Chinaman is trying to sell. A chaos masked as freedoms.

>>518864019
>booze online with brit/pol/
You sit, vodka in hand, in russia, and pretend you are laughing with the chaps on the Island?

>>518863973
He has wife and kids, he also wasn't on a certain island near US in the 90's either

>>518864023
It's also not a thing to casually bring up in a conversation, don't try to play dumb here.

>>518864019
>>518864060
I just realized you also self-inserted yourself into another convo. You are desperate to have European peers, which is typical for the most rabid ziggers, since this is all a psychiatric issue stemming from complete loss of self-worth in a fashist prison society.

>>518864060
it would be lads, not chaps, actually

>>518864138
I wanted to emigrate to the UK at that time and I loved their culture before it went completely woke and pro-Ukrainian.

>>518864087
If I so sorry for bringing it casually up in conversation, will you comment on feeling gleeful when power is exerted over those you find inferior?

>>518862954
si vis pacem, para bellum

>>518864208
>I wanted to emigrate to the UK
What a surprise. And now you find yourself shilling for the enemy of the UK like a useful idiot.
What do you feel when you think about not identifying with the Russian Nation anymore? Is it fear?

>>518864288
I'm Russian. I stand with Russia. The UK wasn't that openly hostile to us before 2022.

>>518863162
have you seen your population projections lately, you retarded hohol? you think they're not going to flood your country to compensate? you're going to be a minority in your country in 20 years max just like every other globohomo nation, and its because you allowed NATO and EU in
You still do nothing about it either

>>518864209
Eh. Don;t wanna, too much hassle. Let's just say that having some biases is entirely natural, and the fact that I told our little cockhole here to go die doesn't mean I'll go and kill some of them myself.

>>518861968
>so in your eyes a corrupt leader defends his country and a non corrupt leader gives it over to an invading force in hopes of someone else coming to rescue them after they get fucked in the ass by the enemy for years and years, makes sense
A corrupt leader defends his territory "to the last Ukrainian", because he doesn't care if all Ukries will be dead.
What is the point of territory and nation when they are all dead?
Maybe he is defending territory not for Ukrainians but for western corporations that want to produce food on ukrainian land.

>>518864441
>Don;t wanna, too much hassle.
Ah, yes. Getting the Nogging Jogging in introspection is taboo, I figured.
>>518864395
>I stand with Russia.
No refunds.

>>518861980
>Everyone kind of expected Ukraine to just surrender. It was a miscalculation. Whence the name - special military operation.
And they should surrender, they would be better of if they did. But they got corrupted by the west into continuing this war.
If Ukraine surrendered, the war with Russia would still happen, but it would be NATO vs Russia. Ukrainians would just sit and watch the results.

>>518861383 (OP)
The “jews” was the perfect plan via Rothschilds. The “jews” everyone bitches about are fake, obviously. Name them on who they really are, criminal satanists who should hang for crimes against humanity.

>>518864541
Yeah yeah, whatever, your engagement tactic sucks ass. Speaking of, you people counting every kind of rabble out there as a european simply dilutes the european brand.

>>518864494
Of course
Evertwhere NATO goes christians are wiped out. Iraq, Gaza, Libya, Syria, and now Ukraine.

>>518864692
>Speaking of, you people counting every kind of rabble out there as a european simply dilutes the european brand.
In retrospection, Hohols getting accepted into civilization over you was obviously always going to break you.

>>518863243
>So you are a pure opportunist that has no roots.
I have an environment and beliefs
you probably just live in a virtual reality 24/7

>>518864541
>No refunds.
I didn't ask for any. I feel fine living here. Moving to NYC or Geneva would be nice of course but it is not something like I would tear my arse apart just to get there. I'm satisfied currently with Saint Peter.

>>518861383 (OP)
>With zero loss of Ukrainian males, no deaths.
LMFAO who would you think would be drafted to fight? plus you think whoever dodged a ruski draft would be alive or free after dodging? kek, either penal colony or death/meat for the grinder.

>>518861684
>nooooo we never invaded
>in fact we have been invaded by ebil ukraine!11

>>518864758
Good one. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

>>518864692
your military is gone. all wasted in ukraine. no chance russia ever wins in ukraine

>>518864494
Should Poland surrender if russia attacked it?

>>518862506
>Major Russian cities are also the first among Europeans to implement robots to do food/goods deliveries.
Moжeт хвaтит нacacывaть Пынe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQWEQ9ot6j0

>>518864780
>you probably just live in a virtual reality 24/7
ever since I have gotten that cushy remote job for a swiss company i have been spending more time on the PC, true.
>I have an environment and beliefs
You are a rootless opportunist, which is no moral judgement, but your desperate shilling for someothing you perceive as powerful is the result of your rootlessness and your dissatisfaction with it. Basically, you have no real identity, which is why you overcompensate.

>>518864824
Great. Are you going to do anything about it, pekka?

>>518864788
>I didn't ask for any.
Good, you are not getting any
>thinking about moving to NYC
lol
>I'm satisfied currently with Saint Peter.
Then why are you here and not in Saint peter community spheres.

>>518864814
Am I wrong? Russians keep bringing it up as the final insult that broke the camels back. And, after all, this is all about perception and insults and pride and delusions. Its surely not about biolabs.

>>518863162
>>518863290
>>518863970

this hohol nigger is seriously retarded

>>518864826
>Should Poland surrender if russia attacked it?
Not immediately, because then NATO would say they won't help because we are not defending.
But if all Polish soldiers were dead and NATO was not fighting Russia, then Poland should surrender rather than murder millions of civilians in war, like Zelenskyy is doing.

>>518864904
Finland takes Karelia
Germany takes Königsberg
Poland marches to moscow

And there is nothing you weaklings can do about it.

>>518864826
Why the fuck would they attack Poland?
Any day now faggots been saying that for 80 years.

>>518864965
>this is all about perception and insults and pride and delusions
My oh my, your fantasy world sounds like a sad place to live in. Or like a mind of a woman.

>>518861383 (OP)
If Zelensky wasn’t in charge, Ukraine never would have provoked Russia into war in the first place.

>>518864994
Sounds fun, can you start already?

>>518864965
Seeing how US funded biolabs killed millions with covid it was definately an issue.

>>518864988
Confirmed for russian on VPN.
>>518865007
Why the fuck would they attack Ukraine? You and every rusnigger said on February 23, 2022.

>>518864988
But since polacks might be as dumb as hohols and Polish politicians are as corrupt as ukrainian, we might end up in the same way.

>>518865053
It was the WEF puppet Poroshenko that started the mess though

>>518865031
It seems we have encountered another roadblock of the mind. I encourage you engage with taboo topics of the non-degenerative sort, anon.

fuck off you dog, either you're a russian in disguise or a fucking traitor to nato and the west. whichever you are, kill yourself, slavic cunt.

>>518865082
>destroyed the engineering marvel that was the canal to Crimea that created a million jobs
>Biolabs run by the US Dept of War
>Resuming the shelling of Donbas
>Ukraine build up of troops at the border
>CIA listening posts on Russia's border

5 days before Russia invaded Zelensky started the war by shelling separatists

WHEN NAZI GERMANY HITLER were attacking everybody, nazi dutch surrendered and didn't fight Hitler. Some other European nations also didn't fight Hitler. They ended up in good way because they didn't fight Hitler.
Sometimes it is better to temporary submit and lose something, but you can regain territory and nation in the future.
Poland also regained territory in the past.

Ukraine should have submitted long time ago and wait for Russia vs NATO results.

A quick summary of the thread:

Leningrad is standing on par with Geneva and NYC.

>>518865154
>fuck off you dog, either you're a russian in disguise or a fucking traitor to nato and the west.
I am not a traitor to NATO and west because I am not west, I am Slavic. And if you knew when west is doing you wouldn't say this. Putin is right about nazism in the west.

>>518864433
>projections
Basically the thing that makes nothing ever happen
Gladly all I saw was this
https://youtu.be/C_u-pDalsN0?list=RDGMEMYH9CUrFO7CfLJpaD7UR85wVM4BjCIqbA8Jk

>>518865286
Literally didn't happen, you are writing things that even literal Russian military personnel like Prigozin state didn't happen.
There was no major escalation or official response from Russia in any way, it was a covertly started military action from Russia, I do not know what level of evil you need to be to try to shift truth in such a manner.

>>518864983
Your skin is too brown to have a doctor's degree

>>518865286
Funny how neither you nor any other ziggers ever said any of those kremlin talking points until after russia started the war. Literally everything you said is a lie. Pathetic attempt at rewriting history.

>>518865507
Yes, Russia invaded Ukraine. It's a fact. We could say Ukraine government might have provoked in some ways, but it's not important.

What is important, when Russia attacked and Ukrainian soldiers died, it was time to submit and wait for Russia to attack bigger countries. Instead jew Zelensky decided to kill 2 million Ukrainian males and sent million ukrainian females to the west so they can whore themselves to western males.

>>518861383 (OP)
Imagine voooooooooooooting for that EBALO, i would say even EBLISHE. Fucking hohlopitecus.

>>518865507
Every point is true faggot
You cant even argue the points

Plus NAZI parades in Kiev
That didnt help

>>518865597
Name one thing thats not true, tranny faggot shill

>>518864826
Poland is smaller version of Ukraine, both ground and population wise, ofc they should and there are many benefits to it, in fact alliance of EU and Russia has only benefits.

>>518865636
I literrally posted the OSCE document proving ukraine started the shelling 5 days before the invasion

>>518865286
>Biolabs
>Resuming the shelling of Donbas
>CIA
>canal to Crimea that created a million jobs
Holy cope

>>518862238
24 pbtid
Apply some ointment, svinka. Your butthurt glows so hard it is seen from the space

>>518865296
This. Gayto will lose tho, thats why they use Ukraine as cannon fodder.

>>518861383 (OP)
> a big war would happen, then NATO defeats Russia.
>With zero loss of Ukrainian males, no deaths.
why are you such a retard?

>>518865766
i post picrel for everyone to see what kind of moron they are dealing with.

>>518865861
whydoes it matter how many posts someone have?IF he had 1 post you will still say he is a shill.Kill yourself .Just do it.

>>518865823
You literally did not you lying nigger. You posted a document proving russia started shelling Ukrainian civilians 5 days before they invaded.

>>518865857
Proof by EU monitors ukraine started the shelling
>>518865286

Proof of Biolabs run by the US mitary
>https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3057517/fact-sheet-on-wmd-threat-reduction-efforts-with-ukraine-russia-and-other-former/

>The United States has also worked collaboratively to improve Ukraine’s biological safety, security, and disease surveillance for both human and animal health, providing support to 46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites over the last two decades.


CIA:
>https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28664

>According to the New York Times, the CIA has built a series of secret listening posts in Ukraine to tracks Russian troop movements, air and missile attacks.

>>518866049
>>According to the New York Times, the CIA has built a series of secret listening posts in Ukraine to tracks Russian troop movements, air and missile attacks
whats the problem?

>>518866049
>Proof by EU monitors russia started the shelling
Yes that is what you posted, russian.

>>518866041
Everyone can read the map you lying faggot. Almost all of the explosions are in the LPR/DPR side.

What a disgusting faggot shill you are

Ukrainian females are now whores. They are either in western brothels or they whore out to western boyfriend.
This is what the west wanted and why they want to continue the war.

>>518861383 (OP)
I have a feeling that the entire purpose of this war was to drain Western countries of their weapon stockpiles and leave them with their dicks in their hands.
The front hasn't changed for years now and Zelensky spends all of his time out of the country begging for more gibs from the delusional boomers.

>>518863566
>Any white person
you're albanian shitskin

>>518861383 (OP)
>Then Russia and Putin, after taking Ukraine, they would be ever more cocky and confident,
>they would attack NATO countries like baltics.
>Then a big war would happen, then NATO defeats Russia.
>After this Ukraine regains independence from Russia.
>With zero loss of Ukrainian males, no deaths.
Source: Bottom of a Wyborowa

>>518862862
Who hurt you?

>>518861684
you lost and your shit hole will collapse

>>518866282
>now

>>518866129
You are disgusting lying nigger. Everyone knows no such shelling occurred, including you. Why do you continue to spew low IQ kremlin lies when obviously no one will fall for them? What is this level of cope?

>>518866436
What did I write incorrect?
1. Putin would attack next countries after Ukraine, because he has long history of invading other nations. The victory would taste good and he would go after more victories.
2. Eventually he would attack NATO and would probably lose.
3. After Russia lost, Ukraine would regain their territory.
4. No dead ukrainians.

>>518866569
>No dead Ukrainians
Except for the few hundred thousand Putin would forcibly recruit as cannon fodder for invading Poland.

>>518866129
russia started the preparations for invasion as early as September 2021:
"On 2 September 2021, Russia refused to extend the mandate of the OSCE mission at the "Gukovo" and "Donetsk" border checkpoints past 30 September."

"Russia began a slow evacuation of its embassy staff at Kyiv in January 2022. The motives for the evacuation were, at the time, unknown and subjected to multiple speculations."
"Russia Thins Out Its Embassy in Ukraine, a Possible Clue to Putin's Next Move". The New York Times. Kyiv. ISSN 0362-4331

Fighting in the Donbas escalated significantly on 17 February 2022.[379][380][229] There was a sharp increase in artillery shelling by Russian-led militants in Donbas, which Ukraine and its allies considered to be an attempt to provoke the Ukrainian army or create a pretext for invading.[381][382][383] While the daily number of attacks over the first six weeks of 2022 was 2 to 5,[301] the Ukrainian military reported 60 attacks on 17 February. Russian state media also reported over 20 artillery attacks on separatist positions the same day.[301] Russian separatists shelled a kindergarten at Stanytsia Luhanska using artillery, injuring three civilians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelude_to_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Renewed_tensions_(October_2021%E2%80%93February_2022)

>>518866479
You could say that about all of Western civilisation and we aren't even in open warfare.

>>518866635
wow lets see how he will respond to it.
russia has long history doing this

>>518866479
Sure thing, erm... I don't know how to write that clicking sounds whatever your name is

>>518861383 (OP)
If no jew-zelenski russia would get the parts of ukraine that are russian and there would be no conflict.

>>518866635
Then why isn't Putin forcibly recruiting Belarusians in his war right now?
You know that right now Putin actually hires soldiers by paying them while Zelenskyy is kidnapping people off the street and torturing them until they go to war?

>>518866032
Lol, no. Get fucked, nafoid

>>518866821
you
lost

>>518861536
Oh boy, that view ain't going to age well.

>>518866479
Your cities look like an African city, the fuck are you smoking nigger.

>>518866936
>torturing them until they go to war?
every accusations with you rusniggs is a confession

>>518867038
>Your cities look like an African city
every accusation is a confession

>>518862135
>German flag
m8 pls

>>518862126
>The war happened because russia wanted to conquer Ukraine and burn loot murder it.
Russia didn't want to burn and loot it. There is nothing to loot, Ukraine is poorer than Russia.
Russia wanted to own and control Ukraine, just like they control Belarus.

I am not saying this would be great for Ukrainians but it would be better than what they got instead, in the war.

>>518866993
explain your reasoning votka niger

>>518867058
check this out they pit one agains another of the same kin .Vatnik bastards.subhumans

>>518867058
I have 20 videos of Ukrainians doing this to people who refuse Zelenskyy's war.

>>518867289
of course you do

>>518866716
Thanks for proving you are a shill

>wikipedia

>https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/cia-and-fbi-computers-used-for-wikipedia-edits-idUSN16428960/

His dick was so big for an 11 years old

but what if putin didn't attack NATO

>everyone in russia is a volunteer unlike xoxols
volunteer squad reporting for duty

>>518867289
i did not see ukrainians in crutches on the battlefield

>>518866569
This is pure headcanon.

>>518867336
what source its legit then?

>>518867408
i wanted to post this one haha

>>518867408
Nice CIA video with no audio and only manipulated made up text.

>>518865861
>>518866993
Sorry, anon. My shift at my remote job started. They want me to sign the contract that was planned for November earlier and raise my hours. I said not for 23 CHF/hr, I want more. They agreed. Gonna jerk off now, on the clock.
You can choose the race of the woman, I have a japenese cutie in mind but I am open to suggestions.

>>518861383 (OP)
Piggers finally do what they were destined to do - kill, rape, torture and humiliate Russians, you can take any pigger from the street inside or outside of the pigsty, place them in the throne of king kike and nothing at all would change in actions pigsty take against Russia or it’s own denizens.
NATO taking credit for almost a century of bolshevik’s works, and then centuries more work of our esteemed Austrian and poolish parters is just hubris.

>>518867256
at least they're allowed to fight back unlike most case

>>518867336
>no, you need to use only the russian propaganda!
every statement has a link, pidor, you can go to the original article from that date to double check. but you already knew that, pidor

>>518867521
>CIA
where are your webm of ukraine torturing their own, nigger?

>>518867521
the ZcooterZ are fake too?

>>518867521
member of the volunteer squad caught on tape

>>518867403
>but what if putin didn't attack NATO
In worst case the ukrainians would be still alive and vassalized like Belarus.
But I think he would attack. The victory and getting Ukraine would fuel his next wars. Baltics first, maybe Poland. If NATO would not defend, they he would go next, after Finland or someone.
Why would he stop with Ukraine if they got it with almost no cost?

>>518867552
i have that one too.I need to find the one where they are keeping them in pits and throwing biscuits at them haha

>>518867627
>where are your webm of ukraine torturing their own, nigger?
I have it on another hdd, but cannot connect it to the internet for (((reasons))).

>>518867943
concession accepted you fucking loser

>>518867530
>23CHF/hr
Damn. How do you survive on that?

>>518867587
Except every source is ukraine said so

>On 17 February 2022, a mortar shell landed in a kindergarten in Stanytsia Luhanska, Luhansk Oblast, Ukraine. The Luhansk People's Republic (Sergey Kozlov) accused Ukraine of using mortars, grenade launchers, rocketeers or/and a machine gun along its contact line, possibly near Stanytsia Luhanska.[8] Ukrainian sources claimed LPR and Russian positions fired from somewhere near Mykolaivka or Luhansk City towards Stanytsia Luhanska.[6][9][10] This was during the prelude before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[11]

>>518868588
here,putin say it himselfs.it was agitators,hired by russia.

>>518868967
Separatists had 20 battalons dipshit
Both sides had foreign backers

>>518869081
>Separatists
You mean russian troops.

>>518869081
hey i just took putin word.Do you say putin is lyng?know your place scum.

>>518868079
By not living there?
Suggestions for the girl?

>>518867521
you don't believe they are volunteers? and why CIA? why not Mossad?

>>518861557

>Putin is stupid?

Well...yes, putin is a moron; any nobles and nationalists Russian must overthrown this idiot.

>>518861383 (OP)
>jew Zelenskyy
Zelenski is not a Jew
https://files.catbox.moe/wuj97c.mp4
Zelenski is the Hero of Ukraine
While
Putin is the traitor of Russia! And
Putin is Jewish!
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJablGMg3

>>518861557
Naaah.
The goal of Putin is to kill all Russians from both sides.
Putin is a Jew! He is conducting Russian genocide.
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJablGMg3

>>518861684
It was 8 years late. And just how they do it it us enough all of Russian high command to be executed along with their entire blood line , along with Putin.
https://files.catbox.moe/n56cbr.mp4