Thread 518870537

How did the simp problem get so bad? I used to remember my grandfather ripping my cousin because he was following a girl like a puppy.

>>518870537 (OP)
Kys discord troon

>>518870537 (OP)
>pic
Okay, let's settle this once and for all.
Do they know?

>>518870537 (OP)
Hoeflation I guess
Most simps are bad people who would harm anyone the girl points to, so don’t feel too bad for them

>>518870537 (OP)
Men and women can't be friends. That's a well established fact among people with brains.

>>518871002
If you text too much, ask about their day everyday then yes.

>>518871139
I never did that but I didn't need to cause we saw each other on a daily basis

>>518870537 (OP)
Men and women cannot be friends.

>>518871123
It sort of works with an ex when neither party wants to fuck and jealousy is out the window. That shit has to stop when you get a new relationship though.

>>518870537 (OP)
EVERY """"male friend"""" wants to fuck you and is only your """"friend""" because they're waiting for the opportunity to present itself

>friendship
She was just exploiting him for resources without giving him anything in return. She knew she was doing this the entire time. Men and women cannot be friends, unless they're both married and only communicate in the context of the two couples doing something together.

>>518871680
I just can't play this long game anymore. If a woman I'm chatting up is fucking me or acting like she's going to by the 2nd date it's bye-next.

>>518871354
It's amazing how few people realize this.

>>518870537 (OP)
Men are raised to be sois, so simping got out of control.

>>518871002
Of course they know.

>>518870537 (OP)
Men and women cannot be ‘friends’
The animal part of the brain will always be there and have that attraction, men understand this phenomenon perfectly most times, but women really don’t get it and say ‘men and women can be friends!’ Meanwhile their male friend orbiters are obviously waiting for a moment to try slide in.

>>518871354
if you find the right one its possible. its rare but possible. like catching a pokemon

>>518871123
I have never seen a functional male-female friendship. There's always one party that's more into the other, and waiting for the other to become single or something like that. Maybe men and women can be friends after 60 or something, but it certainly doesn't work when you're young.

>>518871354
You can if you look gay and non-threatening.

>>518871959
That's like saying you can win the lottery. Sure, one in ten million win the lottery, but the advice to people buying lottery tickets is still that you're not going to win the lottery.

>>518870537 (OP)
Indians

>>518872064
>even the pudgy and effeminate utter soi is 50% enemy
Whoever drew these random squiggly lines understands women.

>>518871866
They get 3 dates or 1 month, whichever is first.

If I ain't getting pussy by that point, into the trash they go.

>>518870537 (OP)
Pretty much all media after the 90s refused to entertain the idea of "nice guys finish last". It seems like every romcom of the 00s had some loser coded main character hooking up with a 10/10 stacy by merit of personality alone. It takes so long to deprogram a young man raised on that and make him realize that women are incredibly superficial, impulsive, fickle creatures. Throw in the advent of smart phones and it suddenly becomes much, much easier for a young man to get friendzoned by every female in his life and then go bankrupt gooning and simping for e thots. There is almost no mainstream media that will depict the true nature of women. Except Lars Von Trier movies. Doing the lords work, he is.

>>518871958
Women DO understand it perfectly. They are hyper-obsessed with inter-personal relationships, people and social cues.
The reason men become beta-orbiters is that they get out-played by these women.
Even her making that post is a calculated move to both bring more attention to herself, signal to Chad, and put her other simps back in line.
For all we know the situation in the meme has never happened. They use shame and social punishment as a whip.

>>518871958
They only do this to be able to have orbiters and infinite back up plan when her current man gives her the ick inevitably. Most of the time they'll fuck them before that anyways because women are unable to control themselves or take accountability, they will shift the blame to the orbiters if caught.

>>518872225
Yep, women know exactly what they're doing when they're creating beta orbiters. And they have the protocol for "dumping" the simp when he mans up in place from the start.

>>518872225
>>518872327
Nah I don't think they are self-aware about it. It's an instinct.

>>518872265
Beta orbiters never get to fuck, that only happens in your animu.

>>518872064
>short term mate
>long term mate
It's the same picture.

>>518872365
They are absolutely aware of what they're doing.

>>518872209
i was a fairy-tale believing retard until 10th grade when a group of girls i considered 'normal' began loudly talking about getting facefucked when the teacher had to step out for 10 mins. went from "not really interacting with girls" to treating them like dirt and that's when i became attractive to them. full course meal of redpills on women in like, a two month span

>>518872179
Yup. Not only that, I'mma shit test her:
>take her to the movies, tell her I'll get popcorn if she gets the tickets
>take her to coffee, buy her a coffee and she how she reacts
>take her for a cute-but-free date where she needs to be seen in public with me
>introduce her to my friends and get their opinions
>get her to cook for me to evaluate her skills

I have lots of female friends that are uggos whomst I have zero interest in. Just be fucking normal and not a zogged sex-obsessed faggot and you have friendships too.

>>518870537 (OP)
Women are dogshit. News at 5

>>518872365
Most shit normies do is instinct, being able to do something does not require metacognition related to it. Normies aren't autistic by definition, for example, but they are fucking ABYSMAL at understanding social dynamics, which is why they just keep repeating cliches among each other (influenced by TV and movies) rather than paying attention to their lived in experienced, and why they're so prone to being played by narcissists and sociopaths.

>>518872457
>I have lots of female friends that are uggos whomst I have zero interest in.
In that case they're the ones who are interested in you. You, being a feminine faggot, is doing the beta orbiter thing, only as a man with ugly fat simp women who are waiting for a chance.

Men and women can't be friends.

>>518870537 (OP)
Throughout human history men trying to date female friends has been accepted and expected. As the relationship gap widens, men desperately reach out to those same female friends to attempt to settle down. After all, we have a lot in common, and worth a shot right?

Now? You don’t even get the “let’s just be friends.” You get fucking launched into orbit for daring to shoot your shot when she didn’t want you to.

>>518870537 (OP)
I was raised by a single mother and treated my first relationships and marriage like men and women were equal. Went poorly.
I now run my household like its leader, and my second marriage is actually great.
Point is, single parenthood, and a society that convinces men that women are equal and should be treated as such creates unassertive simpy men who live unpleasant lives.

>>518872369
Ofc, but the idea that women and men can be friends is put forth to use like this and be able to have an excuse to be friends with Chad and all her orbiters.

>>518872625
Maybe it worked in a blue moon in the far past, if the woman got drunk and pregnant and simply had to settle with the beta. Today it never works, ever.

>>518872365
It is an awareness that dances between conscious and unconscious. They can push it back to the unconscious out of necessity, to maintain their outward persona as nice little girls, but when they lay down their head at night and drift off into their fantasies, it creeps into their conscious thought and they revel in a grim satisfaction of the humiliation they doled out.

>>518872365
It happens so often hard to believe they don't know what they're doing. Yet they all act angry when the man that obviously loved them gets a gf and stops paying attention to them. The internet has made it better for them in this aspect but believe me they crave it more so irl than internet cucks.

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>>518872551
This is yet another interesting example of personality not being that important. I've seen attractive guys, often the pretty boy archetype who were absolutely adored by women around them but mocked or outright hated by the men.

>>518870537 (OP)
I think this is good they are comingclean on every frobnt time to enforce male only schools colleges and workplaces

>>518870537 (OP)
men and women cant be freinds without someone (mostley the man) developing feelings for the other

>>518872676
I’m not arguing about success rate, but you weren’t actively shamed and discouraged from the behavior. You just had to take the chance.

Women have no problem documenting how this disgusts them. We’re worse for it

>>518872064
i look like the one on the right. dubz decide how i am gonna kill myself

>>518870537 (OP)
Beta ugly men will always be like that, trying to be friends with women. And women will always believe that it's got nothing to do with attraction, that the guy is “just my friend”. It's a social dynamic that many mid women use to boost their own egos too.

>>518871073
>Most simps are bad people
This. The majority of them are a flavor of manipulative sneaky fucker. They'd knife anyone in the back the second they thought it would get their dick wet.

>>518871959
Wrong.
Sooner or later biology will make you or her decide benis must go in bagina.

>>518870537 (OP)
Thots and simps enable each other.
I got one still pretending those creatures are human, KEK.

Every time I get close to having sex I feel like I'm about to go to jail these women are consenting it's just my paranoia
No actually it's something more it's willingly getting involved in these flipping pointless hedonistic hookups I fear that she will realize that we are both using each other and then use me and hurt me

>>518872795
>but you weren’t actively shamed and discouraged from the behavior.
Sure, but now that we know how this social mechanic works, and that chivalry is just bullshit, all simps need to be shamed and discouraged harshly.

>>518871002
>let's settle this once and for all
you fuckards never settle anything y'all just keep going around and around in circle yapping at your own fucking tails. this board should be called /rtds/

>>518872414
So, I'd like to help my son not wallow too long in the fantasy that women should be respected. Do you feel like 10th grade was a good time to learn the lesson you did, or would you have preferred to learn it sooner? Gonna take the boy fishing and give him the low-down on women, but I'd like him to be ready.

>>518871123
Correct, women cannot be friends with men and even less with other women

>>518870537 (OP)
That's why you NEVER befriend a girl. every girl that hangs out with you, make sure you obviously hit on her. Always make it awkward. Never blurry the lines because the first tike she gets drink and fucks you, she will call it rape the next day to her friends when they ask

>>518871959
>he is defending his friendship with his oneitis
>he thinks he’s different
>its like a le Pokeman
Lmao

>>518873027
Teach him by abstraction. When I was like 5 my father explained to me
>if you like a girl, pull her pigtail and throw gum at her
>don't ask me why it works girls are retarded I guess

Golden advice from my old man.

>>518870537 (OP)
I hope every single guy who sees this realises that women are fucking cunts if they're not attracted to you and giving them your valuable time and attention while they're not letting you drain your balls in them is subhuman behavior. Ask her out, make her uncomfortable, and when she says no, you cut contact permanently. That's all you have to do. The friendzone is a choice, and you should never willingly participate.

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>>518870537 (OP)
Yeah, girls haven't even been invented yet.

>>518872805
toaster in bathtub

>>518870537 (OP)

i have the opposite "problem". i completely lose interest after i plough a girl 2-3 times. my life is just endless hookups and prostitutes, but i'm content being alone and wouldn't give up my freedom/peace for anything. i've lived with plenty of women, and there's no real benefit to having them around 24/24.

>>518870537 (OP)
Gynocracy. Women don't put out. Men get desperate. Cuckservative simps ban porn and make men even more desperate.

She's upset she can't use him for attention anymore and use him as an emotional tampon orbiter anymore. And then she acts as if he wronged her.

>>518872457
>Just be fucking normal and not a zogged sex-obsessed faggot and you have friendships too.
Why did you give this advice as if anyone is jealous of your position? Why the fuck would I want to be friends with an uggo woman that ain't putting out when I can hang out with a male for friendship instead? Are you retarded?

>>518871002
As in, do female friends know you want to fuck them? Generally, yes. If you're the extremely desperate type then they know without even having to think about it. But some women are genuinely oblivious, and have to have it explained to them clearly that all their male friends want to fuck them.

>>518871959
No. It is not possible. In every single male/female friendship, there is one party, where if the other party would offer to have sex out of the blue, the first one would say oh thank God, finally. It is much more often the male who waits for sex, but not exclusively. I've known girls simping after a handsome boy who loves another, pretending to be his "just friend", waiting for an opportunity to snag him.

>>518870537 (OP)
You should never confirm you had feelings for a friend girl as a first move

You should start testing the waters by doing girlfriend "jokes" then frame it as your started to develop feelings in the last time, never the "I've always wanted your"

As anything you can skip most advices if you are 9/10 10/10

Manipulation and timing is part of the rizz game and most of you niggas has zero rizz

women and men can never be friends
beneath all the bullshit they just want sexo and, truly, children.

>>518872225
They aren’t self-aware about it at all, it’s just instinct and emotion, fucking hell they don’t even know what they want to eat or do 90% of the time until someone makes that choice for them or follow what the majority are doing, or taking the easiest option.

>>518873441
>dopey coworker thinks all the old men chatting with her actually want to talk to her and care about what she's saying
man she just did not want to believe it. the girl was literally nursing a lamb back to health in her house, she had to have been seriously sheltered or very lucky her whole life.

>>518873441
>But some women are genuinely oblivious, and have to have it explained to them clearly that all their male friends want to fuck them.
They're just pretending they don't know. Women are generally clueless about everything in their lives, but this is one single topic they're actually on the ball with, knowing whether a guy wants to fuck them. They know. If you meet one that "doesn't know" she's just doing an innocent girl routine and laughing inside as you "explain" it to her.

>>518873441
Did she know I was in love with her? Or did she just think I found her attractive?

>>518870537 (OP)
>here's this normal guy I like hanging out with and we have enough in common to be able to talk normally and be friends
>and I'm single and looking for love
>but I won't date him
I legitimately don't get why they do this

>>518870537 (OP)
>Muh friendship

Boo hoo, get a hobby slut

>>518873641
She knew.

>>518870537 (OP)
SHE'S LITERALLY A MENTALLY ILL BROWN
That post has to be larp

>>518871577
>retarded faggot gets his worldview from seinfeld

>>518873661
Not handsome enough for fucking, but pleasant enough for talking girl shit with.

>>518873764
You made the choice to hang around and orbit, it was on you.

>>518873609
It appears to them as emotion. They aren't self-aware enough to know why they do these things, but they're aware of what needs to be done and how.

>>518873507
>I've known girls simping after a handsome boy who loves another, pretending to be his "just friend", waiting for an opportunity to snag him.

i have loads of these women. most are trying to play the long game and sucker me into a relationship/marriage. i'm extremely machiavellan and ruthlessly manipulate them. the superlative clit tease, kek. i put in zero effort, they're like child beggars who constantly pester you.

>>518872991
Man this is the saddest post of all. People so cowed into submission that fear of prison is on their mind at all times. You're gonna have to get over that fear and be more assertive, because that is a far less likely outcome than you've been led to believe. Niggers rape and kill and don't go to prison. You'll be fine.

>>518871002
They know and don't care, they will use and abuse whoever gives them a modicum of attention and act innocent at the trauma left in their wake.

>>518873661
Reltionships with women in their mind is transactional in most cases, if you can buy them things, make them excitement or give them orgasms then you have no chance. Look at all the slimy looking drug dealers with gfs, its because they can fill the criteria, same with women in abusive relationships that stay they might not be happy but theyre probably in some way thrilled by the situation theyre in

>>518873720
>SHE'S LITERALLY A MENTALLY ILL BROWN
Anon is time you know: all woman are mentally ill, these unhinge brown just tend to say out loud what other girls think but don't dare to say it so openly, you should keep one or two close to monitor girl behavior

>>518873889
That's retarded, a waste of time, and mean. You are basically bragging about being like a woman. When I get a female orbiter I instantly shut that shit down and send her on her way.

>>518873548
>women and men can never be friends
>beneath all the bullshit they just want sexo and, truly, children.

sort of. i'm genuinely friends with many older women, 40+ years old. there's zero sexual attraction, just common interests: motorcycles, aviation, business, weight training, etc.

i'm not interested in them at all, they're like sisters/family in my eyes.

>>518874034
>sort of. i'm genuinely friends with many older women, 40+ years old. there's zero sexual attraction
There's sexual attraction from their side. It's not friendships, it's them orbiting you in the hope that you'll give them a chance for relationships.

>>518873991
>a waste of time...

i'm a master of delegation and force multiplication. if i wasn't getting 10x back what i'm putting in, i'd ghost them. you're much too kind with "shutting that shit down and sending them on their way". rookie move.

>... and mean.

the world doesn't reward kindness, chuddy.

>>518874171
You're a loser. Try to figure out where your effeminate inferiority complex comes from.

>>518872176
I guess you can become 100% enemy if you make it clear that you can't be manipulated lol. Girls in high school absolutely HATED my fucking guts because I had the appearance of a harmless unattractive simp orbiter but I knew what I was up. I guess that was the most sigma point of my life. Thank goodness I didn't go to high school in more shithole days of the 90s and early 2000s when you had incidents like girls ordering a bunch of guys to violently beat the shit out of someone (with only them suffering the consequences).

>>518873128
Honestly, simplicity is perfection. I like it. Thanks, anon.

>>518874116

i'm sure a few would, but they know i'd never indulge. it's not about their ego, status, or dreams of hooking up, they're genuine connections via shared interests. more than a few are married or lesbians, kek.

but i've been in that situation before. always awkward af, destroys the bogus "friendship" 90% of the time.

>>518873376
Ever heard of a Madonna-Whore complex, anon? IIRC it's one of Freud's theories which actually withstood the test of time and is still supported today.

>>518872805
Old age

>>518874424
>they're genuine connections via shared interests
No such thing has ever existed between a man and a woman, and it never will.

>>518870537 (OP)
Single mother epidemic raised an entire generation of pussyfree simps.

>>518870537 (OP)
women realizing they can’t have it both ways

honestly this is a good thing, them realizing that all men don’t actually want to be their friends at all, especially ones that said they did

for him sex is the only thing that makes the friendship worth pursuing, for her the idea of sex with this man makes the friendship worth ending

that was never a friendship lol

>>518874439
Freud was an uberyid.

>>518870537 (OP)
People in the west are freaks nowadays, bad culture gets spread via social media. Just move and you escape this shithole. Understand that you need money.

>>518871002
Of course they know.
Women may be dumber and weaker than males on average but they are WAY better than us at social cues since that's quite literally what all their life is about. They can identify what type of guy someone is in 5 seconds without even talking to him.
And before you ask why they don't bring it up it's because they want to check if someone better might come along since they know they have a safe net waiting for them in case that fails. It's like playing a video game with an extra life.

>>518872209
>>518872414
Most people are drones and will do as their culture instructs them, even unto their own death. Tend your own garden, and understand that you do not have to befall this fate.

>>518873507
>I've known girls simping after a handsome boy who loves another, pretending to be his "just friend", waiting for an opportunity to snag him.
This, fucking Christ. For every one simp there are ten orbiter females, gravitating around 'chad', thinking if they come in at the right time, be there at the right time, say the right thing or just get more of his attention then he'll finally leave Stacy for good and get with her.
Women are unbelievably shameless and disgusting, if you think men have a simp problem, don't even fucking get me started man.

>>518871002
>Do they know?
Yes. That is the whole reason they chase after male "friends" to begin with - because they know he's not a friend, he's some guy crushing on her who doesn't have the balls to push for more, so she can endlessly exploit him.
Absolutely none of them are unaware, they know perfectly well and it's the whole reason they went for it.
Almost no woman wants an actual friendship with a guy where you have a give and take, they want this unrequited love situation where it's only taking without any giving.

>>518873520
>develop feelings
>testing the waters like a pussy
>advice from someone who has never left the friend zone once

Nigger, you're starting from the premise that men and women can be friends. You're already giving away that you don't know what you're talking about. You don't test the waters, because there is no water to test. You make your intentions clear and she's either into it, or you stop hanging with her. To what end would you test the waters? To avoid upsetting a nonexistent friendship, that you only pretended to have with the endgame of fucking? If fucking is not an option, there's no friendship anyway.
Fucking hell this is stupid. Fuck you.

>>518874764
Yes, women simps aren't uncommon at all, they just orbit around a much smaller group of men.

>>518874764
Well yes, Chads are the only group of men that are socially above women after all.

>>518874439
>Ever heard of a Madonna-Whore complex, anon?

that's some bizarre/autistic shite. i just get bored easily, kek.

>>518874892
what’s worse is it’s always someone at their fucking job, these hens go to the office and oogle a married guy with 3 kids taking turns trying to ruin his life just to see if they can

>>518870537 (OP)
>How did the simp problem get so bad?
1) Single motherhood depriving boys of strong masculine role models, and boys growing up with a savior complex watching their mothers get ran through by other men and trauma from hearing her have sex.

2) Marriage and divorce laws enslaving men to their wives. Unless you want to lose your kids and half your shit, you cuck to your wife's requests and obey her. Boys see this behavior from their fathers growing up and emulate from an early age.

>>518870537 (OP)
There's no way this dumbass thot thinks that her simps orbit her because she's so interesting and cool. At this point I assume any twitter post by a woman with a blue checkmark is trolling and trying to traffic people the the onlyfans link attached to her page. brvtal trvth nvke

>>518872805
snu snu

>>518873991
He said they're the ones doing it. How is it his fault? Do you just not respect women's agency?

How do I stop being a beta omega sigma. There was this cute girl at work and I didn't ask her out after 5 years and I got a new job. I'm KHHV truecel

>>518870537 (OP)
Women are retards. Their "rights" need to be removed immediately.

>>518871073
This. I knew a guy who was perfectly fine to be around and interesting to talk to usually, but the instant a femoid was around, that piece of shit would push you off a cliff if it could secure him one night of pussy.

>>518873128
Oh god. That's what bra snapping and similar shit was.

>t. a moron who was taught it was mean and disrespectful, and believed it.

>>518872757
we live in a society

>>518875064
>Single motherhood depriving boys of strong masculine role models
I think most trannies turned that way because their father overdid the "strong masculine" role didn't allow their son to grow as one, since they kept being the "alpha dog" in the family even towards their child.

>>518875092
The dude is spending time gabbing with ugly, useless women. It's not a useful thing to do when you're a man. Women wrangling simp orbiters is understandable, because those men add immense value to her life. When you're a man spending time on female orbiters you're basically making her life better instead of your own. It's a sort of meta-simpery that comes from a narcissistic impulse to feel better about yourself.

If you're in this situation where you're handsome enough that you attract female simps, just cut them loose immediately because you derive NO real value from sitting around and gabbing with them like a woman. Get yourself some male, real friends instead, and focus your sexual attention on women that are actually worth fucking.

>>518870537 (OP)
>flirt with her male friends
>act surprised when they want something more

I wonder if it's deliberate manipulation or they are just too dumb

>>518875222
>Oh god. That's what bra snapping and similar shit was.
Of course. Those guys snapping the bras were fucking these hoes while you sat around pining and being confused.

>>518871123
Not if the male friend zones and sets boundaries
I do it and I’m very nice to the people I friend zone
I don’t try and exploit them
Sometimes I use them when I’m single to vent about life and that’s it
I know they like me but I know for various reasons it wouldn’t work and I’m married now anyways
I like the people I friend zone, they have other good qualities and I like having female friends who have my back.

Sometimes I think maybe I’m being a little cruel and I can catch glimpses of their longing and sadness but in this lonely world I still think it’s better to be in peoples lives checking in on them than just letting them rot in front of Netflix.

K I’m asking honestly
Am I a bad guy for this?

>>518875076
she knows, retard. they all know. but as long as the simps don't mention it she can pretend the simps are friends and milk them for attention

>>518875263
That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about and sounds like complete bullshit.

>>518875395
>Am I a bad guy for this?
You're wasting your own and their time. You're acting like a woman.

>>518875222
Were you raised by a woman or possibly a parentally disengaged man, anon?

>>518870537 (OP)
That woman is being selfish. It's better for the true feelings to be out and then for the relationship to end if it can't be that way. It's so bizarre to me how women are apparently the empathic sex but they only consider their own feelings in these matters. It doesn't matter that the guy has feelings and thus should move on and stop talking to save his own feelings, what matters is that she was getting what she wanted from the relationship and now she won't.

>>518871123
>Incel
>No chin
>5'7
>Little if any hygiene
>"Men and women can't be friends. That's a well established fact among people with brains."

>>518870537 (OP)
I haven't had a crush in over a decade. I hate woman too much to fall in love with any of them.

>>518875395
not a bad guy, I think every guy that can do this does, just like every woman

not every flower needs to be plucked

>>518875400
Yeah that's exactly why I said it's a troll post for attention. Stay in school lil bro.

>>518875320
Sounds to me like you're jealous and blaming these men for "hogging all the women" lol.

>>518875263
My father was an extremely insecure, abusive drunk, literally afraid of his masculinity over the 'challenge' of his 6 year old son so much that he'd just hit me sometimes because I came into the house looking slightly confident.
Not anywhere even close to ever 'trooning out' or anything, but I absolutely didn't grow up with confidence of any kind, really its just worse when you're not at home because people treat you like there is something wrong with you, like I'm the one that needs to be "fixed", like sorry my retard boozer father punched me in the face when I was six - my fault bro, I'll go the confidence store when some self-esteem is on sale my bad.

Didn't turn out great, but I'm not doing well at all. I feel similar men to me were probably fucking wrecked in one way or another, probably put on a lot of psychotropics when they were young because western psychology and medicine is intent on "managing symptoms" instead of eliminating root causes, this unfortunately stems into psychotherapy where they also "manage victims" in a way that keeps them out of the way of others and themselves.

>>518875343
>I wonder if it's deliberate manipulation or they are just too dumb

it could go either way. even when they're not being manipulative, it can go pear-shaped very quickly. most young pups in the west are simps and think with their cocks. this thread is proof, just look at all the faggots on here who think it's "impossible" for males/females to be friends.

>>518875620
Why would I be jealous of someone having ugly women around to have girly talks with.

>>518875400
Yeah it’s kind of on the firends for acting like a friend to just be close to you.
What the friend zoner is doing is often to them just trying to be kind to a nice person.
But the hovering and obsessive part of the person being friend zoned is unnattractive in both sexes.

It shows that you think highly of me but lowly of yourself. Obsession is also repulsing romantically. However sometimes people can come through as friends and in group settings it’s good to have a mix

>>518871354
They can but it's extremely unlikely and usually at least one side has to be gay or something. I would say the overwhelming majority of male/female best friendships have some lopsided dynamics going on though. The guy usually has a crush on the girl and is waiting for her to have the romcom realization for him like a dope.

>>518875558
I’ve been married for 16 years and have two teenaged children, if my wife had some guy friend she hung out with too all this time I would be a retard to think nothing was happening

>>518872493
This is why they’re so easily manipilated by slander campaigns.

>>518875653
Deflection. I hit the nail on the head here. You're pathetic.

>>518875638
Go punch your retard father in the face. It will be cathartic.

>>518875395
>Am I a bad guy for this?

no, you're a normalfag.

>>518874764
>if you think men have a simp problem, don't even fucking get me started man.
The sheer amount of femoids who openly say when looking at a movie that they want to fuck the main actor is a big redpill. Basically any femoid reaction to a film with Henry Cavill on jewtube will include "god I wish he fucked me". Making it even more hilarious that they then pretend "men are pigs" for not wanting to look at the ugliest nigresses possibles in movies

>>518875507
I’m not wasting their time though and like 95 percent of interactions are initiated by these people. My wife is nice to them too, we don’t talk about the obvious but we both know at the same time.

Am I supposed to just say leave me alone, like they are not bad people. I just want one wife

>>518875395
>Am I a bad guy for this?
Not bad, just lame.
A cool guy would've made a harem.

>>518875780
Yeah, my life would be so much better if I could just have ugly women around that I could have girly talks with. Betas like you think this is some sort of massive accomplishment. But you're just wasting your own time and effort. What you need to do is figure out where this impulse comes from. Why do you feel the need to have this attention from ugly women? When you figure out that, you can move on and spend your time more fruitfully instead of acting retarded like a woman.

>>518875877
Of course you tell them to leave you alone. Why are you spending your time and effort on these women? It's purely a detriment to you.

>>518875559
Based. Jews can import 3 billion jeets to fix the country they fucked up lol. I wonder where they will run to since they already fucked up Europe, America, and Russia.

>>518875876
>Making it even more hilarious that they then pretend "men are pigs" for not wanting to look at the ugliest nigresses possibles in movies

they only say that to get rid of chuds. i'm incredibly racist, sexist, abusive, aggressive, blahdy blah. women don't give af. if some blue-haired fat chick complains, it's sour grapes and envy, simply as.

>>518870537 (OP)
why are some women like this
whats so bad about a guy having a crush on you if hes not like annoying lol

>>518875941
Lol grass. Touch it. Now.

>>518876103
Never.

>>518875559
I simply got progressively disappointed by them. I started treating them on a genuinely equal footing when I was younger and they ended up just not being interesting. Funnily enough some of the vitriol from women and simps I've described here >>518874285 came from the fact that I genuinely treated women as equals lol, normies cannot avoid their nature

>>518875952
>I wonder where they will run to since they already fucked up Europe, America, and Russia.

>>518875559
It's insane when that finally happens to you, both a blessing and a curse. You feel free and like a great weight has been lifted off of you, but also you become very cynical and a bit miserable from it. The light never enters your eyes again regarding love or women, even after any potential anger subsides.

>>518876135
>came from the fact that I genuinely treated women as equals lol
You are bigger, stronger and smarter. This fact is undeniable by observing the world around you from you're 12 or something. How can you ever be equal? It's such a retarded idea.

>>518871354
This

>>518876251
That's what I described, I started off with that position and had to learn through experience

>>518876354
Yes, I was agreeing with you.

>>518876078
She doesn't have plausible deniability to keep using him as an emotional tampon/wallet.

>>518870537 (OP)
You chose for that friendship to be ruined.
You also chose to not give him a chance.
When you are alone and you watch your last viable egg leave your body that will be the same look you give.
I wish nothing but the worst for people like this.

>>518870537 (OP)
Simple.
Too many men survive now.
More men are born than women, but men die earlier of all causes (except child birth)
So historically due to war and disease, there would be a shortage of men.
Now there is such a a surplus of men that some of them turn themselves into trannies.

>>518876230
Never initiate a relationship with a woman you're in love with. It doesn't work today. Women have too much power invested in them from globohomo, they are by default in charge of the success of the relationship and you have zero authority in this. No, you can't "dominate" her into submission, because every single woman today knows that the ZOG has her back and if you step too wildly out of line, ZOGbots will fuck your shit up and she can just go live on gubberment gibs and have the kids taken care of. You have zero legal power in a postmodern globohomo relationship. So add you being in love into this mix and you have a fucking recipe for disaster. Not only does she have all the worldly power, now she has the fucking emotional power as well.

So what you do to have a chance is you find the best woman available that falls in love with you instead. Then at least you have the emotional upper hand in the relationship, even though you have no other power than that.

>>518875889
To me I think that would be such a headache and I don’t want to mess up my genuine love with my wife.

The girls kind of all drift when they find their long term relationship. The dude their with will not like them being friends with me.
I’m fine with that, I kinda see the relationship I have with these people as them finding what they like and I try and tell them there are lots of people like that and even suggest friends for them.

But whatever life pattern I have, this is a common occurrence. Women will do it longer too, they will leave subtle hints but they’ll never just come clean.

>>518876649

you think too much, faggot.

>>518874285
Speaking of your scenario at the end of your post, that almost happened to me once in college. Some chick having a drunken meltdown at a party I was at suddenly fixated on me since she didn't know who I was, then she freaked out and sicced like 4 or 5 of her orbiters on me after I told her to calm down and tried to explain who I was. They chased me out the back door of the place and I had to hop a bunch of fences.

>>518876742
You think too little. That's why you're sitting there with your thumb up your ass, serving as an emotional sponge for a gaggle of useless ugly women.

I get it, you didn't have a father to teach you these basic things. I'm trying to help you out, so listen to me.

>>518875395
>I use them when I’m single to vent about life
>Am I a bad guy for this?
yes i hate you fuckers so much. stop wasting peoples time with your bullshit.

>>518870537 (OP)
It's always been the same. Most men are pathetic.

>>518876736
>Women will do it longer too, they will leave subtle hints but they’ll never just come clean.
Women orbiters basically do it forever if you don't shut them down. Male simps would too, but male simps work a bit differently, they will work up the courage to proclaim their feelings after a few years, which is when the "friendship" ends.

>>518876837

you think too much, faggot. it's pedantic and cringe. to use your own lingo, you're larping as an "alpha". it's contrived. fake. phoney. normal, emotionally healthy women (and men) see straight through that facade.

>>518877081
>emotionally healthy women
Doesn't exist.

>>518876929
Then should I just leave them alone, I dunno they make you feel like that’s cruel too.

>>518874866
Can't comment on his methods, but it is true that for women feelings can take time to develop if you aren't immediately drop-dead gorgeous. I nailed a lot of chicks at work, at for both me and the women neither of us generally wanted one another when they were first hired, but working in close proximity for months raised sexual tension until we'd finally fuck. Not sure how that would express itself in a friend group, but I could see a chick gradually becoming attracted.

>>518877237
>but it is true that for women feelings can take time to develop if you aren't immediately drop-dead gorgeous.
Nope.

>>518877237
>I nailed a lot of chicks at work, at for both me and the women neither of us generally wanted one another when they were first hired, but working in close proximity for months raised sexual tension until we'd finally fuck.
They wanted it from the moment they saw you.

>>518870537 (OP)
Never get friend zoned.

>>518870537 (OP)
So they're just admitting they only want sex and no relationship now?

>>518871123
>>518872032
How about you actually try being social and going outside cause this happens all the time..ive been friends with girls I both were and werent attracted to. Ive also seen it plenty. Yall are just weird i guess

>>518875645
>most young pups in the west are simps and think with their cocks

We are attracted to females and anyone who is attractive is going to make us men have feelings. If you have an attractive friend you will need to have restraint, but that fact alone shows that it's likely a difficult friendship already. Maybe if the guy is already fulfilling his intimate relationship needs with someone else that could be easier

>>518876639
There isn't a surplus of men you absolute moron. Look at the numbers instead of the feelings inside your misandrist head: there's still a surplus of women like there always has been.

>>518877371
It never happens. One of the parties is always more into the other. Either the woman is waiting for a relationship, or the guy is. Usually it's the guy.

>>518872551
Thats just a pure cope. It happens all the time irl. Even if there is attraction amongst each other, some people just dont act on it (nor do they plan to) and just hangout lol. Especially in groups. You can cope otherwise but reality doesnt add up to your hypothesis

>>518877529
>Even if there is attraction amongst each other, some people just dont act on it (nor do they plan to) and just hangout lol.
That's exactly what I'm describing, my retarded friend. If the attraction wasn't there, there would be no "friendship" because men and women don't find each other interesting beyond their attraction to each-other.

>>518873441
My ex never understood this, either that or she was just disagreeing to disagree. Of course your guy friends want to fuck you. It's the next logical progression of being friends with a woman. Steve Harvey said it well: https://youtu.be/b5Q4KG1ZtVg

>>518877371
>>518875558
>>518875395
Ironic that the people who say men and women can be friends are the ones with terrible grammar. You're basically illiterate and proving Anon's point.

>>518870537 (OP)
>34.7m attention

>>518877460
A surplus of OLD women. Which doesn't impact dating dynamics, at all. Young men still outnumber young women.

Why do women hate when their male friends confess to them?

>a man who’s gotten to know me and actually appreciates me for who I am wants to date me??? Ahh I’m going insane!!

Wouldn’t you want to date someone who actually knows you instead of a total stranger?

>>518877610
Your ex understood completely, she was just doing the innocent girl routine. Did she act with shock and horror and restructure her whole social dynamic with men when you explained it to her? No, she just brushed it off with slight embarrassment. Because she knew all along.

>>518877301
Some young dudes are conditioned by movies and shit women say that they *think* they believe but subconsciously don't to believe that being in that friend pocket will eventually have the girl have some sort of epiphany that he is everything she wants. Most dudes will realize what's up by their early 20s, sadly a few will be that way until 30 or longer and a lot of those guys do not take it well when they do.

>>518877587
>these females are all twisted creatures, incapable of true emotional wholeness. they only crave chads, leaving nice guys like me in the desolate friend zone. it is the ultimate proof that men and women can never be true friends. this cruel world is a testament to the blackpill.

it's all so tiresome. please don't go on a spree killing, chuddy-kun.

>>518877784
Because the simp orbiter is now broken and she has to go through all the time and effort of creating a new one.

>>518877901
>these females are all twisted creatures, incapable of true emotional wholeness
First sensible thing you've said in this thread.

>>518877976

jinkies.

>>518877784
After reading through the thread I got it just a little bit more. I'm picturing a shallow friendship where both parties kind of like hanging out with each other but the guy has barely asked any questions about her and barely knows her, and in the end it's just a passable friendship. Or he has gotten to know her and there's such obvious barriers to a relationship (eg religion) that it's unthinkable. But he decides he's tired of being around her without fucking her and just shoots his shot anyway. "You are not interesting enough to be around outside of a sexual manner. Give it to me or I'm out."

Is it a realistic scenario? Fuck no, but I at least would get the reaction if that's what she was getting at. If it's actually more like what you're describing, she's straight up heartless and evil.

>>518877295
>They wanted it from the moment they saw you.
Maybe, but I doubt it. I didn't especially wanna fuck them at the time depending on the girl. I only wanted to over time

>>518872757
>>518875251
I always point this out about we're all moving

>>518871354
Im friends with several women. They just dont happen to be around my age. They are in their mid 50s to early 60s.

>>518870537 (OP)
When /pol/ started letting Whites get away with underhanded illegal shit like gangstalking

Don’t be a faggot and wait too long to tell someone you like them, simple as.

>>518872757
>>518875251
glad to see others also noticed this is what's happening

t. deleted dating apps and removed myself from the dating pool years ago. I live like a monk

>>518878221
Just say it straight away. There's no reason whatsoever to wait. The only single outcome waiting can bring is wasting time.

>>518877784
She doesn't have plausibly deniability to keep using them for attention/money. Also women hate being cared about. They want to be used because they are retarded.

>>518878193
>gangstalking

>>518877784
Women like having non-romantic men they feel nothing sexual for around to have a fallback for "boyfriend duties" like fixing stuff, paying for their lunch, or having a guy to vent to about their shit days at work or whatever. When one of those guy confesses feelings, that's generally bad because when they reject him, a lot of times he's going to move on and stop talking to her, at least for a good long while until he gets over her. In the worst case scenario, he moves on and finds a girlfriend elsewhere, and now this other bitch is benefitting from his provided boyfriend duties that she once had access to and it drives her nuts because she can't get that back without at least pretending like she is romantically interested in him.

>>518870537 (OP)
MEN AND WOMEN CAN NOT BE FRIENDS. One of them is friendzoned, even if they don't realize. It's not natural. Women, any guy outside your family that is spending one-on-one time with you wants to fuck you.

>>518871123
they can only be "friends" if they're siblings or if they are talking online (where they can't see one another). otherwise they can't.

>>518871123
Its been tried again and again and again and again through out history, generations, eras, cultures, times.
We are biological creatures.
The smells, the pheromones, we don't even consciously pay attention to them but they are there driving us.
It doesn't work, biology rules the day.

>>518878392
Correct. And same other way around. If a woman is hanging around being your "friend" she wants to be in a relationship with you.

No man and woman in the history of humanity have been real friends.

>>518878303
It's the KEY to ending all this shit, don't get your clitty in a twist
We can go onto MKULTRA and chastise Whites for not protesting against that and having those scientists hung.
No one fucks with another niggas mind and gets away with it.
Not unless y'all want the world to be doomed forever.

>>518878181
Old women are pretty awesome. Still women, but they don't play the same games young women do.

>>518871354
>t. billy-no-friends, friend expert

>>518878303
It's well documented you sharty tranny kike. Go groom another mass shooter like Solomon Henderson before jacking off to CP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

I like how your dumb kike ass already is using the "talking about reality is mental illness you need to be locked up"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sluggish_schizophrenia

>>518877822
Yeah, the fucked up thing is years later I was proven right. She ended up fucking some of her friends, and even her best friend, a lesbian, and I took a LOT of shit for telling her that her best friend wanted to bang her, but I was right in the end. She managed to still get married and have a kid, but I don't feel bad about it because get husband definitely got cucked. He wouldn't speak up like I did. I refused to get cucked. Loyalty is very important to me. The only thing that sucks is that she was an amazing piece of ass. Had more sex with her than every other girl I've ever been with combined.

>>518876649
Reminds me of this one anon who analyzed that in today's world, asking a woman out is an act of submission. Because on an unconscious level, the woman is aware of everything you said in your post, and will lose attraction to you if you display any towards her.

>>518878315
Listening to a woman that you're not fucking 'complain about her day' is the male version of "why buy the cow, if you're giving the milk away for free". You're being the fat chick that a guy will fuck, but won't be seen in public with. Don't do it to yourself.

>>518878539
Introverts have higher grey matter so that's likely plausible

>>518878501
Dude if you aren't on drugs then you are likely schizophrenic. Gangstalking doesn't exist for poor people.

>>518870537 (OP)
>How did the simp problem get so bad?
The answer to that lies in your bathroom mirror, simp

>>518878501
All people involved with gangstalking are guilty of treason, including the Jewish and freemason organizations that facilitate it.

>>518878650
And Freemasons don't rape little boys!

Cope kike. 110 soon

>>518877742
>Young men still outnumber young women.
Could that be because your government has imported an entire standing army's worth of young barbarian men over the last 20 years?

>>518878650
Also it's well documented. A shitload of people were informants for the Jewish Soviets. Your lies don't work any more mosiche.

>>518870537 (OP)
If you were really his friend you'd be happy that he dodged a bullet like wasting time with you, hoe.